A) Pelia has become my favorite member of the crew! B) Scotty running the transporter room as a Jr Engineer is actually nice to see. Seeing its around 2259, its plausible.
@@MarshallTheArtist this is the best Trek since DS9? bahahahahahahahahaha no. The best Trek lately was the Expanse followed by the Orville. This trash is just a a bad sitcom minus the laugh track. Its a complete embarrassment for all involved.
That, at least, could happen if Vulcan hair naturally grows differently than human hair (which, after all, has different natural ways of growing in different ethnic groups already). It's the automatically logical behavior that's the problem.
@@TheNoybusiness why? You base this on how unenlightened Vulcans hostorically delt poorly with their primal emotions, Requiring mental discipline. These are humans who've been accustomed to emotions all their lives. Why wouldn't self control be natural for the human mind? Why believe just because Vulcans couldn't handle their emotions human minds would also be unable to?
@SebastianKnapp-wy5tu it's winning me over with how playful it is. It's truly fiction, and less science. Although I prefer the drama of the Kirk and TNG era, it's OK to just be entertained by silly stuff.
@@lostfool Yes, but those Vulcans lacked perspective. It is illogical to say more than necessary, so "four and a half Vulcans" is demonstrably worse than simply saying "five."
That's what keeping a veritable inferno of raging emotions bottled up all the time does,@@IamMeHere2See. Especially if at has a very human desire to -troll- tease a friend at the heart of the inferno.
It seems illogical to me that changing their DNA (or whatever is changed to make them Vulcan) would make them behave differently or speak differently. Made from scratch Vulcans are raised in the culture and norms of their world. Vulcans decided to control their emotions because they are intense, but don’t they have training from childhood to deal with that?
Ooh, now that’s clever. Pellea had the same problem “during the 1960s and the 1990s”. AKA the historical periods of TOS and TNG, like the actress tried out for the series but didn’t get the part.
This series looks all about hair growth🤭 look at doctors microphone or uhura,even dr chapel has more hair🤣 the budget expanded for hairdressers I think🤧
I didn't expect the genetic and physical change would automatically come with the stringent behavioral modification predisposed to logic and an emotionless affect
Don't expect paramount to think anything through. Thats why they have spinning flipping mushroom drive ships in Discovery and why everyone in the federation transforms into either an idiot or a bigot in SNW to make their trash writing believable
Vulcans supposedly have extremely powerful emotional extremes. They began to suppress them after a massive war. The human crew would be... violently angry after this.
Wait...did they commit the teachings of Surak to memory before the injection, thus having the knowledge to instantly purge emotions? otherwise they would go nuts like Sarek with Bandai Syndrome.
Yeah I was thinking something similar. Don't Vulcans have to train really hard not to go mad from their own over emotional nature? Wouldn't this procedure being exceptionally dangerous and ill advised therefore? The very premise is garbage.
@@twrecks6279 i guess technically no? cause wouldn't they just function like non-angry romulans then, even if the dna of the serum was vulcan? then again, the human body or mind is probably more well equipped for the transition, as humans live with emotions their whole lives.
Apparently, they’re really leaning into turning Pike’s hair into a running joke throughout the series, which makes things interesting. Also… the lirpa twirling makes Pike look like a total badass, which is also good. Sorry we have to wait until next year to find out what this whole situation is all about, though.
It's only a clip here, so there is little context to the details of the mission (an energy system repair?). I wonder why Pike is carrying a lirpa (ancient Vulcan ceremonial weapon). We see La'an carrying a phaser rifle, so the potential for some threat must exist. I look forward to seeing if there is a plausible reason Pike is carrying the equivalent of a "spear" instead of more advanced 23rd-century technology, or if the writers just think it looks "cool" and "Vulcany." Given the lack of seriousness of what has been offered so far, I'll wager it's the latter.
I take your point but I think the point of this series is to mix whimsy with lore. To me, it’s a success even though it ploughs old ground. Honestly, things have been so bad in this franchise (disgusting word) that I am gratified to have a reason to smile. And the Pike character genuinely makes me laugh.
Also not a main character, so I wouldn't expect to see her either? I mean, I hope she survives.... So still emotionally invested. But I mean, obviously they were going to survive the cliffhanger... Lol just like obviously Picard wasn't going to stay assimilated (too much is made of those contract negotiations nowadays, I don't remember it coming up at the time)
FFS! Vulcans being logical and suppressing emotion isn't biological or genetic, it's learned by them through teachings, meditation and practice and takes a lot of hard work.
