You have put in a lot of effort and time into testing methodology making it easy to understand and see with the side by side examples. Thanks for the great video!
Just found this channel while researching the Asus 201, and the info and details are presented in a most helpful layout. Easy to compare, and very practical lists. Many useful numbers without the overwhelming amount some other channels pour out. Along with the useful MB settings I really loved the content! Keep up the great work, looking forward to future vids and hope your subs (along with mine 🤗) continue to rise. Thanks ... DT
Hello danytoob, welcome to my channel and am gald you like my content. I will try to keep up with such content too, but require sometime. thanks again for the subscribe and just some tricks which you might want to try out. This method of mine to apply thermal paste and getting feedback that the temperature did help to drop even furhter on their CPU ruclips.net/video/xZ2R4roF1_Q/видео.html
Hello J, welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback. hmm.. maybe this will interest you too. ruclips.net/video/YTojxRPyrQs/видео.html or some of my other videos which are all base on 28 to 30 degree celcius room temperature in Singapore.
Another potential plus with the A configuration is that air comes into the case via the filter at the bottom. This would reduce dust build up I suspect.
Hi Sean Ohsee, welcome to my channel. Infact positive air circulation is good and you are right. provided there are air filters which does a good job from dust. Thank you for your feedback 👍
Thank you so much for going in-depth about Temps for this case. I got the white version for a new build and it looks amazing. A breeze to build into as well
Hi Limmel, welcome to my channel. Thank you for your feedback and am glad you like this case. The white version of this case is at perfection too. The color is very uniform 😉
Great tests to see. Only flaw in the methodology I can see is taking an average of the absoulte Min/Max temp/speed for the results. It allows short spikes in the temperature to have a large effect of the final result (e.g. if it was 79 for 99% of the test but spiked to 81 for 1% that could be better than sitting at 80 for 100% of the test)
You are a top-notch builder and engineer. Very happy to come across your channel and support/subscribe to you. I just suggested this exact case to an online friend of mine and helped walk him through his very first build (he's only 19 years old) over a discord video call. He did great. He only has cable management left to do, and walking him through that over a video call would be rough, so I told him to just do his best :) Intuitively, I had him go with the "A" setup in your video for the fan directions. It makes logical sense with cool air coming in from down low, and hot air escaping from the top. Fighting nature is usually going to come with consequences. All of which you showed perfectly in your tests. Keep up the great content!
Some more details addressing fitment in your Part I & II videos: We were able to have the AIO at the top with the tubes near the back. No interference with the rear exhaust fan. We set the PSU cage to the middle setting. We were able to install 3 fans at the bottom intaking air. Although we got an ATX PSU; we were able to massage the PSU cables so that they do not interfere with the lower fan near the front of the case. We oriented the PSU to pull in air from the front of the case. This works well because the cool air comes in and shoots up and through the front radiator fan. It's all tight, but beautiful. Easily my favorite MATX case.
Hi TofuGuru, welcome to my channel. Wow, thank you for your valuable feedback and to have share your experience with your friend’s build. I am glad everything runs well for your friend. Thank you.
Wow this was a great video, thank you for doing this! I think B is the winner here personally, the overall higher positive pressure will result in more of the dust going through the filters in the bottom. I think a 240 mm AIO with a separate 3rd fan on the right side might actually perform better than a 360 mm AIO sucking up the hot air from the PSU. The only thing I don't like about this case is the fact that the whole PSU is inside it.. Frequently having to access the power switch to clear cmos seems like a pain
Hi A T, welcome to my channel and thank you for all your valuable feedback. I do see what you have pointed out as in to have it with style B. as for the AIO, infact I find that this case is better off using Aircooling but nevertheless you are right to use the 240 AIO with a fan right infront of it to draw hot air out. As for placement of the PSU, SFX is still ok.. the only problem I find is using a full ATX, cable mess that is and obstructions.
@@Chr0nicPvP hi welcome to my channel. Just curious what are the temps you are getting when doing aircooling? I have not tested with aircooling and my previous reply was based on assumption. Thank you for your feedback.
I've tested rear exhaust fan vs zero rear fan and there's no temp difference at all for GPU, CPU and x670e chipsets XD My ghetto side intake 120mm fans doesn't make any difference as well.
Hi Ouki, welcome to my channel. Mind if I ask where is your location when you test the thermal and what fans did you use to conduct the test. It’s interesting that you have mentioned no difference hmmm 🤔
Hi steelmaster56, welcome to my channel. This video might interest you as it’s my method to mount the aio at the top ruclips.net/video/lTGJp1vVl0k/видео.html
Really enlightning, thank you for this video and nice methodology. I'll go with setup A, with a slight tweak with the fan directly above the PSU as intake
I was going to buy a coolermaster NR200 but this case looks way better for me. Half the size of my current case, still fits the liquid freezer and has more space for a GPU. I'll probably follow your A configuration and bonus, that means only filtered air gets intaked.
Hi B fish, welcome to my channel. if you are fitting an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360. you might have to reconsider as the placement is tricky if you have a full ATX power supply. watch this and you will understand what I am trying to explain to you. ruclips.net/video/p-dyGeduWlw/видео.html
this is exactly what i was looking for. very similar build and i was trying a bunch of different configs with my 360mm in pushpull. my 3080tuf is so big i cant fit fans underneath so i put them underneath the case screwed in from above and then added a second set of feet to raise the case almost another inch
HI Mridul Krishan Sharma, welcome to my channel. Thanks for the info, when I try it, I don't seems to be able to. Nevertheless thank you for the info. 😉
Hi ishii-san, welcome to my channel, if you are to mount an additional fan to the front. it will cool your GPU future and pushes hot air out faster, which might aid with the CPU Temp.
C and D is hotter because you're using water radiator to cooling the CPU, so, that air intake will hit hot radiator, and then become hot air inside the system. I would like to see air cooling processor.
Hi Arifta Gunawan, welcome to my channel. Thank you for your feedback. I have returned this case to Asus SG, therefore not able to conduct aircooling. Guess you will need to test this yourself. So sorry about it.
I would love to saw a version where u dont even use bottom intake fans at all. In theory i think they are useless, because: 1. their airflow completely blocked by the GPU, 2. GPU fans do exactly to the same thing as pulling air from the bottom. Its seems redundant to me, like putting fans on top of each other... they just pulling air from bottom but GPU fans doing exactly the same.
Hi @CoffeeGameMovie, welcome to my channel. I would do that but I have returned this case. But with your info of what you have mentioned. It make sense. Can go without the bottom fans. If you do have a go for it. Do let us know the result. Thank you.
Not quite. In a completely sealed environment you’d be correct. However in a mesh case there is virtually no pressure difference between the inside and outside, so those gpu fans will suck in the air with the least resistance. With extra fans on the bottom to do the heavy lifting of pulling air through the filter and pushing it directly into the gpu everything is happy. But if there are no bottom fans the gpu will source air from anywhere it can, and that will almost never be through the filter. Does this matter for dust? Certainly, as the bulk of your air will probably be coming from the unfiltered side panel or pcie slot covers. More importantly, does this matter for temps? I’d say yes, but it would be nice to see some test data. The less turns air needs to make the better it will flow, and given two perfectly positioned fan mounts I don’t see why you wouldn’t take advantage.
I really love this case. I love the looks and airflow. Thank you for the very in depth review and benchmark. Does having an air cooler makes a lot of difference? I dont like having an AIO, i prefer aircooler. Do you think following style A is good?
Hi Raiyan Asaral, welcome to my channel, I have returned this case to Asus SG, I wish I can test it out to give you an answer but so sorry, not able to do so. You will need to test it on your own.
Thanks very much for such thorough testing; very interesting and useful. I don't know, but I imagine that A is drawing air in from the side and (possibly) front mesh panels so it is negative pressure in the case. Wouldn't it be worth running B for neutral or slightly positive pressure, given that the essential difference is power draw? Also, along a similar train of thought, would there be a benefit to separating the GPU and CPU with a blanking plate of some kind above the GPU? Maybe this might reduce mingling of hot GPU exhaust and cooler air in and around the case.
Hi Herbaceorus Boredome, welcome to my channel. yes you do have a point but for me, i normally do cleaning every 2 weeks to keep fans tip top, radiator clean and the case free from dust. All it's needed is just a portable blower. So ya, I would rather go with A to have the lowest temperature. Once again thank you for your feedback and to have visited my channel.
Hi Kleo, do you remember if the bottom fans make a meaningful impact? I'm running a 13600k + 4090 with 360 aio (exhaust) and the Asus case fan (intake). Temps are ok but after a long gaming session the whole case does feel quite hot. Considering if I should get extra fans for the bottom. Or, I'm even thinking of (somehow) mounting fans on the side panel. Thanks for the video!
