If Smells Like Teen Spirit was released in the 2000s...
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2008
- Yes, this video is old now, nobody cares.
Another Loudness war video.
If Smells Like Teen Spirit was released in today, it might have sounded like this.
Fair use assumed.
“why the hell are they using the blue text screen... oh wait..”
hello, do you like markets?
@@briantcideu8619 hi brian
@@asterling2776 hi
@@briantcideu8619 guy eats natural hotdog
@@asterling2776 yeah i know the video you're talking about
Seeing "today" and "2008" as the same thing just hurts, man. 13 years ago. Damn.
Whenever I hear someone say anything abt 10-15 years ago I still think 2000-2005 range. Time really flys
I wish we could go back.
@@DARTHNECRION seriously, take me back!
We're getting old 😅
@@tennesseecurtiss5741 I think about the 90's haha
This video was released 13 years ago but the point he makes is somehow even more true today. Barely anything you hear on the radio now isn't compressed to god damn Narnia and back
(to clarify I'm talking about dynamic range compression which has to do with sound volume, something completely different from audio compression)
maybe that's because radio is actually lossy as hell and is an inherently compressed medium
@@spitgorge2021 we had the same FM transmitters in the 90s brother
Complete lies
@@spitgorge2021 I think he meant dynamic compression, more on volume, loudness and dynamics and not data compression.
actually i think the loudness wars have more or less ended due to streaming services having automated loudness now. you can even notice dynamics coming back in a lot of new songs
"Today" is 13 years ago now. I miss the 2000's. Childhood was sweet.
Rip our childhoods
Yes
I don't know why but I expected to hear Kurt's voice to be autotuned to hell
This video only demonstrates how the song would have been *mixed*
During the early 2000's to mid 2010's there was a loudness war in basically every genre. It was all about whose music had the loudest mix, which led to clipping when all frequencies were amplified to the max.
Me too lmao
Me too
Same
@@Celatra cool but if I tried my amp would blow up because of the volume
When today is actually 14 years ago
U right
Haha
its 13 years
this will be wrong soon
FR
See you in another decade or so my dudes, till the algorithm unites again.
I see eye to eye on that
imagine seeing 23 years ago on there
that would be so weird, but probably is gonna happen
@@suqma yea, like the original Ryan Higa “how to be” videos will have a “2 decades” stamp on them
farewell my friend
Proud to say I actually watched this 13 years ago. Glad to see it made a comeback :)
Nice
When "today" is actually 10 years ago
Aidan Garvey Yeah this just came into my recommendations :/
oh my god I just realised
Aidan Garvey no it’s not! It’s 18 years ago!!
This video was released in 2008
Aidan Garvey...yes but in. Doesn’t matter...over your head mate.
“Today”
I was expecting some electronic hip hop drums and auto tuned voice
"Oct 7, 2008"
found the boomer
You're actually right
HELP SAME
I was expecting earrape.
Congrats, you predicted the 2011 remaster.
They shouldn't remaster 70's and onwards.
Most CDs and Vinyls from the time and today that aren't remastered are fire 🔥
The Doors or Led Zeppelin sound beautiful, Inxs, Depeche Mode, like come on.
I'm more of a Nu-Metal person but y'all get it xP
@@ThaTruFily I'm not gonna take the opinion of anyone who says "vinyls" seriously
@@BrodyArgo Turntable discs?
That you like little combative rascal?
I don't tolerate people like you.
Antisocial kid.
@@BrodyArgo Let's hear it big guy, how are they called?
How does one work?
Stfu if you know nothing!
According to RUclips recommendations "TODAY" was 13 years ago.
It's been 12 years and this finally got recommended
Same hereee
@@amyjonestaylor9231 same mate xd I though the video was from 2020 and It was from 2008 xd
@@darkangelvegeta9690 i was happy for two seconds i tell you
i searched
Same
The irony is the dynamic range in the original makes it sound far ‘louder’
I got a nagging suspicion this person didn't bring the volume back up after compressing the crap out of it
the irony is that you can change the volume... back in 1994 they still used records/vinyl so they didn't need to digitalise the music. therefore, music has NO form of compression whatsoever when it's embedded in literal wax, whereas, digitalised music either comes in lossy or lossless compression depending on the audio quality. which obviously means you'll lose some data when listening to it digitally..
