I just listened to a pair of A3’s. They were amazing! I didn’t realize they were $9800 at one time. The dealer quoted me $15k a pair. That’s a big price hike. I would of bought the pair for $9800 on the spot.
I have had these for over a year (March 2021). Very good speaker as you would expect. The best I can do is to describe the one weakness. It is the bass. Yes it is a 'full range' speaker but (1) it only has two moderately sized woofers and (2) more important is that the bass is volume dependent. At low volume the bass is weak. On the other hand at high volumes the bass is good. Not only is it there but to my perception it is good quality bass. Maybe some equalization, but not for me. The treble is more than sufficient. The midrange seems as good as you can get. Looks: In the flesh it is vastly better than any photo. I would not even have considered this baby had I not had a personal view. Subjective sound quality. My fetish is 3d. What I got was excellent soundstage left to right. Almost no back to front soundstage. Rare sounds from beyond the speakers. No (one single exception film exception) vertical soundstage. However bear in mind that I have a below average listening room. If I had a larger listening room I have no doubt I would be upgrading this. The spikes. My dealer (who has vastly more experience than me) said the spikes would improve the sound. For my ancient ears I cannot hear the difference. Takeaway. Expensive (for me) but this is more relevant than chucking dosh at an amp or a source. I ain't selling.
Hi Steve, nice video! I also like the magico speakers and know the owner alan wolf since years. To drive a magico speaker to a great soundperformance you have to use great poweramplifiers like the soulutions etc. to get good results. I have designed the soulution gear years ago, and so it's no surprise to see this combi very often.
Yes, a steal, since that's the only way I'll be able to get my hands on them. Anyway I'm quite satisfied with my 18 year old Klipsh 5.1 Reference Series. I've yet to live in a house big enough to justify them.
Magico A3, B&W 804 d3 and the revel f228be are all very close to me. All very very good. Did not hear much at Axponia that I liked better that did not cost as much as a house. At this point you are well up the curve of diminishing returns.
I had a very poor reception from Rhapsody when i asked to listen to a pAir of Magico’s to the point of calling the Magico distributor .. and obtaining an Alternative dealership name .. i will never step foot in Rhapsody .. and when i buy either the A 1 ‘s or A 3’s i will be emailing a copy of the sales invoice to Rhapsody ..just to piss on there parade a bit
For the very wealthy, spending $10,000 ( or much more ) on a pair of speakers isn't much to talk about, is it? I guess for the vast majority of the not-very-wealthy but hard working people who truly believe is audiophile sound, the vintage speaker market never looked better. I am a budding vintage speaker collector and my newest purchase of a pair of near-mint 1975 Advent Large Speakers ( made of real wood! ) may seem basic and lack the snobbery of most audiophiles, but their warm "New England" sound and potent bass - is absolutely awesome. I'll never sell them.
This is a closed design right? How low can it go considering it is not as big as the more expensive Magicos? For so much money i would expect a full range speaker.
Hey, maybe you could do a video on the MBL Radialstrahler speakers, those are only two hundred and sixty-three thousand dollars a pair! Match 'em with their two forty-two thousand dollar amps and you've got a real bargain for sure! : D
That is a pretty wacky price gap between the two products. It just strikes me as strange and suspicious even. (I see now that there are other models in between those, just not in that room at the making of this video - thank you Bob V. for clarifying that for me.)
That was not accurate. Magcio has S1MKII at $16.5K, S3II at $28K, S5II at $38K and S7's at $58K. Steve just mentioned what I had in my room at the time, but I did have the S5II's in the room.
Tidal? And no “digital” comments, Steve? If they sounded THAT GOOD in a crammed NY audio store, imagine what they’d sound like in a “proper” dedicated room. Of course, listening with 50k in electronics never hurts...
Man that is right at my limit on price. That is if I had the money to go out and by speakers which I don't. I'm looking for a donation of a pair if Magico has a pair of A3 that they might want to get rid of.
Steve, have you heard the Revel Performa3 F208Be? I heard them last year in prototype form at a projected price of about $11,000 US. They could be stiff competition for the A3s and for any speaker at any price. They were among the most flawless sounding speakers I ever heard particularly in their freedom from compression effects. Another stunner for similar money is the Kii Audio three. I'd love to hear a shootout between these models.
