@@Enlyien yeah if you pay attention to the clips you see their names as well as other Friends of Shenpai a lot too. For that matter the person he pulls into the pit at the beginning IS Shenpai's own Voxer
WHM: endless flashbang (Holy) + " I swear Benediction went off" SCH: ground pound all days + "where the heck is my fairy" AST: everybody get the card + "stand in my (barely visible) Earthly Star!!!" also "WoW ruined it for me" I feel I need a lot of context here.
Healing in WoW is a high-stress job; Blizzard's idea of "challenge" is to throw out loads of unavoidable damage alongside avoidable mechanics - so unless the group is heavily overgeared for what you're running you have precious little time to anything BUT heal/shield. One lag spike can mean someone goes splat. Also you tend to be the first person who gets bitched out in chat when things go wrong.
Healing is actually very easy. The problem is when you are new you assume everything is your fault(and so does everyone else who doesn't heal). You can't heal stupid though. If everyone is doing the mechanics somewhat correctly then healing is super simple. On wall 2 walls or harder content it becomes about timing. For pulls judge how fast tanks health is dropping and heal appropriately. For harder shit watch the bosses cast bar and the main tanks life. The rest of the time you are just casting your one DPS spell and keeping up a dot
Granted as a new healer you can be ridiculously over powered. capable of surviving long enough to ressurect you entire light party in the thousand maws by running away and returning when the 5 separate mob groups they pulled went home. How did they pull 5 groups? Dps went 1 wa, and Tank went the other for a triple pull. And yes I was having a panic attack the entire time because herding cats is not in the healers job description. That is the tanks job by shining a nice laser pointer of distracted enemies at where everyone should hit.
Im just a level 27 glad, but i ran a few dungeons with newer problems and always find some good words for the fellow healers. I rather think anyone taking as my fault even if they run into the mobs themselves and keep pulling more then i can take on so far q.q
This accurately describes how WoW raids go, at least back when I played. Then again, but in those days, the other healers sometimes proved to be an even bigger problem
I've learned not to trust healers who leave me at 50% and think that it's ok after getting PTSD from being rezzed 4 DIFFERENT times INTO 4 DIFFERENT party damage abilities by the healers during my very first run of Titania
I'm one of those healers who thinks you should heal and dps. The way I see it, I can't trust another healer to heal and dps, so I might as well do it. I've been a healer main since base ARR and stuck with it through each expansion. Gotta love that insta que. Side note, I use the 2b thigh glam on my healer... I get quite a few glances. Guess they have never seen a male Aura in a dress, mesh stockings and heals (big props to SE for letting male characters wear the outfit.)
I love healing in FFXIV. It allows me to kill murder death anything I want as long as everyone's still standing. C'mon, I don't want you dead - you're my insurance policy against the big evil thing there that we're fighting. Which can't see now because of my HOLY light... but since you do need a heal... FEED THE BLOOD LILIES... I'm fine.
You forgot to throw your DoT in.. wait... You only press that at the beginning of your glare spam because the target is usually dead before it drops off
I recently had a bad experience as a healer in the Tam Tara Deepcroft when the tank wouldn't put his tank stance on even after being told, I contemplated murder.
Solution to that is don't heal them until they turn it on. Heal nobody as without the tank stance you'd get 100% of the aggro from a single spell. If they bitch and whine tell them "I heal tanks and DPS that are doing their jobs and we have a wanna be DPS in here not doing their job"
There there, I too have contemplated allowing my tank to die multiple times because they were being stupid. We can’t cure stupid, so we just kicked him off the party and waited for a new tank.
I have watched several people do reactions to this video and your shocked reaction, complete with wide eyes darting from side to side, is my favorite reaction to that crazy bit at the start. Also you almost fell out of your chair at the "slapping the bitch who made the boo boos" bit. Wonderful. I love watching you dance along with Jocat's barding. He almost killed you with that livestreaming comment, didn't he?
Dark Knights have amazing mitigation especially with The Blackest Night. Pair that with good healers and you'd be surprised how much BS you can survive even if you keep getting vuln stacks xD
Best way to test if you are good for trying to play healer. Go play Team Fortress 2 as the medic in Valve servers. If you can go 24 hours, broken up as needed for things like sleep and food and such, WITHOUT spewing toxic at your team, you should be able to handle the much friendlier FFXIV crowd as a healer.
