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00:00 New MAC Specs and Accessories
4:28 Connectivity MAC VS PC
6:00 Why PC Is No Longer An Option For Professional Audio
9:52 Switching to MAC & Performance with Pro Tools
11:05 Mac OS vs Windows
14:42 Is Mac Better For Audio?
15:50 Doe Thunderbolt Work?
16:14 The Bad (About Mac)
20:20 Price: Is Mac OVERPRICED?
28:00 Is Mac Better For PRO TOOLS?
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You can CUT on a Mac. Copy the file (command+c) then paste it using option+command+v and it will delete the file on its original location.
Thanks! Did not even knew that :D
Was about to say that! I think this is way more intelligent than using CTRL+X bc you can decide what you want to do with the file when you are at the destination directory and not have to decide before copying / cutting
What i do is just hold alt and drag the file to wherever i want it to be . Much faster and efficient
🤓 Can also option + right click to show the "move" command in the context menu. I also discovered that recently despite having used Macs & Windows for decades.
I never knew that
I had a 2014 Mac Pro desktop (trashcan).
In 2019 it crapped out so I took it to the Apple store to be fixed.
They tried a number of replacement parts and fixes over several visits (the first visit costing me $750aus in parts) but the problem was never resolved.
The Trashcan was 4 years out of warranty but Apple kept trying to fix it for no cost after failing the first time which was great but in the end, they finally gave up on it ever working... and then they did something remarkable.
They replaced my dead out of warranty 5yr old trashcan with the latest iteration of the Mac Pro series, the updated 2019 model.
The 2019 Mac Pro is worth almost 3 times the price of what the Trashcan cost me here in Aus.
Apple had a courier drop off my new Mac Pro to my door a few days later and its been killing it ever since.
Apple user for life here.
This is a good point for choosing Apple.
What it also does is switch people around from telling the world that their Mac had major issues and instead praise Apple for customer service! Haha. All the problems with thoae 6 years of trashcan Macs are all forgotten!
Crazy how reputation is created...
You're an exception.
Most important:
1. In System Preferences under Software Update uncheck "automatic Updates".
2. Never go for the latest updates (major updates). Hold back until the 3rd part devs give green light for their plugins to work correctly with the latest macOS.
Have fun!🙂
Along with that - I don't know if things have changed - but when updating get the combo updater instead of doing piece-meal updates. Remember the old saying - those who live on the bleeding edge are doomed to get cut by it.
I second this 🙏🏼
Yes, That's good advice. I always wait for about 6 months to update system OS to allow for that. Been on Mac since the early 90's and have I have lost almost no working time to computer error.Also never had an internal HD fail or any hardware fault...so far.
I update to last macOS before the release of the new one! 🤭 Just updated to Sonoma. Usually in Jun-Jul I update!
@@fuTuRo-Sonic The only time I lost work time was due to an Apple security update that bricked my machine.
Finally! Congrats for the transition
Recently switched myself, and you can Cut on Mac! Instead of Pasting with Cmd + V, push Option + Cmd + V
I learned something today, thank you !
Did you know the Ultra models have two Thunderbolt 4 ports on the front of the Mac Studio as well? So you also have 6 TB4 ports :) and a copper heatsink instead of a aluminum one!
If apple priced their products competitively then there would be no Pc vs Mac fan boys. Used PC for 15 years before switching to mac for 13 years. Couldn’t imagine going back. Great video discussion/review. Welcome to the club mate.
I'm switching also.
Apple was not immune to similar fuckups with their macbook pros a few years ago. New processors saved their ass.
Yep
Don’t know that it’s fair to say the new processors saved their asses when they spent over a decade developing those chips from scratch specifically to one day replace Intel in their machines. They saw what the future held and took it upon themselves to start preparing and planning for it. They didn’t go from a company with zero experience in chip manufacturing to being a market leader by pure luck.
@@harrykatsarosyou're right, they were trying to milk the old cow until it died, and then saved their asses by deciding to finally sell some inovation they've bin hiding in order to make more profit....
