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Colorism is kind of like Racism's partner in crime, so we should probably talk about it.
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The thing that's been bugging me lately is how in so many movies and TV shows is how the female partner of a black man always has lighter skin than him.
You often notice that the girlfriend or wife is usually the more attractive of the two, at least by society's standards. Especially in sit coms
I feel like with a lot of new movies that try to be diverse they only let each character have one disadvantaged characteristic too. So the women are all white, if a man is gay, he is white and all the racial minorities are men. Which just further perpetuatates the veritable invisibility black women have in the media
Or even when a black woman and man are supposed to be sister and brother.
"The greatest showman" does that with the Wheeler siblings for example. I’m not black myself and don’t know much about colorism, but I was like "hold on a minute, why does she have significantly lighter skin than him?"
The fact that Zendaya plays Zack Efrons love interest miiight have something to do with it.
@@justanotheryoutubecommente2 yeah, especially re: weight (fat phobia). So not-slim men have a culturally acceptable /skinny/ wife.
@@tigerstripedsinger or the only black woman in the movie is meant to be "the funny one" or "the fat one"
I like the conclusion, “attack the system not the individuals”
Juli Jalaludin But what are you actually attacking? And what is the solution?
MsChitterchat attacking the people that perpetuate it: rappers, directors, people who are colorist. The solution is to keep on calling it out and educating people about it. When we finally acknowledge it and discuss how to get rid of it. That’s the solution
Each of us should introspect themselves first and then maybe "attack" others.
Tony Stank Soooo.... individuals? also you didn't come up with a solution, you said we'll talk about how to get rid of it, that's not a solution.
Jalen Cole yeah?
I am dark skinned person from India and oh boy the toxicity here is unbearable
Im a indian south African n my skwl ppl r light skinned n i basically get teased every day
Oh sweetie, agreed, took me 15 years to just buy a eyeliner cause got told it would make me look darker thus uglier? It honestly hurts but finally bought it!
Ik
You’re beautiful
@@pie1990 aw sweetie I used to apply turmeric and yogurt to my face, I get you but just know, there's a lot of people of this sort and you don't have to listen to no blabbering cat
Colorism is everywhere,even in Africa. I'm Kenyan,I know.
I don't know Kenya, I grew up further south. But I don't think it is as bad in Africa. At least nowhere near as bad as I found it after moving to America.
Hello fellow Kenyan
I asked my male friend his ideal woman,,, and he said he wants. " a mixed woman" 🥴 coz the way they were portrayed in the Media when growing up. he's Kenyan btw
This is so true. I'm a light skin Kenyan girl and lemme tell you it's bad. I see the way people treat me to my darker skin cousin and it's quite sad. Once we were at a public place and this guy blatantly said I was pretty and ignored my cousin as if she wasn't even there. This is just one example. I have about a 100 stories like this
@@harrytimmy5070in primary school i was told that my mom was prettier than me because she's light skin and I'm dark.
When I try to make a dark skinned character in a videogame and it's like this is a white person with paint.
monster hunter world did it pretty well i made a dark skinned black woman and it looks pretty true to life. idk if you like that game though.
So true. They usually look so weird and akward
holy shit u right, u just made me realize that!!! oh god
kubo so thought The Division 2 did a decent job of modelling accurate skin tones and facial structures of PoC.
The divinity original sin character creator is awful for this. The darkest tones are completely unnatural and the features are still structurally European. Does have decent hairstyle options though.
"Kids in middle school are f*ing monsters" always true.
I know. I loved when he said that. It was like "Lord of the Flies" in my middle school lol!
As a girl in middle school, I can 100% vouch for this. Sup, fellow monsters.
High school too
I taught middle schoolers for 30 years. Yes, they could be very hard on each other, but they could also be kind and fun. I have more good memories of them than bad memories.
Yep
My boyfriend is half black, half Japanese with very dark skin and a white-sounding name. We live in the south...
When he gets called for interviews they usually have him sit and wait. After about an hour or so, someone mentions how the guy they were waiting for it really late.
He gets to say “Actually, I’m right here...” It sucks. Especially since he usually gets there early.
this is funny. he should just introduce himself immediately and excessively. From experience, it expedites things. lol
@@willaroberts134 lol I told him something similar. His response was “....yeah I guess I should’ve.”
Silly. Love him to bits ☺️
I’m black a Japanese to but I’m more on the darker side like a pecan 😂
@@Dukedennismyman 😂 He has dark skin, too! And he decided to have dreads
I genuinely don't understand why or how can people associate names with the color of your skin. For fucks sake, is 2021, there's people out there naming their child's Kaleshi 🤦♀️
Edit: I'll rephrase it for the slowbrainers -> I don't understand why people *ASUME* you *MUST* by certain race or ethnicity to be named certain ways
"Fortunately, i like how i look. I think i'm pretty sexy" gonna ask Santa for some of that confidence. Good on you!
When people insert like self compliments in a "i love me for myself way" it makes me so happy lol
@B Smith Shut it E Smith
Its weird this conversation isn’t really talked about but asian cultures,like India and Bangladesh,are extremely colour biased. I’m pretty dark in comparison to like most middle class people in Bangladesh. I got harassed continuously for like 4 years because of my skin colour,I’ve been called the n-word and even my family asked me to use skin lightening products. My aunt is pretty good example of how colourism is prevelant in Asia. So when she was trying to find a spouse for her son,she legit said this-“That girl is too dark skinned”. This kind of behaviour is prevalent worldwide.
So sorry that happened to you. I think the strangest part of colorism is how arbitrary it is. It is so easy to find youthful, healthy-looking, objectively beautiful dark skinned people out there. The only reason this characteristic is looked down upon is because enough people say so
That's because humans still suck a lot and need to be fixed fast - or abandoned, if you're more of a pessimist like myself.
I'm Bengali from across the border and its the same here as well.
Especially with he upper class Brahmins with fair skin are privileged over darker skinned people of lower castes.
The same story in India
you can even see that on a larger scale in how Southeast Asia is treated in general vs East Asia.
Colorism is so rampant in India. Our media actively pushes the message that having fair skin is a major requisite for attractiveness. At 21, I've finally managed to deprogram myself from this cultural setting. Now I find dark skinned people just as, if not more attractive than light skinned people.
GV A Good for you for reprogramming your mindset! Not an easy task!
Congratulations on ridding yourself of prejudice! And dark skinned Indians/South Asians are hot as hell.
It's true.. I'm not from India but Zee world is televised where I live.. So most of us have the idea that all Indians are very fair in complexion.. So I was surprised when I watched a vlog in RUclips and noticed they're a number of people on the darker end of the spectrum and I felt very bad because not allowing darker people to have an equal chance in the spotlight is like saying we're not good enough to represent what our countries stand for.
I'm European but my fiance is Indian and witnessing this in India was so fucked up. There's this status that it gives my partner, had I been black it would have been a point of scorn from family and his peers instead. Even well-educated people fall for buying skin lightening products as well. I'm so happy for you for looking past that sort of mentality.
yeah the caste system is fucked
Being a dark skinned girl and having everybody including my parents and other family members (who are all light skinned) make fun of me as a child basically destroyed my self esteem.
My light-skinned mother-in-law tried that silliness with my daughter. So I kindly asked my amazing husband to educate her, otherwise she will never see her dark skinned granddaughters again. My daughters will not be indoctrinated with self-hate.
@@MKE87 I love people like you!!!!! Yesss.
So sorry to hear this happened to you. Sending hugs
Cries silently in dark skinned Asian
Everyone is beautiful and Healthy skin is important more than lighter
literally my dad is thai-korean and my mom is korean and I lowkey always felt like the odd one out before I moved to America😭
@@grandiose5720 That's so cool 😂
Hope you are doing great in USA.
@@aishc9950 I could do 100x times without school but I love it lmao
cries in blasian who is on the lighter end of black people but on the darker end of asian ppl so .~.
