I'm super happy with my 6800 XT. I don't think I've ever enjoyed a GPU this much and I'm 40 going on 41 years old. My first 3D accelerator was a Creative Blaster 3D Voodoo. I've had cards from 3Dfx, S3, ATi, nVIDIA, Matrox, AMD, Intel, etc. I generally have bought a new card each generation and often times one from a few competitors each generation (I'm an enthusiast). I've had all of the greats. Voodoo 2, GeForce 256, Radeon 9700 Pro, GeForce 8800 Ultra, Radeon HD 5870, Radeon HD 7970, Radeon HD 290x, GeForce GTX 980 Ti, GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, Radeon RX 5700 XT, GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, Radeon RX 6800 XT, and plenty of cards on the side. The 6800 XT has so many features while performing extraordinarily well. It overclocks quite easily, which isn't always the case with AMD, hitting 2.8GHz on water with ease (as easy as moving the slider in Wattman). The GDDR memory overclocks to 2,150MHz with Fast Timings, as easy as moving the slider. You have full control over the cards voltage at various intervals and clock speeds, everything can be fine tuned. It's not just a graphics card, it's a toy. It can be tweaked like a well oiled machine. And it's not just voltage tuning, clock tuning, or power tuning, there's also the Radeon software that has so many nifty features like Boost, Chill, etc, that I can tweak my game profiles on a per game basis with the clocks I want the game to run at, the feature set, the voltage, the power level, etc. I mean maybe I want enhanced sync with Radeon Sharpness and the game isn't as intense as it's not a competitive game so maybe I just want it to run at 60 FPS, I can use Radeon Chill, I can use Wattman to lower the clocks, lower the voltage, lower the power level, etc. Game is tweaked, inside the game... you get additional Radeon features should the game support them to push this even further. I think the best way to look at it is that nVIDIA is like iOS and AMD are like Android. Out of the box, iOS is impressive but the flexibility of Android allows you to tweak things beyond what iOS is capable of achieving. I am so impressed that if AMD keeps this up and continues to improve at the rate they have improved with RDNA and RDNA2 with the upcoming RDNA3, they will keep me as a customer (For example they need to fix their encoder. Period). If they do they keep this up, I may in fact never go back to nVIDIA. That's how impressed I am.
It's funny that you mention iOS and Android, because the Nvidia userbase (the fanboys specifically) have an almost Apple like cult going on. The "AMD drivers" meme will never die for this reason.
You named off some cards I haven't heard of in a long time. I still have a Quantum3d Obsidian sitting around. Quake 1 Multiplayer was a powerful incentive to drive the 3d graphics market.
Luckily, in the past few months AMD made a few tweaks to their encoder to bring it much closer to Nvidia's. Along with this, FSR 2.0 was released, which brought better fidelity.
@@vikingsfan2218 Sorry for that comment. It just sounded like fanboy banter to me. But you are right about Nvidia being a better buy at MSRP due to their features. I've bought both Nvidia and AMD and I always liked that AMD cards become competitive with their pricing. Just wanted to add that fsr 2.0 isn't really behind dlss. The execution of both are different. Dlss does seem good with quality but there seems to be a performance drop while fsr is somewhat the opposite. As for driver support, AMD is like a double edge sword. It starts off like shit (which sucks), but it gets much better as time goes on. They support their cards for a longer period of time and performance does get a boost. That's why the AMD fine wine meme exists. As for the encoder, a lot of people ignore that amd has a really good HEVC encoder. It's honestly better than NVENC. It doesn't get mentioned because alot of the conversation is focused on streaming. Twitch and RUclips have supported x264 for the longest time and that is where NVENC shines a lot and beats the AVC encoder from AMD.
most games i play cap out my gpu in the 90% range so i cant stream or anything while gaming in 1440 and most games on ultra i dont even get the 144 they advertised, but they clearly cherry pick those specs
I've been in a similar position as you ,in my region the RX 6800xt was 45% cheaper than an RTX 3080 so I went with that. it's been 8 months now and I'm pretty happy with it.
I bought a 6600xt at msrp and i am really happy switching from a 1060 6gb, it has 1 problem tho , i use a vga moniyor and i have to replug it every time my monitor goes to sleep or after restarting. I got used to it after almost 2 months
I always had Intel all my life, recently i decided to stop overpaying for my hardware, when it was time to get a new gaming computer i decided to go for the most balanced cost/performance instead of just looking at what intel/nvidia had to offer, i switched to a complete AMD system, both CPU and GPU and i couldnt be more happy with it
I'm on the market for a new gaming PC (prebuilt is fine for my needs). I'm having difficulty finding AMD equivalents. I'm looking for something comparable to the current gen Core i7 and a GTX 3060/3070. Any recommendations?
Kinda creepy tbh, me and my brother have been talking about this, never searched about it. Then this perfect video shows in my feed even thought I've never seen a vid from this pleasant guy.
@@aboyaser5608 The algo is now able to dig on your comments, latest videos watched, it "knows" the theme of those videos, what were the videos about. Probably is able to predict what you want to watch next, by a now huge database of the behavior of tons people watching videos, what was the "line" of content they consumed. Yeah, it's scary good.... But it's just code. It's not Skynet. :D :D :D
The algoritym works only 20% of the time. Most of the time it gives you trashy mainstream videos from big media outlets cause it was whitelisted by corpo google...
This is how I see it today, in terms of overall performance Nvidia and AMD gpu's are comparable, the price point is also comparable, with AMD perhaps edging out Nvidia at the moment. The differences in driver quality is non-existant these days, there was a time many years ago when Nvidia's drivers were much better in terms of overall quality and compatibility, but that's something AMD remedied long ago. So if you're buying a new gpu today, you can't really get one over the other by comparing overall performance, you can't just pick one based on which is priced better and the drivers are on a par also. Which leaves us with one thing to compare, features. In this department Nvidia still has the lead, with better Ray Tracing, DLSS, nvenc, how useful those are to you is entirely down to you. Personally, I still don't see Ray Tracing as a must have feature, DLSS is a bigger selling point, but can be offset somewhat by FSR and nvenc isn't going to be used that much unless you do a lot streaming/encoding. The takeaway from all this? Just get whatever peaks your interest, stop with the illogical fanboy stuff over two companies that don't give a crap about you and only want your money. Get whatever suits your needs for lowest price possible.
I think vram configuration is also a huge point you're forgetting. AMD is better with VRAM capacity as games are requiring more memory usage to run their large texture files. I have a 3070 Ti at 1440p and with only 8GB of VRAM im feeling the pinch already. I often reach 7.5GB+ on games at high-max settings. I could theoretically go higher but then the vram buffer bottlenecks me and drops performance to cope. AMD is doing far better in accounting for VRAM buffer. On the same games, you can see in benchmarks that AMD will comfortably go up to 11GB vram usage at higher resolutions if it has a total 16gb capacity while nvidia only has an 8gb buffer which might ne holding it back.
@@YuThinkUrCool Not the case at all, if it was you'd see the results of that all over the reviews. When a card runs out of VRAM performance plummets, you don't see that anywhere in any reviews comparing AMD and Nvidia's cards.
@@WizeguyGaming Using a 5700XT over 2 years and didnt have a single issue. Most crybabies usually had other programs or drivers or even bad pcie cabling causing crashes. I'd rather have a early software bug than an unrecoverable hardware fault lmao. Just do a google image search with "turing space invaders". yep they are all nvidia 20 series cards. and then with 30 series cards 2000mhz crash shit. So please.
The thing is that the influencers out there, you know the guys, promotes Raytraycing and DLSS like things you need to have and if you dont have it almost your PC its incomplete and would not work.
Yeah, the same ones who get pre-builts for $5000+ because they just ticked the most expensive options in the configurator... I've seen some clueless streamers. I can remember this one guy had a 240Hz monitor for like a year before someone pointed out he was still running at 60Hz on it XD
Nowadays you can enable fsr with pretty much any game - the ray tracing performance isn't that good but on the level of 6800xt it should be acceptable. My 6700xt costed almost half of 3060ti price so for that price difference I've accepted lower fidelity.
@@HeyDan1983 It should do Global Illumination, and that is well worth the trouble unless you are into cartoonish stuff. And even cartoonish stuff is fine, but the majority of the games are trying hard to "look real"... which they spectacularly fail at, looking actually worse than cartoons.
I think you've made, and will make, a bunch of fans due to how genuine you are about your thoughts and reviews. I really enjoy this channel, so thank you!
@@LofiBtz Settled for an RX 6650 XT upgrade over my 1060 3GB showing its age. I was really on the fence until I saw it for $263 after rebates/promo codes on Newegg (with tax). A 3050 is just objectively worse in games and a 3060 is upwards of 80-100 dollars more. I was originally going to just get a 1070 for $100 or something on ebay, but ebay is sketchy and I felt like treating myself for my birthday. It's been 7 years and a 1060 wasn't even high-end back then!
Yep, I’m a bit OCD so if I have to leave my PC or sit in the menu of a game I toggle it on to drop my fps to 60 and keep my computer (and room!) cooler then hit F11 to turn it off for high frame rate. It’s been flawless too.
I used an RX 570 for quite a few years and was really happy with it. The drivers weren't too bad. I upgraded to a 1660 super for a couple of years after and was happy with that one too. Now I'm upgrading to an RX 6700 XT. I got it for cheaper than a 3060 so I'm really not fussed about any issues that might come up. So long as it works! (It's an ex-mining card so fingers crossed!)
I never experience any driver issues with my RX470. Even if there were any I I probably didn't affect my gaming experience (for the games I play). And I only update my drivers if the Windows update pops up or the Radeon utility asks me to.
I'm the opposite. Bought the 5700xt in 2019 and sold it last week for a 3070. I had only good things to say about my 5700xt Nitro Plus. In fact, it is by far the best GPU I ever had, and I was switching between AMD and NVIDIA in the past as well. But I had to move on from it because the demand on our area is so high, I can sell it for exactly the same amount I paid in 2019. I went 3070 because RTX and DLSS just won me over, and it is indeed magic when games properly support it. RDR2 feels like a twitch shooter at high refresh rates now, and Control is simply stunning with all RTX effects turned on. But hands down, the thing I immediately miss from AMD is their control panel. It is just miles better than NVIDIA. I can record my game footage, create undervolt curves for my card, adjust my fan curves, and a lot more compared to Geforce Experience.
I also sold my Vega 56 because of the high demand, I sold it for twice as much as what I bought it for... The reason I bought an RTX 3070 is because even an RX 6700 XT was more expensive, let alone RX 6800 which would be more comparable. I also miss the AMD Control Panel, but I'm getting used to the Geforce Experience, it feels kinda bloatwareish due to its size but some features are cool, also the driver updates seem to come much more often than AMD. And yeah, DLSS is miles better than FSR, hopefully more and more games will support it.
@@MrJonas7 Same! The 6700XT is also pricier than the 3070 in our area so choosing the 3070 was a no-brainer for me. I am now used to overclocking through the MSI afterburner and the NVIDIA control panel isn't much of an issue now. But what makes me extremely happy though is that GTA V doesn't have random GPU usage drops at night with the 3070 now. And more importantly, I can still access both FSR and DLSS so it's a win-win purchase.
@@MrJonas7 yes, I am aware of that as well. But my plan is to dispose of this card when the new 4000 series comes out. With the high demand, I can resell my 3070 on a much higher cost next year.
Great job man! Keep going with this good job. The part that you buy your things was very important to me to hear, that means that you're not telling whatever the manufacturer wants you to tell just to repay the gift card, this makes a great difference when receiving these feedback.
Returning to this video on Sep 25th, after everything we have heard about the rtx 4000 series and nvidia treatment of EVGA and other board partners I think I’m more excited about AMDs next gpus than nvidia’s, I have a 3080 now but I think I might switch with my next purchase, of course it is a couple years down the road but who knows if Nvidia will get their act together
Thanks for being so objective! Great video all around! Got a 6800 sold it for a 6700xt as I don't need the power and am very happy with it! The greatest thing about AMD is that they provide open source drivers on Linux, which I run daily, so that's just been a blast! I have a Nvidia in my laptop and their driver on Linux just sucks...
My 6700xt is great for 1440p. I also have 2 3070's and they are also very good at 1440p. I set all my games to max settings and all 3 cards run about the same fps around 80-120 fps.. All my machines are on air cooling and the temps are very similar in all. Usually mid 60c's under load.
My 3070 broke, they sent a replacement back, I sold it for $2000 aud and then bought a 6900xt for $200 aud more - I haven't missed rtx/dlss and teamed with a 5800x it is an awesome combination at 4k - the amd software is improving. The 6900xt was $1200 aud less than a 3090. I've also had more issues with nvidia gpu's breaking after 2-3 years (I don't overclock)... Even with a 3070 I disabled raytracing as it's a waste of time.
@@ghostedragon964 Man you're so lucky in my country RX6900xt price is about $1950-2800 depend on it's brand and Rtx3080ti is about $2100-2900. If 6900xt price is only $1500 I'll buy it for sure. I will sold my 3080 since it price is around $1500 now, and I bought it when it price still $990
This could be the most unbias, REAL review I have seen for anything. All your points were thought out like an actual end user. All the issues you experienced were explained clearly and not too much tech jargon. It was as if I experienced that gpu myself. Great job!
Have bounced between AMD and Nvidia over the years in GPUs many times, and Intel and AMD in CPUs. Get what fits your performance for the price for your needs. Either are always fine. Even when one is "better" it's not like night and day.
For steaming (not RUclips or productivity you just shouldn’t get an Amd gpu) real time nvenc is so much better. And this is coming from someone who prefers Amd gpus
Crazy that this is even a valid topic for a whole video. I had Nvidia for over a decade. Went 6900XT back when they launched ($1200, same price I had sold my 2080Ti for). I used logic for my decision instead of acting like a fanboi. Works great, and I don't miss Nvidia.
I've built my pc last week due to your recommendations. I really like your genuine style of telling what you experienced, no bs really onto point which we all wanted. Thanks Daniel, hope you get bigger, you really deserve it with the distinctive content you have.
Welcome to team red. My entire PC is AMD and I have been using AMD GPU's for years and years all the way back to the days of the ATI Rage series. I have an RX 6800 XT myself and I couldn't be happier. I run 1440P 144hz.
Thank you for sharing, do you hold a 144hz 1440p? What about the 99%, 1% lows? I'm hoping the 4070 ti or 7800xt or something will be able to hold a stable 144hz at 1440p.
@@Lena-vw6ye 1% lows matters not if you constantly try to push the GPU on 100% load trying to do 320fps constantly with vsync off and way above a 60hz monitor... Nvidia control panel is stupid to navigate and GeForce Experience is a bigger drain on resources. since people turn to MSI afterburner for tuning. Also 144hz and a constant 144fps on desktop isn't always stable on the OS, some software really doesn't seem to like high refresh rates in general, outside of games.
