Nice. Im a Fuji shooter and bought the a7cii yesterday. Wow the autofocus is crazy. It’s gonna be my travel video/photo camera. While I’ll keep my x100v for the beautiful Fuji colours.
I found the colors in the A7Cii to be considerably improved over the previous model. Not completely on par with Fuji, but very close - to the point I no longer struggle or miss the Fuji system.
Any updates on your thoughts? I own a fuji xt5, and usually shoot raw. I'm Debating to switch bc the autofocus is still iffy. Love the fuji feel, but wanted to know if you have updates on your opinion about the colours
I'm a bit of a camera wh*re and slept with a bunch of brands until I married Fuji. I was with Canon first 5dII was my gateway drug and then moved to the first FF MILC from Canon the EOS R, and then had a few affairs with the Sony A7III and then the A7IV and then a few times with the A6400 and it was actually quite good. Paired with some smol lenses, it was the best setup ever and then... Fuji Xt3 came to my life and then we got married. xt3 with the 27 2.8 was my true love. It wasn't about the size or the performance but he made me feel special... Using the big chunky full frame boys feels like an abusive relationship, my arms are always dead after a day handling them and I feel like I always have to overcompensate and impress because I have them big black full frames and the photos should look better and it is making me sad because sometimes I feel like I am lacking something and that I am not good enough... But the Fuji X-T3 was not like that. I always feel like my shots look better than the gear that I am using. He made me feel special. We now have 2 kids, XH2, XT2 and a bunch of lenses together.
As an amateur/enthusiast photographer it comes down to a performance for the price tradeoff. And, you have to include the lenses in the equation. When I was first shopping for a camera I looked at all of the choices. Most bodies alone cost more than what I paid for my whole barely used X-T3 kit. And, when I looked at lens prices, the choice became easier. Finally, I wasn't interested in paying for something that was more videocentric. Don't know if I will be getting a new camera any time soon. The X-T3 is more than capable enough for me right now. And, I tried shoot a bit of vide with it using the 18-55 and it did a pretty good job just shooting in Eterna. I still have a lot to learn and the X-T3 seems like a good tool to learn with. Have a great week and a very Happy New Year!!
I bought the Sony a7c mark 1 and purchased a Fujifilm x-e4 trying to find an x100v. I added a Sony a7iv and a Fujifilm x-pro3. I am considering getting the a7cii but hesitant to get rid of the a7c and x-e4. Although I love shooting Fujifilm, I won’t stop shooting Sony. As you mentioned, they both give two fantastic looks and shooting experiences. I am not an xt5 fan. It feels too plasticky. I prefer the feel of the x-pro3 in hand. The xh2 feels great in hand but it’s as big as the a7iv. I will carry my a7iv with my Tamron 35-150mm f/2-2.8 for portrait shoots and my x-pro3 with the Viltrox 75mm f/1.2. For just edc, x-e4 or x-pro3 with 23mm f/2 or a7c with 40mm f/2.8. Having two systems is great but it is expensive getting lenses for both.
@@Iamtongue It’s great! It is heavy but it means I don’t have to carry a bunch of prime lenses. It weighs 1165 grams so a little more than the new FE 70-200mm f/2.8 mark II but less then mark i. On the a7c I added a smallrig grip and it was good. But it definitely feels better on the a7iv. But it is so versatile that it rarely comes off. I know you prefer smaller lenses but I would recommend you try the Tamron 35-150mm on a shoot since the grip on the a7cii is bigger. I do carry the FE 20mm f/1.8 if I need wide shots or I keep it on my a7c.
I’m a longtime Fuji user who just picked up an a7cmk1. The lowlight performance is dramatically better. Same with DR when raising shadows on a backlit subject
I bought an xh2 and returned it for the sony a7cii. I’ve been a fuji user for over 8 years and this is my first sony. The small size, full frame and autofocus makes it a great upgrade!
Fujifilm makes everything bigger and bigger. some new len they released that heavier and bigger. I know they have X-E series but lack of many feature which I need.
Well I have also sold all my fuji gear I keep only Godox flash gun. Maybe v100VI in the future..... no .... Sony classic ff camera is coming soon with curved sensor I hope....
I was a Fuji guy for the last ten years but finally switched to Sony A7cii just because of the incredible AF and stunningly sharp lenses. Yes, the Fuji is a little more fun to use but no one looking at a photo cares how much fun the photographer had making it. The Fuji jpgs have incredible color but I only shoot RAW so that's not something I really care about. My 2¢.
Good review. Rented xt5 with 33mm 1.4. Wanted to love it. Didn’t. Went with a7c2. Sticks like glue on my toddler which was most important and the lowlight is damn good too
Sony AF performance is such a good selling point but the Fuji is sooo pretty. Build quality is top notch. I love the the lockable dials at the top, the film simulations, the less expensive lenses. Very tough choice.
you know, i've seen comparisons between fuji and sony. i've seen many people do a bad job in editing their sony pictures which makes me go "oh so it really is better on fuji" but here im looking at the pictures samples you posted of both, no the sony samples are far nicer than the fuji samples in color with your editing. at least that's my subjective opinion
Wow the video footage from the a7c II is impressive, looks like straight from a movie! Great job with that. Silver Argent X-T5 is unbeatable fashion-wise IMO. Also, not trying to be a fanboy but that grain looks quite pleasing from the X-T5's low light video, adds to that "vintage character". G series lenses are very costly, but that is expected from top of the line FF lenses. I honestly don't think I can live without the Film Simulations anymore, but Sony pictures look amazing after passing through post-processing.
That grain is due to the XT5’s base iso for flog 2 at iso 1000. I’m a fan of the way it looks but there’s gotta be a time and a place. I would love for flog-2 base iso to be lower so it won’t introduce that noise/grain into the shot. I prefer to have a cleaner shot and then dirty it up in post to get a same result. But it’s awesome though!
The grain looks good but its not ideal, especially for professional work. Its better to have cleaner footage and add this grain in post because you keep the details. If the grain is already in the camera a percentage of the details is lost and you can't recover. Hence why all professional projects, such as movies, documentaries, etc will prefer to have a good looking raw files video. However, for more personal use, yeah, the grain might be welcome in the raw file.
Look how small the Fujifilm lens mount is compared to the Sony. Fujifilm have no right to make cameras bigger than full frame. You don't even get better tech. 😂 They have BSI, stacked, and 40mp sensors, but not the AF or IBIS quality to support it so who cares? This is exactly why I left Fujifilm this year. They have made almost no improvements since the X-T2 dominated the a7II. 🤦♂️
As much as I love Fuji cameras. And are great for general photography. They are terrible for wildlife photography. Legit trash. Focus hunting for decades on the xt5. My Sony a6400 back up camera blows the xt5 auto focus out of the water. That’s kind of sad.
Hope this helps someone out. I'm a long time Fuji user, but never used the top X-T range, always the 10, 20s. Last year I purchased the X-S10. Loved the IBIS and better AF but i noticed i didn't enjoy taking photos any more. Wanted to upgrade, and well tried the Sony A7IV. Yes. AF was amazing, yes everything they say is pretty much true. The buttons and configuration really suited and made it easy to use the PASM control. But.... I ended up selling it and buying an X-T5. Why? Well for one, i love the build quality and price of Fujifilm XF lenses. So many people moving away and I managed to scoop up mint high end Fuji lenses for sometimes more than 60% off. Like we are talking almost no use, just because people move to Sony etc. Now I found a 24-70 GM ii for sale and it was only 30% off. You can also imagine my horror when one of the YT videos mentioned they use a plastic filter thread. The X-T5 also felt better and more premium in hand than the A7IV. I did the ISO tests, af tests etc and for me the biggest noticable real world difference was the AF. But.... it kind of made it boring as well, it was so simple and it felt like cheating. I'm not a pro. I want photography to be fun for me, Fuji delivers the fun factor, Sony did not. Yes I'll have a few missed shots, yes some will be out of focus, but for my purposes, its actually fine. I may still go back to Sony FF in the future. It will help with sports photos of my kids, but for day to day and holiday snaps, Fuji is perfect for me.
