Great idea from Scott Shaver! It’s the 20oz. Bottle vs. the 2 Liter. People paying for the convenience. The built in covers are also a plus. I have some of the bigger bags with the covers and I love them.
Another great video Dan. I did a video using AJ's 1/3 cord bags, and then another showing how well the wood dried. While those larger bags are great for larger quantities, this new smaller bag definitely has a market. I'm finding more and more customers looking for small quantity deliveries... this would be perfect.
Thanks OG! I was thinking about you and if you'd be able to convert your one customer to something like this instead of his covered racks that you refill. I think these bags could be pulled out of the back of a truck by hand...not sure but I'm gonna test that theory here soon. 😀
@@Back40Firewood Based on a quick calculation I'm thinking the bags would weigh around 250-300 lbs. max for dry wood. That could easily be pulled out of a pickup or dump trailer by hand. My airbnb customer wants it stacked in racks for the "look". It's not bad because I can back right up to the racks.
Those are incredibly useful. I've got an Airbnb rental in the mountains of Maine that we have a wood stove in, I'm always hauling up IBC totes from my primary residence and then manually unloading them into a firewood rack at the camp. These will put an end to all of that!
You are so very right Dan. People want smaller Firewood and that Bag is the Solution to it. They could keep it, even on the Outside and Protected from the Elements. I am Cutting some up for my 1hour. Like I said Cut the Rounds 1day and Split the Next. Got between 10 and 15Logs in on Saturday, Oak and Locust, some Cherry. Back at it Finally I hope and not going to over do it. Ron from the Woodyard in Upstate NY.
These are pretty cool, thanks for sharing the new product. For every full IBC tote I bundle, I end up with a 30 or so pieces that are just a little too small, this would be perfect to collect those chunks and sell a larger bag bag of them or like you say wheel them over for my personal burning needs. Have a great Sunday Sir!
Hey Dan We use the log lift bags , they work but keep them out of the sun , ours last 1 1/2 years , your right on those smaller deliveries , customer service is # one and they will pay for it, keep the sawdust flying . Cheers Jeff and Jill
Yep the sun will do that, even if the bags say they won't...lol...this size definitely will open up opportunities for people who find or create the market for them.
I think you will probably make a stand for under the Kindlet to fill them. It would be interesting to see how the small splits would dry in them. Nice demonstration.
Genius. You have shared alot of great info Dan, but this is a great idea for those in Urban areas and cities. Here in Ontario/Canada, you can not have an open fire in your backyard but you can have , in many area, a chiminea or similar receptacle, to enjoy a backyard fire. Like me, most don't want or need a face cord at a time but having a bag like this (9CF) to move around easily makes alot of sense. Those with passive wood stoves may also want smaller quantities, easily moved around, instead of long wood piles on the side of the house. Thanks for sharing! Great product and a great new option for firewood companies trying to serve customers in cities/urban areas. Cheers and Merry Christmas!
Thank you or posting your videos during my "coffee hour". The bags are certainly a good in-between solution, fitting nicely in size between the large "super-sacks" and the smaller bundle wood bags. Someone could even fit 2 or 3 of those in the back of SUV, if needed. Q: Assuming you leave the bag at a customers location, how would a firewood seller arrange for "recycling" the bag? Seems a shame not to get another use out of it, or, just include cost of the bag in the overall fee, if the customer wants to re-use it? Assuming a sall firewood supplier may not have a tractor and forks, I envision a 2x4 rack/frame with hooks, to hold the bag up and open for filling. Maybe a rack on wheels? maybe a rack affixed to the handcart?
I think a deposit would need to be put in place to encourage customers to either return the bags or swap them out when reordering. Exchanging the bags would be easier if you are making the delivery, but if the customer is picking up it might not be as easy to get the bag back...so would either need a deposit of build the cost of the bag into the price of the wood.
That is not just an appealing looking bag the specific size looks to be the ideal size for lack of a better term manageable size can see using those specific bags for delivering larger bulk amounts especially when going some distance from the delivery vehicle not to mention they just look professional
The more I see you and several other channels I watch, the focus seems to be service outside of just splitting and delivery..... are those bags re-usable.....?
Yes the bags are reusable. I think the more you can add to your service the more $$$ you can make. There's a market for all kinds of firewood services.
Dan,every thing changes in any business and like you said customers want what they want and you better be able to change the way you do things or you might lose that customer 👍😮😊❤
Yes they are....they are Well Lamont Cold Weather latex coated gloves. I picked them up at Farm & Fleet here locally. Not sure if they are available online or not.
Have a couple questions what's that bag weight when it's full? What's the cost of that bag? When you deliver that bag do you leave the bag and if you do do you charge them for the bag? Those just a few questions I have I have more but this'll do for now! Lol have a great day!
