Next try Hellbringers. They also get dropped in on the enemy. But they have flamethrowers and a life expectancy that would give a Penal Legionary pause
Hate to break it to you but i very much “give a shit” about the Endless and they already have lots of consistent lore that do indeed paint an interesting picture. Even though I wanted the Endless to be fully revealed in Halo Infinite, I know why they didn’t do this: They wanted give players a more conventional Halo experience and work on the high concept Endless stuff long term.
That ending gag is literally why my friends hated playing Halo Wars with me, and nicknamed me "Stalin". I may have had the most casualties but I also had the most fun.
That’s my cousin. Spams units endlessly until the objective is complete. Me on the other hand plays completely opposite. I had the least units created and the least units lost. I played defensively and unlocked all upgrades first then went on the attack in a very OP fashion.
@@johnhalo-ug4go hold the line? No, of course not, while they can, they were meant to break enemy lines. Historically speaking, defense have stopped to be reliable since the invention of gunpowder weapons. From that point further, the best "defense" was attack. The best way to avoid enemy bullets was that of being mobile, tactile, evasive. Making the enemy miss the target. Otherwise every hit is a lethal hit. And that's valid also on the greater scheme. You can afford the luxury of losing a line, a city, a planet. It will reduce your military power. A factory less that was producing weapons, less workforce, less economic power and so on. Spartans was intended to hit enemy in that way, striking and obliterating enemy key assets in order to cripple their chance to sustain a war. If the enemy can craft guns, they can't shoot at you. Spartans was made to attack, as like the whole UNSC military. If the UNSC has lost so much in the war, it was due to the fact that they had no maps about Covenant space, no chances to hit their military-industrial complex and instead the Covenant had Forerunner technology able to track every single human in the galaxy... a sort of transponder of every human planet... They was forced into a defensive position and by that, into a weaker position. After the war, the UNSC got and gained lots of new toys. Covenant assets, technology, intel, also Forerrunner stuff... They had the maps, and still enough workforce and military and industrial capabilities. And they was so smart to go immediately to attack. No matter if the war was over, loyalist covenant remnants was wiped out, planets was burned, Forerunner tech and locations was seized. It just needed to the UNSC to take the initiative to turn the tide and dwarf those who before was considered unbeatable foes. Even the same Forerunners or the Created adopted the same strategy, but thanks to Master Chief, they was beaten. Why? Because in all the chapters of the saga, Master Chief and those forces that follows him are that single decisive tip of the spear that goes ruin the plans of the enemies going to strike first and with max damage behind enemy lines. At the end of the day, if it wasn't for Master Chief, carrying out such manuevers on the grand scheme battlefield would have required way more forces and coordination. Spartans simply make the whole thing way more easy and effective. And mostly because they are so powered up and their mindset is so far from that of average humans, that they can simply succeed where we normal humans will not have great chances to survive.
Back when I was in the army. I was in the gamestop on base and a soldier in training came up to me asked what my odst patch meant. I played it straight and told him it stood for Orbital Drop Shock Trooper. He thought it was coolest thing ever and asked if I ever saw any action. I told him I dropped over Mew Mumbasa back in '09. He thought I was the coolest guy ever and asked to shake my hand when he left. The guy behind the counter and I laughed about how ridiculous it was. I guess the guy didn't have an Xbox.
@@Destroyer_V0 Then the Halo Franchise becomes very confusing. So Chief is floating in space to Requiem, then suddenly he’s back with the UNSC, Blue Team, and Cortana is dead?? Halo 4 is kinda essential for the story.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Allow me to rephrase. Halo 4, and everything that came after it. Doesn't exist. Much as I like lasky as a char, the rest of the game he is in is a CHORE, to play. I hate Prometheans, the knights in particular. They Throw your grenades back at you, melee is not an option since they can teleport away. Leaving you with just shooting. They then kill off cortana, AND SHE COMES BACK IN 5. THEN DIES AGAIN. Suffice it to say I can keep going with legitimate complaints about the halo series under 343. That isn't just her dur, 343 stupid bungie good. A shame, since I do like infinite's core gameplay. HELLDIVERS feels more like halo at times than halo does, and it wasn't trying to be halo!
@@Destroyer_V0 Mucho Texto, too long, didn’t read. Go dive into hell if that’s what you want. There’s nothing like Halo I’ve seen in Hazbin Hotel Divers, just Star Wars Battlefront + Tarkov + Warhammer 40K. Palworld is more revolutionary.
i legitimately yelled in anger when i read the ex 343 dev say that they put an odst game exactly like helldivers a dozen times only to be shot down i got even more pissed when i saw that they also made suggestions for darker games which almost definitely meant a horrorish flood game which I've always wanted
I always pictured ODST recruiting as being like a modified version of the WWII recruiting for paratroopers.. "Hey marine, want an extra $100 a paycheck and almost non existent tattoo and hair policy? Sweet, sign here, your metal egg and suppressed SMG is over there"
Reminds me of that interview with one of the guys of the 101st airborn. "I was told I could earn an extra 50$ a month which to me seemed like a lot at the time. But I soon found out that 50$ was....blood money."
@@Mr.RedinkI believe they also had to take out a sizable life insurance policy for their families in case they bought it in a training accident, yes, they paid extra for the privilege of becoming red spray paint.
It's the space marines vs imperial guard, the former might be stronger but there's nothing finer than having the resolve to go up against monsters who can overpower you in every way and still fight to your last breath I mean sure in 40Ks case it's for a horrible fascist space empire but yknow the bravery it takes is commendable
just like Tien from DBZ you can forget they're strong, under estimate them and then be eating your teeth in your square shaped hole wondering what the hell is happening.
