@@TheRishikesh99 Same here! Only name I did not recognize was the Jugulis' (maybe I stopped reading/watching the series before they were introduced?) But the nostalgia hit was real!
The reason the Frosmoths were taking less damage was because of its hidden ability Ice Scales, which halves the damage taken from special moves i.e. iron jugulis's air slash
So i also ran calcs and assault vest, ice scales frosmoth, with max spD and max Hp only takes 82% from tera fire modest max sp atk Eruption torkoal in the sun
I would just like to say thank you, Cyber. After watching so many videos from you and others, gaining knowledge, proper movesets and the like, I was finally able to reach Master Ball tier this morning. I'm genuinely so proud of myself.
What a fun video showcasing not only a great team for you to pilot, but a taste of what makes Pokemon so special from all these unique and creative opponents. They all put together teams that featured super uncommon Pokemon in ways that did everything possible to maximize the strengths they had. Such a cool episode of Road to Ranked!
It’s true. The meta shifts sooooo fast with all these competitions being streamed especially. You can see the meta instantly changes within days after the tournaments. Which makes it really fun imo. It’s not as stagnant as playing the same teams for one whole ranked battle season. Which can get really boring.
I absolutely love this team. I never manage to read full team reports, but idk.. from the og idea to use trick room/tailwind team with roaring moon and being like "nah, cyborg dragon is better".. i kinda love it
Ground Tera Sylveon was part of my team for Paldea Prologue. Great defensive coverage. It works even better when you have Miraidon dropping Parabolic charge next to it.
@@christopherburgess2170 He is. Just that his ego is out of whack. if he could be a lot humbler like Aaron, I'd feel the urge to punch him in the face less.
@@exgardevior Okay yeah but like...the whole "world champ difference" is so annoying after a while. Yeah, okay Wolf, you did it in Gen 7, good for you. Do you have any *other* parts of your personality?
That game #3 really made me think of a pretty neat combo of terastalizing Coalossal to something like Grass or Water, then Alomamola (or something else) could use Surf, hitting Coalossal and giving it a speed boost thanks to Steam Engine. Not sure how strong it'd be, but at least it'd be cool.
I'm very new to VGC, so I sometimes make gameplans for fun, and game 3 was interesting to me, my immediate thought was to lead Iron Jugulis + Great Tusk because Great Tusk was so threatening to their team, against Alo + Coal I would probably Headlong Rush into Coal + Tailwind (I could be messing up speed tiers), against Iron Moth + Flutter Mane, I would probably do Tera Ground EQ + Tailwind. These were my immediate thoughts (+ bringing Iron Bundle + Iron Hands in the back bc lategame Sash with its coverage seemed nice and Iron Hands was hard for them to break outside of Flutter Mane) Retrospective, the two things that would be kinda annoying would be Grimmsnarl + Flutter Mane lead because the fear of Fake Out would give them a free screen and screens in general seem kinda tough for this team because it exerts so much immediate offensive pressure and having that weakened is very limiting, granted my team comp for this matchup is very aggressive/offensive. Some feedback would be nice, as I'm trying to learn. Great video, Aaron, it was a pleasure to watch!
Used a Jugulis for both a singles double. The singles is an offensive set of dark pulse, hurricane, taunt and Tera ground. Complimented by a speed booster. (Prankster Thunderus was crucial for the rain) The other is a support build much like this one except air slash and protect are replaced with air cutter and taunt. Both got me in the Master Ball rank.
I agree with Aaron Re: encore on iron bundle and just generally love encore on fast pokemon! Online, when they don't know you have it, it basically invalidates protect and set up and wins games on its own. In open team sheet, it tends to provoke a more offensive playstyle. It's also just enormously punitive to more defensive dondozo. Plus, encore functions very well in teams with abilities like flash fire, storm drain, lightning rod, shadow tag, etc. There's just so much good tech available with it.
I know people don’t like iron jugulis because of its mid typing and the fact that it looks really similar to its ancestor, but honestly I love it. Might just be because I have a soft spot for some less liked pokemon but it has grown on me a lot
Bit late to the video but I have been trying Iron Jug for Reg C. It can set up tailwind, electric terrain and sunny day! It's been really good to hybrid-ise both boosts for the paradox pokemon. I really recommend it, especially with electric seed. Becomes a bulky boy!