I was a dealer for Kii for a short time, great sounding speakers. Revel's are also great sounding speakers. So many great speakers available now, even a pair of Elac's for $300ish sound VG. It's the golden age of audio at all price points imho.
Hi Steve. Three questions. How does this compare to the new Kanta 2? Both are at the same price point. Is the Bass SQ in the Magico A3 more punchy than the Kantas? Do you recommend a SS amp or tube amp to power this
Why does those undoubtly gorgeous sounding speakers have to look like coffins? Their looks are a letdown to me. Oh, I know: you told us you always listen with your eyes closed Steve :-)) For me: fly in an Italian designer!
What do you think about An Adcom gtp 600 with a McIntosh Mc 7100 Amp driving a B and W DM 602 S3 it was always used as two channels. . I purchased at Harvey's on 45 st. NYC. I hardly use it. Any thoughts from the community and Steve.
I love music and audio gear but it comes to a point were these extremely expensive equipment just start to bother me. Above a given point I have no doubt that there is no performance increment, I mean, there is no "better" or "worse" and you are not upgrading anymore. Everything is just different from that point forward and I guess one is just spending for the sake of having something new and not for having a better sound. Not cool.
The Studio 530, and 590 are too good. I wish they had real wood veneer cabinets; but , what an insane value. I'm still too poor too to buy a pair; yet, coming into some money back in 1986, I bought a pair of JBL L100t's, L20t's, and a B-380 Sub, which I still enjoy today.
Studio's and LS-50 got too expensive. There are better Speakers not too far north even for the KEF R300 , like Markaudio Cesti B's for instance. 1200-1500$ is too much to pay for 750-900$ Speakers. Top ten lists are your enemy here. K-Russel makes some great Bookshelf also.
AudiophileTubes ...the Polk 10s were wonderful but had their limitations. Deep bass and ultimate loudness but soundstaging and imaging were outstanding. For me, the beauty is in the sound which the A3s is exemplary in every aspect and disappear sonically. Sonus Faber probably would satisfy your design needs and still give the sound you want.
@@jeromejax8675 no comparison A3! way better than Kanta. I could hear sounds coming from the individual drivers whereas A3 sounds like a point source. Total lack of hardness and tons of air and slight warmth I think due to the carbon materials used but to be picky it lacks a bit of richness of tone say from a Harbeth or Quad ESL 57. But it does all the other audiophile things well. Good luck.
Benjamin Goldmuntz you can’t definitely purchase a new Hegel H360 for under 5K... I believe msrp is 6K but discount are definitely there to be had. I switched from a $10K McIntosh MA8000 to the Hegel and was blown away with how superior the Hegel was. I ended up moving up the line to Hegel separates
You might be surprised if you visited. The room looks smaller than it is in the video. It's 18' X 35' X 11'. It's way overcrowded at the moment because of the Wilson Alexandrias that we took in on trade and are set up for a potential buyer who is coming in to listen to them. You are always welcome to come in for a listen. This "space" is our laboratory/workspace. We have other listening spaces as well. Ck out our site at Rhapsody.audio to see some of our more formal listening rooms.
There is a Techdas AirForce3 with a Graham arm/Lyra Etna SL and an AirForceOnePremium with a Graham Elite/Koetsu Coralstone, but you don't even have to use them as listening to Tidal through our set up sounds amazing. It's better once somone actually hears it vs. talking about this or that if you have not personally heard it. There is also a Studer A812, cd's or anything else you can think of available if you would like hear it.
This is getting out of hand now. A box with drivers that sounds "pretty freakin amazing" is not worth that kind of money, ever. This is all about making a very high quality product, and charging an outrageous amount of money for it, targeted to wealthy folks.
Sorry guys, I feel like I am on a roll this morning. It is actually cheaper to get an ear transplant on a pair of ears that cannot the tell the difference in speakers! Problem solved.
$9800 a pair? Really? If you ever make it to Phoenix please look me up. I'll show you a pair of speakers that will truly blow you away. Even with a Denon receiver instead of an audiophile amp and components, I promise you a listening experience!
