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    America's first wireless communication network, known as the Microwave Radio Skyway, launched in the 1950s and transformed our ability to communicate long-distance. Over half a century later, however, technology has advanced to the point that vast amounts of old infrastructure, including hundreds of towers, have simply been abandoned. In today's video, we will look at what remains.
    Chapters:
    00:00 - How your grandparents made wireless phone calls
    00:47 - The history of long-distance “Relay” communication systems
    03:18 - The History of early telephone technology
    05:36 - The Unexpected side effects of telephone technology
    07:47 - Nikola Tesla’s World Wireless system
    09:00 - How Guglielmo Marconi successfully implemented wireless communication
    10:22 - America’s first wireless communication system
    13:40 - How AT&T’s Microwave Skyway Network Changed the World
    15:37 - When fiberoptic wires replaced Microwave networks
    16:55 - What remains of AT&T’s abandoned skyway network
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  • @ITSHISTORY
    @ITSHISTORY  11 месяцев назад +14

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    • @barrycaplin1394
      @barrycaplin1394 11 месяцев назад

      Thumbs down for having a sponsor and many more if I could for the low life act of interrupting your content to spew garbage. Welcome to ranks of garbage youtubers!

    • @ChristianConservativ
      @ChristianConservativ 11 месяцев назад +2

      I can't believe you left out Cher Ami on the carrier pigeon part, or the Carrington Event on the telegraph, or the Japanese Ku-Go “Death Ray” weapon, or the Transatlantic telegraph cable, or the Transatlantic communications cable, or even the Moscow-Washington hotline and there are several others but I guess you would lose the attention of the audience. Oh and the "Talkies".

    • @Charlie-Oooooo
      @Charlie-Oooooo 11 месяцев назад +2

      So why ARE unused microwave towers still standing? Too much money to take them down? Or left up as potential backup if some future crisis occurs? Or planned to be re-purposed for something else?

    • @ChristianConservativ
      @ChristianConservativ 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Charlie-Oooooo Too much money to take them down and some are planned to be re-purposed for something else.

    • @Charlie-Oooooo
      @Charlie-Oooooo 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ChristianConservativ thank you for replying sir. They sure did build them to last!

  • @ethanlamoureux5306
    @ethanlamoureux5306 11 месяцев назад +295

    The title of this video promised us one thing: “Why America's Forgotten Microwave Skyway Network is still standing.” And after having watched a video which spends 18 minutes reviewing the history of communications, we still don’t know.

    • @daveh2612
      @daveh2612 11 месяцев назад +52

      They’re still standing because a) no expense was spared constructing them and b) because they are typically too costly to demolish or dismantle. Some sites have been repurposed for cellular or muncipal communication, WISPs etc

    • @americanpatrol4603
      @americanpatrol4603 10 месяцев назад +62

      I was wondering the same thing. I hate being click-baited and won't be watching anything else from this guy.

    • @a1973stang
      @a1973stang 10 месяцев назад +28

      Just saved me some time. 👍

    • @ripwednesdayadams
      @ripwednesdayadams 10 месяцев назад +16

      Thanks for saving me from wasting my time.

    • @specialed6357
      @specialed6357 10 месяцев назад +5

      He said cause it was built into building designs. Another words not easily removed, so they're just left alone.

  • @mercuryfusion8325
    @mercuryfusion8325 11 месяцев назад +151

    As somebody who to this day works on microwave networks.....these are still in use by hundreds of entities in the US alone. They are used in places where laying fiber optic cables would be cost prohibitive or is flat out not allowed (through national parks, etc). This equipment is still manufactured and progressing and is now capable of supporting speeds up to 10Gbps.

    • @Emily_M81
      @Emily_M81 8 месяцев назад +1

      I design word docs for circuits using them sometimes and I hate them lol. They're inventoried in our TIRKS database in all kinds of bullshit ways and we basically have to get told by an engineer a carrier we need to use is some microwave between mountains XD

    • @mercuryfusion8325
      @mercuryfusion8325 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@Emily_M81 They function great, but we do all our own documentation in house lol. Hybrid circuits are always a PITA though, I much prefer pure microwave networks overall. As soon as you start introducing fiber inbetween on the circuits it gets way too messy and complicated (from a monitoring standpoint).

    • @HappyHermitt
      @HappyHermitt 8 месяцев назад +2

      I've worked many cell sites linked on mw.

    • @jamiesuejeffery
      @jamiesuejeffery 6 месяцев назад +1

      I live in the desert west of Nevada, grew up in Idaho. Yes. Many of these are still in use. Some are now smaller than they used to be. I am now an ham radio operator. We use similar microwave radios to jump from mountain to mountain for our repeater network. Telecoms still use these older system.

    • @deepspacecow2644
      @deepspacecow2644 6 месяцев назад

      How good do those e-band links handle rain?

  • @lisamiller8174
    @lisamiller8174 11 месяцев назад +164

    As someone who worked at MCI for a number of years, I can appreciate this video. However, there was no mention of MCI. Who contributed much to microwave communications. They also won their case against AT&T, thereby breaking up that monopoly. Also, no mention of Hedy Lamarr, whose work contributed to telecommunications.

    • @grayrabbit2211
      @grayrabbit2211 11 месяцев назад +27

      "That's Hedley" - Mel Brooks

    • @Johnny_Socko
      @Johnny_Socko 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@grayrabbit2211 I love Mel Brooks, but I hate that he turned that highly accomplished woman into a punchline.