I was looking at that endgame with Belly Drum Iron Hands, where you were wondering whether the Air Slash would KO or not. I was thinking the best play would have been Tailwind + Psychic, since given the previous damage rolls were showing another Psychic would be enough to knock it out :) And Tailwind would have given Goth the jump on Sylveon. Wanted to share that cause I was pretty happy getting that idea when I was watching it
Not so, actually. Doesn't have to worry about Fairy's as much, faster and more focused. Instead of Drei with that useless 95 physical attack that just takes up space. Leave it to the "future" to streamline an already good mon!
I'm curious - I didn't really play much vgc before this gen. How much team variety is there in this gen vs. previous ones? Based on the gen 8 videos I've seen, it seems like there are a lot more competitively viable pokemon in this format than last gen. Definitely enough to make it hard to keep track of them all, at least.
the general rule is that the lower the "overall power" is , the more variety there is in the meta. an example would be vgc2019 where primal groudon + xerneas / primal kyogre+rayquaza in every team
Mathematically, this format has 21 Pokemon at 10%+ usage (meta staples), 42 Pokemon at 2%+ usage (common Pokemon), and 55 Pokemon at 1%+ usage (relevant Pokemon). Of course this game is still relatively young so some more Pokemon are moving (like right now Lilligant is barely sub-1% but it will certainly be moving above that as time passes). We don't have data for series 1-4 from Sword and Shield so we can't look at the pre-DLC format for a direct comparison (we do have series 5 for the main IoA format I guess), but series 9 (the main Crown Tundra meta) is not a horrible comparison and is the most significant Sword and Shield format IMO. This has 20 Pokemon at 10%+ usage, 53 Pokemon at 2%+ usage, and 69 Pokemon at 1%+ usage. Of course, this isn't fully fair as a lot more total Pokemon were available in that format versus this one, but that makes only a small difference (series 5 from gen 8 is only very slightly less diverse than series 9). Either way, I think the math suggests the gen 9 meta is similarly diverse at the top but tapers off somewhat more heavily than what was typically seen in gen 8, probably because we effectively have a format with a lot of legendaries (the Paradox Pokemon) so the standard of power isn't really lower than the DLC gen 8 formats but far fewer total legendaries available than we saw in gen 8 and also a lot of the best non-legendary Pokemon are just not available (Pokemon like Whimsicott, Porygon2, and Incineroar) so perhaps the DLC (and the legalization of things like the treasures of ruin and Walking Wake) will change this by keeping the power level about the same (only a little higher) but just giving more choices at that high power level. I also think Dondozo is also a bit of a specific heavy disincentive for not using a team too low in fundamental power, but that's a bit murky and not a data driven viewpoint so much as my subjective guess about a cause of what the numbers show. If you're comparing to the one in-person tournament format of gen 8, that was a restricted format which is a type of format that always has drastically less Pokemon viability than other formats as the handful of the best restricted Pokemon warp the entire metagame around themselves. It's just unfortunate that gen 8 never got a chance to have its better formats on the big stage as honestly pre-restricted gen 8 is the most diverse Pokemon has ever been. But yeah, if you specifically compare a format that allows ridiculous Pokemon like Zacian to this one that doesn't, this is notably more diverse by comparison. I don't think gen 9, when it has Koraidon and Miraidon who are both also ridiculous themselves, will fare better, but I guess that remains to be seen.
@@AmazingAmpharos Thanks for that analysis! Dondozo, is definitely one of those Pokemon that you do really need to have some kind of definitive answer for or it can roll your entire team, but it's not so powerful that it's totally centralizing. I'm dreading the next restricted format, but up until that point I'm really looking forward to the continued SV regulations. There are tons of interesting team options, and between the new Pokemon and the different availability from SwSh, everything just feels super fresh.
tbh i cant really think of that much of a counter for lilligant torkoal apart from prankster taunt but that gets blocked by terra dark or white herb, another thing i thought of was fakeout but that gets blocked by covert cloak
Idk but i feel like this gen ppl are being more creative, seeing that from playing myself on both showdown and ranked itself i have faced a lot of different mons
Hi! I’m a huge fan of Pokémon vgc but have a lot of trouble trying to teambuild but none of the guides I’ve found have been helpful, could u pls make one! It would be very useful
shoutouts to the detective conan nicknames
Came to comments to say this, i stopped following the series but man does this feel nostalgic.
