Thank you so much! I hesitate to try him as a DPS, because he doesn't have any good synergies going on there. Then as a support you just cut a little of the healing out of this build (or just don't rely on it) and he is a superb support for a Sharp DPS.
hey man i'm a new subscriber to the channel. just recently got into AtO earlier this week and your guides have been super helpful. keep up the good work and thank you!
Just have to say that I picked the game up for my steam deck and you have been my number one go to for breaking down play patterns and understanding the game in general. Thanks so much for your videos.
That makes me so happy to hear, thank you! Be sure to let me know if there are any topics or questions I need to cover. Video requests are my favorite ones to make.
Your guides are fantastic. One minor feedback. Do perks before starting deck. Since how the game works you have to assign perks before you enter main town. Having Perks as first part of video makes sense. I always have to skip around your vids watching perks first with slider etc =)
Just a heads up (colorblind) blue upgrade of Chant of Accuracy is now only self. I love the content and have been binge watching over the last few days.
Just wanted to say I have been loving your videos. Watching these has helped me learn so much. Idk if you've mentioned this in one of your videos but just curious if you have a favorite hero or team comp?
Thank you so much! My most comfortable team is Magnus/corn/ottis/regi because that's what I first pushed m16 as. Most enjoyable team? Self-burn Cornelius pre-amputation (can't really call it a nerf). There is something VERY satisfying about passing the turn to the enemy and them all popping into ashes as they each take their turn. The closest thing we have to that now is a Wilbur Spark team. Both of those comps run your choice of tank+heals with an Eve support.
Gustav! Been looking forward to this one - this, Heiner, and Grukli are probably my three most-wanted guides out of who's left. So you mention the deck example here being sort of an all-purpose, and cutting what doesn't make sense for your particular team comp. What in particular would you be looking to fill those gaps with, where you cut cards? Deflects for more cantripping? More vanishing Chant of Accuracy?
Early game you can accept filler of just keeping the Shivs. Ideally it would be more deflects. You really only want to run about 3-4 Chants of Accuracy just because you can only play so many in a turn, and only really want to be spending time on them on turn 1. Turn 2 you want to be focused on team survival. Eventually those gaps are filled in with talent cards and the big songs mentioned in Act 4.
Honestly you have improved a lot. The videos are pretty good now and without many large flaws other than duration but honestly that is inescapable with your style. Do you play any of the other game modes other than the standard mode? Dont think you have actually posted anything on either weekly challenge or obelisk so was curious because they are vastly different in terms of thought process
I play Obelisk mode occasionally. I enjoy it because it's easier and you level up faster. You also get way better items. :) I dislike it because it's easier, haha. I plan to eventually post some Obelisk Mode content; just so much I want to cover.
There is a 3rd Chant hiding in the 1-cost area, and a 4th one hiding as a Scavenge. I will eventually cut the Scavenge in Favor of Encore once I get it. My goal is to have around 4 casts of Chant available. I also start to worry less about the Chants in this run as the game progresses, because Bree is dishing out a lot of it as well.
Hey there, love your videos, extremely helpful. I was wondering, now that blue chant of accuracy costs mana, is there anything you'd change particularly in the builds?
I would consider picking the energy rebate lvl 3 instead of the +1 sharp, especially if I can pickup a corrupted weapon on gustav that gives +1 sharp. Those are a lot easier to get now.
just ran gustav on a sharp nezglekt build. it's definitely not as strong as a regular sharp build, especially since it comes online during act 2, but it's still really fun at least haha
Yes, they nerfed it shortly after my showcase video on it. You will now just use the white one. It costs more energy but you can still manage to play most of them.
Yes, the goal is to get the sharp on your dps still. Energy budget will just be tighter. So likely you will want to use 0 cost setups until you have an adrenaline
Yes, all the deck building and strat stays the same, you just end up having to decide between healing and sharp more often. If anything I would go one less vigilance, since that is one of the biggest energy drains. Then ofc picking up the song rebate talent if you need to be both a sharp machine and healer one turns 1-2 (I still go +sharp talent most the time).
I just did a run with Gustav as the DPS on madness 5. I got lucky with a corrupted card that could give me stanza II so from then on it was pretty smooth sailing. (Except for the Faeborg fight cuz Gustav got frozen and lost all of his resources lol...)