Hi Robbie Chan, It does not really make any improvement to cool down the CPU but it does cool down by 2 to 3 degrees on the GPU. as I was using the Asus Tuff 3080
Hi youlicious, welcome back. Given the size of Lancool 216, there are lots more room in 216 compared to this case. Base on my own opinion, I would say 216 will be in upper hand. Nevertheless I will be doing the build soon on 216 then will be able to tell if this or 216 is better. I got to apologize to have let my viewers wait for the build on 216 and this case as am busy at work. nevertheless the 216 build will happen before Christmas.
Greetings from Argentina! I loved all the details of the video, excellent in the way that you covered all the points from the slightest to the most complicated, awesome! Consult... my idea is to buy this case , I would use it a lot to play games (also office tasks), but gaming does the hard work, could you tell me, based on your experience, a top 3 or top 5, of the best Matx cases with better temperatures? Thank you very much and I congratulate you again for the videos and the dedication in them.
Hi Charles, welcome to my channel and do pardon me for the late reply, I miss out on your comment as there are no notification in my mailbox. Now as to find a good m-ATX case besides this AP201, I find the Montech D31 Mesh a good case too, it has similarity design but with a LCD panel where you can customize the dashboard. if you are looking for pure performance, I would go for cases like the Montech Air Lite 100 or Lian Li Lancool 216 (my favourite)
@@KleoYan Hello KleoYan thanks for answering! If you hit the sure key, you were referring to the Jonbos D31 Mesh, right? Because the Montech D31 doesn't exist I think, lol, the Jonbos D31 is my favorite, but unfortunately no one distributes it in my country yet, otherwise I would have already bought it, it was my first option :(. I like the Montech Air Lite 100 or Lian Li Lancool 216 models but the design doesn't quite convince me, for example I really like the Corsair 280x rgb, it's very nice for its design and its tempered glass and the possibility that the power supplie separate, but it doesn't have excellent airflow, logically it would be better if it were mesh, I like the cases not very high, I continue with the legendary NZXT phantom 410, it is very big! I want something smaller :D.
@@Anyntycoiko Sorry my bad, it's the Jonsbo D31. I see. NZXT case i have yet to do any or experience any. This you will need to decide. thanks or correcting my mistake.
Hi Aiman Faiz, welcome to my channel, I wish I can do the aircooler test but I've returned this case to Asus SG right after I have done this content. So sorry about it.
Whats the temps without the bottom intake? I have a mobo with a lowered pcie slot and a 3 slot gpu, i dont know if adding more fans at the bottom would really prove to be beneficial. Im worried about creating turbulence cause the case fans are so close to the gpu
Hi sahara tajim, welcome to my channel. the configuration are as follow :- Top - 3 x 120mm fans (exhuast On 360 liquid AIO radiator) Bottom - 2 x 120mm fans (intacke) Rear - 1 x 120mm fan (exchuast)
@@saharatajim6625 Hi, to be honest, I have not test dust on these configurations as this case is a loan unit, which I have returned to Asus Singapore. So sorry about that.
just asking but have you tested out the CoolerMaster Q300l, or q300l v2, if so was the thermal performance better or worse compared to the ASUS PRIME AP201. As i am thinking of switching to a smaller + more portable pc case for my Matx motherboard build, as i am going to university this sept.
Hi Rohit Yadav, welcome to my channel, I wish I can test that out too. So sorry that I can't answer your question as I have returned this case back to Asus.
I have this build and I changing motherboards to the ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X670E GENE. I am going to change my fan setup as well. Is it an good idea to have 3 120mm intake fans, 3 aio fans exhausting and the back case 120mm as intake or exhaust?
Hi Rolando Villegas, welcome to my channel, if you are referring to the bottom as 3 x 120mm fans. you might have some issues to fit the fan below your PSU. it depends on your PSU Size. in general if able to populate 3 x 120mm intake from the bottom, your GPU will enjoy more cooling as for CPU, it's very minimal.
HELLO . i want to combine 13700k + noctua nh d15. Can you give me advice with case ap201? It seems option B is good for air cooling but also the most dusty.
Hello Siêng Ham Học, welcome to my channel. Option B is only good if your noctuc is exhausting hot air out to the top and not the rear. This will be of a good choice. As for dust, you can't avoid. this is the nature of this case. All is needed is weekly cleaning using a portable air blower.
Was looking for this kinda comparison. You aced it! However, I was wondering what orientation out of A/B/C/D I shall use as I have AG620 air cooler? Please share your inputs.
HI drillerBoy YT, welcome to my channel. Do pardon me as I have no experience on Air Cooler, you will have to test the fan location. So sorry about it. However, my assumption will be configurate A. Give it a try and let use know your results. thank you!
im planning to do a build on this case and was considering to go with 360mm aio on top and can we add 2 fans on the side panel by drilling some holes and fixing them ? modding them for better air flow on a mesh side panel
Hi Veera Sekar, welcome to my channel as I have returned this chassis to Asus Singapore. I can't be accurate to tell you if you can. However as I recall, there are still space to place for 2 x 120mm fan if you decide to mount two at the side, right above the AIO block. I suggest you use zip ties to hold the fans instead of drilling the chassis. It's made of steel, once you drill it will rust after a period.
Hello Kleo. I came across your video on the Asus AP201 more than a month ago, and I liked it so much that I decided to build my first PC with this case three weeks ago. Now, I have some questions and doubts. 1) Regarding the configuration you made in the UEFI, how would it be with Intel? 2) When I start playing something demanding, the power supply makes an electrical noise. Is this normal? Here are the components I bought: Asus B760M TUF, RTX 4070 TUF, i5 13400F, 16GB RAM 5200MHz, and an Asus 850W TUF power supply. What should I buy next to improve it? Unfortunately, I did not do the installation myself, but I THINK they did a good job; only the power supply is on the opposite side. Regarding the methodology for installing the fans inside the case to intake and exhaust air, I used the first one, option A. Just as I mentioned, the power supply is facing outward and not inward. Is it okay this way
Hi Christopher, welcome back to my channel and thank you for valuable feedback. 1) Regarding the configuration you made in the UEFI, how would it be with Intel? There are two methods to tweak an intel 13th Gen processor. First method is to use software which is directly from Intel, the application is call XTU, thats where you play with the VCore voltage or to play with the clock frequency or more. Second method which I often used is on UEFI itself. I will set the power limit (PL1 and PL2) and to do Vcore offset. you can refer to this video even though it's not a Tuf board. ruclips.net/video/VZeh4gwac3o/видео.htmlsi=QjIi9mfPLj4uQhHW&t=3182 (watch the actual timestamp and please note, I not an expert on this) 2) When I start playing something demanding, the power supply makes an electrical noise. Is this normal? A) This should not be the case. The power supply you have, it's a good PSU. You might want to double check the connection cables between your PSU to your motherboard, GPU and etc. If it still gives you electrical noise. I would advise you to send your PSU for RMA if it's under warranty. Here are the components I bought: Asus B760M TUF, RTX 4070 TUF, i5 13400F, 16GB RAM 5200MHz, and an Asus 850W TUF power supply. What should I buy next to improve it? Unfortunately, I did not do the installation myself, but I THINK they did a good job; only the power supply is on the opposite side. Regarding the methodology for installing the fans inside the case to intake and exhaust air, I used the first one, option A. Just as I mentioned, the power supply is facing outward and not inward. Is it okay this way A) I like the idea of your PSU drawing cool air instead of drawing the warm air from the interior. choosing option A is good, but what type of cooling are you using? Aircooling or Liquid cooling? Hope all these aid you out.
@@KleoYan Hello Kleo, thank you very much for responding. 1) I realized I had forgotten something, and it was the cooling. Well, due to tight budget constraints, I bought an air cooler, the DeepCool AG400 Plus. I hope it is sufficient for the processor I have. 2) I conducted tests on the electrical noise. I disassembled the power supply, adjusted the cables (which I hope are the correct ones), checked that everything is properly connected, and tested games like Valorant, Counter-Strike 2, Valheim, etc., without a frame rate limit. I have noticed that the GPU is making noise, Kleo. I don't know if I fixed the issue with the power supply, but the power supply no longer beeps. Now, the GPU beeps when I play demanding games. I wonder if that has always been the case, and I may have been mistaken in identifying the component at the beginning. 3) I managed to watch the video that you shared with me. I am very interested in doing that and thus extending the lifespan of my components, both the CPU and the GPU. I'm not sure if the video also addresses GPU issues, or if you have a video explaining that, Kleo. This is what I was able to do all night yesterday. I apologize if I have been late in responding.
Love your content man! For compare,here is mine temps - Got the TG model so there is not much of airflow... CPU is i5 13600K with a Jonsbo HX6210 tower cooler,6 120 Artic Fans (bottom 2 intakes and other 4 out) and the GPU is ASUS Strix 3060Ti. While long therm gaming,Cyberpunk 2077,the CPU goes from 74 to max 80°C and GPU max is 58°C. I wonder if new CPU cooler helps i bit,but if there is a point to smash 250€ for and AiO and get 5°C to 10°C lower temps? Other than that,i just love the case! Wish i post a pic of my white build 😊
Hello Marek Kocian, welcome to my channel. Thank you for your insight of this case, really appreciated it. as for the CPU Cooler, I dont think you really need that as you've stated your max temp for CPU is at 80°C and GPU max at 58°C. These are very good thermal results. I feel that it's not necessary to get a liquid AIO just for a few degrees drop.
hi Kleo this video is really helpful but may i ask? how about if i use 280mm radiator on top, can i add 1 more 120mm fan on the top part of psu for more out take flow?
