Sun Ultra 5 UNIX Workstation running Solaris 8
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- This is a tour of my Sun Ultra 5 UNIX Workstation from between 1998 and 2002 (Mine appears to have been manufactured in the year 2000). It has a 400MHz UltraSPARC IIi CPU with 512mb of RAM and an 8.6gb IDE hard drive and is running Solaris 8.
Oracle's site causing these machines to crash pretty much sums up their attitude towards Solaris haha
Good ol' Slowaris 2.8 ;) I must have installed hundreds of systems with 2.8 back in the late 90's and early 2000's, while working for SUN MIcrosystems in Brussels as a contractor...
It's slow, but very reliable and very scalable (up to 64CPUs back in the late 90's!) :)
Too bad these machines were so expensive. With a more competitive price aimed at the general consumer, today we might would have lived in a world of unix, instead of windows...
More especially, we would have been using 64bit in the consumer market for much longer.
Microsoft had the motto "embrace, extend, and extinguish". They got to the top by driving the competition out. It took Apple forever to be a serious contender to Microsoft after the mid 90's.
And still Apple has like 10% market share :-/
Not to split hairs, but .... technically we do live in a world of Unix! Android, iOS, Mac, Linux, and the vast majority of servers that serve up web content are running some sort of Unix OS. ... not to mention switches and routers all across the internet that technically run linux or some "nix." When you really think about it, Windows really is in the minority as far as OS usage until you consider only client systems. :)
not to mention that there is much more of original UNIX deep in Windows guts starting with NT 3.51 than most people imagine... Also, as many people here are well aware, you can have native UNIX shell in Windows 10... just add WSL and run bash - kaboom, you're in Ubuntu console. I managed even to run GUI natively using an external X server (VcXsrv), but since my laptop's video capability is limited to what Intel HD4000 can muster, it's a pain, because compiz uses OpenGL exclusively, at least in this case, and HD4000 isn't stellar in that department. WSL can't yet work with external USB devices and some other stuff, but I think it's a question of time, not probability, to make two ecosystems fully cross-compatible at least from WSL perspective (I'm willing to switch to whatever *nix except MacOS the very day I can run the most recent Adobe software as good as I do it in Windows for the last 20 years).
Ah yes, this machine was where I started learning C++ on at my local college. Loved how unique they were.
This is a blast from the past. There is a good chance that system passed through my hands. I worked for Sun in Linlithgow :))
A real trip down memory lane! Brought back memories of working at Sun's plant in Linlithgow.
Just remembered another task this old beast was doing for us. At one time we provided an Internet Radio stream for a local community radio station. They were not tech savvy at all so to simplify things I hooked an old TRIO FM tuner up to the Sun tuned into their station. We then had a tool like 'sox' I think encoding the stream to OGG Vorbis and icecast to stream it. It ran that stream quite a while without problems. We wrote a little web applet that had an OGG player in it for people tuning in.
That has got to be the fastest I've ever seen CDE run.
What are you on about? I ran CDE on my MacBook Pro last year. much faster
dude I just found you channel, it's like a treasure, gonna have to watch everything you got now.
That "more modern firmware" is, in fact, a complete Forth environment. Therefore if you'll learn Forth, you can work on this machine without booting Solaris, nor anything. Yes, the problem may be "lack of software", I agree - well, after you learn Forh you'll create all you need by yourself. ;)
First time I've actually seen Solaris in action, even though I've heard about it for a while.
Toran Shaw Solaris was an awesome OS. Next to OSX and IRIX, it was one of the few usable commercial UNIX variants which performed great as either a server or client OS. Too bad it’s dying a slow, undeserved death at the hands of one rich asshole called Larry Ellison over at Oracle nowadays 😞
Sun donated an entire lab of these things to Trent Univeristy in Peterborough. They weren't super fast compared to PCs when I got there. For a lot of students, it was their first taste of a unix-like OS.
Love these machines. We used these in my first job after college. Everyone had Dilbert cartoons in their cubes as well...
5:33 reminded me of Netscape. Best browser ever.
I had one of these when I was an Intern at Sun. I loved it. And I loved being an intern there too.
Very nice workstation here, Sun's workstations really had a "professional" feel that you could only see on early IBM PCs, neat !
❤Sun Netra, where I started learning Unix. Back in 2000, found out there is a speaker hidden inside that unsimiling server! out of curiosity I converted some MP3 to AU format and somehow managed to copy that into the server and if remember correctly, played it loud using 'sox'... such a satisfying moment.