Owned the X-H2 & X-T5. Now using A7Cii. A7Cii better in almost every way. AF, dynamic range, IQ with small compact primes, color retention in bright light.. even .. I dare say… colors. Love the deep reds from the Sony. WTH.. Sony been ‘acquiring’ color tech?? This A7Cii has been nailing shots and colors for weeks now. AF is super clutch. For me.. shutter is basic AF, AF ON is eye tracking, and C1 is lock on and hold tracking. ..some images of my son today few hours before sunset.. hair, face, helmet, hoodie.. all colors nailed w/ standard profile.
Excellent review. It is clear from so many reviews I’ve seen that Sony is king on Autofocus. I’m willing to tolerate Fuji for the all the other benefits Fuji provides. I love the Fuji colors. Use the tool that best suits your needs. I’m open to trying Sony in the near future but since it is just a hobby for me - can’t justify two systems. Lenses are so expensive!
Same. I had few medium priced Sonys previously, but after getting into Fuji, using Sony is like using a computer, not a camera. Sony feels like an engineer tool, Fuji like artist tool. But both can result in excellent results, you just need to use them right. The photographer eventually matters way more than the tool. But those who like Fuji, like it with the shortcomings, its like heart thing that resonates better with Fuji.
Long time Fuji user and I was looking to upgrade to the X-T5... but Fuji's AF remains frustratingly slow and the low light performance is highly lacking. After much back and forth I switched to the Sony a7cii and I have never been happier. Sony's AF is simply amazing and the pictures are sharp every time, and amazing low-light performance to boot. It's also easier editing files with Lightroom and so much dynamic range to play with, something I struggled with using my Fujis. I have since sold all my Fuji gear. Now the hardest part is figuring out which lens to choose as Sony's E-mount system as several different option for each focal length, be it zoom or prime.
These are my exact reasons for listing my x-t5 on eBay and dropping down for the a7cii- auto focus and low-light performance in a compact full frame body are enough for me. That said- I will always have a soft spot in my heart for my x-t5. I doubt I will ever find a better overall shooting experience, and the Fuji skin tones are all they are advertised to be!
I sold all my Fuji gear a few years back and switched to Sony. In general, I'm very happy with the decision, but am disappointed with the A7Cii/R. Same crappy EVF, terrible LCD (should use 4-axis screen on EVERY new camera), and still NO JOYSTICK! I was contemplating picking up an X-T5 instead, but I'm heavily invested in Sony glass at this point so it would be a bit silly. I ended up grabbing a used Q2 and use that for my compact setup. Now that I've gotten a taste of Leica, that's all I want 🤣
I'm a newbie. Which one has more features? And what about the prices of the lenses? Kinda disappointed at the low light/indoor performance of my xt20 with tamron 17-70 even tho I'm shooting at f2.8...
@@janjamesramos247 Sony FF is going to perform much better in low light situations. The ZV-E1 is ~$2k and has the same sensor as the $4k FX3 which is phenomenal in low light. Lenses are all over the map with great options for every budget. The only thing I miss about Fuji is the smaller form factor and I was hoping the new A7Cii was going to have more improvements over the old one (especially at the $2,200 price point!)
im a fuji user even since the og x100 came out, gave it more than a decade until i got the x100V. sold it after a year. moved to sony A7C, then upgraded to 7Cii. best decision
I have the xh2s and for me the keeper rates are around the 80% which is more than good enough for my professional work. I went backwards and forwards over Sony canon and Fuji and there all so close in everyday applications that it really just boils down to colours and Fuji just gets me to where I like to be faster. And in the industry I’m about to enter the look and feel of the images sets me apart from the norm allowing me to stand out from a saturated market place. That’s how I felt and justified Fuji over the rest. I just wise they sorted the back focusing problem it’s been there since the xt1 days but once you learn to work round it the images become more consistent
How do you work around it? In AF-C mode, my approach is to release focus and make the camera re-aquire every few seconds. That seems to help since there can be a tendency to "pulse" if you just try to hold it down and shoot away.
@@matt88169 I've found, and after several trials have discovered that once the battery is "in the red" that the autofocus performance drops significantly. New battery and the AF performance jumps back up. Using Boost Mode also improves AF performance regardless of what boost option your using. Shooting in boost mode with a charged battery gives me nearly the hit rate as I get with the Sony a74. I'm aware the AF on the XH2s with the stacked sensor is better than the XT5/XH2.
@@1883entertainment Thanks for the notes. Typically I swap batteries when in the red - but 90% of the time I shoot with the grip on so a fresh battery is available. In my experience boost mode has not seemed to make a noticeable difference - I'll try using it more going forward to see if that somehow helps (you never know). I also shut off exposure preview, which I think does free up processing power. I've also found that shooting short high speed bursts yields better results than low speed, for some reason. If I'm really motivated, I'll turn on pre-shot ES as well (provided ES distortion shouldn't be a problem based on what I'm shooting).
@@matt88169 I just thought it something to be aware of, due to some trial and error and being able to recreate the "issue" again I'm using the XH2s, so results may be slightly different
Fujifilm's auto focus has become very good after the firmware update. And the option of touch focus tracking has also come in this. Overall deka jae to Fujifilm's color science is best ever.
Good video mate thank you for posting Sony for work Fuji for personal is how I break it down. Pick your model that suit your work flow. For some that’s x100v or xt5 but for some it’s xt1 or older Fuji with more character. And for some anything short of high end Sony they won’t touch because they need that quick autofocus. They’re all so much fun to use.
Thank you for this video. I had the sony a7c mark I and after getting a x100v in my hands i completly switched to fuji. Both systems have there strength and weaknesses. For me Fuji is superior in colors and haptics. I love to have the xh2s in my hands.
I prefer the look and feel of the XT5, and if you want to improve the grip, get the lens mate, thumb grip! The only thing I want from Sony is the auto focus! Otherwise, I think the camera looks ugly. 🖖
@@TonyNomadic found him too but trying to get info from who actually use it…since you have used it, does the classic chrome and negative looks good? What about the skin tones on A7cii without any profiles or sims? Thanks
I like both but really prefer having an aperture ring on the lense. One gets this with the Sony G-master glass but it is very expensive. My other complaint with the Sony is the absence of the joy stick. Vbeyong that im concerned the Fugi will be less functional in low light situations. Im stuck in deciding which one to purchase - still leaning towards xt5 or xh2.
If you are worried about low light, incorporate flash. I’d be doing that whether or not I used APS-C or FF. Both would suck/ degrade in low light situations.
Sony G lenses (not the best confused with GM), like the 20-70 and 16-35 f4 PZ, 40mm 2.5, 50mm 2.8 also have aperture rings. Seems like all recent Sony lenses get aperture rings. Nice features on the lenses too like custom buttons, able to switch to click less aperture, AF/MF switch
There is Sigma I series lenses with great metal build, image quality and aperture ring. They are also reasonably priced, well better prices than new Fuji line as XF 33 f1.4.
I have the x100vi and man, when you shoot portraits, and street, that apsc camera delivers way above its capacity, also it pushes you to take photos, sony a7c2 disappointed me, as a photographer, for video yes its the best.
It seems like a marketing trick from Fuji to try and compare the XT5 with the A7CII, when they clearly know the XT5 will be outclassed. Fuji gives you the illusion here, that the XT5 is a competitor of the A7CII at an incredibly lower price. But don’t be fooled. The competitor of the XT5 is the Sony A6700, which is not only cheaper, but shares so many features with the A7CII, that it too outperforms the XT5. And do not miss, that since the XT5 has 40MP it requires special APS-C lenses, from Fuji, in order to benefit from its picture qualities.
I’ve had both and an a7iv. As a photo only shooter the xt5 screen is the best. Something about the Sony although the AF is the best just left me bored. I feel more like I’m. Creating something with Fuji.