Hi Rome Jek, welcome to my channel, I would not advise you to place a 280 Liquid AIO as there might be no clearance for your motherboard VRM heatsink. you might want to watch this -> ruclips.net/video/p-dyGeduWlw/видео.html .
hi Huy Vu, welcome to my channel. you are only able to place 2 times 120mm fans and at the bottom, it does come with a dust filter, you should watch this.. details of this case ruclips.net/video/p-dyGeduWlw/видео.html
@@KleoYan Hello again Kleo, do you think if a low-profile CPU cooler is much better for small factor case like AP201? I am using a single tower for AP201, but the airflow looks chaotic as the CPU cooler is "chunky" now although the temp is good enough.
@@ceeril hi and welcome back. It depends which low profile cooler you are getting. Also to which processor you are using. If you are using highend processor then I would advise you to get a beefy low profile heatsink. Now do pardon me as I am not very profound on low profile aircoolers. This you might have to do some research .
hi Oz B, welcome to my channel, for configuration A it does causes negative pressure and dust will start to accumulate but if you can tweak the top and rear fans so that the amount of air going in from the bottom will match the exhaust then this will elimate dust accumulation.
I thinking of buy this case but use a Thermalright phantom spirit instead of aio, and mabye going with the C configuration. Keeping the dust out. Curious on what you think or if there are any that have tested with air cooler
@@simonmllerjensen8209 hi and welcome to my channel. For aircooler which I did try before returning this case. C configuration is good if you do it this way. Have the front top fan as intake and the rest top fans as exhaust. You wouldn’t want to blow the hot air back into the case. So the configuration as follow. Top - 1 intake (top front) + 2 exhaust (top rear) Bottom - 2 intake Rear - 1 exhaust. Of course you can try it out yourself.
Thank you! So glad I found your channel. You have many very informative videos. Looking forward to your future videos I’m not sure I understand your reasoning for having the top front fan as intake and the 2 other as exhaust? Is it because of the exhaust fan at the back? I building it with a SFX psu, a 3 fan gpu and thermalright PA. I was planning to install 7 fans 3 intake at the top 3 intake at the bottom 1 exhaust at the back Thanks for replying
@@simonmllerjensen8209 hi, though congifuration C looks ideal but the problem is this.. 1st bottom fans passes through the GPU and to push warm air towards the top section, 2nd the top where it pulls in cool air to cool the air cooler heatsink, the warm air from the heatsink only area to exhuast is the rear, plus mix with the warm air at the bottom up. Therefore more warm air is being traped inside your case. That's the reason why I've suggested this configuration which I have tested. Top - 2 x exhaust (rear 2 fans) - this is to exhaust the heat from the air cooler heatsink and the bottom warm air going upwards. Top - 1 x intake (front top) - to being in cool air at the front of the air cooler where it will pass though the front air cooler heatsink and then air cooler fans will draws the cool air from the front and to push hot air out to the rear. Rear - 1 x exhaust - as usual, the warm air is being exhuast in this area. You don't really have to follow my configuration but give it a try to see the thermal difference.
@@simonmllerjensen8209 yup that’s good. Reviewers testing can only be a rough gauge as factors like different climate, different case fan uses. So it’s still best to test it out. 👍👍👍
Hi Hoang Nam Vu, welcome to my channel. if you are using an Air Cooler, it might be different from the temp readings here. you have to test it out as using option A with Aircooler, I have no idea how the temp is like as I did not test with an air cooler.
When i switch my configuration from A to B, I got 10 celsius lower cpu with 240 aio. With Spiderman remastered, from 75 to 65. With cinebench, from 79 to 73. Probably, everybody should try with their own build. This video should not fit with your build.
@@berkunal3965 hmm, interesting, I did not know there is a tempered glass version, so am not able to answer to your question. You might want to give it a try. so sorry about this.
Hi Kaustav Sen, welcome to my channel. For Air cooler if you can flow the air to the top instead of the rear. That will be good. But orientation will be rear intake. Top exhaust. Bottom intake and aircooler is placed to exhaust hot air to the top. That will be my opinion
Hi romain _, welcome to my channel. There will be more dust and all is needed is regular cleaning. I mean this case has a small foot print, only thing you will need to compromise is dust.
hi kleo, i am getting this case but i not sure to use aio cooling or air cooling ( tower type). for this case, which one do you think is better? air tower cooling or aio?
Hello kh, welcome to my channel, I have no experience using an Aircooler in this case. I would have try but I have returned this case back to Asus SG. sorry about it.. I can't answer your question. but you might want to try asking at Asus Reddit forum. www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/
@@Kharn5988 you are most welcome. I hope you can test it out and on my end I will try to figure something out. Will let you know if I am able to get hold of this case and to test it with an aircooler.
Hi Sick, welcome back, it greatly depends on what system you have build into this case. if it's mid tier build, you might get away with just 1 intake and 2 exhuast but if it's of a high tier, then it's insufficient.
@@KleoYan Hello! Its a 4060 ti and a ryzen 5 7600x,so mid range right?I am planning to do 1 intake and 2 exhaust and dont want any temperature issues.So is it fine?
Im building in this case next week. Im choosing to use a large air cooler with 2 fans vs. water cooling. I was planning to use it with option A. What are your suggestions for using 3x120 vs 2x140mm top/bottom fans? Thank you for all this research!
Hi Jesse Webb, welcome to my channel, I would go for 140mm fans in Air mode. have the top 2 x 140mm, rear 1 x 120mm and bottom 2 x 140mm. You will have more airflow and it's going to be quiet.
Hello Omar Pabon, welcome to my channel. what you have stated is correct. Infact if you can place your Air Cooler to blow air out at the top will be ideal. This can be alittle tricky as not all Air Cooler can do that.
Hello The Official Florida Man, welcome to my channel. I dont think is a good idea to do push pull configuration at the top. your hose might have issues to route, unless you place it at the back and that might lose a rear fan placement too.
Hi Chlak, welcome to my channel, do pardon me. I won't be doing any air cooler test. I see what I can do in future on other PC Chassis. thank you for your request.
I was thinkig of getting 2x140 fan top, 1x120 fan rear, 2x120 fan bottom and 1x80 fan front. How would you manage to controll the different sizes? One hub controller, splitters... IDK
Hi Pau Homs, welcome to my channel. For the fan RPM, I just plug then directly to the montherboard Fan headers. CPU_FAN for radiator, CHA_FAN 4 for the bottom and CHA_FAN 1 for the rear. As for the ARGB, i am using the argb hub.
Hi Alejandro M.P, welcome to my channel, it has better temp and as for negative pressure, maybe you can pick B. It's flexible, everyone has his or her choice. Nevertheless, thank you for your valuable feedback.
A bit worried if have hard drives at the bottom there will be a lot of heat to the GPU have you been able to test that configuration? Since I have ordered this case but will be using two 3.5 inch hard drives for storage and SSD for OS and games.
I have a hard drive under my 4080 and i can tell you that the temps are normal during load but the fans spin with higher rpms and therefore they produce a lot of noise. I am considering transfering the hdd on an external powered case in order for the gpu fans to have more space to breathe...
@@KleoYan So i like to make a follow up regarding the hdd.I just removed it and tested my system in a couple of games that are taxing on the gpu. The fan noise reduced significantly without the hdd at the bottom which leads me to the conclusion that because the two out of three fans of the gpu had so small clearance from the hdd led to higher noise levels! Hope that helps anyone who is considering placing one under a triple slot gpu..
hello Sola, welcome to my channel. How to discript the noise to you? for me is quiet, at load yes it's abit noisy but bearable when it's just 1/2 meter away from me.
hi João Furtado, welcome to my channel. the space infront is rather tight, unless you do Air Cooling instead of Liquid cooling and to use a SFX power supply, where you can move the PSU cage up.
Perhaps I am late to the party, but with air cooling and six fans, what fan placement should I opt for to minimize dust intake in the AP201 case? My place can be pretty dusty in bad days. Or perhaps I shouldn't go for this case?
I kinda plan for having two intake bottom, one rear exhaust and 3 top exhaust, with fan speed adjusted so that 4 exhaust will run at lower speed, enough for 2 intake fans + passive intake from mesh sides to bring in more air.
@@YoukoZuki hi welcome to my channel. for the dust issue, so long you dust off once a week with a portable blower, you will be all good. As for fan adjustment, As what I been experiencing, since it's all mesh. The airflow is more of a suction from the exhaust fans. The cool air that pushes from the the bottom, that has minimal effect to bring in cool air as it's directly going to the GPU. it will be best not to tune too low for your exhaust. hope this help.
