It annoys me that your channel isn’t as big as the bigger names like TMF and AlphaM. Your content is soooo much more comprehensive and unique. I hope you continue to grow to their size.
That's why he's not as big, they do much more general style tips. But, I do agree his content is much more comprehensive and I also hope he keeps growing.
I’m happy being the artisanal denim shop vs their Old Navy mass market denim. A market for both but happy to be niche too 😁 I really appreciate your support though!
As a so-capped "creator" I can't imagine how TMF/Alpha M/RMRS can put out "style" videos like theirs every week. How many times can you tell guys not to wear a brown belt with black shoes or say that a bathing suit is a "must have item for summer!" I'd lose respect for myself if I did that every week for years. It's maddening.
@@Ferfe84 I agree. After one day of sweating in it it starts to smell and feels a little clammy the next time I wear it. Does not happen with my merino wool shirt from wool and prince.
Mizzen and Main is the absolute best ! I've tried the rest and these guys are unbeatable. Made in USA as well - also their magnetic collar stays are great
Update - M&M is now making there clothing overseas. You can zero in on the label of their newer items and see made in Indonesia, etc I conversed with their information department and they acknowledged this transition to 3rd world outsourcing. So if you are buying for Made In USA think again now. Funny how their prices didn't even come down going to 3rd world labor.
I think you really undersold the ministry of supply's fit. Their shirts are absolutely incredible and feel amazing. The fact that they designed their shirts around how a man body moves is incredible. I never knew how comfortable a dress shirt could be until I tried them. Also, if you don't love the fit, I believe Ministry will cover your tailoring costs as well. I love mizzen and main, but I almost feel naked at work wearing ministry of supply
Ironically, in my opinion State & Liberty and Woodies looked the best on you. Thanks for the review! To me these are all too expensive for what they are.
Thank you for these great videos and advice! Based on this video I ended up stopping in a Bonobos guide shop (not easy for a Canadian like me) and I found a shirt that fit me off the rack for the first time! I ended up purchasing the tech shirts and they're amazing!
Just bought some mizzen and main based upon reviews and I absolutely love them! Had no idea about performance dress shirts until checking out your channel. Thanks for the awesome content, Jon!!
Appreciate the time you took to make this video. I never heard of some of the companies on it but since watching it have ordered Woodies, Bonobos and, not sure if on this video, Bugatchi but love them all. Thanks!
Based on your advice, I ordered a Twillory and a Woodies ... Mizzen & Main is on its way. So far I really love the Woodies, like the Twillory quite a lot, and am looking forward to the M&M. Thanks for the comparison review!
Thanks for the vid Jon. Ive been collecting different dress shirts and ties.and i agree this is on point .ty for the hard work putting on and off those shirts just for the peeps wanting to find a great dress shirts for this one (performance wise)
I'm glad I stumbled across this vide. I've been buying exclusively at State and Liberty (I wear a 44 jacket and a 33 waist, so the "athletic fit" sounded perfect. I'll have to try some of these others.
Great to finally see the performance round-up. State and Liberty haha, only been saying that for a couple years. I tried them awhile ago. I do agree not the same quality fabric as Mizzen and Main. But that collar is fantastic on it, the one thing they beat out Mizzen and Main on. The collar makes the State and Liberty shirt is still one of my favorites for wearing under a sweater or vest, since the collar stays nice and tucked. Also being hockey fan I love their marketing and branding. Still just have the one shirt, but it does make it into the rotation fairly often. If I was ever by a pop up store I wouldn't mind giving one of their coats a try, pretty steep price.
Great roundup. Most of my shirts are Mizzen and Main these days, they're the perfect shirt if you don't mind the cost (last chance section is pretty awesome).
Mizzen+Main Leeward and Blue Label lines are no longer Made in USA. They are now being made in Dominican Republic, despite the RUclips video advertising from M+M still saying they're Made in USA. The only shirt they have that is still Made in USA is their Spinnaker line.
Great detailed video, Jon! Great options for men who are trying to shift into a more refined style. Too bad I am allergic to synthetic fabric, so I can only wear 100% cotton shirts, my fav tailor is from Rome but since it is very far from where I am based at, I have found ok sources to custom my shirts. Looking forward to seeing some skincare products on your channel! Congrats again on pursuing a non biased recommendation!
