In the novelization, when Scotty meets Marcus, he gets wildly happy to meet the man and gushes about his (Marcus's) inventions. Then later when Bones questions Scotty about giving Marcus the formula, Scotty more clearly states that Marcus did invent transparent aluminum and that it might even be necessary to give him the formula so he can do so.
Three words: -Transwarp beaming device- Just these three...because after all these years...I´m still lost for words..... This one beats every scene with John Harrison.
Doesn’t transwarp mean that they can transport while at warp speeds, not being able to warp transport the individual. You can’t transport an individual across the galaxy but to or from a fast travelling ship at short distances. Before this everyone had to be still. This is where he compares transwarp to “hitting a bullet with a smaller bullet while riding a horse blind folded”. A massive misunderstanding to “transwarp”
I remember seeing Into Darkness in the theater, and when Benedict Cumberpatch said, "My name is Khan," a guy in the row behind me yelled out "Bullshit!"
U know, I wonder if it would have been better to have another one from Kahn's crew to be the person that admiral Marcus used for section 31 and have kahn as a tease for a future movie.
Star Trek V... To be honest, let's keep in mind that McCoy and Kirk have melded with vulcans, and Spock is half vulcan himself... So it should provide them enough to resist Sybok's mind probe...
#7 I never understood why the Enterprise never rotated shield modulations during the battle in which it was destroyed, or why constantly rotating modulations never became standard.
Well. Even if they did, the information would have been relayed to the Klingons, because it would be Geordy remodulating the shields, but yeah - at least they should have tried.
@@antney7745 True. They were following standard starfleet anti-Klingon tactics, specifically "Let's let them get in a few good hits then take a few lazy shots at them to make it a fair fight, then cheat to win anyway."
You mention Generations and the Klingon sisters ability to shoot through the shields having seen what Geordie saw, however, was Generations not set after the Borg episodes in TNG where, after fighting the Borg, shields were changed over the fleet to what I believe was called 'Nutational Sheilds' where the shield frequency was rotated to increase efficiency and help specifically against the Borg, so while they might have seen the shield frequency once, and got one shot through, the second shot would have essentially done nothing as it would have hit the shields saving the Enterprise... THAT is my biggest issue with Generations..
For the ST: THE MOTION PICTURE, the wormhole effect was, at the time...epic. We stood in line for well over an hour in the bitter WISCONSIN cold that December weekend, and the theater was so packed that every seat was occupied once we were let in--some people even had to stand! Well, when the "wormhole effect" happened on the screen, the audience moved in unison to the time distortions, left and right. I swear to God, it was like the theater was moving around you. I still don't know how they did it or what technique they used to make those effects on the screen, but the audience reacted well to it and it was awesome!
I never had an issue with the wormhole special effects, and thought they made sense to what it might look & sound like in a wormhole, which is distorting space-time. I’m sure the special effects were ground breaking for the time, and I fee have aged rather well. There were much more special effects in 2001: A Space Odyssey that I think looked much more “trippy”, but even then I had no problems with them, and like that movie as well.
Never really understood all the negative vibes around the motion picture, never have a problem rewatching it You need to compare it with movies around at the time. Generations is my least favourite, I think I have only watched it twice, For me The wrath of Khan tops my list of original cast movies. Can remember wearing out 3 video tapes, before DVD came out As far TNG cast movies generations sucked You can ask 10 people the same question and get 10 varying answers
Good food for thought. Also always wished they'd made him either A. a non-Vulcan, B. not a full-blooded Vulcan, or C. prepared to explain how he could be so counter-culture to everything we know about Vulcans. My head-canon is that his mother is Romulan.
Wouldn't it have been more interesting if he had been a role model to Spock? Maybe the one Vulcan in Spock's youth who showed his kindness and support. His inspiration to join Starfleet perhaps. The brother thing was cheap and lazy.
@@christopherwilson3754 There was a deleted scene where Spock is tempted again after seeing his birth. Sybok and Spock relive the moment where Sybok has to leave Vulcan and Spock wants to go with him.
With Number 13 was funny because when I saw it 40 years ago with my older brother we were both on LSD. The wormhole effect was epic. My brother leaned over and asked if the effect was the movie or the drug. Laughed so hard. 🤣. Kids, don't do drugs. It was the 70s.
The wormhole was created by an imbalance in the warp drive, and it was screwing with time, that’s why everything was all trippy and slowed down, “NOOooooo, beellllllaaay that phassssseerrr orrrrddder, fiiiirrrre, phooooottttton torpeeeeedo.”
Yeah Uhura’s role in Star Trek III wasn’t complete. I agree the novelization fixes it perfectly. Also: THANK YOU for John Harrison in Into Darkness! Yes! Why did he have to be Khan? Harrison worked as an original character.
Harrison had to be Khan for multiple reasons. 1. Motivation for trying to destroy things. 2. Magic blood. 3. Old Spock had to tell the young Spock how to defeat him. 4. Bigger threat physically. etc. If he was just a regular guy then they would have to come up with a lot of new McGuffins to make the plot work.
As for the "James Tiberius Kirk" line from the 2009 Star Trek movie, maybe it was to show that while Jim Kirk was many things, he was never a boy scout.
@@JoeL-yq1iv First, it’s not a robot. Second, he didn’t yell at all. He said it in a quite normal “outside” voice. Third, he was absolutely just feeling some confidence, probably for the first time in a while, and wanted to show that by owning his own name. It was, after all, an appropriate response to the question he was asked. And last, he was a little kid, and little kids sometimes get rowdy or excited and behave accordingly. I don’t see the problem.
There are many movie mistakes that were explained in the novels. Scottys nephew, while technically not a mistake, was a huge hole in the story, the “boys club” regarding Uhura is another. Either make the movie a couple minutes longer, or leave the question marks on the cutting room floor.
But then this begs the question: is the novelization based on the original script/concepts, or is it written specifically to explain away plot holes with added/retconned material?
The reason Spock and McCoy don't follow Sybok is the actors refused to do it. Both felt there characters wouldn't betray Kirk. Shatner tried to convince them but failed and didn't change anything but this.
I’d agree, Spock & McCoy would never have betrayed Kirk. They were like brothers, would have never happened! Shatner is crazy, and doesn’t under stand the characters if he thinks they would have. Likewise Kirk would have never betrayed them, but apparently Shatner wanted to!
Nemesis has so many other issues than that, the stupid dune buggy, Troi's sexual assault, B4 being an obvious trap and getting all Data knowledge and Starfleet secrets, Young Picard's bald head in the picture. No Spock or Sela, why wasn't this movie about unification?