I switched from pc to mac about 10 years ago. Nothing wrong with either. For music production it made more sense for me.
i hope this is a wake up call for intel and they finally start innovating like they used to from the days of the 2600k
Why update the OS in studio enviroment? For better Wallpapers, A.I. Mail response, etc..? As you said, you use the studio computer only for ProTools.
The only (but not the least, the first) thing to consider is the price (especially the big difference of upgraded ram and ssd). In Italy costs even more than United States due to added taxes.
Storage is a huge issue with Macs today .
Once you go Mac or iPhone, you don’t go back. Best decision I ever made
"Let's face it, there's no competition'.. 'nuff said 🎯
Bro. You need to configure the new PC in order to work perfectly for real time audio process. It took me weeks to find the right BIOS settings and custom undervolt/overclocking settings. Now my PC is dead silent, no cpu spikes, super stable and can handle 30% more of vsts.
Did you miss the part in which I said I've been building and running PC in my studios for 20 years?
Yeap same here , did the same exact thing with my i7 14900 with my 96gb ram
Been waiting for something like this.. Thanks!
I also made the switch, recently. I was 24 years in windows audio and got a Mac system in April. The hassle of the drivers is a lot more minimized. I’m not quite as fast as I am in Windows yet, but I’m not running blind either. It feels more “stable”. You can work a bit more confidently with lower chances of a crash. Also, now I have the option of finally getting the McDsp APB.
My mac literally showed up via fed ex the VERY HOUR of the solar eclipse!
Good for you! I switched about 12 years ago or so and never looked back. I'm in the IT field and the revelation there was I working on an older Mac developing an application and it had 4gb ram and it worked, and it was old at the time, but it worked maybe better than the a same spec older pc with 8gb of ram. That thing I developed on that machine has generated at least $200M for my company (not me). I have many Macs now, and you'll find that firing up a new and doing is a dream. If you do the thunderbolt transfer to the new machine, all your stuff is there and installed and the only problem is getting the licenses authorized, and it takes maybe a couple hours top to bottom.
Regarding the hard drive prices, those drives are blazing fast. Like you might be getting 7TB transfer speeds on that internal drive, and good luck buying that and having it work with external drives. It's a bit of the same experience with their displays, like boy are they expensive to what you think you are comparing them too, , but they are kick ass.
Regardless, good for you, and I hope the machine blows you away trouble free for a long time (I'm sure it will).
Welcome to the family! I made the switch back in 2011 when I was still a network engineer. I always had problems with my Windows machines. The learning curve for the switch was fast. The problem with the hot processing was due to the older processor architecture. Even Macs had that problem with Intel processors. But then came the M1, and that was a whole different ballgame. Based on ARM processor architecture, every part works with efficiency, so you get the full package, and it delivers. Funny thing, ARM is coming to PCs again! While ARM processors have been implemented in PCs before-like in Chromebooks and the Microsoft Surface Pro X-the M1 has shown just how powerful and efficient ARM-based computing can be.
Hi David,
An interesting video. I'm very pleased that your switch to Mac has been so rewarding. I have been a Mac user for 30 years and have never looked back. The one thing I wanted to do was allay your fears about upgrades to OS. My current machine is a 2014 iMac, ten years old (so in tech terms, ANCIENT!) but, like yours, specced to the hilt. I have gone as far as I can with the OS for my processor and am currently running the equally aged Catalina - I can't go any further - but everything still works! It is only now that I am getting messages from one or two apps telling me I ought to upgrade my OS, but if I'm working in the box, there's no problem. The point is that your machine is an absolute beast, nicely future-proof, and your current OS will last you a very long time. I know each new OS comes with fancy features, but don't be intimidated; you won't NEED to change for years.