@@bananananananabatman8999 IIRC in one of the shorts novels an ODST officers had to remotely turn off the radio of a pod because it failed to deploy it's chute and the occupant started screaming for their life the rest of the way down
3rd option: the spartan branch is disbanded as augmentations get more widespread and having literally every single infantryman in one branch of the military is a bad idea And then ONI kidnaps a bunch of kids to give them the kind of enhancements no one else can survive and we're back where we started
Anyone who is not a Halo fan who wants to get a quick but proper taste of the ODST. Look up the Halo 3 ODST live action trailer. And get ready to feel haunted
"The ODSTs weren't the cutting edge hard-asses anymore. I'd just seen the future of warfare. I wasn't in it." -Gage Yevgenney after being saved by a Spartan II
In the books a few space assault troopers from the 21st black daggers get captured after an operation and we're being tortured. But they mad lads in all their glory, just laughed in the face of the elites who tortured them. A pretty gangster moment among many in the books
In one of my favorite D&D games I got to play in, we were on a spelljammer and needed to take out an elf base that was heavily defended from the ground. The way we did it was to give our Dwarf paladin a ring of feather fall, a helm that let him breath in space, and a cape of fireproofing. Then we dropped him from orbit. We named the order that was founded after him the ODSTs. For orbital dwarf shock troops!
Oddly, enough there is actually a common magical item in Eberron that basically combines all of that into one thing for the purposes of dropping people from ships...there was an entire part of the old "Living" campaign that used them for semi-military deployments.
The Kilo 9 books cover the reaction of a couple of ODSTs to finding out the details of the spartan project if your intrested. I think its Mortal Dictata that goes fully into it
The Kilo 9 books are fucking awesome and it really just makes the handling of Halo by 343 even worse. Jul 'Mdama's a fascinating character and all the stuff they set up with Halsey being a scapegoat for ONI authorizing the SPARTAN program in the first place but all of that is let down by the games.
You see, ODST's are the finest because they don't get any fancy armor, super combat drugs, or special treatment. Instead they get two sticks and a rock, and they've got to share the rock.
God bless Heinlien or whoever first gave us the trope of dropping soldiers from orbit. Its just so damn cool and there is a reason why its been so popular in sci fi
The ICARUS troop transport was a real proposal for a giant rocket that would carry 12,000 troops from thr ground, to orbit, and then land them anywhere on earth within an hour. It never happened because it would have been insanely expensive, and the US already having friendly bases all over the world and a huge navy to travel between them was seen as being good enough.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC That twelve thousand passenger payload seems unrealistically large for a rocket. Just how big was this monstrosity supposed to be?
And every Mobile Infantry were equipped with power armor and IFV level firepower/protection as standard issue. I pity for regular UNSC Army, Marines and ODST.
@@insignificantgnat9334not 12,000, 1200. It was about the height of the space shuttle but designed primarily to be sub orbital. Sub orbital is a lot easier than orbital!
“Thank you halo legends for re-writing my brain chemistry” Same diabetes man, same. I am forever searching for a girl who can princess carry me. (I can bench 225lbs tho, so I’m no slouch myself)
"You cannot understand how badly I want to be this ODST." Me, remembering the tomboy PT stud I hung out with who might've had a thing for me in hindsight: "Nah, brother, I just might."
They're definitely cooler, but from a logistics perspective, IVs are very practical to have. You can not tell me with a straight face that giving buck energy shields and boosting his physical capabilities was a bad decision.
In Halo 3, I always tried to keep the ODSTs alive for as long as possible. I also usually gave the officer (the guy with red markings) a power weapon or something. Always felt good if they made it to the end of the level with me.
The first time I’ve was exposed to the trope of sci fi soldiers in drop pods was Tiberian Sun, GDI had drop pods as a special ability in that game. I think the codified was Starship Troopers (the novel,) and obviously 40K space marines have it too, but I think the OFSTs are the most memorable incarnation as things currently stand. Helldivers may overtake them if it keeps up this momentum, but the satirical tone of the game makes for a different feel, and hell, they’re standing on the shoulders of giants anyway
Elite soldiers dropping into war from above is an idea as old as the first man to throw themselves out of a perfectly good plane with a parachute and rifle to their chest. Its only expanded on since then.
Halo odst will always have a special place in my heart for being my first halo game and being my first person shooter game such a great story and characters.still mad at 343 for killing rookie in a fucking book
Before helldivers, we had the ODST. Before the ODST we had starship troopers. Man, the mobile infantry is such a good idea, such a scarily destructive idea, that it will never get its time on the silver screen or video game. Kudos to Halo for its Spartans. They come closest to what a mobile infantry can do.
He was just a rookie trooper and he surely shook with fright He checked all his equipment and made sure his pack was tight He had to sit and listen to those awful engines roar "You ain't gonna jump no more!" Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die He ain't gonna jump no more "Is everybody happy?" cried the Sergeant looking up Our Hero feebly answered "Yes, " and then they stood him up He jumped into the icy blast, his static line unhooked And he ain't gonna jump no more Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die He ain't gonna jump no more He counted long, he counted loud, he waited for the shock He felt the wind, he felt the cold, he felt the awful drop The silk from his reserves spilled out, and wrapped around his legs And he ain't gonna jump no more Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die He ain't gonna jump no more The risers swung around his neck, connectors cracked his dome Suspension lines were tied in knots around his skinny bones The canopy became his shroud, he hurtled to the ground And he ain't gonna jump no more Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die He ain't gonna jump no more The days he'd lived and loved and laughed kept running through his mind He thought about the girl back home, the one he'd left behind He thought about the medic corps, and wondered what they'd find And he ain't gonna jump no more Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die He ain't gonna jump no more The ambulance was on the spot, the jeeps were running wild The medics jumped and screamed with glee, they rolled their sleeves and smiled For it had been a week or more since last a 'Chute had failed And he ain't gonna jump no more Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die He ain't gonna jump no more He hit the ground, the sound was "SPLAT", his blood went spurting high His comrades, they were heard to say "A hell of a way to die!" He lay there, rolling 'round in the welter of his gore And he ain't gonna jump no more Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die He ain't gonna jump no more There was blood upon the risers, there were brains upon the chute Intestines were a-dangling from his paratroopers suit He was a mess, they picked him up, and poured him from his boots And he ain't gonna jump no more Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die He ain't gonna jump no more
Whelp, I know what my squadmates are going to hear across comms during mission load screens. ... Wait... I've yet to see a hellpod fail and that doesn't sound very "mil-spec" to me...