Hmmm.... The cabinets are only 10" x 11" x 3 1/2' tall, are made of aluminium, and contain only 4 drivers each... What exactly justifies the cost of almost $10,000? I'm sure they sound great .... but 10G ! seriously? How much does it actually cost Magico to make these? The only steal I see going on here is one by Magico.
absolutely no justification; look at those 2 cabinets: the $9800 was desgined square on purpose just to make the other model 10 times expensive; pure BS and still not even a spec chart about these "amazing" speakers
mrpositronia Well I really -I- can't really say anything about them. I admittedly simply reacted...no harm intended. I am a fan, subscriber and responding is something of a morning ritual. But this just blew me out of my socks. No offense intended.
I'm trying to figure out how to come up with $2,300 for a pair of Tannoy Revolution XT8F & I don't even have any other components to go with them. This audiophile business is for people with more money than sense.
I'm not criticizing anyone. I'm stating an observational fact. Thanks, but I can only wish for such extravagance. Now I'm dreaming of Golden Ear Triton 5's over the Tannoy XT8F's, but the bills just never stop coming. I don't have more money than sense unfortunately.
Wilderness Music The only thing unfathomable is your logic. Why don't you go to India and buy speakers that sound better for a lot less money? Then, you'd have a logical argument even with the dichotomy in economics.
Wilderness Music Well I guess that is where the disconnect occurs. If you think nanographene cones and anodized aluminum cabinets are commonplace and cheap, then I could see your point. But they are expensive and difficult with which to work. You won't many speakers for $10,000 using beryllium, nanographene, neodymium and aluminum cabinets in a full range design. In fact, I can names dozens that cost more and use none of these materials. I wouldn't call the cars coming out of India world class either. Easy to make something inferior that costs less but more difficult to make something better that costs less. The A3 is a world class speaker at a competitive price. If you can find a better sounding and better built speaker for less money then you should definitely inquire about distribution rights and purchase a pair as well. I have met and spoken with many individuals who claim to own the holy Grail of speakers that cost next to nothing but the auditioning never bears fruit. I'm getting a little tired of the criticism high performance audio endures. There is more profit in clothing than in high-end audio yet I don't hear the complaints that there is 200 to 400 percent profit in the shirt you are probably wearing right now.
Since I spent my life in production and design, managed a production shop for 22 years, I know a little about design and production. This is why I get disappointed in incompetent engineers who need more time to design a speaker than an automobile. One can refine a cone and magnet speaker to great detail, but it is not innovative enough to warrant the high R&D cost we are expected to pay at $10,000. A speaker design that does not use a cone/magnet to produce sound, I would expect to pay a high cost for the R&D and the speaker as it comes off assembly with final fit. It is interesting to have this conversation with you, I have had the same one with other products and consumers who don't seem to understand they are paying for incompetence from engineers who could not get a job in aerospace, watercraft or the auto industry. Maybe too many drugs in school??? IF these speakers are hand built and limited to one unit per week, then we are not talking production anymore, and any price can be reasonable...but I don't think this is the case here. For example, take the MOOG Synthesizer assembly plant in North Carolina, they are hand building the finest synthesizers in the world, with second to none circuitry and the finest design and construction (compatible construction to these speakers) and the average synth cost (100% made in the USA) is $2000.00. This cost reflects a much smaller market share than home speakers, a customer base less than 1% of the home stereo market.
I'm not convinced ... I'm not convinced ... expensive companies that suddenly get out a cheap product, they usually do that because of necessity and to attract more customers... with their famous name ... and the parts and whole product have their ''edges cut'' for the reason of saving... and at the end, when the product with ''famous'' name arrived and settled down in your home and living room, it sucks. For $ 10,000, is possible to found speakers that are flagships of their companies, in the terms of design, technology and sound. I'm not saying that Steve is not right for the Magico A3, I just want to say that in such cases we have to pay more attention and see where the bad sides and points of the product are hidden. Peace
Dragan Antonijević The companies use what they've learned from making their flagship to integrate the technologies into speakers lower down in the lineup. The economy of scale also allows the technology to be cheaper. How the hell do you think you have ABS and airbags in economy cars?