@@KleoYan oh pardon me, but i forgot to ask this: i heard it is hard to build positive air pressure for a full mesh case, so opting for exhaust build (Setting A) would works better both for thermal and dust prevention? I imagine that the exhaust fan will suck up finer dust that goes inside through side mesh holes and push them outside of the case. Obviously it wont beat frequent dusting, but i think dust would accumulate not very fast.
@@KleoYan would you plan to have smoke in airflow test ? This was the most detailed review I can get for a pc case out there, many thanks 🙏 Would you think this ap201 is a good case for thermal exhaustion?
@@thanatosor for the plan on smoke in airflow test, I might or might not do it as for thermal, since this is an all mesh case, it does have good thermal results.
Hi baldriss, welcome to my channel, yes it will be different, that's the characteristic of a Zen 4 7959X. by default the more cooling solution you can provide this processor, it will push to draw more power inorder to sustain higher clock frequency.
Hello Fayzenberg, welcome to my channel if it’s the GPU die is ok. You might want to see the TJ junction / hotspot temp on your vrams. If it’s max 86. It’s all good
Nice, but I wish you'd done more than 4 configurations for this case as there are at least 4 other major configs (bottom exhaust, which seems counter-intuitive). I doubt those other configs would've proved better, but then I didn't think that D would be good at all.
Hello The PC Expert Amateur, welcome back, thanks for the valuable feedback. Understood your point, if I ever revisit this case again. I will conduct those test. Thanks again for your feedback.
@@ThePCExpertAmateur you are most welcome and thanks to you too to have provided some valid points where it should improve the way I conduct simpliar test on other cases.
@@ThePCExpertAmateur thank you..btw I am not really a reviewer, I am just curious about PC stuff as in how they work. As a PC Builder, I don't fancy marketing gimmicks on B-Rolls and such, I like to learn about stuff, just like yourself, This way it helps me gain knowledge and to have better content to share. Thank you as you have no idea how much I appreciated your feedbacks and suggestions.
Hi fivemissiles, welcome to my channel and thank you for your kind words. Hope you did find this content useful and all the very best with your build too. 😉
@@KleoYan am building a pc for my gf with some spare parts and have decided with her to use the AP201. I did find your testing quite helpful and will likely go with the “A” set up for the lower overall temps on the motherboard. Thank you for this video it is amazing help!
Hi NewEra, welcome to my channel. If you have watch the whole content or to skip with timestamp, you should be able to estimate what's best for you. You have to test it out too as i am testing in a hot and humid area. Thank you!
Hey what if Im using Air cooler for the cpu should I orient it in standard position or fan dacing downwards(ive seen some build with this setup with bottom to top airflow orientation), which is better? Glad to hear ur opinion.
Hi OrangKing, welcome to my channel. this will be tricky on aircooler. Reason is, for AMD you can only mount one direction which is to have air push from the front and exhuast to the rear. reason is, AMD mounting is not square is rectangular. As for intel, yes it's square mount and you can rotate but it also depends on your Aircooler Heatsink clearance, what you will need to worry about if you rotate it, does it hit your motherboard VRM heatsink at the top. In my opinion for Intel that is. if it's possible to have Aircooler rotates without hitting the top VRM heatsink, as what you've mentioned, yes it's ideal and the configuration as follow Aircooler drawing air from bottom to top style. (Intel only, without clearance issue) - Bottom fans intake - Rear fan intake - Top fans exhaust
@@KleoYan You have my thanks on replying to my comment and question👍. Thank you for clarifying it for me, and now, i finally know that it only works on Intel cpus and certain air coolers. So my expectation is that it should be fine if I follow your guide and everything will be okay. Its my first time encountering a smaller form factor than standard matx cases and in kinda interested in building one which is why im doing tons of research first without wasting my time finding the right article about this. You helped me a lot. I hate that there are not a lot of videos about this case with an air cooler for the cpu, given the fact that its a mesh all around.
You have put in a lot of effort and time into testing methodology making it easy to understand and see with the side by side examples. Thanks for the great video!
Hello kimo hacio, welcome to my channel and thank you for your valuable feedback. 👍
that was some of the most detailed fan orientation results I have ever seen - you earned a like and sub!
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Just found this channel while researching the Asus 201, and the info and details are presented in a most helpful layout. Easy to compare, and very practical lists. Many useful numbers without the overwhelming amount some other channels pour out. Along with the useful MB settings I really loved the content! Keep up the great work, looking forward to future vids and hope your subs (along with mine 🤗) continue to rise.
Thanks ... DT
Hello danytoob, welcome to my channel and am gald you like my content. I will try to keep up with such content too, but require sometime. thanks again for the subscribe and just some tricks which you might want to try out. This method of mine to apply thermal paste and getting feedback that the temperature did help to drop even furhter on their CPU ruclips.net/video/xZ2R4roF1_Q/видео.html
BEST AP201 VIDEOS ON RUclips! Great job!
Hi Shelby Jenkins, welcome to my channel and thank you for your kind words. I am glad you do like my content and all the best with your build too. 😊
Finally! Test benchmark on a tropical country.. We have the same ambient temps here in PH and this is what we need.
Hello J, welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback. hmm.. maybe this will interest you too. ruclips.net/video/YTojxRPyrQs/видео.html or some of my other videos which are all base on 28 to 30 degree celcius room temperature in Singapore.
Another potential plus with the A configuration is that air comes into the case via the filter at the bottom. This would reduce dust build up I suspect.
Hi Sean Ohsee, welcome to my channel. Infact positive air circulation is good and you are right. provided there are air filters which does a good job from dust. Thank you for your feedback 👍
Thank you so much for going in-depth about Temps for this case. I got the white version for a new build and it looks amazing. A breeze to build into as well
Hi Limmel, welcome to my channel. Thank you for your feedback and am glad you like this case. The white version of this case is at perfection too. The color is very uniform 😉
Great tests to see. Only flaw in the methodology I can see is taking an average of the absoulte Min/Max temp/speed for the results. It allows short spikes in the temperature to have a large effect of the final result (e.g. if it was 79 for 99% of the test but spiked to 81 for 1% that could be better than sitting at 80 for 100% of the test)
Hi Necro Editing, welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback. you have a good point there.
You are a top-notch builder and engineer.
Very happy to come across your channel and support/subscribe to you.
I just suggested this exact case to an online friend of mine and helped walk him through his very first build (he's only 19 years old) over a discord video call.
He did great. He only has cable management left to do, and walking him through that over a video call would be rough, so I told him to just do his best :)
Intuitively, I had him go with the "A" setup in your video for the fan directions. It makes logical sense with cool air coming in from down low, and hot air escaping from the top.
Fighting nature is usually going to come with consequences. All of which you showed perfectly in your tests.
Keep up the great content!
Some more details addressing fitment in your Part I & II videos:
We were able to have the AIO at the top with the tubes near the back. No interference with the rear exhaust fan.
We set the PSU cage to the middle setting.
We were able to install 3 fans at the bottom intaking air.
Although we got an ATX PSU; we were able to massage the PSU cables so that they do not interfere with the lower fan near the front of the case.
We oriented the PSU to pull in air from the front of the case. This works well because the cool air comes in and shoots up and through the front radiator fan.
It's all tight, but beautiful.
Easily my favorite MATX case.
For those interested in the specs:
CPU $368.58
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core
CPU Cooler $104.66
Deepcool LS720 SE 360mm AIO LiquidCooler
Motherboard $169.99
Gigabyte B650M AORUS ELITE AX
Memory $109.99
TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30
Storage $164.99
Crucial T700 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME
Video Card $699.99
Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20GB
Case $79.99
Asus Prime AP201 MicroATX
Power Supply $144.99
Deepcool PX1000G 1000W 80+ Gold Modular ATX
Case Fans $40.89
ARCTIC P12 PST A-RGB 48.8 CFM 120mm 3-Pack
Monitor $249.00
LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor
Keyboard $39.99
Cooler Master SK622 RGB Bluetooth/Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse $34.99
Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse
Headset $74.98
Sennheiser GAME ZERO Headset
Total: $2283.03
Hi TofuGuru, welcome to my channel. Wow, thank you for your valuable feedback and to have share your experience with your friend’s build. I am glad everything runs well for your friend. Thank you.
You are doing Gods work! Thank you very much!!
Hi Kasper Vendler, welcome to my channel and Merry Christmas. You are most welcome and thanks for the compliment too.
Wow this was a great video, thank you for doing this! I think B is the winner here personally, the overall higher positive pressure will result in more of the dust going through the filters in the bottom.
I think a 240 mm AIO with a separate 3rd fan on the right side might actually perform better than a 360 mm AIO sucking up the hot air from the PSU.