The x100v made me sell my Sony a7c mark I for an XT5 and i have no regrets. 'Autofocus' is great, but as a hobbyist, autofocus doesnt mean much if i leave the camera at home! The sony was so boring to shoot with. The colours made me want to puke. The lenses (i have 5) are heavy and carrying even the small a7c around was a burden. Fujis have soul. Every picture I take is just beautiful straight out of camera. I never ever go into lightroom. I hate lightroom!! How many hours of pictures have i taken to never be shared cause the raws sit in a folder on my computer? The Fuji i bring everywhere with me. The xt5 is actually heavier than the a7c but paired with a 23mm f2, it feels like nothing cause its a balanced camera where as my a7c even with my small lenses felt so heavy and unbalanced and the grip is so short my pinky hurt. Is the Sony a technically better camera? Of course. Will i choose the fuji 100% of the time? Yes. Forever. I have owned/used the a7s a7ii a7iii a7sii, they were all great but i wish i found Fuji so much sooner. I was always scared to go to apsc probably because my NEX5, A6000, A6500 were all meh (i sold them all). Of course i wish the Fuji had auto focus as good as the Sony but the overall package is way better still. (As a hobbyist, if you charge money for your pictures than youll have a different valid perspective) Fuji >
Xt5 is an incredible camera. For anyone considering it rent one and see for yourself. It makes you want to pick it up. The better video options, the fast bursts rates and now flog2 make it a really incredible camera. I have shot portions of a documentary with it along with my xh2s, I have taken the xt5 under water it performed extremely well. Throughout my life I have used MANY cameras s5, z6, a7 series, gfx, most of the fujis and I have to say fuji to me produces the most pleasing image I can compare to cameras costing much much more. The x trans sensors are unique to fuji and are different from your standard bayer pattern. This combined with the in body processing create a truly special image.
I just switched from Fuji to Canon R8 and there is a noticeable difference on every level. Much better low light performance, better DR. I even like colours better but to be honest I played with A7C II and I could get RAW images shine as easily as with Fuji. I have two kids and Sony / Canon AF level is worlds apart, it's not even funny. For basic stuff maybe I could still live with Fuji but kids are really demanding and now almost every photo is in focus. Between X-T5 and A7C II I would take the Sony for two things. One is size - A7C II is much smaller and for travel every gram and cm counts. X-T5 is almost A7IV size. Second as I mentioned is AF. The look, the colours, softer dreamy look of images - all that can be done in post process easily. X-T5 only for those who like dials retro feel and JPEGs in my opinion.
I'm a newbie. Which one has more features? And what about the prices of the lenses? Kinda disappointed at the low light/indoor performance of my xt20 with tamron 17-70 even tho I'm shooting at f2.8...
What did you end up getting? I'm considering the X-T5, X-S20, and a7c II, but the Sony is just so expensive and it's my understanding that going full frame in general means heavier, more expensive lenses too.
Comparison I wanted as I love my XT-5 but having moved from FF Dslr I'm yearning the low light capabilities + less noise....🥺 I guess you can't have it all !
Just a thought about the often mentioned "smaller package" of the Sony A7C ... full frame glas is usually still way heavier than APS-C to achieve the same results, so while the body might be (very lightly) smaller, you might end up with a noticeable more heavy setup in the end, especially once it comes to carry around 2 or 3 lenses.
Between these two cameras only, the one card slot is a tough one to go without. NOTE: I almost wish they never created dual card cameras (I know, I know). Only because it makes you more scared to shoot without a backup. I understand that my opinion on this may appear naive, that’s ok. I would’ve shot weddings on the a6000 if it had two slots. But sold that. Yes, I regret that.
I was on Sony for years. Used the A7RII-A7RIV. I honestly did not enjoy working with their cameras and considering the hype for them and how little I enjoyed editing their files I eventually just started to reinvest in Nikon and Fujifilm. It still makes me laugh how Fuji was able to fit an AF joystick onto a rangefinder styled body dating back to the X-Pro 2 and to this day Sony cannot/will not do it. If I need video AF that badly I'll use my Nikon Z9. I have an XH2 and XH2S and I think I like these cameras more than my last Sony by a lot. Probably never going back to Sony. So long answer short X-T5, though my next camera might be a used GFX100S.
So- will you take all three to Greece including the 100VI? Which one(s)? I’m coming off Nikon as I am in the same boat, need to shrink my footprint and considering both. Also have the 100VI on order since Feb.
I like Fugi in every way except, as of late, there is so many negative reports about the Fugi continuous auto focus that I am very reluctant to buy one.
Also compare to the X-S20 - it is more hybrid and more compact, so I think more similar to the A7c ii. Then there are considerable savings, but for hybrid Raw shooters the Sony is objectively a better product. You haven't compared the IBIS, but I think that is also better. You can use the the old Zeiss lenses for a more vintage look, and the new Sigma/Sony G lenses with aperture ring for a similar experience. That said, I'm sticking to my X-S10 with lighter lenses (35, 18, 27, 50), it's just more fun and blurry
I was using an X-T4 for awhile and was waiting for it's successor to upgrade, and still keep the X-T4 as a 2nd body. If Fujifilm had come out with the X-H2 and the X-T5 into only one body, I wouldn't have switched to Sony. I'm turning 70 soon, I wear glasses and have shaky hands. The Sony AF makes my life so much easier. I intend to use the A7CII for street and travel photography. So far, it does the job quite well. Not only that but it makes me get increasingly lazy. I know how to shoot manually but I must admit that the results coming from the AUTO mode are so good.
4:09 but Sony has film simulations. They are named in a way that nobody will find them :D "Creative Look" and there are 3-4 of them that look suspiciously similar to the Fuji ones. Yes there is no halation/mist effect like on the Fuji but you can add a simple mist filter on the lens and - done. Plus A7CII support adding LUTs in the camera and you can make your own film simulations and import them in the camera for photo and video usage.
I was looking at both, but chose the a7cii as I discovered picture profiles that rival FUJIFILM with there film sims. Plus the better AF, better lens selection, and better all around.
They have these creative looks that noone is talking about. I did a video recently where someone made a classic chrome film recipe for the sony a6700. And putting them side by side on some shots you cant tell. It's mindblowing. But there are some dead giveaways..
I had an A7IV. I got bored with it. It’s just too clinical. It has no soul. It kind of makes it boring. Picked up a Canon r6ii and hated it. So sold that and now I’m on an xt5 and so far I’m in love with it. I kind of wanted the x100vi but I didn’t preorder it so there’s no way I’m getting one until later this year or even longer. So I just got the xt5 instead. I considered the a7cii and cr but those are just compact versions of existing cameras and I wasn’t all too excited about what I got out of the A7IV already. The ibis in the xt5 is unbelievable. You can take handheld lowlight shots at 1 second that are sharp. Plus with the firmware update that fixed the autofocus, it’s super snappy now.
@@Iamtongue I liked both the R6II and the A7IV well enough, and looking back I liked the Sony better, but the images from both of them never really felt unique to me. They both made me feel like I could get the same results from my phone for the most part outside of the zoom I could get with a telephoto. I know they both have much better iq than that but they just never inspired me. I shot an event with the xt5 yesterday and man, I was so impressed with the results. The images just look so unique in comparison. I used a few film recipes and tweaked them lightly in post and that was it. I delivered them at the end of the day and everyone was really impressed. With the Sony and the canon i would always get a thank you for shooting but never any comments on how the photos looked. This time was different, and that made me feel like I could make a name for myself based on a unique look that I’d be able to deliver. The physical nature of the Fuji also made me feel like I was actually doing something rather than just pushing a button too. Like I had more control over the outcome.
I was given the choice and went for the X-T5. The colors, single card slot, the bigger size of lenses and most of all; the lack of a damn joystick to move the focus point around, made me choose Fuji. I could maybe get used to the colors and single card slot, but having to use touch to move the focus around? Never.
Love this video because I can see that you tried to be as objective as possible and that is appreciated as a jufi shooter. People should see an objective picture of both camera to see what is best for them😂👍
Lets be honest, fujifilm is never gonna get their auto focusing up to industry standards. They are this deep into the game with the same issues. It doesn't mean they dont make good cameras, yet they are almost dead last in this category. Qualities are good, yet who wants to miss a shot?
When you use only Fujis this is not a problem because you understand how your equipment works and you learn to deal with this. I don't loose shots with my fujis.