Hi. 10 years ago, I revived 3 of those machines, recovered from the storage, because we had a 0-day in bind which was running un SunOs 5.6, with no update anymore. I installed debian/sparc64 on them, and they returned in a server room. The hardware was on the top of quality, like you mentionned. I later had a Blade100, which was already not in the same league anymore.
it's nice too see that you like older hardware like these old SUN machines :) i'm in to DEC Alpha machines! i had a sun machine earlier on some years ago E420R.
Used one of these during an MSc at Edinburgh Uni. In fact, the label on your machine looks *very* familiar... These were all replaced by Linux machines by the department just after we left. My first experience of Unix.
thank god they were replaced. Solaris sucks real bad
I had one of these as a freebie given to me a friend that was chucking it out. It was used as a sort of general purpose machine at work we just tried crap out on. It was one of the most reliable machines on the network. Aside from being a general purpose thing, it ran NTP for several hundred clients. I had it running Asterisk IP PBX at one point too. It was also a general purpose web server, we hosted things like the "Down for maintenance" page, because it was one host that was always up we could redirect traffic to in an emergency.
i cut my skills on these units along time ago.
The machine was also used as an SSP to E10k's etc. Really handy also as terminal machines to connect to servers etc
This comment is a little late but for a while PCMCIA was a standard for US Military computers. We used Sun Workstations for a while so they had to be fitted with one. You will also find them on Dell workstations.
I love my ultra 10 station. it is running solaris 5.6. Works great and smootly :-)
Enrique Borja que uso le das???
I like how some old computer systems had Help buttons on their keyboards or have command line based firmware. Neat!
I have alot of nostalgia for these old SUN Sparcstations and the like considering it was the first computer I ever had. Found a setup (Monitor, KB, Computer, Mouse) in the dump and took it home around 2009. While it was obsolete by then, it was a fun system to play around with. Sadly the thing died about a month after I got it (would not show any signal)
Used a sun ultra workstation around 2003-2005, time flies.
The OpenBoot firmware is also a Forth language environment and you can type arbitrary Forth programs into the boot console. To see it work as a calculator, try something like "123 123 + .". Add-on cards would include Forth bytecode on a ROM to initialize the hardware.
I always wanted to do some case modding and put a modern Xeon into it.
The pizzabook always gives me good memories when i was fresh in college.
I'd be tempted to start with a Blade 100/150 instead, because their motherboards were ATX-ish, IIRC, so fitting a modern mobo in there wouldn't be too hard.
Easier on a Blade 2500, for sure, but those are boring ATX towers - they'd look like any old PC, so the heck with that :P
Exactly. The only reason is that the U5 still has a unique design.
I like the Sun IPX cases. They are cute, fit a mITX mobo and then some.
Last summer someone local to me gave a bunch of them away but I was late and got only a harddrive enclosure. Same size but vent holes in the front instead of floppy. May be better for cooing though.
Intel chips in a Sun chassis :( Let me guess, you'd put Linux on it? Or ... Windows? :(
@@lunasophia9002 A hackintosh of course
Neat looking machine... and the history was a cool find too..
Cool videos Cameron, keep it up!
theres a pci card that allows you to run x86 programs , that's cool
The Common Desktop Environment can now run on Linux!
This is lovely. Im putting together an ultra 5 actually. Your keyboard uses the other layout with the capslock key being in the usual place. ive got a type 7 keyboard with a control key in caps' place.
I'd love to get into Sun & UNIX machines and get my paws on some pro software used in creative industries. SGI and Amiga are also of great interest.
This will create so much
Nice video, keep shooting them! I've also recently get Sun Blade 100 savages from dumpsterand now just waiting for some spare time to install Solaris on it. It Also has SunPCI card which is pretty much another computer on PCI card which can run Windows on it.
I have the SunPCI packages for Solaris.
it took a lot more effort than I thought but I got 8 installed on mine.
The port you are unsure about is a UPA port (Ultra Port Architecture), bascially a Sun version of an AGP port - dedicated for connecting graphics cards.
It's a shame that all of the old UNIX workstations of the day died out. From the HP9000 and VAXstation to the RS/6000 and Sun Ultra series, tons of competitors to Wintel existed back in the day. Today, I guess we still have OpenPOWER, but there really isn't much outside of the X86_64 Windows/Mac market at the moment. I guess we'll have to see what Apple and ARM manage to do in the coming years!
