I have just found your channel and this video in particular - I'm going to send a link to my wife. She has known I am trans for 35ish of our 37 years together, I have lived a lie since I was 5 years old and finally started falling apart 10 years ago. All my family, friends and former work colleagues have been absolutely fine but the person I want acceptance from really struggles with it.
I’m very sorry, it has to be very difficult living a lie and not been able to be who you really are. You have to love THE PERSON, not loving your partner because your she has blue eyes or pretty nails or beautiful smile because everything can change in a second and you will not be that person with blue eyes or pretty nails or beautiful smile you only going to keep who you really are the person who you are in your heart that’s the way that everybody had the right to be loved
I am a 70 yo transgender woman who hid it for 65 years for fear of losing my spouse of 39 years and my children. My biggest fears came true in February 2019 when they all abandonded me, and amm not allowed to visit the grandchildren. The next few years have been extremely difficult but I have created a loving community with a Reconcilling in Christ Lutheran church and my recovery community. Shay you are an amazingly beautiful woman and I will continue to follow your journey.
You are very courageous and I feel for you about the loss and your family’s inability to support you and continue to love you as a person. Churches sadly do a lot of damage. And as we can see with these ladies above in the video, there is a need to grow spiritually in this journey and that sometimes means outgrowing a church. I wish you all the love and I hope that some members can grow enough to include you back in their lives ❤
I can’t believe people would treat you that way. Oh how much that must hurt. I hope that you feel life is more meaningful now still. Sending you so much love!
I found your channel after my wife came out as transgender. I understand how isolating it can be to be a partner to someone who is transgender. Other people understand to a certain extent but it’s hard to not feel alone going through her transition. Your videos help and I look forward to trying to find trans groups in our area. Thank you for both of you sharing your experiences ❤️❤️
Thank you for this video. My wife came out as trans 3 years ago and it feels lonely as I rarely come across other women in the same situation as me, thank you for sharing this representation
I came out as trans three years ago, at 45. I can really relate to what you're saying and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for posting these videos ❤ I'm convinced that the love and acceptance you have for your spouses will spread across the world and make it a better place for all of us. Greetings from Finland. Love Theo ❤
As a member of the LGBTQ + community understanding the trans journey is still not something we hear about often. I’m so grateful to families like yours who have made it possible for our community to understand what our own people are going through. ❤
I also am from the LGBTQ+ community, I am so thankful for your videos. Share your experiences showing that it's normal tonight be who ever you are or who you feel like is your authentic self is amazing. I know that you have probably had people be rude and hateful please don't them slow your families down love is love and the love you both share with your partners is extremely beautiful. Thank you so much
@justHil_Fl @@MsJourney18 Yay, thank you both for speaking to this! 💙 I’m part of the extended abbreviation LGBTQIA +, hetero-romantic, sex-averse cis-asexual (ace), he/him. Totally agree about representation of transgender folks, and am glad to see quite a few content creators putting themselves out there, often sharing things vulnerably, kudos to them all, and Amanda and Shaye! Hope everyone has an amazing 2025! 🙂 Đức
This video should have a million views by now. No matter where you come from, how you were raised, and what you believe: EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HEAR THIS. The underlying theme is acceptance. Meet people where they are, love them, and do it all over again. Period. Thank you for giving us an amazing example of this ideal.
Amanda, I've learned so much from you and Shay over the last couple years and I'm grateful for your willingness to share and be open in the face of the often times ugly side of the YTverse. My beautiful daughter is in a transgender relationship and her incandescent happiness in finding her person has been a fulfilling thing to witness. I wish more people were willing to see past their religious beliefs and just love without judgement. I've found in her journey what on the surface is acceptance, is actually quiet, desperate internal prayer for her salvation and I don't know how to deal with that when I feel it from others. Much love to you and yours! 🌈❤
Thank you so much for sharing your journey. My wife and I have been together 18 years and married for 16 years, and I began my trans discovery four years ago. It's really inspiring to hear from you, how you've dealt with being the wife and supporting your trans wife's in their struggles and journey. I've often felt guilty for changing the dynamics of our relationship, and this helps a lot to year your sides.
I loved listening to your conversation, and am so glad you have each other for support and understanding. My daughter is trans, she first told me almost 4 years ago when she was 20. We have been so fortunate that our whole family have accepted her truth, even though some struggled to understand. The honest truth is, so did I, in the beginning. I’ve learned over the last 4 years that the abstract concept of someone coming out as trans is much, much harder to accept and understand than it is when the trans person is a loved one. My daughter may look completely different now, go by a different name, but she is essentially the same person she always was, still that little baby I carried and gave birth to. The sense of humour hasn’t changed, or the smile, though I get to see that so much more than I did before! I have come to realise that if you really love someone, the fact they are trans makes no difference to how you feel about them.
I appreciate your videos so much. I am not LDS, but from another conservative faith. I have been opening my mind to understand and listen to journeys like yours. I remember several years ago watching a video of a pastor’s family whose daughter was transgender. They shared their journey navigating their faith and loving their daughter. It really hit home for me. I love my own children so deeply. I would never abandon them no matter their journey. I have been moved in the same way by your story and the love you have for each other. I am so happy you have found friends that are sharing your experience. Someone who you can talk to like this is such a blessing.
