An opportunity to build a world class and architecturally significant airport like for example Istanbul , Hong Kong , Beijing Daxing International , Chicago O'Hare International , Kuwait International and the addition to Changi Singapore and so many more........ For an airport that has been in the making for as long l can remember this is shoebox and container design just doesn't cut it , a little better than Melbournes second airport Avalon and that is a total joke it looks like a flyin flyout facility some place in remote WA .
I kind of have to agree with you, they could have made a real statement, but then like most Australian architecture, I doubt that they've heard of curves yet.
A bit of trivia. If you pause at 7.50 there is a view of the walkway (left to right) from the end of the Metro station box to the Terminal. In the foreground is part of the (exterior) Departures facilities; (a car park, a one way road running around it clockwise, with walkways and passenger drop off points (one at an angle, the other more towards the camera) Off to the right of screen is the Arrivals area which is less developed. It will have a similar road running clockwise, alongside its walkways. The open area within is probably more for rental cars, a place for cabs to assemble before moving to passenger pick-up points, and so on. But what puzzled me is the little dark-roofed building just this side of the only walkway already roofed on that side. What the hell is that for? The airport layout maps don't say, but show running from it is an 'active travel corridor' that heads towards Elizabeth Drive and ultimately runs parallel along the M12 (probably via the small circular tunnel under Elizabeth Drive). I'm guessing 'active travel' means things like 'riding a bike' and that the building is a bike storage facility.
As long as you get on your flight on time and efficiently that's all I want when I fly I'm not walking around the terminal saying to my wife no this terminal is ugly let's not fly from this terminal so I think people are concentrating on a minor issue and people should judge the terminal by its performance wonce it opens then complain to the airport operator about poor performance and service until then enjoy your life 😉
This should have been built in Wilton. I live in Pyrmont and a fast train to Wilton would have been fine. I have never visited St Marys and don't even want to transit there
Great point hopefully they build the leppington station Extension to the aerotropolis station and there is talk about a Parramatta to western Sydney airport Extension to thanks for watching cheers col 👍
@GRAHAMAUS I can tell you from a reliable source dealing with marcquarie airports and pilots..that the major players will still be using mascot...qf1/2 11/12...7/8...80/81....Emirates and etihad and Qatar will use mascot for 2 aircraft each and if more than 2 they will use badgerys Creek...united will use 2 out 3 from mascot and American the same...low cost Airlines like Cebu Pacific's Air Asia...Scoot ...Fijian...Vietnam Airlines and anyone less than 2 will use badgerys Creek...China Southern will use 2 out of 3 mascot....the other at badgerys Creek...Singapore Airlines will use 2 out of 4 Mascot...any other airlines less than 2 will park at badgerys Creek...domestically will have some major routes e.g. Melbourne/ Brisbane/ Gold Coast/ Cairns out of badgery Creek and the rest will use mascot....it's called....corporate dollars 💸 💵 💲 🤑 There you have it....for now...
Not for initial operations (on about the same scale as Adelaide, or Gold Coast and Canberra combined). More are to be added. There will ultimately be about 70 piers like the 7 initial ones, plus other single aerobridges and (what appear to be) loading ramps for smaller aircraft around the reverse side of the extended terminal wings. Don't take my word for it, search for the airport layout maps online. 10 MAP shows the initial layout, 82 MAP shows the final layout.
A lot of people complaining about the look I couldn't care less I don't have a problem with the look of the terminal I'm would be more concerned about service of the terminal when it opens to the public happy flying mate 👍
Yes I don't understand why people are so negative I mean is this airport really going Ruin their lives even before it opens Australians these days are complainers at least you have a positive comment thank for watching cheers col 👍
On the Cumberland plain, about equidistant between the Western Sydney cities of Penrith, Blacktown, Liverpool and Camden/Campbelltown. Each of those cities has a population between 200,000 and 400,000 people. Including them, Western Sydney in total has a population greater than the rest of Sydney, and more industry and higher growth. Google earth is always a bit behind reality, but the initial construction is already visible in satellite view. Airport layout maps are available online - the 10 MAP version shows the initial version (opening at the end of 2026 with a single runway and handling capacity of 10 million passengers a year) - the 82 MAP version shows the final version with the second runway and multiple terminals and a capacity of 82 million a year (about the same as London Heathrow, and twice the current Sydney Airport's pre-Covid numbers) From Day One it will have a full Cat IIIB instrument landing system allowing aircraft to land in very low visibility, like fog (much more so than at the current Sydney Airport which only has Cat II systems, with significantly poorer visibility limitations).