Whenever I bring up colorism as an issue, nobody listens to me. But when a lighter skin women brings up the issue, they flock to her. That alone is prime example of it. I’m offended but it’s to be expected.
I feel sympathy to all dark skin people out there.
Colorism is pervasive in the Asian and Latino communities. Basically, if you’re dark, you are treated as lower class, unattractive, and unfit for educated work
Despite the negative, we are making progress in this department
Vaginal Warfare That is just the thing. People see bitterness where none exists when they interact with dark skinned black women in the US. The US has the angry black woman stereotype. In other places in the Caribbean, the stereotype is that dark skinned women are more sexual. And there, people see sexual interest where none exists. We all see what we want to see. It’s called a confirmation bias.
@@free22 when do we start seeing the soul and the content of people first and make that count first...? in lak'ech
Find Your Pixie Dust Every Day When indeed.
"You're just mad lolz"
That's usually the retort when someone mentions it, who just happens to fall in that demographic.
"Everybody wanna-be black, but nobody wanna be black" Paul Mooney lolz...
My dad's been saying that for as long as I can remember. Lol
Still holds true to this day. 😩
How many times is someone going to say that quote in youtube comment sections....I know the guy has said many other things, that just as quotable and prevalent. It's up there with the Malcolm X quote of black women are the most disrespected women on the earth. For damn sure Malcolm X said some gems. Repetition breeds conditioning, and if negative it breeds a low self esteem (often leading to bitterness and anger). No one will oppress me, baby.
Nah I'm good😂
#facts
I'm Filipino and pretty brown, and I remember an ex girlfriend freaking out because I found her childhood photos, from when she would still play out in the sun. From the way she reacted, you'd think I discovered her secret Dorian Grey portrait or the doctor's invoice for the plastic surgery to remove her humpback.
She seriously thought I'd dump her because she was darker as a kid than she was when we started dating. That's how terrible skin-whitening is marketed in the Philippines.
Ever since I've been in middle school, I have developed a fear of middle schoolers. Specifically middle school boys with edgy (aka racist, sexist, homophobic or really just offensive) humor.
I subscribe to that. But either their voice is so spread out that I feel surrounded by them at all times while online, or people of all ages really are acting as edgy teenagers.
My school was so edgy, and so I was I in middle school I was a top tier asshole
i’m in a discord server about worldbuilding and recently we’ve been getting lots of kids with “edgy” worldbuilding (making their settings have eugenics and portraying it as good, for example) and it’s getting quite old
Wow y’all grew up in some really bad places those kind of kids were few and far between where in grew up in Georgia.
I actually like offensive humor. I'm not any of those things though and I'm not a middle schooler.
"YOU CAN BE PRIVILEGED AND DISADVANTAGED AT THE SAME TIME... A LOT OF Y'ALL ACT LIKE Y'ALL DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT." - T1J
Legit the best thing I've heard all year, never let someone devalue your struggle by saying 'someone else has it worse'.
"our rhetoric has no definitions or standards"
just say "white man bad" and save us all some time.
Exactly
It's something I try to explain to people when I can.
I love how you ended your statement about not to feel devalues because someone has it it worse.
A legitimate problem is a legitimate problem. The I have it worse than you, to me, is too often a cop out and excuse not to feel empathy and compassion for someone. And many who say, I have it worse than you, do not take enough time to think of those who have it worse than them. It is perfectly fine to feel bummed and feel struggled about a race problem because your race and ethnicity is something you cannot control, you cannot choose it before you were conceived. Being Black is not the same thing as being a serial killer. Satan is the Master of All Controversies. He will stir things up as much as he can to hurt people.....
I'm a ginger.
Disadvantaged and privileged at the same time.
Lols.
I remember that when I was like thirteen I cried myself to sleep because I wasn't as light-skinned as some classmates. I come from a christian family and back then I would go so far as to pray for my skin to get white. I never felt good with how I looked until I saw Yasmin (that Bratz doll), whose skin color was pretty much the same as mine and was still presented as stylish and beautiful, which is why I always scoff when people say kids don't care about representation.
Omg, that's terrible. I 100% agree representation is so important.
Im a mixed brown girl and i grew up in a country with very little black and non-white people (and even less mixed people) so I didnt really have any non-white friends so there wasnt much representation of us in the media. Like I really cant think of more than like two charaters I grew up with that where black. Even though I still got compliments on my "exotic look" i still felt so out of place i sometimes wished i was white. Your situation sounds so much worse thpugh, and i honestly feel so lucky that people would praise me for how i looked even though i didnt get much representation. (sorry for the ramble)
That’s crazy! Bratz was the PRIMARY reason as to why I think I never had a complex about my skin color and features growing up. Second, would be That’s So Raven. Lizzie McGuire could never. I idolized her as a child, and her sense of “fashion”. I thought I was so pretty and poppin to be Black. To this day I adore my lips. Representation does matter to children. It leaves a lasting effect.
As a teen, I care about representation. When I was a kid, I was so happy to see Thats So Raven, Corey in the House, and Princess and the Frog. I was so excited to see characters that looked like me. There need to be more black main characters. Light ones and dark ones
I’m sorry to hear that you had to go through this. I’m not ver dark myself and I regret pushing from my darker heritage because I didn’t feel like I’d be accepted enough. Even though my people are glorified through the lighter skinned celebrities. I feel for you I’m sure you’re a great person ❤️
I had a very similar experience actually, I remember praying to God that he straightens my hair and makes me a lightskin overnight when I was 9. I'm 18 now and love my damn self, but I wish I had found more representation in my childhood, and didn't hate my blackness back then. Its pretty sad
This is so fucked up that I just want to cry, that people get treated like they're less than, and in some cases poison themselves with mercury containing skin whitening creams, just because of the colour and tone of their skin. I have always been mesmerised by the beauty of different skin colours. I really wish that we all could start appreciating the beauty in ourselves and in all others.
Below I share some of my experiences with colourism, I realise that it is something that's way less severe than the issues of colourism faces by people that are not white.
In Sweden, if you're white, you're considered more attractive if you are tanned. And it goes way beyond attractiveness, even into the realms of being socially accepted. I've been picked on throughout most of my life for being too pale (due to my ginger complexion), and was outright bullied for it up until high school. We were four girls that used to walk to school together, I distinctly remember this time when one of them was very insistant on walking next to me. It later turned out that it was because she looked more tanned when her skin was in contrast with mine. At uni one of my friends said "you're not pale, you're see-through". When I was younger and wore more make up, there used to be no foundation in my skin tone, I'd always have to go with something that was too dark or too yellow. I finally found a foundation powder at the body shop in high school that was perfect with my skin, only to have it discontinued shortly after "because no one is that pale".
Again, this is not to compare my challenges, with the racism and marginalisation that people of colour face. Just my own experience of colourism.
Woahh it’s so crazy how people struggle the same struggles in different ways. I’m Filipino and most of us are naturally dark, or tan. Many young girls in the Philippines are bullied for being tan, causing girls to attempt to bleach their color away. Crazy that many Filipinos probably lust for your paleness while you were bullied for not being tan enough. We should all just love each ourselves.
@@samanthakrueger-gundy2998 the prejudice against red-heads actually comes from the treatment of Nordics and Celtics; you can do more research if you like (I'd suggest it) but when the British colonized both, they took them as slaves and since ginger hair was more common for both groups, it was seen as terrible and ugly.
Have you seen the jokes they make about Irish women?
@@samanthakrueger-gundy2998 I think the witchcraft association has something to do with Celtic ancestry, since Celtic-descended people (particularly Irish people) are more likely to have red hair, and early Christians saw the Celtic religion as a form of witchcraft.
yeah but at least in swedish media they show white people unlike other dark countries where they show white people
Nothing is more beautiful than luputa’s smile.
Lupita*
Facts!
True😃
@@venusbby it’s comment section, not a spelling exam. Now run along child.🙄
@@NotLikeUs869 okay sherin, you've made your little brained point
Don't forget that "sleep with" and "marriage material" are two different kinds of attractiveness. That graph could use some more squares.