You are running 1440 at 144hz? L O L I HAVE A 2080ti and am running 1440 at 165hz with everything on ultra. No comparison between nvidia and amd. Let's look at it like cars. "For the money" Kia is better than Mercedes but for those that want better they pay for the Mercedes. The only people talking about how Kia is better deal for the money are those that cannot afford the Mercedes. AMD is the kia.
From some tests I gathered that AMDs H.265 encoder is actually better than Nvidias. Can't use it for livestreaming, sadly (RUclips works I believe), but it could be used to record game footage at a better size/quality coefficient. Might be worth a try.
Why can't they do the same same for the more widely used H.264 format! It's not like they're poor now, they're earning ridiculous amounts of money currently on both CPU and GPUs.
@Daniel Owen great video, it's good to see an honest review :) Don't know if anyone else mentioned it, but you may not need to reboot the PC if you get the black screen/driver crash - you can reset the display driver by pressing Win+Ctrl+Shift+B on the keyboard. I had to do this a few times with a 5700XT. Anyway, I just sub'd, looking forward to watching more of your content!
The GPUs I had and enjoyed at most were RX470 and RX580. I really loved that experience with AMD. Recently I upgraded to a RTX 3060Ti. Oh man, I hate GeForce Experience. I miss the Adrenalin software, I miss AMD Link. If the RX 6700xt were available for a similar price when I bought the 3060Ti, I would probably have gone with AMD instead
I was tending between a 6700XT and 3060TI 2 at nearly the same price point, finally went with the 6700XT after a hard time of deciding, guess it were the 12 Gigs of VRAM that made me decide in this way...But yeah, u cant do anything wrong with the 3060TI, best product in the 3000-line in terms of PP
Have to say that I fell a lil bit in love with Adrenaline 2, now also using Radeon Software and Ryzen Master instead of Afterburner and Rivatuner / HWInfo
I bought an RX 6700XT (new) for $485,- ! And I'm so happy with it ! 12GB of Vram, perfect for my X-Plane flight sim ! Before I had an RTX 2070 super, and all I got, was stutters every 2 seconds ! *So proud to DUMP that Nvidia crap ! My RX 6700XT is running sooooooo much smoother and faster !* Never seen ANY stutter again ! #Radeon4life Can't wait to buy an Radeon DNA-3 GPU !
I will for sure consider AMD GPU when I can afford to upgrade, but I'm a Linux user, which means I get way better drivers with AMD than Nvidia GPU's because AMD's drivers are open-source, while Nvidia is closed-source and sucks at Linux with Nvidia on Linux, gaming basically sucks, but with AMD, it's awesome and more games can run properly without issues sure, on Linux, I might not get RT or upscaling yet (haven't really tried with my RTX 2070S), but kinda as you said, it's not really worth to care about it, except upscaling when it's actually required to get a usable FPS, but I do not play heavy games anymore, so it doesn't matter at all for me
@@DKTD23 They have definitely gotten better. The issue i constantly run into is with older software getting terrible framerates since the card never gets out of idle. There are ways around it but it's an issue i never had with Nvidia.
My first build and like you said I would have went with a 3080 because of what I heard but after alot of research I got 6800xt along with a 5600x. Absolutely love it. Having smart access memory is a plus as well
I wanted a 3070 but also ended up with a 6900xt, really happy with it. Pretty surprised about the driver issues, I haven't had any issues at all and overall find the software much better to use (I never bothered with the Nvidia software with my 2070s but adrenaline feels so light weight).
Thanks for a real take, instead of a hot one. I’ve been all AMD for a couple years now. AMD hasn’t had “those driver issues” since the 5700xt dropped. Some people just like to only know the information that makes their opinion valid, no matter how outdated it is. For me, The only real advantage Nvidia has now is raytracing. My processor handles any streaming/recording encoding I need pretty well. AMD released FSR 2.0 a couple weeks ago. I don’t have any experience with DLSS 2.0, but this new FSR is definitely a game changer for us. I just got a 6900xt at retail today. And I’m perusing recent gpu vids to get reacquainted with the performance I’ll soon be moving to.
BS i have a 6700XT Hell Hound edition and off of factort reset the VRAM idles at 1990MHz. Even with drivers updated, windows updated, nothing else installed it still idles there. AMD has even acknowledged the issue stating they don't know why these issues are happening
I have a MERC 319 6900XT and a 3080 12GB. I'm seeing better min FPS and at least 40 watts less power consumed on that card vs the 3080 12gb. Smart Access Memory is working better on 6900XT with my 5800X3D CPU.
@@MustExecute they'lll figure it out eventually. That sounds like power tables to me, but AMD is like a fine wine, eventually it will get pushed in an update.
@@DKTD23 I've been an AMD fan since day one but because of this high vram idle I'm unable to run games at high settings. Escape from tarkov is virtually unplayable now. Their "solution" on their forum page is drop your refresh rate on your monitors....which also doesn't work.
I had a 5600 XT with constant crashes, even after flashing a newer vBios. Unfortunate, but a friend sold me an "old" 1080 Ti for 100€ right before the massive price increases, so for now I'm set. But in the future I will absolutely go back to AMD, I don't want to support Nvidia and I hate how limited and ugly their control panel is, let alone the need to use GeForce Experience for driver updates..
steam charts say 3090 sold better than even 6500XT, there is a good reason. and why is this guy promoting AMD on his own channel.. AMD must be fucked so hard
I got a 6700xt. It works and performs well. When the next AMD gpus launch I'm gonna try to get one. I really like the software too. I play in 1440p and I personally do not care about ray tracing at all. This is my first AMD card.
@@Xilent1 I just ran a benchmark for cyberpunk Average fps is 97 Min is 69 Max is 143 2560 by 1440 is my resolution I have v synch and FSR on I'm playing medium settings with things such as shadows and fog turned down to low and medium. Benchmark for high settings with FSR on is 69 average. Min 48.45 Max 92.23 I hope this helps I have the Gigabyte version. It works pretty damn well for 1440p if you realize it can't run everything at high in 60fps but it's good enough for me
@@smoothestofbrainsi have 4K TV, but it does 1440p 120hz VRR/Freesync All I want is at least 1440p/60+ no RT. I would cut off v-sync and fsr and turn up graphics to high. I should still good over 60fps average anyway. Thanks again for your info and help bro. Happy gaming
@@Xilent1 it's pretty game dependent. Like Apex legends max settings for graphics something like cyberpunk you gotta make adjustments. I would recommend a 6800 series card if you can find one but if not the 6700xt isn't terrible. From leaks I heard the next series is supposed to be 1.5-2x the performance of the 6000 series but who knows if that's true. I can test Elden ring when I get home from work if I remember.
@@smoothestofbrains I agree with the Apex and Cyberpunk comment. I thought about the 6800xt for my monitor/TV. Of course, price isn't what I'm comfortable with, though cheaper than the 3080. Yeah, I heard the same about the 7000 Series as well as some big numbers for the 40 Series. Stock to the side, the prices may still be HIGH, so I may should wait for those OFFICIAL numbers come out for those series. Elden Ring is having stutters on every CPU/GPU for now. Even the 5950x stutters. They need a patch soon. Hope you enjoy the game either way. bro.
I bought a Sapphire Nitro+ 480 8GB for £250 not long after they came out, before all this madness! I recently updated to a 1440p monitor. It's been an excellent card, and has performed surprisingly well at 1440p. I imagined I would have to but another card but it's been great. I liked this video for it's honest appraisal and valid info. If you're a gamer and you have heavily favoured titles it's worth seeing which company is sponsoring those titles, as their software affects performance on those titles. This is more noticeable lately with RT being a feature of course.
Went from a 470 to a 580 (second hand), then 2 years ago got a 5700xt. Doubled my FPS, and made competitive titles fantastic. Recently went to a 3080, and once again, doubled my fps....it all takes time!
Dude your footage is crisp AF. I'm thoroughly impressed. Also, I definitely have to agree with everything you've said. Hopefully the OBS issue gets fixed sooner than later lol.
Use the HEVC output format in Radeon Software, you need to get an extension for it Microsoft made in the MStore, since by default you can't view those file types. It provides lower file size and better image quality then normal so it will get closer to NVIDIA
Does AMD provide a "NVENC h265 equivalent" dedicated chip? NO , but WHY??? Why the hell AMD humiliate screen recording, streaming, encoding and decoding, why AMD's hardware encoding VCE sucks?? Just why? Premiere pro, Handbrake, OBS are performing good using NVIDIA cards because of NVENC chip. Go to hell AMD.
@@Almighty_Flat_Earth actually. AMD has the better h265 encoding whereas nvidia has the better h264 encoding. The only problem is that h264 is used in a lot more places compared to h265
I did buy the XFX Merc 319 Speedster 6900xt black edition limited....back in days and these driver timouts were a nightmare for me. Every friend which had 6800xt didn't have this issue, after some research you can see on official AMD Forum that problem persists with the 6900xt series - mainly and didn't go away, it went worse. I ended up giving up on AMD like some other users did in the thread. To mention the thread im talking about was I believe years old and not a single support answer/help..... I am using 4070 ti yet, everything is fine and most importantly im happy to play games without grey screen, driver crashes....
@@sajithsaji3606 Image quality depends on your in game settings and your monitor technology. That being said as long as your gpu has enough power, both AMD and Nvidia can deliver same quality. Beside of that if you are interested in using Ray Tracing or Path Tracing, Nvidia is ahead and delivers better performance. If you are streamer, you also profit with Nvidia, not only because of Nvidia Broadcast, also Nvidia started collab with OBS and Twitch, the beta is starting soon and allows delivering better quality. Some people are using Vtubing or Ai Voice Changer, if you like things like that, Nvidia is again the choice you should go. But if you say I don't need none of these, then probably AMD is best way to go. Also to mention Nvidia started developing Nvidia Ace ft. Convai, what that is you can search on RUclips. Some friends of mine sees me as AMD hater, but I am not, for my personal needs, Nvidia just fits better. This one experience with my 6900xt should not represent the general performance of AMD. I just didn't risk second time and just grabbed Nvidia again - I am happy now...
IMPORTANT: OBS just got an update to support RUclips streaming with a native integration: bitrate 50.000 and transcode always available, goodbye Twitch as far as I'm concerned. And for AMD cards that means not suffering the encoder penalty anymore :)
And if people dont have good upload speed?On Nvidia cards people Can stream on youtube wirh h265 encoder wirh less,half bitrate and super quality on hls protocol.But AMD h265 not work for stream.AMD encoder trash.I never again buy AMD GPU.
@@colonelangus7535 OBS does not encode, an encoder does (which OBS is not) such as NVENC and x264, you as a user can choose the encoder that OBS calls.
I was going to get that exact same one but then found an OG reference 6800 XT for $330 less. I didn't think that I'd ever get an original but I got damn lucky! LOL
Thank you for such a detailed explanation of your point of view! I was and still am a value consumer and a casual gamer, which is why I have been using mostly AMD hardware (CPUs and GPUs) for over a decade now with few exceptions. Currently, I am running 6900 XT, but I've also had 6800 XT, 5700 XT, RX 590, and RX 570 before, and I agree that AMD software suite is fantastic when compared to Nvidia, despite all of the other negatives in AMD drivers.
Is it worth it for Destiny 2? Or the upcoming Battlefield game? I haven’t tried it yet because I don’t know how to enable it. Kinda scared because it’s my first pc and I barely know what I’m doing. Lol
A year late, just found the channel. I was in a similar situation to you, wanted to buy a 3070, but wasn't going to pay scalpers. In December 2022, prices had come down to close to MSRP so I started shopping. After I saw how the 40 series was turning out, the 4070 was probably not going to be amazing for the price so I started looking at AMD. I picked up a 6750XT and didn't regret it at all. It was a massive upgrade from the GTX 1060. I didn't have any issues, and the AMD software is so far beyond what Nvidia provides. So about a month ago I decided I'll buy a 7900XTX because the 6750XT was amazing. As with the 6750XT, I haven't had any issues with it. I haven't done a whole bunch of recording this year so I'm not sure on the quality, but I'm interested in seeing how AV1 performs. Overall I've been happy with AMD gpus so far. I can't comment on DLSS vs. FSR because I haven't used DLSS. No matter how good a recording or screen shot, it won't replicate it enough. If you are in the market for a new GPU, do give AMD a look. Give Intel a look as well if you willing to deal with the issues those cards do have. Ultimately don't be a fanboy for any of them, inform yourself and make a decision based on your needs.
With how AMD has been making pretty big leaps in performance with their new GPUs and CPUs (just got a Ryzen 5600x and it's amazing) I have a feeling the next gen GPUs will be more equal to Nvidia's or even better. I have a 2080 S and I barely use RT. I'm curious to see how the next gen GPU's will stack up against each other. I am happy to hear AMD driver/software have gotten a lot better!
There are literally 2 games imo that raytracing looks great....control and cyberpunk....and one of them sux....it's not control hehe but agree it not needed. Dlss is great though especially older hardware and laptops
@@samwallace7341 Never played Control, not my type of game I guess lol. Cyberpunk was a let down for sure but RT does look great in that game. The game is better with mods too lol. DLSS and FSR are both game changers. Love em.
@@harshpatil9825 What a load of BS. The 12600K costs more than the 5600X, and the motherboards are certainly more expensive. The gaming performance is similar (see video). I do not call that "dominating" at all. Moreover, the 12600K came out a full year (!) after the 5600X. It is actually disappointing that Alder Lake ISN'T dominating Ryzen 5000. ruclips.net/video/8193LeTgRrQ/видео.html
I'm playing with a 6800xt and its killing it when it come to gaming. Great buy! Oh and I got the Merc 319! ( was playing gears 5 on ultra @ 1440p and was getting 160+ fps)
if you're gonna be just gaming normally then amd is PERFECT, just lovely, but when it comes to ray tracing, it's just not that fast and if someone's gonna have workstation loads then nvidia's definitely faster because of the amount of support they've gotten from the devs these past few years
@@justin7143 don't even get me started on the rgb lmao. My pc stays preset on dark mode... meaning no lights whatsoever. And honestly there is no better looking card than the power color special edition. That card is just insane
I've been an Amd user since I bought my first computer in 2008, I've had 8 different AMD GPUs since that time and for me they always delivered untill something like 5 or 6 years after launch. And regarding drivers issues I had really few. Last couple of years I've played many hours online games with friend (I'm usually the only one not using Nvidia) and it was very common for them for the games to crash or have issues I never had. Pretty sure also drivers age really well. I always considered my AMD pc being much more stable than my Intel/Nvidia gaming partners. But then again I also saw my brother running a 5700xt and having many issues with drivers and crashes. Now we both run 6700xt and I'm more than happy on every aspect.
can attest to lots of driver/crashing issues on rx5700xt, hoping the 6700 I just bought is a smoother experience because performance has been great otherwise.
I’m actually pretty impressed how well my 5700XT still does and stacks up to its contemporaries. There have been some weird quirks like intermittent black screens but that is easily fixed by switching to a different refresh rate and back. That’s really been my only issue with it. AMD and Nvidia are both making super solid cards right now… really can’t go wrong with either if you get them for the right price.