Great Video. Can you get them to stop being a 24 hour service? It shows total disrespect for residents. They do it better at Mascot where the rich people live. BTW there has already been a landing on the runway :D:D:D
Wonder if you can catch the metro or drive to the airport maybe metro will open later because the current airport airport line was finished in the 2000s so you had to drive
From St marys station you can catch the train to the airport from anywhere else bus or car the metro will be operating in time for airport opening in late 2026
All but one of the current piers have (or will have) two aerobridges. Those two can swing across to service an A380 parked nose in between two piers (or on the RH side of the southern-most pier). Alternatively, two aircraft of 737/A320 size can be serviced by the aerobridges from a single pier - with one aircraft nose in between the piers, and the other nose in more to the end of the pier. If you google earth Dubai Airport (80 million passengers a year) on satellite view, their western terminal has a similar layout, and you can see some aircraft being serviced by one aerobridge and some larger ones by two from the same pier. The piers at WSI seem to be larger and better spaced to make it all a bit easier. It's a very flexible arrangement as any pier can be used for any aircraft type, instead of having, for example, only a limited number of gates for handling really large aircraft. Like Dubai, WSI will have two runways, but ours will be much wider spaced apart, meaning separation between aircraft using them simultaneously is much less constrained and arguably safer. You might have noticed the northern-most pier at WSI only has a single aerobridge outlet door. That's probably because its tarmac level doors will service commuter flights (directly or via buses, like at Sydney Airport) using smaller aircraft that are much lower to the ground, and normally loaded via integral stairs or mobile boarding ramps. I've never seen smaller aircraft (SAAB 340 / DASH-8s) use aerobridges. Apart from their lower entry level, I suspect airlines get charged more fees for using them, and the smaller passenger load might mean a more expensive cost gets spread across comparatively few passengers. There is heaps of space past the northern end of the terminal for commuter aircraft when WSI first opens. Likewise there is apron space past the southern end for parking larger international aircraft, that sometimes have a longer wait before their next flight.
@glyndavid2 mascot airport A380s are served by 3 aerobridges....one upper deck...one down middle deck and one down forward deck...I know I used to work at intl and have aligned these bridges to the A380S
This will be great for those who live in Penrith, but will be a nightmare for those of us who live in the city and discover our flight is way out there.
@@colindobson4045 getting the rail link to the airport from Parramatta via Glenfield is so essential I cannot believe it hasn't been started already, however, no matter how many rail links get built, Western Sydney airport is alway going to be at least an hour long journey from the city. It will be a pain where we sit down for most Sydney residents. Western Sydney is very sparsely populated and it will be decades before at least half of Sydney's population will be closer to Nancy Bird than Mascot. It will probably end up like London, where despite various airport options, most customers prefer to use Heathrow, and the alternate airports get relegated to budget airlines. I think it would be brilliant if a lot of cargo transport moves out there, because it will free-up more arrival/departure times for passenger movements at Mascot.
@David-gb3qm I'm at camden area probably 20 to 30mins away and the people in our area will definitely feel it as well but like I've said to other people if I don't like the noise and gets to bad I'll move away from Sydney which I was planning anyway eventually we will see
It depends a bit on which direction you are from the airport. For example, in line with the runway alignment will have more noise than off to a side. If you are behind hills or forest from the airport that will reduce it. The orientation and construction of your house or flat will also affect how it sounds inside. Sometimes that can be improved through insulation, and so on A good trick is to see where you are relative to the airport, then look at places in Sydney that are in roughly the same situation relative to the existing Sydney Airport. Google Earth is good for working out where that is. Then visit those places and see what the noise is like there from Sydney Airport. Lots of info and maps about expected noise levels in various areas are online. If you are concerned go to the visitor centre and/or contact those who get paid to let you know more about it.
