Why I NO LONGER Encourage College Degrees
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2023
- On this episode of The Table with Anthony ONeal, the CEO and founder of Course Careers Troy Bucholdt joins to share his remarkable journey and the motivation behind creating the Course Careers tech bootcamp. We also dive deep in why he believes this alternative education path is more valuable than a traditional 4-year degree. Troy and his team are on a mission to change the college education system, offering innovative solutions to bridge the skills gap and empower individuals for successful careers in technology and so much more. Tune in to gain valuable insights as we challenge conventional norms, and explore the future of education.
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One of the biggest problem is people start college without knowing what they want to be. Wasting time and money. Racking up loans and then not graduating. I was focused, got my BSN with only 30k in loans. Now making over 230k/ yr as a travel nurse. So college was for me, you just have to be smart about it.
You are right. It took me 10 years to get a degree in something that requires a graduate degree before you make the big money. I should have just done accounting major & became a Financial Analyst, but was told Acct, was hard. I took 2 classes in Acct, & got an A. What's hard for others, may be a breeze for you.
But your a nurse, I feel in that type of field go to college
@@madonnanewman7244
Accounting the way it is taught is hard
Few classes undergrad intermediate
Acctg I and II tough! and others BOUT
3 more undergrad were tough.
but I survived WITH MBA IN ACCOUNTING IT WAS TOUGH!
14 HOUR DAYS CLASSES STUDYING
QUIT WORK GO FULL TIME 2 YEARS
SCHOOLING just made a sacrifice to get it done..,.succeeded...
have to get right education especially undergrad..
Jb
I knew what I wanted but went the parents route. No other options given but wish I ignored them and skipped college because its a waste. Need certs not degrees! Now no money for certs
@@andreanalife that’s too bad. I let my kids take time off after they graduated HS.. Told them not to go to college until they are sure of what they want. I don’t want to waste my money. If they want vocational education that is cool w me too. Wish you the best.. look into fafsa some grants you don’t have to pay back.
He chose not to spend his money on frivolous purchases. Smart young man!
PAYING for college seems the real scam.
It depends on the degree. I got 2 degrees debt free.
Nah, paying for in state college and getting a degree that can be used in the real world works. Paying $100K for a humanities degree and expecting that to be useful is just stupid. For the record, I only have one year of college.
Exactly
I’m an advocate for tech schools. I am a product of a tech school and a 4 year. Depending on the career you want , especially if it’s medicine, law, education, engineering you NEED to go to college. Other areas such as cosmetology, surgical tech, automotive, HVAC, welding, CDL etc. you do not need a 4 year degree.
The reality is things have shifted. Years ago college was way more affordable and it was encouraged in many households, it is not so much now. So it’s simply that times are different. Never regret getting a degree, but make sure your children, nieces and nephews, those you are mentoring now know that there is another way to be successful.
Agreed
I worked for Marshalls retail store for 14 years as an associate. 1 year out of that I became a coordinator as of august 14 2022. I told my manager that I was stepping down but now I wanna find an opportunity to leave my job. I live at home with my mom and have a girlfriend. I say all this to say that I been watching this channel and I feel I will take a chance with course careers and hope for the best God Willing
Start today and you won't regret it.
You Have God's Permission to Succeed and be Successful in living an Abundance filled Life. Go Do It!
i 100% agree with education.
i 0% agree wit the educational system. If you want to become a doctor, nurse, lawyer, or accountant definitely go to college. Studying anything else in college is a waste of time because you can learn it FOR FREE on youtube and social media.
There's too much FREE online information nowadays.
Waaaaaste of time!
I can testify! CourseCareers changed the trajectory of my life and my family's future.
I'm still of the thought process that our community needs to maintain college as a stepping stone to remain competitive and relavent in the work force with the exception of having a job that has physical requirements. We do not need to give the folks another reason to put a check mark in the box to rule us out of the playing field. While college may not be for everyone, it does add value if used in the right way.