DDs (standing in AoEs again and again): Heal me god damit! Healer: Sure mate *proceeds to "rescue" DD into the bottomless pit* Blackmage (standing in AoEs again and again): Heal me god damit! Healer: Sure *proceeds to use every healing spell available instantly*
I started as a white mage, and to anyone coming from wow I would always recommend typing that. "Hey guys! I'm new to ffxiv and healing in this game, I usually play [insert mmo or other dungeon crawler] so if I mess up I do apologise." if they are decent humans they should be similar to respond with a variant of "no worries, just remember that you can use a dot here and there in order to help us kill the group quicker. then we all heal." I once had a dragoon pull ahead of me [a paladin at the time] and bring everything but the boss to me and expect me to tank it with a brand new sprout. the chat log went something like this "dude why didn't you tank?" "OH! that's why you ran ahead of the tank, pulled everything, then ran back to the tank like a kid who picked a fight he can't win and has to hide behind his big brother for help?" "yes, you pull wall to wall" "not with a brand new sprout who hasn't played any mmo, don't res him [insert healers character name], he needs to learn not to be an off tank." "F!$@ You!" "I mean, you looked like you enjoyed it with all those strong monsters." [I'm a sarcastic ass I know.] If the healer is new to FF, I often try and pull one group at a time [I now kinda main paladin and gunbreaker, haven't touched warrior since 32.] and I know some people hate when tanks do that, but that might be because the healer is new to the duty or I see that this is someone's first time doing it. As such, I will do it slow, let them talk about the dungeon, and I will not pull the boss until I have briefed them on the base mechanics, sorry Lancer, but I won't pull because you scream at me "Go! Go! I'm pulling if you don't pull! Go!" [wowcrendor was so funny back then.] anyway, rant over, I love his vids, and yeah I'm commenting on something a year old, but this is how I adapted to be a healer in ffxiv and how I, as a tank, help the new healers.
I can mostly speak for healer in this case, while I know it's not for everyone but slowly easing new healers into wall to wall pulls is still a good idea by taking a group, see how they do and add more mobs to the pile. Ofc. let them feel welcome and stop when they say you go to fast but still raise the stakes so they can build up the skill to learn which cooldowns to use to what sittuation. I can only imagine it's somewhat the same with new tanks, the more you pull the better you learn how to space your cooldowns especially tell new tanks that even arms length is a good cooldown to use as it slows auto attacks down (many forget that or didn't read the tool tips) overall, you right, 's better to be a nice person than to force people into your style of play but then again, it's a group game and wasting time in avoidable wipes is wasted time for everyone. Still not to say that wipes are okay and can happen especially as they are a part of the learning process.
@@MazeeKasurame Heyo, I can say that the scenario I threw in my comments, with the new healers, I should say that if they are used to the dungeon, like if someone is brand new in Satasha I would ask if they want the mapping achievement, which involves one side room outside of the usual path. Then again I have had mentors that forget they are healers, and we all have a laugh if we wipe, because it isn't a big dungeon. I should say that healers that are new and I notice we're wiping a bit more than normal, then I will slow down and find where the healer is comfortable. The dps aren't the main concern for me, as the tank, to protect. I know it's good to help healers into wall to wall pulls, which at higher levels I do try and do, especially if I don't see the "a player is new to this dungeon" flash on my screen, if I see it I always ask who it is, and if it's the dps, I'll go wall to wall, if it's the healer, and we're in a decent level dungeon, I will pull rooms at a time. Because I know if they have questions, always being in combat makes it hard to ask, even as a tank. And thankfully wipes aren't as bad as other games. I can definitely say, as someone who went from healing to tanking, the cooldowns being used in W2W pulls is barely any, I use rampart and reprisal more than anything, and save my larger ones for the boss. My main point with my original comment was to laugh at those dps who want to think they're still level 90 with 20k health, and run 3 rooms away only to die because they forgot to turn on unsynced party. I hated it in wow, and I hate it here, I am a tank for a reason, if we wipe it is mostly because I didn't manage the aggro, but if a dps runs ahead and Leeroy's, I will laugh the first time, but if it keeps happening in my daily challenges with different dps, my mood quickly turns to that sarcastic ass you saw in the re-enactment of the chat logs. For anyone wondering, I did ICC and Nax with people like that, and if we failed to the point of the healer raging, we had to wait a whole other week before we could attempt it again, and the amount of people thought they'd be the new leeroy recording them charging in and dying, were insufferable. it's just a pet peeve of mine, that brings out the inner raid leader in me just a little bit, I'm not screaming insults at them, but if I see an opportunity to laugh at them, I will take it. I don't like a leeroy, they staged the original video and did their best to make it sound genuine. And I don't think a healer likes a leeroy dps either. A tank leeroy is kinda okay because of their massive dps mitigation abilities that can keep them alive long enough for a large heal to come in.