Thanks for a great channel. All the best.
i just got a new m2 mac and the fan is dead quiet, LOVE IT. even the base mini is pretty snappy for small projects
M2 cpu only upgrades to m2 pro with 10 or 12 cores(cant remember) going from m2pro to ultra or max just upgrades the gpu. so if you just do music production getting pro is the best bang for buck, if you also do video or 3D rendering or other gpu power work than you could upgrade the gpu aswell (so use the m2 max or m2ultra)
Been a Mc user for years and years. Never had any real problem with OS upgrades, just make sure you subscribe to newsletters for your plugins and watch out for companies giving a heads-up when there might be an issue. No big deal.
also if your doing brig transfers sometimes its faster to just clone the drive in disk utility vs coping from one drive to the other
I switched about a year ago & its been amazing!! You can also customize the shortcuts 😁 have fun...
Great video, thanks
Got the Mac Studio M2 Max Chip & Have the same DigiCal hub & I have had it for a few months now and is running much better than my MacBook Pro 💻
BigUps for the Switch but the Storage & Memory space you have is way more than what I have though! All the Best with the new setup 👑👊🏿✊🏿✌🏿👑
I've built PC's since the late 90's and quit after ~2018 after buying a used 2013 MBP to try out ($600)
Now I run like five M1/2's for video and music. Never building a computer again. No advantage anymore. Mac's are truly plug and play.
13900KS has been steady so far on win 10. Going to use this as long as win 10 works.
13900 is the mac destroyer when it comes to audio, good choice.
@@SamHocking maybe if using mac OS it would be... hackintosh rocks! ... but as long as windows is used, audio workflow is greatly impeaded and much of the same functions require far more lines of code and therefore much less efficient use of energy despite the speed on paper. Just look at the installer size of ProTools on mac and pc... very different! I've noticed the same trend, where the mac programs typically use less hard drive space for the same program, so we can assume there's less lines of code and/or less steps to perform the same tasks. Mac's operating systems just feel like they're better thought-though during the dev phase, and they also behave a lot more predictably. I love waking up with the same computer every day for years.... no need to "upgrade", and "auto update" turned off. It's simply bliss... (im running i7700k and mix huge sessions with zero threat to the CPU).
So, in that my PC was built in 2016 and OSX breathed new life into it to the extent to where I have no need to mess with it... I'd say the operating system is quite a bit better-suited for audio stuff...
I used to build new PCs like every two years! I don't think I ever built one that didn't ague with protools to some extent.
@@SamHocking i suspect, programs which are initially programmed using Unix will never function as well in C++
@@steveburns6912 Maybe? Is Unix a common OS to develop C/C++ Audio applications to typically run on Windows and MacOS for audio though?
Interesting vid. Thanks.
Thanks for the information
You probably render these videos a lot faster than before too, so I am sure that is a big time saver for you now!
Speed is definitely noticeable, much more noticeable than any previous PC upgrade
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@@mixbustv David do you have a link for that keyboard you're using with your new mac studio ??
Finally! Welcome and Congratz!❤
the mac studio has a known problem with USB A ports , yesterday my ilok stopped working because the mac decided to stop giving power to the usb , its a voltage issue so i decided to get a usb hub with an external power 12v
I'm a life long PC guy. I've got some music production friends work on Macs, so I have a little experience on them. At one of my audio jobs they got a new Mac M1. For such a tiny(form factor?) computer I'm really impressed with how fast it is. The Mac os just like iphones, could be considered smoother and more efficient with CPU usage. I've only seen one M2 Studio in person, and it's a true silent monster!!
I don't own a studio or work at a purely professional level. So investing this much into a system isn't feasible.
However!, I'm seriously bummed to hear the new intel CPUs and chipsets are causing problems. I'll be needing to build a new system at some point soon. I'm curious if there's a reason why AMD is not an option for PC audio production??. I know they're popular with gamers....I've never used them. Intel has some serious damage control to do, and some catching up with Mac!
I've been using an AMD ryzen platform for audio for years no problem.
I use Ryzen and no issues except when Cubase did the switch to 12 but I just switched to bitwig and haven’t had issues at all with any projects and it maximizes my hyperthreading that the AMD chips do so well
According to data from Dawbench tests, Intel systems at the very least used to be better for virtual instrument usage at low latencies. You might want to check with Scan co uk. They're one of a couple of audio pc providers. As for the recent Intel troubles, the Intel 14xxx series seems to have serious problems, but anything with Alder Lake cores appears to be ok. I use a Ryzen 5950X system, and I'll be checking out out how the 9950X does when it comes out soon. The M1 and M2 computers by Apple are brilliant, but a comparison always pays off. My system HAS to be able to play games, so my choice was simple until I had to do all the research :P .
