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  • @ero-senninsama1734
    @ero-senninsama1734 Год назад +4

    19:45 As far as I know, Sora still keeps in contact with most of the 13, if not all of them.

    • @nemoisnobody
      @nemoisnobody  Год назад +2

      That's the best thing I learned about her. She's eternally grateful to those that helped pave the way for her, great and small.

    • @asthinnicomahinay3607
      @asthinnicomahinay3607 Год назад +1

      @@nemoisnobody sadly, one of the legendary 13 knights already passed away due to covid iirc

  • @Mousse9
    @Mousse9 Год назад +7

    It all began with Sora. Actually, Sora had her idol dream, A-chan (her friend, and the girl in the menu of upgrades screen of Holocure) did her research and approached YAGOO about it. YAGOO saw there’s money in it and eventually Hololive was created, with Sora as its only talent (A-chan helped behind the scenes as tech help).
    For a long time Sora struggled alone, until that “Christmas miracle” you mentioned.
    More members were introduced and Hololive slowly grew until it’s the juggernaut it is today.
    This is why many, if not all, members have great respect for Sora. Without her, there would not have been a Hololive to join. She walked so the others could run.

    • @nemoisnobody
      @nemoisnobody  Год назад +4

      Yeah. I was told from the when I was introduced through Idol Showdown that she was the most important member. Now I understand why. Her story was pretty inspiring!

    • @Mousse9
      @Mousse9 Год назад +5

      @@nemoisnobody The other members used to be pretty uptight when socializing with her, which she doesn’t like, she doesn’t want to be on a pedestal. Fortunately they’ve mellowed out some and sometimes include Sora in shenanigans and pranks.

    • @kubomagico8853
      @kubomagico8853 Год назад

      Actually Tokino Sora was announced as Cover Corp's mascot (Cover is the company behind Hololive and is tech development focused)

  • @ero-senninsama1734
    @ero-senninsama1734 Год назад +13

    15:35 Yeah, Sora appreciates the thoughts of the people holding her in such regard, but she also feels like that sort of reverence and the deep respect that comes from her being the oldest hololive member, which comes with a lot of reverence from the Hologirls too, sort of puts her on a pedestal she doesnt want to be in.
    Everyone tries to be too correct and polite around her, typical of Japanese society and their seniority culture, which makes her feel lonely, as she just wants to be treated as one more of the group.
    Lately it has been getting a lot better, and people like Sora and AZki have been recieving a warmer, more relaxed treatment and they join in the jokes and pranks a lot more and stuff. Not everyone treated her like a literal angel, but most girls used to.

    • @nemoisnobody
      @nemoisnobody  Год назад +3

      I heard that those that follow her from the west call her a "goddess". Something that, though she appreciates the sentiment, still kind of makes her grit her teeth a little. As you said, she doesn't like to be put on a pedestal. Kind of hard not to with how rare women like her are!

    • @gilgameshlfx7006
      @gilgameshlfx7006 Год назад +1

      The "daisenpai" treatment comes from later gen. Earlier talents like Roboco, Akirose (Gen 1) doesn't give this treatment.

    • @ero-senninsama1734
      @ero-senninsama1734 Год назад

      @@gilgameshlfx7006 even some gen 0 treats her like this. Its a case by case, but yes, a lot of gen 0 and gen 1 were very chill with her

    • @gilgameshlfx7006
      @gilgameshlfx7006 Год назад

      @@ero-senninsama1734 The only "Gen 0" that been around long enough is Roboco. The rest are newcomers. Gen 0 didn't predates Gen 1. It's just a group of solo debut. Technically Suisei been around long but she wasn't part of Hololive until later on.

  • @ero-senninsama1734
    @ero-senninsama1734 Год назад +5

    Its okay if you dont get all the references, some are a bit more obscure than others and we all learn. Its impossible to know everything when there are more than 50 streamers in Hololive. For example at 17:44, even the stamps have some reference I can identify, like the knockback crowbar being the one that BONKS the horny chatters in streams when they get to horny.
    Or also the rainbow stamp as well, thats a reference to when someone in chat or a group of people in chat create a rainbow by sending SuperChats with all the possible levels of donation (which have different colors) in a RUclips stream in quick succession.
    Chat usually spams the cheaper Superchat, the blue one to send stickers, especially stickers of waves when some of the girls say they have to go to an "Idol Meeting" AKA Going to the bathroom. And the blue its supposed to be like the flushing.

  • @luiztomikawa
    @luiztomikawa Год назад +13

    Lol I can't believe you finished the entire run without one of the Sora's main skills! The "Idol healing" is an AoE Damage effect (that's why the healing is written in quotation marks) that happens everytime you get healed, and since you took Nurse's Horns, and Just Bandage you would been dealing insane damage with her XD Definetly would've been an easier run than it was

    • @nemoisnobody
      @nemoisnobody  Год назад +2

      I'll keep that in mind for my next Sora run!

