The future of Rallying? 100% Electric Opel Corsa-E Tests Germany 2020
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2020
- The first Rally car we've seen after the big lockdown was quite different from what we've imagined. Yet still - here it is & it sure is fast for a small "cup racer". and still under development! What do you think about it? Tell me in the comments!
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Imagine hearing a 2005 Ferrari V10 and turning over and seeing an Opel Corsa. Glorious times we're living in.
except, the volume is much MUCH lower, so prepare for massive disappointment. The video is deceiving as in when you hear the tire sound. it sounds as loud if not higher than the EV noise.
A rally ferrari v10?! Don’t think so!
I like the powerful torque of the electric motors, the incredible acceleration and all that. But a rally without sounds sucks. I mean, at high speed it doesn't sound that bad, but when the car is braking or turning in a slow corner, it is horrible. Imagine a WRC car entering a hairpin and you didn't realize it was approaching. Motorsports will have serious problems in the future if they don't fix this problem.
I don't think so, the sound of motorsports always changed, every time there where people that left because, "it is not the real thing anymore" and new generations just took over and took the new sounds as the default.
This will go on, and hearing the terrain and the car reacting to the different terrains will also be a very interesting experience.
Actually the future will be a serious problem. Without cars with petrol engines I might die faster.
@@Ismalith Yes but the motorsports car sounds never changed from frieghtning loud to terrifying silence.
@@egoravdeev1968 The fucking gear shift type isn't nearly as key to the average spectator as the sound...
I hate the lack of engine sound, but love hearing the tires, dirt, everything else
Yeah the sounds are important to rally but I'm very excited about the power electric rally cars can provide in the future. And eventually people will get used to the lack of sound and also petrol rally cars are not going to vanish anywhere so die hard petrol heads don't need to worry :D
Electric cars can have great electronic engine sounds, I deliver my SoundRacer EV sound system to many electric vehicles, from gokarts to private Teslas and manufacturers of city buses. Many sounds to choose from, including V-Twin, V8, V10 and V12.
@@kennethpalmestal6629 that's insanely stupid
@@magnumllama400 Why stupid? Exciting engine sounds has always been an important part of the experience for racing spectators. And for new electric cars it is required by law in EU, USA and other countries, to have a warning sound, AVAS, at lower speed to avoid accidents.
@@kennethpalmestal7903 stupid
Damn thing sounds like an X-Wing at full pelt.
thats the tires.
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The sound of an EV motor/gearbox kind of has its own charm to me. Obviously doesn't sound as good as an engine, but I can certainly get used to it.
The children of the future wouldn't understand how we liked the sound of an engine
@@ownlabs The thought of that scares the shit out of me
@@ownlabs as a child of the past I love an engine sound but this reminds me of KITT from Knight Rider and I can dig it
quite interessting to hear every screech and rattle of the tires and chassis, now that the engine is out of the way.
could use more torque though, wheels werent spinning enough ... ;)
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Electric motors can control the torque far more precisely, so they probably were getting away faster than any ICE car without spinning.
Traction control I reckon
Tamiya RC but 1:1 scale :P
ahahhah the video just started and here it is my favourite one, the Lancer Evo VI.....oh wait!! that was just the intro :D ahhaahahah
Nice work with the camera man!! Amazing video.
The torque from electric vehicles is compelling. They need a sound generator, though. Sound conveys speed, and also helps with safety. The siren on the VW IDR at Pikes Peak was necessary, but hopefully something more inventive will be used.
instead of sound generator just add stuka sirens :-P
Fake sound is f---ing bullshit. Any lover of motorsport should have enough brain in the f---ing head to not desire fake sound. Electrics sound worse, but if you want great ICE sound you put your headphones on and play your favourite motor sound for yourself.
You only equate sound with speed because you are used to it. After driving an EV for a few years it’s not the opposite for me - I see/hear so many cars making so much noise and not going fast that now it just seems so antiquated, and I’m a long term rev-head. I loved the sound of my old V8s.
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@@markedwards4879 like it or not - ICE sound great. It's not because we equate speed to the sound (to some extent we do). But there's a reason why a slow car with loud, interesting engine sound, still is far more appealing than even a quick car with boring sound.
Engine sound is cool on it own. You don't need speed, power or anything to go with it because the sound appeal is self-supporting. And that's the biggest problem with EVs. Okay, to some extent we are used to race/rally cars being loud but that's not the whole story.
