This gives me an idea for a new product. I call it cover-cover-trim. It's trim that is designed to go *over* cover-trim, so it doesn't look so bad. I comes with 10 tubes of caulk.
Yeah I'm in the electrical trade and it amazes how often DIYers and handymen do things in a way that takes more effort than just doing it the correct way
@@SuperBeaverlicker Just guessing, but I think it is because they have no idea what they are doing, so the mindset is all wrong. Novice renovators seem to think the process out, but not in the right order. They wind up missing something important, realize it later, then scramble to make it good enough. All they have to do is ask someone in the trade before they start a project, advice is usually free, or a couple beers at the pub.
Even when you look something up on RUclips, there's tons of videos on how to do things and I know damn well that 90% of the videos are showing the wrong way
That doesn't surprise me. What surprises me is when people make more work for themselves. It's not much effort to just remove trim, and yet they spent a bunch of time, and bought a specialty product, to install something to avoid it. I doubt this was less effort than the ten minutes it would have taken to remove the old trim.
Compared to just removing and replacing with new trim, this stuff accomplishes the trifecta - it takes longer to install, looks bad, and costs more. What’s not to like?
The cost too, I glanced at Big Orange Box, 3x per stick vs 1x6 MDF. Not to mention the case of caulk, extra sandpaper, and those special termination blocks that appear to not even match the profile.
@@iviaverick52 bri but save time demolishing trim ? just babysit a cat a weekend the trim is gone. what are we talking about here like hes taking a glue gun to a fucking abs drain pipe tryna unglue it.
That was hilarious! I was actually laughing before you started explaining all the fails with this. Thanks Richard, your channel is top notch in my books!
Even as a DIY guy I never ever would even dream of doing this. Do it right or dont do it at all. Just did crown moulding, chair rail and floor moulding after sheetrocking. All of which I have never done. It took a ton of time to get it to meet my standards but it was totally worth it and gets compliments from guests. It has also resulted in me getting requests from others to do it for them. A resounding NO comes from my mouth everytime.
@@mattozx6rr ok it is their property they can do what they want. If they hired someone then go redicule it. But if they did it themselves keep yer mouth shut. It's their property.
@@mattozx6rr I dont not with someone property. With their ideas oh hell yea. Why? Cause half the shit on my property is janky as hell. Basically treat others as you wish to be treated. I like my ideas challenged but not my stuff.
I'm an amateur carpenter at best and I wouldn't even use that product. I would rip out and start fresh. Loved the video. Please do some more like this.
The previous owner of my house (a carpenter!) put cover trim and painted, texturized plywood over the original baseboards and actual walls just to avoid removing the baseboards. Huge shout out to him for his laziness gifting me a bigger room with undisturbed 90 year old baseboards--just had to dig through a sea of caulk
“Good from afar, but far from good”. My sentiments exactly. You never see close ups of anything. If you are a tradesmen, do it like you would do for yourself, or don’t do it at all. And if you are putting out trash, find something else to do
Yeah, they very carefully avoided any close-up shot when it was all done. I don't see how you can fix butt joints after that setup. And the close-up they did show clearly showed crap.
With my dad as a local builder in my hometown of Sonoma, Ca. Then my grandfather as a jack of all trades, involved in home renovations and repairs, as well as some development. I’m journeyman builder, and just started my own libusiness. I’ve been following your channel for a few years now and absolutely love it. From day one of my apprenticeship finish carpentry has been one of favorite expressions of the trade, and as a residential builder (and now contractor) most if not all of my projects involve finish carpentry! From trim and casing, to cabinets, flooring and and live edge installation. Long story short, I’ve your channel and work has greatly influenced my and my work. The biggest one being taking the leap from MDF to finger joint pine when at all possible. In fact unless it’s requested by the client is not even an option for my company! So thank you for all you do, can’t wait for the next video and! (Especially the reactions) Best, Travis (TS Builders)
Are you being sarcastic or did you love the brushwork? If you are good at cutting with a brush masking is a waste of time so your comment could be interpreted either way.
@@georgebush6002 If you watched the video you will have seen how good they are at DIY, and can decide for yourself if you think they could have painted that without tape.
Yeah I was about to say. I was always told by my family "I you hire a painter and he masks everything off you need to hire a new painter". Any painter who is worth using will be able to paint 99% of the house without the need for masking tape
Richard, I teach carpentry for a living...I use your videos for instructional and resource. The students love it and come back every day talking about them. Keep up the good work and YES continue this. I do this in my classroom ALL the time..."Do's & Don't". Good stuff brother
I really enjoy how they explain that base is typically fastened with 18g nails but then go through all this effort to avoid taking existing base off. My guy, the price of the multitool blade you just roasted would get you a set of 3 pry bars.
@Greg Oleszweski: Yep, most trim less than 50 years old can be removed in a matter of minutes with your fingers and a $6.00 Richards flatbar. The 100 yr old stuff requires a $12.00 kit of bars and a backing trowel and a lot of precaution that you don’t pull half the wall plaster off with it. BUT…here’s the clincher…when some fool has installed the baseboards with ‘trim screws’ (another stupid idea) and PL-400 you’re better off to just demolish the entire house with a large grenade and start over, lol.
Yeah, I don't like using my oscillator for regular straight cuts. It's designed for flush cutting and that's all I use it for. If I want a quick cut I'd rather use my jigsaw. Edit: and sanding!