@Carlos-mw5rw what are you shooting lol, no fuji has a great hit rate like canon or Sony these are just facts. Butt if your object or subject is moving, it doesn't matter how intimately you know the camera, you're missing some shots
I agree, i think carlos missed the point. It's about making our lives easier.ANd with technology advancing, it seems like Fuji is just not keeping up with the pack. Sure I can take my clothes down by the river and wash them and hang them dry. But why do that when I can put it in the washer and dryer?@@TheOneAboveAll_
I have the lenses, so I went with Sony. However, I have the A7CR and a full spectrum converted A7C. I do have some veresdenialex recipes in some of the picture profiles for those times I want to have SOOC jpegs.
@@IamtongueI find them to be good. The name I provided can pull up the site. I did not realize how much detail can be programmed in the picture profiles. I mainly like to use the Acros-G and Acros-R recipes for my infrared photography.
OK the XT5 is indeed much prettier and has a much better EVF. THE END! I really would L O V E to know what is the point of these videos and comparisons when the facts are the facts and FF is always better not to mention that technically the Sony is years ahead of anything Fujifilm so far has been able to come, up with. And no, I am not a Sony shooter but only blind people can't clearly see this while keep on insisting that APS-C "is about the same" as anything FF. Is not! And that, stepping up, is exactly why the same reasoning that Fuji films medium format is far and away superior to full frame itself applies. Same thing. So, Fujifilm claims how much better their MG gear is compared to FF, while at the exact same time advertising that they're APS-C is just as good as FF. And people eat this garbage, how hilarious is that? And IQ aside, the supposed advantage physical and economic advantage of APS-C is equally null. Just look at these cameras! Look.. is the XT5 with lens lighter or smaller or cheaper? N O ! What is the point of all of this? Even the original a7C with for example an equivalent 28mm F1.8 lens beats the performance of the XT5 front, left and right with an equivalent (and absurdly overpriced and hyped) XF 18mm F1.4 (that in FF is equal to F2.2 anyway). And not to mention that if you get an original a7C body + lens second hand, it will cost you less than half of what the XT5 + lens costs. When will people wake up and realize the utterly absurd and proposterous pricing of Fujifilm APS-C gear these days? The early digital days of big heavy expensive FF gear versus then the much cheaper smaller and lighter APS-C stuff are LONG FAR AWAY in the past and stopped making any kind of sense years ago. And let's not even talk about people paying above retail these days to get a (same as 1, S, T, F, V) X-100VI and some even $18000 for limited edition. Really? About the price of (3) Full Frame Leica Qs? Honestly honestly honestly......... PS - I have nothing against Fujifilm, have an X-Pro 2 and a few lenses that I much enjoy and honestly could care less that people choose to do with their money and photographic talents. But living in the world of REALITY is an excellent thing! I am appalled at how much mental blindness affects so many that keep on insisting on Fujifilm APS-C gear like it's a religion while Fujifilm is laughing all the way and can't run to the bank or count the money coming in fast enough. Grow up and please insult away because that's surely the only thing left.
@@Iamtongue there are several. But, I like the size, the autofocus, its full frame and small, image quality is excellent, the compact primes. But, for now I don’t have to choose between the two. I can have both. Don’t tell my wife I have the Sony. 😀
You forgot the size of the lenses. Sony lenses are generally larger than the Fujis. You have to go with 3rd party lenses to go small with Sony. But if you want top-quality G Master lenses, then those are larger than Fuji's top-quality glasses.
I'm a Fujifilm shooter but I don't think so. If you compare the Fuji 23/1,4 with the Sony 35/1,8 the Sony is lighter. Same with the 50-140/2,8 to the 70-200/4. The Sony is lighter. Of course if you compare 2,8 with 2,8 Fujifilm is lighter but the depth of field would be different.
@@majororgansno, you have to multiply both focal length and aperture by the crop factor for a proper comparison. It is how the physics of light works and is not a subjective thing. This is why FF cameras generally have about a 1 stop advantage in low light (all else being equal). They simply gather more light on their larger sensor.
Nice summary - similar to a comparisson between Sony and Fuji that I wrote up on Medium. I was turned off by the plastic feel to the XT5 after owning the XT3 and XT4 though. I prefer the full frame image quality but I shoot RAW and not JPEG. I don’t mind the A7Cii EVF after comparing it to my XT30ii (which has the same EVF as a lot of Fuji cameras) but it would have been much nicer if they put the A7IV EVF in it.
@@nivin3 yes as long as you get a new Sony camera the colours are fine. I shoot raw and use RNI film simulations, I can pretty much match Fuji film sims as needed. I’ve read you can do similar things to jpegs but Fuji does offer the more customisable JPEGs recipes if you like to do everything in camera.
Last video before the new year! Stay safe😊 and I’ll see you in 2024!🎉
Awesome video way to keep your word and bring in a … … SONY to finish out the year. Looking forward to more content in the new year.
thanks bro!
Nice. Im a Fuji shooter and bought the a7cii yesterday. Wow the autofocus is crazy. It’s gonna be my travel video/photo camera. While I’ll keep my x100v for the beautiful Fuji colours.
Nice I’m glad you’re enjoying the Sony a7cii!
I found the colors in the A7Cii to be considerably improved over the previous model. Not completely on par with Fuji, but very close - to the point I no longer struggle or miss the Fuji system.
@@007UA16 I agree. They have improved it a lot since my a7ii and a6000 back in the day.
Any updates on your thoughts? I own a fuji xt5, and usually shoot raw. I'm Debating to switch bc the autofocus is still iffy. Love the fuji feel, but wanted to know if you have updates on your opinion about the colours
I'm a bit of a camera wh*re and slept with a bunch of brands until I married Fuji.
I was with Canon first 5dII was my gateway drug and then moved to the first FF MILC from Canon the EOS R, and then had a few affairs with the Sony A7III and then the A7IV and then a few times with the A6400 and it was actually quite good. Paired with some smol lenses, it was the best setup ever and then... Fuji Xt3 came to my life and then we got married.
xt3 with the 27 2.8 was my true love. It wasn't about the size or the performance but he made me feel special... Using the big chunky full frame boys feels like an abusive relationship, my arms are always dead after a day handling them and I feel like I always have to overcompensate and impress because I have them big black full frames and the photos should look better and it is making me sad because sometimes I feel like I am lacking something and that I am not good enough...
But the Fuji X-T3 was not like that. I always feel like my shots look better than the gear that I am using. He made me feel special. We now have 2 kids, XH2, XT2 and a bunch of lenses together.
Haha, sounds like you've had quite the camera love story! But hey, as long as you found your true love with Fuji, that's all that matters.
As an amateur/enthusiast photographer it comes down to a performance for the price tradeoff. And, you have to include the lenses in the equation. When I was first shopping for a camera I looked at all of the choices. Most bodies alone cost more than what I paid for my whole barely used X-T3 kit. And, when I looked at lens prices, the choice became easier. Finally, I wasn't interested in paying for something that was more videocentric. Don't know if I will be getting a new camera any time soon. The X-T3 is more than capable enough for me right now. And, I tried shoot a bit of vide with it using the 18-55 and it did a pretty good job just shooting in Eterna. I still have a lot to learn and the X-T3 seems like a good tool to learn with. Have a great week and a very Happy New Year!!
Thanks Charlie! Happy new year
I bought the Sony a7c mark 1 and purchased a Fujifilm x-e4 trying to find an x100v. I added a Sony a7iv and a Fujifilm x-pro3. I am considering getting the a7cii but hesitant to get rid of the a7c and x-e4. Although I love shooting Fujifilm, I won’t stop shooting Sony. As you mentioned, they both give two fantastic looks and shooting experiences. I am not an xt5 fan. It feels too plasticky. I prefer the feel of the x-pro3 in hand. The xh2 feels great in hand but it’s as big as the a7iv.
I will carry my a7iv with my Tamron 35-150mm f/2-2.8 for portrait shoots and my x-pro3 with the Viltrox 75mm f/1.2. For just edc, x-e4 or x-pro3 with 23mm f/2 or a7c with 40mm f/2.8.
Having two systems is great but it is expensive getting lenses for both.
How’s the 35-150mm? It looks like it’s too heavy!