If we are talking about the stanza on turn one perk, Gustav already has that in his passive. If we talking about other ones, they are/were weak enough that I can't even recall what they do.
has this been changed? i just started playing the games and have 30 hours on it and i love playing sharp build with andrin i wonder if this is still viable or it has been nerfed/changed
It has been nerfed shortly after my video... However, it's still exactly how I play Gustav/Andrin support. The notable changes are that the 'hero' sharp costs 1 instead of 0, and his free healing talent was lowered significantly. This means you have to be more picky about where you spend your energy, and maybe run the 0 cost chant of initiative for a bit. Key cards are: Trace (innate target hero). 2 vigilance (innate draw). 2 chant of initiative (cheapest versions you need). Setup (0 cost for Gustav, 1 cost for Andrin or if you van afford it. Deflect (draw). Optional: Song of celerity ( I think thats the name, innate fast to all) The all enemies slow song. Preferred healing cards.
Exactly, before those two were added.to the game, it was simply used as a way to preview enemy cards. Now they added some damage and healing for those two characters, but it's still fairly mild.
@@deckertech-aaron so what would you recommend using over vigilance when running gustav? Im currently using gustav, grukli, heiner and reginald. Do think I need to change comp for more damage though
Vigilance is there for the card draw and innate, not for the sight. Use it paired with trace to dig through your deck better. Vigilance will also clear a stack of buffer for enemies. Grukli should be plenty of damage on his own if given resources: sharp, bless, inspire, energize.
Not sure it's a bug or something, sometimes I play powerslave and it changed stanza I to II for appearantly no reason. That does open up some options in turn 1 tho.
@@deckertech-aaron Oops, I actually figured out what causing my confusion. I said that I didn't have a single purple, I meant purple *card*, but I forgot about I have a purple singing sword. I always ignore the gain 1 stanza part on Gustav because of his starting talent. My bad.
@@deckertech-aaron Yeah, being able to turn 1 song of conquer/evasion or never-ending story is quite fun. Also, thanks for the guilds mate! I might never discover Magenus on my own lol
Once your team hits level 3 he does. That's definitely the concern at higher difficulty though, getting to level three. Act 1-2 are currently the hardest with how the game scaling works out. At least that's my experience.
Any non-frog bard will need a very consistent deck to ensure getting Stanza 1 on turn 1. (They plan on removing the perk for it soon). Other than that is translates fairly well. Gustav starts with some good Dispel songs and the Chants of Accuracy though.
Normal trace is perfectly fine. Sorry that I was unclear about that. I often run the self trace for speed of gameplay (dont have to target), then switch it at Archon to target hero.
Melodic Rhythm is now 5% health recovery with +1 heal/regen. Blue Chant of Accuracy is now self; yellow is anyone but costs 1 and does not burn. Not saying this is a build deal breaker but it does Gustav no favors. To compensate I lean towards going with Fanfare. You allude to doing this anyway. I'm not sure if that's enough. I tend play with a friend and we use balanced groups - not setting up one character to kill everything. Love your content. It's relevant, thoughtful, so thank you for it.
You make good content
Thank you! This helps so much. I will do my best to keep improving the content as we go.
Thanks for all your AtO content! Greatly appreciated
Thank you! This is a big help.
thank you for the content :)
Thank you so much! This means a lot to me.
I look forward to seeing these every time they come out. They always give me great ideas on what to try etc, and I appreciate that!
Thank you for your guide. How is he as a dps or a regular support?
Thank you so much! I hesitate to try him as a DPS, because he doesn't have any good synergies going on there. Then as a support you just cut a little of the healing out of this build (or just don't rely on it) and he is a superb support for a Sharp DPS.
YES! Here it is! As much as I love all healers in this game, gustav is my favorite one.
You don't disappoint Decker
Your videos helped me beat madness 16 for the first time! My friends and I love the content!
Congrats!
Thanks!
Thank you so much! This makes a big difference.
Nice, been waiting for the Gustav one :) Cheers
hey man i'm a new subscriber to the channel. just recently got into AtO earlier this week and your guides have been super helpful. keep up the good work and thank you!
Thank you!
Just have to say that I picked the game up for my steam deck and you have been my number one go to for breaking down play patterns and understanding the game in general. Thanks so much for your videos.
That makes me so happy to hear, thank you! Be sure to let me know if there are any topics or questions I need to cover. Video requests are my favorite ones to make.