Sold my 2070 Super, bought a 6800 XT and im happy with it. Performance on mass. Not missing DLSS. Drivers stable for me. Software seems also to be better.
Owner of an RTX 3080 Ti here and I need to say that the AMD 6900 XT is (despite the capacity in VRAM) pretty much the same. Saw side by Side comparisons and the difference was 4-7 frames. Sometimes with AMD in the lead and sometime with Nivida in the lead. *A M D C A R D A R E N O T B A D C A R D S* Anyone who says they are is wrong.
My first AMD experience was with a Sapphire 6800 XT from Newegg, I live in the middle east and the warranty support was extremely bad. The card worked fine for around 3 months April - June 2021, after that I started experiencing Black screens / Green screens in games, then started to experience it in desktop, and finally I couldn't even use my PC, a lot of people online had the same issue, My card was almost bricked, it wouldn't display anything, good thing I had an EVGA 3080 FTW Ultra to use on the side, for some time I had the 2 GPU's on 1 PC Mining while I wasn't gaming, the 6800 XT Mines perfectly but wouldn't render out anything at all, finally I swapped it with a new 3070ti from a miner after telling him the issue and he was okay with it, good thing I got rid of that trash.
I built my first PC when AMD announced their new ryzen CPU's, so after DYOR i decided to go full AMD: Ryzen 5 3600 and Sapphire Pulse RX 5600 XT OC. After a year I'm glad with my built and it runs the games I play like a charm. Will prob update again with AMD in the future.
I’m running a 6800xt since february ‘21 and so far the only real issue (gaming side) i have experienced is that temperatures are a little too high even with fans runnnig 100% (80º to 84º celsius) on high load. Except that it’s an amazing card for gaming, even more with an AMD CPU and a MoBo that can enable Smart Access Memory, I run Warzone 4K ultra settings getting 120+ FPS avarege. Anyway nice vid, You have found yourself a new subscriber!
In my experience, those black screens are caused by the card trying to draw more power than the power limit. Increasing the power limit in AMD software resolved the issue for me. If the card is overclocked, back off the overclock a bit and/or increase core voltage and power limit.
It really depends on the card. For mining, some cards like the Rx 500 series need to be set into compute mode within amd software, and playing with memory timings can also increase hashrate. There is no perfect setting that everyone can use, you just need to feel your card out and see what works for you.
Unfortunately thats only a 6800 to 6900 XT thing and at 1080p and 1440p not 4K(tho i personally think chasing 4K is kinda not worth it). The 6700 XT and 6600 XT are just significantly slower at rasterization than their 3070 and 3060 ti counter parts.
@@patrickleeastarjohnson2918 Nvidia gave people a card that “competes” with a 6700 in raster but ONLY IN NVIDIA OPTIMIZED TITLES LOLLLL get outta here. 8gb of memory only, total sham. Here’s something recent you can compare to. ruclips.net/video/-LRSC9rje30/видео.html
More people need to see this video. I owned almost every single RTX 3000 GPU as well as every Radeon 6000 GPU except the 6600XT and 6700XT. Ended up keeping the 6900XT after testing all cards.
@Stephan initially I didn’t. I just wanted the fastest card for the games I personally play. And after a lot of testing that was the 6900XT. Being the cheaper, more power efficient and therefore quieter card was a nice bonus.
Same here. I went 3090. Then 6900 XT. Then 6800 XT. Then 3080 ti. And I'm on 6900 XT in the end. Literally same, better, or within 3% of performance in the games that I play compared to 3090. Less power draw. Less heat. More quiet. I don't do DLSS or ray tracing. Doesn't help me with anything at all. The only negative I have is its annoying to get Valve Index VR going on AMD. 3440x1440.
It's quite different seeing my old high school teacher being on a RUclips channel! Either way, I've thought from launch that Ray Tracing wasn't a necessary feature currently as it just isn't worth the cost currently (monetary and drawbacks that come with getting the GPU and running RTX). I'm still running my 1070ti and waiting to upgrade, but I am seriously considering AMD cards now. Sidenote: have you heard/read anything about the GTX soldering issues that's been causing bricked GPUs on games like New World?
I've heard a little about it. From what I recall it seems to effect multiple brands and I think there was another game that was doing it too? It seems to be a goof on nvidia's engineering side. It would make me hesitant to buy a 30 series card. Honestly the lack of ram is an issue for me too. Lack of ram is an issue I have with my GTX970 and I would rather not have that problem again.
I have a 2070 super, and tbh, Ray tracing I can take it or leave it. I will be seriously considering an AMD switch on the 7xxx series, whenever it's released.
I'm a bit of an Nvidia fan myself but the past few years have been missed out because of pricing. I've been stuck at the GTX 1070. I ordered an RX 6700XT last night. Even at $1000, the Nvidia competition was $300 more. That's for a 3070. So, for now, looks like I'm team Red. lol
AMD driver issues are mostly non existent, but they are there, and for some games they are literally game breaking. I literally cannot play Battlefield 1, due to driver issues. I got an rx 5700 btw.
What's this? A balanced take, on RUclips? Don't you know how the algorithm works? :p Just kidding dude, I appreciate the objectivity. I was kinda in the same boat as you but went Team Green this time around. Have a sub, you deserve many more.
Thanks for the review, it’s great to see a review after the original release showing the aging of the tech and how it compares now with driver updates and etc.
I've had all AMD builds since Ryzen came out and just built a new all AMD PC and it's awesome. I can monitor and manage the hardware, overclock and install drivers all in the same app.
Is there a real benefit from going with an AMD GPU if using an AMD CPU??? I've searched and never really found a real answer either way...I'm really curious about this
I'd love to see a review with a full AMD build, with FSR being integrated into more games, I think the FSR + SAM combo would give you so much more performance. More power to your channel man! 🙌🙌
To me the thing has always been cost to frame ratio. AMD, at least for the most part, has always been where the value is. At least from my perspective, they are taking less "advantage" of me and my dollar. Obviously, Nvidia makes great products, but charging me crazy prices to boot.
Ive actually been saying this for years now. I actually moved to AMD when my son worked for them and i wont lie i got some great free things. That said, ive stayed with AMD on the last 3 builds because of price per performance. Nvidia nowadays is at least 100 more than the comparable AMD card(sometimes a lot more) for literally single digit gains in fps on average.
@@kahrhoshe absolutely. There is virtually, at least in my mind, no reason to stay Intel unless you are fanboying hard. Price per dollar, it can't be beat.
AMD and before them ATI have always been competitive and offered more for the money but nvidia knows how to market and manipulate the consumer and so have always had their large dedicated base of fanboys.
@@bubbles1525_ AMD, here in the states, has always been much cheaper. Even on the high-side of things. Really though, cheaper is cheaper. Doesn't matter if it's $1 or $100, if I can get roughly the same performance across the board with a cheaper AMD build... why wouldn't I?
Companies can be good or bad when they illegally stifle competition. I'm happy to give my money to AMD because of nvidia and Intel having such ethically questionable histories
@@Ferengi4 They are a corporation too, so you can't trust them like you trust a close friend. But I guess it makes sense that people want NVIDIA lose market share to AMD, Intel (or whoever wants to enter the GPU space) - we all know the dangers of monopoly.
@@Ferengi4 it was mostly a card to be "available" its crap for mining but sadly crap for gaming too. It is however the only card closest to msrp while also somewhat cheap. I think AMD just tried to pull something off to save "gamers" but failed.
@Anarchy intel has chipsets too though? Also with amd you could use a single chipset (b450) for a very long time. I don't know what you mean by "no issues" or "comparable with windows" both intel and amd work well.
@@Ferengi4 a model being released that isn't great but isn't screwing people over... how is that so bad? The things that anger are when they illegally stifle their competition, steal tech, or use frivolous lawsuits to screw smaller competitors, or intentionally slow down innovation because they have control of the market. Intel and nvidia have both been found guilty repeatedly of illegal monopoly behavior and a lot of other nasty illegal business practices. I'd much rather give my money to the underdog that has been constantly pushing advancements for the last 2 decades.
AMD doesnt have driver issues anymore. Couldnt be happier with my 5800x/6800xt combo exceptgpu is not a 6900xt. But do consider watercooling, Ryzen and RDNA responds real good to that.
What ive seen time and time again, the color compression on nvidia gpus is way worse then on amd. I upgraded back in 2017 from an r9 390x to an 1080ti and the first thing i noticed how washed out and less vibrant/detailed the picture looked compared to amd. Many people complained about that, but no one is talking about this issue.
I think thats just an issue with Nvidia cards defaulting to limited color space when using an hdmi cable. Imagine all the people out there that don't realize that their gpu isn't displaying colors correctly.
@@themadnes5413 Glad you brought it out, I haven't seen any reviewers talk about it...a side by side comparison of any amd vs nvidia card (current/previous generations, low-end/high-end card) would reveal this - better/truer colors, sharper images & edges...of course there is more VRAM usage on the Radeon cards...also do not think it is a hdmi vs display port issue these days as I've used both...I've been asked to upgrade to an Nvidia GPU, but still remain in the Radeon camp only because of the visual fidelity that they offer
That sounds weird, Harware unboxed saw no difference in testing. There has to be a difference in the settings somewhere, like defaulting to a lower color gamut or something. This is a comment tTim from HW made I'm quoting here, I'd link to the thread, but youtube deletes comments with outside links these days: "HardwareUnboxedTim 1622 points 5 months ago*225 Tim here from Hardware Unboxed. Part of my monitor review workflow involves testing monitors on both Nvidia and AMD GPUs. Two separate test systems, both running default settings in their respective control panels. Currently the Nvidia system has an RTX 3090 and the AMD system an RX 5700 XT I've never spotted a difference between them in color reproduction. I've measured it using my tools in the desktop, web browsers, games. Taken side by side photos and captures. Never spotted any differences. They produce identical images. Because this comes up every so often I did look into it to see if it was worth making a video on but the conclusion was there was no difference so it wasn't worth making a video. Since I can't reproduce it I have to assume it's some sort of configuration issue. EDIT: Back in the day I used to see this occasionally when Nvidia would accidentally default to the wrong RGB range (limited instead of full) but in this particular case apparently that is not the problem so I don't really know how in this case the difference is happening. And those limited/full range issues were a while ago, would have to be several years now "
@@Eonymia I'd seen that same Hardware Unboxed video myself 🙂...well, you could up the graphical settings in the control panels on both the amd and nvidia cards to the highest quality to remove any differences between the default settings on the cards....But, I always notice amd's higher image fidelity/color reproduction (best examples to observe this would be on foliage, leather, blood and skin tones of the characters in the game)....now, there are many recorded gameplay footages where it would be evident...check out say Fortnite, Witcher 3 or any other newer titles like cyberpunk on youtube side by side
I've been pondering about upgrading my 2070 Super, but next generation. Thanks for taking time sharing your experience with AMD. Already got a good deal on 3700x for my other PC.
I used 2 amd card, rx 570 and rx 580. Both of them died after surviving 1 year, I faced a lot of driver and temperature issue. After selling those 2 dead card, I got 20bucks. Then I bought an old gtx 760 2gb only for 35 bucks in 2019 but its rocking still rocking in 2022. I play valorant, csgo, gta5 online flawlessly. Also Nvidia drivers are quite good. Specially it's low Latency Settings helped me to reach diamond in Valorant.. Truly I am satisfied with this old monster. I'm not saying that I'm a fan boy or something. But I loved this card so much 💖
You had a similar upgrade to me then because I got an RX 5700 XT after an R9 Fury. However, that was after over a decade of ATi starting with the HD 4870. LOL
@@AvroBellow Honestly the thing to remember is that after a certain level of GPU performance you are getting basically 100% playable framerates on all titles unless you want the best of the best and got the $$$ to pay for it. Right now theres nothing our current level of performance can't handle well.
Honestly I am surprised with the AMD software. Finally got my card back and it's working, so far its a beast. Especially now that AMD partnered with Microsoft. Wonder if that's going to impact upcoming games in AMD's favor??
If I could compare Nvidia GPUs to AMD ones in terms of driver issues, it's like comparing a bulletproof Toyota to a Nissan that looks cool in terms of specs but starts having issues after the first year. That sums up why I'll never buy another AMD GPU.
I went with the 6900XT red devil around December 21 and the cheapest I could find it was amazon and both 6800 and 6900 were both $1499 so might as well get the newer one and that red glow is pretty badass and supporting Taiwan directly was a bonus.
I still hear the same stuff about AMD all the time. I won't lie that I wish I could use DLSS in certain games, and I'm hoping that FSR will start supporting a lot more games, but I haven't really had almost any trouble with my 6800. I was hoping for a 6800 XT, but I still never dip below 100 fps in any games at 1440p, and most of the time I'm capped 144, so I'm pretty happy with it overall. I've had the same amount of problems that I would've ran into on Nvidia. And as a plus, I got mine at MSRP, so it's hard to complain with the current market the way that it is lol
DLSS aint that great, coming from a 2060 super user. I don't like the ghosting and blurryness... and don't snipe in Battelfield or COD with it on... your looking for a small cluster of pixels for headshots... and they get covered up by the sky, because of dlss.. Except in 4k it helps a shitload
If you never dip below 100fps at 1440p, why the hell would you want to use DLSS? DLSS is for low-end cards like the 3050 and 3060 not for mid-high cards like the RX 6800 or RTX 3070.
In my experience, AMD GPUs are quite bad for compute. They don't have any CUDA equivalent, and while the drivers are much more open, they don't really offer anything that Nvidia doesn't, unless of course you run a Linux desktop. In other words: By buying Nvidia you do not miss out on anything. You can run any game out there and perform any task. By buying AMD you are missing out on all the Nvidia features that they don't support. You CANNOT run many games at their max settings on an AMD card, because they rely on things like RT cores that AMD cards simply do not have. So, games like Lego Builder's Journey, which rely heavily on the RT cores of Nvidia cards, can never look as good on AMD. I've played that game in 4K on my laptop - it looks amazing.
With the jump from RDNA 1 to RDNA 2 being that huge, thats alrdy a huge win for AMD. Cant wait to see what AMD brings to the table next year with RDNA3, Im hoping for a lot better ray tracing perf.
the jump wasn't that big if you consider the price hike, the msrp i mean. The current prices are lovely compared to nvidia's but im talking about just msrp, and hopefully amd will work on their ray tracing and content creation stuff in the next gen because gaming is pretty damn fine but those just suffer heavily
Ray tracing is irrelevant. FSR and DLSS is what matters most. And don't use historical performance improvements to predict future ones. By that logic AMD would have never had the FX years and Intel would never have had 6th to 10th gen stagnation.
@@rattlehead999 I'm not predicting, I'm hoping. Yes Ray Tracing is irrelevant now with current hardware implementations, which is why I'm hoping an improvement from both Nvidia and AMD to make it more mainstream. No need to get so heated man, all I said was what I'm hoping.