That's a good guide, but it contains a big mistake. Yes, healing is more about making the party survive, however not in a dungeon. At least not in lot of dungeons, expecially if the tank is a b*tch and he want to pull the entire corridor. You literally can't do dps in those cases, because in the interval between heal --> dps spell -->heals, with a group of mobs, the tank will receive too much damage to be mitigated with a single heal once in while. Expecially in certain dungeons, where there are simple mobs that do cleaves/pseudo-tank buster, that do tons of damages. For example in The Twinning, the "centaurs" after the first boss. Or in the Bardam's Mettle, the two group of beasts at the beginning of the dungeon. If an healer try to do things like applying dots/casting multiple dps spells during that first group in Bardam's Mettle, 90% of times is party wipe 'cause tank died.
The "centaurs" after the first boss in Twinning? If I'm thinking about what you're thinking about, the big aoes that they put out can be interrupted or stunned if players know to do that. As a BRD main, I always make a point of stopping one of those from going off, and the tank *should* know to interrupt the other one, though they usually don't in my experience (or a melee dps can stun it). Basically, it's not just up to the tank and the healer to make sure the healer doesn't have to constantly spam heals all the time during big pulls... the DPS have to play their part too! I see too many trash mechanics go off that DPS players can be doing something about.
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“God bless those 2B thigh highs” truer words have never been spoken
.."right behind main tanks, mentors and anybody who's an omnicrafter."
I feel called out
I am all 4 things so I feel quad called out
@@josegarza5792 I'm 3 of those (not a mentor) and I feel very called out...
Its funny that the "bad dps" looks suspiciously like Larryzaur
I think I also noticed Shen's character, at least in the Tank version
You’re both right. Jo runs stuff and plays other games with Shen and Larry a lot.
with "healer adjust", yes, 100% Larry
@@Enlyien yeah if you pay attention to the clips you see their names as well as other Friends of Shenpai a lot too. For that matter the person he pulls into the pit at the beginning IS Shenpai's own Voxer
@@Nirual86 and I find that Hi-Larious
The Sage: A Scholar who decided to stop being nice and pick up a gun… THAT SHOOTS LAZERS!!! Also 1:38 that Bahamut slap though…
That Bahamut pimp slap was so funny! Jocat must’ve took that from the Something about series!
Slap back
1:38
Slap back again
1:54
Excogitation+Sacred Soil, then floor slapping til everything's dead. I love scholar.
WHM: endless flashbang (Holy) + " I swear Benediction went off"
SCH: ground pound all days + "where the heck is my fairy"
AST: everybody get the card + "stand in my (barely visible) Earthly Star!!!"
also
"WoW ruined it for me"
I feel I need a lot of context here.
Healing in WoW is a high-stress job; Blizzard's idea of "challenge" is to throw out loads of unavoidable damage alongside avoidable mechanics - so unless the group is heavily overgeared for what you're running you have precious little time to anything BUT heal/shield. One lag spike can mean someone goes splat. Also you tend to be the first person who gets bitched out in chat when things go wrong.
Yeah, in wow you basically have to keep everyone at full all the time. There's a lot of stuff that won't one shot per se, but...
Mw Sage: "You're my friend now, here have the enemy's health."