Weight is going to depend on how seasoned the wood is. Green or wet wood weighs a lot more than dry seasoned wood. Charging the customer for the Barrow Bag depends on how you run your business model. You could add the cost on to the wood price or you could treat it as a deposit system, extra money up front and then when they return the bag they get a money back. - How much you say… For more information and to get yourself some Firewood Barrow Bags contact Shaver Sales Inc, additional details on how to contact Mr. Shaver in the description of this video. Hope this helps, have a great day Around the Yard.
@@AroundTheYard-MN first off let me say I sent this to back 40 because he's the one using the bags so the questions I were asking was for him not for some random person out there to give me some answers that I could make up myself! I have specific questions because he uses the bags therefore he should be able to give me the Pacific answers I asked for I didn't want random answers I could have went to shaver and and done that that's no big deal but he's using them he should have the answers! So thank you for trying but it wasn't a very good try!
About the same as what AroundTheYard said...weight will depend on what type of wood and how dry it is. If I were to do this I would have a deposit for the bag and then when customer reordered swap out the bags. Pricing for bags is on Shaver's website that is linked in video description, think for 20 bags price is between $8-$9 each. And you could do both....either leave the bag, or dump the bag out at the customer's place.
I think your realy on to something Dan the bag is the right size for people with fireplaces,saunas,fire pits,table top stoves, smokers pizza ovens and its the size, enough for a bunck of fires bot to much to store😅😂🎉❤😮
According to the Shaver website these are 9 cubic feet capacity. Certainly an interesting idea. The cost of the bags would have to be factored into the price as that is not an insignificant amount.
I'm thinking some sort of deposit on the bag and then set up the potential for reordering and just swapping out of the bags when you take the next one.
The sauna has a lock from the outside, interesting. If I were LBM I would lock you guys up (only for a while of course) and asking for extra 'Sunday money' haha
lol...yep I think that's to keep the wind from blowing the door open when not in use and I don't think it's heavy duty enough to keep this Wood Hound locked up...hahaha
Thank you for sharing and thinking outside the cord! I'm seeing an opportunity for smoking wood chunks, gonna have to check these out. Playing around with youtube, what editing software are you using, good for newbs, etc? Thank you for any input.
Smoker chunks would work great in these bags, for sure! I use Final Cut Pro, but iMovie works great as well. But those are for Apple/Macs....not sure for PCs what is good. There's a bunch out there if you search for them and if you're not doing anything too fancy almost all of them will do what you need.
That bag looks to solve some problems for wood distribution. Cost and deposit fee to customers may be a problem. Cost per bag is key. You can’t afford to give them away. I think it’s a great idea, customer don’t even have to have a rack. Interesting. They must be a least 10-12 dollars a piece.
It might be helpful if you and AJ demonstrated getting the full bags out of a pickup.
I had that down on my list for a upcoming video. 👍
Great idea from Scott Shaver! It’s the 20oz. Bottle vs. the 2 Liter. People paying for the convenience. The built in covers are also a plus. I have some of the bigger bags with the covers and I love them.
Another great video Dan. I did a video using AJ's 1/3 cord bags, and then another showing how well the wood dried. While those larger bags are great for larger quantities, this new smaller bag definitely has a market. I'm finding more and more customers looking for small quantity deliveries... this would be perfect.
Thanks OG! I was thinking about you and if you'd be able to convert your one customer to something like this instead of his covered racks that you refill. I think these bags could be pulled out of the back of a truck by hand...not sure but I'm gonna test that theory here soon. 😀
@@Back40Firewood Based on a quick calculation I'm thinking the bags would weigh around 250-300 lbs. max for dry wood. That could easily be pulled out of a pickup or dump trailer by hand. My airbnb customer wants it stacked in racks for the "look". It's not bad because I can back right up to the racks.
I am learning that the smaller amounts are the way to go .
Thanks for sharing these! Might be just the ticket for my cooking/smoker wood customers! (12" pieces)
Those are incredibly useful. I've got an Airbnb rental in the mountains of Maine that we have a wood stove in, I'm always hauling up IBC totes from my primary residence and then manually unloading them into a firewood rack at the camp. These will put an end to all of that!
Yes indeed these bags would definitely change your process for sure. And that is another great example of how they could be used.👍🍻
You are so very right Dan. People want smaller Firewood and that Bag is the Solution to it. They could keep it, even on the Outside and Protected from the Elements.
I am Cutting some up for my 1hour. Like I said Cut the Rounds 1day and Split the Next. Got between 10 and 15Logs in on Saturday, Oak and Locust, some Cherry. Back at it Finally I hope and not going to over do it. Ron from the Woodyard in Upstate NY.