There are certain careers where college and higher education is a necessity e.g. doctors, lawyers, social work and psychology. If my doctor was self taught I'd have a problem. However the college system itself is a scam, a gimmick. Who benefits the most from the money that these colleges pull in? It really doesn't make sense to go into debt just to maybe land a job in the field you went to college for, and spend the rest of your life paying off that debt. I'm a big advocate for investing in oneself however not at the expense of my spiritual, mental, physical and financial future.
I’m of the mindset that college isn’t for everyone and I went to university and got a masters. When my parents were teens, in the 70’s, there were trade schools and certificate programs. Neither of my parents got a degree and did very well in life. My dad is a retired Chicago fireman and my mom retired from the US Treasury. Everyone didn’t go to college. We have to think about future markets and the way our world economy works. College isn’t necessary.
It adds value with a high cost, skills will always beat degrees
I believe a lot of boomers naturally have this mind set and that is fine . However if we are real … no Masters or Phd has stopped a black person from racism and discrimination. If they want to continue to put checks on us they will regardless of our education level. Respectfully, it is a personal choice some make but I don’t think is necessary for some career paths. Sometimes not playing the game and going against the traditional system is what can change your family tree !
I agree with you. I can't imagine an engineer only taking a course. Or an architect only taking a course. Some titles require a college degree. Stay blessed!
Hello, I am watching and this is a great alternative! I have wasted hundreds and thousands of dollars and still have no degree, I have been scammed and used by these universities and colleges. I have an education background and still no degree, traditional college is not for everyone. Thank you for this episode!
Completely agree! I was brainwashes into thinking getting a bachelors degree with open more doors for me. All it left me with is more debt, frustration and major regret! Biggest mistake I have ever made!!
I think things like Course careers and community college are much better options!
Thank you so much for discussion. I have been trying to get into the HR field for over 4 years now. It is really getting frustrating. Will definitely give Course Career a go.
Even though I'm 29 years old but I can't wait for my life to change with Course Careers In Oct. .🙌🙌🙌🙌🤞🤞🤞🤞
My buddy have several IT certifications. He makes $130k and bonuses. Whenever he goes for the $200k+ jobs, they ask about his degree. For his specific IT path, he’s stuck. He’s finally going back to get a degree.
But now he can cash flow his degree 👏🏾
College is good depending on what you want. In todays time it’s not the only path to success. I want to finish college to get my psychology degree and offer free mental health services to people who can’t afford it. You have to know your why for going to college but it isn’t the only way.
Yes! I just finished my BS in psychology and now working towards my MS in clinical mental health counseling. It’s truly my desire to help people in that capacity.
Exactly! I work in the healthcare industry and my degree in psychology helps me. I want to get a degree in counseling for the same reason. A lot of people are suffering with no help.
Bless you for working towards providing professional mental health services for those who cannot afford it, because it is needed for our society now more than ever. Imagine how many people - especially those in lower income communities and the homeless-will get the desperate help they need to rise higher in life. I pray the Lord gets you all that you need to succeed in your career path because you are definitely needed.❤❤
So glad I saw this! I’ve been dragging my feet on the Tech Sales course through CourseCareers & this motivated me to keep pushing. I’m at 60% completion 💪🏾
Thank you for another great video A.O 🙌🏾🙏🏾
Congratulations! I just got started and I'm 10% in.
Wishing you tons of success completing the program & landing a job!
The young man saying the colleges don’t care about you getting jobs after you graduate is THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH!!!!
Troy is going to be a billionaire. I'm calling it.
I agree with you! I see it for him too;)
I absolutely love this!