@@Iamtongue It’s great! It is heavy but it means I don’t have to carry a bunch of prime lenses. It weighs 1165 grams so a little more than the new FE 70-200mm f/2.8 mark II but less then mark i.
On the a7c I added a smallrig grip and it was good. But it definitely feels better on the a7iv. But it is so versatile that it rarely comes off. I know you prefer smaller lenses but I would recommend you try the Tamron 35-150mm on a shoot since the grip on the a7cii is bigger.
I do carry the FE 20mm f/1.8 if I need wide shots or I keep it on my a7c.
I’m a longtime Fuji user who just picked up an a7cmk1. The lowlight performance is dramatically better. Same with DR when raising shadows on a backlit subject
which fujifilm do you had before?
@@ShangleLP xe1 through xe4, xt10, x pro1, xpro2, xt1, xt2, xs10,
thanks for the response ^^@@balboa0621
I bought an xh2 and returned it for the sony a7cii. I’ve been a fuji user for over 8 years and this is my first sony. The small size, full frame and autofocus makes it a great upgrade!
Fujifilm makes everything bigger and bigger. some new len they released that heavier and bigger. I know they have X-E series but lack of many feature which I need.
Good move. I do not understand Fuji apse format at all.... at least when I keep sony a7IV in my hand and not talking a7cII......
Well I have also sold all my fuji gear I keep only Godox flash gun. Maybe v100VI in the future..... no .... Sony classic ff camera is coming soon with curved sensor I hope....
I was a Fuji guy for the last ten years but finally switched to Sony A7cii just because of the incredible AF and stunningly sharp lenses. Yes, the Fuji is a little more fun to use but no one looking at a photo cares how much fun the photographer had making it. The Fuji jpgs have incredible color but I only shoot RAW so that's not something I really care about. My 2¢.
The Sony a7cii looks tempting but I still prefer the film simulations hehe :)
Ya those film simulations are reasons why I’m staying.
Good review. Rented xt5 with 33mm 1.4. Wanted to love it. Didn’t. Went with a7c2. Sticks like glue on my toddler which was most important and the lowlight is damn good too
Sony AF performance is such a good selling point but the Fuji is sooo pretty. Build quality is top notch. I love the the lockable dials at the top, the film simulations, the less expensive lenses. Very tough choice.
EXACTLY!
you know, i've seen comparisons between fuji and sony. i've seen many people do a bad job in editing their sony pictures which makes me go "oh so it really is better on fuji"
but here im looking at the pictures samples you posted of both, no the sony samples are far nicer than the fuji samples in color with your editing. at least that's my subjective opinion
Does the Sony do automatic HDR on-camera like Fuji does?
Thanks
Wow the video footage from the a7c II is impressive, looks like straight from a movie! Great job with that.
Silver Argent X-T5 is unbeatable fashion-wise IMO. Also, not trying to be a fanboy but that grain looks quite pleasing from the X-T5's low light video, adds to that "vintage character".
G series lenses are very costly, but that is expected from top of the line FF lenses.
I honestly don't think I can live without the Film Simulations anymore, but Sony pictures look amazing after passing through post-processing.
That grain is due to the XT5’s base iso for flog 2 at iso 1000. I’m a fan of the way it looks but there’s gotta be a time and a place. I would love for flog-2 base iso to be lower so it won’t introduce that noise/grain into the shot. I prefer to have a cleaner shot and then dirty it up in post to get a same result. But it’s awesome though!
The grain looks good but its not ideal, especially for professional work. Its better to have cleaner footage and add this grain in post because you keep the details. If the grain is already in the camera a percentage of the details is lost and you can't recover. Hence why all professional projects, such as movies, documentaries, etc will prefer to have a good looking raw files video. However, for more personal use, yeah, the grain might be welcome in the raw file.
Look how small the Fujifilm lens mount is compared to the Sony. Fujifilm have no right to make cameras bigger than full frame. You don't even get better tech. 😂
They have BSI, stacked, and 40mp sensors, but not the AF or IBIS quality to support it so who cares? This is exactly why I left Fujifilm this year. They have made almost no improvements since the X-T2 dominated the a7II. 🤦♂️
After years with Nikon and Fuji, I am going for Sony and not looking back...
Nice dude enjoy
you were filming in portugal
Hope you get to try the new kid on the block - Nikon Zf!
fingers crossed
Best between XT5 and A7Ç2 is a Canon R6ii
i heard good things but i don't know if i would ever shoot with canon unless they start opening up their mount to third party lenses.
As much as I love Fuji cameras. And are great for general photography. They are terrible for wildlife photography. Legit trash. Focus hunting for decades on the xt5. My Sony a6400 back up camera blows the xt5 auto focus out of the water. That’s kind of sad.
yup I agree with that statement. But you're going to want an xh2s for wildlife.
This one is PASM 😂
So it’s not spam? 😆
@@Iamtongue yeah from this point onwards just refer to it as spam just to mess with both PASM and PSAM camp
Hope this helps someone out.
I'm a long time Fuji user, but never used the top X-T range, always the 10, 20s.
Last year I purchased the X-S10. Loved the IBIS and better AF but i noticed i didn't enjoy taking photos any more.
Wanted to upgrade, and well tried the Sony A7IV.
Yes. AF was amazing, yes everything they say is pretty much true. The buttons and configuration really suited and made it easy to use the PASM control.
But.... I ended up selling it and buying an X-T5.
Why?
Well for one, i love the build quality and price of Fujifilm XF lenses. So many people moving away and I managed to scoop up mint high end Fuji lenses for sometimes more than 60% off. Like we are talking almost no use, just because people move to Sony etc.
Now I found a 24-70 GM ii for sale and it was only 30% off. You can also imagine my horror when one of the YT videos mentioned they use a plastic filter thread.
The X-T5 also felt better and more premium in hand than the A7IV.
I did the ISO tests, af tests etc and for me the biggest noticable real world difference was the AF. But.... it kind of made it boring as well, it was so simple and it felt like cheating.
I'm not a pro. I want photography to be fun for me, Fuji delivers the fun factor, Sony did not.
Yes I'll have a few missed shots, yes some will be out of focus, but for my purposes, its actually fine.
I may still go back to Sony FF in the future. It will help with sports photos of my kids, but for day to day and holiday snaps, Fuji is perfect for me.
Thanks for this!
Owned the X-H2 & X-T5. Now using A7Cii. A7Cii better in almost every way. AF, dynamic range, IQ with small compact primes, color retention in bright light.. even .. I dare say… colors. Love the deep reds from the Sony. WTH.. Sony been ‘acquiring’ color tech?? This A7Cii has been nailing shots and colors for weeks now. AF is super clutch. For me.. shutter is basic AF, AF ON is eye tracking, and C1 is lock on and hold tracking. ..some images of my son today few hours before sunset.. hair, face, helmet, hoodie.. all colors nailed w/ standard profile.
Hey! Can you please tell me which camera takes more sharp pictures? a7cii or xt5? in which camera I can zoom and still see more clarity?
@@chinuonchaitanya8340 so many variables. Both can take very sharp images.
Excellent review. It is clear from so many reviews I’ve seen that Sony is king on Autofocus. I’m willing to tolerate Fuji for the all the other benefits Fuji provides. I love the Fuji colors. Use the tool that best suits your needs. I’m open to trying Sony in the near future but since it is just a hobby for me - can’t justify two systems. Lenses are so expensive!
Thanks Jackie, and like you I will also tolerate certain quirks from Fujifilm because I love their colors.
Same. I had few medium priced Sonys previously, but after getting into Fuji, using Sony is like using a computer, not a camera. Sony feels like an engineer tool, Fuji like artist tool. But both can result in excellent results, you just need to use them right. The photographer eventually matters way more than the tool. But those who like Fuji, like it with the shortcomings, its like heart thing that resonates better with Fuji.
@@samuraidoggy agree 100%
Long time Fuji user and I was looking to upgrade to the X-T5... but Fuji's AF remains frustratingly slow and the low light performance is highly lacking. After much back and forth I switched to the Sony a7cii and I have never been happier. Sony's AF is simply amazing and the pictures are sharp every time, and amazing low-light performance to boot. It's also easier editing files with Lightroom and so much dynamic range to play with, something I struggled with using my Fujis. I have since sold all my Fuji gear. Now the hardest part is figuring out which lens to choose as Sony's E-mount system as several different option for each focal length, be it zoom or prime.
