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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @heartofthekeys
    @heartofthekeys  3 года назад +85

    Happy Halloween everyone! Instead of a scary costume I thought it's time for a topic that seems to scare many people - TRILLS :P Do you have problems with trills? What helps you to overcome the problems? Share it in the comments!

    • @ckchang-wg2lw
      @ckchang-wg2lw 3 года назад +1

      Happy Halloween

    • @lcmurillo1033
      @lcmurillo1033 3 года назад

      Happy Halloween, what has always helped to play trills is hand positioning, relaxed hand and for long trills it helps a lot to use your wrist

    • @theroninpianist4443
      @theroninpianist4443 3 года назад +3

      "Chill it's just a trill" You are right that'll look good on a shirt 😂

    • @danisuparmono5326
      @danisuparmono5326 3 года назад +1

      finally a good thrill tutorial :) Thank you!

    • @funkyguy99
      @funkyguy99 3 года назад +1

      One tutorial video on trills is not enough. How bout a trillogy?!

  • @alizamaniyan960
    @alizamaniyan960 2 года назад +193

    Medical student here. So long story short, 2 and 3 have the same nerve. But 2 and 4 have different nerves. That’s why when you use 2 and 3, your finger gets stock. Because while your 2nd finger wants to get up the 3rd is getting order to go down. So 2nd goes down with it again. But in case of 2 and 4 you wont face the same problem. Because one nerve is responsible for lifting and another nerve is responsible for pressing the key. Separate pathways = no interference 😁👍🏼

    • @isaacgober1128
      @isaacgober1128 Год назад +1

      And I'm assuming 4 and 5 have the same main nerve?

    • @pianotime8652
      @pianotime8652 Год назад +4

      No, 4 and 5 share same tendon. They basically tied together. That's why it takes an extra effort to move them especially 4th

    • @riyuval
      @riyuval Год назад

      huh thats interesting, do you know why 2 and 3 are easier for me? 2 and 4 is so much slower and its hard for me to trill fast, and my fingers get tired after a while, rather if i use 2 and 3, i can trill like a machine gun.
      i butterfly click in games i play, so may i be used to it or am i just built weird?
      i dont see how you could get used to it if it has to do with if its the same/different nerve

    • @riyuval
      @riyuval Год назад

      oh, nevermind i watched the video 😭

    • @lilihe6333
      @lilihe6333 9 месяцев назад

      Oh my gosh!! It helped to much! Thank you 👍

  • @SeaDrive300
    @SeaDrive300 3 года назад +157

    I'm a beginner, so it will be quite a while before I have to deal with trills, but when I do, I'll remember... "Chill, it's just a trill"! Thanks, Annique! :-)

    • @SergieRachmaninoff
      @SergieRachmaninoff 3 года назад +7

      Trills aren't as far away as you may think. Have a little practise now, and it'll pay off when you see them in the near future.

    • @pierfrancescopeperoni
      @pierfrancescopeperoni 3 года назад +2

      Nah, you can start now.

    • @rachmusic9873
      @rachmusic9873 3 года назад

      You’ve got this💪👍

    • @Bozzigmupp
      @Bozzigmupp 3 года назад

      @@SergieRachmaninoff Isn’t trills easy

    • @stephantrzonnek1720
      @stephantrzonnek1720 3 года назад

      @@Bozzigmupp depends - on a double bass, I find it hard - at least if you have to use the 5th finger ;-)

  • @edgarsnake2857
    @edgarsnake2857 8 месяцев назад

    I'm an intermediate player and I have been amazed at how much varying info on trills is out there. And, all from terrific pianists. One says use only your fingers, one says use only your wrists, one says a combo of the two, hold your wrist high, hold it low, and on and on. Some use every finger combination, some use just a few. All that being said, I appreciate your approach.

  • @katarinajavorska
    @katarinajavorska 3 года назад +27

    I was never really good in trills, so this video helped me a lot, thank you.

  • @pablov1973
    @pablov1973 3 года назад +22

    Why didn't I have you as a piano teacher, my life would have been considerably less frustrating.