I spent an afternoon with the Magico A3 as well. I heard what Steve did; that these are indeed something special. I ordered a pair the next day. Hopefully they'll sound as good in my home as the showroom. Counting the days... For a few of the "special" folks leaving negative comments: If you've never even been in the same building as this (or any product) perhaps you shouldn't tell everyone how much it sucks. All you are doing is revealing how much you suck. In other words, get help.
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I just listened to a pair of A3’s. They were amazing! I didn’t realize they were $9800 at one time. The dealer quoted me $15k a pair. That’s a big price hike. I would of bought the pair for $9800 on the spot.
Yes, steal it's the first word that come to my mind!
Steve; I love your speaker reviews but can't you PLAY them so that we can hear them for just a little bit??
Funny, but accurately stated:
"By Magico standards, that's a bargain"
Yes, that is theirs standard.. :)
They can keep their standards and I will be happy with my Legacy Focus SE!
I have had these for over a year (March 2021). Very good speaker as you would expect. The best I can do is to describe the one weakness. It is the bass. Yes it is a 'full range' speaker but (1) it only has two moderately sized woofers and (2) more important is that the bass is volume dependent. At low volume the bass is weak. On the other hand at high volumes the bass is good. Not only is it there but to my perception it is good quality bass. Maybe some equalization, but not for me. The treble is more than sufficient. The midrange seems as good as you can get.
Looks: In the flesh it is vastly better than any photo. I would not even have considered this baby had I not had a personal view.
Subjective sound quality. My fetish is 3d. What I got was excellent soundstage left to right. Almost no back to front soundstage. Rare sounds from beyond the speakers. No (one single exception film exception) vertical soundstage. However bear in mind that I have a below average listening room. If I had a larger listening room I have no doubt I would be upgrading this.
The spikes. My dealer (who has vastly more experience than me) said the spikes would improve the sound. For my ancient ears I cannot hear the difference.
Takeaway. Expensive (for me) but this is more relevant than chucking dosh at an amp or a source. I ain't selling.
Thank you so much for your detailed description... I'm thinking about getting these possibly in your description really helped 🙂👍
Hi Steve, nice video! I also like the magico speakers and know the owner alan wolf since years. To drive a magico speaker to a great soundperformance you have to use great poweramplifiers like the soulutions etc. to get good results. I have designed the soulution gear years ago, and so it's no surprise to see this combi very often.
i have to admit Steve, i agree on the A3. the moment i heard it, i felt the at $9800 it is a BARGAIN at its level of performance/cost.
...hifitommy
Just so you know, the price of these speakers is now $15, 400 excl tax.
Yes, a steal, since that's the only way I'll be able to get my hands on them. Anyway I'm quite satisfied with my 18 year old Klipsh 5.1 Reference Series. I've yet to live in a house big enough to justify them.
Magico A3, B&W 804 d3 and the revel f228be are all very close to me. All very very good. Did not hear much at Axponia that I liked better that did not cost as much as a house. At this point you are well up the curve of diminishing returns.
I had a very poor reception from Rhapsody when i asked to listen to a pAir of Magico’s to the point of calling the Magico distributor .. and obtaining an Alternative dealership name .. i will never step foot in Rhapsody .. and when i buy either the A 1 ‘s or A 3’s i will be emailing a copy of the sales invoice to Rhapsody ..just to piss on there parade a bit
Dame that room, wish that was my office lol. Love them Goldmund speakers to.
Never did post that review, did you? I was interested in that.
Oh it's a steal all right and it's the consumers money!!!😎
They're both bargains with respect to the Goldmunds in the background, though.
You can buy the Sony secs5`s for a fraction of those and the Sony`s sound amazing to!
Would be interesting to see how it compares to the Revel Performa F228be.
hey Steve, I get it, but they should throw in a new car with those M3's
Greg T Maybe Ferrari will throw in a pair of Magicos if you ask them
They are called magico because they can make your money disappear.
