Thanks a lot for your videos, i'm new to PoE and i learn a lot thanks to you. I'm trying to run my own version of RF with an occultist, but that's not working as much as i would like atm :p But you help a lot.
Damn came expecting life based RF damage with Lorica. Rather impressed at it's output without the extra 6-8k es you can get with investment. Good shit Pohx
pretty nice build Pohx, you looking tanky with nice resists, and they melt pretty fast. You getting a Shavronnes when you get some currency? and since im not so familiar with the Guardian ascendancy, im confused how you got 10k ES with no shavs and a rise of the phoenix.. does that have to do with the guardian ascendancy? keep us updated with this character, seems to be turning into a beast.
one perk of the guardian ascendancy is that you gain flat energy shield based on how much mana you've reserved with auras. he also has the presence of chayula which adds a lot.
For everyone complaining about clear speed. This is a unfinished budget version. He even states that his damage isn't there yet to be able to run inc aoe. Once you get the damage up. My life-based inquisitor RF build clears shaped strand in about 2-3 mins depending on the mods. At the moment my life-based RF has more damage than this one, because of the damage I get from inquisitor tree, and the fact that I can more reliably proc elemental focus. But my build is done. I can maybe squeeze out a few more points of damage if i can get perfect life rolls on each of my slots, but other than that, its done. Wont get any stronger. Phox's version starts out at just a little bit weaker than mine and will get exponentially better. As soon as het gets to 15-16k es territory no amount of 40% inc damage nodes is going to let mine compete. He will be able to run inc aoe. And mostly what he will do is charge into packs who will all die instantly. His version will be able to do shaper. Mine will never do that. Not at my skill level. I'm now using mine to save up currency to do his.
True that this build has much more potential, but you can redo your build at any time once you get the items for it though; in the mean time he'll have a lower clear speed and thus it will take him longer to get a shavs (well, unless he gets really lucky and one magically drops early). So both have their use.
9400k. I could maybe get it to just below 10k if i get perfect rolls on everything. Chieftains can get 10k a bit easier I think, but I like pooping consecrated ground everywhere.
I also wanted to go LL RF in Legacy but when I realized Energy from Within was 100c this league I just made a lab farmer, ripped it, and now I'm waiting for 3.0 beta.
Original comment: "(jokingly) Hey this build has a pretty slow clear speed" Response: **Autistic screeching about vaal spark** stay classy POE people stay classy 10/10
Been thinking about giving one of these a try. Ive got got a marauder and a templar that were half baked noob ideas 6 months ago (you know, those ones you abandon because you dont have the currency to regret half the tree yet, good times). I keep seeing these built out of a marauder but this one seems to be doing quite well, anyone school me on why one over the other.
Hello Phox, have you considered finding some way to use Dyadus in off-hand on your RF character? If you're somehow able to use it in your off-hand you get the free chill for 1 second on enemies, and enemies you chill will take 100% increased burning damage. Correct me if I'm wrong but that would roughly double your single target damage. Tiniest problem is of course that you'd need to wield Dyadus in your off-hand so you couldn't use a shield with it. But it sounds interesting, doesn't it?
I'm pretty sure it acts as a multiplier. I tried it with my RF trickster and it definitely felt like "double the damage". And unlike curses it wouldn't have the 80% less effectiveness against Shaper. Just straight up 100% (sort of) more damage on your part. SVARA
Decent, making solaris lorica as a substitute that isn't actually that bad. I'm not too sure how much mana helps with this build but wouldn't some decent jewels other than the 1c ones you bought be better?
Well you can see that those jewels gain him alot of ES :) Also ES/damage jewels range from 3-20c so for a budget version I think that the healthy mind jewels are better than any other rare jewel. Could be however that a 8% es jewel is better in combination with the healthy mind jewels with how one of them give flat es and one gives % es.
I've been using Healthy Mind's for a while like this, but I've never been that great at math. Do you think choosing Alira Normal over the skill point would give more ES than an actual skill point? Doubt I can afford Energy From Within's anytime soon this league. Plus I don't intend on using a rare ES shield. I plan on using legacy Saffell's, so my gear's flat ES won't be as high.
I say it depends. If your currently at your skill tree while doing the norm bandits and you have either do Aliria for her mana or a ES node in you passive, you'd want to think how much that mans would give with the guardian ascendency compared to the ES you will get from the node.