Perfect example of "show me, don't tell me." From Spock's glare, to his coming back holding the bags, to his clipped, mildly frustrated replies, you know exactly what happened on the mission, how spock is "feeling", and what it means going forward that they are stuck that way ... indefinitely.
@@AnnoyingCritic-is7rpAgree. It would have been just logical for them to make the correction once. For them to do it multiple times descends into cheesy skit for laughs.
Love it! However, Lots of question here can be answered with the following statement: If you haven't noticed yet "Strange new Worlds" is loose with canon.
I get that this show is more lighthearted but their personalities wouldn't drastically change like that. If I remember correctly Vulcans aren't logical by default. It is a way of life they adopted because their natural unchecked state was tearing their world apart.
They did go thru a few seconds of having heightened emotions. Its only logical that they pulled themselves together and quickly adopted the current Vulcan way of life.
THIS. It takes years of training and daily meditation to overcome their highly emotional and aggressive nature. The joke is funny, but it makes zero sense. Also the fact that the serum magically alters their hairstyles.
My presumption is that they haven't scored the episode yet and that music was put in as a placeholder. That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to them using something as on the nose as that if they played their cards right. 😊
That last look on Spock's face says, "Well, SH!T!" That said, there are a couple of things that defy "logic" in this clip and which prove that the current writers *_DO NOT_* understand long established Star Trek canon. It's an established *_FACT_* that Vulcans do have emotions... STRONG emotions which they train for *_YEARS_* to control. Suddenly, an injection allows non-Vulcans to acquire this control almost *_IMMEDIATELY????_* Not only that, but the injection not only changes their physical appearance, is also *_RE-STYLES_* their hair. You know, I can suspend disbelief only so much. This goes beyond absurd. I miss the days when the science of Star Trek was partially based on *_ACTUAL_* science or presented Science Fiction in a plausible manner. Current Star Trek producers and writers seem to have forgotten that or they are just too young to have been alive when The Original Series aired.
They've played fast and loose with science in all Star Trek series - beings with unexplained 'powers', weird viruses that cause the crew to do X, absurd alien redesigns. This isn't much different to be honest.
Perhaps, the emotions part will be explored given that they have not changed back and no longer have the mission to distract...I mean ground them is complete.
Doesn't it take a lifetime of discipline and training for a Vulcan to be the controlled, logical people they are? Wouldn't turning a human physically into a Vulcan would result in something more like a Romulan?
Sadly, I can beat that. AppleTV took Isaac Asimov's Foundation and gave us a room full of scientists saying a sundial was a better timepiece than a water clock, in case you wanted to settle on a planet with no water. However dumb you think Star Trek is currently (and I think it's unbearable and there's no saving it): it can still get worse.
-But have no problem with a serum that turns humans into another species? -That makes them somehow become logical without years of disciplined Vulcan upbringing? -That somehow makes them smarter and more efficient? -Makes them seemingly forget what being human was like? 💁 🤦
Television syndication required large numbers of episodes to sell to various broadcasters. This is streaming and has no quantities or slot requirements.
to be fair, the quality of STNG over 24 episoes is nowehere near SNW - in fact, I doubt I could pick ten epsiodes each season of STNG that would be better than each season of SNW, although again, to be fair, I'm not the hugest STNG fan.
Star Trek has a parody Star Trek skit now in an actual episode. THIS makes me rethink to even start the next season even though I kinda liked SNW so far. This makes no sense in-universe. It hurts my brain to see this.
It does hurt, because you overthink it. Its probably just a comedy episode for Halloween or something like that. The way they show the stuff in this clip, is a tell, they want to be sure, that we should not take it too seriously.
@@hanshaperle6075 Star Trek used to be considered the thinking person's television science fiction. Being told you "overthink" Star Trek is a sure sign you're smarter than the person making the comment.
@@brakespear you aren't taking it seriously enough. Thanks to people doing that, the show is sliding into a bad place. The announcement of a live action comedy Star Trek series, not to mention Lower Decks, is evidence of that. It is the fault of you, and everyone not taking it seriously. It would help if you stopped doing that.
@@troffle for me, though, it's in a better place than it had been for a long time. If you don't like SNW, you can always choose not to watch it (I'm much the same with TNG), although for me SNW comes closer to the spirit of TOS than any Trek series since the animated shows in the early 70s.
i'm hearing 2025...I want to know what's going to happen to the crew and civies that got beamed up by the Gorn (most likely Pike's friend dies, as she was bit)
@@loupasternak I'm looking around me and I don't see DNA. I'm pretty sure it's microscopic. Being less cheeky, logic is a discipline, which is always trained and never genetic.