The only thing I don't like about this case is the fact that the whole PSU is inside it.. Frequently having to access the power switch to clear cmos seems like a pain
Hi A T, welcome to my channel and thank you for all your valuable feedback. I do see what you have pointed out as in to have it with style B. as for the AIO, infact I find that this case is better off using Aircooling but nevertheless you are right to use the 240 AIO with a fan right infront of it to draw hot air out. As for placement of the PSU, SFX is still ok.. the only problem I find is using a full ATX, cable mess that is and obstructions.
@@KleoYan Probably not better with air cooling for an i7 14700k lol
@@Chr0nicPvP hi welcome to my channel. Just curious what are the temps you are getting when doing aircooling? I have not tested with aircooling and my previous reply was based on assumption. Thank you for your feedback.
What an incredibly useful video. Thank you for sharing!
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Great vid, worth another sub. Great methodology and simple explanations. Keep it up ;)
Hi YeOldePedro, welcome to my channel and thank you for your valuable feedback. All the best with your build too.
Just ordered my AP201 case, this will be very helpful
Hi Zukov, welcome to my channel and I am glad this content did help you in someways. All the best with your build too. 😉
Excellent analysis!
@@letssuperfuntime hi and welcome to my channel. Thank you for your feedback and all the best with your build too 😉
I've tested rear exhaust fan vs zero rear fan and there's no temp difference at all for GPU, CPU and x670e chipsets XD
My ghetto side intake 120mm fans doesn't make any difference as well.
Hi Ouki, welcome to my channel. Mind if I ask where is your location when you test the thermal and what fans did you use to conduct the test. It’s interesting that you have mentioned no difference hmmm 🤔
Thank you for this detailed testing methodology!
Hi Kernel Panda Gaming, welcome to my channel. I am glad you like this content. all the best wtih your build too. 😉
Very interesting. I also have the same case and plan to install water cooling. Thanks for the video.
Hi steelmaster56, welcome to my channel. This video might interest you as it’s my method to mount the aio at the top ruclips.net/video/lTGJp1vVl0k/видео.html
Really enlightning, thank you for this video and nice methodology. I'll go with setup A, with a slight tweak with the fan directly above the PSU as intake
Hi Azdeb, welcome to my channel and I am glad this content did aid you. All the very best with your build too 😉
I was going to buy a coolermaster NR200 but this case looks way better for me. Half the size of my current case, still fits the liquid freezer and has more space for a GPU. I'll probably follow your A configuration and bonus, that means only filtered air gets intaked.
Hi B fish, welcome to my channel. if you are fitting an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360. you might have to reconsider as the placement is tricky if you have a full ATX power supply. watch this and you will understand what I am trying to explain to you. ruclips.net/video/p-dyGeduWlw/видео.html
Very helpfull video i have been searching for the best placement of the fans and this video was helpfull thanks
Hi Ayhan Derin, welcome to my channel and thank you for your valuable feedback. All the best with your build too. 🙂
thanks for helping me to decide how to put fans
Hi Emrys Lee, welcome to my channel. I am gald this did aid you. All the very best with your build. 😉
Underrated Channel,def deserve more views
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Excellent, excellent video
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Best tests!
I’m Use A style with Asus dual 6600XT and Full overclock 2800/2200 Temp Avg. 66
Hello YoUSeLLGuN, welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback.
Thanks for the in-depth testing!
Hello James Kephart, welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback. All the best with your build too.
I was looking for something like this. Thanks, man!
Hi lyb, welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback.
this is exactly what i was looking for. very similar build and i was trying a bunch of different configs with my 360mm in pushpull. my 3080tuf is so big i cant fit fans underneath so i put them underneath the case screwed in from above and then added a second set of feet to raise the case almost another inch
Hello f2bacon, welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback. 👍
thank you for the testing, i just bought the case!
Hi Adrian Motyka, welcome to my channel, thank you to have visited my channel and all the very best with your build too. 😉
Nice video sir, I saw a builder managed to fit a 3rd fan in the. Bottom 😂😂
HI Mridul Krishan Sharma, welcome to my channel. Thanks for the info, when I try it, I don't seems to be able to. Nevertheless thank you for the info. 😉
what If you add a intake fan in the front below the PSU?
Hi ishii-san, welcome to my channel, if you are to mount an additional fan to the front. it will cool your GPU future and pushes hot air out faster, which might aid with the CPU Temp.
C and D is hotter because you're using water radiator to cooling the CPU, so, that air intake will hit hot radiator, and then become hot air inside the system.
I would like to see air cooling processor.
Hi Arifta Gunawan, welcome to my channel. Thank you for your feedback. I have returned this case to Asus SG, therefore not able to conduct aircooling. Guess you will need to test this yourself. So sorry about it.
I would love to saw a version where u dont even use bottom intake fans at all. In theory i think they are useless, because: 1. their airflow completely blocked by the GPU, 2. GPU fans do exactly to the same thing as pulling air from the bottom. Its seems redundant to me, like putting fans on top of each other... they just pulling air from bottom but GPU fans doing exactly the same.
Hi @CoffeeGameMovie, welcome to my channel. I would do that but I have returned this case. But with your info of what you have mentioned. It make sense. Can go without the bottom fans. If you do have a go for it. Do let us know the result. Thank you.
Not quite. In a completely sealed environment you’d be correct. However in a mesh case there is virtually no pressure difference between the inside and outside, so those gpu fans will suck in the air with the least resistance. With extra fans on the bottom to do the heavy lifting of pulling air through the filter and pushing it directly into the gpu everything is happy. But if there are no bottom fans the gpu will source air from anywhere it can, and that will almost never be through the filter. Does this matter for dust? Certainly, as the bulk of your air will probably be coming from the unfiltered side panel or pcie slot covers. More importantly, does this matter for temps? I’d say yes, but it would be nice to see some test data. The less turns air needs to make the better it will flow, and given two perfectly positioned fan mounts I don’t see why you wouldn’t take advantage.
Please do a review of lian Li 205m mesh , along with thermal testing. It is a very pretty case and there is not a single review on RUclips.
Hello Anurag Bishnoi, welcome to my channel. I see what I can do, no promises, thank you!
Very helpful thanks for your effort my man!
Hi Gabe Nght, welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback. All the very best with your build too 😉
Great video. Keep up the great work!
hello machkick2, welcome to my channel and thank you for the feedback.😉
I really love this case. I love the looks and airflow. Thank you for the very in depth review and benchmark. Does having an air cooler makes a lot of difference? I dont like having an AIO, i prefer aircooler. Do you think following style A is good?
Hi Raiyan Asaral, welcome to my channel, I have returned this case to Asus SG, I wish I can test it out to give you an answer but so sorry, not able to do so. You will need to test it on your own.
Thank you for the information, this is a great video.
Hi Cynicram, welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback. I am glad you like the content and all the very best in your build too. 😉
Thanks very much for such thorough testing; very interesting and useful.
I don't know, but I imagine that A is drawing air in from the side and (possibly) front mesh panels so it is negative pressure in the case. Wouldn't it be worth running B for neutral or slightly positive pressure, given that the essential difference is power draw?
Also, along a similar train of thought, would there be a benefit to separating the GPU and CPU with a blanking plate of some kind above the GPU? Maybe this might reduce mingling of hot GPU exhaust and cooler air in and around the case.
Hi Herbaceorus Boredome, welcome to my channel. yes you do have a point but for me, i normally do cleaning every 2 weeks to keep fans tip top, radiator clean and the case free from dust. All it's needed is just a portable blower. So ya, I would rather go with A to have the lowest temperature. Once again thank you for your feedback and to have visited my channel.
Hi Kleo, do you remember if the bottom fans make a meaningful impact? I'm running a 13600k + 4090 with 360 aio (exhaust) and the Asus case fan (intake). Temps are ok but after a long gaming session the whole case does feel quite hot. Considering if I should get extra fans for the bottom. Or, I'm even thinking of (somehow) mounting fans on the side panel. Thanks for the video!
Hi Robbie Chan, It does not really make any improvement to cool down the CPU but it does cool down by 2 to 3 degrees on the GPU. as I was using the Asus Tuff 3080
Very detailed and exhaustive review as always. Do you think this case can compete with Lian li 216?
Hi youlicious, welcome back. Given the size of Lancool 216, there are lots more room in 216 compared to this case. Base on my own opinion, I would say 216 will be in upper hand. Nevertheless I will be doing the build soon on 216 then will be able to tell if this or 216 is better. I got to apologize to have let my viewers wait for the build on 216 and this case as am busy at work. nevertheless the 216 build will happen before Christmas.
Greetings from Argentina! I loved all the details of the video, excellent in the way that you covered all the points from the slightest to the most complicated, awesome! Consult... my idea is to buy this case , I would use it a lot to play games (also office tasks), but gaming does the hard work, could you tell me, based on your experience, a top 3 or top 5, of the best Matx cases with better temperatures?
Thank you very much and I congratulate you again for the videos and the dedication in them.
