I would note that you are basing this off of the 90v battery that shipped with the early models of the storm bee. The production models are being shipped with 104v so that should give it a bit more power.
I totally agree with you. I own both. I've had the Storm since November 2021 and the Ultra since February 2023. I live off-road in the mountains of Mongolia and have steep, rocky technical terrain - not really even trails just cross country. So this suits the Ultra more because I'm less likely to fall off and when I do it's so easy to pick up and muscle it out of trouble on steep slopes. However, for dirt roads, I prefer the Storm because it's got more capable suspension. For steep hill climbing, the tires on the Ultra aren't really aggressive enough and I lose traction way too easily. I'm not keen on changing wheels so I'm still searching for a more aggressive 19" rear tire. I'm tall (187cm) so the Ultra feels a little small and low - which is good on steep hills - whereas the Storm is just about right. I'd also consider raising the bars on the Ultra but I'm not in a big hurry.
@@race-emoto I've watched quite a few of your videos now. We seem to agree on everything. What rear tire did you go with? I've found the biggest issue is the rear tire and limits my climbing grip.
I replaced the rear tire with a Motoz Terrapactor. I think the size is 110/90-19”. It’s very aggressive compared to the stock tire. I also bought Tubliss system which allows you to run zero or low pressure in the tires for extra traction. I’ll install them Tubliss system later this month when the snow has gone.
@@KNKLHEAD No, not the US. I got it at the KTM shop in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia. It’s an Australian brand made in Thailand. It should be available worldwide if Mongolian can get it.
Thanks for the review and comments. I'm a little confused about the different types of Storm Bees. From what little I know, there is the E(enduro), F(off-road), and R(road) types. Do all types have the same suspension? Did you review the F version? Is the F version the only type that CAN do jumps and even bigger jumps than the Ultra? Is the E version extra soft for going over small bumps? Thanks!
I ordered with the Ultra (with 21 / 18 wheels) even though I am a little taller. I am 6'2 and a beginner rider. I don't plan on going on tracks or doing anything above intermediate trails. I much prefer the way Storm looks and I bet it feels more solid, but my gut told me that the Ultra would be easier to ride and better suited for me.
@@NPow94 I have had the Ultra for about a year. Except for blowing the charger once, which Surron fixed amazingly quickly, the biked has worked without problems. I busted the hanguards fairly quickly but replaced them with steel reinforced guards that have held up.. The Ultra was probably a much better choice over the Storm. With the amount of times I have dropped the Ultra on rocky trails, picking up the Storm repeatedly would not be fun. Of course, there are a bunch more choices of different brands that were not available last year.
@ I appreciate you taking the time to help me out on this. I have flip flopped so much between the two models. I’m around 225lbs and that has been making me lean more towards the storm, but it seems that the ultra is more than capable of getting it done. Have you done any mods to the ultra other than what you mentioned?
@@NPow94 I am 190lbs. It could be that your extra weight would be better suited to a bigger bike. I am not the best person to ask. Maybe give Charged Cycles a call to get an expert opinion. I am sure that they could give you some advice Yes, I did one more mod. I opted for the tallest ODI handlebars. By the time I got done with the Mods, the ultra bee price (with mods) is either the same as, more than, an out of the box Storm Bee. edit: I don't think the mods are more than an out of the box Storm Bee. The price comparison with Ultra Bee mods is close though.
@@jackbuaer3828 interesting to hear about how the modded price can compare. Did you cross shop the ultra with any other brands? You had mentioned some other competitors that have come out since the ultra. Are you looking to try out other brands or just stick with surron?
can you comment on your height ? I've never done any dirt biking and am interested in getting one for taking on forest roads, basically gravel/dirt roads that high clearance vehicles can drive on, so much easier and laid back than single track. My question concerns whether someone of my stature (5'6 or 1.68m) would be comfortable on either of these bikes given their seat height.
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I would note that you are basing this off of the 90v battery that shipped with the early models of the storm bee. The production models are being shipped with 104v so that should give it a bit more power.
Oh ok good to know! thanks heaps for that!
I totally agree with you. I own both. I've had the Storm since November 2021 and the Ultra since February 2023. I live off-road in the mountains of Mongolia and have steep, rocky technical terrain - not really even trails just cross country. So this suits the Ultra more because I'm less likely to fall off and when I do it's so easy to pick up and muscle it out of trouble on steep slopes. However, for dirt roads, I prefer the Storm because it's got more capable suspension.
For steep hill climbing, the tires on the Ultra aren't really aggressive enough and I lose traction way too easily. I'm not keen on changing wheels so I'm still searching for a more aggressive 19" rear tire.
I'm tall (187cm) so the Ultra feels a little small and low - which is good on steep hills - whereas the Storm is just about right. I'd also consider raising the bars on the Ultra but I'm not in a big hurry.