For the very wealthy, spending $10,000 ( or much more ) on a pair of speakers isn't much to talk about, is it? I guess for the vast majority of the not-very-wealthy but hard working people who truly believe is audiophile sound, the vintage speaker market never looked better. I am a budding vintage speaker collector and my newest purchase of a pair of near-mint 1975 Advent Large Speakers ( made of real wood! ) may seem basic and lack the snobbery of most audiophiles, but their warm "New England" sound and potent bass - is absolutely awesome. I'll never sell them.
Pls give us your view on which Magico tweeter is best.. not convinced by the tweeter in the M3
How do they compare with Wilson Audio’s Watt/ Puppy!?
It was such a deal and sold so well they raised the price $1000-2000 more.
In Germany they are around 18k USD now...
Since you last posted, the price has gone up to $15,400.
@@chasehatton3691 Jesus christ, magico are insane.
Wow. What a bargain.
I'll take dozen of each.
Send them over to the old Chinese amusement park.
How does it compare to Dynaudio Confidence 20s?
Wish I could hear them and then hear the 85,000.00 ones .
William, YOU CAN;) if ever in NYC just call and come in for a listen, to both the A3 and M3. Not to buy, just to listen. You are always welcome.
It's a steal, all right, but not in the way you think.
How can anyone assess those speakers with all that clutter?
a company selling $85000 speakers and not having a decent dedicated uncluttered room? I'll tell you what those speakers sound like: a magical scam
This is a closed design right? How low can it go considering it is not as big as the more expensive Magicos? For so much money i would expect a full range speaker.
Hey, maybe you could do a video on the MBL Radialstrahler speakers, those are only two hundred and sixty-three thousand dollars a pair! Match 'em with their two forty-two thousand dollar amps and you've got a real bargain for sure! : D
A3 sounded great at AXPONA.
That is a pretty wacky price gap between the two products. It just strikes me as strange and suspicious even. (I see now that there are other models in between those, just not in that room at the making of this video - thank you Bob V. for clarifying that for me.)
That was not accurate. Magcio has S1MKII at $16.5K, S3II at $28K, S5II at $38K and S7's at $58K. Steve just mentioned what I had in my room at the time, but I did have the S5II's in the room.
Ahhh. Well thank you VERY much for that clarification. That makes more sense to me.
Very Welcome....
Home audio - fools gold
Tidal? And no “digital” comments, Steve? If they sounded THAT GOOD in a crammed NY audio store, imagine what they’d sound like in a “proper” dedicated room. Of course, listening with 50k in electronics never hurts...
Apparently all the gremlins can magically disappear when it's expedient that they do.
They've increased to $12,800. Still a bargain in the grand scheme of things.
Will Ayre V5 Power amplifier drive A3 Speakers beautifully in 200 sq ft rectangular room?
Thanks for sharing.
What is this 2-box-separate speaker ?
Man that is right at my limit on price. That is if I had the money to go out and by speakers which I don't. I'm looking for a donation of a pair if Magico has a pair of A3 that they might want to get rid of.
Would the A3's match well with a Yamaha A-S3000 Integrated Amplifier?
A3, M3 , S2 K9900, Sasha....how much different can we listen ?
Steve, have you heard the Revel Performa3 F208Be? I heard them last year in prototype form at a projected price of about $11,000 US. They could be stiff competition for the A3s and for any speaker at any price. They were among the most flawless sounding speakers I ever heard particularly in their freedom from compression effects. Another stunner for similar money is the Kii Audio three. I'd love to hear a shootout between these models.
I was a dealer for Kii for a short time, great sounding speakers. Revel's are also great sounding speakers. So many great speakers available now, even a pair of Elac's for $300ish sound VG. It's the golden age of audio at all price points imho.
It's F228Be
You know full well the 85k Magico is not going to sound 10x better than the A3! You are lying if you say it does or delusional
that's a ton of nice gear! Is Rhapsody a CEC dealer? I love CEC transports.
This is Rhapsody. Yes we are a CEC dealer, great transports and we love there new DAC as well.
I work for magico cnc machinist lol I build ur speakers enjoy american made!!!