    • @grayrabbit2211
      @grayrabbit2211 11 месяцев назад +18

      @@Johnny_Socko That punchline made me look up who the real person was and I was quite amazed. I don't think she gets enough recognition.

    • @dwightpries8330
      @dwightpries8330 10 месяцев назад +1

      MCI, as in Micro Communications Inc? With offices in Manchester, NH at Grenier Field? If so, you may have worked with my dad, Walter.

    • @firewalker1372
      @firewalker1372 10 месяцев назад +6

      MCI huh, wow that’s a name I haven’t heard in many many many years. That and cellular one, I even remember the jingle. 😂.

  • @mikekwayne
    @mikekwayne 11 месяцев назад +109

    When I was born in 1961, Dad took a job with a team that service, upgraded, and installed new Skyway towers. It was one of several teams. Teams had to live in travel trailers of a maximum length, so they could drive in any state by day or night. We were always moving from one tower to another. The teams became VERY close knit. Even after Dad quit when I started school, he kept in touch with old team members for decades.

    • @brandonblack8735
      @brandonblack8735 11 месяцев назад +11

      Nice story. I think the social aspect of government projects is one of the most undervalued benefits they often bring. The relationships forged during these projects are still paying off till this day. Just the Apollo program alone is still paying back this country. Traveling as a youngster must have been quite the adventure during that time period.

    • @toomanyuserids
      @toomanyuserids 10 месяцев назад +5

      My father worked on these, not on site but tuning things in the office. We'd go on a road trip and he knew every tower would be on I-80...

  • @scumpoozie
    @scumpoozie 11 месяцев назад +88

    I worked for a WISP before owning my own. We used one of these in a rural South Louisiana area. Truly remarkable how NO expense was spared in every facet. I had the pleasure of talking for 45minutes with an older Gent that managed this Long Lines Site. These were an overlooked factor in this Nation's infrastructure.

    • @watchthe1369
      @watchthe1369 10 месяцев назад +6

      much like the concrete arrows for the early airmail......

  • @tfmn218
    @tfmn218 11 месяцев назад +54

    I'm curious where you found the term "Skyways"? Every website and document I've ever seen on the AT&T microwave network referred to them as the "Long Lines".

    • @hugh007
      @hugh007 11 месяцев назад +12

      Long Lines was a branch of AT&T Bell System. It connected the various local companies to each other and internationally. It also carried network radio and TV programs across the country. I worked for them in the analog days into the fiber and digital days. It was discontinued by the court ordered divestiture, and its functions absorbed into AT&T.

    • @andythekitsune
      @andythekitsune 10 месяцев назад +4

      Trans Canada Skyway is what Bell Canada called the system

    • @wyliesdiesels4169
      @wyliesdiesels4169 10 месяцев назад +5

      yup the correct name is AT&T Long Lines NOT skyway

  • @tedmoss
    @tedmoss 10 месяцев назад +19

    I was a radio engineer for APS in Arizona back in 1967 after I got out of the USAF. We still used tubes then, but over several years converted to transistor equipment. The old tube equipment was made by RCA and called CW-20 microwave relay. Our system ran all over the state on the mountain tops. You really had to know a lot of different things like snowshoeing and climbing towers (280 ft). Back then we worked by ourselves which was a little dangerous, things have changed a lot now.

  • @bkbroiler8069
    @bkbroiler8069 11 месяцев назад +57

    As a member of the analog age I can attest that making a phone call 40 years ago was almost exactly the same as today on your pocket computer. We just had to remember the numbers and dial them

    • @thatyoutubeguy7583
      @thatyoutubeguy7583 11 месяцев назад +9

      Pocket computer. Never heard cell phones be called that

    • @jamescameron6819
      @jamescameron6819 11 месяцев назад +8

      Often had way better connections back then. Way more reliable

    • @wzpu3283
      @wzpu3283 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@thatyoutubeguy7583"handheld computer with telephony"

    • @michaelw6277
      @michaelw6277 10 месяцев назад +3

      I remember that my grandpa had a pocket calculator that could be programmed to hold names and phone numbers. I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

    • @JustinVodden
      @JustinVodden 10 месяцев назад +2

      I call it a pocket computer too

  • @jim2lane
    @jim2lane 11 месяцев назад +108

    The horn antennas shown at 10:45, 11:13 and 11:33 did collect microwave transmissions, however, these were used for astronomy and satellite communications, not for early terrestrial communications experiments. The one shown at 10:45 is the Holmdel Horn Antenna in NJ which is now a national landmark. It was instrumental in the discovery of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) which is a key piece of supporting evidence of the Big Bang theory

    • @meh11235
      @meh11235 11 месяцев назад

      Big bang is false … the dishes were comms systems … they date back to the 30s when wireless was being tested by the agency.

    • @Nobody85746
      @Nobody85746 11 месяцев назад +2

      Wave guides, sorry it was my thing 😢

    • @MitzvosGolem1
      @MitzvosGolem1 11 месяцев назад +1

      Dr Penzias CMBR noise.
      True

    • @The-Friendly-Grizzly
      @The-Friendly-Grizzly 11 месяцев назад +11

      Holmdell was also the US station for Telstar, the very first “live” communications satellite. The other station was in Goonhillie (so) Down in Scotland. I recall seeing the first live telecast from Europe.