This video was 🔥 I'm very interested now seeing this video on Tech I need to get out of my job and I'm very tech savvy i am going check the courses out
I give Father God all of the Glory for leading me to your show Mr. O'Neal & to that interview with Mr. Cyrus Harbin is what started my path as well which I feel was the answer to my prayer which inspired me to take that leap of faith !!! I also have to give thanks and praise to Mr. Troy Bucholdt for being what I believe to be was commissioned by Father God to create this much needed service to the masses and being a servant leader !!! We have not because we ask not, and I asked God "how can I please HIM by being a blessing to others and this was HIS answer to me... I lived homeless in Hawaii and here in the states so it caught my attention right away when he said he makes $300,000K in tech, say what ??? I'm over half way finished with the course and I'm all caught up and course payed off in a payments plan of $150 for 4 weeks and have already have an interview and I'm not even done yet with the course... I seen the course instructors name was Trent Dressel and my name was Trent too and I knew it had God written all over it for me... 😎 🤙💪🙏
I had to watch this episode with Troy Buckholdt. He is completely speaking my language. I completed high school in 1994 and I sat out for 2 years after. I realized that I needed a higher education. I enrolled in Grambling State University in 1996, completed one semester and got evicted the next semester because I couldn't get financial aid. I was crushed. That semester that I completed cost me $2300.00 that would linger on my credit for years. I finally paid it off. My point is college is not what's up. I had absolutely no direction given to me from the student aid staff. Fast forward to 2010, I again, realized or thought that I needed a degree. I wanted to be able to give my parents a vacation after my dad retired so I enrolled in University of Phoenix. I received an associate degree in arts with a concentration in Business in 2012. I learned so much in those 2 years. It inspired me to write a song, start a business, and for the first time, learn black history, which inspired a book. It was incredibly expensive and only worth it because of the knowledge that I acquired and the things that it has inspired me to do, but I never got a job in my field amid, many attempts. It was crushing. I felt discouraged and defeated all over again. I deferred my payments the entire time because I was not going to suffer monthly trying to pay back student loans on the salary that I was making, which was only about $17,000 a year. On May 16, 2023, I happened to check my credit Karma report and noticed that Transunion and Equifax reported that the U.S Dept of Education/Gl student loan decreased by $37,765 from $37,765 to 0. The account was closed. Hallelujah!!! Still looking to earn some serious money, I have been watching you Anthony for months now and I love your platform because debt has plagued me ever since I finished high school. I too am interested in building wealth and teaching my children about finances and all things important for them to be able to live free, to become entrepreneurs and start their own businesses and sharing the option to vocational training or tech training opposed to traditional college. I have goals like crazy and it take money to do everything. I am challenging myself for the remainder of this year. I enrolled in coursecareers on August 11. I am currently at 33% completion. I am venturing into customer success and I want to help advocate for a change in how people acquire skills and succeed in landing a career. I am so on board with advocating course careers, even more so when I complete it and land my first entry level job!! I am team Troy/coursecareers.
You didn’t say what field you majored in and how did you go fro owing 2k to 37k you have omitted some major points. No matter what you do you have to hustle. Humanities is a waste of time but many kids seem want to major in that to be educated. Parents need to be honest with their kids about which fields make money. This course seems good but we know when everyone gets into something the pay goes down so keep that in mind and chose carefully.
Yes ma'am. I paid off the semester expense at Grambling. Fast forward to 2010 to 2012, the expense at University of Phoenix was $25,000. I have deferred payments until now, 2023, and accrued $37,765.00 due to interest.
@@vickiwesley3898 I didn't understand, thanks. Oh wow, Sorry you went to one of those for profit schools. Well I wish you well and it is everything you hope it will be. Work hard and you will be successful.
I am sorry you went through so much in pursuing a college degree. Congratulations on investing in yourself/your future via Course Careers training! Wishing you massive success with everything!
"We live in a specialized economy with specialized jobs that require a specialized education." I just jumped into the Tech Sales course and have several family members who jumped in! Let's go!
ENERGYYY💕🙏🏾🔥🔥
💯 Very knowledgeable interview
I still listen to Dave Ramsey
Hey Troy, loving the energy you're bringing to disrupt the college system! Your insights about the flaws in the system and the need for change really resonate. By the way, you've built something incredible with Course Careers - those success stories speak volumes. 🚀 Quick question though: with your unique approach to tech sales education, do you think someone with zero tech background can truly excel in the field? Just curious to hear your thoughts on that! 👍
This is true @dotpenji! Hi Troy, your interview with the founder of Course Careers is incredibly inspiring! It's impressive how you're addressing the flaws in the college system and providing accessible opportunities for people to excel in the tech field. How did you feel discovering this alternative path at such a young age? 🚀🎓
Hey Troy, your enthusiasm for revolutionizing the college system is truly contagious! Your observations about its shortcomings and the necessity for change hit home. Also, kudos on creating something remarkable with Course Careers - those success stories are truly inspiring.
