It would be interesting to have Joe discuss the pros and cons of each. We looked at the Solar Edge as a first choice but with the problems with their batteries (recalls because of fires. I saw recalls noted for 2018 and 2022) we then looked at Enphase. The installer for Solar Edge in our town would not install Solar Edge batteries since they have seen too many failures and they are not reimbursed for labor charges to exchange the batteries. We prefer a central inverter rather than a micro inverter setup. We also like DC coupled rather than AC coupled like Enphase due to inefficiencies in the multiple conversions (DC from modules converted to AC then at the batteries converted back to DC for battery charging then finally converted back to AC for your home loads). That led us to the Sol Ark 15 k which is what we purchased. DC coupled and we use Simpliphi Amphiphi LiFePO4 batteries which don't have the fire problems (thermal runaway) associated with Nickel Manganese Cobalt batteries like Solar Edge uses. I think the max continuous AC output for the Sol Ark 15k is a little confusing since it is really 12 k with the other 3k going to battery charging. We don't like proprietary systems that lock you into one manufacturer. That ended up being the reason we picked the Sol Ark 15k. Hopefully Joe will go into more detail on these items in future videos.
My prediction next year the Sol-ark and Lux Hybrid inverters will dominate the backup and off grid market. They will even surpass tesla power walls market share.
I have installed Sol-Arks and a few other hybrid inverters. Back in August I tried the new 18k LUX Hybrid inverter. So far I have installed 5 different LUX systems both on and off grid. I have found the programming very friendly. The 200 amp pass through power was a big seller. The price was another, not sure yet how well they're going to hold up over time. Of course, depending on the application so far it's my preferred choice.
That's great to hear that you've had a good experience with the LUX Hybrid inverter so far! If you're looking for a reliable power solution for outdoor camping or home backup, I would highly recommend checking out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It offers a massive capacity, powerful output, and fast recharging. Plus, the waterproof technology and comprehensive protections make it perfect for any adventure. Definitely worth considering for your outdoor gear and power needs!
Not all hybrids allow feeding the grid, some just draw from the grid. Since that is like any appliance, no agreements and review by your power company is required. Most utilities in California no longer offer net-metering, and now credit very little for uploaded power, so not worth the cost and hassle of grid export for many homeowners. Not all hybrids require that you use a battery, but at least one 48 VDC battery is good to smooth power transfers and could pencil out to draw from a battery from 5-9 pm when solar stops and utilities charge higher "peak rates".
Absolutely. Canadian Solar was the only company who let them podcast in their RE+ booth space too but every other word was "Enphase" 😂. Barely any mention of the excellent products by the company that let you squat for free.
Why is Enphase #1? Outdated MID controller, puny 5P surge capability - 3 sec is a joke regarding cooktops and air fryers that cycle on/off - and no independent stacking for power and energy. Enphase micro inverters are outperformed by Hoymiles micro inverters by a mile in power, low solar irradiance PV production, price and reliability.
Enphase is #1 because that's what is pushed. This isn't a good list in my opinion. Edit: and microinverters by definition and design are not hybrid inverters. Reputation takes a hit.
Please inform your audience that Enphase has the power to remotely shut down any of its inverters at any time! When I buy a product I expect that product to be exclusively mine! NOBODY should have the power to arbitrarily shut down my $60,000 solar system without my express permission! Obviously Enphase has no respect for their customers property rights!
This is a good point. Enphase and SolarEdge and Sol-Ark are all internet-connected systems. If your goal is to be fully off-the-grid, Sol-Ark is probably the best choice. The Sol-Ark can be programmed locally from the touch screen display and the internet connection module is optional.
@@SolarSurge Thanks for the reply! It is one thing to have the power to monitor their microinverters - but it is quite another to have the awesome, uncontrolled power to shut any microinverter down without the express permission of its owner! Consumers who buy any solar electric system that can be arbitrarily shut down by its manufacturer are NOT the true owners of that system! Do any if these inverter manufacturers inform their customers about this serious issue? If not, these manufacturers are dishonest and unethical, and I certainly am NOT interested in doing business with any of them! They have NO tespect for the sacred private property rights of their ttusting customers! All the best to you and yours!
Saw that the list didnt even include EG4 (LUX) 18k. immediately stopped and unsubscribed. his kickback must not be high enough to have an honest review included.
Sigh! After months of following your videos I finally had to unsubscribe and block you. Please, there are people like me who wants an honest review and even me who knows nothing about solar inverters knows your list is biased and review is badly made without any pros or cons
It would be interesting to have Joe discuss the pros and cons of each. We looked at the Solar Edge as a first choice but with the problems with their batteries (recalls because of fires. I saw recalls noted for 2018 and 2022) we then looked at Enphase. The installer for Solar Edge in our town would not install Solar Edge batteries since they have seen too many failures and they are not reimbursed for labor charges to exchange the batteries. We prefer a central inverter rather than a micro inverter setup. We also like DC coupled rather than AC coupled like Enphase due to inefficiencies in the multiple conversions (DC from modules converted to AC then at the batteries converted back to DC for battery charging then finally converted back to AC for your home loads). That led us to the Sol Ark 15 k which is what we purchased. DC coupled and we use Simpliphi Amphiphi LiFePO4 batteries which don't have the fire problems (thermal runaway) associated with Nickel Manganese Cobalt batteries like Solar Edge uses. I think the max continuous AC output for the Sol Ark 15k is a little confusing since it is really 12 k with the other 3k going to battery charging. We don't like proprietary systems that lock you into one manufacturer. That ended up being the reason we picked the Sol Ark 15k. Hopefully Joe will go into more detail on these items in future videos.