  • @agneslau1698
    @agneslau1698 3 года назад +6

    Hello from Hong Kong. I must say your videos about posture have helped me a lot. I’m an adult beginner to learn piano. But I believe it’s never too late 🤭

  • @aenema22
    @aenema22 Год назад +4

    Thank you for this! I've been working on Bach BWV 645 and struggling with the trills. After watching your tutorial my playing has improved!

  • @wonderfalls2
    @wonderfalls2 3 года назад +14

    Thank you Annique! I'm working on Mozart's famous Sonata in C KV 545 and these tips have helped me a lot already. Especially, moving to the heart of the key!

  • @bahriamir
    @bahriamir 3 года назад +4

    Finally someone did a good tutorial for trills. Thank you.

  • @gototcm
    @gototcm 2 года назад +13

    Wow. Been trying for years to use the 4-5 finger combination and I thought I really sucked at this and always reverted to the 1-2. This was very helpful. You are a beautiful teacher.

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 2 года назад +1

      I cannot get over how beautiful she is too, even though i am just here for improving my playing, but i found it actually helps me trust in her advice and apply it more.

  • @pretzelkch8322
    @pretzelkch8322 3 года назад +38

    "Physics not magic"
    Godowsky: hold my right hand (while I play an entire etude with my left)

  • @DariusSarrafi
    @DariusSarrafi 3 года назад +8

    Good stuff! I also find that super relaxing my wrists and rotating it during a trill (especially a fast one) and keeping the finger weight into the keys (amount dictated by degree of loudness) relaxes the fingers, allows me to sustain the trill indefinitely and prevents fatigue!

  • @jpdj2715
    @jpdj2715 3 года назад

    I've never been scared of your trills. They're beautiful.

  • @rainbowfox1934
    @rainbowfox1934 11 месяцев назад

    Very detailed. If you want to play well and fast, these details make all the difference in the amount of practice and the results.

  • @SeanMillea
    @SeanMillea Год назад

    awesome! learning sonata 16 and struggling with the trill in the fourth bar. this was helpful

  • @tombufford8659
    @tombufford8659 2 года назад +1

    I've been watching a few of these and hope to reach my piano soon. Very different from music lessons and I am getting used to the chat. Thank you .

  • @johnserpo9267
    @johnserpo9267 3 года назад +43

    I'd like to see you play the trills in Chopin's Nocturne Op. 55 no. 2, it's an extended trills that also requires the little finger to play the melody.

    • @rachmusic9873
      @rachmusic9873 3 года назад +2

      Probably my favorite nocturne at the moment

  • @laszlodezso3599
    @laszlodezso3599 3 года назад +1

    Get well, Annique & Thanks for the video!!!

  • @disienna
    @disienna Год назад

    Finding this at the perfect. This is 2 from you today that have moved my brain forward. Thank you.

  • @lasteclasnegras
    @lasteclasnegras 3 года назад +3

    I really would see a whole hour masterclass of fingerings from you. I really learn a lot. Love you so much :)

  • @nathanreiber6819
    @nathanreiber6819 Год назад +1

    yours is the first video that actually provides any detail regarding technique. Other videos basically just explain what a trill and demonstrate it. Thank you so much. It's really helping.

  • @peterneerincx23
    @peterneerincx23 3 года назад

    I'm so happy with your advice: "alway try to avoid the use of the your fourth vinger". I have a crushed fourth finger on my right hand. It has been broken like 12 times during a very painful accident. As result it is curved, it has the same length as my pinky and I can't stretch it perfectly. But I can use it when I have to during piano playing, it is verry strong en free of pain. I'm just so happy that I crushed my fourth vinger and an other one 😁

  • @Likeafoxow
    @Likeafoxow 3 года назад

    I've been playing most my life and I'm just learning this. Whaaaa. Thank you so much for such insightful info!

  • @jsc22
    @jsc22 3 года назад +3

    The middle finger directed off camera made me bust out laughing. Great video, thank you.

  • @saflanix
    @saflanix 3 года назад +1

    I have never played trills clearly so thank you sooo much for this🥰

  • @OneStepToday
    @OneStepToday Год назад

    I searched for trill practice after watching Lang Lang Lesson 4 video in which he flawlessly trills with every pair of fingers. So we can say not everyone can do it except few insanely special people like him. As a beginner, my left hand fingers are very slow n weak.