@@WarPigstheHun: The guy in this video seems genuinely knowledgeable but the saw in this clip looks to me like a rotary cutter not an oscillating tool.
@@rayray8687 nah, I have the same tool from DeWalt. It's labeled "oscillating multi tool." Amazing for flush cuts but cutting regularly is a nightmare. Everything needs to be secure on the table or they will vibrate off it.
@@WarPigstheHun: Yep, you’re right. I first watched the video on a small screen but when I expanded it it’s definitely a multi tool. I have two of these, a corded and a cordless, and they are a godsend for lots of situations in general trim carpentry but they certainly aren’t designed for fine cabinetry, lol. When cutting 100 yr old dried trim they tend to burn their way through rather than cut so you need to keep an eye on the smoke detectors! But anyway, HERE’S THE BONUS!! When the blade has no teeth left whatsoever (which doesn’t take very long) it makes a perfect drywall tool for cutting out j-boxes, plumbing access panels and so on! Even the non-toothed edge of the blade cuts perfectly through drywall with no danger of cutting something you weren’t supposed to cut. I actually keep a 3rd oscillating cutter instead of a rotary cutter just for this purpose. Cheers and happy renovating!
This absolutely cracks me up when someone comes up with a QUICK fix for a problem and the fix winds up creating so many more problems.............great video.... keep em coming
definitely enjoyed the new style content. Keep up the hard work and integration of reaction videos will be a great addition to an already awesome channel. Hope you guys have settled into the new place, and are all doing well. Cant wait to see some more experimental projects, as its humbling to see a great finish carpenter learn more skills, and share the good and the bad.
The product relies on leaving the old molding in place. It looks nasty. "Don't worry about any gaps, you can just caulk it later." A statement of pride right there. Superficiality rules.
@@gs300rich4 you beat me to it. My old grandad's version as an East End (London) painter and decorator; "Putty and Paint, make an article what it ain't" 🤣
I am currently repairing a door casing that a contractor cut to fit a granite countertop. He used two chunks of wood to fill in the casing, not bothering to match the style. This stuff looks exactly like what I am replacing.
Richard don't sell yourself short, I have been following you for 9 out of the 12 years you been on you tube and I can tell you that your craftsmanship is unreal. I wish I had 1/10th your talent.
They are very good at cutting casing & jambs to proper height for flooring. Anytime, I’ve rented a jamb saw to cut a whole house. I have to buy a new blade, because the one that comes with it is trashed.
They have their place, I use mine for under-cutting my door jambs. Also can be handy for quickly cutting the little bit of the corner left that a circular blade can't get when notching something
"Coming soon...Moldings in a spray can! Just like our "cover trim", no sanding or masking necessary!" Looks great in low resolution photos from across the room...especially when covered by furniture, draperies or strategically placed flower pots! It's garbage! They'll sell millions of feet of this stuff!
This is a great idea, I'm glad you decided to do this. It will protect a lot of people; they would be able to see what BAD woodworking is, also it is your responsibility to maintain integrity in your chosen field. GOOD JOB!
I loved this review; I laughed so much at your reaction, I saw the pain, hey it comes down to taking pride in what you do and this missed the mark, thanks.
I also considered using these covers. My house is pretty old (Europe 1960s) and they nailed the base with very big old fashioned nails. When removing them (with quite some force) I took out chunks of the wall. In some areas they were also sitting a few mm under the cemtend floor, so removing was going 2 directions: up from the floor and away from the wall, not easy. But they're all gone and now and I can put my laminate floor closer to the wall and leave space for movement and cover that space with new trim. Because if you are using the cover trim, it can only cover a small gap between the wall and floor. Or the cover trim needs to be very thick. That old trim is using up space. Unless your trim is already hovering above the floor.
Really a fan of the reactionary videos! A good teaching tool as well for what to never, ever do. That small block at the end of the base was the dumbest thing I have seen in my years of trim work.
Not to mention that they didnt cover any nail holes or try to line up the tops of the miters. looks like my first trim job after downing a couple of pints.
Something magical happens when a diy project happens where people fail to see their flaws. When it's something they are paying for they would never accept such mediocrity, but if they did it then it's somehow glossed over as good.
It's because when they do it they realize doing a good job actually takes experience and skill that they don't have lol. "Good enough" is realized, if you will. There is something to be said though for the money you save if you can live with how it looks. I just wouldn't expect others to agree with you.
I was a member of a large model Rail Road club and did a lot of scenery work. Our motto was "strive for perfection and a museum quality product, and if you fall short it will be better than outstanding"...
This reminds me on a house I just finish working installing baseboard, pivot door, and door casings, and adjusting doors that don't close or keep swings because they were out of level (plumb) and the people who install the wood floor didn't take the time to level it, or do a good job, completely horrible situation, so my team of 4 guys spend almost 400 hrs altogether to finish and make it look the way it suppose to be, keep the good work, love your channel, thanks
Richard, I am going to love this series. I had to stop watching the Saturday morning DIY shows because of the crap they do. When I saw a so called professional use a hollow core door for a kitchen counter, I had to shut it off. Pallets and hollow core doors are not carpentry. The comment about "do worry if your seam doesn't line up you can caulk them, makes me wonder if this stuff was developed by a caulking company to sell their product. Can't wait for the next video.
