@@Sjb-on5xt So why do we still hear from British people about Brexit regret, And how the EU is treating the British unfairly, etc, almost on a daily basis? Enjoy your choice and Continue moving on,
@@nanakonadu- There no regret on leaving the EU. A decision that was well overdue. The only caveat is we didn't leave it completely, signing up to the TCA. On leaving there should've been no deals, just leave.
@jonphoenix I never heard of anyone here in the EU who wants the UK back. And also remember that it just needs one country's veto against an application from the UK and the thing is done. So definitely no, we do not want the UK back.
@Harry-tb8yo You're somewhat jumping the gun, the UK government is not asking for EU membership. Until it makes such a request (years away at least), there is nothing to veto. A recent poll by YouGov and Datapraxis for the European Council of Foreign Relations suggests that voters in the EU and UK are far more willing to forge closer ties than politicians/officials in Brussels and London are. So there is far more nuance to 'we do not want the UK back' than your comment implies.
"they've been filling their diaries with visits to Brussels" Which is not an indicator of them wanting to repair relations. The Uk so far has shown zero effort in wanting to actually repair relations. the new ukgov hasnt made a single step towards implementing the WA and TCA, have turned down offers of closer cooperation, even soured negotiations about program participations with "demands" and lower contribution requests, have not named a single person for the Uk contingent of the body supervising the TCA. Their filled diaries are for photo ops, free lunches, demands and divide and conquer tactics.
A bit simplistic. There are disputes with elements of the WA and TCA. The EU have also made 'demands', which is normal for the start of any negotiation. Come back in a year or so, things will probably look a lot warmer.
@jonphoenix nothing simplistic was said in my post. You on the other hand come up with "demands" for negotiations, where no negotiations are on the calender.
We (UK) have shown a clear intent to repair our relations with the EU. The UK and the EU have agreed to hold annual summits starting this year signalling a mutual desire to enhance cooperation. Starmer was invited to attend an EU leaders meeting back in February marking the first such participation by a UK leader since Brexit. This invitation reflected a thaw in UK-EU relations and a willingness to engage in strategic cooperation.
@@ab-ym3bf Your statement is very much simplistic because you have completely dismissed all UK government actions as purely for “photo ops” free lunches, demands and divide and conquer tactics. Yes okay there are valid criticisms about the UK’s post-Brexit approach but painting all efforts with such a broad brush completely overlook areas where progress has been made or where genuine efforts to engage actually exist. You’re statement does not account for more recent efforts by the UK to engage with the EU such as agreements to participate in Horizon Europe the planned annual summits starting in 2025 and discussions around economic and trade renegotiations. These steps indicate some level of intent to engage constructively which you’re statement ignores.
I'm an optimist, and am glad to see the new UK government make steps to improve relations with the EU. I'm sure it will take time, but any new agreements will benefit the UK and EU for the longer run.
We in the EU invest 1% of our GDP to have the power to make deals that are in our interest. We are not going to give up on that investment, because you in the UK enjoyed blaming us for all your problems. So, basically, after your idiotic government gave up its meager cards, all deals will only be if they are in our interest. You do not have the power to get us to make agreements that are not in our interest. Sorry, but this is just how international relations function. You can wait for your special relationswhip with the US and see how well it functions.
@@samhartford8677 All governments and organisations negotiate in their own interest, this is not exclusive to the EU. You seem to just have an axe to grind against the UK. Fortunately, cooler heads than you in the EU will negotiate a pragmatic way forward. There are still mutual interests with fishing, security/defence, youth exchange programme, and (probably in the longer term) economic/financial cooperation. Hope that closer cooperation doesn't disappoint you 👍
The EU made it clear that it is very satisfied with the TCA as it is right now. Therefore I don't know what kind of agreements you talk about that should benefit the EU and the EU, other than the current TCA.
@jonphoenix Security and defense agreements won't give the UK any kind of easier access to the single market. The UK government still rejects the EU's proposed youth mobility scheme so I don't know where you get the idea from that youth exchange programs are of mutual interest. Obviously they are not. Economic cooperation is covered by the TCA. Financial cooperation aka financial services have deliberatly been excluded from the TCA as it is not in the EU's interest to have these carried out in a third country.