    • @Scottocaster6668
      @Scottocaster6668 11 месяцев назад +5

      Wow, look at you guys with more info than Ryan Socash! 👍

  • @towertone
    @towertone 11 месяцев назад +47

    a few notes-
    AT&T sold all of their towers, including cell.
    Many of these are retrofitted with cell antennas.
    Many were built to withstand hurricanes, power outages and floods so they will likely still be around for 50 more years.
    MCI started off as Microwave Communications, INC and also had network of these.
    Microwaves are point-to-point, so the curvature of the earth limits their distance depending on height of dishes (which reduces reliability), elevations of site and of course anything in the way, even trees.

    • @theabbottagencylive5210
      @theabbottagencylive5210 11 месяцев назад +2

      I have been to a site with its building still standing after the Washington IL EF 4. I can certainly say that the whole being resistant to hurricanes is and strong weather is right.

    • @dominicm2175
      @dominicm2175 11 месяцев назад

      It’s always been my understanding that the original ATT microwave tower network connected military bases across the US to communication hubs.

    • @dominicm2175
      @dominicm2175 11 месяцев назад +8

      Clickbait..the video has literally nothing to do with the title until the last minute or so….the title should be “ History of telecommunications in the US.

    • @towertone
      @towertone 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@dominicm2175 I had hoped for more discussions about the towers themselves, freqs used, Traveling wave tubes, yada yada

    • @edletain385
      @edletain385 11 месяцев назад +3

      I remember having a farmer dig up a 50K pair cable that was at the time the main trunk between Edmonton and Calgary (not his fault, the location was not marked properly, a discrepancy between planned and 'as built'). service was rerouted via the nearest microwave tower but it didn't have the same capacity. Some poor outside plant guys spent many hours in a wet muddy field under a tent splicing it back together. That tower is still standing, hosting many cell antennas. Fibre replaced the copper long ago.

  • @fordson51
    @fordson51 11 месяцев назад +28

    Everything you said is true, but you missed a detail. Marconi's 1901 transmission was transatlantic, but it did not originate in Newfoundland. It originated in Wellfleet, MA on Cape Cod where Marconi build his station to send radio messages across the Atlantic. Newfoundland was suppose to just be a relay station, but when the message was first sent it was found to be going directly to Cornwall and bypassing the Newfoundland station.

    • @ron.v
      @ron.v 10 месяцев назад +6

      I don't disagree but what he says is misleading. It shows he clearly does not understand much of what he's talking about as if he only read it from various internet websites and created his narration therefrom. See my lengthy comment (above) for details.

  • @glennso47
    @glennso47 11 месяцев назад +16

    The “operator “ on Rowan and Martin Laugh In. Ernestine “One Ringy dingy. Two ringy dingies.”

    • @jim2lane
      @jim2lane 11 месяцев назад +5

      Ernestine as played by Lily Tomlin 😉

    • @glennso47
      @glennso47 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@jim2lane Thank you for sharing the name of the actress.

    • @jim2lane
      @jim2lane 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@glennso47 that was always one of my favorite skits on that show 🙂

  • @Scottocaster6668
    @Scottocaster6668 11 месяцев назад +23

    Ps: Kudos to this comment section, it has tons of information on these towers not covered by Ryan. Good Work Guys! 👍

  • @SeanLamb-I-Am
    @SeanLamb-I-Am 11 месяцев назад +21

    Railway semaphores weren't used in the way that is suggested in the video, as in sending individual letters to be decoded further down the line. The telegraph, once it was introduced, was used to transmit complex native-language messages, initially via morse code. Railway semaphore signals were more equivalent to street traffic lights. They were signals to the train drivers to tell them the status of the track ahead of them and had only a few aspects that roughly equate to Stop, Caution and Go. Generally, there was one pole for each track approaching the signal gantry, with multiple semaphore arms for tracks that had points for diverging routes.

    • @vijayanchomatil8413
      @vijayanchomatil8413 10 месяцев назад

      Nevertheless, the fact that they were handed down to a different industry (railroads) is a valid point.

  • @deepbludude4697
    @deepbludude4697 10 месяцев назад +2

    Very cool video. In 1982 I hired on with RCA as a tech working on the Missile Test Project, We supported, microwave, submarine cable and HF/VHF as well as a new Satcom link for uploading and transmitting data from the Shuttle and other USAF/USN space projects I got to work up and down the range before they closed majority of the sites. It was fun, hard work, harder partying, great people that had a get it done work ethic. I feel so blessed to have been involved.

  • @grayrabbit2211
    @grayrabbit2211 11 месяцев назад +45

    Microwave transmissions are still used in the telecommunications systems in the USA today. My own office has to separate microwave links on the roof at two different frequency bands which provides our internet and phone connections to the outside world.
    Many cell towers are connected to the rest of the world via microwave, especially in rural areas.
    And for awhile we were using microwave-linked Aerostats (blimps) for cell and internet service on Fort Myers Beach after Cat 5 Hurricane Ian completely destroyed the phone & cable cos in the area.

    • @Elfnetdesigns
      @Elfnetdesigns 10 месяцев назад +6

      Also literally your homes WiFi router is a microwave transceiver for 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz.

    • @Google-McGoogle
      @Google-McGoogle 10 месяцев назад

      Popcorn 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

  • @domgag1756
    @domgag1756 11 месяцев назад +11

    Actually lots of these tower are still in use. It's for rural wireless internet providers.

  • @bretthibbs6083
    @bretthibbs6083 11 месяцев назад +23

    these were also known and the long lines and they were used more than just for phones they were also used in the broadcasting industry too for news and the government also used these as back up comms. Also the majority of these sites had bunkers for the equipment that was bomb proof. As far as I know there is a tower in the St Cloud mn area as well as the one on top of the Qwest building in downtown Mpls.