OMG...it's like the bath fitter of the carpentry world. that's Horrendous! I love the reaction video though! Richard your work is masterful! I have followed you from DFW Crown days
There's no need for the transition blocks. You would never see the end profile going into the door casing. On the other end under the toe kick it would make more sense to add a piece behind the base to mask the fact that it's hollow. Add it to the back, cut and install for an almost seamless look. No un nessicary cuts on the face should be the goal.
Question... what if I can't pop the baseboard off? I just bought a house in AZ and it appears the tile was installed after the baseboards so I have 1/2" of tile butted up against the clamshell. I'd like to have words with the genius who did this. Aside from pulling up the tile the baseboard is locked in. I've considered routing the new baseboard to cover the old 3" clamshell but I'd need to buy all the appropriate tooling. Any suggestions?
How many bracelets should you wear while installing cover trim? I think it depends on how much you’re trying to distract the viewer from seeing what a crappy job you’re doing.
@Skilledrex: Anyone who wears any kind of jewelry while operating machinery is a fool. It’s illegal in most factories and is just plain stupid. This video within the video looks like the ‘jenius’ brainchild of a gender-confused biker with zero knowledge of carpentry.
In addition to not crossing your arms when using the miter saw, I'd also recommend getting all the little cut off scraps off the saw before starting a new cut.
In the freeze frame where the installer is wiping the caulking with the damp rag, it also looks like the transition block has a wider radius on its top edge then the cover trim.
The self satisfied "hipster preach" voiceover, the lifestyle bracelets, show tattoos, fancy camerawork and nondescript piano-chill-beats ... you knew this was going to be style over substance. Yes I'm judgemental!
thinking all those too. all that was missing was them smugly looking at what they did over lattes and avocado toast. but I understand why they didn't want to show their face.
Hey, I haven't seen you in a few years on RUclips, my fault for getting so much work. Just want to thank you though because you basically taught me how to do crown and now I'm pretty damn good at it from all of your tips and tricks
Should I install the cover trim before I hang the cover walls and cover ceiling or does the pumper truck outside waiting patiently , full of dap caulk go ahead and start prefilling gaps before dogs and furniture gets lost in them . Also , is measuring this necessary or just a suggestion? if you are equipped with an eye cromiter with accuracy of 2” ?
This is how my grandfather used to do work. Measure once, cut twice, and caulk the crap out of the gaps. He never really cared about what things looked like as long as they were functional.
I'm a retired carpenter and I love your video's and you have inspired me to buy CA glue and laser tape measure that I don't really need.... but at around minute 3:00 and seeing the wtf moment..... I am super glad you are not endorsing these guys :) You are too good for doing reviews of these guys I would normally never watch but but it did bring a smile...
This is a fun idea. Definitely looking forward to this series. Love all your other stuff of course, but this gives a new spin on the teaching angle. Awesome job.
I have a dumb question. I did a full Ikea kitchen remodel in a 70 year old house. The ceiling and walls were bowed some and I installed 40” cabinets that top out at the ceiling. I have 1/8” - 1/4” gaps along the top. Any way to make it not look like garbage?
Thanks for mentioning about cutting without a vacuum. We asked our contractors to stop cutting in the house (they weren’t using a vacuum and removed the plastic from covered areas), and things went downhill from there. They insisted it’s normal to cut inside someone’s home because it’s too much work for them to cut outside on the porch just right outside from where they were cutting.
I'm a homeowner that is currently replacing all the cheap builder grade baseboard and door casings in my home. I've never done anything like this before but watching YT channels like Finish Carpentry TV gave me the encouragement to do it myself. Even I can't believe that someone made a video like this guy did for this cover trim. He's basically saying just cover it all in caulk so your stupid homeowner client won't see what a messed up job our product creates.
I am nowhere near a professional, just a homeowner who occasionally has to do the occasional finish job. With that in mind, is there any actual benefit to a product that is essentially new moulding that goes over old moulding? Maybe I am missing something. I feel that removing baseboard takes barely a couple minutes and then you have more choice in what you use to replace it?
I don't have a lot of experience with DIY stuff.. but all the oscillating, cutting, caulking, etc just seems like so much more work than just removing the old trim. It's like having a draft in your window so you built an addition.
There are no words. Good show. You still have to have all the same tools and setup what are you saving? We've all been there trying to save an hour, - costs you 10!
Question for you. I am a big fan. I need to replace base in my house because of a new wood floor. What profile do you recommend? Our house has a modern look but is older. What would you recommend?
Being in the building trade for 45 years seeing this kind of work is, for lack of a better word, discouraging. I’ve been doing high end finish work for about 25 years and I’ve seen a lot but this is really bad. Your comment about cross cutting ( so true),MDF (cancer board lol) is spot on. Thanks for your channel Aspen Finish and Woodwork Montana
I've seen that stuff but never the actual "how-to cover trim" video. Absolutely silly and your right, kind of "makes me made" feeling. Love to do trim work
Carpenter miter saw rule #1, do NOT cross your arm like that... Three stooges construction. This is exactly like those bathroom remodel companies that install cover up shower installs in "one" day without addressing mold, or rot issues in a customers home. Anyone agree with that??? This is one of the reasons I subscribed to your channel sir! Keep it up please!!!!
