As a palestinian, unfortunately people are using her Starbucks support as an excuse to just hate on her as a human being. I get not liking her, I personally don't but why is everyone just assuming everything about her now.. there are so many k-pop stans that are performative activists I swear. Using an idol buying Starbucks as an excuse to hate on them isn't the way to go at all and me and many other Palestinians are very upset by this. Some of you guys come across as extremely forceful and hateful when trying to "educate" which is completely fucking wrong. Not every company is gonna allow their idols to speak on this sensitive matter and that's to be expected. Literally nobody paid any attention to our suffering for the last few decades and now y'all are using it to gain morality points? Unfortunately as much as more idols need to be educated and as much as they need to talk about it, the reality is they can't. Their entire career can be on the line, especially idols from bigger companies. The reality is, people think what they did to yunjin is good, when it really isn't. I'm sorry but You can't support Palestinians and then spew hate all because an idol bought coffee. You aren't supporting, you're just following along and using that to justify your hate. In that case your support literally means NOTHING. Bring all that attention to suffering Palestinians instead of an idol who literally has nothing to do with Israel.
I dont want Garam to redebut in kpop because of the way people dragged her and now wanna use her and say oh she would of been the best like no yall dragged her so hard. i want her to be successful elsewhere in music so people who dragged her can suffer in her success
10:58 I made a comment on someone calling her out for getting plastic surgery after saying that once were I said “she probably didn’t have a choice” and the way people kept on yelling “SHE COULDVE SAID NO” is insane like she wouldn’t have debuted without it I’m guessing
One thing I’ve learned is that no one knows what they’re talking about when it comes to Israel/Palestine let alone about the boycotts. Even though they only just heard about something in a video, ppl believe the outrage. They assume the person is knowledgeable so they blindly follow.
for the yunjin drinking starbucks thing after people hated her for it she didn't drink starbucks again (or at least no one saw her drinking starbucks) and apparenlty she apologized on weverse about it but then she deleted it but some people took screenshot before she deleted it you can search it up. also they definitely improved their vocals since cochella but i hate how people are like oh they're lipsyncing whenever they sing good
Chaewon with short hair is perfect wdym lol I love Antifragile but it's ok if you don't, everyone has different taste (thanks god, the world would be boring) I agree with all the other opinions !
Bighit has managed a girlgroup before..but them girls were trouble that is why I think bighit tends to stay away from girl groups. They haven’t gotten over the trauma..BIGHIT HAS GIRLGROUP PTSD😂😂
@@lemonkookie they were called GLAM..you can search for them to find all the tea that is why bangpd and bighit stays away from managing girlgroups..they will leave it to the other labels
The way kpop stans have handled the palestine situation is exactly why I'm hesitant towards the idea of kpop and politics/social issues mixing. Instead of drawing attention towards the demographic negatively affected by political/social issues, they treat the situation as an excuse for holding witch hunts against idols they dislike for doing actions that don't necessarily express their support for such issues. A concerning amount of kpop fans just don't have the maturity to realise that their behaviour online towards situations like this can have serious real life implications on not only the celebities in question but also the victims of such circumstances. Based on witnessing the hate trains of girl groups like Aespa, I've, and Itzy in real time, I'm afraid that the hatred towards Lesserafim will only stop once kpop fans find another group to slip up and become their next punching bag.
im really curious as to what you think about other girl groups right now apart from newjeans, katseye and lesserafim as well as your thoughts on the katseye documentary
Well, I don't mind Lesserafim having dive into various kind of concept and releasing different kind of genre whatever reaction people give to them either it's negative or positive one... Unlike other Kpop group that were assigned or attached by their signature of specific concept... I'm sure most of Fearnot has different version of what they like about Lesserafim like how you think Sour Grape and Swan Song which you feel suitable for them some might think they are prefer other song whether it's good in vocal wise or not... That's why their albums has bunch of different genre and not stick on one thing because people prefer different things. It's a good way to attract listeners. Lesserafim doesn't need to stick on one thing like how other people hope... They can do anything with what they want either it would give a positive impact or not since I think their concept is about challenging themselves fearlessly... That's why they don't need perfect outcome. Neither of them deserved any hatred... Just like how we shouldn't be judgemental or critical about someone else efforts... Being a fan, is all about looking forward... If you're disappointed in one time, you can be anticipated for the next time. Lesserafim is already perfect with the current member since of them has their own story and goal to conveyed... How they actually making it happened really is amazing. As long as Eunchae didn't show any sign of uncomfortable with how she were treated... I think it would be fine... She would always wanted to be seen and act like a grown up... The one who isn't in a right mind are labeled everything she did is intended sexualizing... We should appreciated how she put a hardwork to make it looked perfect so the choreo looked amazing... She didn't even emphasise her move obviously so how people think it's inappropriate? Moreover, that's what you called fake fans and real one... The Fandoms are fine... Anyone can claims they are fans but actually they don't have good intentions or being sincere when giving their support and love. What's toxic are the Kpop fans... Nowadays, people can be a fan not just to a single gg but various... Then they compare this one and the other... That's how they may intentionally or not spreading hatred... It's a good thing Garam being eliminated from being a member because of her controversy though it's unfair one... Like how Lesserafim has to through the massive hatred, it would be another horrific experience that Garam has to through... So never judge someone's fate that has happened... Whatevet her choice in a future... Let's hope she have the bright one.