Great roundup Jon. Love my Mizzen & Main shirts. I also love my Deo Veritas bamboo, Bonobos Performance (jetsetter too), and Twillory performance. I wanted to like State and Liberty but didn’t like the fit at all. Will need to try Woodies. I’ll pass on the others. I have a closet full of traditional dress shirts but always find myself wearing the performance shirts.
Awesome roundup! You should really check out the Nordstrom Tech-Smart shirts. I know you generally look at online brands, but Bonobos is in stores, so I'm thinking there is some wiggle room. I actually own Mizzen & Main, Twillory, and Nordstrom Tech Smart. Mizzen & Main is hands-down the best. Twillory is interesting because their fabric varies significantly from shirt to shirt. I have a white one that is amazing, but I have a pink one that is underwhelming. Nordstrom Smart-Tech is really quite exceptional. They're high quality, extremely comfortable, and have as many or more style options available than Mizzen & Main.
Where's your wool and Prince shirt haha! And my favorite would be kamakura knit travelers shirt. Very impressive fabric and design and fit is impeccable. 2nd favorite is ministry! I love their effort into research and design, and you can really see their passion into their products.
This is the only channel I found that compares performance dress shirts, can you make a recommendation for the best dress shirt in the moisture wicking aspect for people with hyperhidrosis (excessive sweating)? Thank you for all your efforts
I find Ministey of Supply to be inconsistent in their sizing. I have 3 Apollo 3 shirts in Medium Slim. Two fit like a glove, but the third is too tight in the chest. I have an aero medium in slim and regular. The regular fits well in the chest but looks dumpy at the waist, the the slim fits more like a small. I have a few Mizzen Main Leeward blue in Large trim. They fit the shoulders well but are not tapered enough at the waist. I live in S. Florida and usually wear them with an undershirt. Once I start to sweat, they feel weird and plasticky if I don't (MOS moreso than MM).
When wearing a white performance dress shirt with no white shirt underneath, does the shirt seem somewhat see through and change to be your skin tone, or are they somewhat opaque?
Going to try out mizzen and main. Only experience with performance dress shirts was Nordstrom tech smart shirts. Really like them, Especially for the price.
Reel Issues I own both brands and love them both. I think Mizzen & Main will be more durable over the years, although I find Nordstrom Tech-Smart are less likely to stand out to an observer as a technical fabric.
Great roundup! This is definitely Mizzen's sweet spot. I love their stuff (in part due to your recs). Curious, are you working on a traditional shirt roundup, i.e. Eton, Proper Cloth, Deo Veritas? Also, you may have missed this but both Proper Cloth and Deo Veritas I believe now offer cotton / stretch fabrics also.
You do a great job of your reviews. I really enjoy the chill vibe compared to other RUclipsrs. Do you post on reddit subs like MFA? It may help you grow your audience.
Great blog and Channel! I would suggest: Seagale, Sepiia, Vardama, Wolk, Wool & Prince and Labfresh. I am very interested in european vendors, because I live in Spain and the shipping and Customs Costs (also exchange/return issues) are very high. Last but not least I would suggest a review of Suitsupply travel products (shirts and suits). It would be great.
Ministry of Supply Apollo 3 vs Aero, which is cooler for tropical countries (30-38 C hot, humid climate)? Aero has some vents under the armpits and the whole marketing says it's cooler, Apollo 3 talks about temperature control which I think regulates body heat so more intended for temperate climates where evenings get chilly, but then you say the Apollo 3 is the coolest performance dress shirt. I need something that lets air trough so it cools and dries quickly, just by sitting wearing a cotton dress shirt without AC and it's soaked.
I wish more performance dress shirts were available in the traditional sizes. I need a 15 32 fitted. I can't find anything that fits if the size is just small or medium.
I'm not sure if you have All Citizens on your radar, The selection is limited to 3 colors for the long and short sleeve button downs and unfortunately their largest size XL is too small for my body, but they are planning to expand their sizes and colors, and the pricing is comparable to Twillory, while being of higher quality in terms of material. Sadly the return process is slow and not simplified like some of the brands, but they seem to make up for it in quality and price, if you are lucky enough to fit in the range that they offer. Mizzen and Main is the best shirts I have in terms of quality and performance, but their higher price point prohibits me from getting my entire wardrobe from them. I do want to get my staple white dress shirt from them as it seems like a no brainer.
If I were going to get a dress white shirt for my wedding, would I go with Mizzen and Main or Ministry of Supply? I prefer the cooling aspect of Ministry of Supply, but also want the flexibility of Mizzen and Main. Do Mizzen and Main keep you cool?