So happy you made another Halo video. They’re honestly my favorite. I got into your channel when first diving into warhammer, but Halo was my childhood and it’s awesome to hear and learn more about it.
One should remember that UNSC has wide access to incredible medical technology, medical technology that can fix most chronic medical problems that would prevent a person from becoming a soldier. So the UNSC had a lot of people that were physically absolutely capable of passing the training, but did not have the mindset, which is a generous way of saying they didn't have that special kind of brain damage that makes people wiling jump out planes on the regular, nevermind into enemy fire. The takeaway is this, you who are reading this, you could like have become an ODST if you really wanted to, because the UNSC had the medical technology to make you strong enough to actually do it.
I went immediately from this to the ODST trailer video. That thing went so freaking HARD and it came out of nowhere. Such a good ad. Man, those were the days.
My man Rookie got played dirty. Good thing I can't read and that he's actually okay and likely snoozing in a hammock or something. Mickey is likely chilling at home with family eating bagels. And Buck is busy being Buck.
0:54 For any of you not well versed into Halo lore the Spartans IIs were in fact not orphans but literally taken from their families and replaced with clones, so the family wouldn't suspect their child was stolen to become jacked up super soldiers named after a warrior people who would throw their babies down pits if they were deformed, so take that the Info as you will considering just under half of the Spartan IIs died from the biological augmentation procedures. (They were teenagers)
At least one Spartan II candidate was taken by ONI from orphan-like conditions, and the general profile of Spartan III candidates I think broadly fits the descriptor "orphan" but yeah if we're talking about IIs then "orphan" really isn't the best characterization
From an in-universe perspective ignoring fan love, I’d imagine that ODSTs end up becoming a subsection of Spartan IVs or maybe even Spartan Vs. While normal Spartan IV/Vs do normal Spartan things, the Spartan ODSTs do normal ODST things, but as Spartans. We’ve already seen some Spartan Helljumpers like Alpha 9, so the natural in-universe continuation would be Super ODSTs.
05:16 hey, the mercenary odst squad from red vs blue! that throws me back! and Cal-141...not tough enough to see her hurt, not tough enough to see her dying without crying my eyes out
That ODST live action ad still gets to me to this day. Some of the best music of any Halo game, and one of the best campaigns to boot. I love me a good Helljumper.
Gotta love ODST’s. I have a fondness to them due to the ODST game being released on my birthday. Edit: The end part though. Loved Cutter in Halo wars and would do that all the time in AI battles since I never had online play.
Genuinely really happy to see more halo content. I’ve been watching and rewatching your other halo vids which persuaded me to play through the original trilogy over the last month and a half for the first time. I was very pleasantly surprised how well they hold up
Fun fact, a functional drop pod could be created with modern technology. NASA actually considered it to be used as escape pods on stations and/or shuttles in the case of emergencies. The only reason they were never made was cost, as the tech would be very very very expensive current day
I can imagine, realistically, the ODST core remains into the halo timeline to deal with normal human threats, whereas the spartan IV's and beyond exist to take on alien threats.
you gotta check out the Kilo-Five trilogy, Glassland, Thursday War, and Mortal Dictata. takes place a few years after H3, and follows an ONI team of 3 ODSTs, a Spartan 2, an ONI Officer/Spook, and BB Oni's personal Smart AI (Like Cortana). They are tasked with fueling both sides of a civil war that breaks out on the Elites' homeworld. It shows a cool perspective of what ODSTs think of Spartans, especially when working together in the field. definitely worth a ready
I knew it was only a matter of time before we got some sweet sweet Helljumpers lore! Thanks for taking this opportunity to bring us back to the glory days! 😄
My favorite ODST trooper, would have to be Mickey from Halo 3’s ONI HQ mission. He’s the Demolition specialist, and the written blurb he gets in the official guide is hilarious. Something along the line of he’s already a little crazy for willingly dropping into orbit from a functional spacecraft in the heat of battle. Now he’s extra crazy for wanting to do that and carry additional explosives as his main weapon.
I loved the live action odst trailer back in the day. It showed a different side to the universe and the regular (albeit badass) humans that have to fight in this war for survival.
Cole protocol is my 2nd favorite novel in the collection. The intro gives a fantastic view on how ODSTs theive in urban combat against rogue innie cells.
Damn, that "They're probably not gonna be around long enough to annoy you for very long" part really kind struck a bitter chord in me. Never thought about that. Starting to see that black armor looking more like a suit and coffin all in one.
The fact that you mentioned The Cole Protocol is awesome. The whole tattoo thing was my favorite part of the entire book. "Hey man, did you know Captain Keys has street cred?"
Fun thing to know. If anyone wants to read a really good story centered around ODSTs then I encourage you to check out a fanfiction called Halo: Feet First. The story mostly centers around the main character Duncan and his squad as they go through the war. Very well written with likable characters and it stays very close to the lore. With some exceptions though they're not bad or overboard. The author is one of those rare few that knows how to create tension even though we know the main character isn't gonna die cause he's the main character. This is legitimately one of the few stories I've read where I was on the edge of my seat multiple times. I guess I should also say I have no relation to the author or anything of that sort. I just really love that story. It could easily fit into the cannon story.
the poster at 7:54 was a great item from the Forward Unto Dawn webseries and I got a printed version for my friend to take to college in 2013 Edit: extremely good discretion on ignoring the book that ruins characters we liked.
I’m glad that my long held correct opinion about the ODST having the single most badass looking suit of armor it all science fiction was just validated!
8:41 Very minor correction, I think he only killed 3 of them. The last guy was just very very very injured. And you didn’t mention this, but I find it interesting that John was not trying to kill them. He’d only recently been augmented, so he had no idea going into that fight the damage he would be doing.