Absolutely right! Troy, Your observations about its flaws and the call for transformation really hit home. Your commitment to challenging the traditional college system is truly commendable! Plus, your achievements with Course Careers are simply incredible , those success stories say it all.
This video is worth watching!
Your perspective on its shortcomings and the imperative for transformation deeply strikes a chord with me.
Thank you, AO! Been contemplating Course Careers for a min now. Your show for me is a verification of sorts and I feel a person or company is legit when I see them on this platform.
Anthony, this is workforce training it's not education.... there is a difference. I admire what course career is doing. Keep going. College will have its place and your workforce training has value as well. They will co- exist.
So amazing !
This is great. I was just thinking I am trying to get out of debt and i saw someone offering all kinds of ways to help people out of debt and has lots on testimonies but the whole program costs $4000 which I do not have. God is good I would rather pay $450 study get a job even if it takes me 4-5 months. Thank you again. This is someone who is really wanting to help people for I now he could be charging more especially now but he remains humble. I pray that his vision will be fulfilled in Jesus name.
I agree. He is genuinely interested in helping others. I pray your $450 investment opens lots of doors in Tech and provides many streams of income to you!
@@LornaBlakeEmpower amen and thank you
Troy is the man. Coursecareers is where it’s at.
Wait till they come up with Software engineering courses. It’s over!
By the way, they launched HR course for those wanting to get into HR as a career.
My personal success story through coursecareers is simple. I did tech sales just for the sake going through it but didn’t want to break in to that aspect of tech.
However I leveraged some of the tools taught during the tech sales training and got a job paying 70k capping at 80k.
I am waiting for a particular course to come out and when it does, I am running and never looking back.
Cyber Security
@@Enciphered_deciphered Software engineering. A little bird whispered to my ears and told me that it’s coming soon. Like next month soon.
Congratulations!
Thanks a million Anthony and Troy... I was thinking about this subject of going back college the whole yesterday, BUT being someone who follows you closely and then thinking of the DEBT Than return college was gonna bring....I slept off thinking, then waking this morning this video just pop up the moment I hit RUclips, Now I caught the vision! thanks brothers ....May God bless and blow your minds as you continue to carry the burdens on Humanity 🙏😊😊😊😊
Great interview! 😊 He’s right and his ebook “The Lean Career” shows the decades old history of higher education in the US. Very informative !
I just joined Coursecareers Yesterday personally I see difference . it is very valuable.
Thanks again.
Oh he lives on the beach in Cancún overlooking the Caribbean? That explains the tan!!! 😂
Inspiring and thought provoking content! We are here for it 🙌🏾
Love from Trinidad and Tobago ❤🇹🇹
The college system surely is flawed. While I am not completely against the college system, it has big issues:
-Many people are having issues getting a career that matches their field of study even after graduating college, plus they have crazy expensive debt to pay off.
-Most of those college classes are a waste of time to do, many of them already taken for free in elementary/middle/high school.
-The classes one should take in college should only be ones that directly resonates with a student's career of choice...but many students take courses they have to repay with interest-accumulating debt, all which have nothing to do with helping them thrive in their career of course.
Some of the unnecessary classes are built into the curriculum. Such a shame.
True true. I took guitar, painting and other classes that I enjoyed but only took to fulfill a pre requisite for my AAS
I need the bookkeeping course !!
It’s settled! My kids will do course careers…..but me first! 😉 lol
- single mom of three
Excellent content. Regarding bookkeeping, where can I locate that information on the site. Currently not seeing that as an option?
It’s great you’re entering the bookkeeping space. Shoot, I need to hire a bookkeeper. Problem is, I have to train these fresh college grads. A lot of bookkeeping is a combo of knowing the tech and knowing accounting language and being able to communicate effectively with the client.
His ideas are genius. I'm amazed at how he's structured courses & tuition to help a ton of people including minorities break into Tech & make 6 figures! I thought he was way older than 25 😮
CourseCareers is the best!