Woodies is 97% cotton and custom made, does that mean after I wash it it will shrink considerably? Can you speak to the wrinkle resistance? I’m really looking for a shirt I don’t have to dry clean to get the wrinkles out.
Great reviews! Just did a video on the top performance dress shirts of 2019 and included Charles Tyrwhitt shirts which weren't mentioned in this video. Was curious to know if you have any thoughts on the brand?
I just got my first shirt from Woodies. I went with the non-iron shirt. The quality is good and the fabric is nice and soft, but it wrinkles very easily. I should have went with the performance shirt.
Would love your opinion on performance shirts from Express. Can get them on sale for like $50. I like that they have slim and extra slim but don’t know how they compare quality-wise with others...
I have a few Express 1MX shirts. I wouldn't call them "performance" in the same way since they're just a cotton-stretch fabric without any sort of hydrophobic or non-iron coating. Quality is typical mall-tier: nothing special or noteworthy, either way. What sinks them for me is how floppy and soggy the placket is. Without a tie the collar sags, droops, flops open and looks awful.
Are the M&M cuffs french or american placket for their dress shirts? Also, are they french or barreled? The preview pictures indicate that they are french but i'm doubtful they would be especially since they aren't described as such. Thanks
Quality of Woodies shirts was poor on my most recent order. Two shirts with the same sizing fit very different, a lot of loose stitches around the buttons and they do not do returns. Proper Cloth is a much better option for made to measure
You mention avoiding dry cleaning.....do you dry clean your ordinary cotton shirts? If so why....? Never once occurred to me! You clearly like the bonobos and ministry of supply but I’d have them as two of the worst fit wise, both look too big on you IMO Another great video, fantastic attention to detail as ever.
I find performance dress shirts fix a non-issue. No shirt maker, at least any who have any slight idea of what they sell, recommend dry cleaning a shirt. Dry cleaning is harder on your shirt than machine washing unless you put your dress shirts on a heavy duty setting or something. I have shirts from JcPenney, all the way to turnbull and asser, I can and do machine wash ALL of them. None of them have faded, ripped, torn, or worn out. On the idea of moisture-wicking, POLYESTER DO NOT BREATH! Part of the reason you sweat is because you are wearing a polyester shirt, if you get a decent cotton dress shirt then this isn't an issue.
One thing to point out is that Bonobos has fit store locally to get you measured and sized into their system. Right next door to Allen Edmonds soooo convenient to get fitted professionally in about 20min. Joe Rogan also swears by M&M fwiw.
I used to like the Twillory shirts, especially the price and neck/sleeve sizing, but with both their performance and regular non-irons the tips of the collars turn in (past the end of the collar stay). Anyone else have this problem?
D A I have several Twillory shirts. There is a very subtle "turn in" that I think won't bother most people. I imagine anyone on this channel tends to be more particular, though. Ironically, I use the Twillory collar stays for all of my shirts.
@@The_Kavalier yep, always cold/delicate wash hang dry. I agree that it's not a huge deal, and I'm not a snob, I promise! And Twillory nails the fit for me like no other OTR brand, so I'll probably buy some more in the future. Maybe I'll go buy some now.
For Mizzen/Main "THEKAV10 discount code isn’t valid for the items in your cart"... I bought one anyway on your recommendation. Surprised to see that in the trim fit according to their sizing guidelines i'm a Medium and not a Large, oh well I guess I'll find out....
Update... so I got the shirt, paid handsomely for it (~$150) but I think it’s worth it, I think. I’m a bit over 6 ft, 42” in the chest, size 16 collar and 34” sleeves and much to my surprise the medium Blue Label fits great. Interesting fabric, very stretchy, nothing like any shirt I have. Comfortable though. Sloppy stitching that frays after one wear, so have some trimming scissors handy. Oh, and amazingly enough the shirt didn’t wrinkle after a day in the office + a bike commute both ways
Beat me to it. My other go-to is that bamboo shirt from deo veritas OR Mizzen Blue Label. Depending on budget I’d also consider Twillory regular sage cotton line
Thanks! Have you had good experience with the wrinkle resistant from ledbury? I am looking for a shirt that I can put in a suitcase. So a wrinkle resistant or performance.
You'll have to iron Ledbury, but they do hold up throughout the day without wrinkles. I have yet to find a shirt that truly never wrinkles... Mizzen & Main and Twillory are the closest I've seen and good enough for most situations.