There's one thing i don't understand... how are healthy mind jewels, that give you mana, giving you ES? otherwise nice build, might try it out someday if i get the 200c for it lol
as Ben Scott replied to another comment "one perk of the guardian ascendancy is that you gain flat energy shield based on how much mana you've reserved with auras. he also has the presence of chayula which adds a lot."
It would but it wouln't have a great effect compared to a Ruby flask, say you have 89 fire res, that's 11% of fire damage taken after res, the 10% reduced from wise oak would apply to that so you would go to 9.9% during flask effect. A ruby would push your res up by 6, so so almost 6x more effective
Yeah because they're separate mechanisms they apply multiplicatively, so each new source of mitigation applies to the damage that 'gets through' the last (the order doesn't technically matter). Rather than stacking together additively, like increasing max res. (Where multiplicative bonuses are King when dealing damage, additive bonuses are better when defending it) The reduced damage would stack additively with other sources of 'reduced ele damage' like the 8% reduced from Pathfinder's 'Nature's Boon' node. But those are pretty rare
Boltxhardrock they changed how auras round so I have to figure out the exact amounts required. vaal light trap is 50% more damage. just use for tank rare mobs bosses and breaches
I'm sorry but if you look at reality the amount of people you come across playing vaal spark are probably at most 20%, while i was in 820 doing rotas i saw 1 maybe 2 vaal spark characters out out of a few hundred people. That is a small sample but if everyone was playing vaal spark you'd see more.
His energy shield regeneration per second is much higher than the degeneration of the fire damage. He is also extremely tanky against the fire degen due to his really high fire resistance.
Since when presence of chayula has been in "200-250c" range. And this is how his whole set costs WTF everything after showing the POC is meaningless. "Belt for 1c, boots for 1c, amulet 8ex.........." "250c range" WTF Oo
Gsh0o i run something similare and i Use binos/chayula (normal) as Amulett i swap at Boss into the chayula and later when i have the currency i Upgrade chayula
8:10 maybe that's mean but it's true so why don't you add something to make it unique? I think Incinerate could be that unique thing no one has ever done before.
Josh M chaos is a type of orb that you can find in game by grinding... its rare and therefore can be used as a currency for buying, selling, or trading items. There are many other types of orbs you can find that are also used as currency but some are worth more than others
Generally way too risky to be worth it. Might be good fun in softcore but it's much safer to be able to maneuver as you need. Vaal cyclone locks you in place and the best defense is to be able to move out of the way of obvious damage.
Christian Bach Lorica is basicly a shavs that you remove everything but the chaos can not bypass Es. Like its the mega cheap version of shavs that you could by for like an arch until you can make the ex for its upgrade, the shavs
getting the right colors on it is hard af tho, since its pure armor, but its perfect for this budget rf build, since rf doesnt even need a 6l and isnt socket heavy.
also gonna make ur build have chayula buffed and shavs gonna chage it to use the aberath hooves for leech and crit and also because i love those boots, but could u make a forum post with the gear of ur good one i want to see it better like links and mods pls
A budget is a budget. Like a casual player's budget might be 20c, a speed runner could be like 50c, someone who just buys and sells, maybe 100c, and these guys 1000ex. One's buffet isn't the same
The sad truth is pohx that this build has way lower player input and skill ceiling than the meta vaal spark / vaal fireball builds. All you do is run around occasionally pressing a warcry. There's nothing creative about it, you're literally a hipster.
Ill have to give this build a try. Last time i tried RF was pre act 4
Nice, I love your way of playing ^^ and your creativity. You're the only streamer that for me is worth watching.
Marceli Płaczek www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/660316
Yalani needs some love too :'(
He stole the build lol. Fuck off fanboy.
Thanks a lot for your videos, i'm new to PoE and i learn a lot thanks to you.
I'm trying to run my own version of RF with an occultist, but that's not working as much as i would like atm :p But you help a lot.