  • @user-wl8yu7hi1h
    @user-wl8yu7hi1h 11 месяцев назад +12

    Semaphore is still used in US Navy. At least one signalman is required on every ship.

  • @albertowen1025
    @albertowen1025 11 месяцев назад +3

    This is an excellent upload! Brings me back to a time when the "Great Monstrosity" ruled our skyline, a 300-foot microwave tower, back in the 1970s, in the town I grew up in Florida. Every time I went by it, I knew one day I would be working for the Bell System. Upon graduation from high school in 1984, I decided that my skills and knowledge would be well enough to apply for an apprentice installer's position, and sure enough, I interviewed for an opening and was hired on the spot. I worked there until 1989, when I was hired by AT&T and stayed there for 15 years when I decided to enter college. Needless to say the old microwave tower was by then just a skeleton of what it once was...but this video reminded of the "good old days" of the Bell System and the job I used to do. THANK YOU!!

  • @TheBaldr
    @TheBaldr 11 месяцев назад +5

    Most news vans had remote microwave transmitters and that is how they did remote across town live broadcasts.

    • @AddieDirectsTV
      @AddieDirectsTV 11 месяцев назад +3

      Still do. But we tend to use cell-based backpacks now.

  • @TheJstewart2010
    @TheJstewart2010 11 месяцев назад +7

    One of my Dad's brothers worked for the telephone company in rural western PA. He said that aligning the microwave transmitters and receivers between two widely separated towers could be quite an ordeal.

  • @ChrisBullington
    @ChrisBullington 11 месяцев назад +5

    For decades I've wondered what that odd extremity on top of that building in downtown Los Angeles is. Thank you for solving a long standing riddle.

    • @Johnny_Socko
      @Johnny_Socko 11 месяцев назад

      Yes, that is the microwave tower atop AT&T's switching center. It was the tallest structure in that part of town before Bunker Hill was redeveloped with the big skyscrapers in the 1980s. I always thought it was so odd & mysterious when I was a little kid.

  • @safetymikeengland
    @safetymikeengland 11 месяцев назад +2

    In 1979, I was an enlisted soldier in the US Army, trained as a radio operator / teletype operator / - it was called MOS O5C at the time.
    Part of that job was called radio relay - we had line-of-site radio sets and we would receive a message from one direction and retransmit it in the opposite direction, basically performing the same function as one station on the old semaphore-relay network.

  • @toyyoda3710
    @toyyoda3710 11 месяцев назад +9

    Wow ... Mind Blown! ... Rest in peace Corning. We loved Corningware and i had no idea (Probably forgot) that Corning had so much to do with the development of fiber optics. I still remember getting my Popular science magazine in the mail in the 1980's as a young teen talking about how amazing fiber optics was but at the time in 1984 (My best guess) it was mainly used for decorations and toys.

    • @spacecowboy2483
      @spacecowboy2483 11 месяцев назад +7

      Corning is far from dead, it is alive and kicking, bringing glass to a lot of areas of modern technology. For instance, guess who developed the high resistance glass used for smartphone screens, a.k.a. gorilla glass? You guessed it!

    • @LlyleHunter
      @LlyleHunter 11 месяцев назад +4

      I miss Corning’s art glass maker Steuben Glass very much. Some of their pieces were legendary like the Nautilus. As a child my family and I took a tour of Corning Glass in the early sixties and it was mind blowing ( along with glass blowing .)

    • @boardnski156
      @boardnski156 11 месяцев назад

      Corning Inc. is very much alive. Steuben glass is still a thing too.

    • @toyyoda3710
      @toyyoda3710 11 месяцев назад

      @@boardnski156 I will give you some time to catch up... unless some other company came along and bought them out in the last 7 days... i think we have to bid farewell the the great, historic company of our past... I have no information on Steuben glass

    • @drlong08
      @drlong08 10 месяцев назад

      Not sure why anyone thinks Corning is dead. I was meeting with their Board regarding negotiations on Fiber Optic lines for our broadband project that was about 20 million in budget and they were very well positioned to assist. They may not make kitchenware but they are doing pretty well in the internet and communications markets.

  • @slamdvw
    @slamdvw 11 месяцев назад +3

    I vaguely remember the commercials for, I believe it was US Sprint - "Calls so quiet you can hear a pin drop." I only assume it was because of the noise of the microwave link vs a fiber link. Pretty wild, microwave was king,... then almost overnight - obsolete.

  • @willskol
    @willskol 11 месяцев назад +3

    Homing pigeons were used for carrying messages. Carrier pigeons were hunted for their colorful feathers which were used on hats etc., and eventually all were killed.

    • @scampeezo
      @scampeezo 3 месяца назад

      I believe you are referring to Pigeons (Ectopistes migratorius) which were extirpated by the end of the 19th century.

  • @mbiehl2
    @mbiehl2 18 дней назад

    In my home town in southern Illinois there is an AT&T Central Office that had a microwave tower on the top of the building. Back in 2014/2015 AT&T removed the tower because it was no longer using it and it was getting too costly to maintain. It was interesting watching crews take it down and scrap the steel and receivers.