@@tacitdionysus3220 Point out one property that has reduce it`s value around Mascot. All commercial events have teething problems and get resolved as soon as applicable. Fact is Mascot is at it`s peak and unable to grow and is over 100 years old starting as a paddock at first. What are the generations of Sydney siders to come going to do with an out dated airport that has trouble coping now ? Australia Advances and things must happen.
For now (which will do it for 30 + million passengers a year). The second runway and additional terminals lift that to 82 million (about the same as London Heathrow airport). The current Sydney Airport does about 40-45 million) Check the airport layout maps online - 10 MAP shows the initial layout, 82 MAP shows the developed version.
@@tacitdionysus3220 rubbish! this is smaller than the busy Adelaide airport that does around 7 million a year. Look on google earth, no room for expansion!
I am astounded that they are building a new International Airport and it only has one strip? Are they stupid? A decent Westerly or Southerly, which is common, and the whole place will be shut to operations. A school kid could have designed it better!
Why not look up the airport layout map online. You can see the full layout, with two runways, multiple terminals, more than 150 aerobridges, and a capacity equivalent to London Heathrow, well past that of the current Sydney Airport. As for crosswinds, airliners can deal with up to 33 to 38 knot surface crosswind component (about 60 to 70 kph). As a comparison, I instructed for years at Hoxton Park airport, not far from WSI, in light aircraft restricted to 15 to 20 knots. It was a rare day that even a strong westerly straight across its 16/34 (roughly North/South runway) was not safe or possible for take-off or landing. In fact it was a lot of fun; sometimes interesting, but fun. WSI airport has a 15/23 runway. So in the 230 degrees direction, it's nicely aligned about midway between South and West, so should be an even rarer problem there.
The days when airports were important architectural statements is long gone, along with any human touches. Most new airports around the world are as utilitarian as bus terminals. Western Sydney is very much following the latest trends, including not having a control tower. Aircraft movements will be handled remotely in some office with video cameras and AI becoming a growing trend toward treating passengers as cargo to be shunted around in the cheapest manner possible. Airport check-ins are now frustrating attempts to get machines to deal with human reality and imperfections. Older airports with smiles from helpful humans are becoming a thing of the past.
Lots questions need to be answered.... International Terminal for A380s....where are the aerobridges located....aerobridge A is ther but no B or C for upper deck? Parking is a long way to the terminal too How many lanes for the departures when the passengers arrive there. I dont see any? dont stuff it up like the mascot where the traffic build up during peak hour. And I hope the weather doesnt play up much because when the south west winds arrive during summer...I can see flights being diverted to Mascot. And why not build the 2nd rwy at the same time?? Stupid Idea not to build it now.Just do it,,,but as always....Goverbnebts will say...we run out of money.! I wont start on the motoways...yet.
International flights are scheduled to only account for 25-30% of traffic initially. there is sufficient capacity in the 7 swing gates serving international and or domestic...plus the remaining fully dedicated domestic gates
Enjoy the 15 to 20 minute taxying at Sydney on many flights, compared to the only 5 minute or so taxying at WSI (and the cheaper cost due less fuel used)
I don't dislike this airport design but architecturally nothing sig😮nificant certainly appears functional but too small only one runway. Too little too late small minded thinking should be looking to future. Hopefully in another 55 years they will expand it. They had the opportunity to build a world class international airport and they built a box, well an expensive box. I have never understood this country's inability to build for the future. Sydney current international airport is also a disgrace, maintenance lags behind entropy. Escalators that break down all the time lifts that don't always work, signs of water damage not repaired, repainting required, where and tear on carpeted areas is not dealt with air conditioning that doesn't work. It like walking into an airport of a third world country. Such a shame this new airport will look new for a while and if managed like Sydney airport will look like a dirty street lane in no time. I just don't get it such lost potential everything done as cheaply as possible then because of this it becomes more costly in long run, its like writing a computer program you can put data in but then not spending the money to get the data you need to operate out. Such short sightedness
Brisbane has only just put in a second large runway. A single runway can easily handle up to about 30+ million a year. The initial capacity of stage one at WSI is 10 million, ultimately expanding to 82 million with the second runway. All that information and maps of the Stage One and the final stage are easily accessible online.
have you been inside? do you know airports are warehouses with adaptable interiors. People interact with the inside not the outside. Architect is hamstrung by Budgets and Briefs
Adelaide isn't expandable to 68 (from the present 7) piers, each with two aerobridges, plus several separate single aerobridges at some terminal corners, and lower level entry ramps for smaller commuter aircraft. Check the airport layout maps online.