For all those who don’t want electric rally cars - click the dislike button twice. If you enjoyed our work or look forward to⚡️ sport give it a like. We’d appreciate it!
i enjoy ur work and dislike this car:)
Exactly, it's this car, not your video 😬
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There's some genius in that comment
Genius indeed... were it not for people not following orders....
I think when the WRC goes electric will definitely go watch more historic rallying. Thank god I saw the best of it in the 70s, 80s , 90s and early 2000s!
i hope they don't go electric man i feel like it would ruin it for sure
the day I dont hear the screaming turbo noices and the exploding exhaust, it will be the day I stop watching WRC
Friendly Fire It is sad that you are watching it because of exhaust farts. For me it’s the competition of crews and their skills.
@@Mopsasus1 hahha how pathetic is that
@@Mopsasus1 yeah i fully agree.
BIG FACT
@@Mopsasus1 ok you weirdo
I actually am warming up to the idea of Electric motor sports! Nice
Some disadvantages will be the lack of sound and the shorter laps. Also I have heard there will be similar electric kits available for other teams which means the same cars will compete.
This thing sounds exactly like a Group B rally car going downhill.........when the engine has cut out.
I dont think racingdrivers will give a damn about the sound, but as a fan this is a huge change.
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Props to Opel and Holzer Motorsport for being the first to pursue a vision for the future of our beloved motorsport. Keep in mind it’s a prototype without sound module. Let’s have a discussion - Better to have an eco friendly sport than none, or is it?
I'm sure it's a step in the right direction, it will need some time to get used to it but I actually think the electric future will be cool
@@theglucki3660 there is high potential in what can be done and dont forget even for the biggest petrolheads an e car csn have gears and sound! It's just up to the manufacturer to implement it
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If I may give a tip to this project. Focus on different terrains for the car.
Now with the sound of the engine gone the difference between gravel, asphalt, mud, snow and sand will be a much bigger deal and I am sure a big part of the excitement of electric rallying.
I have the e-208 (mechanically identical), it's plenty quick as a road car, but I think it needs a bit more power for the rally stage.
Well... I see this as an absolute win. Historic rallying will get more popular than ever before.
"Aaah...somebody"
"He need some *Torque Vectoring*"
The ID.3 has torque vectoring
Thing sounds like an airplane. I love the roar of a gas-guzzler as much as the next guy, but that motor sounds amazing
This will result in a lot of spectators getting run over because they didn't expect the car lol
under racing conditions the car will have a sound module which, according to Opel, should sound like a Kadett C
Blue Dragon Media The electric cars at Pike’s Peak use what sounds like an emergency vehicle siren so spectators can hear them coming. I’m all for electrification, but I hope they can come up with a better solution than that. I can buy a sound module for a 1:10 scale RC car for $100, so I’m sure a big automaker can come up with something.
Don't you hear the annoying high sound from the engine?
We are certain that the ADAC Opel e-Rally Cup will point the way ahead for motor sport. We decided that the Corsa-e Rally should match and exceed the high standards of its petrol-engine predecessor, the Opel ADAM Cup and we are on track with this. While the power output is almost the same, the 260Nm of torque is much higher than the ADAM Cup’s. The centre of gravity is low, thanks to the underfloor-mounted battery, and the weight distribution is also very good, which is extremely important for an agile competition car. The innovative concept and the cooperation with ADAC opens new possibilities. Of course, safety is a very important aspect here that will be respected. It's not the only challenge: Loads and temperature management of the battery under rally conditions, software, sound, durability testing - all topics that we are tackling at the moment.
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I really liked the car, it doesn't have any noise, it makes it stand out more
I know these are fast, especially at launch, but I think they need to work on the torque for them to really work in Rally. It would be pretty cool, the sound is actually kind of cool too. I don’t want regular Rally cars to go away though.
someone knows who has the remote control?
Pretty slow when exiting the hairpin.
Probably just out of caution. Electric cars have insane low end torque so it would be incredibly easy to wheelspin out of the hairpin.
that is just poor piloting, too unfamiliar with the track, tyres and overal behaviour of the torque/car when pushing the gas pedal
@@gorromoro the car sounds also very weird all day out of the hairpin. I think it is more a mechanical problem.
@@WindowsBunny yeah an appropriate control should be able to handle that
weight of lithium xD
This is like biting into a chocolate éclair and it’s full of air instead of cream filling 😂
Opel has traditionally strong connections with rallying. We can look back with pride on numerous successes. Now we are moving forward with electric drive and based on the first engineering tests we can already predict drivers as well as fans will be amazed by the performance of our e-cup rally car: ruclips.net/video/popTQH0eEzk/видео.html
@@Opel Unfortunately a lot of people think that part of rallying is also the sound and smell so making E-Rally cars takes out a lot of the excitement ( for me personally atleast but im sure others would agree )
@@Aesh-om2sz agreed.