So true. I’m a “brown skinned” black woman and fairly attractive. I have a lot of men that want to sleep with me, but no one ever wants to date me seriously. And I don’t present myself in “slutty” way. It’s also interesting the amount of men who I was involved with but wouldn’t commit to me, but as soon as fair or mixed girl came along, they LOCKED that shit DOWN. All of that to say, I’m done. Learned my lesson.
E M Sometimes it's best to date out. Find your audience girl + good luck ❤️
Salomé Guzman yes, I’ve had to learn that the hard way. And sometimes dating out extends to non Americans...but thank you, love :)
@@E_MZ_ That's really fucked up, i wonder if it was subconscious thing or if they were aware that they're discriminating when it comes to romantic partners. What do you think?
E M I’m mixed and experience this also. Even when I was a teen, grown men basically approached me like I was NSA sex. I’m a person, dude! Even well-meaning friends have lectured me that a man I’m interested in is “a friend,” that I’m reading in, that these men couldn’t be interested in me (even though most of them married Mexican men, essentially outside their race and culture) and even though they have zero male friends, only their bf/husband for decades. I’m pretty sure there have been good guys who misread me, thinking I friend-zoned them or was manipulating them/playing games, due to my inexperience between being either hyper-sexualized or desexualized. It’s like most people can’t see me with any nuance.
I'm a light-skinned Arab woman, and it always makes my skin crawl when people say I'm pretty BECAUSE OF my white skin. It inherently implies that my darker-skinned family are flawed because they look less European than I do. I love my skin, and I love their's too. But when I'm complimented on being white, I love my skin less because it's being used to undervalue their's.
Same as a light-skinned Dominican. Don't use me to put down Black Dominicans. We're just as beautiful as each other.
Yo, if only I had a euro for every time a dark-skinned man told me he thought I was beautiful because I’m light-skinned. To me it’s the same as a white man liking me for being “exotic”. It’s bull & objectification
Thats sad thou got that vibe from some moroccans too
And funnily enough, here in north people would prefer to get a darker skin. It took me around 20 years to accept my paleness and see beauty in it.
Dark skinned Arab here. I grew up hearing I would be prettier if I were lighter.
Dark skin girls are gorgeous
Oh god. Fetishisizing women of colour...
How is he fetishizing them? He’s just giving them a compliment tf
@@TM-il8rb Yea I agree thinking dark skin girls are gorgeous is just stating you think the way thay look is attractive to you and that's perfectly fine. That alone does not mean your fetishizing them that's not how that works. This people are being way to sensitive.
@@cryingthrowingup4256 Your right but what you're talking about is pandering and if that's what your saying considering the video he's commenting under you'd have a better argument. I just don't get jumping to the conclusion of fetishes Just because somone thinks dark skin is attractive to them. You sounds a bit paranoid. I get that a lot of black people have been fetishized so i understand the paranoia but none the less you sound paranoid. To be fair though we really don't know what's in this person's heart that posted this whether its pandering, fetishizing or he's just making a genuine statement from his heart. Sometimes I think it's good to just take a compliment and move on. Not everything has to be bad.
What is wrong with y’all he’s just complimenting darkskin girls damn.
As a middle schooler I can confirm that middle schoolers are infact monsters
same here bro. especially 6th graders
i didn’t know till i was probably about 14 that when white women said they wanted a man “tall dark and handsome” they didn’t want a black man but instead a white man with darker features
Same here!
I thought they meant with dark hair or a "dangerous" look
Same, dude
Dark as in tanned
Historically, The phrase was used by white people to describe other white men who didn’t fit the stereotypical blond hair and blue eyes.
It doesn’t mean black people
wait what
"those with power, no matter how little, are regularly driven to maintain that power whether consciously or not" is really well put
motto tronic I feel like that applies in a lot of places, and to a lot of people, definitely a phrase to remember.
As soon as I say this he said it
I agree with most of the things said in the video, but seeing the world solely through a sort of Marxist lens of a power struggle goes a bit too far. Personally, I don’t mind remaining in the shadows with enough money to live comfortably because I know that were I given power, I would make a mess of things.
From what little I've read, there was a lot of history pre-Civil War of richer land owners leaning into the propagation of racist ideas both to justify slavery and to create a rift between poor whites and poor (free) blacks, resting on the idea that even if the poor whites owned little to nothing, at least they weren't at the bottom of the social hierarchy.
While true - it sounds automatic and out of our control. Why worry about natural phenomena. They will always happen and keep on happening
Growing up watching the Martin Lawrence show, I was always confused when Martin would insult Pam's looks because it was clear (to me anyway) that she is a beautiful woman.
My sister is lighter than me. So I'm used to hear people saying :"oh... it's funny, why is she lighter than you??". 😑
Same! My sister's literally pale next to my tan brown skin and people be like, "y'all don't look alike at all" I even just got used to saying it before people say it to me because it always hurts that they differentiate us two based on our skin colours.
😕My bru i lighter than me
My older sisters are lighter than me too. We're Filipinos but they didn't use whitening injections like other people have. They just happen to inherit the lighter skin from my father and I didn't
Out of all my sisters are light except me I got my dad's colour
“You can be privileged and disadvantaged at the same time.”
One more time, I don’t think they heard you in the back.
Nobody should use their own disadvantages as an excuse to not care about other's. Solidarity with others who are oppressed in different ways is key to liberating all of us.
As a Black Man that loves Black Superheroes I Noticed every time they create a Black Female Superhero it doesn't take long to lighten them up like Storm or Vixen
True
I see that too! Not to pick on beyonce but she started out black, her thighs are beautiful and stayed dark but dont match her light face! The industry understands we see all this right? How strange that the most beautiful people still have people telling them which way is up. I feel bad like im a racist for seeing it and saying dont do that, but really in the end its not my issue not my place to correct someone.
Fingers crossed for Shuri, Okoye and Nakia. On the plus side, Lashana Lynch is now 007.
@@TimdeVisser86 I believe they need to give Lashana Lynch her own number
@@darylifillifill1677 Wouldn't that just make her part of the rank and file of MI6? I'd say that giving her the iconic code name is a sign that the series is moving on. Something they couldn't do if she'd been given a new code name. She'd never shake the stigma of not being the 'real' successor.
I can't believe how accurately u highlighted that "light skinned actors are celebrated in South India although there people are dark skinned".
I'm " light" skinned black brazilian and I dated a hatian ...he told me he like white girls more😂😂I was like ok than don't let me hold you back
because of colorism and sexism mixing in disney sitcoms i used to watch as a little kid (like, REALLY little), 4-6 y/o me thought that all black women had lighter skin than black men. so, yikes on me AND disney.
Disney was also an open antisemitic man, and portrayed people with big noses as ugly, greedy or evil.
Disney even brought that subliminal message into the live action Lion King movie. They made sure Napa was light and had lighter eyes and Simba was darker. It was so unnecessary and honestly, creepy.
I thought i was the only one that thought that even though my mom is darkskin... like idk where my mind was at
i never liked Tiana when i was growing up, all she wanted to do was work...I mean what Disney princess wants that, I grew up idolizing coquettish dolls as princesses which has its own problems but personally I only ever identified with Mulan ( a badass who fought in a war because I like martial arts) and Esmeralda. Esmeralda specifically because she was gorgeous, strong, independent, crafty and kind, not to mention dark enough that she actually looked like me, true she wasn't a princess but she was the best a lil mixed girl was gonna get (Jasmine was just...so not my type)
@@badlittlewolf2606 no fucking way tiana was the only relatable princess given the fact that most people work 10 hours a day for crappy salary
The RUclips algorithm finally came through and recommended me a video of substance
Same amen! 🙏
honestly, same ^
Same
Laura ღ RIGHT!
Hell yeah
Actually there is colorism in Asia too. Being like really fair is associated with being rich and beautiful while being darker is associated with the exact opposite. There are a lot of products to whiten the skin tone as a result. It is sad that a lot of people all around the world cares about such simple things that should not be a deal like skin color and tone.