Getting rid of the ODST's just cause Spartan IV's exist would be like saying the United States has Special Forces so we can get rid of the Ranger Regiment, or we have SEAL teams so we no longer need the Marines Force Recon. Or if you want a 40k equivalent we have Adeptus Custodes so we no longer need Space Marines. Surely the Spartan IV's are hella expensive to make and train, and not every situation demands the best of the best. Sometimes you need a good middleman that would inflict an unreasonable amount of casualites if you send your regular baseline infantry, but don't quite wanna risk all the training, experience, and (let's be honest) price tag of your most elite units
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Imagine a Tempestus Karskin Warhawk with bit of Catachan.
That is a ODST
I would say that I'm not quite at the castle rates of the Imperial guard but closer to that of the tyrants legion from the bedard war
Next try Hellbringers. They also get dropped in on the enemy. But they have flamethrowers and a life expectancy that would give a Penal Legionary pause
pHa deleting comments about oorah , fail my dude...
Hate to break it to you but i very much “give a shit” about the Endless and they already have lots of consistent lore that do indeed paint an interesting picture. Even though I wanted the Endless to be fully revealed in Halo Infinite, I know why they didn’t do this: They wanted give players a more conventional Halo experience and work on the high concept Endless stuff long term.
Man I clicked the video wondering “man I wonder when he’s gonna bring up Helldivers”
Right off the bat, mate! XD
Same
You Are Not Alone on that my guy
Immediately
I would like to also mention: Same bro.
"troopers, we are green, and very very mean!"
" We are dropping into hell troopers , time to grow a pair "
You heard the music, time to dance
@@preknifedammit ya beat me to it
"Pucker up, Marines. I sure as hell ain't hosing out your pod!"
“Lean mean fighting machines!”
“You have a fear of heights? Didn't you use to jump out of ships in high orbit during the war?”
“And how do you think I developed that fear?”
fair enogh.
Literally me with my developed fear of heights and jumping out of planes after jumping 51 times….
RvB references always make me smile
Hahaha so true I wasn’t scared of heights till I became a paratrooper
"THERE'S A BIRD FUCKING WITH ME!!!"
Before there was the up, right down down down, there was the “OD-O-ODS-Hell-OD-ODS-HellJumpers standing down” ALL UNITS Y BABY
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Halo wars me beloved
LOCAL UN- ALL UNITS
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Holy shit I love this
That ending gag is literally why my friends hated playing Halo Wars with me, and nicknamed me "Stalin". I may have had the most casualties but I also had the most fun.
Hey if it works it works
God damn it, kellen. XD
That’s my cousin. Spams units endlessly until the objective is complete. Me on the other hand plays completely opposite. I had the least units created and the least units lost. I played defensively and unlocked all upgrades first then went on the attack in a very OP fashion.
Glorious overwhelming numbers!!!!
The ODST spam is to be feared
Long live the saxophone playing helljumpers of the UNSC. Holding the line where the Spartans couldn’t
That is called weight of fire....
Spartans are deployed where normal humans can't even hope to survive.
I really don't think spartans were ever meant to hold the line, but they do excel at that when they are told to.
@@johnhalo-ug4go hold the line? No, of course not, while they can, they were meant to break enemy lines.
Historically speaking, defense have stopped to be reliable since the invention of gunpowder weapons. From that point further, the best "defense" was attack. The best way to avoid enemy bullets was that of being mobile, tactile, evasive.
Making the enemy miss the target. Otherwise every hit is a lethal hit.
And that's valid also on the greater scheme. You can afford the luxury of losing a line, a city, a planet. It will reduce your military power. A factory less that was producing weapons, less workforce, less economic power and so on.
Spartans was intended to hit enemy in that way, striking and obliterating enemy key assets in order to cripple their chance to sustain a war.
If the enemy can craft guns, they can't shoot at you. Spartans was made to attack, as like the whole UNSC military.
If the UNSC has lost so much in the war, it was due to the fact that they had no maps about Covenant space, no chances to hit their military-industrial complex and instead the Covenant had Forerunner technology able to track every single human in the galaxy... a sort of transponder of every human planet...
They was forced into a defensive position and by that, into a weaker position.
After the war, the UNSC got and gained lots of new toys. Covenant assets, technology, intel, also Forerrunner stuff... They had the maps, and still enough workforce and military and industrial capabilities. And they was so smart to go immediately to attack. No matter if the war was over, loyalist covenant remnants was wiped out, planets was burned, Forerunner tech and locations was seized. It just needed to the UNSC to take the initiative to turn the tide and dwarf those who before was considered unbeatable foes. Even the same Forerunners or the Created adopted the same strategy, but thanks to Master Chief, they was beaten. Why? Because in all the chapters of the saga, Master Chief and those forces that follows him are that single decisive tip of the spear that goes ruin the plans of the enemies going to strike first and with max damage behind enemy lines.
At the end of the day, if it wasn't for Master Chief, carrying out such manuevers on the grand scheme battlefield would have required way more forces and coordination.
Spartans simply make the whole thing way more easy and effective. And mostly because they are so powered up and their mindset is so far from that of average humans, that they can simply succeed where we normal humans will not have great chances to survive.
@@danielefabbro822 yes ik, spartan are the Ace up the sleeve UNSC needed and for one thing, UNSC used them damn well.
Back when I was in the army. I was in the gamestop on base and a soldier in training came up to me asked what my odst patch meant. I played it straight and told him it stood for Orbital Drop Shock Trooper. He thought it was coolest thing ever and asked if I ever saw any action. I told him I dropped over Mew Mumbasa back in '09. He thought I was the coolest guy ever and asked to shake my hand when he left. The guy behind the counter and I laughed about how ridiculous it was. I guess the guy didn't have an Xbox.
Military bases have Gamestops? Sign me up!
@meatpilot5077 joint base Eustis Langly.
I wonder if he ever figured out...
@amog8202 he probably bragged about it and someone made fun of him. That's usually how the military works.
@@eddieford9373lmao
Back in my day we didn’t have no fancy-shmancy democracy. All we had was sad saxophone music and a sense of duty, the way the precursors intended.
The Precursors are also responsible for making Humanity and the Forerunners separate species so don’t thank them for everything.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 That is lore I refuse to acknowledge. Halo 4 never happened after all.