I've only owned AMD cards, while about 3/4ths of the PCs I build for friends have Nvidia. The cost to performance (when prices are normal) is competitive, that's the reason I go AMD, and to me that is the definition of being consumer-forward because I had to vote with my wallet and there's no defense for it if your fps is lower or the game looks like play-doh. Anyway, I've never really had any GPU related issues. X570 and Ryzen voltage issues were a thing, that's been well documented and addressed now though, and the solutions back then werent terribly difficult to figure out. I will say one thing though, i used to be a cutting edge feature guy, i always loved using beta OS builds, preview drivers, and insider exclusive software... yeah, eff all that. I'll sacrifice a proposed +10fps in a new game just to sit on a 6 month old LTS driver, as long as im hitting 75hz vsync with no input lag im golden.
If your youtube channel is doing this good after only a year, you're doing something right. You are doing something right Daniel, well done. Also, you're a bad dad, good content creator, bad dad ;) 15:19
I've been using my 6700xt since late March and I love it. I've never gamed on and Nvidia GPU, but that's because I've only been able to get my hands on AMD GPUs
Finally someone who is objective about AMD GPUs. IMHO in games like Metro Exodus Enhanced, the impact of Ray tracing it's significant . For me it's worth it. And for me the problems with OBS it's gone from from drivers 21.9.2
I upgraded to a 6600XT after owning an Nvidia GTX1070. My brother upgraded from a GTX1060. We jokingly say that we bought the "worst reviewed card ever" (due to the terrible MSRP, as well as the current GPU market)... However, both of us were really surprised of its performance and we couldn't be happier. The Radeon Software is GREAT. And the performance was shockingly good. The "Ultra"-benchmarks we watched on youtube channels didn't really tell the story of real life performance with optimized settings. In some games I got 200% performance of my previous card. (but most are around 160-180%). And my brother got even more of an upgrade. Most games we play either don't have RT, or the RT implementation is just waaay too costly performance-wise. The only game I have been really excited about is Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, and it runs great! I run it at 1440p 0.7x Shading rate and 2x VRS. It looks great, looks native. I have 72fps+ with "normal RT". I think people should be less afraid of AMD. Although graphics cards are far from "good value" these days. AMDs makes much more sense due to how expensive nvidia cards generally are. You get much more performance. And both RT and DLSS are way too overhyped in my honest opinion.
6600XT at MSRP was extremely good upgrade for people with a relevant card(at mining) to sell. This was massively missed in all reviews and made people with old cards worth $300-400 not to upgrade to $400 card with double perf because they thought it's not worth of the money. In some cases like upgrading from RX 5600XT would have yielded $200 profit and +35% perf. Just insane opportunities.
@@kognak6640 Yeah, I agree. :) Especially those with RX5000-series cards (on the Swedish market I see 5700XT go for 600$). I wasn't so lucky myself. I got 300$ for my GTX1070. However, I only paid 400$ for it new 5 years ago. So all-in-all, it was a REALLY good value upgrade. the 6600XT upgrade only cost me 150$ total. and I would consider it it a a small sum for the performance improvement, especially with the total lifetime prospect of these two GPUs (7-10 years... as I intend to own the 6600XT at least 2 years-, up to 5 depending on what happens in the market). Sure the 6600XT is semi-expensive if you buy new. But If you can sell an old GPU it can be a real value upgrade. A lot of reviewers missed out on that prospect.
@Kai You are definitely right. I was also in the mindset that I shouldn't upgrade since I was fairly satisfied with the GTX1070. Like many, once the market "went to hell" it left me with a "feeling" that my hobby became unbelievably expensive. However, after a while I realized that the whole situation functioned similarly to reel estate. People are generally afraid to fork out money to buy something (instead of renting) in case they loose money on it. However, in reality, you fork out an initial investment, after that you just follow the market value. If prices go down you buy your next place cheaply, sure you don't get as much for your old, but it doesn't matter. Same thing if prices go up, then your old place has great value. And this was the case with the upgrade. It's kind of laughable, but l thought my GTX1070 was an expensive card for 400$, 5 years ago. Yet it only lost 1/4 of its value over the course of 5 years. Sure the MSRP of the 6600XT was expensive from a theoretical perspective. but really MSRP doesn't matter in a market like this. I was able to snatch it for MSRP here, and the 150$ difference meant one heck of an upgrade. I would consider 250$ difference would still have been a "healthy upgrade"
@@JamesBond-em3uq Nope, many are too stupid to figure out how to fix problems and it's easier for them to say "AMD is junk" instead of admitting to themselves that they don't know what to do when things go wrong. You'll be just as useless when nVidia drivers screw up.
ive actually had multiple AMD cards after sticking only to Nvidia for so long (basically a beta tester lol). they're extremely safe to buy now & the 6800 XT is what you need to aim for if you can afford it. basically a 3080/3090 but you're just saving so much money. no driver crashes, or any issues besides stock. mine is undervolted & has a custom fan profile it's always at like 54-64° under full load. That & fsr being open source is even better than the closed ego crap Nvidia deals with. star of approval ⭐
@@unknowndrift4462 There are two factors that if too high can damage a GPU - one is heat and the other is voltage. Undervolting drops voltage and in result heat as well. So it is well below it's safe, stock settings. Lowering voltage too much without dropping frequency accordingly can cause crashes and instability issues but there won't be any hardware damage and radeon software resets those unstable settings on reboot so you can tweak them again. As chips differ in sillicon quality you need to experiment a lot with your card to see what voltage/frequencies values are the most stable for your undervolt as going for someone else's settings they recommend might not work for your own gpu and results can vary from game to game or usecases. For example 6600XT I undervolted by dropping frequency by 300MHz and voltage by 50mV card only lost about 10% performance but hotspot temperatures went down from 95C on full load to around 65C.
i bought rx 6700 (non xt) instead of rtx 3060. Both had same price here and raw power of rx 6700 is better than rtx 3060. I have my worries still because card is not delivered yet. But this video relieved some of that. Hope i will not have any issues or if i have can solve them quickly.
I've used AMD GPUs for like 4-5 years now. The only big issue has been that I wasn't able to play Wolfenstein: The Old blood, but other than that the experience has been really good. I recently switched to Nvidia though, but only because AMD prices was way more inflated than Nvidia prices where I live.
Excellent content! I wish this video was available earlier since many people who wanted or needed a gpu upgrade such as myself was torn between similar price competitors such as 3070ti instead of 6800xt during the price gouging period. Furthermore, 3070ti on paper/benchmark was slower while the 3080 was extremely more expensive than the 6800xt. Thanks for the video stating the issues because it helps people consider if it really is a big deal.
10:20 I've been getting that on older nVidia GPUs (GTX 770) as well, because I used my motherboard as a passthrough for my Displayport cable. Same thing happens on AMD HD 7950. It could be that Windows itself is at fault here, not the GPU drivers.
I've always been an nVidia user. Like you, I wanted to upgrade to a RTX 3080, but that never worked out. I ended up finding a 6800XT at the current high but retail price and I went for it. It's been a great experience so far. I really like the software suite that allows per game overclocking and undervolting. Playing Cyberpunk 2077 in Linux with Proton-GE (has FSR built in) at Ultra settings and ~100fps is a great experience at my 1600p ultrawide monitor. As to your recording issues, are you using x264? Unless I misunderstood something, AMD is supposed to support H.265/HEVC encoding which should yield superior video and more reasonable file sizes. Might be something worth looking into? Thank you for your video. I've been enjoying your content since I discovered you this year. Keep up the good work, and good luck!
Oh, if you are playing on Linux (Proton-GE) then AMD is a no-brainer. Still cannot run Forza Horizon 4 on my 3060 laptop using Proton, while it runs without any issues on RX6800XT. FSR patch is phenomenal, and in most cases provides better FSR quality than game developers adding FSR support to the game. I was playing Horizon Zero Dawn on Proton-GE with FSR enabled in 4K and was blown away by the quality. I tried it once more after developers added FSR support there officially, and still prefer Proton's FSR implementation despite interface elements are more blurry there :D
Nice to see a fair review. I am very wary of AMD after two rubbish experiences in a row, followed by flawless Nvidia experience. But good to see things might not be quite so bad now
@@sr.chi7741 yeah it’s been an awesome card so far, I don’t use ray tracing a lot (just reflections and shadows in cyberpunk and it performs better than I expected) it runs my crazy MC shaders too so I’m happy 😂
@@sr.chi7741 and it’s nice that the software is one application instead of a separate control panel and driver installer, idk why nvidia hasn’t done that yet
I was honestly surprised when I saw you didn’t have 100s of thousands of subs. Keep up the great work!
Same :D
Same here but I'm adding another subscriber to his list
Sadly not enough click bait and fancy thumbnail to get the views.
Facts
I'm super happy with my 6800 XT. I don't think I've ever enjoyed a GPU this much and I'm 40 going on 41 years old. My first 3D accelerator was a Creative Blaster 3D Voodoo. I've had cards from 3Dfx, S3, ATi, nVIDIA, Matrox, AMD, Intel, etc. I generally have bought a new card each generation and often times one from a few competitors each generation (I'm an enthusiast). I've had all of the greats. Voodoo 2, GeForce 256, Radeon 9700 Pro, GeForce 8800 Ultra, Radeon HD 5870, Radeon HD 7970, Radeon HD 290x, GeForce GTX 980 Ti, GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, Radeon RX 5700 XT, GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, Radeon RX 6800 XT, and plenty of cards on the side. The 6800 XT has so many features while performing extraordinarily well. It overclocks quite easily, which isn't always the case with AMD, hitting 2.8GHz on water with ease (as easy as moving the slider in Wattman). The GDDR memory overclocks to 2,150MHz with Fast Timings, as easy as moving the slider.
You have full control over the cards voltage at various intervals and clock speeds, everything can be fine tuned. It's not just a graphics card, it's a toy. It can be tweaked like a well oiled machine. And it's not just voltage tuning, clock tuning, or power tuning, there's also the Radeon software that has so many nifty features like Boost, Chill, etc, that I can tweak my game profiles on a per game basis with the clocks I want the game to run at, the feature set, the voltage, the power level, etc. I mean maybe I want enhanced sync with Radeon Sharpness and the game isn't as intense as it's not a competitive game so maybe I just want it to run at 60 FPS, I can use Radeon Chill, I can use Wattman to lower the clocks, lower the voltage, lower the power level, etc. Game is tweaked, inside the game... you get additional Radeon features should the game support them to push this even further.
I think the best way to look at it is that nVIDIA is like iOS and AMD are like Android. Out of the box, iOS is impressive but the flexibility of Android allows you to tweak things beyond what iOS is capable of achieving.
I am so impressed that if AMD keeps this up and continues to improve at the rate they have improved with RDNA and RDNA2 with the upcoming RDNA3, they will keep me as a customer (For example they need to fix their encoder. Period). If they do they keep this up, I may in fact never go back to nVIDIA. That's how impressed I am.
It's funny that you mention iOS and Android, because the Nvidia userbase (the fanboys specifically) have an almost Apple like cult going on. The "AMD drivers" meme will never die for this reason.
My first gfx card wasn't even a dedicated card. It was an Nvidia GPU built into the motherboard I used back in the early 2000s.
You named off some cards I haven't heard of in a long time. I still have a Quantum3d Obsidian sitting around. Quake 1 Multiplayer was a powerful incentive to drive the 3d graphics market.
I remember buying the 3dfx to play Quake 2 on my pentium 133.
I have a 6900xt
Luckily, in the past few months AMD made a few tweaks to their encoder to bring it much closer to Nvidia's. Along with this, FSR 2.0 was released, which brought better fidelity.
@@vikingsfan2218 Go away
can u stream with amd cards as good as nvidia cards that have NVENC?
@@vikingsfan2218 Lol fanboy
@@vikingsfan2218 Sorry for that comment. It just sounded like fanboy banter to me. But you are right about Nvidia being a better buy at MSRP due to their features. I've bought both Nvidia and AMD and I always liked that AMD cards become competitive with their pricing.
Just wanted to add that fsr 2.0 isn't really behind dlss. The execution of both are different. Dlss does seem good with quality but there seems to be a performance drop while fsr is somewhat the opposite.
As for driver support, AMD is like a double edge sword. It starts off like shit (which sucks), but it gets much better as time goes on. They support their cards for a longer period of time and performance does get a boost. That's why the AMD fine wine meme exists.
As for the encoder, a lot of people ignore that amd has a really good HEVC encoder. It's honestly better than NVENC. It doesn't get mentioned because alot of the conversation is focused on streaming. Twitch and RUclips have supported x264 for the longest time and that is where NVENC shines a lot and beats the AVC encoder from AMD.
@@socloseagain4298 Again, it's not AS good as Nvidia, but very close. AMD cards are also superior when it comes to H.265/HEVC encoding.
Finally someone make a objective pov no fanboying from neither side.
Exactly
nivida has stock in OBS lol so OBS wont work as good on outher platforms
@@travisjones2089 Its okay I have a Ryzen 9 5900x so I stream and record while gaming but I use my CPU to encode everything
most games i play cap out my gpu in the 90% range so i cant stream or anything while gaming in 1440 and most games on ultra i dont even get the 144 they advertised, but they clearly cherry pick those specs
Its the same
I've been in a similar position as you ,in my region the RX 6800xt was 45% cheaper than an RTX 3080 so I went with that.
it's been 8 months now and I'm pretty happy with it.
Me too, I love my 6800 XT and might bump up to. 6900 XT later
Same story with 6700xt vs 3060ti in my case.
I bought a 6600xt at msrp and i am really happy switching from a 1060 6gb, it has 1 problem tho , i use a vga moniyor and i have to replug it every time my monitor goes to sleep or after restarting. I got used to it after almost 2 months
@@thelordkiller_ytxxshadowmi8813 time for a new monitor bruh you can get a 1080p IPS 144hz monitor for $180
What? Man you are lucky dudu, in my country RX 6800xt is only 5% cheaper..
I always had Intel all my life, recently i decided to stop overpaying for my hardware, when it was time to get a new gaming computer i decided to go for the most balanced cost/performance instead of just looking at what intel/nvidia had to offer, i switched to a complete AMD system, both CPU and GPU and i couldnt be more happy with it
Good luck. 😂
I'm on the market for a new gaming PC (prebuilt is fine for my needs). I'm having difficulty finding AMD equivalents. I'm looking for something comparable to the current gen Core i7 and a GTX 3060/3070. Any recommendations?
@@lolsmol I'm not good at all but I think (it's just thinking) i7=~ryzen 7 and 3060 =~ 6600xt
@@lolsmol The rx 6700 xt nearly matches the 3070 in performance WITHOUT ray tracing enabled. With rtx enabled is a whole different story, though.
hahahahahaha
As I'm a normal person, I have no problem with AMD, actually did a complete AMD build. have had no issues with it, to date.
Same here!
6800XT is a FANTASTIC card, it is also better than the 3080 for sure!
Don't you just love it when RUclips algorithm does its job perfectly?
Great review and very informative. Subscrived.
Same here
Kinda creepy tbh, me and my brother have been talking about this, never searched about it. Then this perfect video shows in my feed even thought I've never seen a vid from this pleasant guy.