@@sistersroomco2790 No matter Eunchae’s comfort, no matter if she wants to be perceived more maturely, no matter how hard she’s worked, and no matter how much emphasis she puts into inappropriate choreography, having a child shake their ass and grind on the floor for media consumption and money is intentional sexualization of that child.
@@lemonkookie Then we can blame her parents to allowing this from happening... Not just the agency... Since whatever it is... It's a child exploitation anyway...
@@sistersroomco2790 both are guilty. The parents for letting their child be in the situation and the agency for putting her in the situation in the first place. Her parents being guilty doesn't make source music any less at fault.
@@loOla-s9g well it's not only source music to be in fault... The whole industry should be in fault too because allowing minors to be in part of such job... Just like how Sakura experience the same thing during her idol career in Japan. It's awful... However, we shouldn't dismissed that they themselves do their best to achieved a dreams they want to live... Protecting isn't about pointing out a fault but to recognised the problem and make a change so people don't sexualized such effort as a part of marketing but view as something else.
As a palestinian, unfortunately people are using her Starbucks support as an excuse to just hate on her as a human being. I get not liking her, I personally don't but why is everyone just assuming everything about her now.. there are so many k-pop stans that are performative activists I swear. Using an idol buying Starbucks as an excuse to hate on them isn't the way to go at all and me and many other Palestinians are very upset by this. Some of you guys come across as extremely forceful and hateful when trying to "educate" which is completely fucking wrong. Not every company is gonna allow their idols to speak on this sensitive matter and that's to be expected. Literally nobody paid any attention to our suffering for the last few decades and now y'all are using it to gain morality points? Unfortunately as much as more idols need to be educated and as much as they need to talk about it, the reality is they can't. Their entire career can be on the line, especially idols from bigger companies.
The reality is, people think what they did to yunjin is good, when it really isn't. I'm sorry but You can't support Palestinians and then spew hate all because an idol bought coffee. You aren't supporting, you're just following along and using that to justify your hate. In that case your support literally means NOTHING. Bring all that attention to suffering Palestinians instead of an idol who literally has nothing to do with Israel.
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Mad respect bro mad respect
It was wrong the way people treated Yunjin and Sakura. Most people wouldn’t be able to handle that level of harassment.
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I dont want Garam to redebut in kpop because of the way people dragged her and now wanna use her and say oh she would of been the best like no yall dragged her so hard. i want her to be successful elsewhere in music so people who dragged her can suffer in her success
10:58 I made a comment on someone calling her out for getting plastic surgery after saying that once were I said “she probably didn’t have a choice” and the way people kept on yelling “SHE COULDVE SAID NO” is insane like she wouldn’t have debuted without it I’m guessing
One thing I’ve learned is that no one knows what they’re talking about when it comes to Israel/Palestine let alone about the boycotts.
Even though they only just heard about something in a video, ppl believe the outrage. They assume the person is knowledgeable so they blindly follow.
for the yunjin drinking starbucks thing after people hated her for it she didn't drink starbucks again (or at least no one saw her drinking starbucks) and apparenlty she apologized on weverse about it but then she deleted it but some people took screenshot before she deleted it you can search it up.
also they definitely improved their vocals since cochella but i hate how people are like oh they're lipsyncing whenever they sing good
Chaewon with short hair is perfect wdym lol
I love Antifragile but it's ok if you don't, everyone has different taste (thanks god, the world would be boring)
I agree with all the other opinions !
Honestly, Source Music could make the next hit international girl group if they got a group full of good vocalists.
I honestly don’t know which I’m more excited for, LeSserafim to have a sister group, an international YG group, or a KQ gg. 😅
Kq for me bc i think they'll be treated well
Bighit has managed a girlgroup before..but them girls were trouble that is why I think bighit tends to stay away from girl groups. They haven’t gotten over the trauma..BIGHIT HAS GIRLGROUP PTSD😂😂
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@@lemonkookie they were called GLAM..you can search for them to find all the tea that is why bangpd and bighit stays away from managing girlgroups..they will leave it to the other labels
GLAM was actually managed by Source Music. BigHit only handled production.