@@Destroyer_V0 Then the Halo Franchise becomes very confusing. So Chief is floating in space to Requiem, then suddenly he’s back with the UNSC, Blue Team, and Cortana is dead?? Halo 4 is kinda essential for the story.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Allow me to rephrase. Halo 4, and everything that came after it. Doesn't exist. Much as I like lasky as a char, the rest of the game he is in is a CHORE, to play. I hate Prometheans, the knights in particular. They Throw your grenades back at you, melee is not an option since they can teleport away. Leaving you with just shooting. They then kill off cortana, AND SHE COMES BACK IN 5. THEN DIES AGAIN.
Suffice it to say I can keep going with legitimate complaints about the halo series under 343. That isn't just her dur, 343 stupid bungie good. A shame, since I do like infinite's core gameplay. HELLDIVERS feels more like halo at times than halo does, and it wasn't trying to be halo!
@@Destroyer_V0 Mucho Texto, too long, didn’t read. Go dive into hell if that’s what you want. There’s nothing like Halo I’ve seen in Hazbin Hotel Divers, just Star Wars Battlefront + Tarkov + Warhammer 40K. Palworld is more revolutionary.
i legitimately yelled in anger when i read the ex 343 dev say that they put an odst game exactly like helldivers a dozen times only to be shot down
i got even more pissed when i saw that they also made suggestions for darker games which almost definitely meant a horrorish flood game which I've always wanted
It's almost like the higher ups on 343 were bad at halo when Young and decided to spend the rest of their lives destroying the game.
@@no.notfromRDRsomething you could probably extrapolate to a large part of the wider gaming industry these days
I doubt that.
@@no.notfromRDR Wouldn't that have been more of Microsofts call? Since they get final say on what the devs can't or can do?
So, basically all current game devs?
I always pictured ODST recruiting as being like a modified version of the WWII recruiting for paratroopers..
"Hey marine, want an extra $100 a paycheck and almost non existent tattoo and hair policy? Sweet, sign here, your metal egg and suppressed SMG is over there"
Reminds me of that interview with one of the guys of the 101st airborn.
"I was told I could earn an extra 50$ a month which to me seemed like a lot at the time. But I soon found out that 50$ was....blood money."
@@Mr.Redink reminds me of that DJ Peach Cobbler line: "the system needed monsters to function. So they paid men, handsomely, to be monsters."
@@Mr.RedinkI believe they also had to take out a sizable life insurance policy for their families in case they bought it in a training accident, yes, they paid extra for the privilege of becoming red spray paint.
@@Mr.Redink TBF the Grease gun was 12 bucks a piece back then, and 12 bucks back then is like 200ish today
the UNSC's finest the ODST's
until the spartans showed up
That is until they turned ODSTs into SPARTANs.
But that feels kinda bleh, imho
@@marseldagistani1989never talk shit about Thorne or crimson ever again 🗣️🗣️🗣️
(S4s do suck ass on the whole though)
It's the space marines vs imperial guard, the former might be stronger but there's nothing finer than having the resolve to go up against monsters who can overpower you in every way and still fight to your last breath
I mean sure in 40Ks case it's for a horrible fascist space empire but yknow the bravery it takes is commendable
@@a1saucin221 they dont really suck people just hate them because of really dumb reasons that are pretty cringe and not cool
@@a1saucin221 Thorne and Crimson are honorary Spartan-2s
One of my favorites ODST quotes/related terms is " We are the desperate messures "
The ODSTs are like Tien from DBZ, yah they aren’t as strong as the main guys but them being able to stick around and still do cool moments is great.
just like Tien from DBZ you can forget they're strong, under estimate them and then be eating your teeth in your square shaped hole wondering what the hell is happening.
KI KO HO
Turning triangles in to fucking squares.
"YOU KNOW WHAT? F*CK POWER ARMOR! F*CK ENERGY SHIELDS!! AND. F*CK. YOU!!!"
I mean tien litterly does one thing the entire DBZ saga litterly his cell saga fight vs second stage cell is hes best moment
Speaking of elite units that play second fiddle to the super solders, anyone else want to see him do a Sororitas do-or-don’t next?
Yes
Yea
yes
The sisters of battle aye. The second line of second line I guess faith steel an marine emperor ju ju helps that.
nuns with guns? Sign me up!
The ODST: getting fired at the enemy in tuna cans since 2163. The can just got better. Slightly. It can brake now.
Sorta
@@bananananananabatman8999 IIRC in one of the shorts novels an ODST officers had to remotely turn off the radio of a pod because it failed to deploy it's chute and the occupant started screaming for their life the rest of the way down
Watching nearly a battalion of ODSTs just punch a covenant base to death was the best end joke I've thus far seen. Outstanding.
3rd option: the spartan branch is disbanded as augmentations get more widespread and having literally every single infantryman in one branch of the military is a bad idea
And then ONI kidnaps a bunch of kids to give them the kind of enhancements no one else can survive and we're back where we started
I know not what augmentations the Spartan 5's will require, but the Spartan 6's will be 'recruited' before birth.
ONI: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!
Anyone who is not a Halo fan who wants to get a quick but proper taste of the ODST. Look up the Halo 3 ODST live action trailer. And get ready to feel haunted
i have that song on spotify on repeat
@@derigel7662what song is that?
@@cm-pr2ys lament by light of Aidan. Funny enough, it was also used in one king arthur movie, which made me chuckle a bit.
Man, I was not prepared for the feels of this magnitude. Fantastic trailer and music, enough said.
"The ODSTs weren't the cutting edge hard-asses anymore. I'd just seen the future of warfare. I wasn't in it."
-Gage Yevgenney after being saved by a Spartan II
Odst complete an objective believing they’ve saved the day.
“SLIPSPACE RUPTURE DETECTED.”
“SLIPSPACE RUPTURE DETECTED.”
“SLIPSPACE RUPTURE DETECTED.”
“SLIPSPACE RUPTURE DETECTED.”
“SLIPSPACE RUPTURE DETECTED.”
