hello, great video but please could you point me in the right direction for part 2? for when you tie on the client, belay them down and then undo it all and pack, thanks.
Wouldn't it be more convenient to tie an inline loop like an alpine butterfly and then sit off to one side of the knot so that when the follower falls it doesnt squeeze the belayer? Sorry if there is something I am missing here! My question not withstanding, excellent content. I learned a lot!
Hi Arnold. One of the key elements of rope work for the Summer Mountain Leader is that it is extremely simple and uses as least knots as possible. A huge proportion of candidates are not climbers so the syllabus deliberately keeps things v straight forward, no krabs, slings or any of our climbing toys. Just 30meters of 8mm confidence rope. What your suggesting would be very appropriate if you had the skills and experience to do so safely but it’s definitely not what is required or expected for the SML qualification. Hope that explains it clearly enough? Cheers Sam
Great instructional video and we'll explained, thank you. Is the re-threaded overhand knot preferred over a bowline for SML? Specifically for tying yourself in.
S Fergus we have no problem with people using a bowline as long as it is correctly tied and butted up against a full stopper knot. As a ML provider we try and keep the rope work v simple and introduce the minimum of knots. The rope-work element can and does intimidate people and stop them partaking in the award. We keep to as simple a format as we can so people who are not used to using ropes don’t feel overwhelmed with loads of new info. From a teaching point of view the overhand is simpler than the bowline and easier to check if it is tied correctly. But super to happy for people to tie it if they wish. We do teach it WML but people have moved on and developed by the time they get there. Hope that helps? Sam 😃
@@LeadingEdgeMountain Hi Sam - Yeah that makes perfect sense - keeps it simple just using the one type of knot, thanks for taking the time to explain. I'd like to put myself through the ML scheme at some point and was interested to know 👌
What a wonderful teacher!
hello, great video but please could you point me in the right direction for part 2? for when you tie on the client, belay them down and then undo it all and pack, thanks.
thank you
Wouldn't it be more convenient to tie an inline loop like an alpine butterfly and then sit off to one side of the knot so that when the follower falls it doesnt squeeze the belayer? Sorry if there is something I am missing here! My question not withstanding, excellent content. I learned a lot!
Hi Arnold. One of the key elements of rope work for the Summer Mountain Leader is that it is extremely simple and uses as least knots as possible.
A huge proportion of candidates are not climbers so the syllabus deliberately keeps things v straight forward, no krabs, slings or any of our climbing toys. Just 30meters of 8mm confidence rope. What your suggesting would be very appropriate if you had the skills and experience to do so safely but it’s definitely not what is required or expected for the SML qualification. Hope that explains it clearly enough? Cheers Sam
Great instructional video and we'll explained, thank you. Is the re-threaded overhand knot preferred over a bowline for SML? Specifically for tying yourself in.
S Fergus we have no problem with people using a bowline as long as it is correctly tied and butted up against a full stopper knot.
As a ML provider we try and keep the rope work v simple and introduce the minimum of knots.
The rope-work element can and does intimidate people and stop them partaking in the award. We keep to as simple a format as we can so people who are not used to using ropes don’t feel overwhelmed with loads of new info.
From a teaching point of view the overhand is simpler than the bowline and easier to check if it is tied correctly. But super to happy for people to tie it if they wish.
We do teach it WML but people have moved on and developed by the time they get there.
Hope that helps? Sam 😃
@@LeadingEdgeMountain Hi Sam - Yeah that makes perfect sense - keeps it simple just using the one type of knot, thanks for taking the time to explain. I'd like to put myself through the ML scheme at some point and was interested to know 👌