Great choice !!!
I bought my first computer in 2000, a Mac titanium laptop, and then bought the first version of the ProTools MBox. In 2022, I bought the Mac Studio M1 Ultra, and now have the ProTools MBox Studio. I make a new video every week, composing, playing, recording, mixing, etc. The Mac never kicks its fans up to a higher speed and is silent as a sleeping mouse. I am sure you will enjoy your new Mac !! Thanks for your excellent videos and great advice !!! Que va piano va sano y lontano!!!
Awesome! I switched when the m1 mini with 16 ram came out, and I really love it. Plug, and play. As long as everything is compatible it works great for music production. Im still working on it. Now I have been having to bounce to audio as my projects are pretty huge 4 years later. i can also recommend a anker thunderbolt dock. The owc you showed in other video should be great also.
Since you've switched to Mac now, would you consider getting the APB 16 for your current setup?
I have one at the other studio. I have a LOT of analog gear, and believe it or not, there are a couple of new units coming. Yet, I do love the APB and maybe not the 16ch like we have in the other studio but the 8ch is definitely a thought now.
Welcome to the club, brother! I think you are really going to like it once you are used to it! I'm not trying to slight Windows at all... I know there are many people who do great work on that platform, but I have found that for ME... it's much easier for me to deal with any issues if things go wrong... and I just click with the OS much more. I've also found that often times the Mac version of a particular DAW just seems more stable. ENJOY!!!
Hi David .Im thinking of getting the Mac studio .Im curious, what r the specs on the your mac and what monitor will u connect to it.Thanks Uri
Specs are at the beginning: M2 Ultra, 4Tb internal, 128GB ram. Samsung curved monitor (same I had before) via HDMI. You need a keyboard and a mouse (unless you have a compatible one like I did)
Thanks for the interesting story and sharing your experiences. I changed from PC to a Mac some month ago. I also had to spend some money. But now sometime later, I’m not regretting it. I also had to learn the Mac OS workflow, since it’s in some aspects it’s way different to a PC. But now I like the Mac a lot. Just works, is very fast and very reliable. For me there is no way back. And by the way, big thanks again: I appreciate it a lot that I can learn so much from you in your videos about mixing mastering. Also, your way of explaining things and your pronunciation is very good. Important for me, cause I’m not a native English speaking person. But with you, I understand every single word, merci!
You have saved me quite a bit of money, thank you so much!!
Congrats on migrating on Mac, Dave! I rarely use my M1 Air 16 (I am 20+ years on Mac's). Unfortunatelly I can't play games and train AI on Mac. And that "old" firewire devices definetely will not work on M1/2/3 type processor. Also my M1 Air has no HDMI or DisplayPort so I use Type C HUB with HDMI to connect it to my monitors (and I can't connect it to my 3 monitors), interesting how Mac Studio behaves with 3 monitors. Also lack of ability to upgrade Mac is frustrating. So I am still on PC for 1-2 years but time will tell, may be I will switch to Apple.
at the radio studio where I have working for 20+ yrs, we were on Mac, from a 3.1 power PC, that was only the recording unit on the 8 logic, everything was analogue equipment, to the latest update a couple of years ago the M1 mac mini which for our radio projects is more than enough. now I have a studio full of equipment covered with dust because plugins are so powerful and so easy to use. but I remember my mate's studio problems with windows. he was always messing with the system going slower and slower with time, due to registry faults that are accumulating over time, also the second problem was the viruses, almost to panic. every client came with its own USB stick that he was running through a laptop with one antivirus, then to another PC with another antivirus before plugging it into his working machine. he was reinstalling the whole system several times a year because it was impossible to use until he got pissed, and got the Mac OS Leopard!!!!! installed on his PC, then sometime later bought his own first Mac. old times stories but stick to the topic...)))) congrats on the transition!!!