These are pretty cool, thanks for sharing the new product. For every full IBC tote I bundle, I end up with a 30 or so pieces that are just a little too small, this would be perfect to collect those chunks and sell a larger bag bag of them or like you say wheel them over for my personal burning needs. Have a great Sunday Sir!
Thanks...and yes these bags would be perfect for those smaller and shorter pieces, both for just moving around and also selling.
Hi Dan That's a Great idea from Shaver Specially and Sales That Holds More than a WheelBarrow and Yes Bringing Professional about it 👍
Sounds like a great option for those that want to get small Qty.
Hey Dan We use the log lift bags , they work but keep them out of the sun , ours last 1 1/2 years , your right on those smaller deliveries , customer service is # one and they will pay for it, keep the sawdust flying . Cheers Jeff and Jill
Yep the sun will do that, even if the bags say they won't...lol...this size definitely will open up opportunities for people who find or create the market for them.
I always knew firewood was you're BAG! Stay cool Brother... Peace...
lol...guess that's better than being half in the bag! hahaha
I think you will probably make a stand for under the Kindlet to fill them. It would be interesting to see how the small splits would dry in them. Nice demonstration.
Interesting idea
Very inspiring videos! Thank you for the new ideas! 🐱💞
Genius. You have shared alot of great info Dan, but this is a great idea for those in Urban areas and cities. Here in Ontario/Canada, you can not have an open fire in your backyard but you can have , in many area, a chiminea or similar receptacle, to enjoy a backyard fire. Like me, most don't want or need a face cord at a time but having a bag like this (9CF) to move around easily makes alot of sense. Those with passive wood stoves may also want smaller quantities, easily moved around, instead of long wood piles on the side of the house. Thanks for sharing! Great product and a great new option for firewood companies trying to serve customers in cities/urban areas. Cheers and Merry Christmas!
Thanks GP! These bags would absolutely be a hit for urban settings, really opens up a LOT of opportunities and possibilities.
It's called a hand truck.
Wanna hear somethin' funny??? Here in Mexico they call it a Diablo... 😈
Thank you or posting your videos during my "coffee hour".
The bags are certainly a good in-between solution, fitting nicely in size between the large "super-sacks" and the smaller bundle wood bags.
Someone could even fit 2 or 3 of those in the back of SUV, if needed.
Q: Assuming you leave the bag at a customers location, how would a firewood seller arrange for "recycling" the bag?
Seems a shame not to get another use out of it, or, just include cost of the bag in the overall fee, if the customer wants to re-use it?
Assuming a sall firewood supplier may not have a tractor and forks, I envision a 2x4 rack/frame with hooks, to hold the bag up and open for filling.
Maybe a rack on wheels? maybe a rack affixed to the handcart?
Return bags for discount. Add cost into the product price
I think a deposit would need to be put in place to encourage customers to either return the bags or swap them out when reordering. Exchanging the bags would be easier if you are making the delivery, but if the customer is picking up it might not be as easy to get the bag back...so would either need a deposit of build the cost of the bag into the price of the wood.
hi there ,interesting , best to all john
Saw your tops for totes vid yesterday, I might have some more totes in the works so glad that topic came up for how to make the tops. 👍
@@Back40Firewood hi there i got more on the batters coming thanks john
Don't you have a bag from them, John?
@@williamellis8993 hi there yes 1 full 11 empty , john
Make sure you charge a rental fee of the cost for the bag if you are going to leave it there. People will keep them.
Yep was thinking a deposit would need to be put down on the bag and then when reordered swap the bags out.
Also ... if your conveyor belt dumped into the bag, which was hooked to your tractor loader forks, that may work. Or not, but it would be fun to try.
Interesting product and great market to get into 😊
It's a hand Truck. Girls use dollies.😅😅😅😅😅😅
Wood be useful for weekend campers at parks. (pun intended) Either they take with them, or you could deliver directly to them at campsites.
Great bag. Will you be adding the Shaver bag to your roadside stand?
Perhaps...I did have that thought go through my mind of figuring out a way to have these at the roadside stand...we'll see.
That is not just an appealing looking bag the specific size looks to be the ideal size for lack of a better term manageable size can see using those specific bags for delivering larger bulk amounts especially when going some distance from the delivery vehicle not to mention they just look professional
Good deal…🎁🎄
The more I see you and several other channels I watch, the focus seems to be service outside of just splitting and delivery..... are those bags re-usable.....?
Yes the bags are reusable. I think the more you can add to your service the more $$$ you can make. There's a market for all kinds of firewood services.
You have hit the jack pot
Dan,every thing changes in any business and like you said customers want what they want and you better be able to change the way you do things or you might lose that customer 👍😮😊❤
Yes indeed...things change or if there isn't a market for something like this, just have to build one. 😀👍
The blue/black glove - are those insulated? If so, who makes them?