Thanks to your videos, I’ve installed crown molding and weinscot. I appreciate what you do for us. Definitely love your tutorials. No need for cover trim over here 😅😅
Thanks for maintaining your bearing throughout the process, I too was on the edge of getting mad. You helped keep my sanity. Caulk and paint DON'T make a carpenter what he ain't
Since the cover trim doesn't protrude past the casings it runs into idk why the plinth block is there at all. They could have just run it up the stopping point. Also one major variable with that stuff is the width of your existing baseboard. Why would you want to much with the possibility of lacking support on the bottom because the trim is narrower? Or, basing your trim on whoever installed the trim last time? Baseboard demo is the so easy when the new stuff is bigger. It doesn't have to look clean because it is getting covered. Geesh
this video reminds me of a cool tool I seen yesterday for removing trim without damaging the walls :) Basically a small pry bar with a wedge to push the trim away from the wall.... $20 and your golden! lol
DIY'er here... happen to be working on baseboard currently, using the 5 1/4" cancer board.... my 12" Dewalt is so old that I have to cut it flat... but this vid is the ultimate "caulk & paint will make it is what it ain't".... thanks for contributing to RUclips University!
I have been an Electrician since I was 17. I have done trim carpentry before, but I always do it old school with great care and attention to detail as I would in doing electrical work. By the way, I know my limits. Words from a 72-year-old man.
Just found this video, and am pleased with your attitude regarding attention to detail. Honestly I didn't see the point to the "transition blocks" at least as shown in the painting section of the video. My wife and I just bought a house which the former tenant had installed his own flooring. Oh my, the workmanship left so much to be desired.
Can somebody explain the oscillating tool part in simple terms? Did they just remove that bit as an example but then why try and tie in the same size and shape of the cover trim? From watching the video I get that it's not a good job but what were they actually trying to show/achieve with it?
You are dead on with your analysis! It's what my Dad calls a "Ten footer" for a car...looks fine from ten feet away. That's the kind of project that I would bid at a competitive rate, get underbid by a "handyman" and then get asked to come back to fix all the mistakes.
In regards to the first vid. If you buy a house to reno it. It literally takes a few minutes to rip off base and case. It still takes you the same amount of time to measure and cut new or this cover trim
4:50 worked for cheap interior painting company (apartments) that used sprayers daily with no masks. After I quit I realized that I had lost my smell by doing it for 2 years. I started to smell things that I hadn't experienced the scent of in a long time.
I think the old trim looked about a thousand times better. Also love how the ending clip with "enjoy the transformation" doesn't show the trim, at all.
This gives me an idea for a new product. I call it cover-cover-trim. It's trim that is designed to go *over* cover-trim, so it doesn't look so bad. I comes with 10 tubes of caulk.
Hahahahah
Lmao!
You're going to make millions.
Matt Risinger even said it helps your energy bill. But first you have to remove all prior layers and seal them and then apply cover cover trim.
Ya, it was hilarious. Are you certain this wasn't taken from a Saturday night live skit?
It never ceases to amaze me how much work people will do to avoid doing work.
Yeah I'm in the electrical trade and it amazes how often DIYers and handymen do things in a way that takes more effort than just doing it the correct way
@@SuperBeaverlicker Just guessing, but I think it is because they have no idea what they are doing, so the mindset is all wrong. Novice renovators seem to think the process out, but not in the right order. They wind up missing something important, realize it later, then scramble to make it good enough. All they have to do is ask someone in the trade before they start a project, advice is usually free, or a couple beers at the pub.
Even when you look something up on RUclips, there's tons of videos on how to do things and I know damn well that 90% of the videos are showing the wrong way
This!
That doesn't surprise me. What surprises me is when people make more work for themselves. It's not much effort to just remove trim, and yet they spent a bunch of time, and bought a specialty product, to install something to avoid it. I doubt this was less effort than the ten minutes it would have taken to remove the old trim.
Compared to just removing and replacing with new trim, this stuff accomplishes the trifecta - it takes longer to install, looks bad, and costs more. What’s not to like?
Exactly! What are the benefits? 🙄
Honestly, if you're good enough to make this cover system look good, you have enough in you to attempt it the right way.
The cost too, I glanced at Big Orange Box, 3x per stick vs 1x6 MDF. Not to mention the case of caulk, extra sandpaper, and those special termination blocks that appear to not even match the profile.
Yes! All the skills to do it correct are used in just covering it up??
seriously, coverings are supposed to be time saving, but there's nothing time saving about this process, and it looks bad in the end.
@@iviaverick52 bri but save time demolishing trim ? just babysit a cat a weekend the trim is gone. what are we talking about here like hes taking a glue gun to a fucking abs drain pipe tryna unglue it.
That was hilarious! I was actually laughing before you started explaining all the fails with this. Thanks Richard, your channel is top notch in my books!
Even as a DIY guy I never ever would even dream of doing this. Do it right or dont do it at all. Just did crown moulding, chair rail and floor moulding after sheetrocking. All of which I have never done. It took a ton of time to get it to meet my standards but it was totally worth it and gets compliments from guests. It has also resulted in me getting requests from others to do it for them. A resounding NO comes from my mouth everytime.
How about let them do their way. It's their shit.
@@timesthree5757 You are correct with the last word as that is exactly what it is if you take shortcuts.
@@mattozx6rr ok it is their property they can do what they want. If they hired someone then go redicule it. But if they did it themselves keep yer mouth shut. It's their property.
@@timesthree5757 I agree its theirs to do with as they please. I will still call them out.I dont sugar coat anything, not even for my freinds.