@@aboyaser5608 The algo is now able to dig on your comments, latest videos watched, it "knows" the theme of those videos, what were the videos about. Probably is able to predict what you want to watch next, by a now huge database of the behavior of tons people watching videos, what was the "line" of content they consumed. Yeah, it's scary good.... But it's just code. It's not Skynet. :D :D :D
I know, eh? Is the sky falling or something? LOL
The algoritym works only 20% of the time. Most of the time it gives you trashy mainstream videos from big media outlets cause it was whitelisted by corpo google...
This is how I see it today, in terms of overall performance Nvidia and AMD gpu's are comparable, the price point is also comparable, with AMD perhaps edging out Nvidia at the moment. The differences in driver quality is non-existant these days, there was a time many years ago when Nvidia's drivers were much better in terms of overall quality and compatibility, but that's something AMD remedied long ago.
So if you're buying a new gpu today, you can't really get one over the other by comparing overall performance, you can't just pick one based on which is priced better and the drivers are on a par also. Which leaves us with one thing to compare, features. In this department Nvidia still has the lead, with better Ray Tracing, DLSS, nvenc, how useful those are to you is entirely down to you. Personally, I still don't see Ray Tracing as a must have feature, DLSS is a bigger selling point, but can be offset somewhat by FSR and nvenc isn't going to be used that much unless you do a lot streaming/encoding.
The takeaway from all this? Just get whatever peaks your interest, stop with the illogical fanboy stuff over two companies that don't give a crap about you and only want your money. Get whatever suits your needs for lowest price possible.
@@skunk2spec489 Begone fanboy. Your opinion counts for nothing.
Thanks bro that helped allot
There are driver differences on Linux. NVIDIA’s driver is slightly less stable at the moment.
I think vram configuration is also a huge point you're forgetting. AMD is better with VRAM capacity as games are requiring more memory usage to run their large texture files. I have a 3070 Ti at 1440p and with only 8GB of VRAM im feeling the pinch already. I often reach 7.5GB+ on games at high-max settings. I could theoretically go higher but then the vram buffer bottlenecks me and drops performance to cope. AMD is doing far better in accounting for VRAM buffer. On the same games, you can see in benchmarks that AMD will comfortably go up to 11GB vram usage at higher resolutions if it has a total 16gb capacity while nvidia only has an 8gb buffer which might ne holding it back.
@@YuThinkUrCool Not the case at all, if it was you'd see the results of that all over the reviews. When a card runs out of VRAM performance plummets, you don't see that anywhere in any reviews comparing AMD and Nvidia's cards.
As someone who switched to AMD a while back - the 'driver issues' are 'the driver will crash, sometimes, just like nvidia'
Tell yourself what you need to in order to sleep at night lol
@@WizeguyGaming stop being mad
i havent had any problems tbh
@@WizeguyGaming Using a 5700XT over 2 years and didnt have a single issue. Most crybabies usually had other programs or drivers or even bad pcie cabling causing crashes. I'd rather have a early software bug than an unrecoverable hardware fault lmao. Just do a google image search with "turing space invaders". yep they are all nvidia 20 series cards. and then with 30 series cards 2000mhz crash shit. So please.
@@WizeguyGaming What's that supposed to mean? I've had only one easy-to-fix driver issue in the past 7 years of having an R9 290X.
The thing is that the influencers out there, you know the guys, promotes Raytraycing and DLSS like things you need to have and if you dont have it almost your PC its incomplete and would not work.
Yeah, the same ones who get pre-builts for $5000+ because they just ticked the most expensive options in the configurator... I've seen some clueless streamers. I can remember this one guy had a 240Hz monitor for like a year before someone pointed out he was still running at 60Hz on it XD
Nowadays you can enable fsr with pretty much any game - the ray tracing performance isn't that good but on the level of 6800xt it should be acceptable. My 6700xt costed almost half of 3060ti price so for that price difference I've accepted lower fidelity.
@@michahojwa8132 eh, in this day of age if you’re getting poor ray tracing performance at the $1200 price point, that’s definitely a let down
@@bradyruth2487 so what? Its not a required option, actually I will call it a poddle simulator, its all that it does.
@@HeyDan1983 It should do Global Illumination, and that is well worth the trouble unless you are into cartoonish stuff. And even cartoonish stuff is fine, but the majority of the games are trying hard to "look real"... which they spectacularly fail at, looking actually worse than cartoons.
I think you've made, and will make, a bunch of fans due to how genuine you are about your thoughts and reviews. I really enjoy this channel, so thank you!
This man persuaded me too buy the RX 6800, I ain't complaining tho :) Was gonna get the RTX 3070 but changed my mind.
@@LofiBtz Settled for an RX 6650 XT upgrade over my 1060 3GB showing its age. I was really on the fence until I saw it for $263 after rebates/promo codes on Newegg (with tax). A 3050 is just objectively worse in games and a 3060 is upwards of 80-100 dollars more. I was originally going to just get a 1070 for $100 or something on ebay, but ebay is sketchy and I felt like treating myself for my birthday. It's been 7 years and a 1060 wasn't even high-end back then!
the man makes valid points. hard to not like that. idc if he is talking about nvidia or amd. we need more honest people especially reviewers.
I'm really glad you mentioned the cool software features, I honestly love Radeon chill to keep my card nice and cool for extra longevity
Yep, I’m a bit OCD so if I have to leave my PC or sit in the menu of a game I toggle it on to drop my fps to 60 and keep my computer (and room!) cooler then hit F11 to turn it off for high frame rate. It’s been flawless too.
Gabe M. You stole my name
@@gabrielm.942 who’s to say you didn’t steal mine
@@gabem.5691 easy, I’m amazing so it was obviously you who stole my name
As a Linux user, I love AMD GPUs (and AMD CPUs, come to think of it).
Exactly, for a Linux person especially AMD is the only choice.
I used an RX 570 for quite a few years and was really happy with it. The drivers weren't too bad. I upgraded to a 1660 super for a couple of years after and was happy with that one too. Now I'm upgrading to an RX 6700 XT. I got it for cheaper than a 3060 so I'm really not fussed about any issues that might come up. So long as it works! (It's an ex-mining card so fingers crossed!)
I never experience any driver issues with my RX470. Even if there were any I I probably didn't affect my gaming experience (for the games I play). And I only update my drivers if the Windows update pops up or the Radeon utility asks me to.
How did it go? Any issues so far?
@@razor8704 there would be none 570s are great and optimum driver wise
I'm the opposite. Bought the 5700xt in 2019 and sold it last week for a 3070. I had only good things to say about my 5700xt Nitro Plus. In fact, it is by far the best GPU I ever had, and I was switching between AMD and NVIDIA in the past as well. But I had to move on from it because the demand on our area is so high, I can sell it for exactly the same amount I paid in 2019.
I went 3070 because RTX and DLSS just won me over, and it is indeed magic when games properly support it. RDR2 feels like a twitch shooter at high refresh rates now, and Control is simply stunning with all RTX effects turned on.
But hands down, the thing I immediately miss from AMD is their control panel. It is just miles better than NVIDIA. I can record my game footage, create undervolt curves for my card, adjust my fan curves, and a lot more compared to Geforce Experience.
DLSS, RTX features and actual real world work software (image, video edit) works with Nvidia..
newest AMD GPU just crashes.
I also sold my Vega 56 because of the high demand, I sold it for twice as much as what I bought it for... The reason I bought an RTX 3070 is because even an RX 6700 XT was more expensive, let alone RX 6800 which would be more comparable. I also miss the AMD Control Panel, but I'm getting used to the Geforce Experience, it feels kinda bloatwareish due to its size but some features are cool, also the driver updates seem to come much more often than AMD. And yeah, DLSS is miles better than FSR, hopefully more and more games will support it.
@@MrJonas7 Same! The 6700XT is also pricier than the 3070 in our area so choosing the 3070 was a no-brainer for me.
I am now used to overclocking through the MSI afterburner and the NVIDIA control panel isn't much of an issue now. But what makes me extremely happy though is that GTA V doesn't have random GPU usage drops at night with the 3070 now.
And more importantly, I can still access both FSR and DLSS so it's a win-win purchase.
@@MrSiloterio Yep, I'm also pretty happy with my purchase. The 8GB of VRAM sometimes worries me tho.
@@MrJonas7 yes, I am aware of that as well. But my plan is to dispose of this card when the new 4000 series comes out. With the high demand, I can resell my 3070 on a much higher cost next year.
Great job man! Keep going with this good job. The part that you buy your things was very important to me to hear, that means that you're not telling whatever the manufacturer wants you to tell just to repay the gift card, this makes a great difference when receiving these feedback.
Returning to this video on Sep 25th, after everything we have heard about the rtx 4000 series and nvidia treatment of EVGA and other board partners I think I’m more excited about AMDs next gpus than nvidia’s, I have a 3080 now but I think I might switch with my next purchase, of course it is a couple years down the road but who knows if Nvidia will get their act together
I just bought my first AMD vid casd in over 15 yrs and i'm confident I made the right decision.
I also have 3080 and waiting for amd to answer
Got a 3080 Strix here, paid £1200 last year and in many years to come when it dies my next one will be AMD ;)
Thanks for being so objective! Great video all around! Got a 6800 sold it for a 6700xt as I don't need the power and am very happy with it! The greatest thing about AMD is that they provide open source drivers on Linux, which I run daily, so that's just been a blast! I have a Nvidia in my laptop and their driver on Linux just sucks...
AMD has got their stuff together, RDNA and Ryzen are HUGE... can't wait to upgrade my 3700x to a 5800x 3d... just patiently waiting.
i was thinking of upgrading my 3900x to a 5900x but the increase gains in performance just don't justify the $550 price tag for me
@@tw1tch09 true but you get more cores on a single die. You can sell that 3900x too afterwards. Future rn seems more cores=more fps
@@tw1tch09 one can always sell the old one, like I did...all mobos don't support 5900X.
I went from a 3900x to a 5800x, good boost in performance. Admittedly cant stream as well on one system so, I put the old chip in a stream rig
Went from a 3600 to 5800x and I love it. Price matched Best Buy with micro center for $370.
My 6700xt is great for 1440p. I also have 2 3070's and they are also very good at 1440p. I set all my games to max settings and all 3 cards run about the same fps around 80-120 fps.. All my machines are on air cooling and the temps are very similar in all. Usually mid 60c's under load.
Should i buy 6800xt instead of 3070
I'm getting both at same price
Even the rx6600 handles 1440p no worries. Cheers
I was thinking the same i am between 3038 and 6850 M XT I don't know what to choose..
My 3070 broke, they sent a replacement back, I sold it for $2000 aud and then bought a 6900xt for $200 aud more - I haven't missed rtx/dlss and teamed with a 5800x it is an awesome combination at 4k - the amd software is improving. The 6900xt was $1200 aud less than a 3090. I've also had more issues with nvidia gpu's breaking after 2-3 years (I don't overclock)... Even with a 3070 I disabled raytracing as it's a waste of time.
got my 6900xt at 1400USD when 3090 is easily over 2700USD, why pay double for same raster perf at uwqhd?
@@ghostedragon964 Its funny how pricing changes from region to region, here a 3080 is cheaper than a 6800XT, which almost cost as much as a 3080Ti.
Can confirm that 6900xt is within or below the 3080 price bracket in india.
@@chrissmith6653 pricing by region has been pretty wild. It really messes with my mind when I hear about a lot of it.
@@ghostedragon964 Man you're so lucky in my country RX6900xt price is about $1950-2800 depend on it's brand and Rtx3080ti is about $2100-2900.
If 6900xt price is only $1500 I'll buy it for sure. I will sold my 3080 since it price is around $1500 now, and I bought it when it price still $990
This could be the most unbias, REAL review I have seen for anything. All your points were thought out like an actual end user. All the issues you experienced were explained clearly and not too much tech jargon. It was as if I experienced that gpu myself. Great job!
well bcs im not qualified to be a tech master or anything near that
Have bounced between AMD and Nvidia over the years in GPUs many times, and Intel and AMD in CPUs. Get what fits your performance for the price for your needs. Either are always fine. Even when one is "better" it's not like night and day.
For steaming (not RUclips or productivity you just shouldn’t get an Amd gpu) real time nvenc is so much better. And this is coming from someone who prefers Amd gpus
Crazy that this is even a valid topic for a whole video. I had Nvidia for over a decade. Went 6900XT back when they launched ($1200, same price I had sold my 2080Ti for). I used logic for my decision instead of acting like a fanboi.
Works great, and I don't miss Nvidia.
What logic was that.?
@@Lilkuro777 he got a free upgrade. Are you ok?
Currently eyeing an xfx 6900 xx black but not sure if worth 1700 pre tax. Any regret or thoughts?
@@Septix this feels weird to say, bit if you can afford it and you NEED a gpu, don't feel bad if you are forced to overspend.
@@Septix meh... Idk. Try and snag one for MSRP
That’s OBS software issues, I have a Asus strix 3080 so I can confirm that’s not a amd issue.
I've built my pc last week due to your recommendations. I really like your genuine style of telling what you experienced, no bs really onto point which we all wanted. Thanks Daniel, hope you get bigger, you really deserve it with the distinctive content you have.
amd gpu ? do u regret ?
i am fine with my rx 6700 xt, cant say i didnt had any issue other than some wattman errors( it happened twice i think) but it is ok for its price.
@@equilibriumv regret yes / no ?
not at all, loved it
@@equilibriumv ty my g ,, m stil scared of buying 6600 :((
Welcome to team red. My entire PC is AMD and I have been using AMD GPU's for years and years all the way back to the days of the ATI Rage series. I have an RX 6800 XT myself and I couldn't be happier. I run 1440P 144hz.
Thank you for sharing, do you hold a 144hz 1440p? What about the 99%, 1% lows? I'm hoping the 4070 ti or 7800xt or something will be able to hold a stable 144hz at 1440p.
@@Lena-vw6ye it probably will
@@Lena-vw6ye 1% lows matters not if you constantly try to push the GPU on 100% load trying to do 320fps constantly with vsync off and way above a 60hz monitor...
Nvidia control panel is stupid to navigate and GeForce Experience is a bigger drain on resources. since people turn to MSI afterburner for tuning.
Also 144hz and a constant 144fps on desktop isn't always stable on the OS, some software really doesn't seem to like high refresh rates in general, outside of games.
You are running 1440 at 144hz? L O L
I HAVE A 2080ti and am running 1440 at 165hz with everything on ultra. No comparison between nvidia and amd. Let's look at it like cars. "For the money" Kia is better than Mercedes but for those that want better they pay for the Mercedes. The only people talking about how Kia is better deal for the money are those that cannot afford the Mercedes. AMD is the kia.
@@WizeguyGaming No one is talking about affordability.
From some tests I gathered that AMDs H.265 encoder is actually better than Nvidias. Can't use it for livestreaming, sadly (RUclips works I believe), but it could be used to record game footage at a better size/quality coefficient. Might be worth a try.
Why can't they do the same same for the more widely used H.264 format!
It's not like they're poor now, they're earning ridiculous amounts of money currently on both CPU and GPUs.