What I find is yes the college degree gets you in the door, you can interview well, but when it comes to choosing a candidate for a job sometimes they choose the other candidate stating they, “have more experience.” Especially in regions where black people are a minority.
I have been in group interviews where they say a candidate didn’t, “fit the culture.” Some places a weeding US out and using these key strategies.
These days, its a lot of who you know. While qualifications are important, how I landed one of my jobs in the past is I knew one of the managers. Its interesting where things are going
I absolutely agree. I’m a college student who want hands on experience for the career that I’m aiming for … but it said I need a degree and take state tests and don’t offer internships and on top of that the ones that do.. Do not pay , but want me to work full time 🤦🏾♀️
Crazy they want you to do all that and all you’re trying to do is get your feet wet and get some experience
@@CheefwitKong EXACTLY meanwhile I have to put other opportunities on hold because of my school schedule. My family told me to work around my school schedule…. That’s not the best advice at all, meanwhile my debt is racking up like crazy .
I did an unpaid internship this summer. It was for 200 hrs. My next internship is going to be a paid one.
@@cecec9403 everyone’s situation is different if that works for you go get it
@@cecec9403 I wish u the best🙌🏾🙌🏾
I have two degrees bachelors (2012) and masters (2014) and I could never get a job in my qualified field because I’m over qualified
God bless Corey for helping and serving people!
The College system is a big Scam!
I’d date him I work from home and live in Mexico 😂😂 sound like a perfect match
😂
I'm a 63-year-old married man that is totally debt-free. I did earn a college degree in Human Resource Management. The degree never helped me enter into the Human resource field. I thought because I had human resource experience in the U.S. Army it would help. However military jobs don't always match up to the civilian sector. I worked for a major cable company as a Business Customer Service Technician, AKA call center. Would Course Careers be worth doing for someone my age?
I went to college in 1990. I knew no other way to become a computer programmer at the time. Freshman year was mainly general classes for everyone. That was a waste of money. Sophomore year I started some tech classes. Looking back freshman year seemed to be a waste for what I was trying to do. I had an internship every summer in the IT department of an insurance company. I felt I was really learning what I wanted to do during my summer internships. I was offered a job by that company going into my senior year. My professors were good but learning from people doing the job was best for me. I was in that career for over 10 years until I decided to stay home with my kids. My son is brilliant. Very smart. That is not just my opinion. I heard this from his teachers. He graduated high school and works as a cook in a restaurant. He is not sure what he wants to do. He knows he does not want to go to a 4 year college and go into debt. He completed Dave Ramsey's online money course for high schoolers.
I signed up…
There will always be college because most people do not complete self-directed study programs. People love being told what to do because we have not been taught to trust ourselves or seek real knowledge. We will always need workers. No shade.
Yall women better stop judging a guy by where he is especially when he has vision and hard work on his side. Both of these guys are sitting pretty now.
LOVED THIS EPISODE !! Phew them ex girlfriends must be sad rn :/
Me going to college was a waste of time and money.
Course Careers or Bethel Tech?
Definitely there are careers that require you going to college for but I agree a lot of jobs just require on the job training or certain courses. But college education system needs an overhaul.
With bookkeeping becoming so heavily automated (replaces human labor), I would rethink that before spending thousands on a certification.
I might be switching my career out of teaching!! 😂
Many companies still ask for a four-year degree on their job postings.
The cost is outrageous but the main problem with "college" is the wasted time and money on courses that have nothing to do with your job field... I went to trade school and every class (and 100% of the curriculum) was geared toward my job field. Even if you study for a certain field in college you're weighed down by classes you don't need and you're not half as prepared as you should of been even with a masters degree
I will say that my income doubled ehen i got my degree. But i did get some entry level work experience in various industries so thay helped as well. I also got a business and a stem bachelors.
I’m packing my bags. WHAT. How did I not know about the tax savings too.
Does course COURERER work for people in Canada?
I really want to become a tax advisor and expert in the industry. Would love to also help advise small accounting practices. Help folks who are great with numbers and help folks who are scared of numbers.