These are my exact reasons for listing my x-t5 on eBay and dropping down for the a7cii- auto focus and low-light performance in a compact full frame body are enough for me. That said- I will always have a soft spot in my heart for my x-t5. I doubt I will ever find a better overall shooting experience, and the Fuji skin tones are all they are advertised to be!
I sold all my Fuji gear a few years back and switched to Sony. In general, I'm very happy with the decision, but am disappointed with the A7Cii/R. Same crappy EVF, terrible LCD (should use 4-axis screen on EVERY new camera), and still NO JOYSTICK! I was contemplating picking up an X-T5 instead, but I'm heavily invested in Sony glass at this point so it would be a bit silly. I ended up grabbing a used Q2 and use that for my compact setup. Now that I've gotten a taste of Leica, that's all I want 🤣
I'm a newbie. Which one has more features? And what about the prices of the lenses? Kinda disappointed at the low light/indoor performance of my xt20 with tamron 17-70 even tho I'm shooting at f2.8...
@@janjamesramos247 Sony FF is going to perform much better in low light situations. The ZV-E1 is ~$2k and has the same sensor as the $4k FX3 which is phenomenal in low light. Lenses are all over the map with great options for every budget. The only thing I miss about Fuji is the smaller form factor and I was hoping the new A7Cii was going to have more improvements over the old one (especially at the $2,200 price point!)
If the A7CII only had a better evf, which one would you drop first?
@@RandumbTech thanks
im a fuji user even since the og x100 came out,
gave it more than a decade until i got the x100V. sold it after a year.
moved to sony A7C, then upgraded to 7Cii. best decision
I have the xh2s and for me the keeper rates are around the 80% which is more than good enough for my professional work. I went backwards and forwards over Sony canon and Fuji and there all so close in everyday applications that it really just boils down to colours and Fuji just gets me to where I like to be faster. And in the industry I’m about to enter the look and feel of the images sets me apart from the norm allowing me to stand out from a saturated market place. That’s how I felt and justified Fuji over the rest. I just wise they sorted the back focusing problem it’s been there since the xt1 days but once you learn to work round it the images become more consistent
that back focusing 😮💨😤
How do you work around it? In AF-C mode, my approach is to release focus and make the camera re-aquire every few seconds. That seems to help since there can be a tendency to "pulse" if you just try to hold it down and shoot away.
@@matt88169 I've found, and after several trials have discovered that once the battery is "in the red" that the autofocus performance drops significantly. New battery and the AF performance jumps back up. Using Boost Mode also improves AF performance regardless of what boost option your using. Shooting in boost mode with a charged battery gives me nearly the hit rate as I get with the Sony a74. I'm aware the AF on the XH2s with the stacked sensor is better than the XT5/XH2.
@@1883entertainment Thanks for the notes. Typically I swap batteries when in the red - but 90% of the time I shoot with the grip on so a fresh battery is available. In my experience boost mode has not seemed to make a noticeable difference - I'll try using it more going forward to see if that somehow helps (you never know). I also shut off exposure preview, which I think does free up processing power. I've also found that shooting short high speed bursts yields better results than low speed, for some reason. If I'm really motivated, I'll turn on pre-shot ES as well (provided ES distortion shouldn't be a problem based on what I'm shooting).
@@matt88169 I just thought it something to be aware of, due to some trial and error and being able to recreate the "issue" again I'm using the XH2s, so results may be slightly different
Fujifilm's auto focus has become very good after the firmware update. And the option of touch focus tracking has also come in this. Overall deka jae to Fujifilm's color science is best ever.
thats a lie, the af is still shit.
Good video mate thank you for posting
Sony for work Fuji for personal is how I break it down. Pick your model that suit your work flow. For some that’s x100v or xt5 but for some it’s xt1 or older Fuji with more character. And for some anything short of high end Sony they won’t touch because they need that quick autofocus. They’re all so much fun to use.
Totally agree
I’m really loving these “Which One?” Videos! Thanks for the content :)
Glad you like them!
Great comparison! Love the Fuji, it has more character :)
Yes it does!
Thank you for this video. I had the sony a7c mark I and after getting a x100v in my hands i completly switched to fuji.
Both systems have there strength and weaknesses. For me Fuji is superior in colors and haptics. I love to have the xh2s in my hands.
Hands down fuji colors are the best
I prefer the look and feel of the XT5, and if you want to improve the grip, get the lens mate, thumb grip!
The only thing I want from Sony is the auto focus! Otherwise, I think the camera looks ugly. 🖖
GAS victim here too. We APS-C users are always with the FF doubt around but Fuji colors and dials are simply too good.
it's just TOO GOOD
What's the point. All you 'reviewers' do the same damn thing. We came here for your opinion, and you don't give one!
okay go make a youtube video and share your opinion big boy
Putting simulations into the Sony picture profiles is a game changer for me.
How? And are they same as Fuji tones?
@@nivin3 found a guy on YT that created picture profiles for Sony. Comparable
@@TonyNomadic found him too but trying to get info from who actually use it…since you have used it, does the classic chrome and negative looks good? What about the skin tones on A7cii without any profiles or sims? Thanks
@@TonyNomadic Whats his @ / do you have a link?
@@_zed veres deni Alex
I like both but really prefer having an aperture ring on the lense. One gets this with the Sony G-master glass but it is very expensive. My other complaint with the Sony is the absence of the joy stick. Vbeyong that im concerned the Fugi will be less functional in low light situations. Im stuck in deciding which one to purchase - still leaning towards xt5 or xh2.
If you are worried about low light, incorporate flash. I’d be doing that whether or not I used APS-C or FF. Both would suck/ degrade in low light situations.
Sony G lenses (not the best confused with GM), like the 20-70 and 16-35 f4 PZ, 40mm 2.5, 50mm 2.8 also have aperture rings. Seems like all recent Sony lenses get aperture rings. Nice features on the lenses too like custom buttons, able to switch to click less aperture, AF/MF switch
There is Sigma I series lenses with great metal build, image quality and aperture ring. They are also reasonably priced, well better prices than new Fuji line as XF 33 f1.4.
I have the x100vi and man, when you shoot portraits, and street, that apsc camera delivers way above its capacity, also it pushes you to take photos, sony a7c2 disappointed me, as a photographer, for video yes its the best.
You have to find the right lens to pair with the a7cii to make it somewhat enjoyable haha
It seems like a marketing trick from Fuji to try and compare the XT5 with the A7CII, when they clearly know the XT5 will be outclassed.
Fuji gives you the illusion here, that the XT5 is a competitor of the A7CII at an incredibly lower price. But don’t be fooled.
The competitor of the XT5 is the Sony A6700, which is not only cheaper, but shares so many features with the A7CII, that it too outperforms the XT5.
And do not miss, that since the XT5 has 40MP it requires special APS-C lenses, from Fuji, in order to benefit from its picture qualities.
I agree 👍
I’ve had both and an a7iv. As a photo only shooter the xt5 screen is the best. Something about the Sony although the AF is the best just left me bored. I feel more like I’m. Creating something with Fuji.
Fuji users who often shoot with sony often say sony cameras are souless... ahah
The x100v made me sell my Sony a7c mark I for an XT5 and i have no regrets. 'Autofocus' is great, but as a hobbyist, autofocus doesnt mean much if i leave the camera at home! The sony was so boring to shoot with. The colours made me want to puke. The lenses (i have 5) are heavy and carrying even the small a7c around was a burden.
Fujis have soul. Every picture I take is just beautiful straight out of camera. I never ever go into lightroom. I hate lightroom!! How many hours of pictures have i taken to never be shared cause the raws sit in a folder on my computer?
The Fuji i bring everywhere with me. The xt5 is actually heavier than the a7c but paired with a 23mm f2, it feels like nothing cause its a balanced camera where as my a7c even with my small lenses felt so heavy and unbalanced and the grip is so short my pinky hurt.