Hey David! My heart goes out to you man! I don’t have the set up you do by a long shot, but the frustrations (insert your own phrase) no matter what level, we all have our ups and downs with gear. If there’s anything positive about it, it’s that you find the community (eventually) that gets us to the next gear. Rock on!
plan on switching soon also trev drop that magic app bro 😂😂😂
Any way to use pcIe uad cards on mac ?
Don'y know really. Maybe an external adapter
You can most likely get a PCIE Thunderbolt chassis
You’d have to either buy a Mac tower (Mac Pro); this has customizable empty slots for those cards, or you can probably get a chassis like the other commenters stated.
I use Sonnet Studio/Echo III for UAD Pcie,Rednet, it works
@@younggod-ws8py Same here. I've used the Sonnet with UAD2 PCIe cards for years. Works great. I even have my old Aurora 8 converter connected to the thru port of the Sonnet box using an Apple Thunderbolt 3 to 2 adapter.
RISC vs CISC it's a no brainer for noise and power consumption.
Been Mac with music + Logic since 2007...It's super convenient for everything music related and makes getting ideas out of your head and recorded as fast and easy as possible. Also, everything just seems plug n play with Mac...at least within Logic...hardware or software...it just works.
Thank you so much for diving so deeply into your experience! I think I'll be switching to Mac after also using Windows for production for the last 15 years myself.
This video is very much needed right now. Many music producers, engineers and studios are switching from Windows to Mac. Your insight and experience will come in handy. I am currently using Windows 11 in my studio, and I am planning to buy a Mac Studio. I hope my transition will go smoothly. The video was great, but you repeated your statements several times, especially at the end of the video. I'd shorten it down a little. It felt a bit redundant. Overall, it was an informative video man!
Very interesting 👍
Do you use your MOTU, with usb, thunderbolt or AVB network?
AVB network is native on Mac 😜
TB with a switcher (I have 5) AVB directly into Mac has limitations compared to TB
Glad I’m not alone in this! I too recently went full hog on a windows rig for music production in Cubase and I just kept getting issue after issue after cpu spike crackle etc etc. switched to m3 max MacBook Pro and the Mac COMPLETELY outclasses my brand new *theoretically* more powerful windows rig. Especially stability wise. I also had ridiculous usb issues like you which were instantly solved by Mac. Oh and also the complete silence of the Mac compared to idle fans on my windows rig still sounding like a small generator in the corner of the room.
I’m so happy for you!
I use a Mac Studio ,paired with a mtrx 2 and hdx ,solid setup ,very happy
I began a slow switch the beginning of this year... within a few weeks, my overbuilt PC got kicked out the room! My PC laptop was almost unusable when trying to work on a project. I'm standing by for the updated Mac Studio to release, but this M3 Max-equipped MBP is a beast!
I switched to a Mac Studio in March and minus a few vsts I have to boot the old ball and chain up for from some old sessions, I"m never going back.
I did something similar only I built my PC 3 years ago and a few weeks ago decided to switch to an MBP. Loving it so far, everything is smooth and I have not been able to push it hard enough for the fans to kick in so it's dead silent in the studio.
Planning on switching too. I am dealing with the same USB issues as I have so many peripherals connected. Just waiting for the M4 Pro and M4 Max chips which are coming in the fall apparently.
Hey, the M1 benchmarks BETTER than the M2 or M3 on pro tools.
@@GingerDrums Hey, I get that. For me. It’s more to do with future proofing and being eligible for software updates and support years down the line. Apple can be quite aggressive at times. For example, the 2017 macs no longer receive updates. Only 7 years old! The M1 machines are already almost 4 years old and the M2 Pro and Max systems are already at least 2 years old. The hope is they will support their silicon a lot longer than the intel stuff they did but you never know. I don’t want to be upgrading my Studio machine for at least 5-7 years after it was purchased.