@@makisekurisu4674 they had to pay off massive dept first and it takes a while to develop such things.
To be fair they are probably racing for the AV1 hardware encoder, instead of trying to win a lost game with h264.
im so glad that i waited this long, just now ordered 6800xt for 779$ now watching every 6800xt video on youtube before i get hands on it lol
@Daniel Owen great video, it's good to see an honest review :)
Don't know if anyone else mentioned it, but you may not need to reboot the PC if you get the black screen/driver crash - you can reset the display driver by pressing Win+Ctrl+Shift+B on the keyboard. I had to do this a few times with a 5700XT.
Anyway, I just sub'd, looking forward to watching more of your content!
The GPUs I had and enjoyed at most were RX470 and RX580. I really loved that experience with AMD. Recently I upgraded to a RTX 3060Ti. Oh man, I hate GeForce Experience. I miss the Adrenalin software, I miss AMD Link. If the RX 6700xt were available for a similar price when I bought the 3060Ti, I would probably have gone with AMD instead
I was tending between a 6700XT and 3060TI 2 at nearly the same price point, finally went with the 6700XT after a hard time of deciding, guess it were the 12 Gigs of VRAM that made me decide in this way...But yeah, u cant do anything wrong with the 3060TI, best product in the 3000-line in terms of PP
I had a rx 580.. Just upgraded due to availability to a 3070. I. Hate. It. So. Much. :( i miss adrenaline.
AMD software is the best. More modern looking and feature rich. NVIDIA just looks dated.
Have to say that I fell a lil bit in love with Adrenaline 2, now also using Radeon Software and Ryzen Master instead of Afterburner and Rivatuner / HWInfo
I bought an RX 6700XT (new) for $485,- ! And I'm so happy with it ! 12GB of Vram, perfect for my X-Plane flight sim ! Before I had an RTX 2070 super, and all I got, was stutters every 2 seconds ! *So proud to DUMP that Nvidia crap ! My RX 6700XT is running sooooooo much smoother and faster !* Never seen ANY stutter again ! #Radeon4life
Can't wait to buy an Radeon DNA-3 GPU !
I will for sure consider AMD GPU when I can afford to upgrade, but I'm a Linux user, which means I get way better drivers with AMD than Nvidia GPU's because AMD's drivers are open-source, while Nvidia is closed-source and sucks at Linux
with Nvidia on Linux, gaming basically sucks, but with AMD, it's awesome and more games can run properly without issues
sure, on Linux, I might not get RT or upscaling yet (haven't really tried with my RTX 2070S), but kinda as you said, it's not really worth to care about it, except upscaling when it's actually required to get a usable FPS, but I do not play heavy games anymore, so it doesn't matter at all for me
Plus open-gl drivers were cleaned up big time and saw very nice gains on 22.7.1
I went from Linux to hackintosh and I was forced to go to AMD for that reason.
@@brpadington forced because they support Linux better than Nvidia ever will. AMD drivers have come a long way and are much improved overall.
@@DKTD23 They have definitely gotten better. The issue i constantly run into is with older software getting terrible framerates since the card never gets out of idle. There are ways around it but it's an issue i never had with Nvidia.
My first build and like you said I would have went with a 3080 because of what I heard but after alot of research I got 6800xt along with a 5600x. Absolutely love it. Having smart access memory is a plus as well
I had a 3070 but got buyer remorse because i wanted a 3080, but then i sold it and got a 6900xt and feel premium 😎
The 6900xt is actually cheape than 3070 in this crazy GPU market
I wanted a 3070 ended with a 3080 tuf oc non lhr so basically the opposite how’s the 6900xt
@@jamep2765 it's good, but driver time outs and crashes are common :(
I wanted a 3070 but also ended up with a 6900xt, really happy with it. Pretty surprised about the driver issues, I haven't had any issues at all and overall find the software much better to use (I never bothered with the Nvidia software with my 2070s but adrenaline feels so light weight).
@@jayb88887 i have driver issues with bfv constant crash
Thanks for a real take, instead of a hot one. I’ve been all AMD for a couple years now. AMD hasn’t had “those driver issues” since the 5700xt dropped. Some people just like to only know the information that makes their opinion valid, no matter how outdated it is.
For me, The only real advantage Nvidia has now is raytracing. My processor handles any streaming/recording encoding I need pretty well. AMD released FSR 2.0 a couple weeks ago. I don’t have any experience with DLSS 2.0, but this new FSR is definitely a game changer for us.
I just got a 6900xt at retail today. And I’m perusing recent gpu vids to get reacquainted with the performance I’ll soon be moving to.
BS i have a 6700XT Hell Hound edition and off of factort reset the VRAM idles at 1990MHz. Even with drivers updated, windows updated, nothing else installed it still idles there. AMD has even acknowledged the issue stating they don't know why these issues are happening
I have a MERC 319 6900XT and a 3080 12GB. I'm seeing better min FPS and at least 40 watts less power consumed on that card vs the 3080 12gb. Smart Access Memory is working better on 6900XT with my 5800X3D CPU.
@@MustExecute they'lll figure it out eventually. That sounds like power tables to me, but AMD is like a fine wine, eventually it will get pushed in an update.
@@DKTD23 I've been an AMD fan since day one but because of this high vram idle I'm unable to run games at high settings. Escape from tarkov is virtually unplayable now. Their "solution" on their forum page is drop your refresh rate on your monitors....which also doesn't work.
I had a 5600 XT with constant crashes, even after flashing a newer vBios. Unfortunate, but a friend sold me an "old" 1080 Ti for 100€ right before the massive price increases, so for now I'm set. But in the future I will absolutely go back to AMD, I don't want to support Nvidia and I hate how limited and ugly their control panel is, let alone the need to use GeForce Experience for driver updates..
I have built several low to mid series 30 builds for people, but the ones I made with the 6700,6800 and 6900s all seemed to perform better every time.
steam charts say 3090 sold better than even 6500XT, there is a good reason. and why is this guy promoting AMD on his own channel.. AMD must be fucked so hard
I got a 6700xt. It works and performs well. When the next AMD gpus launch I'm gonna try to get one. I really like the software too. I play in 1440p and I personally do not care about ray tracing at all. This is my first AMD card.
Whats the most demanding game you play with it and do you get 60fps on that demanding game? Thinking of getting that card since I found a deal on it.
@@Xilent1 I just ran a benchmark for cyberpunk
Average fps is 97
Min is 69
Max is 143
2560 by 1440 is my resolution
I have v synch and FSR on
I'm playing medium settings with things such as shadows and fog turned down to low and medium.
Benchmark for high settings with FSR on is 69 average. Min 48.45 Max 92.23
I hope this helps I have the Gigabyte version. It works pretty damn well for 1440p if you realize it can't run everything at high in 60fps but it's good enough for me
@@smoothestofbrainsi have 4K TV, but it does 1440p 120hz VRR/Freesync All I want is at least 1440p/60+ no RT. I would cut off v-sync and fsr and turn up graphics to high. I should still good over 60fps average anyway. Thanks again for your info and help bro. Happy gaming
@@Xilent1 it's pretty game dependent. Like Apex legends max settings for graphics something like cyberpunk you gotta make adjustments. I would recommend a 6800 series card if you can find one but if not the 6700xt isn't terrible. From leaks I heard the next series is supposed to be 1.5-2x the performance of the 6000 series but who knows if that's true. I can test Elden ring when I get home from work if I remember.
@@smoothestofbrains I agree with the Apex and Cyberpunk comment. I thought about the 6800xt for my monitor/TV. Of course, price isn't what I'm comfortable with, though cheaper than the 3080. Yeah, I heard the same about the 7000 Series as well as some big numbers for the 40 Series. Stock to the side, the prices may still be HIGH, so I may should wait for those OFFICIAL numbers come out for those series. Elden Ring is having stutters on every CPU/GPU for now. Even the 5950x stutters. They need a patch soon. Hope you enjoy the game either way. bro.
I bought a Sapphire Nitro+ 480 8GB for £250 not long after they came out, before all this madness! I recently updated to a 1440p monitor. It's been an excellent card, and has performed surprisingly well at 1440p. I imagined I would have to but another card but it's been great. I liked this video for it's honest appraisal and valid info. If you're a gamer and you have heavily favoured titles it's worth seeing which company is sponsoring those titles, as their software affects performance on those titles. This is more noticeable lately with RT being a feature of course.
Went from a 470 to a 580 (second hand), then 2 years ago got a 5700xt. Doubled my FPS, and made competitive titles fantastic. Recently went to a 3080, and once again, doubled my fps....it all takes time!
@@keith1034for me i came from a 1050ti then to the 3060 then to a 6800, all jump was awesome
@@narottamakarunanidhi1731i just switched from a geforce 1060 6gb to a rx 7900 xtx sapphire nitro+ and damn those are 2 different worlds 😂
Dude your footage is crisp AF. I'm thoroughly impressed. Also, I definitely have to agree with everything you've said. Hopefully the OBS issue gets fixed sooner than later lol.
Use the HEVC output format in Radeon Software, you need to get an extension for it Microsoft made in the MStore, since by default you can't view those file types. It provides lower file size and better image quality then normal so it will get closer to NVIDIA
Does AMD provide a "NVENC h265 equivalent" dedicated chip? NO , but WHY??? Why the hell AMD humiliate screen recording, streaming, encoding and decoding, why AMD's hardware encoding VCE sucks?? Just why? Premiere pro, Handbrake, OBS are performing good using NVIDIA cards because of NVENC chip. Go to hell AMD.
I have heard this just now, although doesn't VLC have the HEVC codec up and running for free?
@@Almighty_Flat_Earth if you read up on HEVC, you would know that is a H.265 encoder.
@@Almighty_Flat_Earth actually. AMD has the better h265 encoding whereas nvidia has the better h264 encoding. The only problem is that h264 is used in a lot more places compared to h265
@@Almighty_Flat_Earth bruh, you commented the same crap on my comment in HUB’s video and I already countered your points
I did buy the XFX Merc 319 Speedster 6900xt black edition limited....back in days and these driver timouts were a nightmare for me. Every friend which had 6800xt didn't have this issue, after some research you can see on official AMD Forum that problem persists with the 6900xt series - mainly and didn't go away, it went worse. I ended up giving up on AMD like some other users did in the thread. To mention the thread im talking about was I believe years old and not a single support answer/help..... I am using 4070 ti yet, everything is fine and most importantly im happy to play games without grey screen, driver crashes....
Bro I have a doubt is there any difference in image quality comparing Nvidia and amd or both r same?
@@sajithsaji3606 Image quality depends on your in game settings and your monitor technology. That being said as long as your gpu has enough power, both AMD and Nvidia can deliver same quality.
Beside of that if you are interested in using Ray Tracing or Path Tracing, Nvidia is ahead and delivers better performance. If you are streamer, you also profit with Nvidia, not only because of Nvidia Broadcast, also Nvidia started collab with OBS and Twitch, the beta is starting soon and allows delivering better quality.
Some people are using Vtubing or Ai Voice Changer, if you like things like that, Nvidia is again the choice you should go.
But if you say I don't need none of these, then probably AMD is best way to go. Also to mention Nvidia started developing Nvidia Ace ft. Convai, what that is you can search on RUclips. Some friends of mine sees me as AMD hater, but I am not, for my personal needs, Nvidia just fits better. This one experience with my 6900xt should not represent the general performance of AMD. I just didn't risk second time and just grabbed Nvidia again - I am happy now...
IMPORTANT: OBS just got an update to support RUclips streaming with a native integration: bitrate 50.000 and transcode always available, goodbye Twitch as far as I'm concerned. And for AMD cards that means not suffering the encoder penalty anymore :)
That’s dope. I might give OBS a go again
And if people dont have good upload speed?On Nvidia cards people Can stream on youtube wirh h265 encoder wirh less,half bitrate and super quality on hls protocol.But AMD h265 not work for stream.AMD encoder trash.I never again buy AMD GPU.
That is interesting, thanks for this.
Obs still encodes your stream. How do you think it adds overlays and facecam n shit
@@colonelangus7535 OBS does not encode, an encoder does (which OBS is not) such as NVENC and x264, you as a user can choose the encoder that OBS calls.
I bought a Gigabyte 6800 XT Gaming OC and I'm very happy with it.
I was going to get that exact same one but then found an OG reference 6800 XT for $330 less. I didn't think that I'd ever get an original but I got damn lucky! LOL
@@AvroBellow Best Buy had it last night for $1319.99.
$539 for 6800XT on Newegg right now. I'm glad I was patient enough to wait for upgrading my GTX1060 for a couple of years.
Thank you for such a detailed explanation of your point of view! I was and still am a value consumer and a casual gamer, which is why I have been using mostly AMD hardware (CPUs and GPUs) for over a decade now with few exceptions.
Currently, I am running 6900 XT, but I've also had 6800 XT, 5700 XT, RX 590, and RX 570 before, and I agree that AMD software suite is fantastic when compared to Nvidia, despite all of the other negatives in AMD drivers.
Just turned on Smart Access Memory and has seen a nice boost in performance. Very happy running All AMD.
Is it worth it for Destiny 2? Or the upcoming Battlefield game? I haven’t tried it yet because I don’t know how to enable it. Kinda scared because it’s my first pc and I barely know what I’m doing. Lol
A year late, just found the channel. I was in a similar situation to you, wanted to buy a 3070, but wasn't going to pay scalpers. In December 2022, prices had come down to close to MSRP so I started shopping. After I saw how the 40 series was turning out, the 4070 was probably not going to be amazing for the price so I started looking at AMD. I picked up a 6750XT and didn't regret it at all. It was a massive upgrade from the GTX 1060. I didn't have any issues, and the AMD software is so far beyond what Nvidia provides. So about a month ago I decided I'll buy a 7900XTX because the 6750XT was amazing. As with the 6750XT, I haven't had any issues with it. I haven't done a whole bunch of recording this year so I'm not sure on the quality, but I'm interested in seeing how AV1 performs.
Overall I've been happy with AMD gpus so far. I can't comment on DLSS vs. FSR because I haven't used DLSS. No matter how good a recording or screen shot, it won't replicate it enough. If you are in the market for a new GPU, do give AMD a look. Give Intel a look as well if you willing to deal with the issues those cards do have. Ultimately don't be a fanboy for any of them, inform yourself and make a decision based on your needs.
With how AMD has been making pretty big leaps in performance with their new GPUs and CPUs (just got a Ryzen 5600x and it's amazing) I have a feeling the next gen GPUs will be more equal to Nvidia's or even better. I have a 2080 S and I barely use RT. I'm curious to see how the next gen GPU's will stack up against each other. I am happy to hear AMD driver/software have gotten a lot better!
There are literally 2 games imo that raytracing looks great....control and cyberpunk....and one of them sux....it's not control hehe but agree it not needed. Dlss is great though especially older hardware and laptops
@@samwallace7341 Never played Control, not my type of game I guess lol. Cyberpunk was a let down for sure but RT does look great in that game. The game is better with mods too lol. DLSS and FSR are both game changers. Love em.
welp.. this did not age well
My Ryzen 5 3600 was such a HUGE step up from my aging i5 processor. It's still working great for me.