The problematic Deanna storyline may have been Rick Berman lashing out at Marina Sirtis for her being supposedly 'uppity' regarding her fee for this film. As well, concur with the premise that the story should have been about the underground dissidents in Romulus.
@@garyhall2770 only because anybody superior kept getting killed. Field promotions from dead man's boots was the quickest way to progress through the ranks, apparently.
My own thoughts re: Generations (and I liked the film): when Picard is in the Nexus and can go back to any time and place, why does he not go back to, I dunno, a few days before when he has Sorran on the Enterprise and could have easily just thrown him in the brig?
I don't think Picard knew you could leave until he met Guinan's shadow she left inside the Nexus. Since Kirk didn't know Guinan there's no way for him to have known.
The whole thing was dumb to be honest. Kirk agrees its not right because its not real, but then they go back to the planet where it sudden IS real? Are they just not still in the nexus?
try explaining that to your younger crew without ripping a bigger hole in the space time continuum that Kirk ever did. Or getting sedated for being nuts.
Or go to his family farm and warn his brother and nephew about the fire? But, as Aegis pointed out (and I as well as many other people have wondered since we first saw the film)... Was any of it real anyways? Seems to me that Picard just went to another fantasy where he and the legendary James T Kirk saved his Enterprise and billions of people on that planet.
The Klingon translation scene in STTUC, where communication expert uhura is using OLD BOOKS to try and talk to a Klingon outpost, is so unbelievably bad and such a stretch for a cheap laugh that it almost ruins the entire movie for me
@@DaPopeANata frankly it makes no sense for Uhura to be able to speak fluent Klingon or romulan for that matter oh there's so many problems with the Kelvin timeline
@James501. Right, because no one ever learns to be fluent in the other major powers' languages. I mean, diplomatic corps are so overrated. On the otherhand, if you are referencing why they didn't just rely on the universal translator I have al2ays dismissed it as being about as bad as google translate when it comes to syntax and idioms. I can see the Klingon comms officer now. Here come those humans with that translation software again.
With the universal translator doing a "good enough" job, no one needed to bother. Plus, it's only in Kelvan timeline that Uhura is a linguist first (see Enterprise) and a comms officer second. Though I'm surprised only Kirk learned it (secretly) as Spock could have picked it up in an afternoon and saved Uhura from "we am thy" type grammatical errors. But that wouldn't have been "funny".
My theory to Uhura having difficulty with Klingon was that she had her memory erased in the TOS episode “The Changeling” and had to relearn everything, and never got around to relearning Klingon.
I think you've misunderstood the scene with little Kirk, in the first kelvin movie. The boy was crazy mad because his Dad is dead and he was fighting with his mum's new boyfriend. When he answered the robo cop he was reinforcing his own identity for himself, not the cop.
@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit Kris W is referring to deleted stuff from a scene before that, where the "uncle" tells "Jimmy" that he's "nobody" and tells his older brother to leave (the teen is walking away from the house, backpack on his shoulder) because the "uncle" is a tyrant and Kirk's mother's boyfriend. The Corvette Stingray was actually Kirk's father's car and not the "uncle's." That's why he destroyed the car, it was a middle finger at the "uncle."
It was quite odd to give his full name; and we know it was a line forced into place; It would have worked to answer the officer "I'm James T Kirk" This is how Kirk always Identified himself in every Star Trek episode.
@@MrJohndoakes now had that explanation made it to the movie, it would have been cool, and added depth to Kirk. It would have made the scene where he asks old Spock if in the prime timeline, did he know his father, even more poignant!!
In First Contact, my second problem [after the Borg Queen] has always been the idea that the Borg have never faced anyone wielding projectile weapons before.
Thing is, we don't actually know if the Borg can adapt to projectile weapons or not. It's not too farfetched that a cyborg race advanced as them could adapt to bullets, but we've never SEEN it happen. The only times other than First Contact where projectiles have been used on the Borg are in non-canon novels, so that doesn't really count.
Third one...Kirk stole his abusive step-father's car. There's the reason. And usually you put your full name in official papers, which is probably why the robot-cop asked.
Just a thought on consistency: when Mudd went to court, the computer dinged him for sticking to an alias and again for just calling himself Harry. He finally realized he'd get nowhere until he formally stated his full name. Maybe it's common knowledge on Future Earth that computer-assisted officials hold out for middle names. Maybe even Kid Kirk would know that. An abusive father figure would seem to be a blemish on Roddenberry's humanist utopia. Maybe the penal system is good at enlightening inmates like him, though.
I saw Star Trek Into Darkness early enough in its run that many audience members were presumably watching it unspoiled. When John Harrison said, "I am Khan", there was widespread tittering in the audience.
But that could be bypassed with a officer. I always figured that when Data locked out the main computer he prevented both sides from making complex items like weapons to prevent an arms race.
I feel this misses two MUCH BIGGER mistakes in both Generations and First Contact. In Generations, why didn't Picard just go back much further into the past? He knew what Soran was going to do, why not go back to a time it's easier to prevent everything? And in First Contact, if the Borg could just go back in time like that, why didn't they do so elsewhere? No matter how you approach it, there are so many more obvious choices for the Borg to make than what they actually did in First Contact.
I don't know about generations, but with first contact that kinda explained it that it was after ww3 and all government were to the ground, so it was easy for the borg to conquer earth.
I don't know shit about Star Trek. But isn't their whole thing "add your distinct likeness to our own"? Maybe they don't want olde timey people? I have no idea, though.... I preferred Star Trek V!
My guess with Generations is they were going to replace the Enterprised D if he'd gone back further to stop Soran the ship wouldn't have been destroyed
My biggest problem with First Contact is that the Borg didn't have to travel to Earth and alert the Federation before going back in time, thus allowing the Enterprise to follow them. They could have just done their time travel in the Delta Quadrant or wherever that cube was coming from, traveled to Earth with no resistance at all and just enslaved all the unsuspecting humans. But then we wouldn't have an awesome Borg movie so there's that.
Ah... but did the transwarp conduit exist in the past? I would argue the Borg have to build them in order to use them. (Which was probably the first Cube's job. It may have taken decades to reach the Alpha Quadrant, and was probably not fully built, either. That's why it was scooping planets, to build its own hull.)
I've always had a problem with this. Why not go back with enough time to warn/save your brother and nephew, play along for the next few days as usual, and just derail Soren's plans like you were psychic?
0:16 Kirk doesn't watch for cars; rookie mistake among jaywalkers. But there's a straight-up pro in a fedora who can stop right in the street, hands in pockets, and casually watch! Great artsy contrast Nimoy snuck in there! (Seriously, though, is that a deliberately blocked bg actor or is he someone who's not supposed to be in the shot?)