@@GingerDrums This is incorrect. You're probably talking about the video by James Zhan. His test methodology is super skewed toward showing that the M1 is better. The newer Pro Tools versions are able to utilize performance AND efficiency cores.The only issue comes with the M3, which has slightly less memory bandwidth (but still high enough not to make any practical difference with audio).
@@GC-nd1lp absolutely true! My bad and thanks for the updated info
@@GingerDrums That video frustrates me to no end, you're good lol. He compared the M1 with 8 performance cores vs M2 and M2 processors with fewer than 8 p cores, even though ones with 8 p cores exist! It's a valid concern for lots of other DAWs that don't utilize efficiency cores.
did you have an AMD or INTEL CPU? ...i'm on a new windows amd mini pc because it's the most affordable option right now but as soon as i can afford it i will switch to mac....i was never an apple fanboy but i know for music production it's the most hassle free ...maybe i'll use an mac as my main machine and a windows as a backup for producing, i heard there are also sometimes problems on mac after updates because some plugins need some time till they adapt like you mentioned
I empathise. I switched back in 2002 when OSX first came out. I took one look at it and decided instantly that it would be worth it. One week later, I knew more about the Unix architecture than I even did about Windows or DOS. Never looked back. Given the size of your studio, this seems to have gone pretty well : )
Yeah, the UNIX underpinnings really sold it for me back around that time too. OSX (MacOS) really do combine the quality desktop environment and under the hood unix geeky stuff. Its funny, that many Linux geeks dont even realise that MacOS is actually a certified UNIX:
Definitely you're right with Mac Studio. For big(ger) projects a Mac Studio Ultra may be the best choice. But for most people a Mac Studio with a mMax processor will be great. It's incredible what even my Macbook Air with 24gb Ram can handle... My windows Main Studio PC is only here, because there was no good deal on Mac Studio that time - and I wanted to build (DiY) some things...and maybe upgrade the Ram/graphics for DeepLearning things...but the haters will always hate and I always try to show what are the best things in both worlds - for some musicians/creators maybe the freeware situation is still an advantage + upgrading paths...(what really isn't necessary when having the "right amount" of Mac Studio - its awesome what raw power and efficiency comes with Apple Silicon)
Thanks for the vid, David. Glad it's working out for you, man! How much longer will we have to suffer before MS takes audio seriously on their OS? Will we all switch to mac? I'm considering it, and I've been PC since the 80s.
When I got Pro Tools LE twenty some years ago, I bought a Sony Vaio to run it. I returned that computer in less than a day and bought a G4. I've never looked back.
D, get into using Notes on your Mac. You can screenshot and paste mix info into folders. I have a ton of notes from pro's etc.
All that is backed up automatically to the cloud.
I got the Mac Studio - straight fire 🔥
Welcome to Mac. I made the switch about ten years ago after being a diehard PC guy. I've never gone back.
Same. They are expensive but get a very long life out of them before needing to replace them.
@@Amusiastudio not really ... its vice versa
@@F-Andre ive had my mac for 10 years and only now am i considering an upgrade. Never had a pc last that long without getting crippled with bugs and bloat.
@@Amusiastudio i upgraded in23 last update was in 2015 and 2007
@@Amusiastudio "Never had a pc last [10 years] without getting crippled with bugs and bloat" - And did the price of your PCs cost anywhere close to the price of your Mac? You can go a long way by choosing the right components. I'm typing this on an 11-year-old PC that cost just under $1,850 when I built it in 2013, and it still runs well. I'm not making any judgement on which is better (PC or Mac); I'm only pointing out that PCs absolutely can last 10 years and longer.
One good tip is to lag one full OS version behind before upgrading, or at heast few point releases behind if not forced to upgrade 👍
I really love your channel. I have been sending people here for years. You are the best bro. Big ups from Eugene, Oregon.
Thank you!
How'd you deal with the filesystem compatibility? I assume your existing drives with all your data were all NTFS, which you can't write to on macOS.