@@Aesh-om2sz Not at all, you are completely wrong.
@@Djeseret notice how I said others ?? That implies SOME not ALL
all that tire screeching then silence lol
I'm impressed at the driver's driving while this thing is stock. While I love to hear that exhaust roar,.....no, yeah I can't not hear the exhaust yelling. I do not approve but hey, times are changing...
This is how we have our cake and eat it too.
hum i think legends / historic rallyes will be more and more and atractiv !!
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This thing needs a podracer sound !
*Great
yeah, a Corsa-E arriving in the back of a nice Diesel truck... and diesel generators powering the camp. what a world we live in these days?? I have some footage of the Stardt R5 Fiesta oon my channel at Lydden hill... it really goes but as the other comments say.. NO NOISE!
Actually I like it, sounds pretty interesting and definitely not negative to me
Needs negative AND positive to work anyway
What sound? Because I can't hear ANYTHING.
@@arcidg the sound of electric motors, because they are also making a noise. You should probably wash your ears if you can't hear that
It sounds like a sci-fi plane and I’m here for it
I love that white rally car ..... that appears betwen 0:00 and 0:04
Interesting concept
I want to see it make a jump! XD
It definitely will jump! The centre of gravity is low, thanks to the underfloor-mounted battery, and the weight distribution is also very good, which is extremely important for an agile competition car. In our Dudenhofen test tracks we jumped all day with it to see if safety can be guaranteed and everything runs smoothly under rally conditions.
I want to see it burn to the ground.
@@Opel thank you!
Rallys future is electric and i don't have any broblems with that, whe i see that even these car are entertaining even tho these are just first electric cars on the rally special stages.
Scalextric forever !!
This thing screams when full speed.
Loll, danged computers preventing handbrake and throttle together...
What's that noise? Motor or tires?
The electric motor.
That noise is the death of rallying.
Combo of motor, diffential (presume straight cut?) And tyres.
@Scooby King Wow you’re pessimistic. I love roaring engines as much as the next guy, but how can you say no to sci-fi jet noises?
The only question: why has it taken so long? It is obvious from the very start that electric powertrains can kill it in rally conditions due to their vastly superior power delivery control (including torque at the low end) and lower center of gravity. From what I see though, this only seems to be a regular Corsa e with some modifications (it's still front wheel drive).
Haters gonna hate, but haters generally don't know anything about physics, so...
NICE ELECTRIC SOUND
Great video mate,but electric rallying is not for me....Bring back the Group 4 days.Call me a dinosaur,but even the current WRC doesn't rock my boat.Bears no resemblance to the cars you can buy,although the development does find it's way in to future road cars.Even though,bring back the Escorts,Asconas,Stratos st al.
At least they're alive and well in historic rallying,for now at least..👍
one of the best things about watching a Rally is the sound of the cars echoing through the forest... the high pitch squeal of electric cars actually HURTS my ears!
And I enjoy this sound, very entertaining.
@@Djeseret You're right, it's hilarious. Hilariously dull.
I ve got no problem with electric rally cars even the full throttle sound is ok but I dont like watching fwd rally cars.
Yeah, we need 4wd e rally cars! Electric rallycross cars are pretty fast already so I can't wait for the future.
Uhh sounds weird without Dino juice powered cars, All I hear wiiiiiiiiiirrr whiiiiiiiiirrr😂
Id say the future of rally or any motorsport should be synthetic fuel because even if the main car industry may or may not turn to synthetic fuel some synthetic fuel plants should be enough for motorsport because jist because the main industry might be going electric doesnt mean motorsports should because the sound of a rally car its sould woul be taken.
1:20 Tie Fighter sound ! :-)
I'm sad 😭
Wir lieben Opel
I actually like it! It's a totally different set of sounds, most of which we can't normally hear like the gears and tires. Way more interesting than electric on a track because of the changing conditions.
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...i can't believe that, that's a nightmare.
I agree with you, man. Obviously it’s not everyone’s cup of tea and it will lose a lot of viewers, but it’s still exciting to watch
i really hope this isn't the future of rallying lol but its pretty cool tho
E rally will exist exactly as long as there are too many dying visitors because they cant here the car comming
Reminds me of that diesel fiat stilo era where the fucking rally cars had sirens on there roof so the visitors knew they were comming
One word: pathetic
It is going to be very strange but also good in other ways.
I totally agree
it is not a motorsport. it is a battery sport.