Star Trek V is a mistake, the whole damn thing. I agree with your comment about Into Darkness. Just keep John Harrison as Harrison. Switching him to Khan almost destroys the movie. Also, no one seemed to remember any Earth history. You would think they would know who Khan is.
You guys should do a Top 10 speeches and a Top 10 quotes for the entire series! My favorite speech? Data telling his daughter why he continues to try to be human even knowing he will never succeed. My favorite quote? "Shall we die together?"
I know this has nothing to do with the video, which was awesome btw, but after hearing about Nichelle Nichols fight with dementia and people who may be exploiting her and mistreating her in her golden years, I'm wondering if anybody has tried to help her out (either fans or colleagues) She doesn't deserve her current situation.
Terrible...people need to treat her better. My father suffered through Alzheimers for eight years before he died. Thankfully he died before he became too incoherent.
My thought for Star Trek VI was always that stun at close range just wasn't detectable. Or maybe it just wasn't a very reliable system. They seem to have removed it from subsequent Starfleet ships.
The Remans weren't said to be great warriors, they were described as being used as cannon fodder. Plus their ability to see in complete darkness likely was advantageous against the Jem'Hadar and especially the Cardassians
At 1:00; Oh, and my favorite; Those Vulcan kids were trying to get an emotional response from Spock, well they got one they hadn't expected and obviously didn't plan for (no plan)? ;-D
Pretty confident that any replicator would come with safety functions to prevent the manufacture of weaponry. I doubt an exploratory vessel has a captain with override clearance for such a feature (as well as anyone accessing the overrides, themselves, and framing the captain). Otherwise, stopping to hack a replicator to print a projectile weapon (while probably something Picard could do) probably wasn't worth the hours it would take him to accomplish it
They could actually have gone full Ewoks on the Borg using boulders and makeshift spike traps. Heck... replicakte a rocket with a massive tree as warhead to smash them. Borg were never able to counter blunt force. They die when their ships crash just as anybody else.
OMG. I'm watching the intro, and I realize you have my dream job i.e. utilizing knowledge of Star Trek, and asking the question each day, "what premise can I imagine, to make a 10 minute + video about"? Good on you, and God bless. Keep up the good work. 5 stars, will watch again.
I'm all for original adventures. But a big question I have is: did the Swarm ever exist in the Prime Universe? The Kelvin Enterprise is supposed to be far more technologically advanced than the O.G. Enterprise, yet the Swarm destroyed it. How did neither Pike or Kirk know anything about this Swarm in TOS? Maybe Strange New Worlds will answer that.
I'm assuming you are focusing on PLOT mistakes and not mistakes in general, or certainly you would have mentioned that deck numbering snafu inside the tutbolift tube.
The first Kelvin universe Trek: Kirk breaks many regulations, takes over the ship, and is rewarded with the keys to the flagship. The fact that he won shouldn't make a difference in this. I can't see any military rewarding someone for such disobedience.
Going back to the tommy gun vs borg shields. I’ve heard that in theory all projectile weapons would work do to the fact that borg shields work only on energy based weapons.
They could probably adapt to bullets eventually. It's likely they just focused on blocking energy weapons because they seem to be a lot more common in the galaxy and if you kept using bullets they would likely just change to defending against them. It might take a bit longer to adapt, but they would still adapt!
I think in ST '09, ejecting the warp core(s) when you are at max warp and barely able to hold your position, is not gonna quite work. They would have immediately began sinking, rapidly into the black hole and it would have taken weeks or months to get back to Earth at impulse, assuming the indeed survived.
If they hadn't shown the delay between the core ejection and explosion taking so long in the film, it'd be more believable. The fusion reactors running at max can probably sustain warp for a few seconds, just in case the main reactor goes offline unexpectedly, as a safety feature. I figured they had to call for help to get them all the way back to Earth.
It was his dad's car - that his step father laid claim to which irritated Little Jim. And the kid he passes was supposed to be his older brother - insinuating they were both running away.
I always wandered about Picard using tommygun to kill Borg. It seams Borg shields did not adapt to shield against projectile weapons. I think Borg did not assimilate civilization who was to primitive for Borg to learn new things. Ballistic weapons were primitive for them. So what if phaser and a machine gun was used at the same time? Can Borg shields adapt to energy and ballistic weapons at the same time? Phaser shotgun combo weapon would be devastating for Borg!
The transporter accident in TMP is the worst mistake. Almost immediately after two people get burfed inside out, they beam McCoy aboard as if nothing happened.
I'd be surprised if replicators didn't have safeguards in place to stop someone creating weapons, but I'd be equally surprised if a Captain couldn't override that.
The main computer was locked out. Replicators may have been offline or limited in what they could provide. That the holodeck was working was somehow overlooked.
The car in the JJ movie was Kirks dads car and the uncle or stepdad or whatever basically took it as his, stealing the car and driving it over the cliff was a rebellious thing, and the kid he waved to was his brother who was I believe running away from home.
And why don’t they try to eject the warp core in Generations? They have this capability on Voyager, so why this isn’t Riker or Geordi’s first thought baffles me. Also, Spock crying over Kirk’s death in Into Darkness. Because, no.
With regards to #12 & #2 They: *WHAT!? He killed Spock! Then became Sherlock and killed Kirk!* *I suppose he had a decent chest though.* 🤔 Me: *A pro/con list... Not a "PRO KHAN" list.* 🙂
Picard doesn't replicate a Tommy Gun because the replicators can't create intricate machines. Besides, I'm really doubtful it would allow edged weapons or gunpowder to be replicated.
I think the mistakes on this list are good... except the #1 mistake was to green light the Kelvin timeline. The first one was interesting but they should have stopped at that one. lol
The Enterprise-D was hit in the drive section with shields not effective so it was basically crippled.... It wasn’t a warship like the Enterprise-E.... And it wasn’t refitted like the galaxy classes in the dominion war for combat.....
Actually, Wrath of Kahn may be one of the few times that the members of the away team aren't over-qualified. The Genesis Project was super top secret. It's probably that the Captain and Chekov were the only people on the ship that even knew the real reason they were at Ceti Alpha Six.
In Star Trek VI, one big glaring question could be: Why is there a sidearms/weapons locker,..in the kitchen? That seems really dumb to have it there, vs just outside of the kitchen in a hallway or the dining room for authorized officers.