@@harshpatil9825 What a load of BS. The 12600K costs more than the 5600X, and the motherboards are certainly more expensive. The gaming performance is similar (see video). I do not call that "dominating" at all. Moreover, the 12600K came out a full year (!) after the 5600X. It is actually disappointing that Alder Lake ISN'T dominating Ryzen 5000. ruclips.net/video/8193LeTgRrQ/видео.html
I'm playing with a 6800xt and its killing it when it come to gaming. Great buy! Oh and I got the Merc 319! ( was playing gears 5 on ultra @ 1440p and was getting 160+ fps)
O have a 6800xt too, i have to say, that is an awesome 1440p card.
if you're gonna be just gaming normally then amd is PERFECT, just lovely, but when it comes to ray tracing, it's just not that fast and if someone's gonna have workstation loads then nvidia's definitely faster because of the amount of support they've gotten from the devs these past few years
Darn the merc design is garbage... nice buy tho
@@justin7143 don't even get me started on the rgb lmao. My pc stays preset on dark mode... meaning no lights whatsoever. And honestly there is no better looking card than the power color special edition. That card is just insane
@@justin7143 also I'm glad more cards are coming liquid cooled. It's great to see the industry progressing.
I've been an Amd user since I bought my first computer in 2008, I've had 8 different AMD GPUs since that time and for me they always delivered untill something like 5 or 6 years after launch. And regarding drivers issues I had really few. Last couple of years I've played many hours online games with friend (I'm usually the only one not using Nvidia) and it was very common for them for the games to crash or have issues I never had. Pretty sure also drivers age really well. I always considered my AMD pc being much more stable than my Intel/Nvidia gaming partners.
But then again I also saw my brother running a 5700xt and having many issues with drivers and crashes.
Now we both run 6700xt and I'm more than happy on every aspect.
can attest to lots of driver/crashing issues on rx5700xt, hoping the 6700 I just bought is a smoother experience because performance has been great otherwise.
@@chrismorgan7020 how has the 6700 been so far?
I’m actually pretty impressed how well my 5700XT still does and stacks up to its contemporaries. There have been some weird quirks like intermittent black screens but that is easily fixed by switching to a different refresh rate and back. That’s really been my only issue with it. AMD and Nvidia are both making super solid cards right now… really can’t go wrong with either if you get them for the right price.
Mine always seems unstable stock. It works then after like 6 hours it just crash.
Would you say Linux has a higher frame rate with AMD cards than Windows?
Sold my 2070 Super, bought a 6800 XT and im happy with it. Performance on mass. Not missing DLSS. Drivers stable for me. Software seems also to be better.
Owner of an RTX 3080 Ti here and I need to say that the AMD 6900 XT is (despite the capacity in VRAM) pretty much the same. Saw side by Side comparisons and the difference was 4-7 frames. Sometimes with AMD in the lead and sometime with Nivida in the lead.
*A M D C A R D A R E N O T B A D C A R D S*
Anyone who says they are is wrong.
My first AMD experience was with a Sapphire 6800 XT from Newegg, I live in the middle east and the warranty support was extremely bad.
The card worked fine for around 3 months April - June 2021, after that I started experiencing Black screens / Green screens in games, then started to experience it in desktop, and finally I couldn't even use my PC, a lot of people online had the same issue, My card was almost bricked, it wouldn't display anything, good thing I had an EVGA 3080 FTW Ultra to use on the side, for some time I had the 2 GPU's on 1 PC Mining while I wasn't gaming, the 6800 XT Mines perfectly but wouldn't render out anything at all, finally I swapped it with a new 3070ti from a miner after telling him the issue and he was okay with it, good thing I got rid of that trash.
@@7amoodxalmarri You haven't listed any warranty related experience at all, but that would be through sapphire and not AMD anyways
@@Rspsand07 I tried, they said talk to newegg since i bought it there, newegg told me to contact sapphire for rma process :/
The Ti stands for tiny improvement on these gpus.. 6900xt is a better option. But Rtx still better in ray tracing
@@7amoodxalmarri that's just a bad card a problem of sapphire not AMD
I built my first PC when AMD announced their new ryzen CPU's, so after DYOR i decided to go full AMD: Ryzen 5 3600 and Sapphire Pulse RX 5600 XT OC. After a year I'm glad with my built and it runs the games I play like a charm. Will prob update again with AMD in the future.
I've used AMD GPUs for the last 5 years,ever since I got a hd 7970.
I’m running a 6800xt since february ‘21 and so far the only real issue (gaming side) i have experienced is that temperatures are a little too high even with fans runnnig 100% (80º to 84º celsius) on high load. Except that it’s an amazing card for gaming, even more with an AMD CPU and a MoBo that can enable Smart Access Memory, I run Warzone 4K ultra settings getting 120+ FPS avarege. Anyway nice vid, You have found yourself a new subscriber!
80-84 is low, AMD considers 100-104 to be normal while 110 is max
In my experience, those black screens are caused by the card trying to draw more power than the power limit. Increasing the power limit in AMD software resolved the issue for me. If the card is overclocked, back off the overclock a bit and/or increase core voltage and power limit.
What have you found the best results with in their software tuning wise? I.e. overclock, undervolt, overclock vram etc.
I've been playing around with settings and noticed mining wise the vram boost helped alot
It really depends on the card. For mining, some cards like the Rx 500 series need to be set into compute mode within amd software, and playing with memory timings can also increase hashrate. There is no perfect setting that everyone can use, you just need to feel your card out and see what works for you.
I seen how strong rasterization performance was for AMD compared to Nvidia and that alone was enough for me. Fk everything else lol
Unfortunately thats only a 6800 to 6900 XT thing and at 1080p and 1440p not 4K(tho i personally think chasing 4K is kinda not worth it). The 6700 XT and 6600 XT are just significantly slower at rasterization than their 3070 and 3060 ti counter parts.
@@Angel7black whattt?! 6700 xt is fighting 3070 in raster LOLLLL
@@GhettoPCbuilds no... like 10% slower. It's a 3060ti competitor check tech power up
@@patrickleeastarjohnson2918 Nvidia gave people a card that “competes” with a 6700 in raster but ONLY IN NVIDIA OPTIMIZED TITLES LOLLLL get outta here. 8gb of memory only, total sham. Here’s something recent you can compare to. ruclips.net/video/-LRSC9rje30/видео.html
i have seen you some 5-6 videos and you made my thoughts very clear.. when it comes to budget while buying... thanks
More people need to see this video.
I owned almost every single RTX 3000 GPU as well as every Radeon 6000 GPU except the 6600XT and 6700XT. Ended up keeping the 6900XT after testing all cards.
@Stephan had the 3080 Ti which performs about equal to the 3090.
@Stephan initially I didn’t. I just wanted the fastest card for the games I personally play. And after a lot of testing that was the 6900XT. Being the cheaper, more power efficient and therefore quieter card was a nice bonus.
Same here.
I went 3090.
Then 6900 XT.
Then 6800 XT.
Then 3080 ti.
And I'm on 6900 XT in the end.
Literally same, better, or within 3% of performance in the games that I play compared to 3090.
Less power draw.
Less heat.
More quiet.
I don't do DLSS or ray tracing. Doesn't help me with anything at all.
The only negative I have is its annoying to get Valve Index VR going on AMD.
3440x1440.
It's quite different seeing my old high school teacher being on a RUclips channel!
Either way, I've thought from launch that Ray Tracing wasn't a necessary feature currently as it just isn't worth the cost currently (monetary and drawbacks that come with getting the GPU and running RTX). I'm still running my 1070ti and waiting to upgrade, but I am seriously considering AMD cards now.
Sidenote: have you heard/read anything about the GTX soldering issues that's been causing bricked GPUs on games like New World?
I've heard a little about it. From what I recall it seems to effect multiple brands and I think there was another game that was doing it too? It seems to be a goof on nvidia's engineering side. It would make me hesitant to buy a 30 series card. Honestly the lack of ram is an issue for me too. Lack of ram is an issue I have with my GTX970 and I would rather not have that problem again.
I have a 2070 super, and tbh, Ray tracing I can take it or leave it. I will be seriously considering an AMD switch on the 7xxx series, whenever it's released.
I'm a bit of an Nvidia fan myself but the past few years have been missed out because of pricing. I've been stuck at the GTX 1070. I ordered an RX 6700XT last night. Even at $1000, the Nvidia competition was $300 more. That's for a 3070. So, for now, looks like I'm team Red. lol
AMD driver issues are mostly non existent, but they are there, and for some games they are literally game breaking. I literally cannot play Battlefield 1, due to driver issues. I got an rx 5700 btw.
What's this? A balanced take, on RUclips? Don't you know how the algorithm works? :p
Just kidding dude, I appreciate the objectivity. I was kinda in the same boat as you but went Team Green this time around. Have a sub, you deserve many more.
Thanks for the review, it’s great to see a review after the original release showing the aging of the tech and how it compares now with driver updates and etc.
First time I've ever seen a video from you. You are a natural, keep up the great content
I've had all AMD builds since Ryzen came out and just built a new all AMD PC and it's awesome. I can monitor and manage the hardware, overclock and install drivers all in the same app.
Is there a real benefit from going with an AMD GPU if using an AMD CPU??? I've searched and never really found a real answer either way...I'm really curious about this
There's smart access memory if you use both processors from AMD.
I'd love to see a review with a full AMD build, with FSR being integrated into more games, I think the FSR + SAM combo would give you so much more performance. More power to your channel man! 🙌🙌
5600x paired with a 6700xt, minimal uplift, but does run super smooth.
I had nothing but good to say about my rx5700 and honestly just got an rx6800 this past weekend and im in love
Bro I have a doubt how is AMD drivers nowadays bro any issues ? Any stutter issues? Any black screen issues? Please share your experience
To me the thing has always been cost to frame ratio. AMD, at least for the most part, has always been where the value is. At least from my perspective, they are taking less "advantage" of me and my dollar. Obviously, Nvidia makes great products, but charging me crazy prices to boot.
Ive actually been saying this for years now. I actually moved to AMD when my son worked for them and i wont lie i got some great free things. That said, ive stayed with AMD on the last 3 builds because of price per performance. Nvidia nowadays is at least 100 more than the comparable AMD card(sometimes a lot more) for literally single digit gains in fps on average.
@@kahrhoshe absolutely. There is virtually, at least in my mind, no reason to stay Intel unless you are fanboying hard. Price per dollar, it can't be beat.
AMD and before them ATI have always been competitive and offered more for the money but nvidia knows how to market and manipulate the consumer and so have always had their large dedicated base of fanboys.
But and isn't really that much cheaper, well at least in Canada
@@bubbles1525_ AMD, here in the states, has always been much cheaper. Even on the high-side of things. Really though, cheaper is cheaper. Doesn't matter if it's $1 or $100, if I can get roughly the same performance across the board with a cheaper AMD build... why wouldn't I?
Companies can be good or bad when they illegally stifle competition. I'm happy to give my money to AMD because of nvidia and Intel having such ethically questionable histories
I guess the 6500xt just caused AMD to be apart of your list now huh? :P
@@Ferengi4 They are a corporation too, so you can't trust them like you trust a close friend. But I guess it makes sense that people want NVIDIA lose market share to AMD, Intel (or whoever wants to enter the GPU space) - we all know the dangers of monopoly.
@@Ferengi4 it was mostly a card to be "available" its crap for mining but sadly crap for gaming too. It is however the only card closest to msrp while also somewhat cheap. I think AMD just tried to pull something off to save "gamers" but failed.
@Anarchy intel has chipsets too though? Also with amd you could use a single chipset (b450) for a very long time. I don't know what you mean by "no issues" or "comparable with windows" both intel and amd work well.
@@Ferengi4 a model being released that isn't great but isn't screwing people over... how is that so bad?
The things that anger are when they illegally stifle their competition, steal tech, or use frivolous lawsuits to screw smaller competitors, or intentionally slow down innovation because they have control of the market. Intel and nvidia have both been found guilty repeatedly of illegal monopoly behavior and a lot of other nasty illegal business practices. I'd much rather give my money to the underdog that has been constantly pushing advancements for the last 2 decades.
AMD doesnt have driver issues anymore. Couldnt be happier with my 5800x/6800xt combo exceptgpu is not a 6900xt. But do consider watercooling, Ryzen and RDNA responds real good to that.
What ive seen time and time again, the color compression on nvidia gpus is way worse then on amd. I upgraded back in 2017 from an r9 390x to an 1080ti and the first thing i noticed how washed out and less vibrant/detailed the picture looked compared to amd. Many people complained about that, but no one is talking about this issue.
I think thats just an issue with Nvidia cards defaulting to limited color space when using an hdmi cable. Imagine all the people out there that don't realize that their gpu isn't displaying colors correctly.
@@RedEverything I know about that, and ofc changed that too. Still the amd picture looks better. And it's a well known issue.
@@themadnes5413 Glad you brought it out, I haven't seen any reviewers talk about it...a side by side comparison of any amd vs nvidia card (current/previous generations, low-end/high-end card) would reveal this - better/truer colors, sharper images & edges...of course there is more VRAM usage on the Radeon cards...also do not think it is a hdmi vs display port issue these days as I've used both...I've been asked to upgrade to an Nvidia GPU, but still remain in the Radeon camp only because of the visual fidelity that they offer
That sounds weird, Harware unboxed saw no difference in testing. There has to be a difference in the settings somewhere, like defaulting to a lower color gamut or something. This is a comment tTim from HW made I'm quoting here, I'd link to the thread, but youtube deletes comments with outside links these days:
"HardwareUnboxedTim 1622 points 5 months ago*225
Tim here from Hardware Unboxed.
Part of my monitor review workflow involves testing monitors on both Nvidia and AMD GPUs. Two separate test systems, both running default settings in their respective control panels.
Currently the Nvidia system has an RTX 3090 and the AMD system an RX 5700 XT
I've never spotted a difference between them in color reproduction. I've measured it using my tools in the desktop, web browsers, games. Taken side by side photos and captures. Never spotted any differences. They produce identical images.
Because this comes up every so often I did look into it to see if it was worth making a video on but the conclusion was there was no difference so it wasn't worth making a video. Since I can't reproduce it I have to assume it's some sort of configuration issue.
EDIT: Back in the day I used to see this occasionally when Nvidia would accidentally default to the wrong RGB range (limited instead of full) but in this particular case apparently that is not the problem so I don't really know how in this case the difference is happening. And those limited/full range issues were a while ago, would have to be several years now
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@@Eonymia I'd seen that same Hardware Unboxed video myself 🙂...well, you could up the graphical settings in the control panels on both the amd and nvidia cards to the highest quality to remove any differences between the default settings on the cards....But, I always notice amd's higher image fidelity/color reproduction (best examples to observe this would be on foliage, leather, blood and skin tones of the characters in the game)....now, there are many recorded gameplay footages where it would be evident...check out say Fortnite, Witcher 3 or any other newer titles like cyberpunk on youtube side by side
I've been pondering about upgrading my 2070 Super, but next generation. Thanks for taking time sharing your experience with AMD. Already got a good deal on 3700x for my other PC.