Wow, this video is such a breath of fresh air. As a trans-woman myself being married to my wife, I deeply appreciate this interview! So thank you for this. ❤
"Forging a new path, learning new things, and unlearning many things along the way." You are seriously THE BEST... I love how full of love and acceptance you are. 💜 I found it interesting that you both touched on the moment you realized that the future you envisioned can no longer exist. As a parent of a trans man (who came out in his teens), something my support groups spoke about is how even if you support your loved one 100% and are a true ally (which I am), you still have to go through a grieving period for that fantasized future. We're all human, we all think about the future, and it's okay to feel scared about no longer knowing how that will look. I never thought about it in the context of a spouse, but of course you would go through the same thing! And how cool that once your vision of the future changes, a whole host of new things open up. 😊
This is an incredible experience, learning more about the trans community than I ever thought. I hope you continue to share the journey with us, so that we can understand your needs and what it is like to be here now with the world opening up to a reality that love is love and is more about consciousness than body parts. Thank you for sharing Amanda and Holly💕👍
Thank you. I am not trans and have struggled to understand. Your videos by far have been the best at explaining this and your love has been truly inspiring. You both are gifts to a world that seems very divided
What a beautiful and insightful video!❤ I have so much love and admiration for both of you and your journeys! Thank you, Amanda and Holly, for sharing your experiences with the world!
I have struggled for weeks. Coming up on 2 years HRT and nearly 8 years transitioning openly, this video and channel has given me so much hope. Name change, gender marker and birth certificate change in the past two years. Life truly does get better.
Subbed. Im not trans, and i dont have anyone in my life that is trans, but i am an ally. I cant understand what it feels like to be trans or have a partner who is, but i think its important for the rest of us to have a better understanding from an outsider perspective. And im sure your channel brings a lot of hope for others struggling with their gender
I loved that you brought this conversation to the table. No one will understand what this journey may be like if it's not shared. Love the Scotts and loved you bringing Holly into the conversation!!! Thank you both for sharing your experiences so we can learn more understanding and compassion.
My wife would leave me. How do I know? She told me that. Being trans is so isolating as it is. I hope all people evolve into the future and mirror these two wonderful women.
I totally get that isolation. Been there. Sending you love and strength through the aether. As to why someone might not tell a potential spouse? It's only in the last 15 years or so that trans people have been mildly more accepted by society. Before that, trans folks were hated and belittled. A man in a dress was a cheap, reliable laugh from any sitcom of the last 70 years of television. Heck, they made a whole sitcom about it starring Tom Hanks. I was raised in an conservative evangelical fundie home. There were strict gender roles and those were not to be crossed. Because of that messaging, I believed for a long, long time that no one (including my wife) would love me if I was trans. I didn't come out to her for some time after we were married. And when I did? She took it poorly. Was mad. She would use it in her list of reasons why I sucked when she would abuse me. Kept me in line and in the closet for years. I had to get to the end of the end of my rope before I could admit to myself who I really was. Please understand, concealing ourselves to even ourselves is a defense mechanism in reaction to all the anti-trans messaging in the world. It's a suboptimal solution, for sure. As trans acceptance grows, I hope that this kind of behavior will happen less, because no one will worry about acceptance and affirmation, and won't feel pressured to enter into a marriage without full disclosure.
I'm a straight Ally who considers my LGBTQ+ community my family. It's so wonderful you both were able to keep an open mind after the brainwashing of religion. ❤❤❤
Awesome video Great Scotts. The acceptance and insight you model for the world, what a gift to yourselves, your family, your community, and the larger world. Beautiful. Cheers!
In my experience, understanding myself for who I am has given me a courage I never thought possible. While I do see the complexities of acceptance experienced by my extended family and the friends who stayed after I transitioned, I think that that very challenge helps them see the social barriers we each impose on ourselves a little bit better. My greatest sense of accomplishment in all of this transition business is, as Hollie and Amanda mentioned, knowing that my children know they can be themselves and have my uncompromised love. If not for love, why does anything matter? - Amanda, Hollie. Thank you so much for sharing about your lives, your strength, your immeasurable love humanity ❤
Hi guys, I just wanted to get it off my chest. I've been following you since your channel was very small and you did mostly renovations and cool editing videos. I don't know why, but although I really liked your content, I've always felt that something was off - both of you were highly skilled, educated, but I felt that you were... performing? Too perfect to exist. Then, I saw your video that you were actually Mormon and left the church. And I don't know, I have this impression that I can finally see the real you - emotional, struggling, but also fulfilled and happy. I am also part of the LGBT+ community as nonbinary pansexual, with many friends who are also trans, so I get how hard it must be to confront with this reality. Good luck on this journey and hopefully everything will go your way!
A lot of work just for a body change, your mind is the same, I feel the same about any change to your body, obviously people think it's worth the change, good luck ❤
My spouse will be 54 tomorrow and has been struggling so much with this mostly the fear of rejection and that our children will not accept this. My feeling is life is short. Be who you are meant to be and not live with regrets
This is hard for me to understand. What I mean is that I could not imagine being in your situation. I appreciate your thoughtful dialogue about your experiences and for shining light on a different perspective. I think open dialogue is the best way to foster understanding and dispel fear.
You and your family are an inspiration to me and mine, and I appreciate every video you guys put out on this topic. Thank you for being open with your story, to let us know we aren't alone.
Amazing the similarities in journeys are as more couples share and tell their stories online. Coming out 10 years ago to my wife, we have approached this at a much slower pace. Personally I admire and I am amazed at how and quickly your spouses have been able to transition. It shows the strength of your commitment to each other. Sending love to your families for the strength and support you've shown them and yourselves.
It says so much about you two are as human beings that you were both able to be open enough to change your views on the world. Both of your families are reflections of that. I have some much love for all of you
Thank you Amanda and Holly for telling your story! I am in the exact same situation with my spouse coming out as trans. Unfortunately, some close family members were not accepting and have chosen to reject us completely, and that has caused us both great pain and intensified the feelings of isolation. I'd love an even longer form conversation with spouses, if possible. I think there are still so many topics on this that can be delved deeper if you and others are willing.
