You go to a lot of work for us. Thanks. I am now more content with my 12b. For a while there I was coveting your Del Quadro. :-) My ear is not trained enough to tell the difference.
Very close in sound, aren't they? The DQ is a bit easier to play, but the tone is so, so similar! The DQ seems to 'spread' the sound a bit more, more like a flugel, which is what one gets with the larger bell. If anything, the 12B seems darker - primarily because with the smaller bell it's a more focused sound. But all in all, they are very similar in sound. :) As always, thanks for commenting.
Hi Jonathan, both are very nice sounding horns. Both also ‘sound like you’, as we all have a certain tonal picture that results from our playing. It was cool to hear them with the different MPs too. It seems like the DelQ May be more forgiving and seems to speak a tad easier. The Conn seems to be a bit tighter on slotting. Does the Conn feel tighter in blow, because it seems that way as I listen to you. I presume the MP gap could also cause that. Thx for posting. I am a huge fan of copper / red brass belled trumpets! I love the warmer pallet and overtones.
I've always leaned toward a dark sound, I think. When I've played really light, bright horns (like the lovely CarolBrass 7770 I demoed a few months back), I had some very positive comments. One guys said, 'Your best sound; don't let that horn get away from you'. I think that's probably because I temper the lighter bell with my softer blow, so it's not a shrill sound. A power player could probably knock a wall out with the 7770. To your comments; you have a very astute ear. :) The DQ is SO easy to play, I actually spent a few hours on the 12B the day before I recorded the vid to get re-acclimated to it. The DQ is one of the easiest horns to play I've had. When I first got it, I was overblowing it; fearing the large bell, I was actually pushing it far too hard. When I finally relaxed, I was amazed at the tone production. I wonder how many hours Mike Del Quadro spent honing the Ambassador body and valves? The valves are a dream; and I imagine he made sure no solder blobs were present and that the bell had a clean tie-in to the body. It's just a gem to play. And I can do an F above high C with it, too. That's my max; it's just not pretty enough to record. Strange that I missed the G just above the staff with both horns, isn't it? :) Part of that is that my chops were a bit weary from the last few days practice, and part of it is that I've played the huge Reeves C2J quite a bit; when I get a shallow piece in (my last mouthpiece), it feels like I'm blowing into a dime. :) Again, Blaine; you have a very good ear. Great comments; very accurate. And I'm with you regarding the copper bell(s); they are special. Another horn I love is my Olds Special cornet; just the bronze tip adds something special to a horn. :)
Hi Jonathan. I greatly appreciate your reviews of vintage trumpets. I am looking at 2 used trumpets that I won't be able to evaluate in person. A Conn 12B Coprion and a Buffet Crampon Paris. Trumpets are such a personal choice! Condition & price being equal, which horn would you choose? Thanks! I am in my 60's and have been playing since I was 5. :) -Perry-
Perry; Greetings. All things being equal, I'd probably take the Coprion. I've had two and they were both nice players. I also had a Buffet Crampon - which was a very nice horn. It was a fine player and very well made, but to me it seemed 'stiff'. Some horns are just hard for me to play, the Crampon was one of them. It was SO well made though. Both nice models though. The Buffet would probably fit better with more legit playing. Perry, do let me know which one you choose, ok? Good luck and best wishes! :)
@@JonathanMilam1 Thank you so much for the reply! There is also a York Custom Model in the running now. They appear to be a stencil of the Blessing Super Artist. The one I am looking at is from 1951 and in very nice condition. I will let you know what happens. :)
No; I have never had an Ambassador trumpet. I've tried recently to pick one up for travel: I've heard they're built like a tank. :) But I haven't gotten one yet. The Del Quadro in this vid had the body of an Ambassador, but the bell was a custom copper piece. Fantastic player, too; the Del Quadro horn ROCKS!!!!! :)
You go to a lot of work for us. Thanks. I am now more content with my 12b. For a while there I was coveting your Del Quadro. :-) My ear is not trained enough to tell the difference.