You actually can, I just got Paragon and it sees all my NTFS drives and I can even format that way natively. But before discovering that, I temporarily moved the files of 2 of my drives, formatted them and moved the files back
I’m having my backup harddrives replaced with NVMe4.0 M2 drives running in raid 2 so I have fast and very safe backups now. Still running on a Mac Mini but everything works flawlessly. I was thinking about building a new pc but after rebuilding a pc for my daughter I think I will stay on Mac for now, the whole Windows setup and drivers is a pain in the ass. 😊
was it just crashing or audio stuttering? Apparently there have been wide spread reports of 13, 14 intel CPUs failing on general purpose workloads. I got a 13k laptop recently, nothing crashes, but I experience stuttering in the audio. Wondering if it's the driver or not. What was your xp like on windows with different audio interfaces?
BSOD, when working wasn't stuttering. That might be drivers or settings
Congratulations David, it's a smart decision when dealing with audio for all the reasons you've mentioned....
I’ve been on windows for 25 years using daws. Studio one pro , pro tools , audition , reason , reaper over the years. I need to know how low I can run my hardware buffer size for live monitoring guitar sims . Currently on i9 9900k and can run superior drums and a few guitars sims with a 64 sample buffer for recording.. I wonder if 32 would work with a M2 Max. In studio one with 100 tracks ..
Me too on i9-9900k and it seems that it doesn't need the upgrade still. Very stable system and thunderbolt is running fine, no issues there. However I did undervolting from the day 1 to lower the power consumption and temperatures by 15 degrees
I was waiting for this after ur video about the thunderbolt compatibility video.
It looks like there is a known stability problem with the 13th & 14th generation i7 & i9 intel CPU's.
Does the Mac studio thunderbolt 4 work with your thunderbolt 2 devices?
Yes
Solid discussion. Been a Mac guy since 1986, though I dabble with PC's and have built a couple Hackintoshes. Bought a M2 Max MacBook Pro last year and it's easily the best Mac I've ever had... able to do serious work on the go or hooked to my studio rig with one Thunderbolt cable. Also, one must have utility is ChronoSync.
My only problem with Windows is the USB issue you mentioned. If all you’re doing is engineer work that Mac is worth it for just working all the time peace of mind. As a hobbyist I couldn’t justify the price for those specs. But Apple hasn’t cracked the code to processing power = more heat issues, Apple just put systems in place to make sure their chips don’t max out. They don’t know more than Intel or AMD who have been doing this for decades. The other reason I stopped buying Macs is because my first Mac was a PowerPc that they discontinued which I lost money on. Apple will eventually discontinue M1 M2 and make you upgrade to M3 like they are doing with Intel Macs and like they did with PowerPC. You’d be lucky if that Mac is not obsolete in 5-6 years they way they move. Apple model is to make you buy their products every 1-2 years.
I personally know at least 10 or 12 professional facilities, not even just "studios" that run 10yo Macs still. I'm not sure how accurate that statement is.
@@mixbustv they can’t be updating the OS
Welcome on Mac! Happy to having always worked on it for everything I do - not just music
Congrats on the switch. Looks like a few people mentioned this, but you can use command option V to move whatever you want to whatever location you are focused on.
Yas! Thank you 🙏
Hello David, to reduce issues with newest OSes on Mac, just stay 2-3 OSes behind the latest one. That way, you’ll be able to work pretty smoothly and install newest plugins and so on, without major problems
Did you try the tb2/3 to tb4 adapters or are they not feasible?
No they're not
I am thinking to move a file or photo on mac to another internal folder, all you have to do is select it and drag it to the folder.
What I love about Mac is you turn it on and it……..works.
When I ran an internet real estate consulting firm in the mid-1990's, I charged twice my standard fee if the client had a Windows machine. Seriously. I git complaints, but the number of hours of pain trying to get a client's machine to work drove me nuts. Most of my clients agreed in the end to pay the extra fee.
I even would "charge" my dad extra for helping him with his Windows machine. When I finally convinced him to go with Apple, he was a totally happy camper, and almost never asked me to help him again with computer problems.
Welcome to the brighter side of computer force! I made a switch 10 or so years ago after making my windows laptop a hackintosh. It gave me over 25% performance boost on literally the same hardware so there were no other choice for me ;) since then - no computer issues at all!