@ I guess time will tell, but it's still the early stages of the so-called 'reset' and any negotiations that form part of this. UK-EU interests are not fixed and can change, and initial negotiation positions can soften. Let's wait and see what happens next.
I answered a question like this somewhere else. There is talk of a North American Union, it could include the UK and be called the North Atlantic Union :) Then expand the economy would be the name of the game.
An EU and UK association agreement would help massively. UK pays in get the trade, accepts free movement but can continue trading with others and does not have to implement all laws. It is the only way otherwise cozy up to Trump and become the 51st state. There are no other options.
Third countries cannot join the single market. Only EU and EFTA members can. UK is not a member of any of them and won't become that in the foreseeable future. So what you call an option is in reality no option.
@@paullarne Have you seen any economic data regarding your country recently? Please first take a look and argue later. Apparently Boris is still living in your head and telling you things that are not real.
@@paullarne Sure. Because we all know that EU consist only of Germany and France. I can asure you that there are few more countries with better economy results than UK.
@paullarne This is incorrect. The UK keeps trying to cherry pick a deal it has already ratified in government and still has not implemented in full. Their is no easy way around that. 🎉
Britain without question must seat itself at the european round table, Trade is vital for jobs stability freedom of movement security Britain must hold a referendum its the peoples choice, Relying on the US,,never Trumps a putine lover.
The EU was a trade bloc. Its now a vindictive military bloc Trading R resources for U (Donbas) has not worked. Now they face resource poverty R and the EU prospered, they had disputes but it worked. Guess who LITERALLY blew it up?
EU is a military bloc you say? And how many generals, tanks or planes does it have? Dear Peter. You are talking nonsense and making a fool of yourself. Please contact your psychiatrist asap.
Your talking about Nato silly person,,Britain is Nato,,so is the US whom created Nato,,don't think for a minute Nato & Europe are the same,,get real educate yourself, Britain is in collapse you need Europe open borders free trading and saving 100B plus per year, Think jobs,think trade,think education, that's Europe, Nato is the what your talking about,,that's a different organization, Nato is member country's whom join to create security from Russia,China,India get the picture you get educated my friend,,its 2025
I less and less like and approve VdL role at the EU. Way to close to the US and Uk and more and more “german” in her way to do things. She is becoming a liability.
Of course the UK can repair its relationship with the EU. All it has to do is fulfill its obligations under the WA, NIP and TCA and we're all pals together ain't we?😀😀
Britain needs to recooperate per year the loss of a 100B plus This will without question get Britain back on track, Britain needs to freely trade without borders,
Relations can be repaired. ‘Rejoining’ cannot. The British need to grow up and move on with whatever is left of the country.
The UK government is not asking to rejoin, which is just as well given some of the infantile comments scattered on these comments pages!
We did grow up and move on. We decided we didn't want to be in this organization.
What's so special about EU?
@@Sjb-on5xt
So why do we still hear from British people about Brexit regret,
And how the EU is treating the British unfairly, etc, almost on a daily basis?
Enjoy your choice and
Continue moving on,
@@nanakonadu- There no regret on leaving the EU. A decision that was well overdue. The only caveat is we didn't leave it completely, signing up to the TCA. On leaving there should've been no deals, just leave.
No, beyond repair.
We don't want the UK back in!
The feelings are quite mutual from the UK.
@Sjb-on5xt your country is a third world ****hole. Truly the first Islamic country with a nuclear weapon
Who is 'we'? Making generalisations about an entire nationality is straight out of the Farage playbook, and makes you no better than the likes of him.
@jonphoenix I never heard of anyone here in the EU who wants the UK back. And also remember that it just needs one country's veto against an application from the UK and the thing is done. So definitely no, we do not want the UK back.
@Harry-tb8yo You're somewhat jumping the gun, the UK government is not asking for EU membership. Until it makes such a request (years away at least), there is nothing to veto. A recent poll by YouGov and Datapraxis for the European Council of Foreign Relations suggests that voters in the EU and UK are far more willing to forge closer ties than politicians/officials in Brussels and London are. So there is far more nuance to 'we do not want the UK back' than your comment implies.
"they've been filling their diaries with visits to Brussels"
Which is not an indicator of them wanting to repair relations. The Uk so far has shown zero effort in wanting to actually repair relations. the new ukgov hasnt made a single step towards implementing the WA and TCA, have turned down offers of closer cooperation, even soured negotiations about program participations with "demands" and lower contribution requests, have not named a single person for the Uk contingent of the body supervising the TCA.