Yes they are....they are Well Lamont Cold Weather latex coated gloves. I picked them up at Farm & Fleet here locally. Not sure if they are available online or not.
@@Back40Firewood thankyou
I'll bet you could spread the forks out one more notch on the tractor and load right into the bag easily.
Those are great bags. There is a great market for that for sure.
They'll work great for bulk storing as well, maybe not bulk regular but bulk mini firewood...lol
@ I think we had the same thoughts
It also looks like large pneumatic tires are necessary for transporting those bags.
Bill
Have a couple questions what's that bag weight when it's full? What's the cost of that bag? When you deliver that bag do you leave the bag and if you do do you charge them for the bag? Those just a few questions I have I have more but this'll do for now! Lol have a great day!
Weight is going to depend on how seasoned the wood is. Green or wet wood weighs a lot more than dry seasoned wood. Charging the customer for the Barrow Bag depends on how you run your business model. You could add the cost on to the wood price or you could treat it as a deposit system, extra money up front and then when they return the bag they get a money back. - How much you say… For more information and to get yourself some Firewood Barrow Bags contact Shaver Sales Inc, additional details on how to contact Mr. Shaver in the description of this video. Hope this helps, have a great day Around the Yard.
@@AroundTheYard-MN first off let me say I sent this to back 40 because he's the one using the bags so the questions I were asking was for him not for some random person out there to give me some answers that I could make up myself! I have specific questions because he uses the bags therefore he should be able to give me the Pacific answers I asked for I didn't want random answers I could have went to shaver and and done that that's no big deal but he's using them he should have the answers! So thank you for trying but it wasn't a very good try!
About the same as what AroundTheYard said...weight will depend on what type of wood and how dry it is. If I were to do this I would have a deposit for the bag and then when customer reordered swap out the bags. Pricing for bags is on Shaver's website that is linked in video description, think for 20 bags price is between $8-$9 each.
And you could do both....either leave the bag, or dump the bag out at the customer's place.
Intrigued … the website puts a 20 bag order after shipping, fees, etc at 8.39 a bag … do you recollect them? Forward that deposit to customer?
I think your realy on to something Dan the bag is the right size for people with fireplaces,saunas,fire pits,table top stoves, smokers pizza ovens and its the size, enough for a bunck of fires bot to much to store😅😂🎉❤😮
Exactly the size for a bunch of fires, but not too big that's gonna take up a lot of space for storage.
According to the Shaver website these are 9 cubic feet capacity. Certainly an interesting idea. The cost of the bags would have to be factored into the price as that is not an insignificant amount.
I'm thinking some sort of deposit on the bag and then set up the potential for reordering and just swapping out of the bags when you take the next one.
QQQ Dan No More Tires 😂 to Air Up 😂👍
The sauna has a lock from the outside, interesting. If I were LBM I would lock you guys up (only for a while of course) and asking for extra 'Sunday money' haha
You'd better hope he doesn't see this post, Dan lol.
lol...yep I think that's to keep the wind from blowing the door open when not in use and I don't think it's heavy duty enough to keep this Wood Hound locked up...hahaha
Don't let Amanda find out you have a dolly in the wood yard.
Thank you for sharing and thinking outside the cord!
I'm seeing an opportunity for smoking wood chunks, gonna have to check these out.
Playing around with youtube, what editing software are you using, good for newbs, etc? Thank you for any input.
Smoker chunks would work great in these bags, for sure!
I use Final Cut Pro, but iMovie works great as well. But those are for Apple/Macs....not sure for PCs what is good. There's a bunch out there if you search for them and if you're not doing anything too fancy almost all of them will do what you need.
@@Back40FirewoodStoked for the possibilities of the sampler, thank you for your input!
9 cubic feet,
About 150 pounds.
If I were you, I'd modify my 2 wheel cart to hold open the bag for loading. Also, I assume you charge a deposit for the bag?
That bag looks to solve some problems for wood distribution. Cost and deposit fee to customers may be a problem. Cost per bag is key. You can’t afford to give them away. I think it’s a great idea, customer don’t even have to have a rack. Interesting. They must be a least 10-12 dollars a piece.
Yes, would need to either have a deposit or build into the cost. Looks like they are just under $9 a bag so definitely wouldn't want to give 'em away.
QQQ Dan How Much do those Bags Coast of the Shaver
just under $9 each or less if you buy more..more ya buy, cheaper they are.
Rent the bags to customers or sell ??
Would probably do a deposit and then encourage repeat customers and just swap out bags.
@@Back40Firewood yes good idea !
Start making chop sticks
😂
Those bags pain in the ass. Cost, retrivale, no thanks