  • @bumblebee58134
    @bumblebee58134 2 года назад

    OMG, I’ve been playing piano for quite a long time now, and I often had this problem playing chords/intervals in left hand: I had kind of a latency in one of the notes sometimes.
    And now I tried playing a piece where I had this issue(playing C+E flat in left hand, C often seemed a bit “late”, I just couldn’t seem to play them evenly, or it required huge concentration), so I tried moving finger on C to the bottom of the key, and it fixed it!😱😱😱 It actually makes perfect sense since I use the same pressure on both fingers, but with my previous way of playing it required different pressure in each finger while playing the interval
    Kudos to Annique for saving my playing!🙃

  • @wavynocturne
    @wavynocturne 3 года назад +2

    Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that 1 and 2 trill the 1st gets stuck in the keys, I've been using 2 and 3 for trills in my right hand mainly because I'm not right hand dominant

  • @gabrielstoica.official
    @gabrielstoica.official 8 месяцев назад

    you solved one of my biggest problems.. thank you very much😅

  • @petersnell3128
    @petersnell3128 Год назад

    Wow wow wow!!!! Now I know where my trilling problem hails from. Lol. I was a 2&3 guy until I came across this video, then I changed to 1&4. It was like magic... I'm currently working on Mozart's Sonata in b flat K. 570 and for that, at least, 1&4 work better than fingers 2&3. Thank you for this gem!!!

  • @ChristianJoannes
    @ChristianJoannes 2 года назад

    Brillant ! You are 100% right . And no matter how many hours you train 4/5 or 3/4 there is no way to play prolonged regular trill can performed fast with these couple of fingers. You can train finger independence, but ergonomics can’t be neither improved nor changes . There are tons of useless exercises promising false results such as 4/5 trills , even worse and stupid are the exercises that aim to develop finger strength given the only thing that move a finger is a tendon not a muscle and any bodybuilders knows that unfortunately you cannot train your tendons to make them stronger no matter what you do !

  • @pascalp.
    @pascalp. 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for the video. Take care Annique ! Hope you're going better

  • @michalbouda5944
    @michalbouda5944 Год назад

    Hello, I just finished learning Bach prelude BWW 855 and there's a part in which you actually have to trill with 4 and 5, but nice and educative video ❤️

  • @monikasloan9439
    @monikasloan9439 4 месяца назад

    Amazing! Can’t wait to practice this. Thank you!

  • @maternalheart66
    @maternalheart66 3 года назад

    Okay my mind was blown when you talked about trills in the middle of the keyboard haha.

  • @PianoMan333
    @PianoMan333 3 года назад +1

    What also helps for me is to also rotate the wrist a bit. So don't use only fingers but also your wrist

  • @brucecrane9605
    @brucecrane9605 3 года назад +2

    Very well done. As usual it was so helpful. Merci beacoup

  • @rogeralleyne9257
    @rogeralleyne9257 2 года назад +1

    Love your channel & the freedom of playing that you promote!!👍👍👍

  • @djtomt
    @djtomt 3 месяца назад

    This is extremely helpful!! Thank you so much for this video!

  • @Pingoping
    @Pingoping 3 года назад

    Waldstein 3rd movement blew my mind when I watched it for the first time (with sheets)

  • @inigodiazderabago9254
    @inigodiazderabago9254 3 года назад +24

    Since we are talking about trills, what do you think about Chopin's Barcarolle compared to the ballades, Annique? As if it should be considered as the fifth ballade, or is it even better and in its own completely different category?

    • @SCRIABINIST
      @SCRIABINIST 3 года назад +1

      The Barcarolle in some way along with the Fantasia Op.49 can both be considered Ballades in some way.

    • @connorrichardson368
      @connorrichardson368 3 года назад +1

      it’s not a ballade, but the piece is used in the same way if that makes sense. (5-15min concert piece)

    • @callmeqt1269
      @callmeqt1269 2 года назад

      Yeah, I categorize them as siblings of the ballades. Long, magnificent, ever-changing pieces that explore the whole range of emotions, keys, and techniques.