Wow such a wonderful story. I found this video while browsing this topic and so glad I did. I shared it with my friends, and subsequently had to translate some of the video to a few who don't speak English :). I think we need more stories like this in all media outlets because it's positive and wholesome! Thank you for sharing your stories with us!
You are such an amazing woman full of love and support. Your stories are inspiring mainly for your knowledge, your support for your spouse and your family.
8:32 anybody who has claimed to be a friend who doesn’t support you, has only been a friend with conditions. The two of you are amazing. Thank you for standing by your wives.
Exactly and I lost many friends coming out as pansexul and marrying a women being a women. Having trans kid and lesbian and biasexul kids. I love regardless of anybody gender weather be trans man women non binary cis women or man or gender fluid. But fell in love with my wife. Now we happy the people who claimed be my friend's are not. I have made friends through my work now
YOU HAVE A RUclips CHANNEL?!?! I’ve been following you both on Insta since I came out at Shaye was one of the girls that looked like me and gave me the confidence to come out.
Thank you ladies for all the positive stories and support. It helps to give others permission to open their hearts to the possibilities of expanding their love beyond what they have originally thought. We love and support you too.❤
So good to here positive thoughts and feelings, and fears from the other side. Your strength and the strength of your relationships and intelligence stand out here. Wishing you all the very best.
Going through any change in life is hard, having someone sharing it with you makes it so much easier. When happiness is shared it makes it 2 happinesses, when sadness shared, it becomes only half sadness. Love always win and I’m so happy that their transition was so supported and understood by these amazing wives. ❤
very useful video to see, will be coming out publicly to family in a month and there are some direct family members who are still coming to terms/denying my decision to transition.
I went on my sons field trip and one of the girls just randomly told me during lunch time that her dad was transitioning. This little girls is in the 4th grade. I honestly wonder if she thought I would be shocked. But instead I said “wow! That’s so interesting! How are you feeling about it?” She talked about some of her feelings about things. I hope I didn’t do or say anything that could hurt her. I told her that she should always talk to her parents about her feelings because they really do want to know what she feels. i also told her that I have a trans female family member and that it was an adjustment, but that I also learned that they were still the amazing person as before and I still love them the same as before. I honestly hope what I said to this sweet little girl was ok. If either of you or your spouses have advice on how to talk with kids when it’s randomly brought up like that I would appreciate it. I want to help and spread love, never make a child feel bad about it. Thanks! ❤
Wonderful to hear your stories on this!! It’s incredibly humanizing to hear Holly say how once she tried to see things from her wife’s perspective and how much Cassie was struggling to live the way society felt she had to live even though it was eating her alive. That’s how it feels for sure and I’m so appreciative Holly was willing to listen and take Cassie seriously. Thank you Holly for truly listening and trying to understand ❤
I am a brand new subsciber and love you both! You two are hilarious. I studied this topic as well in college. Our professor had us choose a controversial topic so I chose transgender. I researched and even added two famous transgender people in my Power Point presentation. They wanted my opinion and that is I don't judge. I love people for who they are. My good friend Matt born male at birth is now Madison and is one of the most awesome people I know. You both have my love and support. I am so glad I came across you. ❤
Wow. These 2 women are the most beautiful beings I’ve ever come across on the internet. While I can’t relate to their stories. Their message is so important. The world is a better place with human beings like this.
I find your path and what you ve been through IS so inspiring 🙏🏻. I m following you from France. I ve been listening to you for only 2 or 3 week... Maybe less. But apart from the gender issues you are sharing, I found that sharing your path (Hope this translation fron French is ok 😊) is opening doors to anyone who wants, and even more need, to be authentic to live. Or to say it more directly : just to live, or have their iwn live befire dying for real. So many thanks to both you and Shaye 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I think it's beautiful the way you talk about your children learning they can be authentic and in turn appreciate and understand it in others. Anyone that comments "poor kids," I just say the neglected, abused, traumatized kids are the ones that need help and there are so many of them in this world, but don't see any of that in yours. Lovely family!!! 💏
The kids of both families featured in this vid appear to be thriving. If their trans parents had continued on struggling with body dysmorphia, I wonder what effect that would have had on the kids. I’m thinking that if the parents are living true to themselves and are united, the kids will flourish.
Wow! This was just an amazing video! I'm completely overcome with emotions. The two of you explained things in such a loving way for others who need help to understand and are willing to learn. I'm not in the same situation, but I'm so thrilled to have more advocates for the LGBTQ+ community from LDS church. I feel this deep human connection with those who have broken from tradition to be authentic and loving, and what I would consider TRULY Christ like. If I were still the church going type, I would share my testimony on Fast Sunday about how strong "the spirit" was while I watched the two of you visit. 🙏 May you and your families continue to be blessed! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍
Why is there a reason to be proud because you're staying with the transwoman? Unfortunately you don't really talk about the entire experience. For instance, most women who find out that their male partner is becoming a trans woman will end the relationship for various reasons. The first one is that there is a grieving process because this person that you were with it no longer exists. The second part that needs to be revealed is that as a heterosexual woman if you decide to stay with the Trans woman, you are now faced with becoming a lesbian. If you were not lesbian prior to this or bisexual, you cannot just change your orientation just to accommodate your new spouse. One should not sacrifice their own sexual orientation just to maintain a relationship. The hormonal changes do not allow for the previous person to be available to you anymore. I'm not even mentioning the potential physical and psychological repercussions and complications here. I have personally accepted to support my spouse from a 12-year relationship into his transition. There was however a time where I needed to step away in order to accept the grieving process that I was going through. I could have denied this along with my sexual orientation and choose to remain in the relationship where I was solely a support for the other while ignoring my own needs. It's a very big sacrifice which I was not prepared to offer. However you perceive the support you are offering to your spouse, I unfortunately don't believe that everything is all Rosy and everyone's happy here. They make it sound way too easy to accept all this. I don't live in that bubble. In fact there is a word for the women who lose their partner to their transition, we are called trans widows. And by the way, the LDS church does not approve of homosexuality or bisexuality. I was hoping that this video would speak a bit more of the general reality of those who have to leave their spouse because they are transitioning. I really can't relate to this situation where everything is rainbows and unicorns.