Healing is actually very easy. The problem is when you are new you assume everything is your fault(and so does everyone else who doesn't heal). You can't heal stupid though. If everyone is doing the mechanics somewhat correctly then healing is super simple. On wall 2 walls or harder content it becomes about timing. For pulls judge how fast tanks health is dropping and heal appropriately. For harder shit watch the bosses cast bar and the main tanks life. The rest of the time you are just casting your one DPS spell and keeping up a dot
Granted as a new healer you can be ridiculously over powered. capable of surviving long enough to ressurect you entire light party in the thousand maws by running away and returning when the 5 separate mob groups they pulled went home. How did they pull 5 groups? Dps went 1 wa, and Tank went the other for a triple pull. And yes I was having a panic attack the entire time because herding cats is not in the healers job description. That is the tanks job by shining a nice laser pointer of distracted enemies at where everyone should hit.
Im just a level 27 glad, but i ran a few dungeons with newer problems and always find some good words for the fellow healers. I rather think anyone taking as my fault even if they run into the mobs themselves and keep pulling more then i can take on so far q.q
This accurately describes how WoW raids go, at least back when I played.
Then again, but in those days, the other healers sometimes proved to be an even bigger problem
Denda: “I’m your white mage, and nobody F’s with the white mage.”
Freeza: *shoots you*
LITTLE GREEN!!!
@@BWA85 His name was Dende
Come back magic man!
I've learned not to trust healers who leave me at 50% and think that it's ok after getting PTSD from being rezzed 4 DIFFERENT times INTO 4 DIFFERENT party damage abilities by the healers during my very first run of Titania
If you stand still after being rezzed you get invulnerability.
I'm one of those healers who thinks you should heal and dps. The way I see it, I can't trust another healer to heal and dps, so I might as well do it. I've been a healer main since base ARR and stuck with it through each expansion. Gotta love that insta que. Side note, I use the 2b thigh glam on my healer... I get quite a few glances. Guess they have never seen a male Aura in a dress, mesh stockings and heals (big props to SE for letting male characters wear the outfit.)
It's probably a typo, but heals/heels got a smile out of me as I was scrolling by.
Carbuncle in a blender had me laughing until my stomach ached... As much as I love the little mischief maker... XD
Started levelling as Dragoon but now my Astrologian has overtaking it just from dungeons. It's a lot of fun!
I love healing in FFXIV. It allows me to kill murder death anything I want as long as everyone's still standing. C'mon, I don't want you dead - you're my insurance policy against the big evil thing there that we're fighting. Which can't see now because of my HOLY light... but since you do need a heal... FEED THE BLOOD LILIES... I'm fine.
I don't know if he saw the idiot's guide to tanks but if he hasn't, definitely needs to. Just as good and funny!
The Tank one's 😂
1:37 not sure if it's the slap or the kettle-whine that's funnier
How about both?
As a Whm main, I can confirm this is 100% accurate. One button rotation is pretty accurate too lol, but its a good one button XD
Hey, the white mage has TWO one button rotations!
(spam holy and spam glare)
Techincally three. Gotta throw dia in occasionally
@@jingo4754 And assize. Crazy how people forget that it's not *just* a MP refresh. It's a decent attack on it's own.
@@diersteinjulien6773 yeah but technically assize is "use whenever its available" and since its an ogcd its not really considered part of a rotation
You forgot to throw your DoT in.. wait... You only press that at the beginning of your glare spam because the target is usually dead before it drops off
I recently had a bad experience as a healer in the Tam Tara Deepcroft when the tank wouldn't put his tank stance on even after being told, I contemplated murder.
If I'd been healing that and that happened I'd have left them dead, fuck getting bitched at
Solution to that is don't heal them until they turn it on. Heal nobody as without the tank stance you'd get 100% of the aggro from a single spell. If they bitch and whine tell them "I heal tanks and DPS that are doing their jobs and we have a wanna be DPS in here not doing their job"
this is easy.
no stance = no heals...
put it on. it even today violates the TOS and they can get banned for not cooperating in a duty.
enjoy
There there, I too have contemplated allowing my tank to die multiple times because they were being stupid.
We can’t cure stupid, so we just kicked him off the party and waited for a new tank.
I have watched several people do reactions to this video and your shocked reaction, complete with wide eyes darting from side to side, is my favorite reaction to that crazy bit at the start. Also you almost fell out of your chair at the "slapping the bitch who made the boo boos" bit. Wonderful. I love watching you dance along with Jocat's barding. He almost killed you with that livestreaming comment, didn't he?