Their filled diaries are for photo ops, free lunches, demands and divide and conquer tactics.
A bit simplistic. There are disputes with elements of the WA and TCA. The EU have also made 'demands', which is normal for the start of any negotiation. Come back in a year or so, things will probably look a lot warmer.
@jonphoenix nothing simplistic was said in my post. You on the other hand come up with "demands" for negotiations, where no negotiations are on the calender.
@@ab-ym3bfA UK-EU summit is in the calendar for spring 2025, there will be negotiations as part of that.
We (UK) have shown a clear intent to repair our relations with the EU. The UK and the EU have agreed to hold annual summits starting this year signalling a mutual desire to enhance cooperation. Starmer was invited to attend an EU leaders meeting back in February marking the first such participation by a UK leader since Brexit. This invitation reflected a thaw in UK-EU relations and a willingness to engage in strategic cooperation.
@@ab-ym3bf Your statement is very much simplistic because you have completely dismissed all UK government actions as purely for “photo ops” free lunches, demands and divide and conquer tactics. Yes okay there are valid criticisms about the UK’s post-Brexit approach but painting all efforts with such a broad brush completely overlook areas where progress has been made or where genuine efforts to engage actually exist. You’re statement does not account for more recent efforts by the UK to engage with the EU such as agreements to participate in Horizon Europe the planned annual summits starting in 2025 and discussions around economic and trade renegotiations. These steps indicate some level of intent to engage constructively which you’re statement ignores.
Main Lesson Identified: don't trust populist politicians. Remember that Boris Johnson bus with the slogan of so many million pounds for NHS...
I'm an optimist, and am glad to see the new UK government make steps to improve relations with the EU. I'm sure it will take time, but any new agreements will benefit the UK and EU for the longer run.
We in the EU invest 1% of our GDP to have the power to make deals that are in our interest. We are not going to give up on that investment, because you in the UK enjoyed blaming us for all your problems. So, basically, after your idiotic government gave up its meager cards, all deals will only be if they are in our interest. You do not have the power to get us to make agreements that are not in our interest. Sorry, but this is just how international relations function. You can wait for your special relationswhip with the US and see how well it functions.
@@samhartford8677 All governments and organisations negotiate in their own interest, this is not exclusive to the EU. You seem to just have an axe to grind against the UK. Fortunately, cooler heads than you in the EU will negotiate a pragmatic way forward. There are still mutual interests with fishing, security/defence, youth exchange programme, and (probably in the longer term) economic/financial cooperation. Hope that closer cooperation doesn't disappoint you 👍
The EU made it clear that it is very satisfied with the TCA as it is right now. Therefore I don't know what kind of agreements you talk about that should benefit the EU and the EU, other than the current TCA.
@jonphoenix Security and defense agreements won't give the UK any kind of easier access to the single market. The UK government still rejects the EU's proposed youth mobility scheme so I don't know where you get the idea from that youth exchange programs are of mutual interest. Obviously they are not. Economic cooperation is covered by the TCA. Financial cooperation aka financial services have deliberatly been excluded from the TCA as it is not in the EU's interest to have these carried out in a third country.
@ I guess time will tell, but it's still the early stages of the so-called 'reset' and any negotiations that form part of this. UK-EU interests are not fixed and can change, and initial negotiation positions can soften. Let's wait and see what happens next.
Not interested in joining. Get lost labour
I answered a question like this somewhere else.
There is talk of a North American Union, it could include the UK and be called the North Atlantic Union :) Then expand the economy would be the name of the game.
EU does not need agricultural products from the UK unless their pickers can return to the kingdom.
An EU and UK association agreement would help massively. UK pays in get the trade, accepts free movement but can continue trading with others and does not have to implement all laws. It is the only way otherwise cozy up to Trump and become the 51st state. There are no other options.
never having FOM again
@@stephenpockley5665 Then continue to suffer.
Third countries cannot join the single market. Only EU and EFTA members can. UK is not a member of any of them and won't become that in the foreseeable future. So what you call an option is in reality no option.
UK needs to concentrate on global trade and totally ignore the EU accept through NATO!