*electric motors lol
I'm looking forward to seeing it live at a Rallye. Yes, loud ICEs are nice, but while this is different I wouldn't say it's BAD - after all, sound isn't everything! in fact this looks like it's just as much fun to watch as other cars. It helps that (as far as I know) they're actually going for fast times and not, like the electric hillclimb class, just for regularity.
Are you blind, it's a piece of shit, and the death of rallying.
@@scoobyking555cm I saw you on every single comment that suports electric cara for rally? Whats wrong with electric cars? It won't be a death to rally because it will still exist. Just because they don't have engine sound doesn't mean its shit.
If anyone is doubting electric cars for this application, they should look at what Formula Student cars are doing. It's incredible how well they can maneuver through the tightest corners, an all-wheel electric drive would only be an advantage in these situations
No thank you very much.
Call me a dinosaur and give me my 2.0 WR cars...
amen, let Class B make a big return, WRC circuit and all
Until they are beaten by EVs that are faster.
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Amazing sounds :O
Sehr cool gemacht.
Sehr gute Veranstaltung hoffe es bleibt noch länger.
Diesmal bei der lutherische Egge das war ziemlich gut aber leider nicht gut genug
Habe ihnen jetzt abonniert.
Habe auch paar Videos ein Teil ist schon da die andere kommen.
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I don't think this bad... Just weird to see it in this Era
Der Sound ist es der die Leute an die Rennstrecken zieht
Im Moment fokussieren wir uns komplett auf die Performance vom Auto. Der Sound ist daher noch nicht final entwickelt. Das oben gezeigte Auto hatte gar kein Sound-Modul eingebaut. Ist alles im Entwicklungsstadium. Der Kundensport ist in der Historie von Opel Motorsport tief verankert und hat eine lange und erfolgreiche Tradition. Entsprechend wichtig ist und bleibt uns diese Sparte. Klar, dass wir hier begeistern wollen.
@@Opel das ist aber doch der gänzlich falsche Weg. In wenigen Jahren redet kein Mensch mehr von dieser E-Mobilität wie sie derzeit gehipt wird. Konzentriert euch doch auf das was ihr viele Jahre richrig gut konntet, geile kleine Autos mit Verbrennungsmotor
@@rallyem1ke Das ist völlig falsch, dies ist ein Top-Auto, viel mehr Spaß als die langweilige WRC.
Wouldn't say no if offered one lol
Why in the hell would anyone race an electric car first off?
Beğenmeyen şerefsizlerin sorunu nedir?
Ben beğendim Opel Yine Mükemmel Bir İş Çıkarmış👍
Türk görmek ilginç buralarda, neyse.. Onlar elektrikli araba sevmezler herhalde... Açıkçası benzinli ye göre 75 daha iyi tekere güç veriyor elektrikli ler... Ne kadar vites veya ses olmasada.. iş görür
Mitsubushi sound
This is great. I love the soprtiness of the Opel Corsa-e. Well done!
sembra il V10 della f1
Questo ucciderà il rally
Should be rwd with two motors.
Fucking shit, if all rallying becomes electric then i Wont be coming to see it anymore
wow speed easy get bhp !!
Wow this is amazing. A bit wired without the engine sound. But damn cool. :D
You want manufacturers to come into Rallying? This is how you do it unfortunately, look at the DTM 2 out of the 3 main manufacturers have pulled out and putting that money into Formula E
Then why was the electric Rallycross championship a failure?! As soon as electric cars were supposed to be introduced, manufacturers left.
@@xinporco formula e is a failure too
Tuning vacuuuuummmm cleaner
So sad to see so many dislikes, just because of the sound. Maybe you guys forgot that motorsport is about going fast.
Its actually about the show. No crowds - no motorsport, as proven time and again.
@@drazenbudis7881 If they drive fast and it's fun to watch that's already the main part of the show for me - the sound (or lack of sound) won't make me stop watching tbh.
I’m afraid you’re a minority at this point. I for sure won’t be watching it.
@@LaugenEcke As soon as development of the Corsa-e Rally has been completed, you will be excited. There is no experience of an electric rally car that we could turn to. Opel is here at the forefront being the first automobile manufacturer in the world to offer a battery-electric vehicle for customer rally sport. Thus, initially we had to rely on calculations and simulations. These are being gradually replaced with real data which we gain from tests as can be watched above. Our program is going smoothly. Opel has traditionally strong connections with rallying. Now we are moving forward with electric drive and fans will be amazed by the performance of our e-cup rally car. In the drivers seat, our test drivers stated already that they are excited.