Damn came expecting life based RF damage with Lorica. Rather impressed at it's output without the extra 6-8k es you can get with investment. Good shit Pohx
Awesome build Pohx keep up the cool streams/video's maybe a noob like me will be good at POE one day with this guides to help
pretty nice build Pohx, you looking tanky with nice resists, and they melt pretty fast. You getting a Shavronnes when you get some currency? and since im not so familiar with the Guardian ascendancy, im confused how you got 10k ES with no shavs and a rise of the phoenix.. does that have to do with the guardian ascendancy? keep us updated with this character, seems to be turning into a beast.
one perk of the guardian ascendancy is that you gain flat energy shield based on how much mana you've reserved with auras. he also has the presence of chayula which adds a lot.
yes, guardian converts reserved mana into es
Hes also stacking mana
Dank build. I like it. Keep it up
"10 minute Mesa" trigger. You're still entertaining Pohx. :)
"You gotta invest all your currency into builds that don't do anything. Be creative!" That means I'm creative, and not bad?? YAAAYY
Good stuff man, I enjoy your creativity. I don't think there's anything wrong with meta builds but seeing them everywhere is boring for sure.
Nice build
For everyone complaining about clear speed. This is a unfinished budget version. He even states that his damage isn't there yet to be able to run inc aoe. Once you get the damage up. My life-based inquisitor RF build clears shaped strand in about 2-3 mins depending on the mods. At the moment my life-based RF has more damage than this one, because of the damage I get from inquisitor tree, and the fact that I can more reliably proc elemental focus. But my build is done. I can maybe squeeze out a few more points of damage if i can get perfect life rolls on each of my slots, but other than that, its done. Wont get any stronger.
Phox's version starts out at just a little bit weaker than mine and will get exponentially better. As soon as het gets to 15-16k es territory no amount of 40% inc damage nodes is going to let mine compete. He will be able to run inc aoe. And mostly what he will do is charge into packs who will all die instantly.
His version will be able to do shaper. Mine will never do that. Not at my skill level. I'm now using mine to save up currency to do his.
True that this build has much more potential, but you can redo your build at any time once you get the items for it though; in the mean time he'll have a lower clear speed and thus it will take him longer to get a shavs (well, unless he gets really lucky and one magically drops early). So both have their use.
how much life?
9400k. I could maybe get it to just below 10k if i get perfect rolls on everything. Chieftains can get 10k a bit easier I think, but I like pooping consecrated ground everywhere.
u using legacy kaoms? i consider my rf chieftain marauder "done" when he got one :D
Just normal kaoms. I suppose if I can get one, that will scale me quite well. But they're a great deal more expensive than a shavs.
I also wanted to go LL RF in Legacy but when I realized Energy from Within was 100c this league I just made a lab farmer, ripped it, and now I'm waiting for 3.0 beta.
Original comment: "(jokingly) Hey this build has a pretty slow clear speed"
Response: **Autistic screeching about vaal spark**
stay classy POE people stay classy 10/10
In 3.0 when 15 minute MESA is OpOp imagine the rage
I hate the intro, but every time I look forward to it haha
Been thinking about giving one of these a try. Ive got got a marauder and a templar that were half baked noob ideas 6 months ago (you know, those ones you abandon because you dont have the currency to regret half the tree yet, good times). I keep seeing these built out of a marauder but this one seems to be doing quite well, anyone school me on why one over the other.
Low life templar can cheese all content in the game but it's getting a nerf in 3.0
Hello Phox, have you considered finding some way to use Dyadus in off-hand on your RF character? If you're somehow able to use it in your off-hand you get the free chill for 1 second on enemies, and enemies you chill will take 100% increased burning damage. Correct me if I'm wrong but that would roughly double your single target damage.
Tiniest problem is of course that you'd need to wield Dyadus in your off-hand so you couldn't use a shield with it. But it sounds interesting, doesn't it?
Fredrik Grape unfortunately an es shield would probably give me more damage and the reduced dot mod unless the axe acts as a multiplier
I'm pretty sure it acts as a multiplier. I tried it with my RF trickster and it definitely felt like "double the damage". And unlike curses it wouldn't have the 80% less effectiveness against Shaper. Just straight up 100% (sort of) more damage on your part.
SVARA
7:42, laughed my ass off xD
>be pohx
>play the very same build for few leagues
>"BE CREATIVE"
ok sir
Decent, making solaris lorica as a substitute that isn't actually that bad. I'm not too sure how much mana helps with this build but wouldn't some decent jewels other than the 1c ones you bought be better?