I love the discussion about sexuality and the spectrum that one can be on. There is a lot of misconceptions of trans men only liking women or trans women only liking men. This is again where the separation of gender and sexuality exist! ❤
I’d give anything to find a wife that loves me this much. It’s such a selfless act to allow your partner to grow into whatever or whoever they want to be without guilting/shaming them into being what we want them to be.
I so appreciate your honesty. It is clear you both have wonderfully full, healthy relationships with the ones you love. Transcending societal rules to be with the one you love is the truest expression of love.
As a cis gay man seeing families take this journey is amazing. And as a cis gay man know I have your back and will always support your family no matter what.
Inspiring!! I'm trans and I had so much fear coming out to friends and family because of the dialog out there but was pleased how they all love me still! And same goes for people who don't know a trans person, they think it's all bad until they meet me and they are also pleasantly surprised they were wrong. We can all learn from each other I hope society changes more!
I recently got through reading all the comments on here, and oh my goodness, yours is the cutest!!! 💙 Big hugs to you, and wishing you all the best for 2025, Jan, stay true to yourself! 🙂 Đức, he/him
Thank you for sharing this story. Your wife is gorgeous! You're absolutely right - your story is just as imporatant as those of trans folk like myself. All the best for the rest of your journey.
I always look forward to getting a notification from you ladies!! I love that you have this beautiful friendship!! Lots of love to all of you amazing ladies!! ❤
As a trans woman myself I have every respect for you both, I do wonder how many others went through similar issues years ago when society just didn’t get it. Much as I think there’s a lot of sensationalism on some RUclips etc videos I’m glad some actual knowledge & understanding gets through ❤😊
i’m loving your channel. my partner is a trans woman (however i knew from early on plus i’m pansexual). i’m so happy for you all- love is love ❤❤❤❤❤🏳️🌈🦄🏳️⚧️
I find this so very interesting. What a hard subject for some to talk about but you ladies are amazing. You talk of attaction 😊surly if you love someone even after the changes they go through you would still find them attractive . We don’t only love part of a person we love the person inside and out. They and yourself are the same person,maybe just a tad better and happier in life.
I agree! I don’t have any experience with these feelings but I was raised to have an open heart and I love hearing these stories and seeing how happy they are despite things that could have broken them apart. Love is love and the world needs more kindness ❤
I. I'm wondering if either of you and your wives have considered having a renewal of vows ceremony with your partners as their true selves? Would it feel like walking forward in a new marriage with your wives?
I wish Amanda would have allowed her guests to speak A little bit more. I really enjoy listening to Amanda and Shay's story, but I would have liked to have heard more details about her guest and her wife's experience.
Thank you for this most wonderful, genuine and insightful video! You are amazing, so giving and loving women! Accept my virtual grateful love from my heart! ❤️
I have just found your channel and this video in particular - I'm going to send a link to my wife. She has known I am trans for 35ish of our 37 years together, I have lived a lie since I was 5 years old and finally started falling apart 10 years ago. All my family, friends and former work colleagues have been absolutely fine but the person I want acceptance from really struggles with it.
I have not transitioned because of health reasons but my spouse has accepted me and wish others the bond we share
Amazing good luck, be happy and proud been who you are. A hug for both of you
I’m very sorry, it has to be very difficult living a lie and not been able to be who you really are. You have to love THE PERSON, not loving your partner because your she has blue eyes or pretty nails or beautiful smile because everything can change in a second and you will not be that person with blue eyes or pretty nails or beautiful smile you only going to keep who you really are the person who you are in your heart that’s the way that everybody had the right to be loved
Hey! How are you now? Sending love!
I am a 70 yo transgender woman who hid it for 65 years for fear of losing my spouse of 39 years and my children. My biggest fears came true in February 2019 when they all abandonded me, and amm not allowed to visit the grandchildren. The next few years have been extremely difficult but I have created a loving community with a Reconcilling in Christ Lutheran church and my recovery community. Shay you are an amazingly beautiful woman and I will continue to follow your journey.
I am so happy and proud of you! it is amazing that you are able to live your life authentically now.
You are very courageous and I feel for you about the loss and your family’s inability to support you and continue to love you as a person. Churches sadly do a lot of damage. And as we can see with these ladies above in the video, there is a need to grow spiritually in this journey and that sometimes means outgrowing a church.
I wish you all the love and I hope that some members can grow enough to include you back in their lives ❤
I can’t believe people would treat you that way. Oh how much that must hurt. I hope that you feel life is more meaningful now still. Sending you so much love!