The way kpop stans have handled the palestine situation is exactly why I'm hesitant towards the idea of kpop and politics/social issues mixing. Instead of drawing attention towards the demographic negatively affected by political/social issues, they treat the situation as an excuse for holding witch hunts against idols they dislike for doing actions that don't necessarily express their support for such issues. A concerning amount of kpop fans just don't have the maturity to realise that their behaviour online towards situations like this can have serious real life implications on not only the celebities in question but also the victims of such circumstances.
Based on witnessing the hate trains of girl groups like Aespa, I've, and Itzy in real time, I'm afraid that the hatred towards Lesserafim will only stop once kpop fans find another group to slip up and become their next punching bag.
im really curious as to what you think about other girl groups right now apart from newjeans, katseye and lesserafim as well as your thoughts on the katseye documentary
4:42 fortunately they now have people like Daniela from KATSEYE to hold it down authentically so yerrr
Well, I don't mind Lesserafim having dive into various kind of concept and releasing different kind of genre whatever reaction people give to them either it's negative or positive one... Unlike other Kpop group that were assigned or attached by their signature of specific concept... I'm sure most of Fearnot has different version of what they like about Lesserafim like how you think Sour Grape and Swan Song which you feel suitable for them some might think they are prefer other song whether it's good in vocal wise or not... That's why their albums has bunch of different genre and not stick on one thing because people prefer different things. It's a good way to attract listeners.
Lesserafim doesn't need to stick on one thing like how other people hope... They can do anything with what they want either it would give a positive impact or not since I think their concept is about challenging themselves fearlessly... That's why they don't need perfect outcome.
Neither of them deserved any hatred... Just like how we shouldn't be judgemental or critical about someone else efforts... Being a fan, is all about looking forward... If you're disappointed in one time, you can be anticipated for the next time.
Lesserafim is already perfect with the current member since of them has their own story and goal to conveyed... How they actually making it happened really is amazing. As long as Eunchae didn't show any sign of uncomfortable with how she were treated... I think it would be fine... She would always wanted to be seen and act like a grown up... The one who isn't in a right mind are labeled everything she did is intended sexualizing... We should appreciated how she put a hardwork to make it looked perfect so the choreo looked amazing... She didn't even emphasise her move obviously so how people think it's inappropriate?
Moreover, that's what you called fake fans and real one... The Fandoms are fine... Anyone can claims they are fans but actually they don't have good intentions or being sincere when giving their support and love. What's toxic are the Kpop fans... Nowadays, people can be a fan not just to a single gg but various... Then they compare this one and the other... That's how they may intentionally or not spreading hatred...
It's a good thing Garam being eliminated from being a member because of her controversy though it's unfair one... Like how Lesserafim has to through the massive hatred, it would be another horrific experience that Garam has to through... So never judge someone's fate that has happened... Whatevet her choice in a future... Let's hope she have the bright one.
@@sistersroomco2790 No matter Eunchae’s comfort, no matter if she wants to be perceived more maturely, no matter how hard she’s worked, and no matter how much emphasis she puts into inappropriate choreography, having a child shake their ass and grind on the floor for media consumption and money is intentional sexualization of that child.
@@lemonkookie Then we can blame her parents to allowing this from happening... Not just the agency... Since whatever it is... It's a child exploitation anyway...
@@sistersroomco2790 both are guilty. The parents for letting their child be in the situation and the agency for putting her in the situation in the first place. Her parents being guilty doesn't make source music any less at fault.
@@sistersroomco2790 I feel like her parents being at fault is self explanatory
@@loOla-s9g well it's not only source music to be in fault... The whole industry should be in fault too because allowing minors to be in part of such job... Just like how Sakura experience the same thing during her idol career in Japan. It's awful... However, we shouldn't dismissed that they themselves do their best to achieved a dreams they want to live... Protecting isn't about pointing out a fault but to recognised the problem and make a change so people don't sexualized such effort as a part of marketing but view as something else.
the way nobody said a thing about v and they be jumping at yunjin the double standart crazy 🤨💀
Nobody said a thing about V? Have you been living under a rock, the man received massive hate trains for posting a 2 year old picture.
Intro song🩷🥲, please name😭
@@Margaritaaa_p Symptom Of Life by WILLOW
@@lemonkookie thank you💗💗💗
first of all the song is called swan song not black swan
@@pinkpillowprincess first of all, if you were listening you would've heard me clearly say Swan Song, the captions are just wrong