  • @carolinaeric8500
    @carolinaeric8500 11 месяцев назад +4

    I actually have a relative who worked for Bell Labs, as a matter of fact he invented micro mirror switching technology for fiber optics. Basically it’s where cables connect from what I understand and where the signal needs redirecting from connection to connection. Anyway, this video was extremely informative I thought and I’ve seen several of these towers before with the horns on them and always wondered about them

  • @Iamdarthplague
    @Iamdarthplague 11 месяцев назад +13

    I live in northern Ohio and I have always wondered what those towers were! I had theorized that perhaps an inter-war radar facility but had no proof. Ive examined the Castalia, Birmingham, and Lorain towers but have never gotten inside. Thank you for explaining what the towers are and their function!

    • @daveh2612
      @daveh2612 11 месяцев назад +6

      If you search AT&T long lines you’ll find a wealth of information about these microwave towers.

    • @iriquoispliskin7185
      @iriquoispliskin7185 10 месяцев назад +1

      You said there's one in Lorain? Where at? I'm near there and I'd love to take a look

    • @Iamdarthplague
      @Iamdarthplague 10 месяцев назад

      @@iriquoispliskin7185 its technically Birmingham.

    • @mishmashmedley
      @mishmashmedley 10 месяцев назад

      @@Iamdarthplague then tell @iriquoispliskin7185 where it is... that's what he asked for, just saying "it's birmingham" doesn't answer "where can i go to see it?"

    • @worldofbrandan
      @worldofbrandan 10 месяцев назад

      @@iriquoispliskin7185 41.415230, -82.144528 good luck, as of 2021 it's hiding behind the tree line

  • @mikmik9034
    @mikmik9034 10 месяцев назад +1

    Jump to 18:05, prior is just history of communications. All worth listening to.

  • @spoonified52
    @spoonified52 10 месяцев назад +3

    There is actually one of these towers not to far from me, what amazes me is I still see people up there on a semi regular basis doing maintenance. While it doesn't seem like it is currently active, I do wonder if it is kept in operating state for an emergency backup for critical communications.

    • @tfmn218
      @tfmn218 10 месяцев назад +1

      Many of the towers do have secondary transmitters on them for various reasons and customers. The only reason the horn antennas remain is the excessive cost to remove them. Many other RUclips videos of the interior of the transmission buildings show they have had all their original equipment removed.

  • @thomthumbe
    @thomthumbe 10 месяцев назад +1

    The horn antenna at 11:24 doesn’t and never did have anything to do with communications or telephone. It is a horn antenna at the Green Bank Observatory in Green Bank, WVA and was used for radio astronomy purposes. It was used to detect clouds of hydrogen in outer space. It is still there, but hasn’t been used for many years (like most of the rest of their antennas). Last time I walked up to the horn, it was covered in overgrown vegetation and simply rotting away. 😩

  • @k.b.tidwell
    @k.b.tidwell 10 месяцев назад

    When I saw the thumbnail I was transported back to the 1970's, when one day I was riding in the back seat of my grandfather's car on the way south to Birmingham, Alabama. I saw one of these towers a few miles north of B'ham, and asked him what it was. He told me it was a microwave tower, but that was the extent of his knowledge. Since nobody had microwave ovens yet at that time, to my young brain it was nebulous science fiction, but I remember thinking that the big square units on it were probably some sort of repurposed television sets. That tower stood for many, many years, and now that I think about it...I can't remember when it actually came down. It was always there...and now it's not.

  • @AutoDudes
    @AutoDudes Месяц назад

    I actually work at an underground bunker for AT&T. It’s still owned and operated by AT&T. It was built back in the early 60s during the Cold War era. Although it does not use communication microwave anymore (obviously) it does still a decent bit of fiber and telephone equipment.

  • @daviddimit2257
    @daviddimit2257 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have a Map of the system from 1960 and its way more than 100 Towers, its thousands!. They were spaced every 30-40 miles across the US. most abandoned or sold off to tower companies that lease to cell providers> Fiber has replaced most of them.

  • @REB4444
    @REB4444 10 месяцев назад

    12:24, this is why long-distance calls were so expensive and were not part of your regular plan because it used that technology. It's something that we take for granted now because back then the cost was ridiculous and only used it for something urgent.

  • @gushiperson
    @gushiperson 10 месяцев назад +3

    I still don't know how you didn't say the words "Long Lines" once in this video.

  • @sporkfindus4777
    @sporkfindus4777 9 месяцев назад

    I loved Nikola Tesla's work in Sparks alongside his brother. I think "This Town ain't Big Enough for the Both of Us" was a message to Edison.

  • @EmelMustafa-dc8lh
    @EmelMustafa-dc8lh 3 дня назад

    🎉 That’s a smart move! More friends on board means more fun and extra bonuses to go around. Let’s spread the word

  • @kaiyack
    @kaiyack 11 месяцев назад +3

    Long lines sites had bunkers and were hardened.

  • @johnley8168
    @johnley8168 11 месяцев назад +2

    It's nice for you to share history that I lived through. I'm amazed sometimes that young people have no idea about things I take for granted.

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 11 месяцев назад +3

    l am in my 80's and i have seen some of these changes.....Thanks so much.....
    Shoe🇺🇸

  • @fromthefireside5677
    @fromthefireside5677 Месяц назад

    The grandparents did not make wireless phone calls with this system. The calls were land line calls but over long distances...

  • @barryrudge1576
    @barryrudge1576 10 месяцев назад

    The problem with microwave is it needs direct line of site so if a structure goes up between two signal posts it blocks the signal, even a large crane can cause problems. We had this problem is the early 1980's with security cameras with signals beamed from a town centre to a building in the outskirts and shortly after a construction site crane did exactly that.