Back in 1996, we ran Ultras as web servers and they pushed over 1GB of data a month. That was nearly all text and very few graphics.
Who are we? I knew many outfits like that.
Ugh I spent most of the late 90s and early 00s staring at that screen
The brown slot is for a graphics card for the ultra 10. Not a riser card/slot
So much cool words in the title
For what I know, yeah, this machine was pricey, starting at 2400 bucks. But hey, similarly specced macintoshes back then were at least just as expensive, if not more. And this is a 64-bit machine, too!
Great video. Anyone else feel like this dude is running at 4x speed?
Yeah. And I love it!,
I've got recently a Sun Ultra 10 (which unfortunally had a faulty motherboard), which is an Ultra 5 on steroids. They both share the same motherboard, so i used a motherboard from an Ultra 5 (with a dead CPU) and i installed in my Ultra 10 (to support powerful CPUs you need at least the Einstein 21 motherboard).
Mine features a 440MHz UltraSPARC IIi, 768MB of RAM (for some reason the Hyundai pair gets detected as 256MB, when instead should be 512MB, bringing the machine to 1GB of RAM), a 20GB IDE HDD, a Creator 3D card (that i removed from the system, since that i don't have a 13W3 to VGA/BNC cable) and a Sun 1GB ethernet card. I added a Tekram DC-390F, since that being based on the NCR 53C875 it gets detected by OpenFirmware, and i could install Solaris, BSD or Linux
Why did Sun put the Mac address on a nvram chip that had a battery that would of course fail in time? It is so dumb I had 4 Sun Ultra 5s 4 Utra 10s 3 Ultra 60's all rendered useless for my needs by a dead NVRAM! so sad :-(
I learned Mentor Graphics Design Architect on one of those... a long time ago in a faraway galaxy.
Had an all in one Sun ELC I sadly dumpstered like a decade ago while moving. Not the fastest but it was only supposed to be used as an XTerm.
And yes the MAC address 0ed out is due to the failed battery.
I remember the Sun SLC's and ELC's! You could add a disk to them via the external SCSI port. I did to mine but once the monitor went you were rather stuffed. I remember lusting after the IPC/IPX machines...
Of course it's up to you BUT your explanations are quite fast for non-native english. TY.
Да, да, логопед по нему плачет :) Хотя, я тоже базарю быстро на родном, правда, внятно...
There's a feature where you can slow down the video. Hope this helps!
You could upgrade it to Solaris 10 if you wanted to, though with less than 2GB of RAM I wouldn't want to.
A fair few PCI cards from PCs will work - if you want USB, a PCI USB card will do the job.
Maximum of the U5 was 1 GB. I maxed it out and it was slow, even when it was brand new.
Solaris 10 is a huuuuuuuuge memory hog between ZFS, zones, and all the other cool things it can do. I wouldn't want to touch it with anything less than 4 GB at an absolute minimum, and preferably as much as possible. L2ARC IS HUNGRY!
Ahhh, fond memories
Including the crappy, crappy, desktop experience. I'm actually surprised I don't have horrible nightmares over that thing.
My Ultra 10 ( a.pomf.cat/zrivlv.jpg ) was saved from the dumpster at NJIT from a friend that moved to France and gave it to me along with a Blade 1000 and a couple of SGI workstations. the Blade 1000 is long gone, traded it for a Sun X2200 M2 (which now has a couple 2373 EE's and 64GB of RAM, waiting to be colo'd in California) and the Ultra 10 still happily runs on my side desk on a KVM switch if I really need to get local access to it.
The U5 and 10 share a motherboard, your annotation is correct. if you remove the floppy drive in the U5, you can install the full 1GB of RAM the board supports, which needs double-height RAM sticks otherwise. the 5 and 10, at the end of their life, were cheaped out on their capacitors, and the filter caps for the CPU board to the immediate right of the card sockets went all puffy in mine some time before I acquired it, probably why mine went into the dumpster initially. the brand of capacitors was IQ, so watch that if you have similar. if you're lucky to have been bestowed with a reputable brand, you should be good. if not, it's a fine time to replace them out with low-ESR electrolytics or solid-polys if possible, and re-paste the CPU at the same time-- the original compound and thermal pads are now so old that they're seeping oils from seperation onto the CPU and cache chips, increasing thermal resistance.
my PSU also went short a couple boots after I got it, and I had to install a different one. the main thing to be worried about is that I don't think it follows the ATX spec to a T from that time period, so the 6-pin header going to power the UPA slot for the optional Creator3D card might not be the same electrically as what it wants. if you're not ever going to use that slot and opt for an XVR-100 card like I have in one of the PCI slots, you don't even need it if you've replaced the PSU, and in practice any standard ATX PSU from this decade will do just fine, especially if you plan on adding SATA drives of any kind in any forseeable future.