  • @CyberGene
    @CyberGene 3 года назад

    This is an eye opener, thanks! I’ve always struggled with trills and never thought of using non-adjacent fingers 😲

  • @davezhao4051
    @davezhao4051 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sure helped me a LOT😊

  • @jflau31
    @jflau31 3 года назад +1

    Take care, Annique! Thanks for your tutorial :)

  • @eddygonzalez2328
    @eddygonzalez2328 4 месяца назад

    Aside from trills, I've learn to do mordent, triplets, very short trills based on my hand position. Depending on wich way my hand is moving and the intervals I'm before and after. Some piece make using your 4th and 5th will be more convinient. Same with 3rd and fourth. Chopin Ballad No.1 has a passage a several measures into the 6/4 tempo, which requires a 1,2 finger trill on the LH as it ends with an 8va followed by chords.

  • @Tony-24
    @Tony-24 3 года назад

    Thanks very much you fixed my Chopin B 150 it was really annoying because i felt always there’s mistake

  • @izakss
    @izakss 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this video ❤️ I love to watch your videos..❤️

  • @apucci
    @apucci 3 года назад +4

    this week my piano lesson was exactly about trills and this was the best video I watched about it so far. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! im not scared anymore :p

  • @samchiappetta4629
    @samchiappetta4629 3 года назад +1

    Great video thank you! I was definitely guilty of the 3-4 on the white and black notes, and it was indeed awful! Never again, thanks!!

    • @PassionPno
      @PassionPno 3 года назад

      Why that fingering? lol

  • @lorenzomorgoni524
    @lorenzomorgoni524 2 года назад +6

    Observation on good finger combinations (vs. weak ones) is very interesting and I will try for sure! Anyway, as some people noticed in previous comments, in difficult repertoire it's almost impossible to avoid 4-5 trills.
    What's your take on alternating fingers (1-3-2-3 and so on)?

    • @karolakkolo123
      @karolakkolo123 2 года назад

      1-3-2-3 or 1-4-2-3 works good on longer trills, with the latter sounding more brilliant

  • @pianoscienceartisraelzaval8143
    @pianoscienceartisraelzaval8143 2 года назад

    I really love the tips given in this vídeo.......

  • @iLoveChopin
    @iLoveChopin 3 года назад +3

    Just for the lols, can you do a video of you thrilling the La Campanella thrill section with 4-5?

  • @angelob.1089
    @angelob.1089 3 года назад +7

    Great video! It’s difficult to say which fingerings are most ideal because the answer will vary in different contexts. As much as possible, I try to use more than 2 fingers for my trills as it makes the trill much less tiring, much cleaner, and more natural because the motion is less dependent solely on the fingers. 1-3-2-3 and 2-4-3-4 are common changing-finger trills, but 1-3-2-4 is great too.

  • @misterdubsteppa
    @misterdubsteppa 10 месяцев назад

    When you were like "I just explain it briefly" I was like no... give me the nerdy deep dive :D
    By the way, I am here because of the crazy trill in la campanella where you casually continune playing the d# with the 1... so I gotta say I thought about using 4/5, but since I feel comfortable with playing an octave with 1/3 I think I will use 3/5 for the trill. And it is funny that you mention it because, I always felt like two fingers that have one finger between them are better for trills, like 1/3 or 3/5 for example.

  • @icksupsilonzett6513
    @icksupsilonzett6513 2 года назад

    Gut erklärt! Wird nachher ausprobiert 😅

  • @moisesaguirre3804
    @moisesaguirre3804 3 года назад

    Hope you feel better soon!

  • @thanhtrucduong5815
    @thanhtrucduong5815 3 года назад

    your sharing is so fun and helpful love it

  • @7137271
    @7137271 3 года назад

    My piano teacher many years ago gave a few papers with quotes from pianists. One of them was (I don't from who): I believe the fundamental exercise of piano playing is the trill.

  • @manuelernst397
    @manuelernst397 2 года назад +1

    Good points! Ever tried 1-3-2-3 etc.?

  • @zidanidane
    @zidanidane 3 года назад +1

    lovely video
    8:44 interesting word choice

  • @neodymidius
    @neodymidius 3 года назад

    Besides your content which was very helpful and informative, your video style is developing in a very appealing direction! Very fun to watch!

  • @tallypianist
    @tallypianist Год назад

    Great video, thank you!