  • @robbmanchester5747
    @robbmanchester5747 17 дней назад

    Southern Pacific and their subdivision Sprint has a fascinating history

  • @shdwbnndbyyt
    @shdwbnndbyyt 9 месяцев назад

    I learned that radio waves and microwaves cause headaches for me in the late 1970's early 1980's... whenever I drove along a certain eastern interstate, and crested the mountains into a broad vallye with a row of these microwave towers on the east and west ends of this valley... and the interstate highway between them, I would get blinding heachaches, barely able to keep my eyes open and on the roadway, until several minutes later when I crested the next set of mountains and entered the next valley. Since I am now essentially retired, no more cell phones or wifi for me, my house has LOUSY TV/Radio/Cell phone reception... it is quite wonderful not having constant low grade headaches.

    • @uploadJ
      @uploadJ 3 месяца назад

      re: "radio waves and microwaves cause headaches for me in the late 1970's early 1980's."
      Not really likely. Those 'beams' from those antennas are highly refined, focused, to point at a station some 15 to 20 miles distance. Its not like a broadcast tower that sends a signal all over the land for reception by everyone.

  • @kl0wnkiller912
    @kl0wnkiller912 10 месяцев назад

    I worked in Satellite Communications in the US Army in the 1980s. in the early 2000s I worked for an MCI company that sold and installed satellite earth stations all over the world, mostly to third-world countries. By 2004 we were laying off because of the advent of fiber optic. Fiber is cheaper and easier to deploy than satellite equipment and this made it particularly attractive to poorer countries.

  • @thecianinator
    @thecianinator 3 месяца назад +1

    Holy cow! I live right by one of these things and I didn't even know!

  • @keithstudly6071
    @keithstudly6071 10 месяцев назад +1

    i think that this piece was unnecessarily confusing, mixing the history of wireless communication with long distance data transmission. The microwave network was built to provide a cheaper alternative to copper transmission cables for long distance trunk lines. They fell out of use because of 2 reasons, fiber optic cables and to a lesser extent satellite. The rise of microwave might be linked to the development of high frequency radio tech for radar during WW2 because that produced the amplifiers and receivers for microwave communication that made Skyway Network possible.

  • @mackpines
    @mackpines 11 месяцев назад +5

    I recall seeing an array of these huge antennas on top of a building in Portland, Oregon a few years ago.
    Always assumed they were for radio or TV.
    Never would've thought they were for telephones.

    • @mercuryfusion8325
      @mercuryfusion8325 11 месяцев назад

      They are likely used for data not just telephones, still in use today with modern capabilities.

    • @joshschoonover6429
      @joshschoonover6429 11 месяцев назад

      The microwave relays system was also used to broadcast TV coast to coast, too.

    • @benjurqunov
      @benjurqunov 11 месяцев назад +1

      I don't get into downtown Portland much lately, but I noticed those horn antennas were finally removed a couple years ago.

  • @panatypical
    @panatypical 11 месяцев назад +1

    People still don't know Jack about telephone etiquette. Even businesses, they ask who you are before they introduce themselves....

  • @Og-Judy
    @Og-Judy 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was a kid in the 1950s My grandmother was afraid of storms so they never had a telephone

    • @JohnWilson-wg4gk
      @JohnWilson-wg4gk 7 месяцев назад

      I was a kid in the 1960's. One rumble of thunder and Mom would run around the house unplugging everything.

  • @garthhancock3373
    @garthhancock3373 10 месяцев назад +1

    Bob Moses did a concert on the top of the tower in Topanga CA. Now I know what the hell that tower was used for.

  • @FSstudios1
    @FSstudios1 Месяц назад

    There is ALOT more involved in the AT&T long lines system. There were several different generations of communication channels. There was the L3 line, L5, and many others. AT&T had thousands of these sites and put a lot into American infrastructure. MCI had a huge involvement as well. Now, many of the sites are owned by American Tower Corporation and have since been converted into cellular towers. Microwave horns are still used commonly in the US. There are a lot of data sheets, articles, and forums about longlines

  • @perrylc8812
    @perrylc8812 10 месяцев назад

    Still remember party lines. Would catch myself picking up the phone and listening before I made a call until the mid 90s.

  • @Ramblin_DMC
    @Ramblin_DMC 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love looking fot these towers whenever I travel somewhere new. I'm fortunate to be able to see a massive one from my place of work in Milford, MI.

  • @stevemiller6766
    @stevemiller6766 10 месяцев назад +3

    That's a long way around to explain AT&Ts Long Line system.

  • @mattjohnson1775
    @mattjohnson1775 10 месяцев назад +1

    Man those old microwaves were still in service in the late 90s. The wave guides always reminded me of the kitchen microwave ovens. We were just putting up repeaters on towers with the old school wave guides that resemble a steampunk cornacopia. Lol

  • @Scottocaster6668
    @Scottocaster6668 11 месяцев назад

    Im 56 and i literally grew up in the best era. I had old school lifestyle and now, all the instant "luxuries" of whats going on today with technology. Not to mention the music we all grew up with!

  • @HappyHermitt
    @HappyHermitt 8 месяцев назад

    Theyre still in use in many different ways..
    From Cell Towers to Railroad companies to pwer substations, etc.
    Ive worked on them a good bit

  • @joaopedroalbernaz
    @joaopedroalbernaz 11 месяцев назад +3

    AT&T Long Lines

  • @emmettwong4118
    @emmettwong4118 9 месяцев назад

    It’s amazing how technology has advanced for long distance communication. Today we have the ability to communicate and command spacecrafts launched over 40 years ago and traveling beyond our solar system.