This must be a sign
My other issue right now is that I am the sole income owner in my two income household since my husband is back in school to become a doctor. But I currently take 90% of my business profits home. I can’t grow that way. I think getting the job will help me restructure that.
Facts
The reason why people don't have the experience when they graduate is because most places don't offer a paid internship/externship to help pay off students pay off debt and give them the experience they need!! They expect them to do an unpaid internship/externship or volunteer for the experience. That may work for those who can do that,but most college students have families and that can't volunteer for experience.
Anthony, I am still in school and my student loan is 25k. It was much more but i came across one of your videos and went ahead and paid off the ones that were accruing interests. How can I pay off the 25k quickly? I'm hoping to pay off as much by the time I graduate.
Well we will see. From what I’m hearing if they have the market on jobs the price is gonna go up. Never trust a salesman.
Is this cold calling For entry level tech jobs
Hi, Is Course Careers accredited?
Anyone knows anyone doing this part time and their experience
Annihilating the wicked way college is done....sounds like a David vs. Goliath mission
I agree degrees are a scam if you ask me - however…. Depending on the type of job/career you are interested in … unfortunately a degree is needed to even apply for the position. So that’s the only downfall.
College is a business. It's not about education it's about making money and if you do some research you will learn alot of colleges are non profit.... They dont pay taxes on all that tuition or dorm money. Read it again
Making 150k plus given a company Tesla. No college.
Congratulations but ....Your the minority
Why say this without sharing your journey? You know people want to know.
@@please150 Hard working since high school, the pay - off at the beginning isn't money, it's job training. Apply to companies that have the best training in your field.
@deewest1472 College doesn't unlock human potential...
@@deborahbonner476 I never said it did...but not everyone with no college makes 100k plus.... actully that puts you in the top 30% of the country.
I live in the Caribbean and this video makes me a little sad 🥲
Why? No careers overseas?
@MrsSparkle not exactly, I'd want to expand my offerings beyond the Caribbean and these programmes don't prioritize placing employees who originate outside the US. Plus, the social media platforms don't give us access to all of their features so I can't in good conscience offer social media marketing services to US businesses.
College is good for some it’s not for others….that’s it!!!
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TELL THAT TO THE ELITE IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN....
TECHNOLOGY CHANGES YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH BUT U NEED A BASE PLATFORM...STILL COMES DOWN TO FINANCE BANKING ACCOUNTING LAW TECH CAREERS SALES ETC...
JB ok
@Hit-me-uppp
LOOK DON'T FOOL YOURSELF...
society would never advance even with technology if there was no EDUCATION
MODEL TO GO BY...the key is getting the right education business engineering medical law finance tech
Etc..,.THE RIGHT EDUCATION FORMAT
WITH TECH ALIGNED WITH THAT...because technology keeps changing every 3 to 5 to 10 years...
MUST keep up. TECH SALES IS A
START THOUGH....
JB.ok
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Parents are better off investing in a franchise or helping their kids start up a business - better ROI then college degrees I think.
Don’t get me wrong - I went to college and work in IT and freelance (just like extra money) if I didn’t go debt free I’d just be set back net worth wise.
I only encourage college & have always encouraged college if the job requires the degree for employment. I don't want to see any boot camps for teachers, nurses, doctors, lawyer, etc.. That would be dangerous. Some things must be specialized training.
I don’t think this show was advocating that everyone skip college. This path’s for tech sales, bookkeeping & HR for now. The guy said he’s working on expanding the fields and this is an excellent idea. Why waste 4 years in college with 100k plus in debt to be a bookkeeper when you can just train to be one in a couple of months for less than $500. It’s a great idea. Even college graduates can get value from the training, if having problems getting jobs.
No one has ever spent $100k on a degree in bookkeeping. Bookkeeping has always been offered as a certification or an associate degree at a community college. Also, you don't have to go $100k in student loan debt to obtain a degree. I have 2 college degrees & I got them for almost 90% free. @@oyamsbabe4028
This is great because at the end of the day THE END JUSTIFYS THE MEANS.
No one can ever clearly explain why college is SO expensive. Ijs
shoutout khan academy 😭😭
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