  • @fritzkruel1947
    @fritzkruel1947 3 года назад

    Hey
    I saw that I can wish for a piece for you to practice. ( 1 min, 10 min and 1 hour) I would be thrilled if you did Liebestraume No. 3.
    I don’t know if you already have practices this. I just love this piece so much that I just can’t get enough. Thank you before hand

  • @penguin3907
    @penguin3907 3 года назад

    As a bedwars sweat (am butterfly clicker) I just use my pointing finger and my middle finger Lmao
    Thx for making great content! Keep up the good work!

  • @lindokuhlembothwe8639
    @lindokuhlembothwe8639 3 года назад

    Thank you for this, I really needed it.😊

  • @Imir89
    @Imir89 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video! I learned Morning by Gried and got stuck on trills there (couldn't play it clean making most of mistakes you've mentioned). Now I gonna try relearn using you tips.
    And waiting video about glissando and, maybe, tremolo :)

  • @TracingFlares
    @TracingFlares Год назад

    great lesson again😊

  • @codonauta
    @codonauta 3 года назад

    One question in trills and ornaments (trills are at the end an ornament which lasts more time to finish) is the need to changing the fingers when phaying them. In the first years of learning of piano is said to change the fingers always is possible - sometimes this helps, other times that even seems becoming it harder to play. I don´t know if you made a video just for fingering in "short" ornaments, sorry if my question was answered in other video.

  • @musicpiano4304
    @musicpiano4304 2 года назад

    Thank you for this video it helped a lot✨👏🏻😄

  • @ExpldgN
    @ExpldgN 2 года назад +1

    thanks, there's like 200 trills at the end of morning mood lol

  • @luvmuppets
    @luvmuppets 3 года назад +5

    I don’t know if you have ever tried playing “Rage Over a Lost Penny” by Beethoven. In many passages I found it impossible to play white notes at the heart of the key. I needed to play towards the top of the white keys in order for there to be as little space as possible between them and their adjacent black keys.

    • @manuelernst397
      @manuelernst397 2 года назад +1

      Of course you need to shift the hand towards the black keys when you have to play them

  • @anthonym9494
    @anthonym9494 6 месяцев назад

    This was so helpful!!!

  • @renanmonteiro5261
    @renanmonteiro5261 3 года назад

    Thanks. That was very useful

  • @joezapata117
    @joezapata117 3 года назад

    I like your nike sweat shirt ....thanks for this information!

  • @sachagaillard4846
    @sachagaillard4846 2 года назад

    Very helpful thank you !

  • @tarjena
    @tarjena 3 года назад

    Yesss💪 this is exactly what I needed😎

  • @TheSunlex
    @TheSunlex 3 года назад

    Danke für das Video und gute Besserung! 👍

  • @StephanePiano
    @StephanePiano 3 года назад +3

    7:30 oof yes I'm in pain without even doing it

  • @SA-ze3yf
    @SA-ze3yf 2 года назад

    Thank you for your nice videos.I like the heart of the keys concept and it makes perfect sense.However,I think sometimes(just sometimes)if I insisted on using the tip or the heart of the keys as you refer to them ,I would end up more difficult fingering.So I try to follow your advice whenever possible and I think you also did not mean that we should always play at the heart of the keys no matter what.

  • @NnaemekaAmamasi
    @NnaemekaAmamasi 2 года назад

    The word is pronation!

  • @SCRIABINIST
    @SCRIABINIST 3 года назад

    Please do a Scriabin video someday, but I love this video. Very helpful :D

  • @ogbeidedesmond
    @ogbeidedesmond Год назад

    Hello, ur video really helped a lot to improve trills. But I also have a question, what fingerings u recommend to end a trill? Thanks and keep up the good work.

  • @JohannnesBrahms
    @JohannnesBrahms 3 года назад +6

    For an intermediate level player, this advice about choosing fingers could help accomplish the task. However, an advanced player will have developed what is called "independence of the fingers" which equalizes the strength and ability of all of the fingers. A virtuoso pianist can accomplish the trill using any combination of fingers. Isidor Philipp's exercises train the fingers to equalize. And as far as the "heart of the key" phenomenon goes, one may find it only minimally better to operate the lever mechanism of the piano key from these points, but hand position in playing may preclude doing so. Playing anywhere on the outer half of the exposed key should yield the same result. Technique in key depression using the fingers develops when one learns how to control the speed of the hammer by maintaining a balance between muscular tension and muscular relaxation. This ability cannot be taught. It is a secret of playing that only comes to those the piano has deemed worthy.