Hi Charles, welcome to my channel and do pardon me for the late reply, I miss out on your comment as there are no notification in my mailbox. Now as to find a good m-ATX case besides this AP201, I find the Montech D31 Mesh a good case too, it has similarity design but with a LCD panel where you can customize the dashboard. if you are looking for pure performance, I would go for cases like the Montech Air Lite 100 or Lian Li Lancool 216 (my favourite)
@@KleoYan Hello KleoYan thanks for answering! If you hit the sure key, you were referring to the Jonbos D31 Mesh, right? Because the Montech D31 doesn't exist I think, lol, the Jonbos D31 is my favorite, but unfortunately no one distributes it in my country yet, otherwise I would have already bought it, it was my first option :(.
I like the Montech Air Lite 100 or Lian Li Lancool 216 models but the design doesn't quite convince me, for example I really like the Corsair 280x rgb, it's very nice for its design and its tempered glass and the possibility that the power supplie separate, but it doesn't have excellent airflow, logically it would be better if it were mesh, I like the cases not very high, I continue with the legendary NZXT phantom 410, it is very big! I want something smaller :D.
@@Anyntycoiko Sorry my bad, it's the Jonsbo D31. I see. NZXT case i have yet to do any or experience any. This you will need to decide. thanks or correcting my mistake.
Interesting! Wondering what is the best configuration for air cooler instead
Hi Aiman Faiz, welcome to my channel, I wish I can do the aircooler test but I've returned this case to Asus SG right after I have done this content. So sorry about it.
Whats the temps without the bottom intake? I have a mobo with a lowered pcie slot and a 3 slot gpu, i dont know if adding more fans at the bottom would really prove to be beneficial. Im worried about creating turbulence cause the case fans are so close to the gpu
Hi Asimo, welcome to my channel. This you will have to test it out. So sorry can’t answer your question as I have returned this case to Asus SG.
Style A also has the big upside of only using the filtered panel for intake. Less maintenance
Hi Uranus, welcome to my channel. Thank you for your valuable feedback and to share your experience with outs. greatly appreciated it 👍
Man i love your videos so much
Hi Rakib Hasan, welcome to my channel and thank you for your valueable feedback. All the best with your build too 😉
I wonder if you can put 1 fan on the front below the power supply?
Hi Weezyyy Production, welcome back, yes it's possible if you are using a 240 Liquid AIO instead, but with mid tier processors.
1 more thing, do you think we can get or DIY a dust filter for this case?
Hi Raiyan Asaral, welcome to my channel. Yes you can but i strongly discourge it. the mesh panel will have obstruction from drawing air in or out.
How many fans on top,bottom you have used ?A,B,C,D??
Because i am conscious about dust
Hi sahara tajim, welcome to my channel. the configuration are as follow :-
Top - 3 x 120mm fans (exhuast On 360 liquid AIO radiator)
Bottom - 2 x 120mm fans (intacke)
Rear - 1 x 120mm fan (exchuast)
Which configuration will not consumed more dust??in your perspective A or B or C or D?
@@saharatajim6625 Hi, to be honest, I have not test dust on these configurations as this case is a loan unit, which I have returned to Asus Singapore. So sorry about that.
cant wait for mine to arrive :)
Hello BBIMM, welcome to my channel and am gald you have choosen this case. All the very best with your build.
Would love to see air cool vs AIO in this case.
Hi Sent, welcome to my channel, I wish I could but have returned this case to Asus SG, so sorry about that.
just asking but have you tested out the CoolerMaster Q300l, or q300l v2, if so was the thermal performance better or worse compared to the ASUS PRIME AP201. As i am thinking of switching to a smaller + more portable pc case for my Matx motherboard build, as i am going to university this sept.
Hi Ice, welcome to my channel. I wish I can answer you this question but I do not have those CM cases to test with. So sorry about it.
I was wondering how would style B would work the PSU fan towards the inside.
Hi Rohit Yadav, welcome to my channel, I wish I can test that out too. So sorry that I can't answer your question as I have returned this case back to Asus.
I have this build and I changing motherboards to the ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X670E GENE. I am going to change my fan setup as well. Is it an good idea to have 3 120mm intake fans, 3 aio fans exhausting and the back case 120mm as intake or exhaust?
Hi Rolando Villegas, welcome to my channel, if you are referring to the bottom as 3 x 120mm fans. you might have some issues to fit the fan below your PSU. it depends on your PSU Size. in general if able to populate 3 x 120mm intake from the bottom, your GPU will enjoy more cooling as for CPU, it's very minimal.
HELLO . i want to combine 13700k + noctua nh d15. Can you give me advice with case ap201? It seems option B is good for air cooling but also the most dusty.
Hello Siêng Ham Học, welcome to my channel. Option B is only good if your noctuc is exhausting hot air out to the top and not the rear. This will be of a good choice. As for dust, you can't avoid. this is the nature of this case. All is needed is weekly cleaning using a portable air blower.
Is there a way for you to do these test but on the TG version if this case to see the difference?
Hi Cruz Slns, welcome to my channel, I see what I can do, no promises though.
Was looking for this kinda comparison. You aced it!
However, I was wondering what orientation out of A/B/C/D I shall use as I have AG620 air cooler?
Please share your inputs.
HI drillerBoy YT, welcome to my channel. Do pardon me as I have no experience on Air Cooler, you will have to test the fan location. So sorry about it. However, my assumption will be configurate A. Give it a try and let use know your results. thank you!
Sure! @@KleoYan
@@drillerboyyt4027 thank you. all the very best with your build.
im planning to do a build on this case and was considering to go with 360mm aio on top and can we add 2 fans on the side panel by drilling some holes and fixing them ? modding them for better air flow on a mesh side panel
Hi Veera Sekar, welcome to my channel as I have returned this chassis to Asus Singapore. I can't be accurate to tell you if you can. However as I recall, there are still space to place for 2 x 120mm fan if you decide to mount two at the side, right above the AIO block. I suggest you use zip ties to hold the fans instead of drilling the chassis. It's made of steel, once you drill it will rust after a period.
@@KleoYan yah rust dint think of it
thanks !!
@@veerasekar you are most welcome and all the best with your build too.
Hello Kleo. I came across your video on the Asus AP201 more than a month ago, and I liked it so much that I decided to build my first PC with this case three weeks ago. Now, I have some questions and doubts. 1) Regarding the configuration you made in the UEFI, how would it be with Intel? 2) When I start playing something demanding, the power supply makes an electrical noise. Is this normal? Here are the components I bought: Asus B760M TUF, RTX 4070 TUF, i5 13400F, 16GB RAM 5200MHz, and an Asus 850W TUF power supply. What should I buy next to improve it? Unfortunately, I did not do the installation myself, but I THINK they did a good job; only the power supply is on the opposite side. Regarding the methodology for installing the fans inside the case to intake and exhaust air, I used the first one, option A. Just as I mentioned, the power supply is facing outward and not inward. Is it okay this way
Hi Christopher, welcome back to my channel and thank you for valuable feedback.
1) Regarding the configuration you made in the UEFI, how would it be with Intel?
There are two methods to tweak an intel 13th Gen processor. First method is to use software which is directly from Intel, the application is call XTU, thats where you play with the VCore voltage or to play with the clock frequency or more. Second method which I often used is on UEFI itself. I will set the power limit (PL1 and PL2) and to do Vcore offset. you can refer to this video even though it's not a Tuf board. ruclips.net/video/VZeh4gwac3o/видео.htmlsi=QjIi9mfPLj4uQhHW&t=3182 (watch the actual timestamp and please note, I not an expert on this)
2) When I start playing something demanding, the power supply makes an electrical noise. Is this normal?
A) This should not be the case. The power supply you have, it's a good PSU. You might want to double check the connection cables between your PSU to your motherboard, GPU and etc. If it still gives you electrical noise. I would advise you to send your PSU for RMA if it's under warranty.
Here are the components I bought: Asus B760M TUF, RTX 4070 TUF, i5 13400F, 16GB RAM 5200MHz, and an Asus 850W TUF power supply. What should I buy next to improve it? Unfortunately, I did not do the installation myself, but I THINK they did a good job; only the power supply is on the opposite side. Regarding the methodology for installing the fans inside the case to intake and exhaust air, I used the first one, option A. Just as I mentioned, the power supply is facing outward and not inward. Is it okay this way
A) I like the idea of your PSU drawing cool air instead of drawing the warm air from the interior. choosing option A is good, but what type of cooling are you using? Aircooling or Liquid cooling?
Hope all these aid you out.
@@KleoYan Hello Kleo, thank you very much for responding.
1) I realized I had forgotten something, and it was the cooling. Well, due to tight budget constraints, I bought an air cooler, the DeepCool AG400 Plus. I hope it is sufficient for the processor I have.
2) I conducted tests on the electrical noise. I disassembled the power supply, adjusted the cables (which I hope are the correct ones), checked that everything is properly connected, and tested games like Valorant, Counter-Strike 2, Valheim, etc., without a frame rate limit. I have noticed that the GPU is making noise, Kleo. I don't know if I fixed the issue with the power supply, but the power supply no longer beeps. Now, the GPU beeps when I play demanding games. I wonder if that has always been the case, and I may have been mistaken in identifying the component at the beginning.