I used 2 amd card, rx 570 and rx 580. Both of them died after surviving 1 year, I faced a lot of driver and temperature issue.
After selling those 2 dead card, I got 20bucks.
Then I bought an old gtx 760 2gb only for 35 bucks in 2019 but its rocking still rocking in 2022.
I play valorant, csgo, gta5 online flawlessly. Also Nvidia drivers are quite good. Specially it's low Latency Settings helped me to reach diamond in Valorant..
Truly I am satisfied with this old monster.
I'm not saying that I'm a fan boy or something. But I loved this card so much 💖
Great job I'm overall pleasantly surprised myself when I jumped on my 5700 after over a decade of nvidia from the 460 to the 980ti.
You had a similar upgrade to me then because I got an RX 5700 XT after an R9 Fury. However, that was after over a decade of ATi starting with the HD 4870. LOL
@@AvroBellow Honestly the thing to remember is that after a certain level of GPU performance you are getting basically 100% playable framerates on all titles unless you want the best of the best and got the $$$ to pay for it. Right now theres nothing our current level of performance can't handle well.
Honestly I am surprised with the AMD software. Finally got my card back and it's working, so far its a beast. Especially now that AMD partnered with Microsoft. Wonder if that's going to impact upcoming games in AMD's favor??
Radeon drivers are soooooooooo much better than anything Nvidia can come up with ! ( And i don't give an single f*ck about Gay Tracing ! )
If I could compare Nvidia GPUs to AMD ones in terms of driver issues, it's like comparing a bulletproof Toyota to a Nissan that looks cool in terms of specs but starts having issues after the first year. That sums up why I'll never buy another AMD GPU.
I went with the 6900XT red devil around December 21 and the cheapest I could find it was amazon and both 6800 and 6900 were both $1499 so might as well get the newer one and that red glow is pretty badass and supporting Taiwan directly was a bonus.
ngl that red devil radeon actually looks so badass
I still hear the same stuff about AMD all the time. I won't lie that I wish I could use DLSS in certain games, and I'm hoping that FSR will start supporting a lot more games, but I haven't really had almost any trouble with my 6800. I was hoping for a 6800 XT, but I still never dip below 100 fps in any games at 1440p, and most of the time I'm capped 144, so I'm pretty happy with it overall. I've had the same amount of problems that I would've ran into on Nvidia. And as a plus, I got mine at MSRP, so it's hard to complain with the current market the way that it is lol
DLSS aint that great, coming from a 2060 super user.
I don't like the ghosting and blurryness... and don't snipe in Battelfield or COD with it on... your looking for a small cluster of pixels for headshots... and they get covered up by the sky, because of dlss..
Except in 4k it helps a shitload
If you never dip below 100fps at 1440p, why the hell would you want to use DLSS? DLSS is for low-end cards like the 3050 and 3060 not for mid-high cards like the RX 6800 or RTX 3070.
@@AvroBellow I like extra frames. 100 is nice, but I can tell the difference between that and 144, so I'd like to be getting 144 all the time ideally.
In my experience, AMD GPUs are quite bad for compute. They don't have any CUDA equivalent, and while the drivers are much more open, they don't really offer anything that Nvidia doesn't, unless of course you run a Linux desktop.
In other words: By buying Nvidia you do not miss out on anything. You can run any game out there and perform any task.
By buying AMD you are missing out on all the Nvidia features that they don't support. You CANNOT run many games at their max settings on an AMD card, because they rely on things like RT cores that AMD cards simply do not have.
So, games like Lego Builder's Journey, which rely heavily on the RT cores of Nvidia cards, can never look as good on AMD.
I've played that game in 4K on my laptop - it looks amazing.
With the jump from RDNA 1 to RDNA 2 being that huge, thats alrdy a huge win for AMD. Cant wait to see what AMD brings to the table next year with RDNA3, Im hoping for a lot better ray tracing perf.
Im gonna go from rdna 1 to rdna 3 probably
the jump wasn't that big if you consider the price hike, the msrp i mean. The current prices are lovely compared to nvidia's but im talking about just msrp, and hopefully amd will work on their ray tracing and content creation stuff in the next gen because gaming is pretty damn fine but those just suffer heavily
@@jubayerwasidraiyan5874 Yeah true, I was talking just in terms of performance.
Ray tracing is irrelevant. FSR and DLSS is what matters most.
And don't use historical performance improvements to predict future ones. By that logic AMD would have never had the FX years and Intel would never have had 6th to 10th gen stagnation.
@@rattlehead999 I'm not predicting, I'm hoping. Yes Ray Tracing is irrelevant now with current hardware implementations, which is why I'm hoping an improvement from both Nvidia and AMD to make it more mainstream. No need to get so heated man, all I said was what I'm hoping.
I've only owned AMD cards, while about 3/4ths of the PCs I build for friends have Nvidia. The cost to performance (when prices are normal) is competitive, that's the reason I go AMD, and to me that is the definition of being consumer-forward because I had to vote with my wallet and there's no defense for it if your fps is lower or the game looks like play-doh. Anyway, I've never really had any GPU related issues. X570 and Ryzen voltage issues were a thing, that's been well documented and addressed now though, and the solutions back then werent terribly difficult to figure out. I will say one thing though, i used to be a cutting edge feature guy, i always loved using beta OS builds, preview drivers, and insider exclusive software... yeah, eff all that. I'll sacrifice a proposed +10fps in a new game just to sit on a 6 month old LTS driver, as long as im hitting 75hz vsync with no input lag im golden.
If your youtube channel is doing this good after only a year, you're doing something right. You are doing something right Daniel, well done.
Also, you're a bad dad, good content creator, bad dad ;) 15:19
I've been using my 6700xt since late March and I love it. I've never gamed on and Nvidia GPU, but that's because I've only been able to get my hands on AMD GPUs
I sold my RTX 2070 Super, and bought an RX 6700XT, BEST choice I've ever made !
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 I still want a 3080 for some reason 🤣🤣
Finally someone who is objective about AMD GPUs.
IMHO in games like Metro Exodus Enhanced, the impact of Ray tracing it's significant . For me it's worth it.
And for me the problems with OBS it's gone from from drivers 21.9.2
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I upgraded to a 6600XT after owning an Nvidia GTX1070. My brother upgraded from a GTX1060. We jokingly say that we bought the "worst reviewed card ever" (due to the terrible MSRP, as well as the current GPU market)... However, both of us were really surprised of its performance and we couldn't be happier. The Radeon Software is GREAT. And the performance was shockingly good. The "Ultra"-benchmarks we watched on youtube channels didn't really tell the story of real life performance with optimized settings. In some games I got 200% performance of my previous card. (but most are around 160-180%). And my brother got even more of an upgrade.
Most games we play either don't have RT, or the RT implementation is just waaay too costly performance-wise. The only game I have been really excited about is Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, and it runs great! I run it at 1440p 0.7x Shading rate and 2x VRS. It looks great, looks native. I have 72fps+ with "normal RT". I think people should be less afraid of AMD. Although graphics cards are far from "good value" these days. AMDs makes much more sense due to how expensive nvidia cards generally are. You get much more performance. And both RT and DLSS are way too overhyped in my honest opinion.
6600XT at MSRP was extremely good upgrade for people with a relevant card(at mining) to sell. This was massively missed in all reviews and made people with old cards worth $300-400 not to upgrade to $400 card with double perf because they thought it's not worth of the money. In some cases like upgrading from RX 5600XT would have yielded $200 profit and +35% perf. Just insane opportunities.
@@kognak6640 Yeah, I agree. :) Especially those with RX5000-series cards (on the Swedish market I see 5700XT go for 600$). I wasn't so lucky myself. I got 300$ for my GTX1070. However, I only paid 400$ for it new 5 years ago. So all-in-all, it was a REALLY good value upgrade. the 6600XT upgrade only cost me 150$ total. and I would consider it it a a small sum for the performance improvement, especially with the total lifetime prospect of these two GPUs (7-10 years... as I intend to own the 6600XT at least 2 years-, up to 5 depending on what happens in the market). Sure the 6600XT is semi-expensive if you buy new. But If you can sell an old GPU it can be a real value upgrade. A lot of reviewers missed out on that prospect.
@Kai You are definitely right. I was also in the mindset that I shouldn't upgrade since I was fairly satisfied with the GTX1070. Like many, once the market "went to hell" it left me with a "feeling" that my hobby became unbelievably expensive. However, after a while I realized that the whole situation functioned similarly to reel estate. People are generally afraid to fork out money to buy something (instead of renting) in case they loose money on it. However, in reality, you fork out an initial investment, after that you just follow the market value. If prices go down you buy your next place cheaply, sure you don't get as much for your old, but it doesn't matter. Same thing if prices go up, then your old place has great value.
And this was the case with the upgrade. It's kind of laughable, but l thought my GTX1070 was an expensive card for 400$, 5 years ago. Yet it only lost 1/4 of its value over the course of 5 years. Sure the MSRP of the 6600XT was expensive from a theoretical perspective. but really MSRP doesn't matter in a market like this. I was able to snatch it for MSRP here, and the 150$ difference meant one heck of an upgrade. I would consider 250$ difference would still have been a "healthy upgrade"
Been using a 5700XT for a year now. Had those problems in the beginning until I updated the drivers. After that it has been as reliable as an AK47.
I completly agree. Had mine for 2 years now.
Well not all are lucky like you
plus you can sold it 900$ to a miner at ebay since those cards mine cryptos like hell XD
@@JamesBond-em3uq Nope, many are too stupid to figure out how to fix problems and it's easier for them to say "AMD is junk" instead of admitting to themselves that they don't know what to do when things go wrong. You'll be just as useless when nVidia drivers screw up.
@@AvroBellow and again not all people are lucky like you lol
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ive actually had multiple AMD cards after sticking only to Nvidia for so long (basically a beta tester lol). they're extremely safe to buy now & the 6800 XT is what you need to aim for if you can afford it. basically a 3080/3090 but you're just saving so much money. no driver crashes, or any issues besides stock. mine is undervolted & has a custom fan profile it's always at like 54-64° under full load. That & fsr being open source is even better than the closed ego crap Nvidia deals with. star of approval ⭐
I am on a 6900 XT and I am running it at full load on 80-90°. Is undervolting safe?
What are your ambient temps? And what pc case? Thanks in advance
@@MenWereOnceBoys mine or from the person above
@@unknowndrift4462 There are two factors that if too high can damage a GPU - one is heat and the other is voltage. Undervolting drops voltage and in result heat as well. So it is well below it's safe, stock settings. Lowering voltage too much without dropping frequency accordingly can cause crashes and instability issues but there won't be any hardware damage and radeon software resets those unstable settings on reboot so you can tweak them again. As chips differ in sillicon quality you need to experiment a lot with your card to see what voltage/frequencies values are the most stable for your undervolt as going for someone else's settings they recommend might not work for your own gpu and results can vary from game to game or usecases. For example 6600XT I undervolted by dropping frequency by 300MHz and voltage by 50mV card only lost about 10% performance but hotspot temperatures went down from 95C on full load to around 65C.
@@unknowndrift4462 both haha :) curious
AMD Graphics cards get better with patches, a 6800xt would probably perform really close to a 3090 at this time next year.
Yes imagine spending 3k+ for a 3090 XD
@@neutralguy2428 I had enough trouble with what I paid for my RX 6800 XT (and I got it for $330 less than the cheapest one on newegg!). LOL
i bought rx 6700 (non xt) instead of rtx 3060. Both had same price here and raw power of rx 6700 is better than rtx 3060. I have my worries still because card is not delivered yet. But this video relieved some of that. Hope i will not have any issues or if i have can solve them quickly.
I've used AMD GPUs for like 4-5 years now. The only big issue has been that I wasn't able to play Wolfenstein: The Old blood, but other than that the experience has been really good.
I recently switched to Nvidia though, but only because AMD prices was way more inflated than Nvidia prices where I live.
Excellent content! I wish this video was available earlier since many people who wanted or needed a gpu upgrade such as myself was torn between similar price competitors such as 3070ti instead of 6800xt during the price gouging period. Furthermore, 3070ti on paper/benchmark was slower while the 3080 was extremely more expensive than the 6800xt. Thanks for the video stating the issues because it helps people consider if it really is a big deal.
10:20 I've been getting that on older nVidia GPUs (GTX 770) as well, because I used my motherboard as a passthrough for my Displayport cable. Same thing happens on AMD HD 7950. It could be that Windows itself is at fault here, not the GPU drivers.
I've always been an nVidia user. Like you, I wanted to upgrade to a RTX 3080, but that never worked out. I ended up finding a 6800XT at the current high but retail price and I went for it. It's been a great experience so far. I really like the software suite that allows per game overclocking and undervolting. Playing Cyberpunk 2077 in Linux with Proton-GE (has FSR built in) at Ultra settings and ~100fps is a great experience at my 1600p ultrawide monitor. As to your recording issues, are you using x264? Unless I misunderstood something, AMD is supposed to support H.265/HEVC encoding which should yield superior video and more reasonable file sizes. Might be something worth looking into? Thank you for your video. I've been enjoying your content since I discovered you this year. Keep up the good work, and good luck!
Oh, if you are playing on Linux (Proton-GE) then AMD is a no-brainer. Still cannot run Forza Horizon 4 on my 3060 laptop using Proton, while it runs without any issues on RX6800XT.
FSR patch is phenomenal, and in most cases provides better FSR quality than game developers adding FSR support to the game. I was playing Horizon Zero Dawn on Proton-GE with FSR enabled in 4K and was blown away by the quality. I tried it once more after developers added FSR support there officially, and still prefer Proton's FSR implementation despite interface elements are more blurry there :D
@@snowmean1 you are absolutely right! Though still a niche: not enought tech youtubers point to the exellent Linux support by AMD
Nice to see a fair review. I am very wary of AMD after two rubbish experiences in a row, followed by flawless Nvidia experience.
But good to see things might not be quite so bad now
Fact ........ Radeon software is insanely better !
perfect video, thanksman exactly the info i was looking for
I wanted a 3090 but the price was so ridiculous, I got my hands on a 6900xt red devil ultimate for a reasonable price, I don’t regret it at all 🤷🏻♂️
I am planning to buy that card. It is on stock at 1500 dollars, while the 3090 is at 2400 - 3000 and gets the same performance
@@sr.chi7741 yeah it’s been an awesome card so far, I don’t use ray tracing a lot (just reflections and shadows in cyberpunk and it performs better than I expected) it runs my crazy MC shaders too so I’m happy 😂
@@sr.chi7741 and it’s nice that the software is one application instead of a separate control panel and driver installer, idk why nvidia hasn’t done that yet
@@Adam_Banks Yes, nvidia software looks kinda complex, but I have a vega 8 laptop and the software is very user friendly
@Mat Sci eh don’t care too much for RT, I’d rather trade blows with a 3090 in rasterisation perf