Thanks for that! It's good to hear from people who are out there truly experiencing the capabilities of both!
@@race-emoto I've watched quite a few of your videos now. We seem to agree on everything.
What rear tire did you go with? I've found the biggest issue is the rear tire and limits my climbing grip.
I replaced the rear tire with a Motoz Terrapactor. I think the size is 110/90-19”.
It’s very aggressive compared to the stock tire. I also bought Tubliss system which allows you to run zero or low pressure in the tires for extra traction.
I’ll install them Tubliss system later this month when the snow has gone.
@@martinfoster5163 Hi! I am interested in the terrapactor for the rear. Did you buy it/find it in the US? Thank you!
@@KNKLHEAD No, not the US. I got it at the KTM shop in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia. It’s an Australian brand made in Thailand. It should be available worldwide if Mongolian can get it.
The first proper comparison, thanks!
It seems that this is the older 90V Storm Bee. I have the newer 104V and I found that the range is better than Ultra Bee.
Yeah it is, thanks for letting us know
Great video, really looking forward to what your thoughts are on the Stark Varg when you can get one on the trail 👍🏻
Great comparison, Ultra Bee very impressive piece of kit 👍
Good info thanks. I have an ultra on order.
Good man
Great video. Keep it up, you have some of the best content for
these bikes
Thanks, will do!
Appreciated 👌🏻
I am 150 lbs 5,9 wich is bettter id prefter storm for more trvel of suspension but also might b to light to get the use of all the suspension
Watching the riding, it appears the Ultra is doing better
We agree
Thanks for the review and comments. I'm a little confused about the different types of Storm Bees. From what little I know, there is the E(enduro), F(off-road), and R(road) types. Do all types have the same suspension? Did you review the F version? Is the F version the only type that CAN do jumps and even bigger jumps than the Ultra? Is the E version extra soft for going over small bumps? Thanks!
There is just the mx version and enduro/on road version. the only real differencr is the lighting kit for the enduro version
Honestly, I don't think I could ever give up gas bikes. The BRAAAP of the engine is half the fun. But I would own an ULTRA right besides my 2-stroke.
I understand, so get both. It's only logical
I ordered with the Ultra (with 21 / 18 wheels) even though I am a little taller. I am 6'2 and a beginner rider. I don't plan on going on tracks or doing anything above intermediate trails. I much prefer the way Storm looks and I bet it feels more solid, but my gut told me that the Ultra would be easier to ride and better suited for me.
Any update on how your choice went?
@@NPow94 I have had the Ultra for about a year. Except for blowing the charger once, which Surron fixed amazingly quickly, the biked has worked without problems. I busted the hanguards fairly quickly but replaced them with steel reinforced guards that have held up..
The Ultra was probably a much better choice over the Storm. With the amount of times I have dropped the Ultra on rocky trails, picking up the Storm repeatedly would not be fun. Of course, there are a bunch more choices of different brands that were not available last year.
@ I appreciate you taking the time to help me out on this. I have flip flopped so much between the two models. I’m around 225lbs and that has been making me lean more towards the storm, but it seems that the ultra is more than capable of getting it done.
Have you done any mods to the ultra other than what you mentioned?
@@NPow94 I am 190lbs. It could be that your extra weight would be better suited to a bigger bike. I am not the best person to ask. Maybe give Charged Cycles a call to get an expert opinion. I am sure that they could give you some advice Yes, I did one more mod. I opted for the tallest ODI handlebars. By the time I got done with the Mods, the ultra bee price (with mods) is either the same as, more than, an out of the box Storm Bee.
edit: I don't think the mods are more than an out of the box Storm Bee. The price comparison with Ultra Bee mods is close though.
@@jackbuaer3828 interesting to hear about how the modded price can compare.
Did you cross shop the ultra with any other brands? You had mentioned some other competitors that have come out since the ultra. Are you looking to try out other brands or just stick with surron?
What he said was The storm is terrifying
If you’re over 6 feet tall or over 190 pounds go with the storm. I’m almost too big for the storm.
Yeah, i'm 6 foot and i feel the ultra is fine, but it's a good point, the storm is bigger
Talaria sting ?
The Ultra and sting are on 2 different levels, the talaria would get smoked, might think about doing a light bee x vs Talaria though
Wow! The other racers were really not committed much to any kind of race speeds😂
We had to pay them to slow down :P
40mm of less travel on the suspension water cooled engine liist gors on why storm is kingg
can you comment on your height ? I've never done any dirt biking and am interested in getting one for taking on forest roads, basically gravel/dirt roads that high clearance vehicles can drive on, so much easier and laid back than single track. My question concerns whether someone of my stature (5'6 or 1.68m) would be comfortable on either of these bikes given their seat height.
About 5'7 and it's a great fit so I think you will be completely fine