In star trek beyond they do show the they were listening in on starfleets communications that how they knew the enterprise had the device they were looking for
Didn't TNG establish that the replicators couldn't make functional weapons? That said, then the holodeck shouldn't have been able to make them either, with or without the safeties. Also, Starfleet security has always been a contradiction in terms. 😁
One of the many things that I really hate about STAR TREK INTO DAFTNESS, is that that Benedict Cumberbund recites his lines like he's trying to chew a steak with too much gristle. Another thing I hate about it is the criminal under use of Noel "Mickey Smith" Clarke. He had a semi lead role in the first two seasons of 21st century DOCTOR WHO, so, he deserved more screen time and dialogue that he actually got in the movie.
I think First Contact’s biggest mistake was not having Sisko on the defiant with Worf. I would have loved to see Picard and Sisko on screen together again - good personal drama and both with different history and hatred for the Borg
About destruction of USS Enterprise D (and USS Odyssey in DS9): Galaxy class has been design as tank of a starship, that ship could be shield-less with hull full of holes and still refuses to die...and about Odyssey...that Jam'hadar ship just blind this Galaxy class (by ramming into its main sensor array) warp core is no where near that area...how did it blow up is beyond me
The biggest mistakes in Star Trek, Star Trek: Into Darkness and Star Trek: Beyond were Star Trek, Star Trek: Into Darkness and Star Trek: Beyond. I'm glad Roddenberry never had to suffer them.
In Star Trek First Contact, while Picard did turn off the holodeck safety so that he could kill the Borg, those bullets are still bound by holographic rules. If those bullets somehow went through the Holodeck walls they would immediately vanish, however if they replicate a real Tommygun they risk the bullets penetrating the hull and causing explosives decompression.
I was okay with Harrison being Khan, but the big dramatic reveal was so stupid because the name Khan meant nothing to the characters. I also gave up on the film after Khan boasted that he knew that the Enterprise’s life support systems were “located behind the aft nacelle” because I knew they had literally no one who knew Star Trek on their writing staff.
Wait, Pavel Chekov giving his name is bad, but giving the formula for Transparent Aluminum is fine?
"Why? How do you know he didn't invent the thing?"
In the novelization, when Scotty meets Marcus, he gets wildly happy to meet the man and gushes about his (Marcus's) inventions. Then later when Bones questions Scotty about giving Marcus the formula, Scotty more clearly states that Marcus did invent transparent aluminum and that it might even be necessary to give him the formula so he can do so.
@@anthonyreed3682 beat me to it. Well played
Three words: -Transwarp beaming device- Just these three...because after all these years...I´m still lost for words..... This one beats every scene with John Harrison.
I’m still angry at JarJar Abrams about that.
@@peterpayne2219 Agreed!
Don't need ships anymore, nobody stays dead, etc. From HISHE, as I recall.
Well, at least those Iconian gateways will be less controversial when they get found in that timeline.
Doesn’t transwarp mean that they can transport while at warp speeds, not being able to warp transport the individual. You can’t transport an individual across the galaxy but to or from a fast travelling ship at short distances. Before this everyone had to be still. This is where he compares transwarp to “hitting a bullet with a smaller bullet while riding a horse blind folded”. A massive misunderstanding to “transwarp”
I remember seeing Into Darkness in the theater, and when Benedict Cumberpatch said, "My name is Khan," a guy in the row behind me yelled out "Bullshit!"
He should have been Gary Seven.
That was me.
LOL. Yes there's only one Khan
Who was this genius? You should have got his name and given it to Paramount. Might have saved us all a lot of pain.
U know, I wonder if it would have been better to have another one from Kahn's crew to be the person that admiral Marcus used for section 31 and have kahn as a tease for a future movie.
Star Trek V... To be honest, let's keep in mind that McCoy and Kirk have melded with vulcans, and Spock is half vulcan himself... So it should provide them enough to resist Sybok's mind probe...
Exactly.
And McCoy carried Spock's katra so he likely gained some immunity from that.
Fascinating
#7 I never understood why the Enterprise never rotated shield modulations during the battle in which it was destroyed, or why constantly rotating modulations never became standard.
Well. Even if they did, the information would have been relayed to the Klingons, because it would be Geordy remodulating the shields, but yeah - at least they should have tried.
The problemwas that they cut the scene explainingwhy the kligons were able to penatrate the shields so easily
The question is why they posted it on a wall in a hallway anyone can walk through. Its not like engineering had doors to keep random civilians out!
Those are anti-Borg tactics, apparently you're only allowed to use those tactics against the Borg.
@@antney7745 True. They were following standard starfleet anti-Klingon tactics, specifically "Let's let them get in a few good hits then take a few lazy shots at them to make it a fair fight, then cheat to win anyway."
You mention Generations and the Klingon sisters ability to shoot through the shields having seen what Geordie saw, however, was Generations not set after the Borg episodes in TNG where, after fighting the Borg, shields were changed over the fleet to what I believe was called 'Nutational Sheilds' where the shield frequency was rotated to increase efficiency and help specifically against the Borg, so while they might have seen the shield frequency once, and got one shot through, the second shot would have essentially done nothing as it would have hit the shields saving the Enterprise...
THAT is my biggest issue with Generations..
For the ST: THE MOTION PICTURE, the wormhole effect was, at the time...epic. We stood in line for well over an hour in the bitter WISCONSIN cold that December weekend, and the theater was so packed that every seat was occupied once we were let in--some people even had to stand! Well, when the "wormhole effect" happened on the screen, the audience moved in unison to the time distortions, left and right. I swear to God, it was like the theater was moving around you. I still don't know how they did it or what technique they used to make those effects on the screen, but the audience reacted well to it and it was awesome!
I never had an issue with the wormhole special effects, and thought they made sense to what it might look & sound like in a wormhole, which is distorting space-time. I’m sure the special effects were ground breaking for the time, and I fee have aged rather well.
There were much more special effects in 2001: A Space Odyssey that I think looked much more “trippy”, but even then I had no problems with them, and like that movie as well.
Never really understood all the negative vibes around the motion picture, never have a problem rewatching it
You need to compare it with movies around at the time.
Generations is my least favourite, I think I have only watched it twice,
For me The wrath of Khan tops my list of original cast movies.
Can remember wearing out 3 video tapes, before DVD came out
As far TNG cast movies generations sucked
You can ask 10 people the same question and get 10 varying answers
Why is Sybok Spock's half brother when that fact literally means nothing to the film's plot?
Good food for thought. Also always wished they'd made him either A. a non-Vulcan, B. not a full-blooded Vulcan, or C. prepared to explain how he could be so counter-culture to everything we know about Vulcans. My head-canon is that his mother is Romulan.