BTW have you consider a NAS server to handle storage instead of all that external hard drives? it is in general a much more reliable solution
Switching to Mac years ago was the best thing ever - even a Pc that was spec’d out to be as stable for audio as possible still had all sorts of glitches etc , first Mac noticed all devices immediately and just ran , as others have said , wait or just don’t upgrade the OS untill all your gear is officially supported.
It’s not like the next OS will have anything special for Audio .
Also most important, thank you for years of valuable information 🤘🏼
all facts
I'm surprised you took so long!You deserve the best if the best, my friend! Welcomed!
Hello David,
As always, my question is non related to the video 😅, although I am probably moving to Mac when my computer starts to lag.
When do you prefer the RND 542's over the Empirical Labs Fatso or the other way around? For example on overheads or drums, parallel drums, guitar bus, mix bus, etc... Do you prefer the Stam 1178 or the Fatso on drum overheads or room?
There's literally nothing I would swap the 542s (which I only use on 2bus anyway) with the Fatso and vice-versa. Fatso is a compressor, WITH some saturation options. 542s are saturators. They have very very little in common even if it might seems like the do on paper. As for the 78 vs Fatso, that's a closer call and there are things you'd use one or the other. But which one it all depends on the day
@@mixbustv thank you!
The best thing on mac is the core audio (Aggregate) and the security. I work on both plataforms but I prefer Mac.
I've been using exactly the same machine you have with PT Ultimate HDX and AVID chassis. That thing is a beast.
Don´t update the OS in a studio computer, you don´t need to! Serban Ghenea use in his studio pretty old OS´s. They will update only when some new plugins will not work anymore. Also the OS you got delilvered with the mac is usually the best and fastest.
Given that you love the Cmd+Space shortcut - which I also use 500x a day - it's good to know that sometimes Mac's go a bit crazy with the indexing of the spotlight search. My Mac has on several occasions gotten stuck in some kind of indexing frenzy where it eats up 90% of CPU power permanently while trying to index your hard drive, and one one occasion it literally forgot everything. Both times the answer is to Google how to shut down and reset the spotlight indexing and it fixed it. Good to keep in mind if your machine at any point feels like it's losing power and you're not running any software.. it might be the spotlight going ga-ga.
Great video. I use both systems (MAC & PC, both mostly MAC [I build my own PC too]) so I know exactly what you're talking about. It is very important to have a "windows mindset" when using PC and a "MAC mindset" when using MAC. I bought my PC from Sweetwater a long time ago and rebuild it using the same rack mount case (what I prefer in stead of a big tower case). After seeing the Mac Studio, I wanted to buy one too for my my studio ( I have a very good experience with MBP's and all other Apple stuff). But I have a question: I have a 500GB SSD as operating drive in my pc (for Windows) and have two more internal HD, each 24TB of storage and have all my virtual drives, included dropbox, gdrives, etc installed on these internal HD. Can I install these cloud drives on external drives via USB on the Mac Studio (due to the fact that these drives can not be installed inside of the Mac Studio). The idea is to buy a 2 TB internal HD Mac Studio, and install all cloud drives on external drives.
I have find a lot of YT video's about installing DB on external drives. Thx for liking my comment.
Mac user for 25 years specifically for Logic...and the OS. I currently have a 2017 iMac that is still going strong and next will likely be a Mini. The new Mac studios are pretty dope but I think an M2 mini is perfectly fine for music production
Great video. Btw you really nailed it. The premium is not that high these days. But if downtime costs you more than the cost of the machine. Avoiding that is worth the price of admission itself…... they will have 16Tb option on the next gen machine. This option will be an eye watering optional upgrade.
Hi, What Thunderbolt version is your motu 16A Card?
Cards. I have 4 plus my Dangerous mastering rig and the flock. MOTU is TB2
Good luck and congratulations
I’m sticking with my old PC intel still running good with W10
That'd be November
Welcome my dear brother, I build PC’s and work as an audio engineer and the exact same thing happened to me 13 years ago…