Colorism in Asia is not just also there, it's jacked up on stereoids and considered entirely normal, and enough so that it's pretty easy for people outside of the same racial group to pick up on it. Even in supposedly more egalitarian countries like Singapore you'll often be able to tell someone's relative social standing by their hue. Darker skin tone and you're assumed to be a day laborer or at most lower middle-class.
He used an Asian ad of a girl singing about how white her skin was lol it’s not a laughing matter I feel terrible about all colorism that happens around the world
As a light skinned brown girl I hated it when my family (near and extended) compared me with my cousins and told me that it will be easy for me to find husband since I was 13.
@Amelia Jones my family is not millennial
They are bunch of ladies in 50s and 60s
And nothing is wrong being millennial
I’m a (white) makeup artist, and finding foundations and products for clients past “medium deep” is almost impossible. I pretty much always end up mixing foundations and have spent a good chunk of change on powders and primers that don’t look ashy. It’s legitimately crazy how far the arms of colorism reaches.
Super prevalent in the tattoo community, even though the science behind pigments support darker shades now. It was really interesting to see how far we've come, and how far we still have to go.
Fenty
Try Juvia's Place
Angel Giordano Fenty is OK. If you have dry skin it won’t won’t for you.
jgo inv haven’t heard of this company, will definitely check it out!
Chocolate girl here. Great video. Colorism has plagued the African diaspora since, basically forever and it seems no one wants to talk about it. So when I see any acknowledgement from the African American community, especially a dark skint male it makes me feel like it's a step in the right direction.
Oh, and those video game CAC options where tragic back in the day.
you might like For Harriet yt channel, if you don't know her already.
brandi jones dark skinned black guy checking in. Good luck.
I get down sometimes b/c of it... keep that head up and confidence high... you’ll steamroll all the subtle “perceptions” of others and end up where you want / need
You would love Chrissie’s channel
As the white daughter of a black mother, I gotta say thank you, as now I'm a bit more conscious about all these topics. Will research more and try help as I can. Loves 🤙🏻
"I like how I look, I think I'm pretty sexy"
"you can be priveleged AND disadvantaged at the same time." PREACH
white gay people are still grasping that concept lmao
@@coatimundi69 That's true ngl ( - w - ) took me way to long to understand that concept and I thought I was open minded ~yeesh~ I was really only being close-minded/biased and using sugar-coated words to appear as such now that I think about it (which makes me cringe and ashamed tbh).
I've been trying to better myself now by listening to others without quick assumptions/judgements and to become more aware of people's emotions/behaviors as a way to understand why we may act the way we do. As well, that if my actions show any concern of bias (racism, transphobia, or any sorts of prejudice/discriminatory views), whether minor or extreme, I want to catch that and learn from my faults to improve on being a better individual.
Sorry for the long read ( ~ w ~ ' ) It's a bad habit of mine; for short, I'm saying that I agree with you
@@coatimundi69 As a white gay man, I can attest to the veracity of that. But we also need to be aware not to diminish or invalidate someone's experience just because they come from a racial or gender privileged position. No excuse for gay men displaying sexist behaviour, no excuse for white gay people being racially prejudiced. Just to add some nuance I feel is also important
"you can be priveleged AND disadvantaged at the same time." When you say this you mean white people only right? If you're 1% of the 1% an oil rich black man who rules a country in Africa, that means you're disadvantaged?'
@@ghostlyfae8721 I've been trying to better myself now by listening to others without quick assumptions/judgements (against POC only, right, not all human beings just POC?) and to become more aware of people's emotions/behaviors (unless they're not POC than fuck'em, right?) as a way to understand why we may act the way we do. As well, that if my actions show any concern of bias (racism, (against POC only) transphobia, or any sorts of prejudice/discriminatory views (against POC only) sorry just want to be clear, there are white kids who think they have human rights and we have to make sure they know they don't right), whether minor or extreme, I want to catch that and learn from my faults to improve on being a better indi
I can’t stand the colorism that persists in so many cultures. I have always heard “You’re pretty for a dark skinned girl/woman” as if my skin color was an automatic disadvantage in even being considered attractive. Really?! Same with my hair. I will inform an individual real quick. If they have the nerve to say something ridiculous and biased to me, then they’ve earned the opportunity to be schooled. Hopefully the next time they will consider the impact of their words and thoughts.
I can`t believe that a person with an IQ higher than their own shoe size would say things like "you`re pretty for a dark skinned girl/woman".. I mean; REALLY?!!! it shows a complete lack of social intelligence!!
I'm a ginger guy.
I've heard that quite a few times.
I agree about that being a poor choice of words. However a lot of white people sadly don’t find many black people attractive. I have not once been attracted to a black person irl, ONLY in pictures and movies. The sad thing is that I cannot do anything about this. I WANT black women to have a better chance at romance than they have but the fact is that I simply am not attracted to extremely dark skinned black girls
@@savary5050 Your comment alone speaks from a position of assuming the opinion of white people is a validation in some way. Did you ever consider that many of those same women could be thinking the same thing about you? In fact the majority of people stick with their own race due to their shared culture, religious beliefs, general proximity and also socioeconomic reasons. I take issue with society leaning towards Eurocentric standards and measuring all others against it. These beliefs are particularly harmful when applied in the work force ,education, health care, etc. Colorism is racism’s counterpart and a by product of colonialism. Many don’t recognize all the subliminal messages that reinforce these ridiculous beliefs on a daily basis.
Instead of feeling sad for dark skinned black women or wishing you were more attracted to them , do a self eval to see where you fall on the scale of bias and prejudice. Work on changing the way you see the world and most off all keep the judgments to yourself if you are a part of the problem. This would be much more productive than simply wishing better for dark skinned women.
The very existence of so many variations in human appearance is amazing to me. There is too much beautiful diversity in our world to be limited to just one standard.
@@NewMoon1972 There's nothing wrong with having a type. The only problem is when society itself has a type.
As a mixed person who sees this in his whole family while not being accepted by said family... I needed this a lot. Thank you.
Same
Proof that this division among many began at home and have destroyed many relationships among siblings.
I remember when my aunt kept praising the girl next to me for having really pale skin, and I almost cried. I was never told that my tan skin was uGLy, but never received positive attention either :(
Your skin is beautiful, but you are Beautiful
Hair options in games bother me way more than it should. Basically character creation usually boils down to me saying "fuck it I'm going with anime hair"
The only videogame character maker that I've seen with a diverse black hair choice is the Nintendo miis
I once spent an entire day searching for a black hair mod for the sims because I wanted to recreate one of my OC's in the game. I ended up getting a virus -.-
Or going bald
😂 oh my god dude
For real. The sims 4, a game that's literally about simulating life, launched with maybe 3 or 4 unambiguously black skintones (out of probably like 15 or 20 or so), and very very few afro-textured or even curly hairs. They've gotten better over time, releasing more hairs and more skins. But still. Insane. And I get it, the polys are high if you try to create every curl or kink individually. Just try to get the general shape of a fro and slap a high res texture on it ffs.
Sings: 'White plus papaya, my skin so white.'
YIKES
What a bunch of BULLSHIT 😂
I jumped out of my bed when that came on. I had to hold my chest as the air left it. I can't believe that was a real ad lol
Cozy Raps : You’ll find skin whitening ads super abundant in Asia. As T1J said, skin color equals class.
No one wants to be associated with poverty and of the lower class. Dark-skinned people especially women will often be told by their friends and peers “OMG, you’re so dark. Stay out of the sun and use these skin whitening cream”
Imagine being told this when you are only a toddler
I've traveled in SE Asia a lot and the poorer, darker-skinned women all wear foundation or something that is WAY too pale for them. They have these grey faces and brown necks, looks weird but it's widespread.
I reached this comment and hear that playing I cracked up so hard.