Wouldn't it have been more interesting if he had been a role model to Spock? Maybe the one Vulcan in Spock's youth who showed his kindness and support. His inspiration to join Starfleet perhaps. The brother thing was cheap and lazy.
I'd also bet Sybok's a bigshot among the space hippies,@@christopherwilson3754. ;-)
@@christopherwilson3754 There was a deleted scene where Spock is tempted again after seeing his birth. Sybok and Spock relive the moment where Sybok has to leave Vulcan and Spock wants to go with him.
@@alm2187 She's not though. Sybok's mom is a Vulcan princess. Sarek left her for Amanda.
With Number 13 was funny because when I saw it 40 years ago with my older brother we were both on LSD. The wormhole effect was epic. My brother leaned over and asked if the effect was the movie or the drug. Laughed so hard. 🤣. Kids, don't do drugs. It was the 70s.
The best thing Star Trek: Discovery did was to recreate that effect when they went through their own wormhole.
🤣🤣🤣
The wormhole was created by an imbalance in the warp drive, and it was screwing with time, that’s why everything was all trippy and slowed down, “NOOooooo, beellllllaaay that phassssseerrr orrrrddder, fiiiirrrre, phooooottttton torpeeeeedo.”
Why was my phaser order countermanded?
Yeah Uhura’s role in Star Trek III wasn’t complete. I agree the novelization fixes it perfectly.
Also: THANK YOU for John Harrison in Into Darkness! Yes! Why did he have to be Khan? Harrison worked as an original character.
Right. The fact that he was Khan ruined that movie for me. As good an actor Benedict Cumberbatch is, he is no Khan.
Harrison had to be Khan for multiple reasons. 1. Motivation for trying to destroy things. 2. Magic blood. 3. Old Spock had to tell the young Spock how to defeat him. 4. Bigger threat physically. etc. If he was just a regular guy then they would have to come up with a lot of new McGuffins to make the plot work.
As for the "James Tiberius Kirk" line from the 2009 Star Trek movie, maybe it was to show that while Jim Kirk was many things, he was never a boy scout.
My opinion is that it was just in for the trailer.
It was because in a deleted scene, that was in the novelization, his brother tells Jim that their stepfather won't let them be Kirks.
Yet he yells it like it's supposed to mean something to the robot.
@@JoeL-yq1iv First, it’s not a robot. Second, he didn’t yell at all. He said it in a quite normal “outside” voice. Third, he was absolutely just feeling some confidence, probably for the first time in a while, and wanted to show that by owning his own name. It was, after all, an appropriate response to the question he was asked. And last, he was a little kid, and little kids sometimes get rowdy or excited and behave accordingly. I don’t see the problem.
Remember in the real Star Trek what was said about Kirk in the trap? " Watch out for Lieutenant Kirk. In his class, you either think or sink."
The no captain on away missions was actually started by Riker
There are many movie mistakes that were explained in the novels. Scottys nephew, while technically not a mistake, was a huge hole in the story, the “boys club” regarding Uhura is another. Either make the movie a couple minutes longer, or leave the question marks on the cutting room floor.
But then this begs the question: is the novelization based on the original script/concepts, or is it written specifically to explain away plot holes with added/retconned material?
Thank goodness I'm not the only one who loves 'Undiscovered Country'
The reason Spock and McCoy don't follow Sybok is the actors refused to do it. Both felt there characters wouldn't betray Kirk. Shatner tried to convince them but failed and didn't change anything but this.
It seems reasonable considering they really reinforce that they’re insanely close.
I’d agree, Spock & McCoy would never have betrayed Kirk. They were like brothers, would have never happened! Shatner is crazy, and doesn’t under stand the characters if he thinks they would have. Likewise Kirk would have never betrayed them, but apparently Shatner wanted to!
Nemesis has so many other issues than that, the stupid dune buggy, Troi's sexual assault, B4 being an obvious trap and getting all Data knowledge and Starfleet secrets, Young Picard's bald head in the picture. No Spock or Sela, why wasn't this movie about unification?
The problematic Deanna storyline may have been Rick Berman lashing out at Marina Sirtis for her being supposedly 'uppity' regarding her fee for this film. As well, concur with the premise that the story should have been about the underground dissidents in Romulus.
The whole movie was a disaster
Those are all great talking points discussed in *RedLetterMedia's Plinkett reviews actually*
@@k2bny I'm not, honestly, sure how it's possible, but Nemesis was worse than TMP.
Nenesis was still far better than Insurrection.
Star Trek II: Kirk fails to raise shields.
Star Trek 09: Cadet to Captain in one movie? No.
Johnny Rico went from cadet to LT in one movie. In fact he went from Private to LT during one mission.
Then took 8 years from LT. to Colonel
@@garyhall2770 only because anybody superior kept getting killed. Field promotions from dead man's boots was the quickest way to progress through the ranks, apparently.
My own thoughts re: Generations (and I liked the film): when Picard is in the Nexus and can go back to any time and place, why does he not go back to, I dunno, a few days before when he has Sorran on the Enterprise and could have easily just thrown him in the brig?
Or why Kirk didn't go back to the Enterprise B and NOT save Soran?
I don't think Picard knew you could leave until he met Guinan's shadow she left inside the Nexus. Since Kirk didn't know Guinan there's no way for him to have known.
The whole thing was dumb to be honest. Kirk agrees its not right because its not real, but then they go back to the planet where it sudden IS real? Are they just not still in the nexus?
try explaining that to your younger crew without ripping a bigger hole in the space time continuum that Kirk ever did. Or getting sedated for being nuts.
Or go to his family farm and warn his brother and nephew about the fire?
But, as Aegis pointed out (and I as well as many other people have wondered since we first saw the film)... Was any of it real anyways? Seems to me that Picard just went to another fantasy where he and the legendary James T Kirk saved his Enterprise and billions of people on that planet.
The Klingon translation scene in STTUC, where communication expert uhura is using OLD BOOKS to try and talk to a Klingon outpost, is so unbelievably bad and such a stretch for a cheap laugh that it almost ruins the entire movie for me
I liked how Into Darkness seemed to give a response to this moment, having Uhura speak fluent Klingon with no problem.
@@DaPopeANata frankly it makes no sense for Uhura to be able to speak fluent Klingon or romulan for that matter oh there's so many problems with the Kelvin timeline
@James501. Right, because no one ever learns to be fluent in the other major powers' languages. I mean, diplomatic corps are so overrated. On the otherhand, if you are referencing why they didn't just rely on the universal translator I have al2ays dismissed it as being about as bad as google translate when it comes to syntax and idioms. I can see the Klingon comms officer now. Here come those humans with that translation software again.