These run very well with said XVR-100 (or equivalent flashed Radeon 7000 64MB), an NEC-chipset USB card, an Intel Pro/1000 Eth card and a SATA card (SiI3112 or 3114, take your pick, needs a Mac Open Firmware BIOS) so long as everything is good for those on the host OS. No idea about Solaris 8+, apparently it's all supported with the proper patches on 9... but as you're probably well aware with your work with the Tardis project, they do run Debian (and OpenBSD) formidably. the thing to watch is the on-board IDE controller is limited to a max speed of about 15MB/s in either direction, and this can make the system appear slower than it is. if there's a SATA card installed one can easily get around 65-70MB/s over the PCI bus, and I believe it does bus mastering pretty well in that regard. Sadly there's not a single recorded case of anyone ever booting off SATA in these systems, something at some point in time I plan on becoming the first to document.
the National Semiconductor PHY for the on-board Sun GEM 10/100 NIC (immediately above the onboard ATI Rage GPU) should be heatsinked at this age in its life, especially since it can reach 60-70C temperatures in some cases. without even being plugged in or being used. Although it runs this hot by design since it's first-gen Fast Ethernet, it can cause a lot of unnecessary heat buildup in the system by the card slots, and fizzle out, leaving your only option to be an add-in Ethernet card which should be used anyway-- the GEM chipsets have a bit more overhead in comparison to a more modern Gigabit PCI card.
May your Ultra 5 live a long, happy life in retirement, and hopefully you can get that NVRAM battery taken a look at some day. Having done the mod myself, it's not pretty, and you can easily destroy the NVRAM chip underneath if you're not careful-- this almost happened to me. (sorry for the wall o' text, also.)
I also have a U10 saved from a dumpster ( was an MRI or CT scan terminal in a previous life).
Only served for 4 years, that's insanely short.
That was Sun. There Open Source idea was nice but they failed at a company with their very overpriced stuff.
I saw earlier version in a university back in 1996. Look kinda same hardware.
I still have one of these I think the cpu is a 360, and it’s sitting in a corner in a box tore down with a few parts that I have given up on replacing. It use to be a good box ran Solaris 7 back in the day I always hated cdm.
I too have one of these. It can run Solaris 11, but mine is a bit slow as it currently only has 256MB. I'm going to do a video on mine eventually.
The IDE in that was very, very slow. The machine could be improved a great deal by adding a sun supported Ultra Wide SCSI card. I ran a Ultra Sparc 5 running OpenBSD as my firewall about a decade ago now.
The Amiga 1000 had a reverse gender 25 pin serial.
4:33 click click clack pffftt
That 'pffftt' is two-factor authentication with farts, windows will have that feature next decade.
you may also like my Ultra 5 overview running Linux: ruclips.net/video/6S5P38EjVas/видео.html
Wish I had one of these...
Update: I now do. And an Ultra 2 as well.
The ethernet card is called "hme" because they name the chipset "Happy Meal Ethernet" - I think this is because it had a more capable brother chip called "Big Mac".
Wow it was capable of IPv6 :O
Yup. As usual, Unix adopts things far, far before Microsoft does. IPv6, the internet in general, 64 bit, security, ...
In comparison to the older Sparcstation 2, 10 and 20 this machine appears to be a cheap low cost design without the brilliant design of its predecessors.
Yeah, the Ultra 5 was marketed as a lower cost machine that uses more standard PC hardware. On the plus side, it means that for people trying to use them nowadays it's easier to get spare parts for them (IDE drives, ATX PSUs, VGA monitors) although it does make them a bit more boring! :P
The sparq 20 was an awesome machine, tbe case was so strong to nold those heavy assed monitors
Anyway this is awesome machine considering its age.
The DE looks hideous but nostalgic.