Hard to comprehend why the designers would opt for a boring linear layout over a circular one in which passengers and staff walk distances would be much reduced. Another award winning opportunity lost. 🫤
How so? People still need to go through security or to baggage pick-up before and after. Whether it's circular, semi-circular (like DFW) or straight, it's the luck of the draw how far you walk to the gate. The big advantage of straight designs is they are more easily fitted with moving walkways.
why does it need to be award winning. It needs to be fit for purpose. The linear arrangement is the most efficient for all the systems to be incorporated into it. Gatwick Airport tried a circular pier, A billion pounds to house 7 aircraft was so inefficient they cancelled it
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beautiful work. can't wait to transit through this airport when it's ready.
Thank you for watching I'm going out there on Sunday it's open day for the public looking forward to that cheers col 👍
I like how you provide details about each section and the zoom ins really help too
@@decepticons_destroy thank you 😊
Good night from Papua New Guinea. I enjoyed watching your contents.
Nice thank you for watching cheers col 👍
Things are really starting to take shape,in particular the terminal.
Noted only single jetways on international. Expecting planes to be smaller when open. Positive thinking
An opportunity to build a world class and architecturally significant airport like for example
Istanbul , Hong Kong , Beijing Daxing International , Chicago O'Hare International , Kuwait International and the addition to Changi Singapore
and so many more........
For an airport that has been in the making for as long l can remember this is shoebox and container design just doesn't cut it , a little better than Melbournes second airport
Avalon and that is a total joke it looks like a flyin flyout facility some place in remote WA .
I kind of have to agree with you, they could have made a real statement, but then like most Australian architecture, I doubt that they've heard of curves yet.
who is paying for this extra extravagance you hoped for? Building is fit for purpose and not costing the taxpayer significantly more then necessary
A bit of trivia. If you pause at 7.50 there is a view of the walkway (left to right) from the end of the Metro station box to the Terminal.
In the foreground is part of the (exterior) Departures facilities; (a car park, a one way road running around it clockwise, with walkways and passenger drop off points (one at an angle, the other more towards the camera)
Off to the right of screen is the Arrivals area which is less developed. It will have a similar road running clockwise, alongside its walkways. The open area within is probably more for rental cars, a place for cabs to assemble before moving to passenger pick-up points, and so on.
But what puzzled me is the little dark-roofed building just this side of the only walkway already roofed on that side. What the hell is that for?
The airport layout maps don't say, but show running from it is an 'active travel corridor' that heads towards Elizabeth Drive and ultimately runs parallel along the M12 (probably via the small circular tunnel under Elizabeth Drive). I'm guessing 'active travel' means things like 'riding a bike' and that the building is a bike storage facility.
@@tacitdionysus3220 nice Observations cheers col 👍
Australian government planning for yesterday.
Well they did start on the planning around 1974.
@@tedsmith6137 😂😂
The terminal building has all the charm of of a warehouse shed
It’s the inside that counts
So does any unfinished building that has no façade yet. Doh!
But the facade will go when the second runway is built. @@XTC3D
Agree, it is not very imaginative.
As long as you get on your flight on time and efficiently that's all I want when I fly I'm not walking around the terminal saying to my wife no this terminal is ugly let's not fly from this terminal so I think people are concentrating on a minor issue and people should judge the terminal by its performance wonce it opens then complain to the airport operator about poor performance and service until then enjoy your life 😉
This should have been built in Wilton. I live in Pyrmont and a fast train to Wilton would have been fine. I have never visited St Marys and don't even want to transit there
Great point hopefully they build the leppington station Extension to the aerotropolis station and there is talk about a Parramatta to western Sydney airport Extension to thanks for watching cheers col 👍
Domestic and International have just 14 gates between them? That seems.... far too few. Have I missed something?