Dynamic tracks sound more open too. Compression is probably the most abused yet underutilized and misunderstood audio tools of all time.
@@swaggypanda1808 two completely different kinds of compression my dude. Sounds to me like you're talking about data compression (the lossy data types like MP3 that have their bits "compressed" to save file space). The video is about dynamic compression, which is making the loud parts of the song quieter, so you can turn everything up again and make it louder without clipping. Dynamic compression has been a thing almost as long as electric audio has been a thing. It just didn't get so abused until the early 2000s.
@@swaggypanda1808 ... what? So if i use an analog compressor to record something, then press it into a vinyl, it wont be compressed? come on, think with your head.
If "Smells like Teen Spirit" were released in 2021, it would be a mumble rap about snorting laundry detergent powder and stealing all the toilets at school, but otherwise most of the lyrics would remain about the same
Well, Kurt mumbled so much people didn't know what the lyrics were, and high schoolers did in fact snort, well, bleach, and stole toilets at school back then. And blew up toilets with cherry bombs. So not much has changed.
"mumble rap"
what year are we in
@@wavsnackssss he still in 2018
Oh brother a boomer learned how to use a computer
@@artoro8 Congratulations!
Good for you
When today is 50 years ago... Hello from future:) Yes, we still listening Nirvana)
10 years later and this is in my recommended
Sterling Archer exactly
Sterling Archer yeah wtf
No idea why but me too like what relevance does this have now?
Sterling Archer me too
Sterling Archer, I know right....
Who else expected a trap remix or something like that
ThatLittleKitten me
ThatLittleKitten and then realized it was 2008
Was there even trap back to 2008?
More like a heavy ass djent break down 🤣🤣🤣
That would be terrible
As this weirdly just popped into everyone's recommended, we are obliged to make a 2021 version
Someone needs to recreate this 'If Smells like Teen Spirit was released in 2021' and just compress the absolute holy crap out of it.
A video from 2008 just got recommended to me
Straiden same
Me 2
probably because your profile pic is from 2008.
Same
sAme
i clicked on This thinking it was gonna be a trap beat remix and then i was confused,, after looking at the comments i glanced at the description,,,, im geeked
sameee
deadass thought the same
Me too😂😂
Same g
Same omf
13 years, also I completely expected some joke boomer "argument" but no it was actually a valid thought
Haha boomer bad amirite guys?
@@RESIST_THE_GREAT_REPLACEMENT lol a "my own research" guy.
No hate but you can't be lecturing people being so out there.
@@RESIST_THE_GREAT_REPLACEMENT Just sayin'
The thing is... even back when this video came out, any decent sound engineer wasn't just putting a limiter on a track like this - besides regular compression and limiting there was usually multiband compression and a loudness maximizer (which wouldn't give you digital artifacts that you hear in this video). Sure you lose some dynamic range but whether that's a good or bad thing totally depends on the genre and specific song. Also nowadays this is often done with (ai) resonance suppressors and dynamic eqs before compression which can give tracks a dynamic feel even through all that compression and limiting
Yes compression got better over the years, but just because a shit looks like gold doesn’t I would want to buy it.
@@abdo-dr1tu so you're making a blanket statement about compression in the mastering track? It's always shit?
@@abdo-dr1tu also my main point wasn't even about how compression got better over time lol
AI resonance suppressors - you mean like soothe/Gullfoss? If so, I wouldn't say they necessarily give the "dynamic feel" or help to increase perceived dynamic range, so I find this example to be kind of strange.
@@user-br9th4ei6v yes soothe and gulfoss but there are other ai assisted dynamic eq/multiband compression plugins (that all have similar ideas but work differently) on the market. The idea is that the overall volume is capped and controlled by compression/limiting but different areas in the frequency spectrum are constantly reacting to the audio and pushing and pulling so it creates spectral dynamics so yes it gives it a "dynamic feel" - I say that in quotes because it's up for interpretation and these plugins won't affect the overall dynamics
If you don't know what's going on I'll explain. Sound engineers started making the loud parts quieter and the quieter parts louder so that everything is equal volume. Once everything is equallly balanced they turn everything up to make the song "louder". In reality different instruments should be at different volumes as they naturally would be in real life.