3) I managed to watch the video that you shared with me. I am very interested in doing that and thus extending the lifespan of my components, both the CPU and the GPU. I'm not sure if the video also addresses GPU issues, or if you have a video explaining that, Kleo.
This is what I was able to do all night yesterday. I apologize if I have been late in responding.
Love your content man! For compare,here is mine temps - Got the TG model so there is not much of airflow... CPU is i5 13600K with a Jonsbo HX6210 tower cooler,6 120 Artic Fans (bottom 2 intakes and other 4 out) and the GPU is ASUS Strix 3060Ti. While long therm gaming,Cyberpunk 2077,the CPU goes from 74 to max 80°C and GPU max is 58°C. I wonder if new CPU cooler helps i bit,but if there is a point to smash 250€ for and AiO and get 5°C to 10°C lower temps? Other than that,i just love the case! Wish i post a pic of my white build 😊
Hello Marek Kocian, welcome to my channel. Thank you for your insight of this case, really appreciated it. as for the CPU Cooler, I dont think you really need that as you've stated your max temp for CPU is at 80°C and GPU max at 58°C. These are very good thermal results. I feel that it's not necessary to get a liquid AIO just for a few degrees drop.
Thanks for sharing it!
Hi Bonomork, welcome to my channel and thank you for your valuable feedback. All the best with your build too. 😉
hi Kleo this video is really helpful but may i ask? how about if i use 280mm radiator on top, can i add 1 more 120mm fan on the top part of psu for more out take flow?
Hi Rome Jek, welcome to my channel, I would not advise you to place a 280 Liquid AIO as there might be no clearance for your motherboard VRM heatsink. you might want to watch this -> ruclips.net/video/p-dyGeduWlw/видео.html .
@@KleoYan oh so just only 280mm fan and not aio cooler?
@@romejek it's 2 x 140mm fans. at the top.
Hello Kleo, does the bottom fit two 140mm fans & have a dust filter?
hi Huy Vu, welcome to my channel. you are only able to place 2 times 120mm fans and at the bottom, it does come with a dust filter, you should watch this.. details of this case ruclips.net/video/p-dyGeduWlw/видео.html
@@KleoYan G8, I'll check your in-depth review.
@@ceeril ok all the best with your build too 😉
@@KleoYan Hello again Kleo, do you think if a low-profile CPU cooler is much better for small factor case like AP201?
I am using a single tower for AP201, but the airflow looks chaotic as the CPU cooler is "chunky" now although the temp is good enough.
@@ceeril hi and welcome back. It depends which low profile cooler you are getting. Also to which processor you are using. If you are using highend processor then I would advise you to get a beefy low profile heatsink. Now do pardon me as I am not very profound on low profile aircoolers. This you might have to do some research .
does configuration A causes negative pressure? with all the holes around the case will collect a lot of dust.
hi Oz B, welcome to my channel, for configuration A it does causes negative pressure and dust will start to accumulate but if you can tweak the top and rear fans so that the amount of air going in from the bottom will match the exhaust then this will elimate dust accumulation.
I thinking of buy this case but use a Thermalright phantom spirit instead of aio, and mabye going with the C configuration. Keeping the dust out. Curious on what you think or if there are any that have tested with air cooler
@@simonmllerjensen8209 hi and welcome to my channel. For aircooler which I did try before returning this case. C configuration is good if you do it this way. Have the front top fan as intake and the rest top fans as exhaust. You wouldn’t want to blow the hot air back into the case. So the configuration as follow.
Top - 1 intake (top front) + 2 exhaust (top rear)
Bottom - 2 intake
Rear - 1 exhaust.
Of course you can try it out yourself.
Thank you! So glad I found your channel. You have many very informative videos. Looking forward to your future videos
I’m not sure I understand your reasoning for having the top front fan as intake and the 2 other as exhaust? Is it because of the exhaust fan at the back?
I building it with a SFX psu, a 3 fan gpu and thermalright PA. I was planning to install 7 fans
3 intake at the top
3 intake at the bottom
1 exhaust at the back
Thanks for replying
@@simonmllerjensen8209 hi, though congifuration C looks ideal but the problem is this.. 1st bottom fans passes through the GPU and to push warm air towards the top section, 2nd the top where it pulls in cool air to cool the air cooler heatsink, the warm air from the heatsink only area to exhuast is the rear, plus mix with the warm air at the bottom up. Therefore more warm air is being traped inside your case. That's the reason why I've suggested this configuration which I have tested.
Top - 2 x exhaust (rear 2 fans) - this is to exhaust the heat from the air cooler heatsink and the bottom warm air going upwards.
Top - 1 x intake (front top) - to being in cool air at the front of the air cooler where it will pass though the front air cooler heatsink and then air cooler fans will draws the cool air from the front and to push hot air out to the rear.
Rear - 1 x exhaust - as usual, the warm air is being exhuast in this area.
You don't really have to follow my configuration but give it a try to see the thermal difference.
@@KleoYanThanks! I differently try the configuration! Again thanks for the thorough explanation
@@simonmllerjensen8209 yup that’s good. Reviewers testing can only be a
rough gauge as factors like different climate, different case fan uses. So it’s still best to test it out. 👍👍👍
Hi, I'm planning buying this case, but don't want to change my bigass cooler (SE-226XT) and use option A, will it be good for the thermal?
Hi Hoang Nam Vu, welcome to my channel. if you are using an Air Cooler, it might be different from the temp readings here. you have to test it out as using option A with Aircooler, I have no idea how the temp is like as I did not test with an air cooler.
When i switch my configuration from A to B, I got 10 celsius lower cpu with 240 aio. With Spiderman remastered, from 75 to 65. With cinebench, from 79 to 73. Probably, everybody should try with their own build. This video should not fit with your build.
Hi cukkaSG, welcome to my channel. Thank you to share your experiences with a 240 Liquid aio in this case and it's positioning 👍
hey, great video! do you think does this work with tempered glass version too?
Hi Berk Unal, welcome to my channel. This case as what I know does not come with a tempered glass version.
@@KleoYan I have the tempered glass version, thinking about applying the same cooling methodology as in example A. Wonder if this works
@@berkunal3965 hmm, interesting, I did not know there is a tempered glass version, so am not able to answer to your question. You might want to give it a try. so sorry about this.
in what way should i arrange the fans if I plan to to use air cooler any suggestions
Hi Kaustav Sen, welcome to my channel. For Air cooler if you can flow the air to the top instead of the rear. That will be good. But orientation will be rear intake. Top exhaust. Bottom intake and aircooler is placed to exhaust hot air to the top. That will be my opinion
what about the dust? would that attract more dust (since more exhaust than intake)
Hi romain _, welcome to my channel. There will be more dust and all is needed is regular cleaning. I mean this case has a small foot print, only thing you will need to compromise is dust.
@@KleoYan thanks 😁
@@romain_2137 you are most welcome. all the best with your build too. 😎
hi kleo, i am getting this case but i not sure to use aio cooling or air cooling ( tower type). for this case, which one do you think is better? air tower cooling or aio?
Hello kh, welcome to my channel, I have no experience using an Aircooler in this case. I would have try but I have returned this case back to Asus SG. sorry about it.. I can't answer your question. but you might want to try asking at Asus Reddit forum. www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/
@@KleoYan okok, thx u for the reply
@@Kharn5988 you are most welcome. I hope you can test it out and on my end I will try to figure something out. Will let you know if I am able to get hold of this case and to test it with an aircooler.
Hello!,Will 2 exhaust and 1 intake be sufficent for this pc case?
Hi Sick, welcome back, it greatly depends on what system you have build into this case. if it's mid tier build, you might get away with just 1 intake and 2 exhuast but if it's of a high tier, then it's insufficient.
@@KleoYan Hello! Its a 4060 ti and a ryzen 5 7600x,so mid range right?I am planning to do 1 intake and 2 exhaust and dont want any temperature issues.So is it fine?
@@sick1405 it should be fine but you got to test it.
Im building in this case next week. Im choosing to use a large air cooler with 2 fans vs. water cooling. I was planning to use it with option A. What are your suggestions for using 3x120 vs 2x140mm top/bottom fans?
Thank you for all this research!
Hi Jesse Webb, welcome to my channel, I would go for 140mm fans in Air mode. have the top 2 x 140mm, rear 1 x 120mm and bottom 2 x 140mm. You will have more airflow and it's going to be quiet.
@@KleoYan How can you mount 2x 140mm at the bottom? I checked the user manual and it only suggested 140mm can only be mounted at the top
@@willy0297 hi, thanks for pointing this out. my bad.. only allow 2 x 120mm.. sorry about it.
Hey Jesse Webb, something to take note. bottom only allows 2 x 120mm. I made a mistake there.. please take note. thank you!