@@TheRishikesh99 Same here! Only name I did not recognize was the Jugulis' (maybe I stopped reading/watching the series before they were introduced?) But the nostalgia hit was real!
@@KimParkkinen it’s how those people( gin, vodka etc) call the boss
The reason the Frosmoths were taking less damage was because of its hidden ability Ice Scales, which halves the damage taken from special moves i.e. iron jugulis's air slash
So i also ran calcs and assault vest, ice scales frosmoth, with max spD and max Hp only takes 82% from tera fire modest max sp atk Eruption torkoal in the sun
@@jacobgannon9674 damn that's a tanky lil moth boi
I would just like to say thank you, Cyber. After watching so many videos from you and others, gaining knowledge, proper movesets and the like, I was finally able to reach Master Ball tier this morning. I'm genuinely so proud of myself.
Congratulations! Thanks so much for watching the content!
What a fun video showcasing not only a great team for you to pilot, but a taste of what makes Pokemon so special from all these unique and creative opponents. They all put together teams that featured super uncommon Pokemon in ways that did everything possible to maximize the strengths they had. Such a cool episode of Road to Ranked!
It’s true. The meta shifts sooooo fast with all these competitions being streamed especially. You can see the meta instantly changes within days after the tournaments. Which makes it really fun imo. It’s not as stagnant as playing the same teams for one whole ranked battle season. Which can get really boring.
Thanks for all of your videos, they help me decide lots of Pokémon to use myself. Keep up the good work Aaron!
Frosmoth's ice scales cuts damage from special attacks by 50%. Getting it to half HP with a crit makes you really lucky because that tank be tanking.
Markus is my GOAT cause he named all his mons after Detective conan characters :)
Love to see others who recognize the power of BelliGOAT.
I absolutely love this team. I never manage to read full team reports, but idk.. from the og idea to use trick room/tailwind team with roaring moon and being like "nah, cyborg dragon is better".. i kinda love it
Ground Tera Sylveon was part of my team for Paldea Prologue. Great defensive coverage. It works even better when you have Miraidon dropping Parabolic charge next to it.
I wish we could see enemy teams like in SwSh 😢
Infestation is one of my fav moves ! That first game was cool :)
When Wolfey is not winning himself… he is building winning teams… world champ difference
literally anyone could have made this team. Bare bones, basic team comp with one uncommon mon in Jugulis. Wolf isn't special.
@Screwd_Cube wolf time and again proves he is incredible at this game. It's undeniable.
@@christopherburgess2170 He is. Just that his ego is out of whack. if he could be a lot humbler like Aaron, I'd feel the urge to punch him in the face less.
@@SC_3 If being a World Champion doesn’t qualify as special, I dunno what does.
@@exgardevior Okay yeah but like...the whole "world champ difference" is so annoying after a while. Yeah, okay Wolf, you did it in Gen 7, good for you. Do you have any *other* parts of your personality?
That game #3 really made me think of a pretty neat combo of terastalizing Coalossal to something like Grass or Water, then Alomamola (or something else) could use Surf, hitting Coalossal and giving it a speed boost thanks to Steam Engine. Not sure how strong it'd be, but at least it'd be cool.
you could use specs or an absorb bulb
Just reminds me Sword and Shield honestly...
I've seen this, as you've described it, and a variant of Tera Grass with U-turn, which I wasn't expecting after playing SwSh haha
I remember you battling with Alomomola in XY! cheers you've been an amazing resource and company all these years
Loving the videos even more with the recent uploads.
Looking forward to your future videos and new team soon!
The iron jugulis set on this team is so smart
First time I’ve seen that infestation move I really like that! Great video to watch on my lunch again thank you!!
Just finished a random road to ranked video on your channel to find you just uploaded! the Binge continues
I'm very new to VGC, so I sometimes make gameplans for fun, and game 3 was interesting to me, my immediate thought was to lead Iron Jugulis + Great Tusk because Great Tusk was so threatening to their team, against Alo + Coal I would probably Headlong Rush into Coal + Tailwind (I could be messing up speed tiers), against Iron Moth + Flutter Mane, I would probably do Tera Ground EQ + Tailwind.