Don't forget how the odst laugh when the Covenant tried to torcher them
Yes! I love that part in the book. Literally getting shocked to shit and just laughing
@@devildevious2646 definitely a certified helljumper moment
When does that happen?
Wait, what happened?
In the books a few space assault troopers from the 21st black daggers get captured after an operation and we're being tortured. But they mad lads in all their glory, just laughed in the face of the elites who tortured them. A pretty gangster moment among many in the books
Even if they’re not as hardy as Spartans they’re arguable braver to go into impossible situations with unpowered armor and no augmentations
To the ODST it was the most significant Helljump of their life. To the Spartan, it was Tuesday.
In one of my favorite D&D games I got to play in, we were on a spelljammer and needed to take out an elf base that was heavily defended from the ground. The way we did it was to give our Dwarf paladin a ring of feather fall, a helm that let him breath in space, and a cape of fireproofing. Then we dropped him from orbit. We named the order that was founded after him the ODSTs. For orbital dwarf shock troops!
Oddly, enough there is actually a common magical item in Eberron that basically combines all of that into one thing for the purposes of dropping people from ships...there was an entire part of the old "Living" campaign that used them for semi-military deployments.
The Kilo 9 books cover the reaction of a couple of ODSTs to finding out the details of the spartan project if your intrested. I think its Mortal Dictata that goes fully into it
Mmm. Traviss "Bri'ish" Tart...
The Kilo 9 books are fucking awesome and it really just makes the handling of Halo by 343 even worse. Jul 'Mdama's a fascinating character and all the stuff they set up with Halsey being a scapegoat for ONI authorizing the SPARTAN program in the first place but all of that is let down by the games.
They did Jul dirty thats for sure@@Calvin_Coolage
My favorite quote that i don't remember where it comes from for ODST "First to Hell; Last to Heaven"
Reminds me of one of Sabaton's songs: Primo Victoria.
You see, ODST's are the finest because they don't get any fancy armor, super combat drugs, or special treatment. Instead they get two sticks and a rock, and they've got to share the rock.
ODST's are so damn cool, I use their armor every chance I get in the Halo games
Same
Halo Wars play through when?
God bless Heinlien or whoever first gave us the trope of dropping soldiers from orbit. Its just so damn cool and there is a reason why its been so popular in sci fi
The ICARUS troop transport was a real proposal for a giant rocket that would carry 12,000 troops from thr ground, to orbit, and then land them anywhere on earth within an hour.
It never happened because it would have been insanely expensive, and the US already having friendly bases all over the world and a huge navy to travel between them was seen as being good enough.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC That twelve thousand passenger payload seems unrealistically large for a rocket. Just how big was this monstrosity supposed to be?
@RipOffProductionsLLC still more reasonable than the Orion project lol
And every Mobile Infantry were equipped with power armor and IFV level firepower/protection as standard issue. I pity for regular UNSC Army, Marines and ODST.
@@insignificantgnat9334not 12,000, 1200. It was about the height of the space shuttle but designed primarily to be sub orbital. Sub orbital is a lot easier than orbital!
My first exposure with HALO in General was the animations with Cal 141 and since it awoke something in me.
“Thank you halo legends for re-writing my brain chemistry” Same diabetes man, same. I am forever searching for a girl who can princess carry me. (I can bench 225lbs tho, so I’m no slouch myself)
I too wish for a Spartan Mommy to princess carry me behind enemy lines.
You can keep her. Gimme that space jet-bike.
Mood
I found one awhile ago but we seperated but idk if she's coming back ;^; she also loved halo
@@halone4254 that sucks, trust me I know how that feels lol. I’ve had comically terrible luck in relationships
"You cannot understand how badly I want to be this ODST."
Me, remembering the tomboy PT stud I hung out with who might've had a thing for me in hindsight: "Nah, brother, I just might."
My fellow bag fumbler
I am forced to stop the video at 10:15 into it just to say this. Pancreas, I do understand how much you want to be that ODST, because I want it too.
ODST's are infinitely cooler than Spartan-IV's and should never have been replaced, and I'll stand by that
They aren't outright replaced just yet, there is a mention of them in Infinite.
A lot of former ODSTs became Spartan-IVs…. Just saying.
They shouldn't have let everyone become a spartan 4. There should have still been strict genetic requirements.
They're definitely cooler, but from a logistics perspective, IVs are very practical to have.
You can not tell me with a straight face that giving buck energy shields and boosting his physical capabilities was a bad decision.
Ill second this the onoy team of spartan that are actually baller is Nobel team peak squad goals
In Halo 3, I always tried to keep the ODSTs alive for as long as possible. I also usually gave the officer (the guy with red markings) a power weapon or something. Always felt good if they made it to the end of the level with me.
"Feet first into hell", like a lot of Halo phrases goes hard.
The first time I’ve was exposed to the trope of sci fi soldiers in drop pods was Tiberian Sun, GDI had drop pods as a special ability in that game. I think the codified was Starship Troopers (the novel,) and obviously 40K space marines have it too, but I think the OFSTs are the most memorable incarnation as things currently stand. Helldivers may overtake them if it keeps up this momentum, but the satirical tone of the game makes for a different feel, and hell, they’re standing on the shoulders of giants anyway
Elite soldiers dropping into war from above is an idea as old as the first man to throw themselves out of a perfectly good plane with a parachute and rifle to their chest. Its only expanded on since then.
So long as the tradition continues, and in good measure, those that came before can rest easy.
Halo odst will always have a special place in my heart for being my first halo game and being my first person shooter game such a great story and characters.still mad at 343 for killing rookie in a fucking book
Never change, 343.
343 is dead they can't hurt you anymore. Given infinity is dead maybe someone who actually knows the lore can take over now.
@@guilliman1990343 is making the next game right now.
@@bruuuuuuuuhhhhbut they have changed recently.
Everyone's talking about Helldivers etc but nobody remembers Section 8, another sci-fi game that had an orbital dropping army
Before helldivers, we had the ODST. Before the ODST we had starship troopers. Man, the mobile infantry is such a good idea, such a scarily destructive idea, that it will never get its time on the silver screen or video game. Kudos to Halo for its Spartans. They come closest to what a mobile infantry can do.