@@hanshaperle6075 Yes, and I enjoyed the goofy episodes last season, even the musical one, but they still had a degree of verisimilitude. Hopefully in this episode, it will explain why the serum imbues them with Vulcan logic and emotional control... but I bet it doesn't. 😜
Entertaining...but the writers forget that the lack of emotion by the Vulcans is a conscious effort on their part. It is based on them following the philosophy of Surak; it is not ingrained into them on a genetic level.
A magic potion to make everyone Vulcan in 30 seconds. All of a sudden not only do their bodies change, their behavior, and emotions change. Is Star Trek a joke to you?
You must not have watched a lot of classic Trek, methinks. Even some of the franchise's finest stories had some absolutely doofy plot beats here and there (looking at you, First Contact on-demand time travel).
I feel a bit uneasy with them implying that Vulcans are inherently and genetically logical with no prior training of mental disciplines? The whole Vulcan struggle is to try and suppress their intense emotions and follow a path of logic, only for these newly-turned Vulcans to learn it in 30 seconds? It seems to spit in the face of prior canon.
I find the whole we are now as logical as Vulcans as bit weird. Haven't there been multiple episodes, across multiple shows that show the Vulcan logic/control is something learned and not innate
Maybe the genetic code contains an accelerator that jumpstarts the Vulcanization procedure by millenia. It should prove to have detrimental effects on certain subjects for the future(e.g. 25% fatality possibility) which is why we don't really see it in the future. This would also explain how they change physically so fast, including the nose, hair and ofcourse the mental discipline acquirement(which is also a problem as it might make brain cells deteriorate rapidly if not treated in time).
Ethan Peck doing an amazing job of showing Spock's internal screaming 😂
He is a good actor indeed.
It gets fairly external, too.
I have to admit that, despite my original misgivings, he is growing on me.
So I'm not the only one that felt the floor drop out from under Spock!
That dead stare he did explained it all. 😆
If there were ever a need for a live action Johnny Bravo movie, they have their actor. Pike's wall of hair is epic.
Middle aged Johnny Bravo. LOL
@@SilverFox-qr1ci dude for real it looks so incredibly manufactured
Unfortunately Jonny Bravo is 17.
Maybe adult Johnny. lol
It's honestly getting ridonkulous. It's like he's compensating for his fear of the beep chair through his hair.
@@SilverFox-qr1ci Appropriate username is appropriate.
This is getting out of hand! Now there are four and half of them!
Best comment of the day
Oh don't you start on Spock now!
Do not cross the franchises... er... streams!
Bones is lucky he's not on the Enterprise yet, lol. 🤪
complete with hair style change
When pike says “four and one half Vulcans to beam down!” and you see Spock’s face I lost it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
A) Pelia has become my favorite member of the crew!
B) Scotty running the transporter room as a Jr Engineer is actually nice to see. Seeing its around 2259, its plausible.
"I was constantly reminded I was the least Vulcan member present. It was like 4th grade all over again."
well he is in a show being written by 4th graders....
@@Patricia599 you couldn't write better so shut it patricia
@@Patricia599it's the best written Trek since DS9. Your opinion is wrong.
@@MarshallTheArtist thank you!
@@MarshallTheArtist this is the best Trek since DS9? bahahahahahahahahaha no. The best Trek lately was the Expanse followed by the Orville. This trash is just a a bad sitcom minus the laugh track. Its a complete embarrassment for all involved.
I just love how a serum cannot only change them into Vulcans but can change their hairstyles 😂
Each hypospray included a sample size of moose and gel.
That, at least, could happen if Vulcan hair naturally grows differently than human hair (which, after all, has different natural ways of growing in different ethnic groups already). It's the automatically logical behavior that's the problem.
@@TheNoybusiness why?
You base this on how unenlightened Vulcans hostorically delt poorly with their primal emotions, Requiring mental discipline.
These are humans who've been accustomed to emotions all their lives.
Why wouldn't self control be natural for the human mind? Why believe just because Vulcans couldn't handle their emotions human minds would also be unable to?
If you haven't noticed yet "Strange new Worlds" is loose with canon.
@SebastianKnapp-wy5tu it's winning me over with how playful it is. It's truly fiction, and less science.
Although I prefer the drama of the Kirk and TNG era, it's OK to just be entertained by silly stuff.
"Four and one half Vulcans to beam down. Energize!" 😂
I feel logical beings would behave less like jerks.
@@IamMeHere2SeeI guess you forgot how awful Vulcans were to humans in Star Trek Enterprise
@@lostfool Yes, but those Vulcans lacked perspective. It is illogical to say more than necessary, so "four and a half Vulcans" is demonstrably worse than simply saying "five."