Your guides are fantastic. One minor feedback. Do perks before starting deck. Since how the game works you have to assign perks before you enter main town. Having Perks as first part of video makes sense. I always have to skip around your vids watching perks first with slider etc =)
Playing 3 ballad of conquests in a turn is so overpowered
Veni vidi vici!
Just a heads up (colorblind) blue upgrade of Chant of Accuracy is now only self. I love the content and have been binge watching over the last few days.
Loving this game and loving your videos
Just wanted to say I have been loving your videos. Watching these has helped me learn so much. Idk if you've mentioned this in one of your videos but just curious if you have a favorite hero or team comp?
Thank you so much!
My most comfortable team is Magnus/corn/ottis/regi because that's what I first pushed m16 as.
Most enjoyable team? Self-burn Cornelius pre-amputation (can't really call it a nerf). There is something VERY satisfying about passing the turn to the enemy and them all popping into ashes as they each take their turn. The closest thing we have to that now is a Wilbur Spark team. Both of those comps run your choice of tank+heals with an Eve support.
Gustav! Been looking forward to this one - this, Heiner, and Grukli are probably my three most-wanted guides out of who's left.
So you mention the deck example here being sort of an all-purpose, and cutting what doesn't make sense for your particular team comp. What in particular would you be looking to fill those gaps with, where you cut cards? Deflects for more cantripping? More vanishing Chant of Accuracy?
Early game you can accept filler of just keeping the Shivs. Ideally it would be more deflects. You really only want to run about 3-4 Chants of Accuracy just because you can only play so many in a turn, and only really want to be spending time on them on turn 1. Turn 2 you want to be focused on team survival. Eventually those gaps are filled in with talent cards and the big songs mentioned in Act 4.
Honestly you have improved a lot. The videos are pretty good now and without many large flaws other than duration but honestly that is inescapable with your style. Do you play any of the other game modes other than the standard mode? Dont think you have actually posted anything on either weekly challenge or obelisk so was curious because they are vastly different in terms of thought process
I play Obelisk mode occasionally. I enjoy it because it's easier and you level up faster. You also get way better items. :) I dislike it because it's easier, haha.
I plan to eventually post some Obelisk Mode content; just so much I want to cover.
Im convinced youre the main reason for a lot of nerfs in the game. You're just too good at finding great combos. Thanks for the content.
Haha, careful who you say that to, touchy subject. Some I think I find, but for most I just bring to light others' ideas. Thanks so much!
You only run two Chant of Accuracy in that act two save. Is that right? Doesn't that cause you to have low damage issues?
There is a 3rd Chant hiding in the 1-cost area, and a 4th one hiding as a Scavenge. I will eventually cut the Scavenge in Favor of Encore once I get it. My goal is to have around 4 casts of Chant available. I also start to worry less about the Chants in this run as the game progresses, because Bree is dishing out a lot of it as well.
Hey there, love your videos, extremely helpful. I was wondering, now that blue chant of accuracy costs mana, is there anything you'd change particularly in the builds?
I would consider picking the energy rebate lvl 3 instead of the +1 sharp, especially if I can pickup a corrupted weapon on gustav that gives +1 sharp. Those are a lot easier to get now.
just ran gustav on a sharp nezglekt build. it's definitely not as strong as a regular sharp build, especially since it comes online during act 2, but it's still really fun at least haha
Razor sharp wit that Nezglekt.
Not sure when this changed but Chant of Accuracy Yellow now is a "self" boost instead of being able to target ally
Sorry, BLUE chant of accuracy is now a self boost
Yes, they nerfed it shortly after my showcase video on it. You will now just use the white one. It costs more energy but you can still manage to play most of them.
@@deckertech-aaron for sure, love the vids BTW, coming back to them again after getting back into AtO :)
Now that the blue Chant of Accuracy is Self instead of Hero, do you recommend us use all yellow?
Yes, the goal is to get the sharp on your dps still. Energy budget will just be tighter. So likely you will want to use 0 cost setups until you have an adrenaline
@DeckerTech So with the change to chant of accuracy would you still recommend doing a 3x start at 1 energy and dropping captivating or something?
Yes, all the deck building and strat stays the same, you just end up having to decide between healing and sharp more often. If anything I would go one less vigilance, since that is one of the biggest energy drains. Then ofc picking up the song rebate talent if you need to be both a sharp machine and healer one turns 1-2 (I still go +sharp talent most the time).