I remember being in highschool and a dark skin football player said he wished he was light like me.. my heart broke and I wanted to tell him so badly how beautiful he was but I was to scared.
I dated this guy once and we started talking about our "type". He said "I don't like black girls" and when I asked him why he said "I just don't find them attractive". And I said "how can you say ALL black women are unattractive? Literally millions upon millions of women are black in this world, and you say you have never thought a black woman was beautiful?" and he was like "yeah pretty much". I tried to get him to explain why he had these beauty standards, but he couldn't elaborate. I was honestly shocked. I have huge doubts that it was only about attraction, I'd say that's pretty racist.
I don’t think that’s racist, it’s just his preference probably.
@@unspecifiedunit9126 how is race a preference? Like? It sounds racist because he generalized all black people. Without any real reason on why he doesn’t like it.
@@unspecifiedunit9126 it’s not a preference if you are closed minded
I’ve seen super brown guys say they are only attracted to whites girls 🤣 like wtf🤡
@@unspecifiedunit9126 shhhh go back to twitch
"You can be privileged and disadvantaged at the same time." THANK YOU!
Most people are privileged and disadvantaged at the same tine by very different reasons.
How🤔...
@@dennisngugi1102 someone can be white but gay, or black but straight, or be white and straight but very poor, of having an illness... I'm gay and still think I'm vastly priviledged compared to straight white guys who live in far more difficult conditions than me.
@@Ignasimp or be tall or short. Or good looking vs ugly.
Can dark skin bw have pretty privilege? ruclips.net/video/kNQU_HrQvS8/видео.html
The preference for tan white people might be in part a reversal of the aristocratic associations with whiteness. Working people often spend their time indoors, while the leisure class has the time and money to tan and take care of their bodies. This, and the sexualisation of darker-skinned groups, such as latina's or black men/women, and thus also of white people with the same attributes.
Yeah. In the olden days being fair skinned implied you didn't have to work outdoors and had a lot of leisure time, which implied a certain level of social class.
Nowadays, being tanned means you've probably spent a lot of leisure time either outdoors or abroad, which again, implies a certain level of social class.
@@JoneseyBanana Which would also explain the growing obsession with fitness. More time and wealth to be able to afford to take care of your body.
The other factor is that tanned skin objectively speaking makes a smile look whiter, a person look thinner, eyes look less tired and hides our very Caucasian pink skin resulting from broken capillaries and various other maladies. When I started tanning I realized I just looked objectively better, which is when I started to view darker skinned women as objectively more attractive than us. Which they are, if you remove a white supremacy lens.
@Gurl EYee How is finding someone beautiful a form of guilt? I'm a white lady myself, and a lot of other white women just look awkward to me. Of course, black women do too at times, but I feel like they carry their beauty differently, and have better looking bodies and faces overall. And telling someone to kill themselves is never nice, shame on you.
Rich people started travelling to tropical locations and tanning, which meant browner skin was associated with wealth, which created the fake tan industry..
"We all black" sounds exactly like "all lives matter" to me. Anyone who thinks that the black community will be unified by ignoring the social hierarchies that exist within the community are exactly the same as the people who say that racism will go away if we ignore the inequities caused by racism.
Right
@Vanessa Lotachi We don't have a choice. We are GOING to deal with it for the rest of our lives. The question is, do people who are not directly and personally affected negatively by it, want to be better human beings, or not?
Well said.
Can dark skin bw have pretty privilege? ruclips.net/video/kNQU_HrQvS8/видео.html
But they are hierarchies created by whites. So yall intend to let euroxentric ideology control you? Again why attack the person? I can't help I'm light anymore than someone can help they are dark. Keep in mind it's only a matter of how vfrequently our foremithers were RAPED. Who tf is celebrating that? If you're Black american and your folks survived slavery, then you got that white dna too and that could spring up in your kids. Bet you'd sing a different tune then
as a "non dark skin indian guy " i knew this . its on our culture , cinema , and everything .
They tell WoC they're too dark, and need to lighten, and white women that they're too pale and need to tan. If they tell everyone that there's something wrong with them, they can sell everyone a product to fix it. They can never just let a woman get away with thinking the features she was born with are okay
Edit: I was only commenting on sexism and how beauty standards are set up so that no woman can meet them. I was not trying to imply that a pale white woman faces the same discrimination as a dark skinned black woman. While all women face sexism, white women have the privilege of no racism layered on top of it.
Exactly! And NONE of these products are safe. The skin lightener creams have small amounts of Mercury. A lot of women will overuse these creams in hopes of quicker results only to poison themselves for beauty standards. Same with white women and tanning. When I'm told I'm "too pale" I tell people "enjoy your skin cancer". I feel darker black women could say the same to the paler people who give them greif. There are pros and cons to all skin colors. The pro of dark skin is you are less likely to get skin cancer. The con is that it's harder for you to absorb vitamin D from the sun. The pro and con to pale skin is just the opposite. Sure you can absorb vitamin D easier but you also risk getting skin cancer. Melanin is natures sunblock for humans. As far as other pros and cons go it's strictly social. But the problem is that we always assume the grass is greener on the other side. People assume other races are never demonized. The truth is WE ARE ALL DEMONIZED based on our skin color. White=racist. Black=thug. But I think many people fall for that narrative because they listen to too much news and confuse reality with what's on t.v. Pretty sure if people got out more and met more people they wouldn't believe these sterotypes. It's almost as if the media produces bias AND confirmation bias.
Edit: just saw the edit of "white women don't face racism". Wow. Really? You don't want people assuming things about your life but you go around assuming things about others lives? Have YOU ever been told to your face by a woman in financial aide that you couldn't get a grant because of your race? I have. Has anyone ever told you that you're a "devil"/ "demon" because "your race" is inheriently evil? Bet you haven't. But I have. Have YOU ever had someone tell you that all babies who have the same skin tone as you should be murdered out of fear that their children would be murdered of those said babies grew up? No you haven't. I have. Have you ever been accused of slavery and oppression because school cirriculum omitted facts about history? Well your comment pretty much says that you haven't. Imagine if the roles were reversed where history classes taught ONLY about black and Native American slave owners but never the white slave owners? Imagine they made white people out the same way they do black people. Would it be fair of white people to say that you,as a black person, are not only inheriently evil because of your melanin but that you also will never know racism? If you don't think that would be fair of me or anybody else to do and if you actually CAN relate to what I'm saying then guess what sis? We're in the same boat. It's just nobody bothered telling you that you are no better than me and I'm no better than you.
Hell yes you explained it perfectly
Not the same
@@chihirosen6996 I wouldn't go as far as saying the grass isn't greener on the white side.
I was making a comment on sexism in our society, and how it makes women wrong/not enough no matter what they do/are. (E.g. SAHMs and working moms both being told they made the wrong choice)
White women benefit from white privilege, but are still at the mercy of sexism. They get the shittiness of the beauty industry, but it's not wrapped up in a big racism sandwich the way that it is for black women, and other WOC.
Like he says in the video, it's possible to be privileged and disadvantaged at the same time.
Blame corporations who are teaching our small girls that they have to do something in order to be beautiful... dont put down another woman for her look, we should stand together. The World is enough cruel for us (and mindfucking)
When it comes to white people tanning, there's a link to that with wealth. If you go on vacation to somewhere warm and sunny you come back with a tan. I knew a girl who used bronzer as foundation after spring break because she expected all her friends to be tan from their vacations and didn't want to be left out. If you have harsh tan lines, you were probably working a job outside, but if you have the bikini lines, then you were just out in the sun to relax
you are raising the valid point, it is the difference between having the time to spend in the sun and having to spend time in the sun - there is a world of difference between a ”beach tan” and a ”farmer's tan” - it isn't about lighter being better, rather that a heavy ”tan” is a sign of outdoor manual labour - white collar workers get their tan in a bottle, from a salon or on a beach.
Constantly fingering Europeans for endemic cultural biases is racist in of itself - pale skin was considered attractive in Chinese and Japanese courts purely because the lack of a tan was considered a sign of wealth.