@@mattozx6rr I dont not with someone property. With their ideas oh hell yea.
Why? Cause half the shit on my property is janky as hell. Basically treat others as you wish to be treated. I like my ideas challenged but not my stuff.
I'm an amateur carpenter at best and I wouldn't even use that product. I would rip out and start fresh. Loved the video. Please do some more like this.
I use cardboard to cover my bad trim. I then wax it and shape it with a sander and then rip it all out and install proper molding.
@@keenobservations3050 I'm not a trim guy, you wax it? Cardboard?! I'm lost.
@@Chris.Rhodes it was sarcasm I think the whole trim cover crap is a laugh. I also would just rip it out and use new trim
@@keenobservations3050 oh okay 😂
Same here. I'm lousy at finish work and I think I could do that better the normal way.
The previous owner of my house (a carpenter!) put cover trim and painted, texturized plywood over the original baseboards and actual walls just to avoid removing the baseboards.
Huge shout out to him for his laziness gifting me a bigger room with undisturbed 90 year old baseboards--just had to dig through a sea of caulk
“Good from afar, but far from good”. My sentiments exactly. You never see close ups of anything. If you are a tradesmen, do it like you would do for yourself, or don’t do it at all. And if you are putting out trash, find something else to do
Yeah, they very carefully avoided any close-up shot when it was all done. I don't see how you can fix butt joints after that setup. And the close-up they did show clearly showed crap.
If it looks terrible on the screen, it's horrific close up.
With my dad as a local builder in my hometown of Sonoma, Ca. Then my grandfather as a jack of all trades, involved in home renovations and repairs, as well as some development. I’m journeyman builder, and just started my own libusiness. I’ve been following your channel for a few years now and absolutely love it. From day one of my apprenticeship finish carpentry has been one of favorite expressions of the trade, and as a residential builder (and now contractor) most if not all of my projects involve finish carpentry! From trim and casing, to cabinets, flooring and and live edge installation. Long story short, I’ve your channel and work has greatly influenced my and my work. The biggest one being taking the leap from MDF to finger joint pine when at all possible. In fact unless it’s requested by the client is not even an option for my company! So thank you for all you do, can’t wait for
the next video and! (Especially the reactions)
Best,
Travis (TS Builders)
I did love the free hand painting without taping off the floor or wall, to really finish off that shabby Shit look.
Are you being sarcastic or did you love the brushwork? If you are good at cutting with a brush masking is a waste of time so your comment could be interpreted either way.
@@georgebush6002 If you watched the video you will have seen how good they are at DIY, and can decide for yourself if you think they could have painted that without tape.
Yeah I was about to say. I was always told by my family "I you hire a painter and he masks everything off you need to hire a new painter". Any painter who is worth using will be able to paint 99% of the house without the need for masking tape
Hahaha shabby shit look, gold!
Absolutely one of my favorite channels. I am so impressed by you and so thankful for all the tips and knowledge you’ve so freely given.
Solutions to problems that don’t exist. Just replace the base. Base is (usually) one of the simplest moldings to tearout and tack up.
Richard, I teach carpentry for a living...I use your videos for instructional and resource. The students love it and come back every day talking about them. Keep up the good work and YES continue this. I do this in my classroom ALL the time..."Do's & Don't". Good stuff brother
I really enjoy how they explain that base is typically fastened with 18g nails but then go through all this effort to avoid taking existing base off. My guy, the price of the multitool blade you just roasted would get you a set of 3 pry bars.
@Greg Oleszweski: Yep, most trim less than 50 years old can be removed in a matter of minutes with your fingers and a $6.00 Richards flatbar. The 100 yr old stuff requires a $12.00 kit of bars and a backing trowel and a lot of precaution that you don’t pull half the wall plaster off with it. BUT…here’s the clincher…when some fool has installed the baseboards with ‘trim screws’ (another stupid idea) and PL-400 you’re better off to just demolish the entire house with a large grenade and start over, lol.
Yeah, I don't like using my oscillator for regular straight cuts. It's designed for flush cutting and that's all I use it for. If I want a quick cut I'd rather use my jigsaw.
Edit: and sanding!
@@WarPigstheHun: The guy in this video seems genuinely knowledgeable but the saw in this clip looks to me like a rotary cutter not an oscillating tool.
@@rayray8687 nah, I have the same tool from DeWalt. It's labeled "oscillating multi tool." Amazing for flush cuts but cutting regularly is a nightmare. Everything needs to be secure on the table or they will vibrate off it.
@@WarPigstheHun: Yep, you’re right. I first watched the video on a small screen but when I expanded it it’s definitely a multi tool. I have two of these, a corded and a cordless, and they are a godsend for lots of situations in general trim carpentry but they certainly aren’t designed for fine cabinetry, lol. When cutting 100 yr old dried trim they tend to burn their way through rather than cut so you need to keep an eye on the smoke detectors! But anyway, HERE’S THE BONUS!! When the blade has no teeth left whatsoever (which doesn’t take very long) it makes a perfect drywall tool for cutting out j-boxes, plumbing access panels and so on! Even the non-toothed edge of the blade cuts perfectly through drywall with no danger of cutting something you weren’t supposed to cut. I actually keep a 3rd oscillating cutter instead of a rotary cutter just for this purpose. Cheers and happy renovating!