These were my immediate thoughts (+ bringing Iron Bundle + Iron Hands in the back bc lategame Sash with its coverage seemed nice and Iron Hands was hard for them to break outside of Flutter Mane)
Retrospective, the two things that would be kinda annoying would be Grimmsnarl + Flutter Mane lead because the fear of Fake Out would give them a free screen and screens in general seem kinda tough for this team because it exerts so much immediate offensive pressure and having that weakened is very limiting, granted my team comp for this matchup is very aggressive/offensive.
Some feedback would be nice, as I'm trying to learn.
Great video, Aaron, it was a pleasure to watch!
Used a Jugulis for both a singles double. The singles is an offensive set of dark pulse, hurricane, taunt and Tera ground. Complimented by a speed booster.
(Prankster Thunderus was crucial for the rain)
The other is a support build much like this one except air slash and protect are replaced with air cutter and taunt.
Both got me in the Master Ball rank.
I agree with Aaron Re: encore on iron bundle and just generally love encore on fast pokemon! Online, when they don't know you have it, it basically invalidates protect and set up and wins games on its own. In open team sheet, it tends to provoke a more offensive playstyle. It's also just enormously punitive to more defensive dondozo. Plus, encore functions very well in teams with abilities like flash fire, storm drain, lightning rod, shadow tag, etc. There's just so much good tech available with it.
I know people don’t like iron jugulis because of its mid typing and the fact that it looks really similar to its ancestor, but honestly I love it. Might just be because I have a soft spot for some less liked pokemon but it has grown on me a lot
Bit late to the video but I have been trying Iron Jug for Reg C. It can set up tailwind, electric terrain and sunny day! It's been really good to hybrid-ise both boosts for the paradox pokemon.
I really recommend it, especially with electric seed. Becomes a bulky boy!
Thank you, I always learn a lot with your videos
Maybe you could start using some strange mons none uses instead of the same 40 boring mons in different combinations...
i specially like this kind of uncommon teams. think they have a lot of potential in metagame scenarios
the vgc GOAT back at it again 🙌🙌
I was looking at that endgame with Belly Drum Iron Hands, where you were wondering whether the Air Slash would KO or not. I was thinking the best play would have been Tailwind + Psychic, since given the previous damage rolls were showing another Psychic would be enough to knock it out :) And Tailwind would have given Goth the jump on Sylveon. Wanted to share that cause I was pretty happy getting that idea when I was watching it
Jugulis is such a slept on mon imo simply because it’s seemingly outclassed by Hydreigon
Not so, actually. Doesn't have to worry about Fairy's as much, faster and more focused. Instead of Drei with that useless 95 physical attack that just takes up space. Leave it to the "future" to streamline an already good mon!
@@SC_3 that was exactly my thoughts. But I see a fair amount of people saying it’s bad🤷🏼♀️
I'm curious - I didn't really play much vgc before this gen. How much team variety is there in this gen vs. previous ones? Based on the gen 8 videos I've seen, it seems like there are a lot more competitively viable pokemon in this format than last gen. Definitely enough to make it hard to keep track of them all, at least.
Your latter assessment is correct
the general rule is that the lower the "overall power" is , the more variety there is in the meta. an example would be vgc2019 where primal groudon + xerneas / primal kyogre+rayquaza in every team
Mathematically, this format has 21 Pokemon at 10%+ usage (meta staples), 42 Pokemon at 2%+ usage (common Pokemon), and 55 Pokemon at 1%+ usage (relevant Pokemon). Of course this game is still relatively young so some more Pokemon are moving (like right now Lilligant is barely sub-1% but it will certainly be moving above that as time passes). We don't have data for series 1-4 from Sword and Shield so we can't look at the pre-DLC format for a direct comparison (we do have series 5 for the main IoA format I guess), but series 9 (the main Crown Tundra meta) is not a horrible comparison and is the most significant Sword and Shield format IMO. This has 20 Pokemon at 10%+ usage, 53 Pokemon at 2%+ usage, and 69 Pokemon at 1%+ usage. Of course, this isn't fully fair as a lot more total Pokemon were available in that format versus this one, but that makes only a small difference (series 5 from gen 8 is only very slightly less diverse than series 9). Either way, I think the math suggests the gen 9 meta is similarly diverse at the top but tapers off somewhat more heavily than what was typically seen in gen 8, probably because we effectively have a format with a lot of legendaries (the Paradox Pokemon) so the standard of power isn't really lower than the DLC gen 8 formats but far fewer total legendaries available than we saw in gen 8 and also a lot of the best non-legendary Pokemon are just not available (Pokemon like Whimsicott, Porygon2, and Incineroar) so perhaps the DLC (and the legalization of things like the treasures of ruin and Walking Wake) will change this by keeping the power level about the same (only a little higher) but just giving more choices at that high power level. I also think Dondozo is also a bit of a specific heavy disincentive for not using a team too low in fundamental power, but that's a bit murky and not a data driven viewpoint so much as my subjective guess about a cause of what the numbers show.