    • @ODDnanref
      @ODDnanref Год назад

      He took one level in that skill.
      Edit: nevermind. Got the skills mixed.

  • @benjaminyang8476
    @benjaminyang8476 Год назад +2

    I'm glad you watched depressd nousagi he does a good job at laying it out

  • @ero-senninsama1734
    @ero-senninsama1734 Год назад +5

    6:35 Fifty Its a big number for a streamer that began on their own, maybe not so much for the talent of an agency with marketing power, in an enviroment where VTubers already exists, and where most of the viewers are friends and staff.
    Lets consider that Hololive tried to piggy back on the idea of idol and idol culture, which has a huge, fanatic following in Japan, as Yagoo stated that they wanted to make a VTuber agency that resembled big idol groups like AKB48

    • @nemoisnobody
      @nemoisnobody  Год назад +1

      Reaching the double-digits is a pretty big deal starting out, if you ask me! Most of my friends who tried content creation could barely get past two! Not throwing shade at them or anything, just trying to paint a picture of how hard it is to start out these days.

  • @DeviousHands
    @DeviousHands Год назад +5

    I think Kureiji Ollie would be more likely to show up somewhere so small, but who knows, Sora could always be watching...
    "I wonder what the bombs collab with?" - 3 weapons, not all of which you've unlocked! (The same is true of most weapons, usually they have 3 total collabs. I'm choosing not to spoil them, but there's plenty of lists online if you want to rush for them)
    "Sora, one of the best dancers Hololive's ever known, right?" I can't wait for you to meet Aki, Coco, Marine, Lui, Kiara - wait, you already did her... okay, well, most of those aren't in HoloCure yet, but Hololive has a lot of great dancers ^^ (and I'm sure someone will yell at me for forgetting someone else who's fantastic at dancing!)

    • @nemoisnobody
      @nemoisnobody  Год назад +3

      I heard about Ollie! Seems like a sweet girl! And I do like to discover stuff on my own, so I appreciate that! I'm sure the girls you mentioned are just the tip of the iceburg. I heard even the famous Korone can also serve when she has to!

    • @CyrusMajin
      @CyrusMajin Год назад +1

      Bae has gained a reputation for being one of the best dancers since the 4th fes. concerts (day 2 stage and the Hololive x Deko Niina (Deco*27) stage), and has been reinforced by the HoloEN Connect the World concert.

    • @DeviousHands
      @DeviousHands Год назад

      @@Feroce ok on god i forgot about shuba but Bae is news to me ^^ further proof that the dancing talent is through the roof at this point, I can't keep track of it all

  • @EdwardYolag
    @EdwardYolag Год назад +3

    Commenting about gameplay first, on each level up, aiming for the skills (the ones that have a star icon below their own icon) is never a bad option. They usually are what make each character even more unique, and they are more often than not, powerful. You would have been more powerful if you picked the remaining skill on your level ups. (Skills max out at level 3, and there are 3 of them for each character.)
    Other than that, good job on completing the stage and checking the shop.
    What surprises me is that Sora hasn't been able to perform on Yokohama Arena yet. Given hololive's current popularity (although in Japan, Nijisanji is usually more known than hololive) and current music achievements, it wouldn't be an outlandish thing to do.
    I don't know if you check any of the girl's original songs during your research, but I can say Sora's vocal range is something impressive. She can reach Vocaloid levels of high pitch (demonstrated on her "Alien Alien" cover song). And this is because of her training. She can sing opera, and it is known that she has gone under classical music vocal training.
    In my opinion, she has enough stage presence to be alone in the stage and not make it feel empty.

    • @nemoisnobody
      @nemoisnobody  Год назад +1

      They're probably still figuring out what they're gonna do for the Yokohama Arena performance. It's gonna be the most important performance of her life when she gets there. It has to be perfect.

  • @ero-senninsama1734
    @ero-senninsama1734 Год назад +3

    6:12 Technically, there were VTubers in the 2000's. There were figures in japan and the west interacting with fans through a virtual avatar, and artists like the ones that come from the Vocaloid project, or Gorillaz. Japan was getting Vtubers again in the 2010's, but it was around 2015 that Kizuna AI got really famous in Japan and later even got international attention.
    Kizuna Ai leaded the 2nd Wave of VTubing. Certainly a Reinnainsance and something that placed VTubers in public (internet) view again.
    with the 3rd wave gathering international attention, once again, through companies like Nijisanji and Hololive, closer to the pandemic time.