I am so sorry this has happened to you. Just know there are people out there who care about you and they will help you through the hard times 🏳⚧
@@PinkyLadybird thank you Pink Lady Bird
I found your channel after my wife came out as transgender. I understand how isolating it can be to be a partner to someone who is transgender. Other people understand to a certain extent but it’s hard to not feel alone going through her transition. Your videos help and I look forward to trying to find trans groups in our area. Thank you for both of you sharing your experiences ❤️❤️
Thank you for this video. My wife came out as trans 3 years ago and it feels lonely as I rarely come across other women in the same situation as me, thank you for sharing this representation
I came out as trans three years ago, at 45. I can really relate to what you're saying and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for posting these videos ❤ I'm convinced that the love and acceptance you have for your spouses will spread across the world and make it a better place for all of us. Greetings from Finland. Love Theo ❤
As a member of the LGBTQ + community understanding the trans journey is still not something we hear about often. I’m so grateful to families like yours who have made it possible for our community to understand what our own people are going through. ❤
I also am from the LGBTQ+ community, I am so thankful for your videos. Share your experiences showing that it's normal tonight be who ever you are or who you feel like is your authentic self is amazing. I know that you have probably had people be rude and hateful please don't them slow your families down love is love and the love you both share with your partners is extremely beautiful. Thank you so much
@justHil_Fl @@MsJourney18 Yay, thank you both for speaking to this! 💙 I’m part of the extended abbreviation LGBTQIA +, hetero-romantic, sex-averse cis-asexual (ace), he/him. Totally agree about representation of transgender folks, and am glad to see quite a few content creators putting themselves out there, often sharing things vulnerably, kudos to them all, and Amanda and Shaye! Hope everyone has an amazing 2025! 🙂 Đức
Culture and media brainwashes the weak.
This video should have a million views by now. No matter where you come from, how you were raised, and what you believe: EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HEAR THIS. The underlying theme is acceptance. Meet people where they are, love them, and do it all over again. Period. Thank you for giving us an amazing example of this ideal.
Amanda, I've learned so much from you and Shay over the last couple years and I'm grateful for your willingness to share and be open in the face of the often times ugly side of the YTverse. My beautiful daughter is in a transgender relationship and her incandescent happiness in finding her person has been a fulfilling thing to witness. I wish more people were willing to see past their religious beliefs and just love without judgement. I've found in her journey what on the surface is acceptance, is actually quiet, desperate internal prayer for her salvation and I don't know how to deal with that when I feel it from others. Much love to you and yours! 🌈❤
Thank you so much for sharing your journey. My wife and I have been together 18 years and married for 16 years, and I began my trans discovery four years ago. It's really inspiring to hear from you, how you've dealt with being the wife and supporting your trans wife's in their struggles and journey. I've often felt guilty for changing the dynamics of our relationship, and this helps a lot to year your sides.
I loved listening to your conversation, and am so glad you have each other for support and understanding. My daughter is trans, she first told me almost 4 years ago when she was 20. We have been so fortunate that our whole family have accepted her truth, even though some struggled to understand. The honest truth is, so did I, in the beginning. I’ve learned over the last 4 years that the abstract concept of someone coming out as trans is much, much harder to accept and understand than it is when the trans person is a loved one. My daughter may look completely different now, go by a different name, but she is essentially the same person she always was, still that little baby I carried and gave birth to. The sense of humour hasn’t changed, or the smile, though I get to see that so much more than I did before! I have come to realise that if you really love someone, the fact they are trans makes no difference to how you feel about them.
I appreciate your videos so much. I am not LDS, but from another conservative faith. I have been opening my mind to understand and listen to journeys like yours. I remember several years ago watching a video of a pastor’s family whose daughter was transgender. They shared their journey navigating their faith and loving their daughter. It really hit home for me. I love my own children so deeply. I would never abandon them no matter their journey. I have been moved in the same way by your story and the love you have for each other. I am so happy you have found friends that are sharing your experience. Someone who you can talk to like this is such a blessing.
Whats another conservative faith? Jewish?
Wow, this video is such a breath of fresh air. As a trans-woman myself being married to my wife, I deeply appreciate this interview! So thank you for this. ❤
"Forging a new path, learning new things, and unlearning many things along the way." You are seriously THE BEST... I love how full of love and acceptance you are. 💜 I found it interesting that you both touched on the moment you realized that the future you envisioned can no longer exist. As a parent of a trans man (who came out in his teens), something my support groups spoke about is how even if you support your loved one 100% and are a true ally (which I am), you still have to go through a grieving period for that fantasized future. We're all human, we all think about the future, and it's okay to feel scared about no longer knowing how that will look. I never thought about it in the context of a spouse, but of course you would go through the same thing! And how cool that once your vision of the future changes, a whole host of new things open up. 😊
Thank you so much! 💗🙏😭
This is an incredible experience, learning more about the trans community than I ever thought. I hope you continue to share the journey with us, so that we can understand your needs and what it is like to be here now with the world opening up to a reality that love is love and is more about consciousness than body parts. Thank you for sharing Amanda and Holly💕👍
Thank you. I am not trans and have struggled to understand. Your videos by far have been the best at explaining this and your love has been truly inspiring. You both are gifts to a world that seems very divided
What a beautiful and insightful video!❤ I have so much love and admiration for both of you and your journeys! Thank you, Amanda and Holly, for sharing your experiences with the world!
I have struggled for weeks. Coming up on 2 years HRT and nearly 8 years transitioning openly, this video and channel has given me so much hope. Name change, gender marker and birth certificate change in the past two years. Life truly does get better.
You’re beautiful and loved! ❤
@@ireallylovecilantrothank you ❤🥹
Subbed. Im not trans, and i dont have anyone in my life that is trans, but i am an ally. I cant understand what it feels like to be trans or have a partner who is, but i think its important for the rest of us to have a better understanding from an outsider perspective. And im sure your channel brings a lot of hope for others struggling with their gender
This is such a lovely comment and I wish more people were open to learn like you!
@gameplaygirl - I really appreciate your response and wish I could meet you.
I loved that you brought this conversation to the table. No one will understand what this journey may be like if it's not shared. Love the Scotts and loved you bringing Holly into the conversation!!! Thank you both for sharing your experiences so we can learn more understanding and compassion.