Just tried on Banana Republic's technical dress shirt and it was horrid. Thin [almost translucent in white], no stretch, and wretched lack of attention to details.
Agreed, their traveler line is solid. Unfortunately the technical shirts they've been promoting aren't good. The ones I tried on had issues like uncut strings, bad/sloppy hemming. The Medium fit was poor, had no stretch, and the fabric quality was very poor. All an all a very poor showing for BR. If you end up checking them out, I'd be curious if you have the same experience.
JAMES I used to regularly purchase both those brands (until I found this channel). Van Heusen are hands down the lowest quality dress shirt I've ever owned (although, ironically, their trousers are alright). Stafford's Super Shirts are the only ones worth discussing. They are stain resistant and have a great slim fit, however, you can get much better shirts and greater variety for the price (unless you're raiding the $7 clearance section). I also dislike that they have non-removable collar stays. If you're on an ultra-tight budget, the Staffords are better than VH. If you're just cheep, then try Twillory, the Tie Bar, or even the Nordstrom brand (when on sale). All of these will last much longer, look better, and feel much better.
Olorin thank you I will check those brains out I used to weigh 311 pounds I lost 134 lb and I weigh 180 Ib now I used to have a big dress shirt collection now I have to rebuild because I lost a lot of weight I love wearing dress shirts and I love your videos you look great and have great Style and thank you again
JAMES Congrats in losing all that weight! That’s exactly what drove me to rebuild my wardrobe (although I only lost 50 lbs). By the way, I’m not the Kavalier, just an over-zealous guy who doesn’t know when to shut up!
It annoys me that your channel isn’t as big as the bigger names like TMF and AlphaM. Your content is soooo much more comprehensive and unique. I hope you continue to grow to their size.
That's why he's not as big, they do much more general style tips. But, I do agree his content is much more comprehensive and I also hope he keeps growing.
I’m happy being the artisanal denim shop vs their Old Navy mass market denim. A market for both but happy to be niche too 😁
I really appreciate your support though!
Real research goes on here.
AlphaM is a joke
As a so-capped "creator" I can't imagine how TMF/Alpha M/RMRS can put out "style" videos like theirs every week. How many times can you tell guys not to wear a brown belt with black shoes or say that a bathing suit is a "must have item for summer!"
I'd lose respect for myself if I did that every week for years. It's maddening.
I have Completely overhauled my wardrobe with your recommendations. Ministry of Supply is hands down my favorite. Thank you Jon. Keep them coming.
@@Ferfe84 I agree. After one day of sweating in it it starts to smell and feels a little clammy the next time I wear it. Does not happen with my merino wool shirt from wool and prince.
Mizzen and Main is the absolute best ! I've tried the rest and these guys are unbeatable. Made in USA as well - also their magnetic collar stays are great
Update - M&M is now making there clothing overseas. You can zero in on the label of their newer items and see made in Indonesia, etc I conversed with their information department and they acknowledged this transition to 3rd world outsourcing. So if you are buying for Made In USA think again now. Funny how their prices didn't even come down going to 3rd world labor.
I think you really undersold the ministry of supply's fit. Their shirts are absolutely incredible and feel amazing. The fact that they designed their shirts around how a man body moves is incredible. I never knew how comfortable a dress shirt could be until I tried them. Also, if you don't love the fit, I believe Ministry will cover your tailoring costs as well. I love mizzen and main, but I almost feel naked at work wearing ministry of supply
Ironically, in my opinion State & Liberty and Woodies looked the best on you. Thanks for the review! To me these are all too expensive for what they are.
Just picked up a Mizzen+Main shirt based on this video. Thanks man
Thank you for these great videos and advice! Based on this video I ended up stopping in a Bonobos guide shop (not easy for a Canadian like me) and I found a shirt that fit me off the rack for the first time! I ended up purchasing the tech shirts and they're amazing!
Niiiiiice love to hear that Patrick!!
Just bought some mizzen and main based upon reviews and I absolutely love them! Had no idea about performance dress shirts until checking out your channel. Thanks for the awesome content, Jon!!
Appreciate the time you took to make this video. I never heard of some of the companies on it but since watching it have ordered Woodies, Bonobos and, not sure if on this video, Bugatchi but love them all. Thanks!