    • @kubomagico8853
      @kubomagico8853 Год назад +1

      Kizuna Ai debuted on November 2016 and started to get popular in Japan and the rest of the world in 2017
      She is also the first to describe herself as a Virtual RUclipsr, thus making the previus "Vtubers'' be only for technicality

  • @codenameenshrimp
    @codenameenshrimp Год назад +2

    While i don't follow Sora (or many of the JP/ID girls) very closely and watch their streams, i do try to keep tabs on some of the stuff they are doing though clips, clippers however are however kinda iffy, while many are pretty good about their translations and context, there are several who have been called out for inaccurate/rushed translations that send a different message, or excluding some context that changes the subject ... you ask around im sure you will get a list of names, same goes for "Informational" channels like Depressed Nousagi, i personally watch some of his content but only to get a better grasp on a situation i likely already heard/watched another video on ... sorry bit of tanget there, i enjoy watching the girls do what they do, from being cute, to being an absolute menace and all the shenanigans they get up to in minecraft, or rust, or the other shared servers they have
    on a better note in-game sora is someone who "Prints Healing" the she can play more offensively cause she can easily regain her HP in a matter of seconds, especially with the build you had going (nurse horns, bandage, full meal, idol outfit) that being said ALL characters have 1 main weapon, 1 special, and 3 skills, if i remember correctly only ONE character (as of 0.6 update) has a skill that CAN be negative (one of Ollies, you will see her later, ID Gen 2) and on the note of skills, you can see what each level up option is by looking in the top right of its specific box, the options i believe are
    Weapon (multi hit), Weapon (melee), Weapon (ranged)
    Item (defesive), Item (offesive), Item (utility)
    Stat-up, Skill, Consumable
    the different options within Weapon and Item are denoted by a symbol next to Weapon/Item
    finally i guess (kinda long one today) Cause i don't wanna spoil too much (unless you ask me to) the collab pull-out panel within the level up screen just gives you a cheat sheet of the colabs you know, there is another way to look at it in the pause menu if you want to do it between level ups. With that said a Golden Anvil is dropped sometime after a collab becomes available, usually by getting 2 weapons that collab to level 7 each ... i recommend trying out new weapons, while it can be comforting to stick to what ya know, there are a lot of really fun collabs to enjoy ... and as far as i know almost everything, if not everything in this game is a reference to something related to either the girls themselves or the community so that MIGHT help, but will make more sense when you find them honestly

    • @nemoisnobody
      @nemoisnobody  Год назад +2

      I'm learning. Had to go through a few clips to learn a bit. Translation can be tricky, so it helps to watch the same clip twice (each from different clippers) at times to get the true context. It's easy to lose a lot of time watching clips!
      I saw Sora's potential in this game! The right build might potentially allow you to beat a stage AFK!
      And don't worry about being too wordy! I'm new to this Hololive stuff, so any info is good info! I'll definitely be exploring my options more as I progress!

  • @iKeks99
    @iKeks99 Год назад

    So glad that you gave a bit of background info on who sora is, your video has such positive vibes!

    • @nemoisnobody
      @nemoisnobody  Год назад

      I try. I'm not too well versed in Hololive, or VTubers in general, so I try to look into them a bit before a record one of these. Wasn't expecting Sora's story to hit me as hard as it did!

  • @ODDnanref
    @ODDnanref Год назад +1

    I am actually surprised bomb does not collab with lava bucket. PekoMiko is an explosive duo and they were friends way before Hololive (unless I am misremebering).

  • @VampyrMygg
    @VampyrMygg Год назад +5

    Just for your info, Depressed Nousagi is a bit of ... less popular guy among a lot of the hololive community, as he basically had a patreon where he sold images of the talent behind the characters, which was seen as being pretty scummy.

    • @ero-senninsama1734
      @ero-senninsama1734 Год назад +3

      its okay, he apologized and doesnt do that anymore. He recieved the scorn and learned the lesson. Doesnt mean the videos he does hold fake information either.

    • @VampyrMygg
      @VampyrMygg Год назад +11

      @@ero-senninsama1734 It's more for info, in case he gets reactions to mentioning him, not everyone forgave him, so he can be a sore topic at times still. So they can make up their own mind about Depressed Nousagi, while at least being aware there could potentially be negative attitudes.

    • @nemoisnobody
      @nemoisnobody  Год назад +4

      Thanks for the info. I don't want to shake up the hornet's nest....

    • @pablosaorinrodriguez2416
      @pablosaorinrodriguez2416 Год назад +3

      @@nemoisnobody even so his videos are the best when you want to get some info from the girls, so you chose if you want to watch them, i still do since he really is passionate about Vtubers, does a lot of analyzing and puts a lot of effort and research in his videos. But yeah he did some scummy things, even if he apologized for it.

  • @ero-senninsama1734
    @ero-senninsama1734 Год назад +1

    25:28 She is a very cute streamer, soft spoken, that just embodies Comfy Streamer, as she treats everyone with love and care and accepts the teasing from chat in cute manners. Just like her Skillset in Holocure, she has this healing aura capable of making you feel cozy wherever you may be. She has an amazing voice as well, and has mastered the "Idol Step" move for her dances.