My mom worked at a place that her get ahold of one of these Solaris machines when I was like seven and I used it to play games on pbs kids but most of the games didn't work because I couldn't figure out flash player
CDE Common Desktop Env.
How/where are you able to find examples of old tech that's so we'll preserved? Where I'm from, such a machine would be in execrable condition.
This particular one came from a project at university while I was still a student, it had been being used as a server and then sat unused in the corner of a server room for many years so didn't ever see much "hands on" use. Most of my other machines have come from eBay.
Think SGI computers was first to use 64bit CPU's
Didn't IE5 make it to Solaris?
Yeah, it did.
If you want a more modern browser, though, look to Firefox.
Ohh Siemens also did a lot of stuff with inverse gender serial connectors.
rip sun
Cameron could you message me. The British army are still using these machines to run a simulation programme. It’s a lost art and we are struggling for expertise. The systems are in great condition but nobody know how to use them.
Really, you can't find people who know Solaris?
Sadly not.
The dream solution would be to lift the software (simulation) and place onto a modern day windows based computer. I appreciate this would have to be run in a virtual area, but the simulator also needs to be networked in a classroom via Ethernet with a master terminal. I agree that it’s sad that we no longer have the expertise, but the military is windows based nowadays.
WOW.... Well, I know the hardware and software well... But I'm not a British or UK citizen (Aussie)
Andrew, thanks for the reply. I would love to chat more and understand the art of the possible. Could I give you my email and I could then frame the problem in a little more detail.
I have the ultra Sparc 5 but the CD Rom seams to be broken. What type of do i need to replace it ?
But was it better than the Next?
I subscribed
Man, this brings back memories. When the video started, I could swear I was looking at my office machine from 1999. I loved the heck out of that thing. It's really too bad I couldn't take it with me when I left.
In terms of the web browser, there was an IE5 installation for Solaris. I do NOT recommend it. It was a piece of crap and broke my desktop profile. Instead, go find a Solaris compile of Mozilla. I had a cron job setup to compile Mozilla every night. (It would make a backup of the previous day just in case.) Mozilla worked really well on the machine at the time. It won't work great on a modern web, but it would have a better chance of rendering pages than Netscape. Netscape is as incompatible as you can get with a modern web.
... why would you ever willingly use IE? Seriously.
@@lunasophia9002 Believe it or not (I know it's hard to believe) but in 1999, Internet Explorer 5 was the BEST web browser on the market. It was the Chrome of its day., providing a fast and smooth experience that was light years ahead of the competition It would be another 5 years or so until Firefox would seriously challenge IE in its IE6 incarnation.
@@thewiirocks I had already given up on Windows at that point and was using Linux full time. Really, the only issues I had with webpages that I remember were with Galeon and Epiphany. Firefox--Phoenix, as it was then known--was pretty zippy and rather nice.
@@lunasophia9002 Your timeline is WAY off. The Phoenix project didn't even *start* until 2002, three years after my story. In 1999, KDE 1.0 ruled the roost, GNOME was trash that RedHat was shipping with Enlightenment because it "was so pretty!", and the only viable browser option other than Internet Explorer was Netscape Navigator 4.0. And I say "viable" loosely because a LOT of websites didn't work. I setup a cron script to build Mozilla nightlies on my SPARC box so that I could have a browser that didn't suck. Speaking of sucking, Linux REALLY sucked at that time. I used FreeBSD over the next few years with much greater success. Better hardware support, faster performance, better memory management, *cough*didn'tloseallmyfiles*cough*. As a usable desktop, Linux was a number of years out from not being hot garbage.
Open source CPU on a closed source OS... Curious
How do u fix the clock problem? There is still a demand for these machines as proprietary apps in medical , eg DLX from GE, and net servers fields are running, currently, on Solaris. The battery is the killer. It is not just doing a surgical operation to change it the killer battery but u have to program it with the same parameters , if u saved them on a sheet of paper, needed by theedical Apps to run properly. Great machine with a killer fatal flaw. A Medical equipment worth a million dollars depending on a 10 cent battery that could fail any time during a life saving medical procedure; a battery very difficult to change and to reprogram. When Sun sold the compact foot-print Sun 5 , and others, to the top medical manufacturers to run their life saving apps, Sun failed to disclose this fatal flaw. Why would Sun install the Mac address and 15 other crucial parameters on a non battery dependent nvram? It would make the machine useless once it failed in 2 to 7 years..