That's what keeping a veritable inferno of raging emotions bottled up all the time does,@@IamMeHere2See. Especially if at has a very human desire to -troll- tease a friend at the heart of the inferno.
That’s so wrong!😹
The only thing I have a problem with this is, without the decades of training,
shouldn't they be acting more...romulan than vulcan?
I thought they did act fairly Romulan-- certainly obnoxious. Superior, arrogant.
Yes, exactly.
Romulans seem less emotional than Vulcans. If we look at the episode where Tuvok uses emotions, he was way more aggro than romulans.
It seems illogical to me that changing their DNA (or whatever is changed to make them Vulcan) would make them behave differently or speak differently. Made from scratch Vulcans are raised in the culture and norms of their world. Vulcans decided to control their emotions because they are intense, but don’t they have training from childhood to deal with that?
Obviously, the writers do not know Star Trek.
2:48 The actor who plays Spock was real gutsy to not burst out laughing as you see his face looking at the captain, 😅🤣😂🖖
Id like to see the out takes and how many they needed to achieve that LOL
"I had the same problem with LSD in the 1960s, 1990s, and last July". Totally relatable content. Chef's kiss.
So....Pelia went to Woodstock!
@@EdiaStanfordBruce She also guest-starred on Monk, using the pseudonym "Carol Kane", as I recently found out.
@@cannot-handle-handles She's always been an alien is my new headcanon.
And I thought I was the only one!
Keep things in the past!
Anson Mount’s hair deserves a program of its own, or at least a cast listing.
His hair stylist definitely deserves special billing in the credits.
I know. Thought Vulcans were supposed to all have bowl cuts. Looks like a Vulcan dressed for a D&D session.
I was looking for this comment!
“Pike’s Peak”- himself
Pikes House of Hair
Ooh, now that’s clever. Pellea had the same problem “during the 1960s and the 1990s”. AKA the historical periods of TOS and TNG, like the actress tried out for the series but didn’t get the part.
Well that plus the 60s was Woodstock and 90s was... less-than-stellar Woodstock.
What about last July? Hehe.
@@benwasserman8223 And last July was Interstellar Woodstock
She's Strange New World's answer to Neelix. That's not a compliment.
@@dshaw8356 Must be hard being you
They turned Captain Pike into an Everquest High elf :)
As an old school Everquest vet I appreciate this reference.
@@ZiddersRooFurry Here Here!! Hit me up for a free SOW next time you're in Freeport. :-D
"Admit it, you've had nightmares that start like this." sums up all of that.
I love how vulcans can throw shade like the cattiest high school girl
T'Pol was straight up savage.
@@MatthewStephensAU her spats with Hoshi and Trip were amazing
Perhaps that's why I relate so much.
Tuvok was the best at insults
Vulcans Throwing Shade could end up being a new intergalactic Olympic event., or the name of the new metal band on board the Enterprise
The look on Spock's face at the end; "This is highschool all over again."
they need to add a laugh track now that Star Trek has become a sitcom.
❤
The premise and script are at a high-school level, too.
@@Bern1808no
@@tobsonasanya4765yes
*PIKE'S HAIR AS A VULCAN IS EPIC!*
I'm now actually convinced since season one that Pike's hairdo is a constant running gag on the show.
This series looks all about hair growth🤭 look at doctors microphone or uhura,even dr chapel has more hair🤣 the budget expanded for hairdressers I think🤧
@@polyphrenia8206 ...waiting for a limited commercial presentation sponsored by a hair restoration company.
I think his hairstyle was beautiful. It was nothing weird about it.
Pike’s hairdo should get top billing in the credits.
Apparently it was Mounts idea to 😂
"4½ Volcan to beam down"
They had to rup it in his face😂😂
Indeed. 😅
@@iq_pi7211 "rup"
I didn't expect the genetic and physical change would automatically come with the stringent behavioral modification predisposed to logic and an emotionless affect
If you haven't noticed yet "Strange new Worlds" is loose with canon.
Just have fun with it
They have much better drugs than LSD.
Don't expect paramount to think anything through. Thats why they have spinning flipping mushroom drive ships in Discovery and why everyone in the federation transforms into either an idiot or a bigot in SNW to make their trash writing believable
Vulcans supposedly have extremely powerful emotional extremes. They began to suppress them after a massive war. The human crew would be... violently angry after this.