It isn't that lighter is better, it's that lighter tended to mean wealthier. In the North pale skin suggests you can't afford a holiday in the sun, but too much of a tan indicates that all you did was lie in the sun - hence the desirability of people with a ”healthy tan” - it shows they can afford to travel, know how to look after themselves and probably do more than lounge around on holiday.
There's also the simple fact that tanning appears to even out blemishes in skin tone, blemishes in a pale girl stand out more.
so those super tanned seem to have better, more even skin.
I can only confirm this! As a swede living in northen sweden where we dont see the sun for ~3 months during the darkest part of the winter, if someone shows up with a tan in december every one knows that that person could afford a sunny holiday far away. And yes they will be admired for that tan, for that person have seen the sun and can prove it. And the craving for sunshine in december is high!
@@Sarah-ru2pd yeah that is really what it is, you also look slimmer, your muscles are more defined, hence why body builders put on that dark fake tanner before shows. Has nothing to do with "perceived wealth" and vacationing.
Sub.Blonde never heard the theory about looking slimmer and muscles more defined...really?!
This was one of the most articulate and detailed description of colourism I have watched on RUclips. I think you do a really really good job in helping to provide insight into this topic for people who are not familiar with it .
ive never seen someone explain colorism this well (and cover all the aspects of it). thank you!
The weird thing is that, in America, the newest standard of beauty is no longer to be pale and clearly white but rather to have “watered down” black features. They want you to have plump lips, but not big ones. Curly hair, but not kinky. Tan skin, but not dark. They want white people who look like they’re mixed with somethin.
That’s a huge thing that makes me wary of some of the super popular black women today.. Amandla and Zendaya are constantly praised for being strong beautiful black women, and they ARE black, but the thing is that they don’t have the “bad” black features, they only have the “good” ones. People need to find FULLY black people with noticeably African features beautiful, not just mixed black people who have the ideals.
EDIT: I can’t believe people are still arguing over this, on god. For y’all to say that mixed black people aren’t black... I know half black half Latino people that look fully black, are they not black now? What about African Americans, most of which are at least 10% white, are they black? Or are they only allowed to claim to be mixed because you have this racist “only purebreds are really black uwu” idea??? What are y’all gonna do in like 50 years where most of the planet is mixed race and nobody is fully anything anymore? What ACTUALLY offends you about a woman such as Beyoncé claiming to be black when she is majority black? Do you deadass look at Beyoncé and say that she’s not black? How many tapeworms are in your brain bro?????
EDIT 2 because y’all can’t stop being racist: I don’t care how much you hate mixed people and want to force them to adopt “mixed” or “biracial” as a race. I don’t care that you don’t want them to be able to embrace half of their DNA, or either half of it simply because you have this batshit insane idea that only Purebred Blacks are allowed to claim to be Black. I do think that you should consider why you think it makes sense for you, a presumably Black person, to discriminate and strip mixed Blacks of their racial and cultural identities as if Blacks haven’t had that done to them enough. Remember that the reason you speak English is because racists stripped your ancestors of their African languages. The reason you don’t know what subsaharan African country your ancestors are from is because racists made them forget. The reason you don’t have traditional clothing is because racists wouldn’t let your ancestors wear it. The reason so many African Americans are lighter than Blacks in Africa is because white men raped our great great great great great great grandmas. The children born from that racism were still Black, and if they didn’t identify as such it was purely for their own safety.
You can continue trying to rationalize your desire to demonize biracial Blacks for simply calling themselves Black, but none of your seemingly endless excuses actually help your case. You just seem like a racist asshole.
TDLR for the edits: If you’re half black + half something else, you are allowed to claim both races and your race doesn’t suddenly become “biracial” or “mixed”. Zendaya is black and white, she has two races. She is not just “mixed”. Calling her Black does not mean that she is only Black, it means that one of her races is Black; unless the question is more specific and you’re expected to give all the details, you don’t have to state Everything. It’s not lying by omission to just not answer a question that wasn’t even asked and truly didn’t even need to be answered
It’s kind of the same with white people. They do have bad features too and most of the time they only show the ones with good features.
Mila A that’s true and the only way brown and dark skinned women like myself are considered to be beautiful or stunning is if we have Eurocentric features such as a narrow, pointy nose, high cheekbones, etc. basically, you have to look like a baby doll.
Mila A that’s true too! It’s not right all the way around!
Mixed is not black it's just mix
mixed period
Yentile Simelane wdym?
Honestly never understood why or how someone could look at deep skin tones and not find them beautiful. The way saturated, primary, and even neon colors can contrast with dark skin is absolutely gorgeous imo.
Like I watched this music video recently where a black young woman played the main casting role, playing a goddess like form, and wowww I was actually stunned by her beauty, like absolutely stunned, I literally just thought wow. They way she played her role and everything, just wow. How could you not think dark skin is beautiful??
I mean people are allowed to have their own preferences
Agreed. super dark skin is so beautiful. Im friends with a lovely lady from Nigeria and she is an absolute GODDESSSSSS
I feel like it's just a taste thing people have. just like how people like different colors over others.
I also think black skin looks really nice. I remember watching Rush Hour 1 and got to the part where Carter and Lee go to downtown LA into a bar and met the head of the establishment in the back. He was black and was wearing this neon red color suit and I remember thinking, "Wow, he looks really fucking cool."
(This isn't a diss on white skin, I'm just giving my thoughts)
One of the weirdest things I’ve experienced growing up is that only other dark skinned women would comment how beautiful my dark skin was. I’ve never heard anyone else make that comment, and I used to get offended when family members would say that I was as dark as my dad. Like I didn’t want to be that dark. I’ve grown to love my skin tone but it took a long time lol
These videos are so educational, I feel like even my parents would be able to learn something from them, thank you so much!
I’m mixed from my dad’s side but I have light brown skin. I remember one time when I was 10, I went to my friends pool party, I didn’t wear sun screen at all and I spent so much time in the sun. So when I got picked up by my dad I was worried he’d get mad at me for not wearing sunscreen. But instead he yelled at me because my skin had gotten so dark. And I mean really REALLY dark. I was heartbroken by his words but I tried to play it off because I didn’t want to show how embarrassed I was. He made a huge scene in front of my friends mother. To this day I’m still a bit brain washed from the whole incident. I try to avoid being in the sun. I feel like a goddamn vampire.
Vitamin D darling and melanin are great resources.
You got that natural sun protection theres people that cant even stay out too long in low sun levels for any period time with out feeling skin irritation, bad ideas will take a blessing and make it into a curse.
I'm sorry for the traumatic sun/pool experience. I hope you can one day release that pain and see the beauty of your skin, in its entire spectrum of shades. Brown skin is blessed with melanin, which protects your skin and health; it's activated by the sunshine. I wish you peace and self-acceptance - and a tan! Jajaja.
I’m so sorry this happened ❤️
Kirra Adams I’m doing much better with that, I’m so much darker now that I go out in the sun all the time but I love it!
What I don't understand is why is it that people think that it's a compliment when they tell you that you're cute to be a dark skinned girl. FYI, it's not a dam compliment nd it's offensive af🤦🏾♀️
Facts
Reminds me of something a cousin of mine said as a response to my dad saying someone didn't look good, she pretty much started saying "she does look good! She looks really good for a-" I noticed it and called her out for it cause I knew she would've said black (woman/girl)
so when people tell me i have beautiful blond hair and freggles, i should be offended...? wake up girl... that's plain ridiculous and says more about you than about the person who says to you that you're a cute dark skinned girl... obviously you're not really able to allow someone to give you a compliment and to receive it... have you ever thought about that?
@@Karin-fj3eu that's another implication if you ask me....
That's like telling a woman you're cute to be so big or anything like that, as if the traits are mutually exclusive.
some rappers talking about light skinned girls meanwhile pop smoke "I like dark skins, love the melanine" rip 💫💫
Clearly you havent heard his song praising light skinned women? "light skin, yellow, redbone..."?