Thank you for another great video, Amanda. It was a pleasure to be introduced to Holly & Cassie. I wish them - & you & Shaye - the very best 😊.
I'm so proud of both of you and your beautiful wives. ❤❤ (58 yr old cis gender woman here)
My wife would leave me. How do I know? She told me that. Being trans is so isolating as it is. I hope all people evolve into the future and mirror these two wonderful women.
I hope you can realize you are worth someone who accepts you no matter what
Why get married if you're trans and weren't truthful to her?
I totally get that isolation. Been there. Sending you love and strength through the aether.
As to why someone might not tell a potential spouse? It's only in the last 15 years or so that trans people have been mildly more accepted by society. Before that, trans folks were hated and belittled. A man in a dress was a cheap, reliable laugh from any sitcom of the last 70 years of television. Heck, they made a whole sitcom about it starring Tom Hanks. I was raised in an conservative evangelical fundie home. There were strict gender roles and those were not to be crossed. Because of that messaging, I believed for a long, long time that no one (including my wife) would love me if I was trans. I didn't come out to her for some time after we were married. And when I did? She took it poorly. Was mad. She would use it in her list of reasons why I sucked when she would abuse me. Kept me in line and in the closet for years. I had to get to the end of the end of my rope before I could admit to myself who I really was.
Please understand, concealing ourselves to even ourselves is a defense mechanism in reaction to all the anti-trans messaging in the world. It's a suboptimal solution, for sure. As trans acceptance grows, I hope that this kind of behavior will happen less, because no one will worry about acceptance and affirmation, and won't feel pressured to enter into a marriage without full disclosure.
I'm a straight Ally who considers my LGBTQ+ community my family. It's so wonderful you both were able to keep an open mind after the brainwashing of religion. ❤❤❤
Awesome video Great Scotts. The acceptance and insight you model for the world, what a gift to yourselves, your family, your community, and the larger world. Beautiful. Cheers!
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing your experience! Thats means so much for TGs and their supporters
I'm a former Jehovah's Witness and a Non Binary person, thank you for posting this video, it truly helps so many people 😀
Jah will always love you, he don't leave us even when we leave him because he loves us unconditionally
So what happens when Armageddon comes, will Jehovah remember you
@@eleahjacobson5044👀👁️👀👁️ Huh, that’s strange… I can’t find anyone who asked.
In my experience, understanding myself for who I am has given me a courage I never thought possible. While I do see the complexities of acceptance experienced by my extended family and the friends who stayed after I transitioned, I think that that very challenge helps them see the social barriers we each impose on ourselves a little bit better. My greatest sense of accomplishment in all of this transition business is, as Hollie and Amanda mentioned, knowing that my children know they can be themselves and have my uncompromised love. If not for love, why does anything matter? - Amanda, Hollie. Thank you so much for sharing about your lives, your strength, your immeasurable love humanity ❤
This is so beautiful. You both have expressed yourselves so well. Thank you so much for your vulnerability.
I’m so proud of you, cousin! Thank you both for sharing your stories
Hi guys, I just wanted to get it off my chest. I've been following you since your channel was very small and you did mostly renovations and cool editing videos. I don't know why, but although I really liked your content, I've always felt that something was off - both of you were highly skilled, educated, but I felt that you were... performing? Too perfect to exist. Then, I saw your video that you were actually Mormon and left the church. And I don't know, I have this impression that I can finally see the real you - emotional, struggling, but also fulfilled and happy. I am also part of the LGBT+ community as nonbinary pansexual, with many friends who are also trans, so I get how hard it must be to confront with this reality. Good luck on this journey and hopefully everything will go your way!
Thank you for your kind comment. 🥰
A lot of work just for a body change, your mind is the same, I feel the same about any change to your body, obviously people think it's worth the change, good luck ❤
My spouse will be 54 tomorrow and has been struggling so much with this mostly the fear of rejection and that our children will not accept this. My feeling is life is short. Be who you are meant to be and not live with regrets
Thank you so much for sharing your journeys. My wife came out last year and I feel so relieved knowing I’m not alone in this experience ❤️
This is hard for me to understand. What I mean is that I could not imagine being in your situation. I appreciate your thoughtful dialogue about your experiences and for shining light on a different perspective. I think open dialogue is the best way to foster understanding and dispel fear.
I am so proud of both of you for being supportive wives. The world needs more people like you.
You and your family are an inspiration to me and mine, and I appreciate every video you guys put out on this topic. Thank you for being open with your story, to let us know we aren't alone.
Amazing the similarities in journeys are as more couples share and tell their stories online. Coming out 10 years ago to my wife, we have approached this at a much slower pace. Personally I admire and I am amazed at how and quickly your spouses have been able to transition. It shows the strength of your commitment to each other. Sending love to your families for the strength and support you've shown them and yourselves.
Yes, your stories are important too!! Loved this insight from both of you!
Such a fantastic video! All of your videos have been an inspiration for me as I have started my journey over the last several months. ❤
It says so much about you two are as human beings that you were both able to be open enough to change your views on the world. Both of your families are reflections of that. I have some much love for all of you
Thank you Amanda and Holly for telling your story! I am in the exact same situation with my spouse coming out as trans. Unfortunately, some close family members were not accepting and have chosen to reject us completely, and that has caused us both great pain and intensified the feelings of isolation. I'd love an even longer form conversation with spouses, if possible. I think there are still so many topics on this that can be delved deeper if you and others are willing.
This is lovely and you both are so accepting and loving! Your wives are very lucky they found you both!
Wow such a wonderful story. I found this video while browsing this topic and so glad I did. I shared it with my friends, and subsequently had to translate some of the video to a few who don't speak English :). I think we need more stories like this in all media outlets because it's positive and wholesome! Thank you for sharing your stories with us!