no, the plans they obviously ended up using where the first of 1000 plans, just went back to the original of 20 years ago to save money
@GRAHAMAUS I can tell you from a reliable source dealing with marcquarie airports and pilots..that the major players will still be using mascot...qf1/2 11/12...7/8...80/81....Emirates and etihad and Qatar will use mascot for 2 aircraft each and if more than 2 they will use badgerys Creek...united will use 2 out 3 from mascot and American the same...low cost Airlines like Cebu Pacific's Air Asia...Scoot ...Fijian...Vietnam Airlines and anyone less than 2 will use badgerys Creek...China Southern will use 2 out of 3 mascot....the other at badgerys Creek...Singapore Airlines will use 2 out of 4 Mascot...any other airlines less than 2 will park at badgerys Creek...domestically will have some major routes e.g. Melbourne/ Brisbane/ Gold Coast/ Cairns out of badgery Creek and the rest will use mascot....it's called....corporate dollars 💸 💵 💲 🤑
There you have it....for now...
Not for initial operations (on about the same scale as Adelaide, or Gold Coast and Canberra combined). More are to be added. There will ultimately be about 70 piers like the 7 initial ones, plus other single aerobridges and (what appear to be) loading ramps for smaller aircraft around the reverse side of the extended terminal wings. Don't take my word for it, search for the airport layout maps online. 10 MAP shows the initial layout, 82 MAP shows the final layout.
WOW 6 International gates, what a copious amount of wasted money!
Just like Roma Street station in Brisbane - no idea of design - at least they could have. learned from Central Station in Sydney
Why can't we just create an airport that looks a bit more modern and nicer? Rival Asian cities, changi, suvarnabhumi. It really looks very ordinary.
Reggie,It looks modern to me.
A lot of people complaining about the look I couldn't care less I don't have a problem with the look of the terminal I'm would be more concerned about service of the terminal when it opens to the public happy flying mate 👍
we can, but the tax payer will get very upset. Its fit for purpose, it meets brief and budget
So much hate in the comments. I love to see the investment in infrastructure! where abouts is this being put?
in the middle of timbucktoo, a place where they have more foggy days than the present Sydney airport.
Yes I don't understand why people are so negative I mean is this airport really going Ruin their lives even before it opens Australians these days are complainers at least you have a positive comment thank for watching cheers col 👍
On the Cumberland plain, about equidistant between the Western Sydney cities of Penrith, Blacktown, Liverpool and Camden/Campbelltown.
Each of those cities has a population between 200,000 and 400,000 people. Including them, Western Sydney in total has a population greater than the rest of Sydney, and more industry and higher growth.
Google earth is always a bit behind reality, but the initial construction is already visible in satellite view.
Airport layout maps are available online - the 10 MAP version shows the initial version (opening at the end of 2026 with a single runway and handling capacity of 10 million passengers a year) - the 82 MAP version shows the final version with the second runway and multiple terminals and a capacity of 82 million a year (about the same as London Heathrow, and twice the current Sydney Airport's pre-Covid numbers)
From Day One it will have a full Cat IIIB instrument landing system allowing aircraft to land in very low visibility, like fog (much more so than at the current Sydney Airport which only has Cat II systems, with significantly poorer visibility limitations).
My grandpa works there
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Great Video. Can you get them to stop being a 24 hour service? It shows total disrespect for residents. They do it better at Mascot where the rich people live. BTW there has already been a landing on the runway :D:D:D
Unfortunately no it's either mascot or this airport thank you for watching my video
Wonder if you can catch the metro or drive to the airport maybe metro will open later because the current airport airport line was finished in the 2000s so you had to drive
From St marys station you can catch the train to the airport from anywhere else bus or car the metro will be operating in time for airport opening in late 2026
Looks good
Did Fair Dinkum Sheds win the contract to build this?
There is no domestic/international terminal. The gates themselves are switchable...
Us poor Melburnians can only watch with total envy. We cannot even organise a train line to our 60 year old third world airport. How embarrassment.
Don't A380s use three air bridges? The international gates only seem to be equipped with two.
I wouldn't know just google it
Typically A380's only use two, but three is not uncommon.