Well you can see that those jewels gain him alot of ES :) Also ES/damage jewels range from 3-20c so for a budget version I think that the healthy mind jewels are better than any other rare jewel. Could be however that a 8% es jewel is better in combination with the healthy mind jewels with how one of them give flat es and one gives % es.
it would be worth testing %ES jewels but I suspect Pohx already has
more mana means more mana reserved, Guardian makes that ES
I've been using Healthy Mind's for a while like this, but I've never been that great at math. Do you think choosing Alira Normal over the skill point would give more ES than an actual skill point? Doubt I can afford Energy From Within's anytime soon this league. Plus I don't intend on using a rare ES shield. I plan on using legacy Saffell's, so my gear's flat ES won't be as high.
I say it depends. If your currently at your skill tree while doing the norm bandits and you have either do Aliria for her mana or a ES node in you passive, you'd want to think how much that mans would give with the guardian ascendency compared to the ES you will get from the node.
ayyyyy I literally just dropped my Solaris Lorica and bought a ROTP so that I can do the same shit
it is creative to use mana for ES instead of ES :P and using a solaris is pretty cool.
still nice 10min mesa kappa
The clear speed is INSANE. Slow down a bit, we can't see whats happening.
There's one thing i don't understand... how are healthy mind jewels, that give you mana, giving you ES? otherwise nice build, might try it out someday if i get the 200c for it lol
as Ben Scott replied to another comment "one perk of the guardian ascendancy is that you gain flat energy shield based on how much mana you've reserved with auras. he also has the presence of chayula which adds a lot."
Ah i didn't know this, haven't ever played a guardian or seen one before i think lol. Thanks
If you could swing the resistances, would running a wise oak decrease the damage you take from the RF?
It would but it wouln't have a great effect compared to a Ruby flask, say you have 89 fire res, that's 11% of fire damage taken after res, the 10% reduced from wise oak would apply to that so you would go to 9.9% during flask effect. A ruby would push your res up by 6, so so almost 6x more effective
ah, i thought the % damage reduction would occur before resistances are taken into account
Yeah because they're separate mechanisms they apply multiplicatively, so each new source of mitigation applies to the damage that 'gets through' the last (the order doesn't technically matter). Rather than stacking together additively, like increasing max res.
(Where multiplicative bonuses are King when dealing damage, additive bonuses are better when defending it)
The reduced damage would stack additively with other sources of 'reduced ele damage' like the 8% reduced from Pathfinder's 'Nature's Boon' node. But those are pretty rare
this has been most informative, thank you
Do you get that side area with the extra 3% to aura effect so you dont have to get the conqueror's potency as well?
That and how much extra damage does the vaal lightning trap give? Worth?
Boltxhardrock they changed how auras round so I have to figure out the exact amounts required. vaal light trap is 50% more damage. just use for tank rare mobs bosses and breaches
Would you mind telling me what the gems you have for the chest and boots are?
what is the RF tooltip on this build?
hi~ what are your bandit rewards ?
how it works with rise of the phonix if it says '' cannot be ignited while on low life''?
Can anyone explain to me why he doesnt take Pain Attunement? It gives 30% more spell damage when on low life and RF is a spell.
Lmao little kids probably pissy because their "awesome vaal spark build" got one shot by chatters. Nice build.
I'm sorry but if you look at reality the amount of people you come across playing vaal spark are probably at most 20%, while i was in 820 doing rotas i saw 1 maybe 2 vaal spark characters out out of a few hundred people. That is a small sample but if everyone was playing vaal spark you'd see more.
How it works, that you are not dying from self ignite? Its seems like its not dmg you at all
His energy shield regeneration per second is much higher than the degeneration of the fire damage. He is also extremely tanky against the fire degen due to his really high fire resistance.
Hey guy, do you have any forum guide for this build? Thanks, nice video!
ruclips.net/video/rVS9CSosSPo/видео.html
if you google/youtube it you'll find a bunch of mine
but Arent rare jewels with %es better than that jewel?
Since when presence of chayula has been in "200-250c" range. And this is how his whole set costs WTF everything after showing the POC is meaningless. "Belt for 1c, boots for 1c, amulet 8ex.........." "250c range" WTF Oo
Presence of chayula is currently 180c in LHC which is according to LHC exalt:chaos ratio a bit over 5 ex.