I died laughing each time the crew kept pointing out Spock’s “deficiency.” 🤣
Saaame. Felt so bad for him. And they left him holding the luggage 😭😭
Good to see you have that whole "empathy" thing.
Star Trek: Strange New Haircuts has evolved into Star Trek: Stranger New Haircuts
Yes, Pike with the ears and hair reminds me of a troll doll.
😂 Agree. They look more like Picard Romulans than TOS era Vulcans.
THIS IS THE ONE!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
DID THE SERUM LITERALLY BRAID UHURA'S HAIR?!
And Nurse Chapel's got shorter! 😂😂😂
Yeah, the nonsense is strong.
Looks like good ratings have made them lazy about keeping things logically coherent.
@@Leto2ndAtreidesI just saw section 31 trailer... So I will take this one and nevermind the hair or some other inconsistencies
@@Leto2ndAtreides You are aware that Star Trek always have been nonsensical, aren't you?
Its only logical
That look on Spock's face at the end of the video clip... PRICELESS
0:42 reminds me of getting the Covid Booster Shot. Really Love this Series. All the Cast are AAAA-awesome!
Such a shame Bones isn't on the ship already he would have flipped his lid so bad you would have been able to hear his scream all the way on Vulcan.
God bless him Leonard McCoy would have had a field day with all the potential jokes this situation set up
@@Arnold-l1k I would be 0% upset if Karl Urban showed up as McCoy again.
@@jceggbert5 Would absolutely be ok with him as McCoy in two different timelines
@@alexholden2512 it's like how JK Simmons is always J. Jonah Jameson!
@@Arnold-l1k McCoy would've tested the injections both ways before giving it to four of the most senior officers of the ship.
Wait...did they commit the teachings of Surak to memory before the injection, thus having the knowledge to instantly purge emotions? otherwise they would go nuts like Sarek with Bandai Syndrome.
Yeah, they just did it off-camera. It was in the script that way...
Yeah I was thinking something similar. Don't Vulcans have to train really hard not to go mad from their own over emotional nature?
Wouldn't this procedure being exceptionally dangerous and ill advised therefore?
The very premise is garbage.
Holt shitballs, gimme gimme gimme. Trek is back on track baby!
@@twrecks6279 i guess technically no? cause wouldn't they just function like non-angry romulans then, even if the dna of the serum was vulcan? then again, the human body or mind is probably more well equipped for the transition, as humans live with emotions their whole lives.
Also: are hairstyles in their genetics or how do you explain Pikes hair?
They'll remain Vulcan indefinitely... until the end of the episode
😂 nailed it
As an episodic series should do!
Apparently, they’re really leaning into turning Pike’s hair into a running joke throughout the series, which makes things interesting.
Also… the lirpa twirling makes Pike look like a total badass, which is also good. Sorry we have to wait until next year to find out what this whole situation is all about, though.
It's only a clip here, so there is little context to the details of the mission (an energy system repair?). I wonder why Pike is carrying a lirpa (ancient Vulcan ceremonial weapon). We see La'an carrying a phaser rifle, so the potential for some threat must exist. I look forward to seeing if there is a plausible reason Pike is carrying the equivalent of a "spear" instead of more advanced 23rd-century technology, or if the writers just think it looks "cool" and "Vulcany." Given the lack of seriousness of what has been offered so far, I'll wager it's the latter.
I take your point but I think the point of this series is to mix whimsy with lore. To me, it’s a success even though it ploughs old ground. Honestly, things have been so bad in this franchise (disgusting word) that I am gratified to have a reason to smile. And the Pike character genuinely makes me laugh.
Pike looks like Vulcan Beavis.
Hehe he uh mmm huh mmm yeah
@@kunserndsittizen2655 I am C'ornholio, the needs of my bunghole outweigh the needs of the few.
You mean B’Vis.
@@kjamison5951 ...a logical progression.
@@kjamison5951 I died. XD
"Never get in the middle of a Vulcan relationship. They will hit you with a lirpa!"
The lirpa hitter in question:
Thanks for the reminder of how much I've been missing this show.
Looks like Kid and Play is back in the house. Being turned into a Vulcan doesn't mean that they are smarter and emotionless. Those are learned traits.
THIS IS JUST PERFECT! CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS COMEBACK!
I guess they survived the Gorn attack in the Season 2 cliff hanger
I mean, I guess we knew that when they green lit a new season.
The one who was infected isn't in the trailer...forgot her name.... pike's girlfriend
@@deniskariega Capt. Marie Batel from the USS Cayuga.
@@shauncraigparkinson8165 I guess we knew it because this is a prequel to TOS, and they're all still alive there
Also not a main character, so I wouldn't expect to see her either? I mean, I hope she survives.... So still emotionally invested.