VOLLIDIOT
@@chrismitchell4622 Fantastic idea. It will easily beat China, India or US alone. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
In what year you are living?
@@paullarne Have you seen any economic data regarding your country recently? Please first take a look and argue later. Apparently Boris is still living in your head and telling you things that are not real.
@@paullarne Sure. Because we all know that EU consist only of Germany and France. I can asure you that there are few more countries with better economy results than UK.
We voted to leave
Any Mobility scheme not open to all ages will be dealt with, with legal advice.
Farage should be like Boris and among others Reps behind bars
Implement the TCA in full before the UK talks about anything else especially more cherry picking.
Yes it's only the UK who ever cherry picks, no other country or organisation does this 🤣
@paullarne This is incorrect. The UK keeps trying to cherry pick a deal it has already ratified in government and still has not implemented in full. Their is no easy way around that. 🎉
@paullarne Again incorrect . So let's disagree and then let's see what happens. I can see the WTO getting involved in this one .
@paullarne Not with a UK economy that has basically been stagnant for 14 years . The UK has nothing to offer the EU.
@paullarne If you still continue with below par English politicians you Will end up in a IMF programme.
We don't want the UK back in EU
AfteR they see that they are getting nowhere with the Trump government the UK might be sufficiently grounded to seek a deal with the EU
There is talk of a North American Union, it could include the UK and be called the North Atlantic Union :)
We need a referendum to know what the British public want. Then move all together towards the results of the referendum, whatever the results are!!
We already had 1 referendum and 2 elections on the EU to know the British public wanted out.
Again !!! Why u didn’t have enough with rhe last one ? 🤣🤣🤣
You have had One in 2016, and the same thing was said,
Now you want another referendum ?
Just make up your minds
Maybe (SM) Single Market or (CU) Customs Union only
Britain without question must seat itself at the european round table,
Trade is vital for jobs stability freedom of movement security Britain must hold a referendum its the peoples choice,
Relying on the US,,never Trumps a putine lover.
That woman is talking a lot of nonsense as well.
Why would the UK more in favor of trading with the US than its large nearest neighbor the EU 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Because there is greater profit trading with the USA?
Jim allistair doesn’t understand anything 😆
The EU was a trade bloc.
Its now a vindictive military bloc
Trading R resources for U (Donbas) has not worked.
Now they face resource poverty
R and the EU prospered, they had disputes but it worked.
Guess who LITERALLY blew it up?
VOLLIDIOT
EU is a military bloc you say? And how many generals, tanks or planes does it have?
Dear Peter. You are talking nonsense and making a fool of yourself. Please contact your psychiatrist asap.
EU is not only a Trade Block read the Treaty of Rome and stop talking nonsense while making a fool of yourself !
Your talking about Nato silly person,,Britain is Nato,,so is the US whom created Nato,,don't think for a minute Nato & Europe are the same,,get real educate yourself,
Britain is in collapse you need Europe open borders free trading and saving 100B plus per year,
Think jobs,think trade,think education, that's Europe,
Nato is the what your talking about,,that's a different organization, Nato is member country's whom join to create security from Russia,China,India get the picture you get educated my friend,,its 2025
The way he talks... like simple things...
Better be prepared for some serious groveling.
I less and less like and approve VdL role at the EU. Way to close to the US and Uk and more and more “german” in her way to do things. She is becoming a liability.
So you are still trying to CHERRYPICK
You're acknowledging that the rest after cherry picking isn't that attractive.
Every government and organisation cherry picks when it suits them.
@jonphoenix And the EU is no more interested in UK's attempts to cherry picking.
Of course the UK can repair its relationship with the EU. All it has to do is fulfill its obligations under the WA, NIP and TCA and we're all pals together ain't we?😀😀
Yes quite, it was a botched up Brexit. All these are destined to be scrapped.
I think we can be a bit more ambitious than that 😀
Got to be 2to Tango, tho
@jonphoenix Maybe the EU is not interested in the UK's "ambitions" to cherry pick again. That's over.
Uu no
Britain needs to recooperate per year the loss of a 100B plus
This will without question get Britain back on track,
Britain needs to freely trade without borders,
@@paullarne Yes, for the EU.
What are they laughing at?
JUST GO HOME hassan
No coming back to EU he is day dreaming
Not so easy...hmm..none both can restore it back...a child play become disaster...X🥸