THANK YOU for recording these, I love your channel.
I had a conversation on this , black men don’t like talking about colorism because they are the ones perpetuating it 💁🏾♀️🤷🏽♀️
Sometimes I just wish everyone was the same damn race so we wouldn't have issues like this. Sure there'd still be conflict after all just look st wars between people of rrrthe same ethnic background.
But at LEAST something as idiotic as racism wouldn't exist. I'm mixed but I mostly look black, and I wish I could just blend in and "exist" sometimes. And I want to travel but I don't know how other cultures see people like me or if I'll even be treated with basic human decency.
Of course this is just a sad thought I get from time to time, and I think things are somewhat getting better and thr culmination of races and cultures is cool. I just wish people could see everyone as an INDIVIDUAL and not judge someone based on stuff they can't control.
Humans are bleh sometimes.
No, it's mostly black women. Most of them gravitate towards light skinned men. (I'm black by the way)
Highly Defective untrue. Black men are more likely to date other races.
@@westindianmermaid4711 lol. If so, then wtf keeps getting black women pregnant?
Highly Defective LMFAO DO YOU KNOW WHY? Bc dark skin men gravitate to light or white women
You had me at “chocolate boi”
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Thank you for making this! I hope everyone in the world gets to see this
These kind of conversations are so important to have. Conversations like these are really needed. Especially in climates like the one we live in rn. Thank you for discussing & enlightening. You inspire me :) .
My Mexican family and community is very colorist, but it's treated as a joke.
Fo real
Same here and it sucks
Truth
Its only a joke, when youre on the light side
@@elupemano8758 yee :/
I get so irritated when I hear rappers use "light skin" exclusively to explain an attractive woman. So we're just going to keep this going huh? Okay
Neda They should be ashamed but wap is not about empowerment.
@@artemissunandmoon at all😭
Uh, have you seen people in my country?gangsters (other people but mainly gangsters)just 'bleach'their skin,I think it's just a trend or something,I am 14 so I don't really get why they're doing it, probably a trend,because my mother says that people didn't like brown skinned people but now everyone is doing it.Again, probably a trend.
Rappers portray the American ideals of sexual exploitation, objectification of women, extreme materialism, obsession with money, violence, and machismo. Let's keep it 💯! We see this in most of the artistic media that the USA imports. This is what music studio execs demand, regardless of what the artist wants to express.
Exactly!! That's problematic and it's time that they are all called out on it.
You are such a great teacher @t1j
You are so inspiring
Firstly, I laughed at the yo mama joke, sorry. And secondly, Polynesians need to learn more about this as well, even when babies are born the first thing some aunties and uncles would say is “wow, they’re so dark” but in a disappointing tone. I never really recognized this until later in my life and it’s horrible, growing up hearing this and thinking that dark skinned Tongans were not beautiful. Even my mom said she tried her best to look as light skin as she could growing up 🤦🏽♀️
I lived in Thailand for a bit on a research project and I could never find any sunscreen or even face or body wash or deodorant that wasn’t “skin whitening”. My friends were all very conscious of wanting to look lighter. It’s really sad how prevalent this is
Mexie that’s horrible.
Wow!
Great video. I'm a white guy myself who theoretically knew about this for most my post-childhood life, but it was only after dating and marrying a dark skinned black woman that I became aware of just how absurdly pervasive it is to this day.
As a lot of other people have already pointed out, even when video games, toys, etc throw black representation a bone they often overlook facial features, hair types, etc.
@Derek Lowe Derek, we live in diverse societies that should be reflected in our products and media. This whole "white help" narrative is ridiculous. I don't understand American white supremacists, you construct this idea of "whiteness" for yourself to latch on to an identity. I'm Greek/Dutch I come from heavily distinct cultures that have their own unique history and things they are responsible for, both good and bad, I'm caucasian but I'm not "White". New inventions build up on one another and I can fucking assure you that history was not just written by caucasians. The first writing systems emerged in the middle east, Indians were the first to perform medical diagnosis, mining first emerged as a practice in Zwaziland, south Africa, and the Chinese have had goddamn earthquake detectors since 132 AD. This idea of catering to specific racial groups while not taking others into consideration is ludicrous, people should create for people, who cares if they're brown or black? You better stop using paper now, the Chinese didn't make it for you.
My Sims can only have European or Asian features. 🙄
@Derek Lowe You read and rebutted nada of what I said. Talking to you is useless. Have a good day.
Derek Lowe we live in diverse societies because Europeans explored the world, decided places they visited belonged to them, and, being too lazy to do their own work, kidnapped whole other groups and imported them to Europe and the Americas to use them as forced labor and sexual servitude. Even Euro-centric history texts show that. Read a book once in a while.
Derek Lowe not since 1492.
I really appreciated listening to this. I also love that you mentioned the colorism issue in Asia. I thought that colorism/racism was mainly an American issue until I moved to ASia an realized that I was so sooo wrong.
This was really good, I am glad I found you. Keep on keepin on.
The more I deal with these phenomena, the more I appreciate my parents. My mother is a dark skinned woman and my father was a dark skinned man. Both were considered to be super attractive. Growing up they both made sure I had plenty of black dolls -no white baby dolls, only white barbies. I grew up with comments from both celebrating the beauty of the diversity of color, especially of black women. Therefore, I never succumbed to colorism. I never felt less than for being a dark-skinned Black woman. It starts in the home, y’all.
Agree
As dark skin woman growing up I had both disrespect and celebration of my skin tone. I had a great set of confident parents. My mom is dark mahogany and my dad has a deep dark skin tone like me. I like your comment because there are few dark skin women that have this 50/50 type of experience with colorism. Often if you say it was not your experience to have a total break down due to it, you are criticized for not acknowledging it enough.
India is a case study in colorism.
Yeah isn't the whole "aryan" thing from there?
@@Hubert_Cumberdale_ yeah its an indian word. I remember bragging about being more Aryan because Im lighter skinned than most Indians. Makes me cringe now.
i was told as a kid that i wasnt 'too dark' so there was hope for me to look nice. im brown skinned, not very dark but brown so i apparently 'have nice features but look better if i was lighter'
i dont even care. i like my skin tone just the way it is
And I'd say casteism too., since light skinned Indians are a lot of time of high caste.
@@ANTSEMUT1 not always but yeah ig. majority of times they are fair bc theyre from the north
I learned so much watching you. Thank you 🙏🏻
I've been having a lot of conversions with my dad about racial in/justice. We didn't grow up together, so these convos are showing me that he is open to learning. I just sent this to him. Thank you for this content. It's making a difference. I don't even know how to express my hope that other people treat you right today and everyday. Be well and take care.
Couldn’t agree more! Thank goodness makeup is improving today, but most companies make shades like ✋🏻✋🏻✋✋✋✋✋✋✋✋✋✋✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏽✋🏽✋🏾✋🏾✋🏿
lily. It’s often even without the last one. Which is so stupid.
Makes me think back to that Beauty blender „range“,
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Talk about the bronzers, its like one shade for all dark skinned people, like wtf
The one I hate is when there’s like 40 shades but the store only carries 20. And out of that 20 they have 5 deep/dark shades. So I either end up looking ashy or like a pumpkin 😶
South East Asian here. In our case, we didn't even need colonizers to brainwash us into thinking whiter = better!
Also the fact that your face remains deadpan whenever you make jokes kills me more than the jokes themselves hdjfhsmdjsl
D W that was hilarious
Derek Lowe nah, a lot of us could care less about white skin so...
Nice name bro!
In school, I'm light skinned and most people, especially black people don't believe I'm fully black but I am. And it hurts when they acknowledge mixed dark skinned people as fully black but not me and I'm fully black. My parents are Brown, my grandparents are brown, but my great grandparents are light skinned. And those genes were passed to me and my sister. Like in my school, nobody cared about your race that much, if you didn't line up with what race you are supposed to look like, you were an outcast.