Ok qiestion... Did anyone notoce THE EFFING 16 STACKS OF VULNERABILITY ON THAT DRK!? HOWCS THAT ONE STILL ALIVE!?
Dark Knights have amazing mitigation especially with The Blackest Night. Pair that with good healers and you'd be surprised how much BS you can survive even if you keep getting vuln stacks xD
Best way to test if you are good for trying to play healer. Go play Team Fortress 2 as the medic in Valve servers. If you can go 24 hours, broken up as needed for things like sleep and food and such, WITHOUT spewing toxic at your team, you should be able to handle the much friendlier FFXIV crowd as a healer.
Omg I'm so glad you finally watched one of these. So funny
DDs (standing in AoEs again and again): Heal me god damit!
Healer: Sure mate *proceeds to "rescue" DD into the bottomless pit*
Blackmage (standing in AoEs again and again): Heal me god damit!
Healer: Sure *proceeds to use every healing spell available instantly*
Hey, if we're moving then we're not casting. Just keep us alive and let us rain down fiery death.
@@peterbrazukas7771 Thats what we do - because healer adjust
@@holschermarc I used to main WHM so I know the pain, believe me lol
I want a full version of that healer song…
As someone just picking up healing for the first time ever, I can completely understand the god complex....and I completely have one.
That Bahamut scream makes me laugh so hard every time I hear it.
Rest in piece Carby! Oh no!
Great reaction as always!!
FYI, the Anime clip is from After War Gundam X.
"1-button rotation."
Yes.
WHM: GLARE.
SCH: BROIL
AST: COMBUST
SGE: "ha ha ha ha ha ha ha everything is dps now."
Have you watched the tank one?
"by kissing the boo boos and slapping the bitch who made the boo boos" lmao XD Dead.
I started as a white mage, and to anyone coming from wow I would always recommend typing that.
"Hey guys! I'm new to ffxiv and healing in this game, I usually play [insert mmo or other dungeon crawler] so if I mess up I do apologise."
if they are decent humans they should be similar to respond with a variant of "no worries, just remember that you can use a dot here and there in order to help us kill the group quicker. then we all heal."
I once had a dragoon pull ahead of me [a paladin at the time] and bring everything but the boss to me and expect me to tank it with a brand new sprout. the chat log went something like this
"dude why didn't you tank?"
"OH! that's why you ran ahead of the tank, pulled everything, then ran back to the tank like a kid who picked a fight he can't win and has to hide behind his big brother for help?"
"yes, you pull wall to wall"
"not with a brand new sprout who hasn't played any mmo, don't res him [insert healers character name], he needs to learn not to be an off tank."
"F!$@ You!"
"I mean, you looked like you enjoyed it with all those strong monsters." [I'm a sarcastic ass I know.]
If the healer is new to FF, I often try and pull one group at a time [I now kinda main paladin and gunbreaker, haven't touched warrior since 32.] and I know some people hate when tanks do that, but that might be because the healer is new to the duty or I see that this is someone's first time doing it. As such, I will do it slow, let them talk about the dungeon, and I will not pull the boss until I have briefed them on the base mechanics, sorry Lancer, but I won't pull because you scream at me "Go! Go! I'm pulling if you don't pull! Go!" [wowcrendor was so funny back then.]
anyway, rant over, I love his vids, and yeah I'm commenting on something a year old, but this is how I adapted to be a healer in ffxiv and how I, as a tank, help the new healers.
I can mostly speak for healer in this case, while I know it's not for everyone but slowly easing new healers into wall to wall pulls is still a good idea by taking a group, see how they do and add more mobs to the pile. Ofc. let them feel welcome and stop when they say you go to fast but still raise the stakes so they can build up the skill to learn which cooldowns to use to what sittuation.
I can only imagine it's somewhat the same with new tanks, the more you pull the better you learn how to space your cooldowns especially tell new tanks that even arms length is a good cooldown to use as it slows auto attacks down (many forget that or didn't read the tool tips)
overall, you right, 's better to be a nice person than to force people into your style of play but then again, it's a group game and wasting time in avoidable wipes is wasted time for everyone. Still not to say that wipes are okay and can happen especially as they are a part of the learning process.
@@MazeeKasurame Heyo,
I can say that the scenario I threw in my comments, with the new healers, I should say that if they are used to the dungeon, like if someone is brand new in Satasha I would ask if they want the mapping achievement, which involves one side room outside of the usual path.