  • @marlonbernales7706
    @marlonbernales7706 3 года назад

    Great video

  • @agucci
    @agucci 3 года назад

    I am not scared of trills. I would love to interview you.

  • @anuar1978
    @anuar1978 3 года назад

    Chill it‘s just thrill.

  • @johnboger6
    @johnboger6 Год назад

    What about three-fingered trills? I have a ms (Bach's 4th two-part invention) that recommends to use fingers 1, 2, and 3 with 1 and 2 alternating on the same lower key. That's for the trill in the right hand; different fingers for the left-hand trill.

  • @Helloworld-xu2ui
    @Helloworld-xu2ui 3 года назад

    The trills in chopin barcarolle is so hard tho. Those third trills are hard af

    • @michieldolfing
      @michieldolfing 3 года назад +1

      Use this fingering:
      2 1 2 1
      4 5 4 5
      Or:
      2 1 2 1
      3 5 3 5
      With some practice, double thirds trills really aren't that bad!

  • @daniellisowski4919
    @daniellisowski4919 3 года назад

    When i first encounterd your
    Tutorials , you stressed the
    Advantage of letting time
    Of perfection not take up
    Slack still exhisting and
    Needed. Is there a point though
    Where just the basic recall
    Of previously rehersed measures
    Can place a psychological scar
    Tarnishing effect, or have you ever
    Experienced. Some type of syndrome of such. Even in a somewhat humorous confused
    State you always seem to confir
    Ideas relevant and very useful
    To piano. D.l.

  • @techtom1368
    @techtom1368 3 года назад

    i love your channel! thanks for the tips :D

  • @zottelpony1084
    @zottelpony1084 3 года назад

    So interessant, viel gelernt😍

  • @michaelalava8943
    @michaelalava8943 3 года назад +1

    annique: don't do trills with 4 and 5
    chopin: op 25 no 6 go brrrrrrr

  • @tatianamendoncastudio
    @tatianamendoncastudio 3 года назад

    My piano teacher gave me some fingerings for a piece that has lots of thrills, each passage different thrill fingerings depending on what is before or after. Including the fingers 4 and 5. I didn’t „complain“ or asked why she would play it like that because I thought, „ok different fingers combinations will help me „exercise“ different fingers“. And yes 4 and 5 is just scheiße.

  • @anfarahat
    @anfarahat 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for your nice explaination. I understand that 1,3 2,4 and 3,5 work all well together for trilling. However, I do not think you are telling us to avoid 2,3 for trilling? It works quite well especially when the 2nd finger is on a black key.

    • @manuelernst397
      @manuelernst397 2 года назад

      I also think 2-3 can work but if you really have to save energy, 1-3 is less exhausting. At first 2-3 was the most comfortable fingering for me but when I got used to 1-3 I realized that 1-3 is better for me. After 1-3 worked very well, my teacher told me to try 1-3-2-3 which I believe is the most energy saving fingering for trills :)

    • @PassionPno
      @PassionPno 2 года назад +3

      One can actually play long trills very well with 2-3 by slowly moving the elbow up and down as they play to avoid getting the fingers stuck.

  • @karon8537
    @karon8537 3 года назад

    Very helpfull 👍🎶💐

  • @tenyako
    @tenyako 2 года назад +1

    Very interesting, helpful and thought provoking, thank you!

  • @Historia_
    @Historia_ 3 года назад

    The video instantly reminded me of liszts s388 :D
    Very trill.
    Also, when is RUclips membership coming?

  • @willknapp8751
    @willknapp8751 Год назад

    This has got to be my absolute favorite piano channel lol it’s always so fun, especially all of the bloopers. But also an absolute ton of great information! I think you’ll find you’re career is going to end up just being RUclips, your channel is so top tier 💯 keep doing this & perhaps play full pieces too like on a monthly basis & I’m sure your going to end up with millions of subs, like zero doubt at all 👌🏼 thanks for your hard work btw!

  • @TheAlanski
    @TheAlanski 2 года назад

    You're good at video editing lol, I notice the zooms and cuts.