8:31 also you were so real for this, RIP Cal-141
RIP Cal
Rik, Halo Wars play through when?
@@HaloFTW55 I already did one on my old channel tho lmao
He was just a rookie trooper and he surely shook with fright
He checked all his equipment and made sure his pack was tight
He had to sit and listen to those awful engines roar
"You ain't gonna jump no more!"
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
"Is everybody happy?" cried the Sergeant looking up
Our Hero feebly answered "Yes, " and then they stood him up
He jumped into the icy blast, his static line unhooked
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
He counted long, he counted loud, he waited for the shock
He felt the wind, he felt the cold, he felt the awful drop
The silk from his reserves spilled out, and wrapped around his legs
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
The risers swung around his neck, connectors cracked his dome
Suspension lines were tied in knots around his skinny bones
The canopy became his shroud, he hurtled to the ground
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
The days he'd lived and loved and laughed kept running through his mind
He thought about the girl back home, the one he'd left behind
He thought about the medic corps, and wondered what they'd find
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
The ambulance was on the spot, the jeeps were running wild
The medics jumped and screamed with glee, they rolled their sleeves and smiled
For it had been a week or more since last a 'Chute had failed
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
He hit the ground, the sound was "SPLAT", his blood went spurting high
His comrades, they were heard to say "A hell of a way to die!"
He lay there, rolling 'round in the welter of his gore
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
Glory, glory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
There was blood upon the risers, there were brains upon the chute
Intestines were a-dangling from his paratroopers suit
He was a mess, they picked him up, and poured him from his boots
And he ain't gonna jump no more
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die
He ain't gonna jump no more
Whelp, I know what my squadmates are going to hear across comms during mission load screens.
...
Wait... I've yet to see a hellpod fail and that doesn't sound very "mil-spec" to me...
@@derekdexter9075 Ministry of Truth hard at work getting you "all" the information...
Grim
@@beltempest4448WW2 paratroopers had particularly dark gallows humor for a reason. 😅
I had an instructor who is para qualified and he would hum that song whenever he isn’t shouting “airborne!”
A less famous cousin of the ODST are Army Paratroopers who field the AIR-ASSUALT helmet, itself a supposed improvement of the ODST helmet.
So happy you made another Halo video. They’re honestly my favorite.
I got into your channel when first diving into warhammer, but Halo was my childhood and it’s awesome to hear and learn more about it.
*was working on his first RUclips video script, hears notification beep, looks*
FUCKING DAMNIT!!
*throws out script*
What video?
I was actually inspired to make a RUclips video because of this guy too
Hey, do what you want with it! I'm sure whatever you do will be great!
One should remember that UNSC has wide access to incredible medical technology, medical technology that can fix most chronic medical problems that would prevent a person from becoming a soldier.
So the UNSC had a lot of people that were physically absolutely capable of passing the training, but did not have the mindset, which is a generous way of saying they didn't have that special kind of brain damage that makes people wiling jump out planes on the regular, nevermind into enemy fire.
The takeaway is this, you who are reading this, you could like have become an ODST if you really wanted to, because the UNSC had the medical technology to make you strong enough to actually do it.
21:33 That brings me back spawning, an entire army out of.
Nowhere in immediately destroying a scarab
I went immediately from this to the ODST trailer video. That thing went so freaking HARD and it came out of nowhere. Such a good ad.
Man, those were the days.
@14:50 More accurately, 343 was the Halo killer.
I appreciate that RvB shot at 5:13 Pancreas! They were badass!
I will never get tired of hearing halo legends pancreas i feel the same way toward cal 141. i will simp for her all day all night
My man Rookie got played dirty.
Good thing I can't read and that he's actually okay and likely snoozing in a hammock or something. Mickey is likely chilling at home with family eating bagels.
And Buck is busy being Buck.
I would take an ODST over the finest guardsmen any day of the week
ODST are probably more comparable to Scions or maybe Solar Auxillia, they'd all have a guardsman no problem
@@nunjabeeswaxs4686Depends on the Guardsmen, in question, but yes.
ODSTs would be a special forces with better equipment than a standard guard regiment. Probably less vehicles, but that’s air support’s problem.
@@fumarc4501 Again, depends on the Guardsman regiment, but generally yes.
Over guardsmen yes hands down. Over a solar auxilia? Not a chance in hell
0:54 For any of you not well versed into Halo lore the Spartans IIs were in fact not orphans but literally taken from their families and replaced with clones, so the family wouldn't suspect their child was stolen to become jacked up super soldiers named after a warrior people who would throw their babies down pits if they were deformed, so take that the Info as you will considering just under half of the Spartan IIs died from the biological augmentation procedures. (They were teenagers)
All true. Thanks for telling the all the little zoomers what's up
At least one Spartan II candidate was taken by ONI from orphan-like conditions, and the general profile of Spartan III candidates I think broadly fits the descriptor "orphan" but yeah if we're talking about IIs then "orphan" really isn't the best characterization
@@cryofsolace4840 yeah most Spartan III are orphans
From an in-universe perspective ignoring fan love, I’d imagine that ODSTs end up becoming a subsection of Spartan IVs or maybe even Spartan Vs. While normal Spartan IV/Vs do normal Spartan things, the Spartan ODSTs do normal ODST things, but as Spartans.
We’ve already seen some Spartan Helljumpers like Alpha 9, so the natural in-universe continuation would be Super ODSTs.
05:16 hey, the mercenary odst squad from red vs blue! that throws me back!
and Cal-141...not tough enough to see her hurt, not tough enough to see her dying without crying my eyes out
ALRIGHT! Good to see these guys get some well-deserved recognition. Enjoying your content sir
That ODST live action ad still gets to me to this day. Some of the best music of any Halo game, and one of the best campaigns to boot. I love me a good Helljumper.
without question one of the best lore channels on the internet. keep it up.
Dude. The fact that MS execs shot down an idea for a helldivers style game with ODSTs steams my ham so hard.