Hello therefrom Greece i just try to replace the SCSI hdd to a server with solaris and i have some problems could u help me ? I have a screenshot to sed you
sir. type 5 keyboard able to use USB PC
But will it play Minecraft
Very interesting, but a tiny wee bit unintelligible.
Can it run Solaris 10 or 11 if you upgrade it today? Since Oracle is still developing the Solaris OS along side Oracle Linux!
"developing"
Solaris is pretty much dead nowadays.
Do you know what Desktop Environment Solaris ran here?
+Old Aussie Ads It's CDE (Common Desktop Environment)
You can acutally run CDE on other Unix implemetations now since it is open sourced.
Older versions of XFCE in Linux were designed to somewhat clone the look and feel of CDE.
I used to administer some AIX boxes that also used CDE and Motif; they weren't Sun specific.
My first Mac was an SE and I always found CDE clunky.
Because it was called the "Common" Desktop environment CDE ran on HP-UX, Digital Unix, Solaris, Unixware and others. Even the OpenVMS window manager was close to CDE.
CDE was terrible. I worked on one of these commonly during college
Giant fart at 4:40
InRun fsck (1m)-of error
what about apt-get update, apt-get upgrade to try and get the system working properly.
This isn't Linux -- this is Solaris, which doesn't use apt.
Lawrie Matthews that is a shame apt-get is compatible with GHOST-BSD
ip conflict on the network. Mac addr on switch pointing to something else on the network and return is going to the other machine?
Nah, the machine had lost its MAC address due to the NVRAM battery failing so it was using a MAC address of 00:00:00:00:00:00 and the switch was therefore not forwarding the traffic. I've since been able to get it working by running a series of commands from the OpenBoot prompt before booting to set a MAC address (I show a similar process in my SparcServer 5 video as this has the same fault)
nice, but can it run Skyrim? :P
Showing error Unexpected free inode 104, run fsck(1m) -of . Operating systems sun solaris 5.10
Sun v440 system
How to solve this problem.
Can run Windows on this computer?
CANONICAL should release SOLARIS 8 to the general public as SOLARIS 8 professional with the ability to use it as a workstation or as a server and SOLARIS 8 Home for the computer enthusiasts instead of UBUNTU 18.4.
Canonical have nothing to do with Solaris, Oracle deals with Solaris after its acquisition of Sun Microsystems.
Once you start talking, you talk really fast...
I am not being completely facicetious (spelt wong) as what is this machine good for? Please forgive my ignorance but I need to understand why you eat dry Ryvita (linux) as opposed to lovely rich seeded bread.(Apple/Windows) Enlighten me.
Back in the day, machines like this would have been used for heavy workloads such as software development, data processing, CAD and database work or other applications where a rock stable UNIX workstation would have been required. They were never aimed average consumers. This sort of machine was one of the lower end workstations, Sun made machines compatible with the same software with tonnes of CPUs and loads of RAM for the time period. Obviously nowadays it is pretty much useless outside of running legacy software that is tied to this sort of hardware
As for my choice of operating system, I use all OSs in different situations, I simply find that something UNIX-like (i.e. Linux or FreeBSD) works better for my needs and I can work faster in it than in Windows. I also love MacOS however their current desktop hardware lineup doesn't suit me unfortunately and I'd want the same OS on both my desktop and laptop. I personally have no strong opinions on different OSs, I use whatever works best for the specific task I'm doing.
That clears it up. I guess it is as much a memory lane trip for you as Windows 98 laptops are for me? I like all PCs but I do wonder why some ever engender affection when they only ever existed in a council office in Battersea or somewhere even less exciting. Accounting has to be done but I would never hold a spreadsheet to my chest and tell it I love it.
I am glad somebody loves these poor orphans though. Every body/thing needs to be loved!
It's running Solaris, not Linux.
Mission critical SCADA systems used to use things like Unix or OpenVMS. Some of the OpenVMS systems I installed have run more than a decade which is rather longer than the standard PC install. One of my employers was a coal fired Power station and their SCADA was Solaris/Sun based. SCADA sysems are not replaced often due to the huge costs and downtime/risks involved.
Personally, I really love the Sun Blade 1000 and 2000. Due to both the multi cpu's but also due to the ability to use FC-AL disks internally.
Very sorry, but your accent is so thick, I can't understand you.
Nothing personal, mate. Sorry.