  • @mc3lizard
    @mc3lizard 11 месяцев назад +1

    This explains why long distance calls were so expensive. It costs a lot of money to build and maintain that network.

    • @jamescostello6529
      @jamescostello6529 9 месяцев назад

      Actually it was how your congress critters sucked up to AT&T. It was based on the LATA system. Every time your call passed through another system you paid fees and charges. Gainesville to Orlando passed through 7 such exchanges.

  • @stellamcwick8455
    @stellamcwick8455 11 месяцев назад +3

    you should have mentioned that fiberoptic communication also required the invention of LASER technology to work over long distances.

    • @wilsjane
      @wilsjane 10 месяцев назад

      Although fibre optics go back a long way, no one seems to have realised that it was only following the Roswell incident in 1947, we miraculously discovered that by using pulsed light, they could transmit data.
      To this day, no one on this planet has claimed to have INVENTED the system.

  • @freetolook3727
    @freetolook3727 11 месяцев назад +1

    Btw, signal flags are still used in the military particularly the Navy.
    How else to communicate during communication blackouts where any type of electronic signal is a dead giveaway.

  • @victoredwards5714
    @victoredwards5714 10 месяцев назад +1

    I live near the I-80 corridor in Ohio. My high school was/is located about a mile from one of these towers. I always remember looking off in the distance trying to understand why it looked so much different than all the modern cell phone towers. We use to pretend that it actually contained a hidden ICBM missile. The interesting thing about the towers in my area, they are made entirely from local sandstone quarried out of the earth. As far as I know the towers are still in use today with new updated antenna gear, not sure what types of signals they transmit.

  • @LuMaxQFPV
    @LuMaxQFPV 11 месяцев назад +1

    @4:32 that's probably not a photo from the USA. I realize it's a stock photo, but as a geeky guy into this kind of stuff, I had to mention.

  • @jimboscomp
    @jimboscomp 9 месяцев назад

    As someone who operates a WISP, I was always mesmerized with that tower at the top of Topanga (I grew up in Southern California). I always wanted to buy it and turn it into a funky home, and central base of my operations!

  • @ncdave4life
    @ncdave4life 9 месяцев назад

    0:13 No, this is not "how your grandparents made wireless phone calls." It's how they made long distance phone calls.
    10:35 = the start of the information about microwave towers.
    13:28 No, microwave relay towers were not an alternative to undersea cables.

  • @CurCam713
    @CurCam713 10 месяцев назад +1

    We used to see these towers in the middle of towns here in the South. I guess they were connecting the Central Offices of Ma Bell. My father became a telecomm tech at some point before he left the USAF. He contracted to do telecom work and we lived in Iran in the 70s when a microwave system was setup to relay between the "listening posts" at the edge of the Soviet border down to Bandar Abbas in the Persian Gulf. There were many sites in remote, dangerous areas. Later he worked for Datran which competed with Ma Bell here in the states with a system of towers between Washington, DC and Houston. I got to see some of the equipment in the buildings. It was later when I became a tech that I learned more about what was really going on with these systems and the digital data transferred via the Datran system. I think the Datran system was later sold to Sprint.

  • @bower31
    @bower31 17 дней назад

    I'm already familiar with the long lines system, if only you had answered the question in the title within that 18 minutes

  • @jhonsiders6077
    @jhonsiders6077 3 месяца назад

    Our local WISP has bought 3 of them from American tower company they hired me to build a lot of brackets for standoffs to mount radios on them removing the horns is not hard you cut them loose and have a long cable on them hooked to a truck to pull them off and away from the tower and guide cables ! Most are fiberglass and not much to recycle on them use the K12 saw on them and load into roll off dumpster ! They are quite large up close !

  • @alphonsobutlakiv789
    @alphonsobutlakiv789 11 месяцев назад

    There is one in the state park in my village in NY, and in the last 10 years years the removed the equipment from the top, but the tower is still abandon. Making it a viewing tower for the park I fell is best for this one.

  • @TugrulGuher
    @TugrulGuher 3 дня назад

    yeah! Loving the 4ra platform, everything works smoothly. IPL matches ke liye perfect 😍🎉

  • @tyharris9994
    @tyharris9994 11 месяцев назад

    This is why I am thankful for the internet. A lifetime of interesting information. Even some of the people who worked on this system chimed in in the comment section. Beats cat videos and political hate.

  • @craigbrowning9448
    @craigbrowning9448 8 месяцев назад

    In 1954, Bell Labs developed the first Solar Panels for use with remote microwave relay stations.

  • @khlstrkog
    @khlstrkog 3 месяца назад

    no one has forgotten this equipment

  • @r66fplaysgames
    @r66fplaysgames 11 месяцев назад +2

    Haven't been able to watch the video yet, as of writing this comment, but know that there is an old AT&T Long Lines microwave tower on US 24 highway East of Dover, MO.