Gsh0o i run something similare and i Use binos/chayula (normal) as Amulett i swap at Boss into the chayula and later when i have the currency i Upgrade chayula
Is this still viable on 3.10?
twitch savages! feels bad man
I don't quite get it, why does healthy mind work like that?
Andrei Nemes more mana + ascendancy that makes mana deserved turn into Es.
Stop telling about LL RF and creating videos SERIOUSLY! I dont wanna get nerf this OP build after your video.
LL RF has been around for quite some time and there are a few vids out there
Hey pohx I think this build is sweet if i find something super valuable in legacy ssf im going to retire it to regular legacy and make this character.
Bandits ?
3 points 99,9%
8:10 maybe that's mean but it's true so why don't you add something to make it unique? I think Incinerate could be that unique thing no one has ever done before.
what is chaos, is this game more pay to be OP at endgame? (im not saying it as a bad thing)
Josh M chaos is a type of orb that you can find in game by grinding... its rare and therefore can be used as a currency for buying, selling, or trading items. There are many other types of orbs you can find that are also used as currency but some are worth more than others
Ahh ok, cool, thanks for answering :)
how about a vaal cyclone? to pull mobs in the zone of death?
Generally way too risky to be worth it. Might be good fun in softcore but it's much safer to be able to maneuver as you need. Vaal cyclone locks you in place and the best defense is to be able to move out of the way of obvious damage.
from how far it pulls mobs?
Why is the Presence of Chayula so important because of the cannot be stunned?
Allan Kjærgaard that and because as low life it grants you 20% of your maximum life as energy shield which is a lot of energy shield
but yeah stun immunity is super nice (and required)
isent chaos dmg bypass es without shavs?
Christian Bach Lorica is basicly a shavs that you remove everything but the chaos can not bypass Es. Like its the mega cheap version of shavs that you could by for like an arch until you can make the ex for its upgrade, the shavs
getting the right colors on it is hard af tho, since its pure armor, but its perfect for this budget rf build, since rf doesnt even need a 6l and isnt socket heavy.
can you write down the links you are using it would be nice !
Playing a similar build but I went high es chest with Max chaos res
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bandits????
nice 10min mesa kappa
pohx you forgot to get the mtx after that you will enough damage to use Inc. AoE
t 10? ....
Why do you even lvl blood magic? it gives a mana multiplier
oh, running RF on a 6l can be good, just use Inc. Rarity, and Inv. Quantity.
you'll lose a 30% multiplier
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wait, how do you survive chaos without a shavs?
Solaris Lorica
Solaris Lorica. Read the title
#noviews
with that much buffs, why dont you try using a Mantra of Flames Jewel? it should give you some DPS
pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Mantra_of_Flames
the burn from RF isn't affected by spell damage only fire,elemental and general inc. damage.
what the other guy said. ALSO if he used taht elemental equilibrium with fuch it up cause the added fire res on the mobs
doesnt work rf is not a spell
!rf
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY helo
But what's the point of running effecient maps ( Shaped strand/mesa/Atoll ) if you have a sub-par clearing build.
$$$ and not rolling like 6 different builds and still haven't done a single map yet like I have this league
Twitch chat sucks Kappa
Voice is OOS :(
im sorry but for the amount you invest this build OR the shav one is garbo (
Just do a life version for a bit to gather $
so you rather struggle to make a mediocre build that is expensive than an actual good build :D
also gonna make ur build have chayula buffed and shavs gonna chage it to use the aberath hooves for leech and crit and also because i love those boots, but could u make a forum post with the gear of ur good one i want to see it better like links and mods pls
Budget in 2017... haHAA
A budget is a budget. Like a casual player's budget might be 20c, a speed runner could be like 50c, someone who just buys and sells, maybe 100c, and these guys 1000ex. One's buffet isn't the same
This build is pretty cheap though. In LSC the amy is the only expensive piece, probably dont need more than 4ex.
low life rf? creative? there are like 50 guys in the hall of grandmasters who did it better. LUL
The sad truth is pohx that this build has way lower player input and skill ceiling than the meta vaal spark / vaal fireball builds. All you do is run around occasionally pressing a warcry. There's nothing creative about it, you're literally a hipster.