But I mean, obviously they were going to survive the cliffhanger... Lol just like obviously Picard wasn't going to stay assimilated (too much is made of those contract negotiations nowadays, I don't remember it coming up at the time)
4 1/2 Vulcans to beam down 🤣😂 (my bad miscounted the 1st time)
Glad the command wasn't taken literally
That was so unnecessary even for a vulcan. 😂😂
SPOCK: "Captain, you are in need of a sensitivity training refresher." LOL j/k
For three minutes I was wondering and then Scotty appeared. Season 3 already delivering.
I see you've a high bar.
My God. Need someone with a Scottish accent to be Scotty because
@@AnnoyingCritic-is7rpMartin Quinn who plays Scotty is actually Scottish
@@AnnoyingCritic-is7rpthe man is Scottish. What more of a Scottish accent do you want?
@@dshaw8356 Nobody watching this show has a high bar.
FFS! Vulcans being logical and suppressing emotion isn't biological or genetic, it's learned by them through teachings, meditation and practice and takes a lot of hard work.
They CANNOT go from overwhelmed by their emotions, & feelings to fully in control, without the Vulcan & Romulan academies years of training...
Did his hair become more of a mountain? God bless him!
More like Devil's Tower.
Pike's Peak. Climb it at your peril.
Anson Mountain
Perfect example of "show me, don't tell me." From Spock's glare, to his coming back holding the bags, to his clipped, mildly frustrated replies, you know exactly what happened on the mission, how spock is "feeling", and what it means going forward that they are stuck that way ... indefinitely.
Sure don't tell should be showing us something that it's worth seeing that is it should be an idea what character development not an SNL skit
@@AnnoyingCritic-is7rpAgree. It would have been just logical for them to make the correction once. For them to do it multiple times descends into cheesy skit for laughs.
Awesome promo. Pike’s Vulcan hair is gonna become a fan favorite.😂 👏
As it wasn't already?
Love it! However, Lots of question here can be answered with the following statement:
If you haven't noticed yet "Strange new Worlds" is loose with canon.
Lot of that going around these days.
When they told Spock he was only half Vulcan - you know he wanted to say "Up Yours." (From his human half, of course.)
Logically, that would've made the most sense. Emotionally, it would've been two different words.
I get that this show is more lighthearted but their personalities wouldn't drastically change like that. If I remember correctly Vulcans aren't logical by default. It is a way of life they adopted because their natural unchecked state was tearing their world apart.
Yeah I thought about that. Still, it was funny lol
Oh shut up. Fans like you are insufferable. Annoying little whiners
They did go thru a few seconds of having heightened emotions. Its only logical that they pulled themselves together and quickly adopted the current Vulcan way of life.
THIS. It takes years of training and daily meditation to overcome their highly emotional and aggressive nature. The joke is funny, but it makes zero sense. Also the fact that the serum magically alters their hairstyles.
You must be fun at parties
When this show comes back, so does my Paramount+ subscription
Talk about new heights on "Pike's Peak."
Nature vs Nurture. Vulcans have to learn to control their emotions logic isn’t genetic.
Spock's face at the end of the scene was priceless.
Indeed. 😅
My favorite moment was when they walked down the hall to dramatic classical music
I liked seeing the Vulcan weapon that they used in "Amok Time."
My presumption is that they haven't scored the episode yet and that music was put in as a placeholder. That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to them using something as on the nose as that if they played their cards right. 😊
@@reclasendeavors3172 i clapped, i know what that is!
@@ZeroB4NG - And it is?
@@jeffcozad4863 a Lirpa.
That last look on Spock's face says, "Well, SH!T!" That said, there are a couple of things that defy "logic" in this clip and which prove that the current writers *_DO NOT_* understand long established Star Trek canon. It's an established *_FACT_* that Vulcans do have emotions... STRONG emotions which they train for *_YEARS_* to control. Suddenly, an injection allows non-Vulcans to acquire this control almost *_IMMEDIATELY????_* Not only that, but the injection not only changes their physical appearance, is also *_RE-STYLES_* their hair. You know, I can suspend disbelief only so much. This goes beyond absurd. I miss the days when the science of Star Trek was partially based on *_ACTUAL_* science or presented Science Fiction in a plausible manner. Current Star Trek producers and writers seem to have forgotten that or they are just too young to have been alive when The Original Series aired.
They've played fast and loose with science in all Star Trek series - beings with unexplained 'powers', weird viruses that cause the crew to do X, absurd alien redesigns. This isn't much different to be honest.