This absolutely cracks me up when someone comes up with a QUICK fix for a problem and the fix winds up creating so many more problems.............great video.... keep em coming
definitely enjoyed the new style content. Keep up the hard work and integration of reaction videos will be a great addition to an already awesome channel. Hope you guys have settled into the new place, and are all doing well. Cant wait to see some more experimental projects, as its humbling to see a great finish carpenter learn more skills, and share the good and the bad.
I appreciate you taking pride in your craft. A lot of people like to cut corners or just don't want to do it the right way.
I like to cut corners: mitered and coped corners! (I know. I'm corny.) 😁
The product relies on leaving the old molding in place. It looks nasty.
"Don't worry about any gaps, you can just caulk it later." A statement of pride right there.
Superficiality rules.
“Caulk and paint makes me the carpenter I ain’t”
@@gs300rich4 you beat me to it. My old grandad's version as an East End (London) painter and decorator; "Putty and Paint, make an article what it ain't" 🤣
Well said
“Do your best and caulk the rest”!
😂
hearing someone your caliber talk about these issues makes me realize about some mistakes I was just myself doing too. Thanks!
I find these types of videos very helpful. It's nice to know how NOT to do something as much as learning proper techniques.
Loved your “cheeky” commentary!! 😂😂 Such a great learning tool for us newbies!! Looking forward to more!! 👍🏼👍🏼
This dude is a troll...
I am currently repairing a door casing that a contractor cut to fit a granite countertop. He used two chunks of wood to fill in the casing, not bothering to match the style. This stuff looks exactly like what I am replacing.
Richard don't sell yourself short, I have been following you for 9 out of the 12 years you been on you tube and I can tell you that your craftsmanship is unreal. I wish I had 1/10th your talent.
The oscillating tool is the "sawzall" of trim carpentry.
Tiny sawzall
@@kmonnier tiny dancer
They are very good at cutting casing & jambs to proper height for flooring. Anytime, I’ve rented a jamb saw to cut a whole house. I have to buy a new blade, because the one that comes with it is trashed.
@@aspees I recently added one to my kit... Dont know how i lived without it!
They have their place, I use mine for under-cutting my door jambs. Also can be handy for quickly cutting the little bit of the corner left that a circular blade can't get when notching something
I lost it when he crossed his hand then continued to act like he knows what he’s doing 🤣🤣
He should turn his trim gun depth up too!
My head hurts watching this!
I had to take some tylenol after watching it.
Vince up in here too huh.
@@FinishCarpentryTV 🤣🤣 Advil my friend!
love your vids man, jack of all trades carpenter here, where i live makes it a nessecity. love learning from you, keep it up!
"Coming soon...Moldings in a spray can! Just like our "cover trim", no sanding or masking necessary!"
Looks great in low resolution photos from across the room...especially when covered by furniture, draperies or strategically placed flower pots!
It's garbage! They'll sell millions of feet of this stuff!
Moulding in s spray can 🤔 I’d buy that for a 💵
I actually just use Great Stuff Spray and then sand down the foam once it dries to a trim shape. 🤣
This is a great idea, I'm glad you decided to do this. It will protect a lot of people; they would be able to see what BAD woodworking is, also it is your responsibility to maintain integrity in your chosen field. GOOD JOB!
I loved this review; I laughed so much at your reaction, I saw the pain, hey it comes down to taking pride in what you do and this missed the mark, thanks.
I also considered using these covers. My house is pretty old (Europe 1960s) and they nailed the base with very big old fashioned nails. When removing them (with quite some force) I took out chunks of the wall. In some areas they were also sitting a few mm under the cemtend floor, so removing was going 2 directions: up from the floor and away from the wall, not easy. But they're all gone and now and I can put my laminate floor closer to the wall and leave space for movement and cover that space with new trim. Because if you are using the cover trim, it can only cover a small gap between the wall and floor. Or the cover trim needs to be very thick. That old trim is using up space. Unless your trim is already hovering above the floor.
Really a fan of the reactionary videos! A good teaching tool as well for what to never, ever do. That small block at the end of the base was the dumbest thing I have seen in my years of trim work.
I like these, they are pretty fun. Good to hear your perspectives on things.
Not to mention that they didnt cover any nail holes or try to line up the tops of the miters. looks like my first trim job after downing a couple of pints.
You should get some of it and show how it could look like when a professional installs it. Make a mock wall and go crazy.
Something magical happens when a diy project happens where people fail to see their flaws. When it's something they are paying for they would never accept such mediocrity, but if they did it then it's somehow glossed over as good.
It's because when they do it they realize doing a good job actually takes experience and skill that they don't have lol. "Good enough" is realized, if you will. There is something to be said though for the money you save if you can live with how it looks. I just wouldn't expect others to agree with you.
So true!!
I was a member of a large model Rail Road club and did a lot of scenery work. Our motto was "strive for perfection and a museum quality product, and if you fall short it will be better than outstanding"...
True statement.
I was always a big believer in self-forgiveness. Caulking is the icing,like on Lenten hot cross buns
This reminds me on a house I just finish working installing baseboard, pivot door, and door casings, and adjusting doors that don't close or keep swings because they were out of level (plumb) and the people who install the wood floor didn't take the time to level it, or do a good job, completely horrible situation, so my team of 4 guys spend almost 400 hrs altogether to finish and make it look the way it suppose to be, keep the good work, love your channel, thanks
Richard, I am going to love this series. I had to stop watching the Saturday morning DIY shows because of the crap they do. When I saw a so called professional use a hollow core door for a kitchen counter, I had to shut it off. Pallets and hollow core doors are not carpentry. The comment about "do worry if your seam doesn't line up you can caulk them, makes me wonder if this stuff was developed by a caulking company to sell their product. Can't wait for the next video.