With the universal translator doing a "good enough" job, no one needed to bother. Plus, it's only in Kelvan timeline that Uhura is a linguist first (see Enterprise) and a comms officer second. Though I'm surprised only Kirk learned it (secretly) as Spock could have picked it up in an afternoon and saved Uhura from "we am thy" type grammatical errors. But that wouldn't have been "funny".
My theory to Uhura having difficulty with Klingon was that she had her memory erased in the TOS episode “The Changeling” and had to relearn everything, and never got around to relearning Klingon.
I think you've misunderstood the scene with little Kirk, in the first kelvin movie. The boy was crazy mad because his Dad is dead and he was fighting with his mum's new boyfriend. When he answered the robo cop he was reinforcing his own identity for himself, not the cop.
But it was really for the audience to know who he was
@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit Kris W is referring to deleted stuff from a scene before that, where the "uncle" tells "Jimmy" that he's "nobody" and tells his older brother to leave (the teen is walking away from the house, backpack on his shoulder) because the "uncle" is a tyrant and Kirk's mother's boyfriend. The Corvette Stingray was actually Kirk's father's car and not the "uncle's." That's why he destroyed the car, it was a middle finger at the "uncle."
It was quite odd to give his full name; and we know it was a line forced into place; It would have worked to answer the officer "I'm James T Kirk" This is how Kirk always Identified himself in every Star Trek episode.
@@MrJohndoakes now had that explanation made it to the movie, it would have been cool, and added depth to Kirk. It would have made the scene where he asks old Spock if in the prime timeline, did he know his father, even more poignant!!
still a bad scene
The second this popped up, I abandoned what I was watching to watch this.
I drop almost anything for Star Trek!!! 🖖🏻👨🏻🦲👍🏻
Same here 🖖
@@Will-eh6xe Awesome!!!!!!!
In First Contact, my second problem [after the Borg Queen] has always been the idea that the Borg have never faced anyone wielding projectile weapons before.
Thing is, we don't actually know if the Borg can adapt to projectile weapons or not. It's not too farfetched that a cyborg race advanced as them could adapt to bullets, but we've never SEEN it happen. The only times other than First Contact where projectiles have been used on the Borg are in non-canon novels, so that doesn't really count.
Are holodeck bullets lead or energy manifestations?
Nice to see a fellow Undiscovered country fan. Chang 4 lyfe!
It's always bothered me that Reliant's computer couldn't tell the difference between Ceti Alpha 5 or Ceti Alpha 6.
Why does Krall need his bio-weapon anyway? A surprise attack with his swarm-ships should have been able to wreck the Yorktown quite thoroughly.
Third one...Kirk stole his abusive step-father's car. There's the reason. And usually you put your full name in official papers, which is probably why the robot-cop asked.
I thought it was his uncle's car and he stole it because his uncle was hard on his brother
@@dashrendar_8307 there's a whole story arc about Kirk's step-dad being abusive that was cut from the final film
or using his full name was simply defiance
Just a thought on consistency: when Mudd went to court, the computer dinged him for sticking to an alias and again for just calling himself Harry. He finally realized he'd get nowhere until he formally stated his full name.
Maybe it's common knowledge on Future Earth that computer-assisted officials hold out for middle names. Maybe even Kid Kirk would know that.
An abusive father figure would seem to be a blemish on Roddenberry's humanist utopia. Maybe the penal system is good at enlightening inmates like him, though.
@@RichO1701e His mom sure did a 180, going from a guy who saved 400+ lives in 5 minutes to an abusive dick.
I saw Star Trek Into Darkness early enough in its run that many audience members were presumably watching it unspoiled. When John Harrison said, "I am Khan", there was widespread tittering in the audience.
The trailer for the film showed the reactor death scene. I knew it was a TWOK remake months before it even came out
13:15 If you absolutely needed BC to play an existing character, boom: Gary Mitchell. Problem solved.
It is NOT his uncle's car. It is his stepfather. Kirk's mother remarried so that the boys wold have a father figure in their lives.
And it was not even his car, it was the boys' father's car.
@@DEH1963 Yup - it was Chris Hemsworth's car
i think it was mentioned before that replicators can not replicate weapons can't remember where i heard that
But that could be bypassed with a officer.
I always figured that when Data locked out the main computer he prevented both sides from making complex items like weapons to prevent an arms race.
:You play games with me mister and you're through!" "I am? may I go now?"
I feel this misses two MUCH BIGGER mistakes in both Generations and First Contact.
In Generations, why didn't Picard just go back much further into the past? He knew what Soran was going to do, why not go back to a time it's easier to prevent everything?
And in First Contact, if the Borg could just go back in time like that, why didn't they do so elsewhere? No matter how you approach it, there are so many more obvious choices for the Borg to make than what they actually did in First Contact.
I don't know about generations, but with first contact that kinda explained it that it was after ww3 and all government were to the ground, so it was easy for the borg to conquer earth.
I don't know shit about Star Trek. But isn't their whole thing "add your distinct likeness to our own"? Maybe they don't want olde timey people? I have no idea, though.... I preferred Star Trek V!
Maybe they should have sent one drone back in time to take out Cochran's mom before he's born...
My guess with Generations is they were going to replace the Enterprised D if he'd gone back further to stop Soran the ship wouldn't have been destroyed
The Borg effectively drove up to the bank in a monster truck and shot their way in to rob it.
Still seeking perfection probably?
My biggest problem with First Contact is that the Borg didn't have to travel to Earth and alert the Federation before going back in time, thus allowing the Enterprise to follow them. They could have just done their time travel in the Delta Quadrant or wherever that cube was coming from, traveled to Earth with no resistance at all and just enslaved all the unsuspecting humans. But then we wouldn't have an awesome Borg movie so there's that.
Ah... but did the transwarp conduit exist in the past? I would argue the Borg have to build them in order to use them. (Which was probably the first Cube's job. It may have taken decades to reach the Alpha Quadrant, and was probably not fully built, either. That's why it was scooping planets, to build its own hull.)
Generations: Using the Nexus to go back in time... To a few seconds before Soran fires the missile.
yeah but having Kirk camocazy Soren was just epic
I've always had a problem with this. Why not go back with enough time to warn/save your brother and nephew, play along for the next few days as usual, and just derail Soren's plans like you were psychic?