Based on your advice, I ordered a Twillory and a Woodies ... Mizzen & Main is on its way. So far I really love the Woodies, like the Twillory quite a lot, and am looking forward to the M&M. Thanks for the comparison review!
Thoughts on all three compared to each other?
Love your style man, I particularly like the straight in on point, I can't stand minute-long intros like in other vids. Well done man!
Mizzen and Main is the best. Thanks for putting it on my radar many videos ago! Nothing wrong guys with a little economic patriotism btw, made in USA.
Thanks for the vid Jon. Ive been collecting different dress shirts and ties.and i agree this is on point .ty for the hard work putting on and off those shirts just for the peeps wanting to find a great dress shirts for this one (performance wise)
The best kind that I like are Roundtree & Yorke, cotton & polyester dress shirt.
I have been waiting for this one ever since I found your channel! Love it! Thank you for putting in all the effort to do this for us!
Once you get that woodies fit nailed, the 2.0 performance shirt will be ready to be on your back!
The Kavalier I am pumped for that! I think Woodies is going to be my go to based on what I’ve heard!
Mizzen and Main all the way! I only have about 20 of their shirts now :)
I'm glad I stumbled across this vide. I've been buying exclusively at State and Liberty (I wear a 44 jacket and a 33 waist, so the "athletic fit" sounded perfect. I'll have to try some of these others.
Excited to see the new woodies shirt. If you sign up for newsletters you can get a link to the Kickstarter page that they're working on
I already have the 2.0 shirt 😏😉
The Kavalier sneaky!
Just placed an order for my first Mizzen + Main dress shirt thanks to this video! Can’t wait to give it a shot! Thanks, Jon!
Great to finally see the performance round-up. State and Liberty haha, only been saying that for a couple years. I tried them awhile ago. I do agree not the same quality fabric as Mizzen and Main. But that collar is fantastic on it, the one thing they beat out Mizzen and Main on. The collar makes the State and Liberty shirt is still one of my favorites for wearing under a sweater or vest, since the collar stays nice and tucked. Also being hockey fan I love their marketing and branding. Still just have the one shirt, but it does make it into the rotation fairly often. If I was ever by a pop up store I wouldn't mind giving one of their coats a try, pretty steep price.
I do want to check out their outerwear, see if that’s worth it. I know they cater to sports better than M+M, good way to differentiate.
Great roundup. Most of my shirts are Mizzen and Main these days, they're the perfect shirt if you don't mind the cost (last chance section is pretty awesome).
also M&M has some awesome magnetic collar stays. Collars stand up all day sharp!
Mizzen+Main Leeward and Blue Label lines are no longer Made in USA. They are now being made in Dominican Republic, despite the RUclips video advertising from M+M still saying they're Made in USA. The only shirt they have that is still Made in USA is their Spinnaker line.
Great detailed video, Jon! Great options for men who are trying to shift into a more refined style. Too bad I am allergic to synthetic fabric, so I can only wear 100% cotton shirts, my fav tailor is from Rome but since it is very far from where I am based at, I have found ok sources to custom my shirts. Looking forward to seeing some skincare products on your channel! Congrats again on pursuing a non biased recommendation!
Great roundup Jon. Love my Mizzen & Main shirts. I also love my Deo Veritas bamboo, Bonobos Performance (jetsetter too), and Twillory performance. I wanted to like State and Liberty but didn’t like the fit at all. Will need to try Woodies. I’ll pass on the others. I have a closet full of traditional dress shirts but always find myself wearing the performance shirts.
Awesome roundup! You should really check out the Nordstrom Tech-Smart shirts. I know you generally look at online brands, but Bonobos is in stores, so I'm thinking there is some wiggle room. I actually own Mizzen & Main, Twillory, and Nordstrom Tech Smart.
Mizzen & Main is hands-down the best.
Twillory is interesting because their fabric varies significantly from shirt to shirt. I have a white one that is amazing, but I have a pink one that is underwhelming.
Nordstrom Smart-Tech is really quite exceptional. They're high quality, extremely comfortable, and have as many or more style options available than Mizzen & Main.
Love Mizzen and Main! Best feel and fit of any shirt... but threads, especially on button holes fray way too much.
Excellent Review as always. I like Mizzen and Main however I have yet to find a size that fits. They're either too tight or too big.
Where's your wool and Prince shirt haha! And my favorite would be kamakura knit travelers shirt. Very impressive fabric and design and fit is impeccable. 2nd favorite is ministry! I love their effort into research and design, and you can really see their passion into their products.