I really like how you stay humble in your craft. Keep up the good work sir. I would definitely hire you if you lived in my area.👍🏾👍🏾
Wooooow. This makes me feel pretty damn good about some of the trim work I've done in my own home now. It looks 100 times better than this
OMG...it's like the bath fitter of the carpentry world. that's Horrendous! I love the reaction video though! Richard your work is masterful! I have followed you from DFW Crown days
There's no need for the transition blocks. You would never see the end profile going into the door casing. On the other end under the toe kick it would make more sense to add a piece behind the base to mask the fact that it's hollow. Add it to the back, cut and install for an almost seamless look. No un nessicary cuts on the face should be the goal.
Thanks for the explanation. I was scratching my head trying to figure out why they even did a transition piece there.
Question... what if I can't pop the baseboard off? I just bought a house in AZ and it appears the tile was installed after the baseboards so I have 1/2" of tile butted up against the clamshell. I'd like to have words with the genius who did this.
Aside from pulling up the tile the baseboard is locked in. I've considered routing the new baseboard to cover the old 3" clamshell but I'd need to buy all the appropriate tooling.
Any suggestions?
How many bracelets should you wear while installing cover trim? I think it depends on how much you’re trying to distract the viewer from seeing what a crappy job you’re doing.
@Skilledrex: Anyone who wears any kind of jewelry while operating machinery is a fool. It’s illegal in most factories and is just plain stupid. This video within the video looks like the ‘jenius’ brainchild of a gender-confused biker with zero knowledge of carpentry.
Is a little cleavage the finish coat?
In addition to not crossing your arms when using the miter saw, I'd also recommend getting all the little cut off scraps off the saw before starting a new cut.
I thought this was a joke. It’s not! There is a cover trim website. Who in their right mind would think this is saving tine and/or money?
If you can't get it locally it'll cost too much to be viable.
In the freeze frame where the installer is wiping the caulking with the damp rag, it also looks like the transition block has a wider radius on its top edge then the cover trim.
The self satisfied "hipster preach" voiceover, the lifestyle bracelets, show tattoos, fancy camerawork and nondescript piano-chill-beats ... you knew this was going to be style over substance.
Yes I'm judgemental!
Oh! I thought a woman was doing the actual install!
thinking all those too. all that was missing was them smugly looking at what they did over lattes and avocado toast. but I understand why they didn't want to show their face.
Hey, I haven't seen you in a few years on RUclips, my fault for getting so much work. Just want to thank you though because you basically taught me how to do crown and now I'm pretty damn good at it from all of your tips and tricks
Great videos. do you think you should place you block planes on their side instead of blade down? This will protect the cutting edge.
Funny reaction. I’m a finish guy too. I might lean too heavily on wood working perfection but I love it. Keep making vids man it’s good for us all.
Yes!!!!!! This reaction video was great.Looking forward to the next one. Ive been in the trades my whole life, starting
Should I install the cover trim before I hang the cover walls and cover ceiling or does the pumper truck outside waiting patiently , full of dap caulk go ahead and start prefilling gaps before dogs and furniture gets lost in them . Also , is measuring this necessary or just a suggestion? if you are equipped with an eye cromiter with accuracy of 2” ?
This is how my grandfather used to do work. Measure once, cut twice, and caulk the crap out of the gaps. He never really cared about what things looked like as long as they were functional.
I'm a retired carpenter and I love your video's and you have inspired me to buy CA glue and laser tape measure that I don't really need.... but at around minute 3:00 and seeing the wtf moment..... I am super glad you are not endorsing these guys :) You are too good for doing reviews of these guys I would normally never watch but but it did bring a smile...
You need to do wayyyyy more of these Richard. This was a great video. Do more!
This is a fun idea. Definitely looking forward to this series. Love all your other stuff of course, but this gives a new spin on the teaching angle. Awesome job.
I have a dumb question. I did a full Ikea kitchen remodel in a 70 year old house. The ceiling and walls were bowed some and I installed 40” cabinets that top out at the ceiling. I have 1/8” - 1/4” gaps along the top. Any way to make it not look like garbage?
Thanks for mentioning about cutting without a vacuum. We asked our contractors to stop cutting in the house (they weren’t using a vacuum and removed the plastic from covered areas), and things went downhill from there. They insisted it’s normal to cut inside someone’s home because it’s too much work for them to cut outside on the porch just right outside from where they were cutting.
Being a trim carpenter myself,,,,,, I have never seen anything like that. OMG! Also love the nail set!
I'm a homeowner that is currently replacing all the cheap builder grade baseboard and door casings in my home. I've never done anything like this before but watching YT channels like Finish Carpentry TV gave me the encouragement to do it myself. Even I can't believe that someone made a video like this guy did for this cover trim. He's basically saying just cover it all in caulk so your stupid homeowner client won't see what a messed up job our product creates.
The call is…..”Unnecessary Roughness” on the carpenters!! Ha!!! 🤣 (6:48). Good call Ref Richard!! 🤣🤣
I am nowhere near a professional, just a homeowner who occasionally has to do the occasional finish job. With that in mind, is there any actual benefit to a product that is essentially new moulding that goes over old moulding? Maybe I am missing something. I feel that removing baseboard takes barely a couple minutes and then you have more choice in what you use to replace it?