@@MrSavagemaster ummm cause that would ruin the whole movie that's why and time travel is not possible yet
Or flying into the Nexus with a ship... Like the La'kool. Marjor plothole
0:16 Kirk doesn't watch for cars; rookie mistake among jaywalkers. But there's a straight-up pro in a fedora who can stop right in the street, hands in pockets, and casually watch! Great artsy contrast Nimoy snuck in there! (Seriously, though, is that a deliberately blocked bg actor or is he someone who's not supposed to be in the shot?)
Star Trek V is a mistake, the whole damn thing. I agree with your comment about Into Darkness. Just keep John Harrison as Harrison. Switching him to Khan almost destroys the movie. Also, no one seemed to remember any Earth history. You would think they would know who Khan is.
Final Frontier: Letting Shatner direct.
An inducement for the "Shatman" even to return for the beloved "The Voyage Home" ~
You guys should do a Top 10 speeches and a Top 10 quotes for the entire series!
My favorite speech? Data telling his daughter why he continues to try to be human even knowing he will never succeed. My favorite quote? "Shall we die together?"
How about Kirk's "Risk Is Our Business" speech from "Return To Tomorrow"?
@@660reliant that's a good one too! Honestly though I predict "Live long and prosper" topping the list.
I always looked at BC playing Khan as "It's the 23rd century, you're telling me they haven't improved cosmetic alteration in a major way."
I know this has nothing to do with the video, which was awesome btw, but after hearing about Nichelle Nichols
fight with dementia and people who may be exploiting her and mistreating her in her golden years, I'm wondering if anybody has tried to help her out (either fans or colleagues) She doesn't deserve her current situation.
Terrible...people need to treat her better. My father suffered through Alzheimers for eight years before he died. Thankfully he died before he became too incoherent.
Spock was half Vulcan and McCoy carried Spock's katra for a time.
With you 100% in having The Undiscovered Country as the favourite among the movies. ❤️
Thank you for these videos and your part in trekculture, Sean. It's a great way to relax.
0:53 Lest we forget, "Where Nomad Has Gone Before". ;)
My thought for Star Trek VI was always that stun at close range just wasn't detectable. Or maybe it just wasn't a very reliable system. They seem to have removed it from subsequent Starfleet ships.
It's Hollywood, we aren't suppose to notice things like this. How dare use to notice their inconsistencies. 👀😁
Well, we never did see that alarm feature again.
@Chris B It is - stun shots don't trigger the alarms.
What I didn't mention in my own comment, but will here, is WHAT THE HECK ARE PHASERS DOING IN A KITCHEN CABINET ANYWAY?!?!?
Rats and cockroaches are highly evolved in the 23rd century.
For Star Trek V, the Enterprise-A being 80 decks tall should have been the single biggest mistake.
The Remans weren't said to be great warriors, they were described as being used as cannon fodder. Plus their ability to see in complete darkness likely was advantageous against the Jem'Hadar and especially the Cardassians
At 1:00; Oh, and my favorite; Those Vulcan kids were trying to get an emotional response from Spock, well they got one they hadn't expected and obviously didn't plan for (no plan)? ;-D
Love your presenting style, Sean
THE biggest movie mistake is in JJ Trek - THOU SHALT NOT BLOW UP VULCAN!!!!
Now I'm imagining JJ as baby Groot when Rocket keeps trying to explain which buttons to push and keeps trying to tell him not to blow up Vulcan.
To be fair, he didn't "blow up" Vulcan...he sucked down it?
Pretty confident that any replicator would come with safety functions to prevent the manufacture of weaponry. I doubt an exploratory vessel has a captain with override clearance for such a feature (as well as anyone accessing the overrides, themselves, and framing the captain). Otherwise, stopping to hack a replicator to print a projectile weapon (while probably something Picard could do) probably wasn't worth the hours it would take him to accomplish it
Khan did have "magic blood" in TOS, just to be clear.
Star Trek: Nemesis mistakes:
1: Picard wasn’t bald at the academy, featured in several episodes.
2: No transporters in shuttlecrafts?
They could actually have gone full Ewoks on the Borg using boulders and makeshift spike traps. Heck... replicakte a rocket with a massive tree as warhead to smash them. Borg were never able to counter blunt force. They die when their ships crash just as anybody else.
OMG. I'm watching the intro, and I realize you have my dream job i.e. utilizing knowledge of Star Trek, and asking the question each day, "what premise can I imagine, to make a 10 minute + video about"? Good on you, and God bless. Keep up the good work. 5 stars, will watch again.
To quote the sci-fi channel, many years ago before Generations came out..
Even numbered Trek movies don't suck!
Star Trek X Nemesis: Hold my beer
I'm all for original adventures. But a big question I have is: did the Swarm ever exist in the Prime Universe? The Kelvin Enterprise is supposed to be far more technologically advanced than the O.G. Enterprise, yet the Swarm destroyed it. How did neither Pike or Kirk know anything about this Swarm in TOS? Maybe Strange New Worlds will answer that.
I'm assuming you are focusing on PLOT mistakes and not mistakes in general, or certainly you would have mentioned that deck numbering snafu inside the tutbolift tube.
He's done the turbolift one multiple times i believe i can definitely say once im pretty sure a few though
The first Kelvin universe Trek: Kirk breaks many regulations, takes over the ship, and is rewarded with the keys to the flagship. The fact that he won shouldn't make a difference in this. I can't see any military rewarding someone for such disobedience.
Going back to the tommy gun vs borg shields. I’ve heard that in theory all projectile weapons would work do to the fact that borg shields work only on energy based weapons.
Borg shields only work against energy weapons, not projectile weapons.
Id assume after a while they'd adapt and use something like the shielding for ships that they use
I read once that the borg only raise the shield when needed
Seems rather short-sighted for such a knowledgable bunch.
They could probably adapt to bullets eventually. It's likely they just focused on blocking energy weapons because they seem to be a lot more common in the galaxy and if you kept using bullets they would likely just change to defending against them. It might take a bit longer to adapt, but they would still adapt!
Doctor gave me a pill and I grew a new kidney
I think in ST '09, ejecting the warp core(s) when you are at max warp and barely able to hold your position, is not gonna quite work. They would have immediately began sinking, rapidly into the black hole and it would have taken weeks or months to get back to Earth at impulse, assuming the indeed survived.
If they hadn't shown the delay between the core ejection and explosion taking so long in the film, it'd be more believable. The fusion reactors running at max can probably sustain warp for a few seconds, just in case the main reactor goes offline unexpectedly, as a safety feature.
I figured they had to call for help to get them all the way back to Earth.
ST2009 - It wasn't his uncle. It was his step-dad.