"If I were human, I would say... 'lighten up, Francis.' _If_ I were human."
They had me at “Indeed, it is.” Can’t wait to see the full season!!!
Captain Pike’s transformation reminds me of Johnny Bravo.
It does kinda.
How's the serum changing their hair styles 😂
Harrison Ford voice: It's not that kind of movie, kid.
If you haven't noticed yet "Strange new Worlds" is loose with canon.
You could say Vulcan hair is a different composition to human hair not Keratin
@@SebastianKnapp-wy5tu Well its like they took the canon and shot it out of a cannon.
That subvocalization "Hmm" is so T'Lyn vibe.
But logic is a trained skill, not inherent to vulcans. They should be going nuts with intense emotions.
Perhaps, the emotions part will be explored given that they have not changed back and no longer have the mission to distract...I mean ground them is complete.
In theory would behave like Romulians
They kinda did while on the ground in sick bay
I can't wait to watch this. I wish they do 24 episodes instead of this new 10 episode seasons.
Doesn't it take a lifetime of discipline and training for a Vulcan to be the controlled, logical people they are? Wouldn't turning a human physically into a Vulcan would result in something more like a Romulan?
A simple injection turns humans into Vulcans, with their green, copper-based blood! How does that work?
Sadly, I can beat that. AppleTV took Isaac Asimov's Foundation and gave us a room full of scientists saying a sundial was a better timepiece than a water clock, in case you wanted to settle on a planet with no water.
However dumb you think Star Trek is currently (and I think it's unbearable and there's no saving it): it can still get worse.
The injection redoes hairstyles on all of them. Why, out of all the crazy stuff that happens in Star Trek, am I having trouble reconciling that?
-But have no problem with a serum that turns humans into another species?
-That makes them somehow become logical without years of disciplined Vulcan upbringing?
-That somehow makes them smarter and more efficient?
-Makes them seemingly forget what being human was like?
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Why, indeed? Is it not...irrational? It seems many SNW-haters in the comments share this obsession, though.
So you're worried about their hairstyle changing, and not their entire body structure and species?
@@mastere6115 Exactly. What's wrong with me? 😋
What can you say this is an awesome show with awesome writers and talent
Lol
Pike's hairstyle is ... glorious.
Pike has gone full Wayne Static with his hair and I am 100% here for it.
Spock's worst nightmere lol
You just know Spock wants to phaser all of them!
Spock wound up carrying everyone's gear.
And to think they pushed out 24 episodes of STNG year after year, yet they cant even give us 10.
Actors are lazy nowadays.
Television syndication required large numbers of episodes to sell to various broadcasters.
This is streaming and has no quantities or slot requirements.
to be fair, the quality of STNG over 24 episoes is nowehere near SNW - in fact, I doubt I could pick ten epsiodes each season of STNG that would be better than each season of SNW, although again, to be fair, I'm not the hugest STNG fan.
Pellea... ohhhh poop 😠... that had me laughing more than it should 😂
Really? You thought that was funny? Are you 12?
Spock looks like he couldn't handle all those people being more Vulkan than he is.
"4 1\2 Vulcans to beam down." 😂😂😂😂
Remain Klingon was so 2256~
Remain Vulcan, now that's new and Fresh ! 🖖
Star Trek has a parody Star Trek skit now in an actual episode. THIS makes me rethink to even start the next season even though I kinda liked SNW so far. This makes no sense in-universe. It hurts my brain to see this.
It does hurt, because you overthink it. Its probably just a comedy episode for Halloween or something like that. The way they show the stuff in this clip, is a tell, they want to be sure, that we should not take it too seriously.
@@hanshaperle6075 Star Trek used to be considered the thinking person's television science fiction. Being told you "overthink" Star Trek is a sure sign you're smarter than the person making the comment.
you're taking it too seriously, if that helps at all.
@@brakespear you aren't taking it seriously enough. Thanks to people doing that, the show is sliding into a bad place. The announcement of a live action comedy Star Trek series, not to mention Lower Decks, is evidence of that. It is the fault of you, and everyone not taking it seriously. It would help if you stopped doing that.
@@troffle for me, though, it's in a better place than it had been for a long time. If you don't like SNW, you can always choose not to watch it (I'm much the same with TNG), although for me SNW comes closer to the spirit of TOS than any Trek series since the animated shows in the early 70s.
This was freaking epic.
Christ! How tall is Pike's hair going to get THIS season? lol
Couldn't Spock take the serum to make himself 100% Vulcan?
By SNW logic, he would be 150% Vulcan, then.