Makes sense. Thanks
can we get a gustav dps perhaps
I just did a run with Gustav as the DPS on madness 5. I got lucky with a corrupted card that could give me stanza II so from then on it was pretty smooth sailing. (Except for the Faeborg fight cuz Gustav got frozen and lost all of his resources lol...)
Congrats! Starting with Stanza 2 is definitely a game changer.
hi. why didnt u take the stanza 1 perk with gustav? do u think its worth it?
If we are talking about the stanza on turn one perk, Gustav already has that in his passive. If we talking about other ones, they are/were weak enough that I can't even recall what they do.
@@deckertech-aaron ok :D thx
has this been changed? i just started playing the games and have 30 hours on it and i love playing sharp build with andrin i wonder if this is still viable or it has been nerfed/changed
It has been nerfed shortly after my video...
However, it's still exactly how I play Gustav/Andrin support. The notable changes are that the 'hero' sharp costs 1 instead of 0, and his free healing talent was lowered significantly. This means you have to be more picky about where you spend your energy, and maybe run the 0 cost chant of initiative for a bit.
Key cards are:
Trace (innate target hero).
2 vigilance (innate draw).
2 chant of initiative (cheapest versions you need).
Setup (0 cost for Gustav, 1 cost for Andrin or if you van afford it.
Deflect (draw).
Optional:
Song of celerity ( I think thats the name, innate fast to all)
The all enemies slow song.
Preferred healing cards.
Hi! I've been playing ato with a friend and we really don't see any value in sight. Could you explain that to me a bit more?
Ì guess it's because we haven't unlocked nezglekt and sylvie yet
Exactly, before those two were added.to the game, it was simply used as a way to preview enemy cards. Now they added some damage and healing for those two characters, but it's still fairly mild.
@@deckertech-aaron so what would you recommend using over vigilance when running gustav? Im currently using gustav, grukli, heiner and reginald. Do think I need to change comp for more damage though
Vigilance is there for the card draw and innate, not for the sight. Use it paired with trace to dig through your deck better. Vigilance will also clear a stack of buffer for enemies.
Grukli should be plenty of damage on his own if given resources: sharp, bless, inspire, energize.
@@deckertech-aaron Ahh I was looking at the unupgraded version that only gives sight which is why I was confused. Thanks! Love the guides!
Not sure it's a bug or something, sometimes I play powerslave and it changed stanza I to II for appearantly no reason. That does open up some options in turn 1 tho.
And I double checked there's no purple song of initiative as well in his deck, not a single purple
I've not seen this interaction, so I can't really speak to it.
@@deckertech-aaron Oops, I actually figured out what causing my confusion. I said that I didn't have a single purple, I meant purple *card*, but I forgot about I have a purple singing sword. I always ignore the gain 1 stanza part on Gustav because of his starting talent. My bad.
That's a fantastic pickup. I missed a few cards giving stanza 2, didn't even think to check items. Hope the run goes/went well!
@@deckertech-aaron Yeah, being able to turn 1 song of conquer/evasion or never-ending story is quite fun.
Also, thanks for the guilds mate! I might never discover Magenus on my own lol
yeeaah we like
Does Gustav work with like nezzy dps with mind dmg?
Once your team hits level 3 he does. That's definitely the concern at higher difficulty though, getting to level three. Act 1-2 are currently the hardest with how the game scaling works out. At least that's my experience.
Can this be translated to Andrin in some way?
Any non-frog bard will need a very consistent deck to ensure getting Stanza 1 on turn 1. (They plan on removing the perk for it soon). Other than that is translates fairly well. Gustav starts with some good Dispel songs and the Chants of Accuracy though.
This is abit lame that it relies on corrupt trace otherwise you discard them and have to rotate?
Normal trace is perfectly fine. Sorry that I was unclear about that. I often run the self trace for speed of gameplay (dont have to target), then switch it at Archon to target hero.
Melodic Rhythm is now 5% health recovery with +1 heal/regen. Blue Chant of Accuracy is now self; yellow is anyone but costs 1 and does not burn. Not saying this is a build deal breaker but it does Gustav no favors. To compensate I lean towards going with Fanfare. You allude to doing this anyway. I'm not sure if that's enough. I tend play with a friend and we use balanced groups - not setting up one character to kill everything.
Love your content. It's relevant, thoughtful, so thank you for it.
Thank you! I agree that the cost rebate talent goes up in value with the changes, and Gustav has to be more considerate with energy usage overall.