Nice explanation! You would prefer the older version then, right?
Just making sure I understood what you said
@@eine_v I prefer the older version personally.
@@ADSaaron Me too but everyone is entitled to their opinion, however if most people out there don't care/can't tell the difference (or both) then it would make sense to let the music have its natural dynamics no?
It is basically the Audacity functions of Equalize and Amplify, correct?
Did I just time travel ? Why did I found this on 2018 ?
Pierce To Remember Infant Chelsea Ocean Ate Horizon FIND* not found
Pierce To Remember Infant Chelsea Ocean Ate Horizon same
The algorithm only just caught up to 2008
I was only 2 in 2008 so... mum still made me listen to this though. Glad she did!
get off youtube @angel miller
This video is older to us now than that song was to the uploader at the time
Oh, my friend, it actually got so much worse than a little compression as time went on.
They do that will all rock music that is “remastered” even though they just make the bass and drums sound louder
yup. Remasters are usually garbage
honestly i feel like if all the members are alive, able & willing, then they should just re-record the record.
@@dysperdotted nobody likes that. it's been done in the past and labeled as a "remaster" and considered awful. People always like the originals more
@@SmallPersonRoo i’ve never heard of any records that do do that before, but the way you describe them makes them sound like they could barely play their instruments in time.
@@dysperdotted an example would be Rust in Peace (2004 Remaster). People just don’t like the re-recording because they prefer the original tunes. Of course, there are people who prefer the newer ones, but usually it’s just better to leave the music the way it should be
im 10 years late.
lilkhalim Oh man 10 years im feeling old everytime i saw '2008' im thinking "oh it was just a couple of years ago" and then i realise
Me too lmao this randomly appeared in my recommended
same here lol
me too lol
me
laughed as soon as I saw that fat soundwave on the thumbnail lmao
good vid
If this got recommended to you on 2021 you're a legend
I expected extreme Bass Boosting
_....what do you mean this vid is from 2008_
I MADE THE 666TH LIKE OMG
This is literally a decade old. "If it was released today"
RetroRageasaurus me too tf
yeah me too alrdy lowered volume
The video was fucking made in 2008, look at the release date. "Today" to the person that made this WAS 2008.
who else expected a trap remix
I expected a 3edgy5me br00talz "core" version tbh.
Stormborn Björnsson Honestly Same
i expected an 'edm banger'
I was expected big breakdown all over the song
blank I was gonna like your comment but saw it at 666 likes lol
Mixing is always important. It makes or breaks your song.
its crazy how much the waveform looks like the remastered version
*10 yeARS AGO RUclips, 10 YEARS*
Dunno how i or everyone found a 10 year old video it's really odd
Hell yeah! Hot tub time machine is working! Now we can fix the economy.
Jason Pike came here from a steamed hams meme
Jason Pike came here from clairo
what's wrong about that, newold winds never bad
Lmao thought this was a 2017 video. So i was expecting heavier bass and probs rap
same lmao
what the fuck was 2008
but youre in 2018
i was expecting to hear some lil pump
Tennyson Lipscomb yeah but there hasnt been any iconic 2018 defining music yet
Tennyson Lipscomb I'm in 2020
I’ve spent 13 years looking for This and finally I found it
This just randomly appeared in my recommendations and when it says "today", it was 15 years ago
when a video from 2008 leaves commentary on the state of modern music
I mean the loudness war is somewhat subsided. Producers are starting to change back to focusing on sound instead of loud music
When your comment is gonna be one day old too
haha yea wtf
it's still relevant, unfortunately
pablo jams: nah, not all producers and bands understood it yet. some of them start changing back, but there's a lot more to go to finally make the scene at least as decent as it was in early 90s.
'today'
254jerome u dont say
IDLEEEEEEEEEE
the title confused the fuck out of me
Nice profile pic
Idleglance ik i’m here in 2018 like WHAT????
"If SLTS was released today"
**Posted 13 years ago**
Me : oh..
I've been on RUclips since BEFORE this video was released. I don't know why it's been recommended to me now, 13 years later.
Why is this in everyone’s recommended all of the sudden?
It's a mystery
I know right?