  • @freiscelces7246
    @freiscelces7246 Год назад

    I am late again. Now, it looks like other people already said what I want to say. I don't know much about Sora either, so I can't provide more information about her background. However, I will try to cover her as much as I could.
    About her story
    -She got a few nicknames from her fanbase like 'Soda-chan' or 'Sofa-chan' or 'Sora-saurus'. How her nickname came to be is unknown for me. Unfortunately this aspect of her did not get reference in this game. However, in Idol Showdown, this get reference in the form of her attack. She can transform into soda can and roll over for an attack.
    -Her skill "You're the enemy, then" is a quote from her minecraft roleplay. Some of hololive girls want to rebel against Hololive in minecraft server and establish themselves as Hololive Resistance. Then when the leader of the group (Minato Aqua) confronts Sora, She just said the quote the Aqua making her tremble in fear and disbanding their group.
    -Like everyone said, her story is very inspiring. If I remember it correctly, she said that, at the very start, she doesn't know much about streaming, recording and vtubing technology. Her friend "A chan" help her on that side despite not being the member of Hololive. It is without a doubt that without A chan, there would not be Tokino Sora today.
    About her gameplay
    -You probably thought Idol Healing skill is a demerit. It is actually the main skill that made her top tier. The skill "Heal" (deal damage) to everyone surrounding you when you heals. Healing is already good, it prevents you from dying. Healing that deal damage is a step above that.
    -Ankimo is, like other pet skills, can collect EXP for you. However, I find that Ankimo is worse than other pets when it comes to just collecting EXP. This is because it also lures enemy away from you. This just makes Ankimo not moving in a circle around you.
    -You're The Enemy, Then works just like Gura's Shark Bite skill. Both lower enemy defense and has a small chance of to heal when defeat the one with debuffs. However, "YTET" only has one stack meaning that you don't need high hit rate to trigger this skill multiple times. The downside is that you can only debuff 13 targets at a time.
    If you want to know more about her. I recommend you to check "Sora receives a heartwarming message from A-chan" and Kiara's Holotalk with Tokino Sora. Kiara Holotalk is a stream, so if you don't have time you can watch clips from that stream instead.

  • @LilyKazami
    @LilyKazami Год назад

    Even if you've become aware by now, it is still worth saying just how much BOTH Siro and Sora changed what V-tubing is.
    Back in the Kizuna Ai days, Vtubers, especially Japanese ones, mainly made pre produced video content. It worked for Ai-chan after all, don't fix what isn't broken.
    But Siro was the first of "Ai's Shitennou" to move to primarily stream content. And what was lost in the Google and Nico algorithms, was gained back in dedicated supporters.
    Soon enough, more large Vtubers like Hinata made the switch, and this inspired a whole new crop of streaming talent. Like Sora, Mito, Tamaki, Mousey...the ones who built the landscape Vtubing is today.
    And Sora herself. It may seem reductive to say she's responsible for the idol flavoring that Vtubing as a whole is branded with today, but it's largely the truth. Sure, performers like HimeHina were also around, but Sora had something else. Specifically, Sora's music made _mad bank_ and everyone wanted to get in on that.
    A lot of this, though, was on the genius of A-chan. Just being a singing streamer wasn't going to make her friend an idol, so she aggressively took marketing and production opportunities where she could.
    On the back of corporate partnerships, merchandise, music sales, and concerts, as well as three concurrent TV deals, Sora set the example that Holo would follow through their explosion, reverberating into Vtubing as a whole.
    And the best part? While everyone else was rolling in 2020 Google money, Sora left her YT channel unmonetized and had only a simple membership on Nico. If you wanted to support her then, it had to be through her idol stuff.
    *And it worked.*

    • @nemoisnobody
      @nemoisnobody  Год назад

      I'm glad that Siro is still going strong. Ever since I learned Sora's story and how important Siro was, I've been checking in on her every once in a while! A-chan is a GENIUS, by the way. Her marketing and decision making ended up being some of the most lucrative moves ever made in Hololive, it seems. The way I see things, maybe INNK Music wouldn't have liquidated if A-chan had more say!
      I really hope Sora makes it to Yokohama Arena, soon. She's MORE than qualified!

  • @ero-senninsama1734
    @ero-senninsama1734 Год назад +4

    9:32 I mean, a lot of fans dont speak any Japanese. Either they have learned how some words sound from watching Japanese media, or they are just there to vibe with whats happening on screen. Maybe rely on some fan that actually speaks the language and has the good will to try and translate what its being said.
    But a lot of the time, people will watch a stream even if they understand little to nothing. Also, it helps that the girls have been trying to learn some english the last couple of years.