A number of things I didnt know in this video. Always informative Jon. Thanks buddy 🙌🏼🔥
I enjoy all your videos just curious how come you haven't made a new one or even updated a previous one for quite some time?
This is the only channel I found that compares performance dress shirts, can you make a recommendation for the best dress shirt in the moisture wicking aspect for people with hyperhidrosis (excessive sweating)?
Thank you for all your efforts
I find Ministey of Supply to be inconsistent in their sizing. I have 3 Apollo 3 shirts in Medium Slim. Two fit like a glove, but the third is too tight in the chest. I have an aero medium in slim and regular. The regular fits well in the chest but looks dumpy at the waist, the the slim fits more like a small. I have a few Mizzen Main Leeward blue in Large trim. They fit the shoulders well but are not tapered enough at the waist. I live in S. Florida and usually wear them with an undershirt. Once I start to sweat, they feel weird and plasticky if I don't (MOS moreso than MM).
When wearing a white performance dress shirt with no white shirt underneath, does the shirt seem somewhat see through and change to be your skin tone, or are they somewhat opaque?
Going to try out mizzen and main. Only experience with performance dress shirts was Nordstrom tech smart shirts. Really like them, Especially for the price.
Reel Issues I own both brands and love them both. I think Mizzen & Main will be more durable over the years, although I find Nordstrom Tech-Smart are less likely to stand out to an observer as a technical fabric.
By the way, for those who don't know, Mizzen & Maine are typically in Nordstrom stores, so you can try them on before ordering them.
Great roundup! This is definitely Mizzen's sweet spot. I love their stuff (in part due to your recs). Curious, are you working on a traditional shirt roundup, i.e. Eton, Proper Cloth, Deo Veritas? Also, you may have missed this but both Proper Cloth and Deo Veritas I believe now offer cotton / stretch fabrics also.
You do a great job of your reviews. I really enjoy the chill vibe compared to other RUclipsrs. Do you post on reddit subs like MFA? It may help you grow your audience.
I dont think I am picky enough for MFA but I always want to get better about using reddit. Have been on there for 5 years
Great blog and Channel! I would suggest: Seagale, Sepiia, Vardama, Wolk, Wool & Prince and Labfresh.
I am very interested in european vendors, because I live in Spain and the shipping and Customs Costs (also exchange/return issues) are very high.
Last but not least I would suggest a review of Suitsupply travel products (shirts and suits). It would be great.
Ministry of Supply Apollo 3 vs Aero, which is cooler for tropical countries (30-38 C hot, humid climate)? Aero has some vents under the armpits and the whole marketing says it's cooler, Apollo 3 talks about temperature control which I think regulates body heat so more intended for temperate climates where evenings get chilly, but then you say the Apollo 3 is the coolest performance dress shirt. I need something that lets air trough so it cools and dries quickly, just by sitting wearing a cotton dress shirt without AC and it's soaked.
Hey have you tried Proper Cloths performance fabric? Was interested in buying one and was looking for feedback/thoughts
I wish more performance dress shirts were available in the traditional sizes. I need a 15 32 fitted. I can't find anything that fits if the size is just small or medium.
Great video but the framed image of generic breakfast in the background is absolutely insane
I'm not sure if you have All Citizens on your radar, The selection is limited to 3 colors for the long and short sleeve button downs and unfortunately their largest size XL is too small for my body, but they are planning to expand their sizes and colors, and the pricing is comparable to Twillory, while being of higher quality in terms of material. Sadly the return process is slow and not simplified like some of the brands, but they seem to make up for it in quality and price, if you are lucky enough to fit in the range that they offer. Mizzen and Main is the best shirts I have in terms of quality and performance, but their higher price point prohibits me from getting my entire wardrobe from them. I do want to get my staple white dress shirt from them as it seems like a no brainer.
Was going to buy mizz and main but then read they no longer make them in America, so what’s the point? Going with Twillory.
If I were going to get a dress white shirt for my wedding, would I go with Mizzen and Main or Ministry of Supply? I prefer the cooling aspect of Ministry of Supply, but also want the flexibility of Mizzen and Main. Do Mizzen and Main keep you cool?
Have you tried out Butter Cloth? I have two and they're fantastic. I'd like to know how you think they compare to these!
I have been wearing the Brooks Brothers no iron for at least 10 years. Have you tried? I received a mailing they are offering a performance shirt now.