You are such an amazing woman full of love and support. Your stories are inspiring mainly for your knowledge, your support for your spouse and your family.
8:32 anybody who has claimed to be a friend who doesn’t support you, has only been a friend with conditions.
The two of you are amazing. Thank you for standing by your wives.
Exactly and I lost many friends coming out as pansexul and marrying a women being a women. Having trans kid and lesbian and biasexul kids. I love regardless of anybody gender weather be trans man women non binary cis women or man or gender fluid. But fell in love with my wife. Now we happy the people who claimed be my friend's are not. I have made friends through my work now
YOU HAVE A RUclips CHANNEL?!?! I’ve been following you both on Insta since I came out at Shaye was one of the girls that looked like me and gave me the confidence to come out.
Thank you ladies for all the positive stories and support. It helps to give others permission to open their hearts to the possibilities of expanding their love beyond what they have originally thought. We love and support you too.❤
So good to here positive thoughts and feelings, and fears from the other side. Your strength and the strength of your relationships and intelligence stand out here. Wishing you all the very best.
Amanda, you are such a sweet soul with the biggest heart. So glad you both made it work and are helping others who feel so alone. ❤❤
Going through any change in life is hard, having someone sharing it with you makes it so much easier. When happiness is shared it makes it 2 happinesses, when sadness shared, it becomes only half sadness. Love always win and I’m so happy that their transition was so supported and understood by these amazing wives. ❤
very useful video to see, will be coming out publicly to family in a month and there are some direct family members who are still coming to terms/denying my decision to transition.
Thank you for making videos. It’s so so so important to see happy families and trans women being loved and supported.
I went on my sons field trip and one of the girls just randomly told me during lunch time that her dad was transitioning. This little girls is in the 4th grade. I honestly wonder if she thought I would be shocked. But instead I said “wow! That’s so interesting! How are you feeling about it?” She talked about some of her feelings about things. I hope I didn’t do or say anything that could hurt her. I told her that she should always talk to her parents about her feelings because they really do want to know what she feels. i also told her that I have a trans female family member and that it was an adjustment, but that I also learned that they were still the amazing person as before and I still love them the same as before.
I honestly hope what I said to this sweet little girl was ok. If either of you or your spouses have advice on how to talk with kids when it’s randomly brought up like that I would appreciate it. I want to help and spread love, never make a child feel bad about it.
Thanks! ❤
Wonderful to hear your stories on this!! It’s incredibly humanizing to hear Holly say how once she tried to see things from her wife’s perspective and how much Cassie was struggling to live the way society felt she had to live even though it was eating her alive. That’s how it feels for sure and I’m so appreciative Holly was willing to listen and take Cassie seriously. Thank you Holly for truly listening and trying to understand ❤
I am a brand new subsciber and love you both! You two are hilarious. I studied this topic as well in college. Our professor had us choose a controversial topic so I chose transgender. I researched and even added two famous transgender people in my Power Point presentation. They wanted my opinion and that is I don't judge. I love people for who they are. My good friend Matt born male at birth is now Madison and is one of the most awesome people I know. You both have my love and support. I am so glad I came across you. ❤
Wow. These 2 women are the most beautiful beings I’ve ever come across on the internet. While I can’t relate to their stories. Their message is so important. The world is a better place with human beings like this.
I find your path and what you ve been through IS so inspiring 🙏🏻. I m following you from France. I ve been listening to you for only 2 or 3 week... Maybe less. But apart from the gender issues you are sharing, I found that sharing your path (Hope this translation fron French is ok 😊) is opening doors to anyone who wants, and even more need, to be authentic to live. Or to say it more directly : just to live, or have their iwn live befire dying for real. So many thanks to both you and Shaye 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Beautifully crafted video as always! ❤️
I think it's beautiful the way you talk about your children learning they can be authentic and in turn appreciate and understand it in others. Anyone that comments "poor kids," I just say the neglected, abused, traumatized kids are the ones that need help and there are so many of them in this world, but don't see any of that in yours. Lovely family!!! 💏
The kids of both families featured in this vid appear to be thriving. If their trans parents had continued on struggling with body dysmorphia, I wonder what effect that would have had on the kids. I’m thinking that if the parents are living true to themselves and are united, the kids will flourish.
Wow! This was just an amazing video! I'm completely overcome with emotions. The two of you explained things in such a loving way for others who need help to understand and are willing to learn. I'm not in the same situation, but I'm so thrilled to have more advocates for the LGBTQ+ community from LDS church. I feel this deep human connection with those who have broken from tradition to be authentic and loving, and what I would consider TRULY Christ like. If I were still the church going type, I would share my testimony on Fast Sunday about how strong "the spirit" was while I watched the two of you visit. 🙏 May you and your families continue to be blessed! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍
What happened to all your other videos? I loved looking at your home transformations.
I had to go look… they have taken all their videos down except the most recent ones
Why is there a reason to be proud because you're staying with the transwoman? Unfortunately you don't really talk about the entire experience. For instance, most women who find out that their male partner is becoming a trans woman will end the relationship for various reasons. The first one is that there is a grieving process because this person that you were with it no longer exists. The second part that needs to be revealed is that as a heterosexual woman if you decide to stay with the Trans woman, you are now faced with becoming a lesbian. If you were not lesbian prior to this or bisexual, you cannot just change your orientation just to accommodate your new spouse. One should not sacrifice their own sexual orientation just to maintain a relationship. The hormonal changes do not allow for the previous person to be available to you anymore. I'm not even mentioning the potential physical and psychological repercussions and complications here. I have personally accepted to support my spouse from a 12-year relationship into his transition. There was however a time where I needed to step away in order to accept the grieving process that I was going through. I could have denied this along with my sexual orientation and choose to remain in the relationship where I was solely a support for the other while ignoring my own needs. It's a very big sacrifice which I was not prepared to offer. However you perceive the support you are offering to your spouse, I unfortunately don't believe that everything is all Rosy and everyone's happy here. They make it sound way too easy to accept all this. I don't live in that bubble. In fact there is a word for the women who lose their partner to their transition, we are called trans widows. And by the way, the LDS church does not approve of homosexuality or bisexuality. I was hoping that this video would speak a bit more of the general reality of those who have to leave their spouse because they are transitioning. I really can't relate to this situation where everything is rainbows and unicorns.