Then again I have had mentors that forget they are healers, and we all have a laugh if we wipe, because it isn't a big dungeon.
I should say that healers that are new and I notice we're wiping a bit more than normal, then I will slow down and find where the healer is comfortable. The dps aren't the main concern for me, as the tank, to protect.
I know it's good to help healers into wall to wall pulls, which at higher levels I do try and do, especially if I don't see the "a player is new to this dungeon" flash on my screen, if I see it I always ask who it is, and if it's the dps, I'll go wall to wall, if it's the healer, and we're in a decent level dungeon, I will pull rooms at a time. Because I know if they have questions, always being in combat makes it hard to ask, even as a tank. And thankfully wipes aren't as bad as other games.
I can definitely say, as someone who went from healing to tanking, the cooldowns being used in W2W pulls is barely any, I use rampart and reprisal more than anything, and save my larger ones for the boss.
My main point with my original comment was to laugh at those dps who want to think they're still level 90 with 20k health, and run 3 rooms away only to die because they forgot to turn on unsynced party. I hated it in wow, and I hate it here, I am a tank for a reason, if we wipe it is mostly because I didn't manage the aggro, but if a dps runs ahead and Leeroy's, I will laugh the first time, but if it keeps happening in my daily challenges with different dps, my mood quickly turns to that sarcastic ass you saw in the re-enactment of the chat logs.
For anyone wondering, I did ICC and Nax with people like that, and if we failed to the point of the healer raging, we had to wait a whole other week before we could attempt it again, and the amount of people thought they'd be the new leeroy recording them charging in and dying, were insufferable.
it's just a pet peeve of mine, that brings out the inner raid leader in me just a little bit, I'm not screaming insults at them, but if I see an opportunity to laugh at them, I will take it. I don't like a leeroy, they staged the original video and did their best to make it sound genuine. And I don't think a healer likes a leeroy dps either. A tank leeroy is kinda okay because of their massive dps mitigation abilities that can keep them alive long enough for a large heal to come in.
I felt that hoping people visit your streams that was a low blow lol
So, there's no Esuna in this game?
A staple status ailment restorative magic not appearing in an FF?
There is.
@@KrimsonKB Oh.
The quote wasn't meant to be 'I can't Esuna, stupid' it was 'I can't Esuna (remove) your stupidity'.
You should absolutely watch his tanking video, it is also hilarious
If you liked this, you should check out his Crap Guide to Tanks.
Sage's... Might just be Gundamn good class to try.
As a WHM I do sometimes get the tank or people killed when I over-spam glare.
R.I.P Carby :(
Liquefied Carbuncle...?
Easy of saying to blend a carby and pour its magical remains into the sage weapon.
man, I love to see people lose it while they're watching JoCat's content. XD
Just subbed
Jo cat called you out
Pardon?
unless you play as Paladin. Lulz.
That's a good guide, but it contains a big mistake. Yes, healing is more about making the party survive, however not in a dungeon. At least not in lot of dungeons, expecially if the tank is a b*tch and he want to pull the entire corridor. You literally can't do dps in those cases, because in the interval between heal --> dps spell -->heals, with a group of mobs, the tank will receive too much damage to be mitigated with a single heal once in while. Expecially in certain dungeons, where there are simple mobs that do cleaves/pseudo-tank buster, that do tons of damages. For example in The Twinning, the "centaurs" after the first boss. Or in the Bardam's Mettle, the two group of beasts at the beginning of the dungeon. If an healer try to do things like applying dots/casting multiple dps spells during that first group in Bardam's Mettle, 90% of times is party wipe 'cause tank died.
You can if people know how to mitigate damage
The "centaurs" after the first boss in Twinning? If I'm thinking about what you're thinking about, the big aoes that they put out can be interrupted or stunned if players know to do that. As a BRD main, I always make a point of stopping one of those from going off, and the tank *should* know to interrupt the other one, though they usually don't in my experience (or a melee dps can stun it).
Basically, it's not just up to the tank and the healer to make sure the healer doesn't have to constantly spam heals all the time during big pulls... the DPS have to play their part too! I see too many trash mechanics go off that DPS players can be doing something about.