That was his father's Car that his uncle inherited. He was pissed at his uncle and was acting out.
wasn't his uncle, it was his abusive step father. The whole story got cut from the final movie
It was his dad's car - that his step father laid claim to which irritated Little Jim. And the kid he passes was supposed to be his older brother - insinuating they were both running away.
The biggest problem with ST 5 is that it exists
YES YES YES!!!
12:08 I thought it was his stepfather's car. Good to know Nokia will still be around in two hundred years.
Where do you get gasoline for a 200 year old Corvette?
@@itsabovemenow1016 Maybe they overhauled the engine so it ran on whatever they'd use for small vehicles 300 years from now.
I always wandered about Picard using tommygun to kill Borg. It seams Borg shields did not adapt to shield against projectile weapons. I think Borg did not assimilate civilization who was to primitive for Borg to learn new things. Ballistic weapons were primitive for them. So what if phaser and a machine gun was used at the same time? Can Borg shields adapt to energy and ballistic weapons at the same time? Phaser shotgun combo weapon would be devastating for Borg!
The transporter accident in TMP is the worst mistake. Almost immediately after two people get burfed inside out, they beam McCoy aboard as if nothing happened.
John Harrison should have been Gary Mitchell
THIS^^^^^
Thinking that there is a restriction on what replicators can make (projectile type weapons, blade weapons).
Could be mistaken.
That wouldn´t apply to Picard though, he has an override code for such things
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Agreed, Picard must have a replicator override
I'd be surprised if replicators didn't have safeguards in place to stop someone creating weapons, but I'd be equally surprised if a Captain couldn't override that.
The main computer was locked out. Replicators may have been offline or limited in what they could provide. That the holodeck was working was somehow overlooked.
The car in the JJ movie was Kirks dads car and the uncle or stepdad or whatever basically took it as his, stealing the car and driving it over the cliff was a rebellious thing, and the kid he waved to was his brother who was I believe running away from home.
We have Star Trek V...because we need balance. So biting yet so true.
? how many deck does the enterprise has
And why don’t they try to eject the warp core in Generations? They have this capability on Voyager, so why this isn’t Riker or Geordi’s first thought baffles me.
Also, Spock crying over Kirk’s death in Into Darkness. Because, no.
With regards to #12 & #2
They: *WHAT!? He killed Spock! Then became Sherlock and killed Kirk!*
*I suppose he had a decent chest though.* 🤔
Me: *A pro/con list... Not a "PRO KHAN" list.*
🙂
"My name is... Smaug."
Picard doesn't replicate a Tommy Gun because the replicators can't create intricate machines. Besides, I'm really doubtful it would allow edged weapons or gunpowder to be replicated.
10:00 And the Observation post looks like a filing desk. 2 Drawers on each side and put some shelves in. Perfect printer stand.
I think the mistakes on this list are good... except the #1 mistake was to green light the Kelvin timeline. The first one was interesting but they should have stopped at that one. lol
John Harrison should definitely not have been Kahn. He shouldn't have even been John Harrison. He should have been Gary Mitchell.
The Enterprise-D was hit in the drive section with shields not effective so it was basically crippled.... It wasn’t a warship like the Enterprise-E.... And it wasn’t refitted like the galaxy classes in the dominion war for combat.....
The honorary Trek film’s mistake:
If Dr. Lazarus is from a fictional species how did the Thermians replicate his food, living and all?
You weren't puzzled by the mile-deep Arizona-like canyon in an Iowa cornfield?
I think with First Contact, Picard picked a weapon that the Borg could not assimilate Mainly, a non-energy weapon..
Actually, Wrath of Kahn may be one of the few times that the members of the away team aren't over-qualified. The Genesis Project was super top secret. It's probably that the Captain and Chekov were the only people on the ship that even knew the real reason they were at Ceti Alpha Six.
In Star Trek VI, one big glaring question could be: Why is there a sidearms/weapons locker,..in the kitchen? That seems really dumb to have it there, vs just outside of the kitchen in a hallway or the dining room for authorized officers.
0:55 The Slow Motion Picture was my favorite.
In star trek beyond they do show the they were listening in on starfleets communications that how they knew the enterprise had the device they were looking for
the glitches early on in the movie
@@RichO1701e yes when the screen glitches as they put the device in the enterprises vault
That was a distastefully contrived thing too.
About Star Trek 6, the problem wasn't firing phaser but vaporizing people or things
Didn't TNG establish that the replicators couldn't make functional weapons? That said, then the holodeck shouldn't have been able to make them either, with or without the safeties. Also, Starfleet security has always been a contradiction in terms. 😁
For number 3 the novelization explains that the car was actually Kirk's dad and his stepdad was about to sell it.
One of the many things that I really hate about STAR TREK INTO DAFTNESS, is that that Benedict Cumberbund recites his lines like he's trying to chew a steak with too much gristle. Another thing I hate about it is the criminal under use of Noel "Mickey Smith" Clarke. He had a semi lead role in the first two seasons of 21st century DOCTOR WHO, so, he deserved more screen time and dialogue that he actually got in the movie.
I think First Contact’s biggest mistake was not having Sisko on the defiant with Worf. I would have loved to see Picard and Sisko on screen together again - good personal drama and both with different history and hatred for the Borg
About destruction of USS Enterprise D (and USS Odyssey in DS9): Galaxy class has been design as tank of a starship, that ship could be shield-less with hull full of holes and still refuses to die...and about Odyssey...that Jam'hadar ship just blind this Galaxy class (by ramming into its main sensor array) warp core is no where near that area...how did it blow up is beyond me
The biggest mistakes in Star Trek, Star Trek: Into Darkness and Star Trek: Beyond were Star Trek, Star Trek: Into Darkness and Star Trek: Beyond. I'm glad Roddenberry never had to suffer them.
In Star Trek First Contact, while Picard did turn off the holodeck safety so that he could kill the Borg, those bullets are still bound by holographic rules. If those bullets somehow went through the Holodeck walls they would immediately vanish, however if they replicate a real Tommygun they risk the bullets penetrating the hull and causing explosives decompression.
I think you can safely say that the replicators cannot replicate ballistic weapons. That seems incredibly dangerous.
Personally I thought Benedict Cumberbatch should have been Joachim.
'In to Darkness' and 'Beyond' - being made!
Especially Into Darkness.
Still hate that DS9 never got a movie.
I was okay with Harrison being Khan, but the big dramatic reveal was so stupid because the name Khan meant nothing to the characters. I also gave up on the film after Khan boasted that he knew that the Enterprise’s life support systems were “located behind the aft nacelle” because I knew they had literally no one who knew Star Trek on their writing staff.