My prediction next year the Sol-ark and Lux Hybrid inverters will dominate the backup and off grid market. They will even surpass tesla power walls market share.
I have installed Sol-Arks and a few other hybrid inverters. Back in August I tried the new 18k LUX Hybrid inverter. So far I have installed 5 different LUX systems both on and off grid. I have found the programming very friendly. The 200 amp pass through power was a big seller. The price was another, not sure yet how well they're going to hold up over time. Of course, depending on the application so far it's my preferred choice.
That's great to hear that you've had a good experience with the LUX Hybrid inverter so far! If you're looking for a reliable power solution for outdoor camping or home backup, I would highly recommend checking out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It offers a massive capacity, powerful output, and fast recharging. Plus, the waterproof technology and comprehensive protections make it perfect for any adventure. Definitely worth considering for your outdoor gear and power needs!
Not all hybrids allow feeding the grid, some just draw from the grid. Since that is like any appliance, no agreements and review by your power company is required. Most utilities in California no longer offer net-metering, and now credit very little for uploaded power, so not worth the cost and hassle of grid export for many homeowners. Not all hybrids require that you use a battery, but at least one 48 VDC battery is good to smooth power transfers and could pencil out to draw from a battery from 5-9 pm when solar stops and utilities charge higher "peak rates".
great video. consider dropping the music while you are talking - IMO it is distracting
Gotta add the Midnight all-in-one 11.4 now. Three huge mppt, Gen hookup, AC coupling hook-up, 48v battery connections, and pretty awesome specs.
What are your thoughts 💭 n the EG4 line of products?
I usually like your videos but the title is very misleading.
How well would a Span panel integrate with these systems?
Why didn't you cover Canadian Solar's EPCube or Bluetti's EP900? I think they're both better options.
Absolutely. Canadian Solar was the only company who let them podcast in their RE+ booth space too but every other word was "Enphase" 😂. Barely any mention of the excellent products by the company that let you squat for free.
Thanks for letting me know of Solar Surge...
Can anybody tell me of an electronics shop that can fix hybrid inverters like the PowMr 10.2?
You can try Signature Solar, but you probably are better of buying a new unit.
If its AC connected, every battery increases base and peak? But DC doesn't? It that always the case?
Very helpful.
Why is Enphase #1? Outdated MID controller, puny 5P surge capability - 3 sec is a joke regarding cooktops and air fryers that cycle on/off - and no independent stacking for power and energy. Enphase micro inverters are outperformed by Hoymiles micro inverters by a mile in power, low solar irradiance PV production, price and reliability.
Enphase is #1 because that's what is pushed. This isn't a good list in my opinion.
Edit: and microinverters by definition and design are not hybrid inverters. Reputation takes a hit.
Follow the money.
Please inform your audience that Enphase has the power to remotely shut down any of its inverters at any time! When I buy a product I expect that product to be exclusively mine! NOBODY should have the power to arbitrarily shut down my $60,000 solar system without my express permission! Obviously Enphase has no respect for their customers property rights!
This is a good point. Enphase and SolarEdge and Sol-Ark are all internet-connected systems. If your goal is to be fully off-the-grid, Sol-Ark is probably the best choice. The Sol-Ark can be programmed locally from the touch screen display and the internet connection module is optional.
@@SolarSurge Thanks for the reply! It is one thing to have the power to monitor their microinverters - but it is quite another to have the awesome, uncontrolled power to shut any microinverter down without the express permission of its owner! Consumers who buy any solar electric system that can be arbitrarily shut down by its manufacturer are NOT the true owners of that system! Do any if these inverter manufacturers inform their customers about this serious issue? If not, these manufacturers are dishonest and unethical, and I certainly am NOT interested in doing business with any of them! They have NO tespect for the sacred private property rights of their ttusting customers! All the best to you and yours!
@stephenfreeman435 You should have known before signing up to use their internet based products.
@@jab376 Thanks for your opionion! Please tell me how I should have known that Enphase has the power to shut down my solar system!
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Saw that the list didnt even include EG4 (LUX) 18k. immediately stopped and unsubscribed. his kickback must not be high enough to have an honest review included.
From what I hear, Lux stole Sol-Ark's design and is selling it under a number of different white label brands like EG4.
Sigh! After months of following your videos I finally had to unsubscribe and block you. Please, there are people like me who wants an honest review and even me who knows nothing about solar inverters knows your list is biased and review is badly made without any pros or cons
It's 2024, why do people still make stupid faces for their thumbnails?
are you signaling with your hands? that is not natural for most people.