So you can get me a discount then? 😂
Yes and I bet you don't see any of the huge profits they make. M3 doesn't even cost 5k to make, absolute con
Hi Steve. Three questions. How does this compare to the new Kanta 2? Both are at the same price point. Is the Bass SQ in the Magico A3 more punchy than the Kantas? Do you recommend a SS amp or tube amp to power this
Never heard a Kanta. The A3 seems to prefer solid state amps.
Its a steal alright.... steal your money! lol :-)
Why does those undoubtly gorgeous sounding speakers have to look like coffins?
Their looks are a letdown to me. Oh, I know: you told us you always listen with your eyes closed Steve :-))
For me: fly in an Italian designer!
but If you listen with your are closed, in a dark room, then why you need cabinets that cost, say $4000??
you should see italian speakers - they look much more like coffins!
i.e. sonus fabers
????
Well, if I ever die, I want to be buried in a SF Stradivari !
That's obvious: the more the extra soundquality has impact on you.
Well chosen 4k $ speakers do sound better than 500 $ speakers.
Just try!
It sounded good because it stood between a lot of competitors and wanted to be the best.
What do you think about An Adcom gtp 600 with a McIntosh Mc 7100 Amp driving a B and W DM 602 S3 it was always used as two channels. . I purchased at Harvey's on 45 st. NYC. I hardly use it. Any thoughts from the community and Steve.
Julia M They are dated and much better can be had for very little money today. The Adcom is the worst of the lot and the McIntosh the best .
PFFT. I'd love to compare them to $4800 Salk sound.
I love music and audio gear but it comes to a point were these extremely expensive equipment just start to bother me. Above a given point I have no doubt that there is no performance increment, I mean, there is no "better" or "worse" and you are not upgrading anymore. Everything is just different from that point forward and I guess one is just spending for the sake of having something new and not for having a better sound. Not cool.
How would my JBL Studio 530's compare? Or my vintage Polk Monitor 10's? Can medical debt-ridden, poor people like me still enjoy 'higher end' sound?
The Studio 530, and 590 are too good. I wish they had real wood veneer cabinets; but , what an insane value. I'm still too poor too to buy a pair; yet, coming into some money back in 1986, I bought a pair of JBL L100t's, L20t's, and a B-380 Sub, which I still enjoy today.
AudiophileTubes You can but not with the polk 10.
Studio's and LS-50 got too expensive. There are better Speakers not too far north even for the KEF R300 , like Markaudio Cesti B's for instance. 1200-1500$ is too much to pay for 750-900$ Speakers. Top ten lists are your enemy here. K-Russel makes some great Bookshelf also.
AudiophileTubes ...the Polk 10s were wonderful but had their limitations. Deep bass and ultimate loudness but soundstaging and imaging were outstanding.
For me, the beauty is in the sound which the A3s is exemplary in every aspect and disappear sonically. Sonus Faber probably would satisfy your design needs and still give the sound you want.
Do you have the new Revel F228be? If so, any impressions?
Sorry, no.
Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac Thanks for the response. BTW how does the Magico A3 compare to the Focal Kanta 2 ? Both are at the same price point.
@@jeromejax8675 no comparison A3! way better than Kanta. I could hear sounds coming from the individual drivers whereas A3 sounds like a point source. Total lack of hardness and tons of air and slight warmth I think due to the carbon materials used but to be picky it lacks a bit of richness of tone say from a Harbeth or Quad ESL 57. But it does all the other audiophile things well. Good luck.
A3 is a much better Magico deal!! 😘🍾🎈
It is Magico what people willing to pay for speakers...🙄
Yes
to whom it concerns
How does it compare to Maggies? I have heard from some people that say that Maggies and Magicos sound similar.
I don't agree, Maggies are more open and spacious, Magicos are more transparent, dynamic, and the bass has more impact.
Can you recommend a sub 5000$ integrated amp that would match well with these speakers?
Benjamin Goldmuntz you can’t definitely purchase a new Hegel H360 for under 5K... I believe msrp is 6K but discount are definitely there to be had. I switched from a $10K McIntosh MA8000 to the Hegel and was blown away with how superior the Hegel was. I ended up moving up the line to Hegel separates
Benjamin Goldmuntz sorry I meant can definitely purchase, stupid autocorrect
“ Washing machine.” 😂 I’d say more like a military tank though.