  • @timothystockman7533
    @timothystockman7533 10 месяцев назад

    Most of the pictures you show of horn antennas are apparently of the AT&T Earth station built for Telstar at Andover ME and of the Holmdel Horn at Bell Labs in NJ which was used for the Echo satellite balloon experiments. The Cosmic Microwave Background was discovered in the mid-1960s by engineers using the Holmdel Horn, which was seen as a remnant of the Big Bang which created our universe. Unfortunately, this historic antenna structure is in danger of being demolished by land developers. You do show a few pictures of the original Skyway towers, as well as the more familiar AT&T microwave towers which followed them with their distinctive Hogg Horn antennas. Although AT&T decommissioned most of their microwave relay network, replaced by fiberoptic cables, and often removed the Hogg Horns, many of these towers are still in use for various modern wireless systems. One aspect which you don't mention is AT&T shortwave radio stations, which were used to transmit telephone calls thousands of miles, for example, between North America and Europe, before the first transatlantic telephone cable TAT1 became operational in 1956. Shortwave radio was also used in the high seas service, allowing ships and aircraft at sea to make and receive telephone calls; this has been replaced by satellite services.

  • @mattalbrecht7471
    @mattalbrecht7471 11 месяцев назад +2

    Scary thought: advances in technology, using dense wave multiplexing via ciena multiplexers, DISA shoves 10 to 12 OC-192's down ONE pair (one transmit, one recieve) of glass fibers. That's a shitload of bandwidth

  • @ronaldwojtylko4375
    @ronaldwojtylko4375 11 месяцев назад +1

    Vast numbers of these "relay" towers were purchased by companies such as American Tower which is a Communications tower rental company that primarily leases space on towers to the cellular carriers.

  • @iGame3D
    @iGame3D 12 дней назад

    Still standing as emergency escape from zombie apocalypse. Keep your skyway map handy!

  • @bekindandrewind1422
    @bekindandrewind1422 10 месяцев назад

    Many of these towers or bunkers aren't abandoned. They're privately owned now or shared with other companies that needed antenna space.. Also, many times the fiber optic runs go through these buildings... It'd be nice to find a truly abandoned space that could be converted into living...

  • @Shadobanned4life
    @Shadobanned4life 10 месяцев назад

    I remember having to call 'long distance' to a friend that lived 5 miles away. Long distance was a big biz!

  • @blakebowers8842
    @blakebowers8842 11 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting photos, but the sites have not been abandoned, ATC, American Tower Company has made a lot of money purchasing the bulk of these towers and leasing space out to state and local government, Wireless Internet providers, Cell comnpanies, etc. My company has dealt with about 300 of these towers, and yes, they have made quite a bit of positive revenue from the same companies. You might want to get your facts straight. Just because a site has brush growing up, and does not appear to be used, does not mean it is abandoned.

  • @aBRUSHforCONFUCIUS
    @aBRUSHforCONFUCIUS 2 месяца назад

    The Pony Express was mail delivery, not a message service. It was killed by the first trans continental train line.

  • @Curt_Sampson
    @Curt_Sampson 2 дня назад

    04:49 That image is of electrical cables; there are no telephone cables on that pole. (Note the insulators and the large single conductors.)
    13:05 Microwaves _are_ electromagnetic waves (which is what I think you meant by "electronic waves").

  • @josephaltman460
    @josephaltman460 3 месяца назад

    When I was a kid I was able to faintly hear 1,000s of conversations happening at the same time when I listened closely to the receiver.

  • @JoeFeser
    @JoeFeser 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for talking about this technology. You did a lot of research and I appreciate it

  • @paulmorgan4177
    @paulmorgan4177 10 месяцев назад

    The problem with ATT Skyways is that it work on line of sight which means another tower had to be built every 30 miles due to curvature of the earth.
    The Troposcatter link system is by pointing microwave signal at the right angle towards the sky, it would bounce off a layer in the atmosphere and could travel 200 miles. This is what was used in Alaska and Canada. And if you’re wondering how big invention fiber optic is, the entire capacity of the ATT Skyway infrastructure can be sent over one strand of a fiber optic cable.

  • @optical_ideas
    @optical_ideas 11 месяцев назад +1

    When i was young i always wondered what these horn like structures with white panels on these towers are, now i know, thanks 🙂

  • @ThundercatDarklion
    @ThundercatDarklion 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome Video!!!! An microwave relay tower that was at the AT&T office building in Downtown Rockford Illinois was torn down. The white strobe during the day and red flashing light at night can be seen quite an distance and I used it as an landmark. Now two new radio repeater towers was put up by the railroads in the rail yards and their white strobes / red flashing LED lights now can be seen.

  • @markusgeimer3099
    @markusgeimer3099 9 месяцев назад

    It's funny how everything rolls back around. Start with wires, then went to radio and microwaves, and now back go fiber optic cables.

  • @Mothman999
    @Mothman999 12 дней назад

    Military defense drove and financed the Bell system. Serving in airforce command centers I recall connecting to serviceable microwave nodes and routing radar data around an unserviceable nodes.

  • @BBQDad463
    @BBQDad463 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for this video. Fascinating!

  • @GB-gf3dm
    @GB-gf3dm 3 месяца назад

    I don't know about the rest of you guys but me and my friends still use smoke signals to this day. Saving thousands of dollars in cellphone bills every year!

  • @innrwrld
    @innrwrld 10 месяцев назад

    I used to see one of these in a rural north Georgia area. It looked as though they had since used the upper half of the tower for regular cellular transmitters while the microwave were lower down.

  • @GrnArrow092
    @GrnArrow092 10 месяцев назад

    There's one of these in my city. When I was a kid, I was told it's a radio antenna for transmitting music from the station to peoples' receivers. The tower is old and I never thought it was part of a microwave communications network. The building its attached to is still being used by AT&T, but I wonder now if the tower itself is abandoned or still in use. It doesn't look like it's seen a fresh coat of paint in years.