Only see 1, cause if 2 side by side can’t borrow next doors
All but one of the current piers have (or will have) two aerobridges. Those two can swing across to service an A380 parked nose in between two piers (or on the RH side of the southern-most pier).
Alternatively, two aircraft of 737/A320 size can be serviced by the aerobridges from a single pier - with one aircraft nose in between the piers, and the other nose in more to the end of the pier.
If you google earth Dubai Airport (80 million passengers a year) on satellite view, their western terminal has a similar layout, and you can see some aircraft being serviced by one aerobridge and some larger ones by two from the same pier.
The piers at WSI seem to be larger and better spaced to make it all a bit easier. It's a very flexible arrangement as any pier can be used for any aircraft type, instead of having, for example, only a limited number of gates for handling really large aircraft.
Like Dubai, WSI will have two runways, but ours will be much wider spaced apart, meaning separation between aircraft using them simultaneously is much less constrained and arguably safer.
You might have noticed the northern-most pier at WSI only has a single aerobridge outlet door. That's probably because its tarmac level doors will service commuter flights (directly or via buses, like at Sydney Airport) using smaller aircraft that are much lower to the ground, and normally loaded via integral stairs or mobile boarding ramps.
I've never seen smaller aircraft (SAAB 340 / DASH-8s) use aerobridges. Apart from their lower entry level, I suspect airlines get charged more fees for using them, and the smaller passenger load might mean a more expensive cost gets spread across comparatively few passengers.
There is heaps of space past the northern end of the terminal for commuter aircraft when WSI first opens. Likewise there is apron space past the southern end for parking larger international aircraft, that sometimes have a longer wait before their next flight.
@glyndavid2 mascot airport A380s are served by 3 aerobridges....one upper deck...one down middle deck and one down forward deck...I know I used to work at intl and have aligned these bridges to the A380S
The background music is too noisy.
Can't please everyone mate that's the idea for the viewer to get a understanding what the noise levels might be
Only six airbridges for the international terminal. short term thinking.
This will be great for those who live in Penrith, but will be a nightmare for those of us who live in the city and discover our flight is way out there.
Hopefully they build the leppington train line Extension to the aerotropolis station thanks for watching cheers col 👍
@@colindobson4045 getting the rail link to the airport from Parramatta via Glenfield is so essential I cannot believe it hasn't been started already, however, no matter how many rail links get built, Western Sydney airport is alway going to be at least an hour long journey from the city. It will be a pain where we sit down for most Sydney residents. Western Sydney is very sparsely populated and it will be decades before at least half of Sydney's population will be closer to Nancy Bird than Mascot.
It will probably end up like London, where despite various airport options, most customers prefer to use Heathrow, and the alternate airports get relegated to budget airlines. I think it would be brilliant if a lot of cargo transport moves out there, because it will free-up more arrival/departure times for passenger movements at Mascot.
Only 10 minutes from my home. Anyway i am not happy, because the noise polution.
@David-gb3qm I'm at camden area probably 20 to 30mins away and the people in our area will definitely feel it as well but like I've said to other people if I don't like the noise and gets to bad I'll move away from Sydney which I was planning anyway eventually we will see
@@colindobson4045 Mate, Camden will be ok, but Bonnyrigg, Edensor Park, Penrith and other's will be 100% affected by noise polution.
How small is this airport?
Yes
10MPPA capacity at opening day 80+ after stage 4 Big enough or small enough
Is this the new Australian Tesla gigafactory!
Looks to be bugger all room at each terminal gate for people to sit and wait to board their flights.
you know its bigger in real life then on your screen! how big should the gate lounges be. It meets all relevant space standards im sure
My company is laying all the flooring for the airport
Your company is helping make history be proud 👏
This airport is only 10 minutes from my home. I just worried about noise pollution.
@@David-gb3qm it's been planned for at least 40 years for this area
@@colindobson4045 I am not against this project, i am just worried for the noise polution. Mate, thanks for the video!
It depends a bit on which direction you are from the airport. For example, in line with the runway alignment will have more noise than off to a side. If you are behind hills or forest from the airport that will reduce it. The orientation and construction of your house or flat will also affect how it sounds inside. Sometimes that can be improved through insulation, and so on
A good trick is to see where you are relative to the airport, then look at places in Sydney that are in roughly the same situation relative to the existing Sydney Airport. Google Earth is good for working out where that is. Then visit those places and see what the noise is like there from Sydney Airport.