Dude you are straight up one of if not the best channel talking about space people killing space aliens or nagash
Gotta love ODST’s. I have a fondness to them due to the ODST game being released on my birthday.
Edit: The end part though. Loved Cutter in Halo wars and would do that all the time in AI battles since I never had online play.
Odst and Spartans getting all the media reception while Marines and the army out here fighting for their lives
Genuinely really happy to see more halo content. I’ve been watching and rewatching your other halo vids which persuaded me to play through the original trilogy over the last month and a half for the first time. I was very pleasantly surprised how well they hold up
Best thing in this video cal_141 my beloved
In halo wars 1 they call themselves Hell Jumpers
5:12 monty oums depiction of the ODSTs was absolutely goated
Love your Warhammer content but can’t say I haven’t missed the Halo stuff. Clicked the second I saw the Notification
HELL JUMPER HELL JUMPER!!!
WHERE YOU BEEN!!?
STRAIGHT TO HELL AND BACK AGAIN!!!!
WHEN I DIE PEASE BURY ME DEEP! PLACE MY MA5 DOWN BY MY FEET!
Always love the Halo Lore stuff. Made me start reading the books. Looking forward to any more in the future.
Your sense of humor is amazing lmao
Fun fact, a functional drop pod could be created with modern technology. NASA actually considered it to be used as escape pods on stations and/or shuttles in the case of emergencies. The only reason they were never made was cost, as the tech would be very very very expensive current day
I can imagine, realistically, the ODST core remains into the halo timeline to deal with normal human threats, whereas the spartan IV's and beyond exist to take on alien threats.
I named my ship The Prophet of Truth as a nod to arguably my favourite sci-fi setting
This is honestly the best Halo content I've seen in years.
Oh hell yeah, we’ve been waiting for this! Everybody’s favorite Shock Troopers.
Mister Pancreas ,you are the reason why I got interested into WHFH setting after being a 40k fan for 10+ years. God bless.😊
you gotta check out the Kilo-Five trilogy, Glassland, Thursday War, and Mortal Dictata. takes place a few years after H3, and follows an ONI team of 3 ODSTs, a Spartan 2, an ONI Officer/Spook, and BB Oni's personal Smart AI (Like Cortana). They are tasked with fueling both sides of a civil war that breaks out on the Elites' homeworld. It shows a cool perspective of what ODSTs think of Spartans, especially when working together in the field. definitely worth a ready
I knew it was only a matter of time before we got some sweet sweet Helljumpers lore! Thanks for taking this opportunity to bring us back to the glory days! 😄
My favorite ODST trooper, would have to be Mickey from Halo 3’s ONI HQ mission. He’s the Demolition specialist, and the written blurb he gets in the official guide is hilarious. Something along the line of he’s already a little crazy for willingly dropping into orbit from a functional spacecraft in the heat of battle. Now he’s extra crazy for wanting to do that and carry additional explosives as his main weapon.
“Humanity’ best soldier they didn’t steal from an orphanage” 😂😂😂
12:08 your doin gods work here. Thankyou. 13:38 wait I’m not the only one? I like dis channel.
I loved the live action odst trailer back in the day. It showed a different side to the universe and the regular (albeit badass) humans that have to fight in this war for survival.
Cole protocol is my 2nd favorite novel in the collection. The intro gives a fantastic view on how ODSTs theive in urban combat against rogue innie cells.
Thanks for still making things about halo its always nice to be reminded people still love halo as much as i do!
This isn’t mainly a Halo channel, but I absolutely love the videos when Halo is brought up here. One of my favorites.
Damn, that "They're probably not gonna be around long enough to annoy you for very long" part really kind struck a bitter chord in me. Never thought about that. Starting to see that black armor looking more like a suit and coffin all in one.
The Ad Begins At 0:58, And Ends At 2:33.
I imagine really strong potential for a story about ODST’s in 2560 who haven’t decided to be S-IV yet, for reasons we get to explore in game
The fact that you mentioned The Cole Protocol is awesome. The whole tattoo thing was my favorite part of the entire book. "Hey man, did you know Captain Keys has street cred?"
ODST game was fun AF 😅
Fun thing to know. If anyone wants to read a really good story centered around ODSTs then I encourage you to check out a fanfiction called Halo: Feet First. The story mostly centers around the main character Duncan and his squad as they go through the war. Very well written with likable characters and it stays very close to the lore. With some exceptions though they're not bad or overboard. The author is one of those rare few that knows how to create tension even though we know the main character isn't gonna die cause he's the main character. This is legitimately one of the few stories I've read where I was on the edge of my seat multiple times.
I guess I should also say I have no relation to the author or anything of that sort. I just really love that story. It could easily fit into the cannon story.
ODST was objectively the best Halo game.
And it dropped at the best time between Halo 2 and 3.
Been waiting for THIS particular video. Hope to see more Halo stuff from you in the future!
5:18 a red vs blue screenshot? Pancreas I love you!
That ending summed up me playing halo wars multiplayer in a nutshell😂😂😂
the poster at 7:54 was a great item from the Forward Unto Dawn webseries and I got a printed version for my friend to take to college in 2013
Edit: extremely good discretion on ignoring the book that ruins characters we liked.
I’m glad that my long held correct opinion about the ODST having the single most badass looking suit of armor it all science fiction was just validated!
8:41 Very minor correction, I think he only killed 3 of them. The last guy was just very very very injured. And you didn’t mention this, but I find it interesting that John was not trying to kill them. He’d only recently been augmented, so he had no idea going into that fight the damage he would be doing.
Getting rid of the ODST's just cause Spartan IV's exist would be like saying the United States has Special Forces so we can get rid of the Ranger Regiment, or we have SEAL teams so we no longer need the Marines Force Recon. Or if you want a 40k equivalent we have Adeptus Custodes so we no longer need Space Marines. Surely the Spartan IV's are hella expensive to make and train, and not every situation demands the best of the best. Sometimes you need a good middleman that would inflict an unreasonable amount of casualites if you send your regular baseline infantry, but don't quite wanna risk all the training, experience, and (let's be honest) price tag of your most elite units