@@drazenbudis7881 You will not be missed because you are replaced with others.
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bruh it’s sounds like a v12 f1
The chassis seems a bit too soft and the car too heavy. That's a shame, they should have a really competitive car, just so there is some form of interest in those cars.
With a brand cup car, it is important that the performance remains constant and accessible under all conditions. The equipment should guarantee equal opportunity for all participants. The centre of gravity is low, thanks to the underfloor-mounted battery, and the weight distribution is also very good, which is extremely important for an agile competition car. Now we need to find the most balanced chassis setup.
It is perfect because it looks like a real car you can buy and drive yourself and that is what makes it so fun.
ELECTRIC CARS IS THE MOST BIGGEST SHIT EVER IN THIS WORLD !!!!!!!
Seems like theres a giant lag after braking.... weren't opels piles of shit?
Isn’t
Hmmm ich weiß nicht so recht...
Long time long seeing you my friends from Germany! Always know how to make a state with a bang!
As for the future of rally all I can hear is eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee so definitely they have to develop fake engine roar with powerful loudspeakers😂🤣...just saying.
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Impressive in some respects but in other respects not soo!
They going to have to fit some kind of advanced high pitched wind whistler devices to full electric vehicles so you know it's coming along the track.
Traditionally can't be relying on spectators to keep them selfs safely inches away from the tracks edge when any rally car goes blasting by let alone when an ears wide shut super defining electric rally Car unimpressively whisps by at break neck speeds like an OWL machine on steroids.
SERIOUSLY before any serious injuries happen, the manufacturers & Teams are going to have to put some serious consideration into making COMPETITION GRADE full electric vehicles loud as humanly possible in any electric motor sports.. personally, they should just stick with the raditional petrol/ electric hybrid vehicle ....
Why the fuck not just super high performance Petrol/ electric hybrid rally cars, you know the real interesting cars that have 2 separate but complementary engines in them, why aren't those types vehicles of more interest in rally by now....
And when they crash they wil burn to death in a few seconds yeah verry safe indeed
Hmmmmmm............ give me a minute......
I guess not like that
Syntetic fuel will be better
I like EV's, I love driving powerful EV's, there's really not much that tops the sudden smash in the back when you floor a high performance EV. I'd be interested in driving a rally EV
But Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck watching them race. The lack of noise makes them lack any real emotional appeal
But there are lots of noise.
@@Djeseret Ridiculous noise we said
Soul destroying
schnell ja, aber es fehlt was!
Ist auch noch nicht fertig entwickelt. Sound, Chassis und Fahrwerk - wir sind immer noch am tunen bis wir eine begeisternde und finale Abstimmung gefunden haben. Hier www.opel-motorsport.com/e-motorsport/adac-opel-e-rally-cup/aktuelles/artikel/news/detail/News/adac-opel-e-rally-cup-die-entwicklung-laeuft-auf-hochtouren bleibst du auf dem Laufenden.
Just let EV's compete with combustion cars on equal terms and the shift to EV will happen on it's own when they get their butt's kicked, just look at Hill Climb, EV's are faster, and that's what it is about in the end
Not much to it if there’s zero people spectating. And once it goes full electric, trust me, there will be zero people spectating, because only kind of people that actually like electric cars will never bother to actually go and see races themselves.
@@drazenbudis7881 Spectators coming out to see a Rally does not mean a damn thing anyway? Formula E is doing just fine spectators and all, and it's more exciting then F1
it's only faster because the rules allow it to be faster.
@@skodbolle formula e has not even a fraction of the viewers that f1 has. the only thing people watch it for is because the subtop drivers crash often.
skodbolle Formule E literaly survives because they keep pumping in incredible amount of cash from the outside source - its not self sustainable and with crowds losing interests for live races aswell as broadcastings, it is bound to self implode sooner or later.
I'd be ok with electric rally cars, but this? This ain't it. This isn't even close to a rally car.
The problem with electric racing is... formula E uses diesel/gasoline powered generators to charge the bateries, rally, many times you are far away from a good electrical source (imagine charging batteries fast), what will they do? generators...
It really defeats the purpose of electric cars, to be "greener".
In contrast to Formula E, we won't have any generators. We are pursuing a holistic approach with a purely electrical charging infrastructure.
@@Opel
BULLSHIT
Sounds like a TIE fighter. Awesome!
Mir wird schlecht....wenn das die Zukunft ist dann werden die Zuschauer zahlen drastisch sinken.
Das hat meiner Meinung nichts mehr mit dem guten Rallyesport zu tun