Is the Sony a technically better camera? Of course.
Will i choose the fuji 100% of the time? Yes. Forever.
I have owned/used the a7s a7ii a7iii a7sii, they were all great but i wish i found Fuji so much sooner. I was always scared to go to apsc probably because my NEX5, A6000, A6500 were all meh (i sold them all). Of course i wish the Fuji had auto focus as good as the Sony but the overall package is way better still. (As a hobbyist, if you charge money for your pictures than youll have a different valid perspective)
Fuji >
Great points you made 😀
Xt5 is an incredible camera. For anyone considering it rent one and see for yourself. It makes you want to pick it up. The better video options, the fast bursts rates and now flog2 make it a really incredible camera. I have shot portions of a documentary with it along with my xh2s, I have taken the xt5 under water it performed extremely well. Throughout my life I have used MANY cameras s5, z6, a7 series, gfx, most of the fujis and I have to say fuji to me produces the most pleasing image I can compare to cameras costing much much more. The x trans sensors are unique to fuji and are different from your standard bayer pattern. This combined with the in body processing create a truly special image.
Agree. I have a Sony A7RV and that camera is great but I find I tend to use the X-T5 more for my everyday.
I just switched from Fuji to Canon R8 and there is a noticeable difference on every level. Much better low light performance, better DR. I even like colours better but to be honest I played with A7C II and I could get RAW images shine as easily as with Fuji. I have two kids and Sony / Canon AF level is worlds apart, it's not even funny. For basic stuff maybe I could still live with Fuji but kids are really demanding and now almost every photo is in focus. Between X-T5 and A7C II I would take the Sony for two things. One is size - A7C II is much smaller and for travel every gram and cm counts. X-T5 is almost A7IV size. Second as I mentioned is AF. The look, the colours, softer dreamy look of images - all that can be done in post process easily. X-T5 only for those who like dials retro feel and JPEGs in my opinion.
totally agree
This is the exact decision I’m trying to make right now!
I'm a newbie. Which one has more features? And what about the prices of the lenses? Kinda disappointed at the low light/indoor performance of my xt20 with tamron 17-70 even tho I'm shooting at f2.8...
What did you end up getting? I'm considering the X-T5, X-S20, and a7c II, but the Sony is just so expensive and it's my understanding that going full frame in general means heavier, more expensive lenses too.
I ended up getting the Fujifilm X-T5 and Fujifilm 16-55mm f2.8 lens and have 0 regrets
@@noahkeepsrecordingAny problems with AF performance?
Heyy! Is photography just a hobby for you or do you planing on turning it into a job? And also did you have issues with the AF?
I'll say this if i would check out another camera it would be a Sony due to budget. Thanks for the video
thank you :D
Comparison I wanted as I love my XT-5 but having moved from FF Dslr I'm yearning the low light capabilities + less noise....🥺 I guess you can't have it all !
You honestly can’t and I think they know that! Haha
Would love to see you compare this to an iPhone 15 raw and log
Just a thought about the often mentioned "smaller package" of the Sony A7C ... full frame glas is usually still way heavier than APS-C to achieve the same results, so while the body might be (very lightly) smaller, you might end up with a noticeable more heavy setup in the end, especially once it comes to carry around 2 or 3 lenses.
I have both of these! Love my Fuji for personal and creative work and the Sony is just a workhorse
It really is!
Between these two cameras only, the one card slot is a tough one to go without. NOTE: I almost wish they never created dual card cameras (I know, I know). Only because it makes you more scared to shoot without a backup. I understand that my opinion on this may appear naive, that’s ok. I would’ve shot weddings on the a6000 if it had two slots. But sold that. Yes, I regret that.
Thanks for this video! I am thinking of replacing the xt5 with a 7cii.
I really like the fuji, so I think there will be a 100v next to the sony.
good choices!
I exclusively shoot in manual with focus peaking on my X-T5. Most of my images are unusable in AF.
Who clicks Sharper photos?
I am confused best camera to buy under 1500 dollar
Are there sd card with two physical memory chips on it so you can still have redundancy.
Sony a7cii = better dynamic range autofocus and color depth
I’ve tested out my buddys sony a7c and I wasn’t a fan of their evf. My xt3 evf is still better 😂
I was on Sony for years. Used the A7RII-A7RIV. I honestly did not enjoy working with their cameras and considering the hype for them and how little I enjoyed editing their files I eventually just started to reinvest in Nikon and Fujifilm. It still makes me laugh how Fuji was able to fit an AF joystick onto a rangefinder styled body dating back to the X-Pro 2 and to this day Sony cannot/will not do it. If I need video AF that badly I'll use my Nikon Z9. I have an XH2 and XH2S and I think I like these cameras more than my last Sony by a lot. Probably never going back to Sony. So long answer short X-T5, though my next camera might be a used GFX100S.
No you are not
So- will you take all three to Greece including the 100VI? Which one(s)? I’m coming off Nikon as I am in the same boat, need to shrink my footprint and considering both. Also have the 100VI on order since Feb.
I'm going to take the x100vi and my XT5 for sure.
I like Fugi in every way except, as of late, there is so many negative reports about the Fugi continuous auto focus that I am very reluctant to buy one.
They have another event happening this month. So I am hoping that they are fixing teh autofocusing issues reported on youtube.
Also compare to the X-S20 - it is more hybrid and more compact, so I think more similar to the A7c ii. Then there are considerable savings, but for hybrid Raw shooters the Sony is objectively a better product. You haven't compared the IBIS, but I think that is also better. You can use the the old Zeiss lenses for a more vintage look, and the new Sigma/Sony G lenses with aperture ring for a similar experience. That said, I'm sticking to my X-S10 with lighter lenses (35, 18, 27, 50), it's just more fun and blurry
that's teh spirit!
I was using an X-T4 for awhile and was waiting for it's successor to upgrade, and still keep the X-T4 as a 2nd body. If Fujifilm had come out with the X-H2 and the X-T5 into only one body, I wouldn't have switched to Sony. I'm turning 70 soon, I wear glasses and have shaky hands. The Sony AF makes my life so much easier. I intend to use the A7CII for street and travel photography. So far, it does the job quite well. Not only that but it makes me get increasingly lazy. I know how to shoot manually but I must admit that the results coming from the AUTO mode are so good.
That's a very good reason to get a sony. thanks for sharing your perspective!
4:09 but Sony has film simulations. They are named in a way that nobody will find them :D "Creative Look" and there are 3-4 of them that look suspiciously similar to the Fuji ones. Yes there is no halation/mist effect like on the Fuji but you can add a simple mist filter on the lens and - done.
Plus A7CII support adding LUTs in the camera and you can make your own film simulations and import them in the camera for photo and video usage.
I've heard about it. Any free website you can reccomend that does sony recipes?
there is one dude that makes videos about the "sony film simuluations" just google for it. Its really just that one dude xD @@Iamtongue
You need to take the lenses into your considerations as well. It's not just the size of the camera body...
oh yes
When you talk about the camera size, you should mention the size and weight of the lenses as well
You got it. Next time
XT5 of course is much better. Photographers need the feeling of the real picture and fujifilm cameras gets it.!!
I was looking at both, but chose the a7cii as I discovered picture profiles that rival FUJIFILM with there film sims. Plus the better AF, better lens selection, and better all around.
Really the picture profile rival Fuji? I’m currently really fickle between xt5 and a7cii.
They have these creative looks that noone is talking about. I did a video recently where someone made a classic chrome film recipe for the sony a6700. And putting them side by side on some shots you cant tell. It's mindblowing. But there are some dead giveaways..
I had an A7IV. I got bored with it. It’s just too clinical. It has no soul. It kind of makes it boring. Picked up a Canon r6ii and hated it. So sold that and now I’m on an xt5 and so far I’m in love with it. I kind of wanted the x100vi but I didn’t preorder it so there’s no way I’m getting one until later this year or even longer. So I just got the xt5 instead. I considered the a7cii and cr but those are just compact versions of existing cameras and I wasn’t all too excited about what I got out of the A7IV already. The ibis in the xt5 is unbelievable. You can take handheld lowlight shots at 1 second that are sharp. Plus with the firmware update that fixed the autofocus, it’s super snappy now.