I wish I saw this video sooner. It would've saved me lots of hours and money.
Woodies is 97% cotton and custom made, does that mean after I wash it it will shrink considerably? Can you speak to the wrinkle resistance? I’m really looking for a shirt I don’t have to dry clean to get the wrinkles out.
THIS IS THE ONE IVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!
Great reviews! Just did a video on the top performance dress shirts of 2019 and included Charles Tyrwhitt shirts which weren't mentioned in this video. Was curious to know if you have any thoughts on the brand?
Thanks for the review. Out of all of these, which one truly never needs to be ironed and still holds its collar shape nicely?
Bluffworks
Have you tried the Rhône performance dress shirt? Thoughts?
HI, Just wondering how the Bonobos Tech shirts compare to the Jet Setter line? Do you have any experience with them?
Which is the best brand for muscular gym guys? I have a 32 inch waist with a broad chest and shoulders so most off the rack shirts fit horrible on me
Good stuff man. I'd love if you'd review Stacy Adams loafers for a fully-leather super-budget dress shoe option
Wonderful video as always, even though most if not all of these brands aren’t available for Europeans. Keep it up !
I just got my first shirt from Woodies. I went with the non-iron shirt. The quality is good and the fabric is nice and soft, but it wrinkles very easily. I should have went with the performance shirt.
Love your content, great channel! Subbed!
Would love your opinion on performance shirts from Express. Can get them on sale for like $50. I like that they have slim and extra slim but don’t know how they compare quality-wise with others...
I have a few Express 1MX shirts. I wouldn't call them "performance" in the same way since they're just a cotton-stretch fabric without any sort of hydrophobic or non-iron coating. Quality is typical mall-tier: nothing special or noteworthy, either way. What sinks them for me is how floppy and soggy the placket is. Without a tie the collar sags, droops, flops open and looks awful.
Express now has 'Performance' shirts which are sweat wicking that are different than the 1MX ones...
Are the M&M cuffs french or american placket for their dress shirts? Also, are they french or barreled? The preview pictures indicate that they are french but i'm doubtful they would be especially since they aren't described as such. Thanks
The blue label has the option to do cuff links but are not true French I’d considering double ply rolled cuff. Standard line is just barreled
What are the corners you see cut by State and Liberty?
Quality of Woodies shirts was poor on my most recent order. Two shirts with the same sizing fit very different, a lot of loose stitches around the buttons and they do not do returns. Proper Cloth is a much better option for made to measure
I still don't own a performance dress shirt. I like the Woodies as well. I will have to check out which company ships to Europe.
Fantastic review. Thanks!
What are your thoughts about butter cloth?
Great vid homie! If I had to
Guess you are some
Sort of tech consultant. Sales force or dynamics 365 type work.
Yes similar stuff. Smaller company
The Kavalier nice nice very nice
How are rhone dress shirts
great work bud.
A shame that Bluffworks didn't rate higher because their blazers are so nice.
You mention avoiding dry cleaning.....do you dry clean your ordinary cotton shirts? If so why....? Never once occurred to me!
You clearly like the bonobos and ministry of supply but I’d have them as two of the worst fit wise, both look too big on you IMO
Another great video, fantastic attention to detail as ever.
I've got 20 bucks.
What can I get?
I find performance dress shirts fix a non-issue. No shirt maker, at least any who have any slight idea of what they sell, recommend dry cleaning a shirt. Dry cleaning is harder on your shirt than machine washing unless you put your dress shirts on a heavy duty setting or something. I have shirts from JcPenney, all the way to turnbull and asser, I can and do machine wash ALL of them. None of them have faded, ripped, torn, or worn out.
On the idea of moisture-wicking, POLYESTER DO NOT BREATH! Part of the reason you sweat is because you are wearing a polyester shirt, if you get a decent cotton dress shirt then this isn't an issue.
Well done. Thanks!
Can you please do a video like this for performance chinos! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
2 weeks out.
One thing to point out is that Bonobos has fit store locally to get you measured and sized into their system. Right next door to Allen Edmonds soooo convenient to get fitted professionally in about 20min.
Joe Rogan also swears by M&M fwiw.
Joe Rogan, Phil Mickelson, Jon James Watt - nice to be amongst that company 😄
I love purple shirts.
I used to like the Twillory shirts, especially the price and neck/sleeve sizing, but with both their performance and regular non-irons the tips of the collars turn in (past the end of the collar stay). Anyone else have this problem?