@@KleoYan yes thanks for the reply
I can imagine style B would be ideal with air cooled CPU
Hello Omar Pabon, welcome to my channel. what you have stated is correct. Infact if you can place your Air Cooler to blow air out at the top will be ideal. This can be alittle tricky as not all Air Cooler can do that.
Push/pull & including front intake?
Hello The Official Florida Man, welcome to my channel. I dont think is a good idea to do push pull configuration at the top. your hose might have issues to route, unless you place it at the back and that might lose a rear fan placement too.
will you be doing air cooler testing on this case?
Hi Chlak, welcome to my channel, do pardon me. I won't be doing any air cooler test. I see what I can do in future on other PC Chassis. thank you for your request.
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HI Emre Burak Y. , welcome to my channel and thank you for the heart 👍
I was thinkig of getting 2x140 fan top, 1x120 fan rear, 2x120 fan bottom and 1x80 fan front. How would you manage to controll the different sizes? One hub controller, splitters... IDK
Hi Pau Homs, welcome to my channel. For the fan RPM, I just plug then directly to the montherboard Fan headers. CPU_FAN for radiator, CHA_FAN 4 for the bottom and CHA_FAN 1 for the rear. As for the ARGB, i am using the argb hub.
@@KleoYan I see, thank you for your response!
@@pauhoms ypu are most welcome.
Why you pick A over B? Isnt negative pressure bad?
Hi Alejandro M.P, welcome to my channel, it has better temp and as for negative pressure, maybe you can pick B. It's flexible, everyone has his or her choice. Nevertheless, thank you for your valuable feedback.
A bit worried if have hard drives at the bottom there will be a lot of heat to the GPU have you been able to test that configuration? Since I have ordered this case but will be using two 3.5 inch hard drives for storage and SSD for OS and games.
Hi callecam, welcome to my channel, I have not tested with 3.5" HDD, therefore not able to tell you how the temperature is like. So sorry.
I have a hard drive under my 4080 and i can tell you that the temps are normal during load but the fans spin with higher rpms and therefore they produce a lot of noise.
I am considering transfering the hdd on an external powered case in order for the gpu fans to have more space to breathe...
@@Silverbolt1981 hi, welcome to my channel and thank you to have share your experience with us. Greatly appreciated it 👍
@@KleoYan So i like to make a follow up regarding the hdd.I just removed it and tested my system in a couple of games that are taxing on the gpu.
The fan noise reduced significantly without the hdd at the bottom which leads me to the conclusion that because the two out of three fans of the gpu had so small clearance from the hdd led to higher noise levels!
Hope that helps anyone who is considering placing one under a triple slot gpu..
@@Silverbolt1981 that’s a good finding. Thank you for sharing. 👍
how is the noise on the fans & psu?
hello Sola, welcome to my channel. How to discript the noise to you? for me is quiet, at load yes it's abit noisy but bearable when it's just 1/2 meter away from me.
@@KleoYan thx for the info
@@sola1412 you are most welcome.
Is it possible to put a fan on the front?
hi João Furtado, welcome to my channel. the space infront is rather tight, unless you do Air Cooling instead of Liquid cooling and to use a SFX power supply, where you can move the PSU cage up.
Quazii is that you? 😮
Hi Kibrael, welcome to my channel. Who is Quazii?
Were all case fans set to same speed?
Hi Byambadorj Lefever, welcome to my channel. The fans are if TF120 from Asus. They run at PWM max mode. It is not fix.
Perhaps I am late to the party, but with air cooling and six fans, what fan placement should I opt for to minimize dust intake in the AP201 case? My place can be pretty dusty in bad days. Or perhaps I shouldn't go for this case?
I kinda plan for having two intake bottom, one rear exhaust and 3 top exhaust, with fan speed adjusted so that 4 exhaust will run at lower speed, enough for 2 intake fans + passive intake from mesh sides to bring in more air.
@@YoukoZuki hi welcome to my channel. for the dust issue, so long you dust off once a week with a portable blower, you will be all good. As for fan adjustment, As what I been experiencing, since it's all mesh. The airflow is more of a suction from the exhaust fans. The cool air that pushes from the the bottom, that has minimal effect to bring in cool air as it's directly going to the GPU. it will be best not to tune too low for your exhaust. hope this help.
@@KleoYan Ah I see. Thanks for the reply.
@@YoukoZuki you are most welcome and all the best with your build.
@@KleoYan oh pardon me, but i forgot to ask this: i heard it is hard to build positive air pressure for a full mesh case, so opting for exhaust build (Setting A) would works better both for thermal and dust prevention? I imagine that the exhaust fan will suck up finer dust that goes inside through side mesh holes and push them outside of the case. Obviously it wont beat frequent dusting, but i think dust would accumulate not very fast.
Helpful content there 👌
Hello Olivier B, welcome to my channel and thank you for your valuable feedback. All the very best with your build too 😉
so A was the most optimized method.
Hello sorry I’m Late, welcome to my channel and yup in my test that is.
@@KleoYan would you plan to have smoke in airflow test ? This was the most detailed review I can get for a pc case out there, many thanks 🙏
Would you think this ap201 is a good case for thermal exhaustion?
@@thanatosor for the plan on smoke in airflow test, I might or might not do it as for thermal, since this is an all mesh case, it does have good thermal results.
Your power draw is vastly different...
Hi baldriss, welcome to my channel, yes it will be different, that's the characteristic of a Zen 4 7959X. by default the more cooling solution you can provide this processor, it will push to draw more power inorder to sustain higher clock frequency.
I've got the same case with the almost the same build based on A type build. The RTX TUF 3080 OC max at 71-73C. Is that okay?
Hello Fayzenberg, welcome to my channel if it’s the GPU die is ok. You might want to see the TJ junction / hotspot temp on your vrams. If it’s max 86. It’s all good
Nice, but I wish you'd done more than 4 configurations for this case as there are at least 4 other major configs (bottom exhaust, which seems counter-intuitive). I doubt those other configs would've proved better, but then I didn't think that D would be good at all.
Hello The PC Expert Amateur, welcome back, thanks for the valuable feedback. Understood your point, if I ever revisit this case again. I will conduct those test. Thanks again for your feedback.
@@KleoYan Thanks, Kleo! I wish you continued success!
@@ThePCExpertAmateur you are most welcome and thanks to you too to have provided some valid points where it should improve the way I conduct simpliar test on other cases.
@@KleoYan you deserve the thanks because of your hard work and open mind! :)
@@ThePCExpertAmateur thank you..btw I am not really a reviewer, I am just curious about PC stuff as in how they work. As a PC Builder, I don't fancy marketing gimmicks on B-Rolls and such, I like to learn about stuff, just like yourself, This way it helps me gain knowledge and to have better content to share. Thank you as you have no idea how much I appreciated your feedbacks and suggestions.
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Hi fivemissiles, welcome to my channel and thank you for your kind words. Hope you did find this content useful and all the very best with your build too. 😉
@@KleoYan am building a pc for my gf with some spare parts and have decided with her to use the AP201. I did find your testing quite helpful and will likely go with the “A” set up for the lower overall temps on the motherboard. Thank you for this video it is amazing help!
@@FiveMissiles Hi and welcome back. Wow, very nice of you👍👍👍, I am glad to be of help, all the very best buddy! 😉
guys please save my time can you pin and tell whats the best configuration?
Hi NewEra, welcome to my channel. If you have watch the whole content or to skip with timestamp, you should be able to estimate what's best for you. You have to test it out too as i am testing in a hot and humid area. Thank you!
This man is a genius
Hi ya MereReef, wecome back and thanks for the compliment. ☺
Hey what if Im using Air cooler for the cpu should I orient it in standard position or fan dacing downwards(ive seen some build with this setup with bottom to top airflow orientation), which is better? Glad to hear ur opinion.
Hi OrangKing, welcome to my channel. this will be tricky on aircooler. Reason is, for AMD you can only mount one direction which is to have air push from the front and exhuast to the rear. reason is, AMD mounting is not square is rectangular. As for intel, yes it's square mount and you can rotate but it also depends on your Aircooler Heatsink clearance, what you will need to worry about if you rotate it, does it hit your motherboard VRM heatsink at the top. In my opinion for Intel that is. if it's possible to have Aircooler rotates without hitting the top VRM heatsink, as what you've mentioned, yes it's ideal and the configuration as follow
Aircooler drawing air from bottom to top style. (Intel only, without clearance issue)
- Bottom fans intake
- Rear fan intake
- Top fans exhaust
@@KleoYan You have my thanks on replying to my comment and question👍. Thank you for clarifying it for me, and now, i finally know that it only works on Intel cpus and certain air coolers. So my expectation is that it should be fine if I follow your guide and everything will be okay. Its my first time encountering a smaller form factor than standard matx cases and in kinda interested in building one which is why im doing tons of research first without wasting my time finding the right article about this. You helped me a lot. I hate that there are not a lot of videos about this case with an air cooler for the cpu, given the fact that its a mesh all around.
@@orangking9523 You are most welcome. All the best with your build too 😉