That amp also offers a modular "spin cycle" option. Great for cleaning punk music out of the capacitors.
Oh God more nice stuff for other people who aren't me...
I have the A3s. A very nice speaker to be sure. Does all the audiophile stuff - soundstage etc.
Ear translates don't cost that much.
Pls compare focal
Yikes what a room, how can anything sound good in that (lack of) space?
You might be surprised if you visited. The room looks smaller than it is in the video. It's 18' X 35' X 11'. It's way overcrowded at the moment because of the Wilson Alexandrias that we took in on trade and are set up for a potential buyer who is coming in to listen to them. You are always welcome to come in for a listen. This "space" is our laboratory/workspace. We have other listening spaces as well. Ck out our site at Rhapsody.audio to see some of our more formal listening rooms.
It just looks like a 2000,- speaker though...
For that money I will buy Legacy's focus SE
If you really want to audition a speaker for performance, why would you use Tidal? Did they not have a turntable?
There is a Techdas AirForce3 with a Graham arm/Lyra Etna SL and an AirForceOnePremium with a Graham Elite/Koetsu Coralstone, but you don't even have to use them as listening to Tidal through our set up sounds amazing. It's better once somone actually hears it vs. talking about this or that if you have not personally heard it. There is also a Studer A812, cd's or anything else you can think of available if you would like hear it.
LOL.... Good one!
Precisely!
That was my point...it was sarcasm. Everyone know Steve is always ranting about LP's and the warm goodness of analog.
This is getting out of hand now. A box with drivers that sounds "pretty freakin amazing" is not worth that kind of money, ever. This is all about making a very high quality product, and charging an outrageous amount of money for it, targeted to wealthy folks.
There both not worth the money you were impressed with money when you worked for that idiot at S by S and still are nothing is worth these price’s 🥴
Sorry guys, I feel like I am on a roll this morning. It is actually cheaper to get an ear transplant on a pair of ears that cannot the tell the difference in speakers! Problem solved.
Looks like an exotic car show room. Man. So interesting. A lot of far out speakers and hardware.
Thanks.
$9800 a pair? Really? If you ever make it to Phoenix please look me up. I'll show you a pair of speakers that will truly blow you away. Even with a Denon receiver instead of an audiophile amp and components, I promise you a listening experience!
ken cohagen Lol
These or bs-22's ?
Hmmm.... The cabinets are only 10" x 11" x 3 1/2' tall, are made of aluminium, and contain only 4 drivers each... What exactly justifies the cost of almost $10,000? I'm sure they sound great .... but 10G ! seriously? How much does it actually cost Magico to make these? The only steal I see going on here is one by Magico.
absolutely no justification; look at those 2 cabinets: the $9800 was desgined square on purpose just to make the other model 10 times expensive; pure BS and still not even a spec chart about these "amazing" speakers
and what on earth would a 'spec chart' tell you - it says nothing about how something sounds
There is a full spec sheet for the A3s on the Magico site here:magico.net/Marketing/Press_Release_A3.php
antigen4 if you write that then you cant even spell the "a" in audiophile
freq response: 20hz 50Khz, lol, this pair lets you hear what a human ear cant hear
I said no to the title of this vid, Steve. I did not go passed that...
No worries, see you next time.
I don't think he was listening to you when he uploaded it. Good thing too, as I wanted to hear what he had to say about them.
mrpositronia
Well I really -I- can't really say anything about them. I admittedly simply reacted...no harm intended.
I am a fan, subscriber and responding is something of a morning ritual. But this just blew me out of my socks. No offense intended.
Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac
For sure. Morning ritual for me to check in. Fun and interesting
Thanks!
I'm trying to figure out how to come up with $2,300 for a pair of Tannoy Revolution XT8F & I don't even have any other components to go with them. This audiophile business is for people with more money than sense.
I'm not criticizing anyone. I'm stating an observational fact. Thanks, but I can only wish for such extravagance. Now I'm dreaming of Golden Ear Triton 5's over the Tannoy XT8F's, but the bills just never stop coming. I don't have more money than sense unfortunately.