Damn you moved camera systems alot eh, I thought the canon would at least be better than sony when it comes to Image.. WHat made you get rid of it?
@@Iamtongue I liked both the R6II and the A7IV well enough, and looking back I liked the Sony better, but the images from both of them never really felt unique to me. They both made me feel like I could get the same results from my phone for the most part outside of the zoom I could get with a telephoto. I know they both have much better iq than that but they just never inspired me. I shot an event with the xt5 yesterday and man, I was so impressed with the results. The images just look so unique in comparison. I used a few film recipes and tweaked them lightly in post and that was it. I delivered them at the end of the day and everyone was really impressed. With the Sony and the canon i would always get a thank you for shooting but never any comments on how the photos looked. This time was different, and that made me feel like I could make a name for myself based on a unique look that I’d be able to deliver. The physical nature of the Fuji also made me feel like I was actually doing something rather than just pushing a button too. Like I had more control over the outcome.
Full framme 36x24 vs Crop 24x16, win for full frame.
boom
The camera to get is the Fuji X-H2s
gfx100ii
@@Iamtongue Even better!
hhahah@@DiscoverSRQ
I was given the choice and went for the X-T5. The colors, single card slot, the bigger size of lenses and most of all; the lack of a damn joystick to move the focus point around, made me choose Fuji. I could maybe get used to the colors and single card slot, but having to use touch to move the focus around? Never.
Good point
Hello, you can use the cross button to move the focus point at the Sony.
Just stick to fuji dont try make out sony is better😂😂😂😂 behave...
okay i will.
Did you use the boost mode on the xt5? I read quite often that you must not use the eco mode because this affects autofocus performance.
I don't it's normal. But i'm going to do some testing now. I didn't know that it would affect AF.
Any problem about the max 1/4000 shutter speed from the a7cii?
Ya i mentioned it in my recent stand alone a7cii review that I dont like it. I wish it was faster lol.
Love this video because I can see that you tried to be as objective as possible and that is appreciated as a jufi shooter. People should see an objective picture of both camera to see what is best for them😂👍
i try to be objective as i can!
Lets be honest, fujifilm is never gonna get their auto focusing up to industry standards. They are this deep into the game with the same issues. It doesn't mean they dont make good cameras, yet they are almost dead last in this category. Qualities are good, yet who wants to miss a shot?
that's teh spirit! I do not want to miss a shot after using a sony that's for sure
When you use only Fujis this is not a problem because you understand how your equipment works and you learn to deal with this. I don't loose shots with my fujis.
And xh2s its better than xt5 in focus.
@Carlos-mw5rw what are you shooting lol, no fuji has a great hit rate like canon or Sony these are just facts. Butt if your object or subject is moving, it doesn't matter how intimately you know the camera, you're missing some shots
I agree, i think carlos missed the point. It's about making our lives easier.ANd with technology advancing, it seems like Fuji is just not keeping up with the pack. Sure I can take my clothes down by the river and wash them and hang them dry. But why do that when I can put it in the washer and dryer?@@TheOneAboveAll_
I have the lenses, so I went with Sony. However, I have the A7CR and a full spectrum converted A7C. I do have some veresdenialex recipes in some of the picture profiles for those times I want to have SOOC jpegs.
Never heard of recipes for sony are they any good?
@@IamtongueI find them to be good. The name I provided can pull up the site. I did not realize how much detail can be programmed in the picture profiles. I mainly like to use the Acros-G and Acros-R recipes for my infrared photography.
XT-5 is a part of my body :)
OK the XT5 is indeed much prettier and has a much better EVF. THE END! I really would L O V E to know what is the point of these videos and comparisons when the facts are the facts and FF is always better not to mention that technically the Sony is years ahead of anything Fujifilm so far has been able to come, up with. And no, I am not a Sony shooter but only blind people can't clearly see this while keep on insisting that APS-C "is about the same" as anything FF. Is not! And that, stepping up, is exactly why the same reasoning that Fuji films medium format is far and away superior to full frame itself applies. Same thing. So, Fujifilm claims how much better their MG gear is compared to FF, while at the exact same time advertising that they're APS-C is just as good as FF. And people eat this garbage, how hilarious is that? And IQ aside, the supposed advantage physical and economic advantage of APS-C is equally null. Just look at these cameras! Look.. is the XT5 with lens lighter or smaller or cheaper? N O ! What is the point of all of this? Even the original a7C with for example an equivalent 28mm F1.8 lens beats the performance of the XT5 front, left and right with an equivalent (and absurdly overpriced and hyped) XF 18mm F1.4 (that in FF is equal to F2.2 anyway). And not to mention that if you get an original a7C body + lens second hand, it will cost you less than half of what the XT5 + lens costs. When will people wake up and realize the utterly absurd and proposterous pricing of Fujifilm APS-C gear these days? The early digital days of big heavy expensive FF gear versus then the much cheaper smaller and lighter APS-C stuff are LONG FAR AWAY in the past and stopped making any kind of sense years ago. And let's not even talk about people paying above retail these days to get a (same as 1, S, T, F, V) X-100VI and some even $18000 for limited edition. Really? About the price of (3) Full Frame Leica Qs? Honestly honestly honestly.........
PS - I have nothing against Fujifilm, have an X-Pro 2 and a few lenses that I much enjoy and honestly could care less that people choose to do with their money and photographic talents. But living in the world of REALITY is an excellent thing! I am appalled at how much mental blindness affects so many that keep on insisting on Fujifilm APS-C gear like it's a religion while Fujifilm is laughing all the way and can't run to the bank or count the money coming in fast enough. Grow up and please insult away because that's surely the only thing left.
For content.
I like them both. If I could only have one. I’d choose the Sony.
nice! what is your reasoning?
@@Iamtongue there are several. But, I like the size, the autofocus, its full frame and small, image quality is excellent, the compact primes. But, for now I don’t have to choose between the two. I can have both. Don’t tell my wife I have the Sony. 😀
compare xt5 with Nikon zf
Okay
4:55 truth.
people who have two system will understand xD lmao
How’s the weather resistant sealing for both cameras?
I haven't tried, I usually put my camera away once it rains.
I go for Sony A7CR....
how are you liking it?
I am looking at my xt5 now.
hahaha
He said Sony !! 😂
hahah
You forgot the size of the lenses. Sony lenses are generally larger than the Fujis. You have to go with 3rd party lenses to go small with Sony. But if you want top-quality G Master lenses, then those are larger than Fuji's top-quality glasses.
Yes you are right!
I'm a Fujifilm shooter but I don't think so. If you compare the Fuji 23/1,4 with the Sony 35/1,8 the Sony is lighter.
Same with the 50-140/2,8 to the 70-200/4. The Sony is lighter.
Of course if you compare 2,8 with 2,8 Fujifilm is lighter but the depth of field would be different.
@@Schwermetall in terms of evaluating apsc to ff glass I think exposure > bokeh. That 2.8 is huge.
@@majororgansno, you have to multiply both focal length and aperture by the crop factor for a proper comparison. It is how the physics of light works and is not a subjective thing.
This is why FF cameras generally have about a 1 stop advantage in low light (all else being equal). They simply gather more light on their larger sensor.
@@Schwermetall it’s already 2024 and you still compare equivalency? 🤦♂️
Great Video!
Thanks!
Fuji
Fuji 💪
Full frame. The end
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Nice summary - similar to a comparisson between Sony and Fuji that I wrote up on Medium. I was turned off by the plastic feel to the XT5 after owning the XT3 and XT4 though. I prefer the full frame image quality but I shoot RAW and not JPEG. I don’t mind the A7Cii EVF after comparing it to my XT30ii (which has the same EVF as a lot of Fuji cameras) but it would have been much nicer if they put the A7IV EVF in it.
Are you OK with Sony colors compared to Fuji jpegs?
@@nivin3 yes as long as you get a new Sony camera the colours are fine. I shoot raw and use RNI film simulations, I can pretty much match Fuji film sims as needed. I’ve read you can do similar things to jpegs but Fuji does offer the more customisable JPEGs recipes if you like to do everything in camera.