Lots of info and maps about expected noise levels in various areas are online. If you are concerned go to the visitor centre and/or contact those who get paid to let you know more about it.
@@tacitdionysus3220 Mate, thanks for this information, and for recommendation.
@@tacitdionysus3220 Point out one property that has reduce it`s value around Mascot. All commercial events have teething problems and get resolved as soon as applicable. Fact is Mascot is at it`s peak and unable to grow and is over 100 years old starting as a paddock at first. What are the generations of Sydney siders to come going to do with an out dated airport that has trouble coping now ? Australia Advances and things must happen.
Looks very small for what is needed with no easy expansion. Only one runway !
For now (which will do it for 30 + million passengers a year). The second runway and additional terminals lift that to 82 million (about the same as London Heathrow airport). The current Sydney Airport does about 40-45 million) Check the airport layout maps online - 10 MAP shows the initial layout, 82 MAP shows the developed version.
@@tacitdionysus3220 rubbish! this is smaller than the busy Adelaide airport that does around 7 million a year. Look on google earth, no room for expansion!
I am astounded that they are building a new International Airport and it only has one strip? Are they stupid? A decent Westerly or Southerly, which is common, and the whole place will be shut to operations. A school kid could have designed it better!
There are plans to duplicate it to the other side of the metro station so the airport will have 2 terminals and 2 runways.
@@tedsmith6137 information throughout the video
Why not look up the airport layout map online. You can see the full layout, with two runways, multiple terminals, more than 150 aerobridges, and a capacity equivalent to London Heathrow, well past that of the current Sydney Airport.
As for crosswinds, airliners can deal with up to 33 to 38 knot surface crosswind component (about 60 to 70 kph). As a comparison, I instructed for years at Hoxton Park airport, not far from WSI, in light aircraft restricted to 15 to 20 knots. It was a rare day that even a strong westerly straight across its 16/34 (roughly North/South runway) was not safe or possible for take-off or landing. In fact it was a lot of fun; sometimes interesting, but fun.
WSI airport has a 15/23 runway. So in the 230 degrees direction, it's nicely aligned about midway between South and West, so should be an even rarer problem there.
Looks just like the local bunnings down the road.
Who signed off on this design?
The days when airports were important architectural statements is long gone, along with any human touches. Most new airports around the world are as utilitarian as bus terminals. Western Sydney is very much following the latest trends, including not having a control tower. Aircraft movements will be handled remotely in some office with video cameras and AI becoming a growing trend toward treating passengers as cargo to be shunted around in the cheapest manner possible. Airport check-ins are now frustrating attempts to get machines to deal with human reality and imperfections. Older airports with smiles from helpful humans are becoming a thing of the past.
@@artistjoh it's unfortunate the way the world is heading these days.
@@Xwisit Yeppers. To the money people we are just cattle to be milked on the way past.
I actually thought this was animated at first 😂😅
@StealthFB22 than I done my job 🤣😅
@@colindobson4045 Oh it is? Hahahaha 😂
@StealthFB22 yeah everyone and everything is fake 🤣😅
Looks kinda small😕
Where's the ATC tower going?
@AUmarcus there is information throughout the video and there isn't a traditional control tower
@@colindobson4045
Thanks.
@@AUmarcus no problem 👍
@@AUmarcus staying at mascot😂😂
Why is there no workers there
Because it's at the end of their shift
Why no one working?
Because it was at 4pm workers 3.30pm
It looks like a small airport, very small terminals.
When you're on site you wouldn't say that it's actually very big mate
Lots questions need to be answered....
International Terminal for A380s....where are the aerobridges located....aerobridge A is ther but no B or C for upper deck?
Parking is a long way to the terminal too
How many lanes for the departures when the passengers arrive there. I dont see any? dont stuff it up like the mascot where the traffic build up during peak hour.
And I hope the weather doesnt play up much because when the south west winds arrive during summer...I can see flights being diverted to Mascot.