A pair of speakers or I could go to India and for the same money buy 4 highly engineered new automobiles......hmmmm.....what is wrong with this???
if u think about millionaires magico-lly scammed then there''s nothing wrong with this
Wilderness Music The only thing unfathomable is your logic. Why don't you go to India and buy speakers that sound better for a lot less money? Then, you'd have a logical argument even with the dichotomy in economics.
Wilderness Music Well I guess that is where the disconnect occurs. If you think nanographene cones and anodized aluminum cabinets are commonplace and cheap, then I could see your point. But they are expensive and difficult with which to work. You won't many speakers for $10,000 using beryllium, nanographene, neodymium and aluminum cabinets in a full range design. In fact, I can names dozens that cost more and use none of these materials. I wouldn't call the cars coming out of India world class either. Easy to make something inferior that costs less but more difficult to make something better that costs less. The A3 is a world class speaker at a competitive price. If you can find a better sounding and better built speaker for less money then you should definitely inquire about distribution rights and purchase a pair as well. I have met and spoken with many individuals who claim to own the holy Grail of speakers that cost next to nothing but the auditioning never bears fruit. I'm getting a little tired of the criticism high performance audio endures. There is more profit in clothing than in high-end audio yet I don't hear the complaints that there is 200 to 400 percent profit in the shirt you are probably wearing right now.
Since I spent my life in production and design, managed a production shop for 22 years, I know a little about design and production. This is why I get disappointed in incompetent engineers who need more time to design a speaker than an automobile. One can refine a cone and magnet speaker to great detail, but it is not innovative enough to warrant the high R&D cost we are expected to pay at $10,000. A speaker design that does not use a cone/magnet to produce sound, I would expect to pay a high cost for the R&D and the speaker as it comes off assembly with final fit. It is interesting to have this conversation with you, I have had the same one with other products and consumers who don't seem to understand they are paying for incompetence from engineers who could not get a job in aerospace, watercraft or the auto industry. Maybe too many drugs in school??? IF these speakers are hand built and limited to one unit per week, then we are not talking production anymore, and any price can be reasonable...but I don't think this is the case here. For example, take the MOOG Synthesizer assembly plant in North Carolina, they are hand building the finest synthesizers in the world, with second to none circuitry and the finest design and construction (compatible construction to these speakers) and the average synth cost (100% made in the USA) is $2000.00. This cost reflects a much smaller market share than home speakers, a customer base less than 1% of the home stereo market.
I'm not convinced ... I'm not convinced ... expensive companies that suddenly get out a cheap product, they usually do that because of necessity and to attract more customers... with their famous name ... and the parts and whole product have their ''edges cut'' for the reason of saving... and at the end, when the product with ''famous'' name arrived and settled down in your home and living room, it sucks. For $ 10,000, is possible to found speakers that are flagships of their companies, in the terms of design, technology and sound. I'm not saying that Steve is not right for the Magico A3, I just want to say that in such cases we have to pay more attention and see where the bad sides and points of the product are hidden. Peace
Dragan Antonijević The companies use what they've learned from making their flagship to integrate the technologies into speakers lower down in the lineup. The economy of scale also allows the technology to be cheaper. How the hell do you think you have ABS and airbags in economy cars?
Good grief, there's some serious hifi there Kaiser Classics, S5's, Raidho...Anyway I'll take the Tekton Double Impacts at $4000
All ridiculous high prices .....
I spent an afternoon with the Magico A3 as well. I heard what Steve did; that these are indeed something special. I ordered a pair the next day. Hopefully they'll sound as good in my home as the showroom. Counting the days...
For a few of the "special" folks leaving negative comments: If you've never even been in the same building as this (or any product) perhaps you shouldn't tell everyone how much it sucks. All you are doing is revealing how much you suck. In other words, get help.
you are very lucky did you do a post delivery report when you got them!
I think the price has increased to $12,500.
ATC
Splort
Steal it ... No speaker is worth this much ... Rip off
Overpriced nonsense. I will put my Legacy Focus SE against any speaker below 30k. The prices for what you get are a joke.
the sound is ugly
Utterly useless and uninformative