Can’t wait for the new season
This season is gonna be the best yet. When's the release date ?
i'm hearing 2025...I want to know what's going to happen to the crew and civies that got beamed up by the Gorn (most likely Pike's friend dies, as she was bit)
I can't wait for SNW to come back. The best Trek in decades!
The final look on Spock's face was priceless, I can't wait to see this movie
I'm a SNW fan, but that looked awful. Vulcans aren't born with logic. How can a serum do that?
everything is DNA bro , look around you
@@loupasternak clean your room
@@loupasternak I'm looking around me and I don't see DNA. I'm pretty sure it's microscopic.
Being less cheeky, logic is a discipline, which is always trained and never genetic.
Relax. I bet it will be just a comedy episode. We had that too, last season, with the cross-over from Lower Decks.
@@hanshaperle6075 Yes, and I enjoyed the goofy episodes last season, even the musical one, but they still had a degree of verisimilitude. Hopefully in this episode, it will explain why the serum imbues them with Vulcan logic and emotional control... but I bet it doesn't. 😜
Entertaining...but the writers forget that the lack of emotion by the Vulcans is a conscious effort on their part. It is based on them following the philosophy of Surak; it is not ingrained into them on a genetic level.
What is the track that starts at 2:19? I feel like I should know it...
I would love an answer to
Absolutely love this crew and show.❤❤❤
WHEN CAN I WATCH THIS?!?!?!?!?
I miss the thought provoking, serious sci-fi that we had with TOS , TNG, Voyager etc. it’s pretty clear we’ll never see that again watching this.
I agree, however I do enjoy SNW. It feels more like TOS than STD ever did, and (imo) is much better than anything else in trek right now.
i just want more TNG VOY DS9 or even ENT, but the possibility of a show like that is getting smaller and smaller...
TOS. Serious? did we watch the same show??
@@fastbike49 I'm not saying it's the same, at all. The 2 are still different. SNW is just WAY more LIKE TOS than std could ever hope to claim.
@@wackyboy4949 100% STD could have been great but turned out abysmal.
OMG is this a scene from a real Star Trek show? Or an SNL skit?? WHAT HAPPENED TO STAR TREK????
It's so horrible.
I'm absolutely baffled by this.
it's awful. It's 2024.
I NEED that serum
Human or Vulcan Capt. Pike's hair still EPIC!!!
LOL " Four and one half Vulcans to beam down!" Spock glances over.😆😆😆
Here's a crazy thought!: Hire a showrunner that actually respects the IP and a team who can actually write science-fiction.
A magic potion to make everyone Vulcan in 30 seconds. All of a sudden not only do their bodies change, their behavior, and emotions change. Is Star Trek a joke to you?
It took multiple seasons for you to reach this conclusion?
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Discovery and Strange New Worlds are certainly jokes. Jokes in bad taste.
At this point, I think the answer is clearly Yes
You must not have watched a lot of classic Trek, methinks. Even some of the franchise's finest stories had some absolutely doofy plot beats here and there (looking at you, First Contact on-demand time travel).
@@LieutenantAlaki I have seen them all. That doesn't mean my standards and the audience standards haven't risen since ToS
Very. Happy
When is it airing?
That Spock is carrying not only his equipment bags, but also nurse Chapel's.
I feel a bit uneasy with them implying that Vulcans are inherently and genetically logical with no prior training of mental disciplines? The whole Vulcan struggle is to try and suppress their intense emotions and follow a path of logic, only for these newly-turned Vulcans to learn it in 30 seconds? It seems to spit in the face of prior canon.
i assume this whole episode is framed as a joke. or there has been mind melding or katra transfer or something....
Everything since 2009 has spat in the face of prior canon. That war has been lost without hope for 15 years.
This is the Star Trek version of Mitichlorians.. Not. Ok.
I find the whole we are now as logical as Vulcans as bit weird. Haven't there been multiple episodes, across multiple shows that show the Vulcan logic/control is something learned and not innate
Maybe the genetic code contains an accelerator that jumpstarts the Vulcanization procedure by millenia. It should prove to have detrimental effects on certain subjects for the future(e.g. 25% fatality possibility) which is why we don't really see it in the future. This would also explain how they change physically so fast, including the nose, hair and ofcourse the mental discipline acquirement(which is also a problem as it might make brain cells deteriorate rapidly if not treated in time).
I can hardly wait
We just witnessed not Vulcan bullying works! Efficient!
This was sooo well done! Poor Spock! I have tears of laughter!
Hmm, add in some "Pon Farr" for some fun.