Very close in sound, aren't they? The DQ is a bit easier to play, but the tone is so, so similar! The DQ seems to 'spread' the sound a bit more, more like a flugel, which is what one gets with the larger bell. If anything, the 12B seems darker - primarily because with the smaller bell it's a more focused sound. But all in all, they are very similar in sound. :) As always, thanks for commenting.
Hi Jonathan, both are very nice sounding horns. Both also ‘sound like you’, as we all have a certain tonal picture that results from our playing. It was cool to hear them with the different MPs too. It seems like the DelQ May be more forgiving and seems to speak a tad easier. The Conn seems to be a bit tighter on slotting. Does the Conn feel tighter in blow, because it seems that way as I listen to you. I presume the MP gap could also cause that. Thx for posting. I am a huge fan of copper / red brass belled trumpets! I love the warmer pallet and overtones.
I've always leaned toward a dark sound, I think. When I've played really light, bright horns (like the lovely CarolBrass 7770 I demoed a few months back), I had some very positive comments. One guys said, 'Your best sound; don't let that horn get away from you'. I think that's probably because I temper the lighter bell with my softer blow, so it's not a shrill sound. A power player could probably knock a wall out with the 7770. To your comments; you have a very astute ear. :) The DQ is SO easy to play, I actually spent a few hours on the 12B the day before I recorded the vid to get re-acclimated to it. The DQ is one of the easiest horns to play I've had. When I first got it, I was overblowing it; fearing the large bell, I was actually pushing it far too hard. When I finally relaxed, I was amazed at the tone production. I wonder how many hours Mike Del Quadro spent honing the Ambassador body and valves? The valves are a dream; and I imagine he made sure no solder blobs were present and that the bell had a clean tie-in to the body. It's just a gem to play. And I can do an F above high C with it, too. That's my max; it's just not pretty enough to record. Strange that I missed the G just above the staff with both horns, isn't it? :) Part of that is that my chops were a bit weary from the last few days practice, and part of it is that I've played the huge Reeves C2J quite a bit; when I get a shallow piece in (my last mouthpiece), it feels like I'm blowing into a dime. :) Again, Blaine; you have a very good ear. Great comments; very accurate. And I'm with you regarding the copper bell(s); they are special. Another horn I love is my Olds Special cornet; just the bronze tip adds something special to a horn. :)
Those cooper bells... Has a very nice sound... I think i'm going to try get one coming soon!!! Blessings from Lima Perú!!!!!
Pablo; a nice copper bell is a really lovely thing to have. :) Always great to hear from you! :)
Hi Jonathan. I greatly appreciate your reviews of vintage trumpets. I am looking at 2 used trumpets that I won't be able to evaluate in person. A Conn 12B Coprion and a Buffet Crampon Paris. Trumpets are such a personal choice! Condition & price being equal, which horn would you choose? Thanks! I am in my 60's and have been playing since I was 5. :) -Perry-
Perry; Greetings. All things being equal, I'd probably take the Coprion. I've had two and they were both nice players. I also had a Buffet Crampon - which was a very nice horn. It was a fine player and very well made, but to me it seemed 'stiff'. Some horns are just hard for me to play, the Crampon was one of them. It was SO well made though. Both nice models though. The Buffet would probably fit better with more legit playing. Perry, do let me know which one you choose, ok? Good luck and best wishes! :)
@@JonathanMilam1 Thank you so much for the reply! There is also a York Custom Model in the running now. They appear to be a stencil of the Blessing Super Artist. The one I am looking at is from 1951 and in very nice condition. I will let you know what happens. :)
Johnathan have you ever done a review on an Olds ambassador trumpet?
No; I have never had an Ambassador trumpet. I've tried recently to pick one up for travel: I've heard they're built like a tank. :) But I haven't gotten one yet. The Del Quadro in this vid had the body of an Ambassador, but the bell was a custom copper piece. Fantastic player, too; the Del Quadro horn ROCKS!!!!! :)