They are talking about their experiences not others
Such a beautiful video…..❤❤ Wishing both your families love and peace.❤❤
Thank you for sharing your stories! Very amazing to see these videos
I love the discussion about sexuality and the spectrum that one can be on. There is a lot of misconceptions of trans men only liking women or trans women only liking men. This is again where the separation of gender and sexuality exist! ❤
I’d give anything to find a wife that loves me this much. It’s such a selfless act to allow your partner to grow into whatever or whoever they want to be without guilting/shaming them into being what we want them to be.
I so appreciate your honesty. It is clear you both have wonderfully full, healthy relationships with the ones you love. Transcending societal rules to be with the one you love is the truest expression of love.
As a cis gay man seeing families take this journey is amazing. And as a cis gay man know I have your back and will always support your family no matter what.
It's always good to see your videos,hearing your story and seeing all the love.
Love this conversation! Thank you for sharing your journeys and insights. 🩷🩷
I’m so happy for you guys to have an awesome transition as a family.
Two very incredible supportive and loving women. I have learned so much from this and your chanel.
Inspiring!!
I'm trans and I had so much fear coming out to friends and family because of the dialog out there but was pleased how they all love me still!
And same goes for people who don't know a trans person, they think it's all bad until they meet me and they are also pleasantly surprised they were wrong.
We can all learn from each other I hope society changes more!
You are loved! ❤
@@ireallylovecilantro awh 😊 so nice
You both are so beautiful on the inside and out. GREAT VIDEO!!!
Thank you so much for this content. it's so encouraging and empowering especially the discussion about children who have a trans parent.
This is so endearing! ❤ As a trans woman myself, my partner stayed with me too and married me after transition
this is so beautiful.. listening to that was like having my soul hugged. i wish you all as much happiness as there could be and more)
I recently got through reading all the comments on here, and oh my goodness, yours is the cutest!!! 💙 Big hugs to you, and wishing you all the best for 2025, Jan, stay true to yourself! 🙂 Đức, he/him
I'm so grateful for you two and your beautiful families. You really show the world what love is.
Thank you for sharing this story. Your wife is gorgeous!
You're absolutely right - your story is just as imporatant as those of trans folk like myself. All the best for the rest of your journey.
When I’ve seen your latest posts and videos etc I think it’s amazing how much you two look alike!! So cute!!! 💕
I always look forward to getting a notification from you ladies!! I love that you have this beautiful friendship!! Lots of love to all of you amazing ladies!! ❤
I so appreciate you two sharing your stories. It is refreshing to see that love does win
4 beautiful humans + 7 beautiful kiddos= 2 beautiful couples AND 2 beautiful, accepting, loving families. Love you all!!! ❤❤🌈🌈
Can i just say you ladies are truly amazing. The love you have is beautiful ❤
As a trans woman myself I have every respect for you both, I do wonder how many others went through similar issues years ago when society just didn’t get it. Much as I think there’s a lot of sensationalism on some RUclips etc videos I’m glad some actual knowledge & understanding gets through ❤😊
Thank you for educating us all. How wonderful your spouses have you beautiful, intelligent women to love and support them. Bon voyage all of you! ❤
What a beautiful video. Thank you both for sharing your experiences.
I just can’t help but wonder if you both planned on having your outfits match the couch?
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i’m loving your channel. my partner is a trans woman (however i knew from early on plus i’m pansexual). i’m so happy for you all- love is love ❤❤❤❤❤🏳️🌈🦄🏳️⚧️
I was curious how they have intimacy ?as normal man and woman ?or have they had fully lower surgery ??
Insightful dialogue, thanks for sharing
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, feelings, and your journeys with us. ❤
I find this so very interesting. What a hard subject for some to talk about but you ladies are amazing. You talk of attaction 😊surly if you love someone even after the changes they go through you would still find them attractive . We don’t only love part of a person we love the person inside and out. They and yourself are the same person,maybe just a tad better and happier in life.
I love this. Thank you for sharing these experiences. It definitely helps me to open my mind more and understand a bit more. ❤❤
I agree! I don’t have any experience with these feelings but I was raised to have an open heart and I love hearing these stories and seeing how happy they are despite things that could have broken them apart. Love is love and the world needs more kindness ❤
Are you both attracted physically to your spouses in the same way you were before they transitioned?
I. I'm wondering if either of you and your wives have considered having a renewal of vows ceremony with your partners as their true selves? Would it feel like walking forward in a new marriage with your wives?
I wish Amanda would have allowed her guests to speak A little bit more. I really enjoy listening to Amanda and Shay's story, but I would have liked to have heard more details about her guest and her wife's experience.
Thank you for this most wonderful, genuine and insightful video! You are amazing, so giving and loving women! Accept my virtual grateful love from my heart! ❤️
Beautiful interview❤
This is so beautiful! Hearing the spouses point of view is so important! We all need a support system🫶🏻
I came to my boyfriend as trans some months ago, and I cannot start to express how lucky I am about him accepting and loving me regardless.