And why not build the 2nd rwy at the same time?? Stupid Idea not to build it now.Just do it,,,but as always....Goverbnebts will say...we run out of money.! I wont start on the motoways...yet.
They have a website so ask them questions you have otherwise you probably won't get answers on social media mate cheers col 👍
The runway directions are 05/23 (aligned 050 and 230 degrees). 230 degrees is actually into the south west.
Brutally honest it's poor.
So if you live in Sydney you will not use it because of the look 😉
Tones,are you joking?
Thank god i moved from Western Sydney
6 International bays? Hmmm...... Oh dear.
There are seven piers for now, to be expanded to 70. Check the airport layout maps online
@@tacitdionysus3220 Thanks for the info. Appreciated.
International flights are scheduled to only account for 25-30% of traffic initially. there is sufficient capacity in the 7 swing gates serving international and or domestic...plus the remaining fully dedicated domestic gates
No doubt bugger all DDA approved stuff for the disabled.
So 1960s design. Who is the Architect!!!
It's how Efficient and a pleasant experience passengers have mate the look of a terminal isn't at the top of my list
what about what you can see is 1960's design. also what does it matter. have you seen the inside where people will be? probably havent I bet!
50 years in the making,,
Wont work fog is no good for cameras the naked eye is much better.
Based on what? Can you see through fog? I can't. But infra-red cameras can.
You do know they have technology for fog in a lot of newer airports, this being one of them.
Unfortunately, such a tiny airport.only the budget airlines would use it
Have you been there 🤔 and no it's not a budget airline airport either it has international flights and domestic flights
White Elephant, and Built on wrong Place
Enjoy the two day walk to your plane! 🙄🥵
Bit of Exaggeration mate it's about 100mts from the station and drop off by car is probably 30mts so many negative people in the comments 🙄
Enjoy the 15 to 20 minute taxying at Sydney on many flights, compared to the only 5 minute or so taxying at WSI (and the cheaper cost due less fuel used)
I don't dislike this airport design but architecturally nothing sig😮nificant certainly appears functional but too small only one runway. Too little too late small minded thinking should be looking to future. Hopefully in another 55 years they will expand it. They had the opportunity to build a world class international airport and they built a box, well an expensive box. I have never understood this country's inability to build for the future. Sydney current international airport is also a disgrace, maintenance lags behind entropy. Escalators that break down all the time lifts that don't always work, signs of water damage not repaired, repainting required, where and tear on carpeted areas is not dealt with air conditioning that doesn't work. It like walking into an airport of a third world country. Such a shame this new airport will look new for a while and if managed like Sydney airport will look like a dirty street lane in no time. I just don't get it such lost potential everything done as cheaply as possible then because of this it becomes more costly in long run, its like writing a computer program you can put data in but then not spending the money to get the data you need to operate out. Such short sightedness
Brisbane has only just put in a second large runway. A single runway can easily handle up to about 30+ million a year. The initial capacity of stage one at WSI is 10 million, ultimately expanding to 82 million with the second runway. All that information and maps of the Stage One and the final stage are easily accessible online.
Ugly, not artistic at all, are they warehouses . Can’t find a better architect firm ?
have you been inside? do you know airports are warehouses with adaptable interiors. People interact with the inside not the outside. Architect is hamstrung by Budgets and Briefs
Adelaide has more gates than this
@jason_glover probably however Adelaide doesn't have two major airports
Adelaide isn't expandable to 68 (from the present 7) piers, each with two aerobridges, plus several separate single aerobridges at some terminal corners, and lower level entry ramps for smaller commuter aircraft. Check the airport layout maps online.
Hard to comprehend why the designers would opt for a boring linear layout over a circular one in which passengers and staff walk distances would be much reduced. Another award winning opportunity lost. 🫤
How so? People still need to go through security or to baggage pick-up before and after. Whether it's circular, semi-circular (like DFW) or straight, it's the luck of the draw how far you walk to the gate. The big advantage of straight designs is they are more easily fitted with moving walkways.
why does it need to be award winning. It needs to be fit for purpose. The linear arrangement is the most efficient for all the systems to be incorporated into it. Gatwick Airport tried a circular pier, A billion pounds to house 7 aircraft was so inefficient they cancelled it