Yes we love this and we need more of these bc it will help us and possibly save us extra unnecessary work.
WOW just finishing my trim, I feel much better after watching this
I don't have a lot of experience with DIY stuff.. but all the oscillating, cutting, caulking, etc just seems like so much more work than just removing the old trim. It's like having a draft in your window so you built an addition.
Oscillating tool used with a curved blade work fairly well at cutting a straight line.
There are no words. Good show. You still have to have all the same tools and setup what are you saving? We've all been there trying to save an hour, - costs you 10!
Question for you. I am a big fan. I need to replace base in my house because of a new wood floor. What profile do you recommend? Our house has a modern look but is older. What would you recommend?
“ unnecessary roughness “ 6:45 🙌❗️
love this commentary 😆
Being in the building trade for 45 years seeing this kind of work is, for lack of a better word, discouraging. I’ve been doing high end finish work for about 25 years and I’ve seen a lot but this is really bad. Your comment about cross cutting ( so true),MDF (cancer board lol) is spot on. Thanks for your channel Aspen Finish and Woodwork Montana
I already know these videos will be FANTASTIC!!! Hoping all is well Richard, Dirty Jersey out!!
I don't use oscillator for regular cuts (it sucks at straight cuts). Only to bottom and flush cut (which it's REALLY good at)
I've seen that stuff but never the actual "how-to cover trim" video. Absolutely silly and your right, kind of "makes me made" feeling. Love to do trim work
It reminds me of the video you did a while back called (if I remember correctly) “don’t let a framer do your baseboards”……. lol
Carpenter miter saw rule #1, do NOT cross your arm like that... Three stooges construction. This is exactly like those bathroom remodel companies that install cover up shower installs in "one" day without addressing mold, or rot issues in a customers home. Anyone agree with that??? This is one of the reasons I subscribed to your channel sir! Keep it up please!!!!
Thanks to your videos, I’ve installed crown molding and weinscot. I appreciate what you do for us. Definitely love your tutorials. No need for cover trim over here 😅😅
7:33 made me laugh real good. My wife’s like whats so funny? Absolute quality remarks 😂
Thanks for maintaining your bearing throughout the process, I too was on the edge of getting mad. You helped keep my sanity.
Caulk and paint DON'T make a carpenter what he ain't
End result looks like a landlord special
Since the cover trim doesn't protrude past the casings it runs into idk why the plinth block is there at all. They could have just run it up the stopping point. Also one major variable with that stuff is the width of your existing baseboard. Why would you want to much with the possibility of lacking support on the bottom because the trim is narrower? Or, basing your trim on whoever installed the trim last time?
Baseboard demo is the so easy when the new stuff is bigger. It doesn't have to look clean because it is getting covered. Geesh
this video reminds me of a cool tool I seen yesterday for removing trim without damaging the walls :) Basically a small pry bar with a wedge to push the trim away from the wall.... $20 and your golden! lol
What are your thoughts on using your leg to hold down the baseboard to cut while standing behind the saw
Richard, FINALLY a video that showcases my level of craftsmanship. Thank you, felt rather personal actually. :-)
I wonder if the potted plant comes with the trim to hide your bad install?
DIY'er here... happen to be working on baseboard currently, using the 5 1/4" cancer board.... my 12" Dewalt is so old that I have to cut it flat... but this vid is the ultimate "caulk & paint will make it is what it ain't".... thanks for contributing to RUclips University!
I have been an Electrician since I was 17. I have done trim carpentry before, but I always do it old school with great care and attention to detail as I would in doing electrical work. By the way, I know my limits. Words from a 72-year-old man.
I just like how as the video progresses so does your level of rage with the “quality” of work 🤣🤣🤣
Just found this video, and am pleased with your attitude regarding attention to detail. Honestly I didn't see the point to the "transition blocks" at least as shown in the painting section of the video. My wife and I just bought a house which the former tenant had installed his own flooring. Oh my, the workmanship left so much to be desired.
Can somebody explain the oscillating tool part in simple terms? Did they just remove that bit as an example but then why try and tie in the same size and shape of the cover trim? From watching the video I get that it's not a good job but what were they actually trying to show/achieve with it?
You are dead on with your analysis! It's what my Dad calls a "Ten footer" for a car...looks fine from ten feet away. That's the kind of project that I would bid at a competitive rate, get underbid by a "handyman" and then get asked to come back to fix all the mistakes.
It reminds me of an infomercial I saw almost 20 years ago for a peel and stick crown molding. YIKES!
In regards to the first vid. If you buy a house to reno it. It literally takes a few minutes to rip off base and case. It still takes you the same amount of time to measure and cut new or this cover trim
It will probably work for trim that is tile in have you tried taking that stuff out
Great idea showing the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Awesome!
4:50 worked for cheap interior painting company (apartments) that used sprayers daily with no masks. After I quit I realized that I had lost my smell by doing it for 2 years. I started to smell things that I hadn't experienced the scent of in a long time.
I think the old trim looked about a thousand times better. Also love how the ending clip with "enjoy the transformation" doesn't show the trim, at all.
That's the best tool I ever bought, no problems cutting straight. You know what they say "A tool is only as good as the skill of operator"
This guy, You sir are a true craftsman and professional