If you're comparing to the one in-person tournament format of gen 8, that was a restricted format which is a type of format that always has drastically less Pokemon viability than other formats as the handful of the best restricted Pokemon warp the entire metagame around themselves. It's just unfortunate that gen 8 never got a chance to have its better formats on the big stage as honestly pre-restricted gen 8 is the most diverse Pokemon has ever been. But yeah, if you specifically compare a format that allows ridiculous Pokemon like Zacian to this one that doesn't, this is notably more diverse by comparison. I don't think gen 9, when it has Koraidon and Miraidon who are both also ridiculous themselves, will fare better, but I guess that remains to be seen.
@@AmazingAmpharos Thanks for that analysis! Dondozo, is definitely one of those Pokemon that you do really need to have some kind of definitive answer for or it can roll your entire team, but it's not so powerful that it's totally centralizing. I'm dreading the next restricted format, but up until that point I'm really looking forward to the continued SV regulations. There are tons of interesting team options, and between the new Pokemon and the different availability from SwSh, everything just feels super fresh.
I have faced Bruxish so much the last few days. Its manageable, but a quarter of my battles had it
I love your videos and the information you provide us. I learned a lot here, you're my hero Aaron. ❤ Sincerely from Mexico City
I had no idea that pink fish in game 3 was a Pokémon 😂
Alomamola. The weird heart shaped fish that ISN’T an evo for Luvdisc lol.
Detective Conan Themed team, all names are from amazing and incredible job!
Dope team, dope vid
love your video ❤
I love iron jungle gym
tbh i cant really think of that much of a counter for lilligant torkoal apart from prankster taunt but that gets blocked by terra dark or white herb, another thing i thought of was fakeout but that gets blocked by covert cloak
Skeledirge is one of my favorite designs from this gen
LETS GOOO!!
Those off choices really make me miss the reveal team option from Sword/Shield
Whoa, late night Road to Ranked!!!
First time hearing the sound for infestation in game and that is unsettling
this ORANGE JULIUS team WON a HUGE tournmanet
You know the team's good when it wins a regional and top 8's another regional across the world!
Alomomola Is a famous physical tank
Flying tera hands. But it's hands are already floating.
Alomomola, Bruxish... the fishies are revolting, watch your backs, y'all
Detective Conan names 💯 really takes me back.
Hey arron cybertron zheng, merch when, I must have a silly way of representing you
I was 100% expecting infestation to do residual damage. What a let down lol
🔥
I'm just cheering for Alex Soto, who made it to second place without using any paradox pokemon
I think Iron Jugulis is way too rarely used
And he end up being Rarely Used in Smogon Lmao ( my Bad RUBL )
Idk but i feel like this gen ppl are being more creative, seeing that from playing myself on both showdown and ranked itself i have faced a lot of different mons
Hi! I’m a huge fan of Pokémon vgc but have a lot of trouble trying to teambuild but none of the guides I’ve found have been helpful, could u pls make one! It would be very useful
Stupid question: how do you get the full team list to pop up during the battle like at 12:44?
14:38 the sun just like "ohshit a tera orb aite imma head out"
is the team good or did it just match up into BRUXISH
Ladder for the past 3 days have been random
Frosmoth bruxish alomomola coallassal WTF
based
Where is it?! Where’s THE comment!!? 😭😭
mugulis?
wait those names...its a detective conan team lmao
ever listened to Whole Lotta Red?
Gastrodon bellibolt op
I had no idea that belly drum will bring you to +6 even if you've had your attack stat decreased before 🤯
The description of the move is accurate in the case. It does say "The user maximizes its Attack "
Alomomola got fucking neutered when they stole its Heal Pulse!
Woke smeed Sydney ic 2k17
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