I super appreciate your videos. You make these topics extremely accessible and provide much-needed comic relief of tension with your wit.
I hope Subscribee grows up to be a great champion.
This song about papaya is just asking to become a meme
god I hope it does, it's hilarious
filipino ads are the freaking best, man.
most filipino ads are (coming from a filipino who has to listen to them)
Ella Aspinall By best you mean worst though.
Disgusting yet amusing
Okay that "My skin's so White" song....wtf😂😂😂😂
Fr 😔
The thing is that commercial is from my country so I thought it was just a regular RUclips Ad until I couldnt find the skip button for a few seconds.
And oh boy, that's literally normal here in the Philippines. If you have lighter skin, it means you're wealthier and/or more attractive. Lately in the past few decades we're having a resurgence of loving our natural brown/dark-brown skin, but this obsession with achieving fairer skin is so ingrained in our culture you can't get away from it entirely
@@danegonzales5651 I watched it a couple weeks ago on RUclips. I thought it was a vine at first lol.
I know right 😂😂😂
and we have to go through that shit everyday here 😭✌️ im tired, im embarassed. (that ad is from my country lol)
So glad you mentioned the white fixation with tanning too...that doesn't get a lot of airtime..very insightful video, thanks for addressing it. 🙏
I'm from Scadinavia and people often call me pale or very light skinned(not as a compliment), I think it's because most people here are naturally light and want a more "tanned" look. When it's summer everybody religiously goes outside to tan in front of the sun for hours to get a darker skin tone, of course I've done it too but then I came to the realization that.... it's incredibly boring. And not to mention bad for your skin :/
People calling me pale even made me self conscious which is insane when you think about it, haha. It's so stupid how we care about how dark or light your skin is. I've learned not to care about that anymore, it's such a fucking waste of time.
Nice vid, cheers.
yeah but you'll never know what discrimination it is like me who denied me a job for being too dark
Happened the same to me in South America. Here pale people are often mocked for their light skin so I tanned a lot of times until I realized it was stupid (and after getting sunburned a few times), so now I embrace my paleness.
I'm very pale. My sisters tan year round. They make fun of me and say "you need to tan". They say "tan fat looks better than white fat" I've been told I'm "mayonnaise whilte", "fish belly white". It's like a status symbol to spend money to get darker. When we were teenagers we would mix iodine and baby oil and slather it on to lay in the sun. Also sprayed hair spray on our skin and layed in the sun to tan. For white folks, being in the sun means you are wealthy enough for holidays and vacations. It doesn't compare to the Black Experience by any means. It's just an observation of how humans judge each other on skin color. After all these years I just say, " I came out of the womb white and I'm not going to change it so yall will think I'm prettier."
@@strange.person Me too.
It always frustrated me in RPGs when I couldn't make a black character - I can't imagine how frustrating it must be for someone who is black to just make a character that looks kind of like them.
@Derek Lowe you'll find any reason to talk shit about black people, huh ?
you know what game was always great for representation? Sims. It’s not an rpg but it’s always had plenty of skin tones, gay people, and added in trans people in sims 4.
It’s always been god awful for hairstyles of all races though.
I'm black and it is fustruating. What I also find frustrating is that I am a girl and there is hardly any girl options in cool games as well.
@@Nakia11798 I'm white and I play both Sims 3 and 4 and I have to get a ton of CCs for my sims who have darker skin tones and black hairstyles, it bothers me how there's like no good dreads or curly hair in the base game T_T
@@Nakia11798 Dauntless has different "black"hairstyles and you can thicken your lips and widen your nose....too bad the game is not as amazing as the character building lol.
I'm very glad in recent years there has been more dark-skinned representation in Hollywood. Not enough, but it's something.
I've been seeing Sterling K. Brown a lot more recently and it makes me really happy. I first saw him as a vampire hunter in Supernatural and he was great. His voice is like cold hard iron, it makes him a really bone-chilling antagonist
Ethan Hartley Hastings I’m curious to see studies on if it’s more, or just marketed more. Female representation is still at an unchanging trend down for the past several years, but it doesn’t seem like it if you don’t count.
made me think of Daniel Kaluuya
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@Derek Lowe Well most african countries rarely have any white people and the ones who do have a ton of white people in their movies like South Africa.
America however has a significant black population.
Ok you got my sub, not just for the dope content, but also for the Abe ( Of Abe's Oddysee/ Exodus) Reference.
That heckle after the white skin cream cracked me tf up🤣🤣🤣
But in all seriousness thank you for this.
I have a hard time putting my opinions into words because I go from left to right and than up and down when explaining shit.
But your videos put them is such a chill and understanding way.
Even if all people of the world mixed to the point of homogany, there would still be colorism.
@Luce M it'll be achieved 1 day, atleast as long as the planet doesn't collect
If it wasn’t skin color it would be eye color or earlobe shape. People will find something to hate.
@Luce M Greetings my previous post was rushed and poorly executed (I am was writing on my cellphone). Yes, everyone experiences discrimination throughout their lives. To the Black people who choose to be colorist, they're displaying the negative, long lasting effects of slavery and colonialism. It's a damn, shame that anyone who has more Eurocentric features are praised as being the standard for beauty. However, I think it is important to have frank and honest conversations about colorism (or any other ism) in order for people to see it's not some isolated incidence. Regardless, which side of the political spectrum one is on, people should be able to speak openly and condemn such harmful ideologies.
@@lobosolo2884 right, it's so sad
@@lobosolo2884 So that's why we should just learn to accept how we were born looking no matter who says what.
I remember when I was a child I saw a movie where a “dark skinned” boy used all his money to buy soap to try to “clean” his dark skin away and wondered “why would he do that? I’m darker than him and I LOVE my dark skin.” Now as a 20 year old I wonder where that love went.
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I'd seen that movie when I was little too! when the aunty yells at the boy to accept who he is and then at his mentors for making him feel ashamed was so memorable
Heck, what movie was it?
Thank you so much for making this video!! It's incredibly educational, as a non-American in the States
I was looking for the Skid Ad button when I saw the "Skin So White" ad from the Philippines and thought, that was ironic. Then I realized it was part of the video!
I haven't been watching local TV to see if ads like these are still prevalent, but there's been some campaigns to bring awareness about colorism, so at least there's that.
Great video!
We’re of northern French descent (read: translucent white, pale eyes) and my mother hated my brother’s girlfriend instantly. She was funny, nice, family-oriented and of French descent too, but had black hair, warm skin, brown eyes and it took me years to figure out that was what my mom had against her. It’s literally the stupidest thing in the world, but it seems to exist in all cultures. Thanks for posting this. Maybe more people will think about the biases and cut it out.
How dark skinned was she?
@@savary5050 warm lol
So she was of Mediterranean, Turkish, or Jewish descent?
French girls don't like tanning?? Whaaatttttt
@@aygulmemet4201 you can remove a tan. It's like putting your hair in cornrows despite not being a Black person, or wearing Native American headdresses despite not being Native. It's just a cool exotic costume that you can take off at the end of the day and go back to enjoying white privilege. On the other hand, an actual person from a minority culture or race celebrating their own origins or walking around with naturally dark skin is considered undesirable and they are penalized for it.
In Europe historically the upper class, who didn't need to work outdoors valued their untanned skin. Marble-like transparent skin showing blue veins was fashionable - hence "blue bloods". This changed, when manual labour moved from predominantly agriculture to working in factories indoor. Outdoor activities and hence a tan became synonymous with leisure time and sports activities in sunlight and therefore more attractive.
Very interesting, thanks!
You're right about society having a preference for the 'milk chocolate' part of the spectrum. I have been saying it for years and people said that I was imagening stuff. Thanks Bro!
I’m half Mexican and half Filipino. My great aunt brought back beauty products from the Philippines saying it was the “best”. The products contained lightening ingredients and said “whitening” on the front. I wear sunscreen and hats ONLY because I have acne and the sun can make my acne scars worse lol. I have brown skin btw