D A I have several Twillory shirts. There is a very subtle "turn in" that I think won't bother most people. I imagine anyone on this channel tends to be more particular, though. Ironically, I use the Twillory collar stays for all of my shirts.
How are you washing? I only do cold wash hang dry and have not had that happen
@@The_Kavalier yep, always cold/delicate wash hang dry. I agree that it's not a huge deal, and I'm not a snob, I promise! And Twillory nails the fit for me like no other OTR brand, so I'll probably buy some more in the future. Maybe I'll go buy some now.
For Mizzen/Main "THEKAV10 discount code isn’t valid for the items in your cart"... I bought one anyway on your recommendation. Surprised to see that in the trim fit according to their sizing guidelines i'm a Medium and not a Large, oh well I guess I'll find out....
Update... so I got the shirt, paid handsomely for it (~$150) but I think it’s worth it, I think. I’m a bit over 6 ft, 42” in the chest, size 16 collar and 34” sleeves and much to my surprise the medium Blue Label fits great. Interesting fabric, very stretchy, nothing like any shirt I have. Comfortable though. Sloppy stitching that frays after one wear, so have some trimming scissors handy. Oh, and amazingly enough the shirt didn’t wrinkle after a day in the office + a bike commute both ways
Should prove that ketchup theory on that white shirt he’s wearing
Let’s see a tie collection
If you had to buy one white shirt to wear to a wedding with a suit what would you go with?
Matt Hogan Ledbury
Beat me to it. My other go-to is that bamboo shirt from deo veritas OR Mizzen Blue Label. Depending on budget I’d also consider Twillory regular sage cotton line
Thanks! Have you had good experience with the wrinkle resistant from ledbury? I am looking for a shirt that I can put in a suitcase. So a wrinkle resistant or performance.
You'll have to iron Ledbury, but they do hold up throughout the day without wrinkles. I have yet to find a shirt that truly never wrinkles... Mizzen & Main and Twillory are the closest I've seen and good enough for most situations.
The Kavalier You sold me on Ledbury a long time ago and I've never regretted owning one.
awesome vid and channel...thank you!
Rhone?
Suitsupply shirts please
Performance chino review?
Working on it!
70k nice
All of those shirts are way too expensive for what they look like... in EU there are so much more exciting brands.... check « Première Manche » !
You are sleeping on State and Liberty. They have the most stylish shirts.
Stylish is not always better. Performance matters
Review Eton shirts
I have one ! Love it
Just tried on Banana Republic's technical dress shirt and it was horrid. Thin [almost translucent in white], no stretch, and wretched lack of attention to details.
Really? That’s disappointing. I love their technical chinos.
Agreed, their traveler line is solid. Unfortunately the technical shirts they've been promoting aren't good. The ones I tried on had issues like uncut strings, bad/sloppy hemming. The Medium fit was poor, had no stretch, and the fabric quality was very poor. All an all a very poor showing for BR. If you end up checking them out, I'd be curious if you have the same experience.
The woodys and state and liberty fit the best in my opinion
I feel best in that Deo Veritas. I might not be muscular enough for S&L athletic... yet.
Stafford And Vanheusen Dress shirts
JAMES I used to regularly purchase both those brands (until I found this channel). Van Heusen are hands down the lowest quality dress shirt I've ever owned (although, ironically, their trousers are alright). Stafford's Super Shirts are the only ones worth discussing. They are stain resistant and have a great slim fit, however, you can get much better shirts and greater variety for the price (unless you're raiding the $7 clearance section). I also dislike that they have non-removable collar stays. If you're on an ultra-tight budget, the Staffords are better than VH. If you're just cheep, then try Twillory, the Tie Bar, or even the Nordstrom brand (when on sale). All of these will last much longer, look better, and feel much better.
Olorin thank you I will check those brains out I used to weigh 311 pounds I lost 134 lb and I weigh 180 Ib now I used to have a big dress shirt collection now I have to rebuild because I lost a lot of weight I love wearing dress shirts and I love your videos you look great and have great Style and thank you again
JAMES Congrats in losing all that weight! That’s exactly what drove me to rebuild my wardrobe (although I only lost 50 lbs). By the way, I’m not the Kavalier, just an over-zealous guy who doesn’t know when to shut up!
UNIGLO
Does mizzen & main still suck compared to Woodys?