Así funcionan las redes neuronales de RUclips.
Many old videos are resurfacing in peoples recommend recently. It was a miracle. RUclips actually fixed something.
ikr
Smells like an old school video appeared in my recommendation
Sirus Blenke What are you doing here futaba?
SethDorito what are any of us doing here?
Dominus Mentis Because we don’t have lifes?
Me 2
This comment is old school.
Didn't see the upload date of this video at first so I was ready for the most ironic meme going
It's been 13 years and this finally got recommended.
I thought this video was upload in 2018
Marcial Caleche haha same and it was actually 10 YEARS AGO. RUclips is drunk
me too
Same lol
Same. Interesting piece of observation from 2008 though.
Same
I thought it was gonna be mumble rap until I noticed it was 2008
yeah same
me too i was expecting a "brrr brrrr" or some shit lmao
Good things it’s not!!
VF7 literally me bro
In 2018, it would be like this:
[Cue lazy electric drum music]
Teen spirit
Teen spirit
Teen spirit
Yeah
[Insert bad autotuned rap here]
Teen spirit
Teen spirit
Teen spirit
Yeah
Teen spirit
Teen spirit
Teen spirit
Yeah
13 years and this finally got recommended
Glad this was recommended to me 13 years later
Dude how the fuck have 10 years passed
Davide Parodi lmao it get faster and faster as you age. It's slowed as a kid because there's so much to see and take in. As you get older, there is less stimuli and time goes very fast
Easily silly it just passed
loose how has 6.5 billions years fly by?
If it were released today it'd be called : Smells Like Teen Lean (ft. Migos, Lil yachty)
Obie Tmuny with justin beiber😒 i hate 2018
Follow me on insta, @__factor
Smells Like Team Ten (ft. Nick Croumpton) (MUST WATCH!!1)
GoNeR **** BORN IN LE WRONG GENERATION
Alex Zurp7 LOL
When I saw the title and thumbnail I assumed this video was made in 2021... time flies
13 flipping years and this just now finds me
10 years ago LUL
Now this is epic.
12 years ago LEL
13
TODAY.
say lul to a dutch person :)
Wtf I though this was going to be a trap beat. Nope a 10 yr old vid.
What is youtube anymore?
Sooooooooo original
J Wightman true
I still mess with rock though
J Wightman I'm only 2 years older wtf
TOO SP00KY LMAO HE IS
Thanks RUclips for recommending me this jewel 13 years later
Ah yes, recommended 13 years later. Thanks RUclips.
10/10 RUclips recommendation algorithm
Everyone here is making comments about how they are 10 years late and I'm just sitting here.... also 10 years late
Hey, isnt the Rihanna s Disturbia very good? Lmao
I guess this just shows that my headphones are worse than I thought.
Thanks youtube, thirteen years, just thirteen years, but now i know how smells should be if was released "today"
So do I also have to wait a decade before my videos get more than 100 views ?
NightFury lmao poor guy
Dam
I subbed to your channel out of Africa. :)
Yes.
@@BoxOfCurryos I somehow got this video recommended again, and saw your comment. I'm happy to tell you I've made it :)
What's up with the algorithm?
Fenix right haha
what the fuck the algorithm does xD
Lol sup
Fenix RUclips is just never good with the recommendation system whatever you call it. Some of my favorite RUclipsrs don't show up in the recommended at all. It's sad
Fenix I was your thousandth like. Congratulations.
why did youtube recommend me this video 13 years later lol
13 years ago we got baited into learning about audio compression
Why is everyone getting this reccomended 10 years later?
It's the end times and we all need to be reminded that some cool shit went down too.
I'm not sure, but I like it.
Me too
RUclips is broken, always recomended old videos
RUclips History Month I guess
Why am I being recommended this just now RUclips
Koro Sensei ! #acrocks!
Koro Sensei Aren't you supposed to be dead?
Koro Sensei loll
13 years later, nothing changed if not for the worse.
the old days of youtube, always the best videos..
3 years later the 20th anniversary edition came out, and did exactly this.
PatateTony35 Unfortunately, yeah. Everything was mastered poorly. The dynamics of the bass and drums arent nearly as good
I've heard it. It sounds lame. The louder you try to play, the lamer it gets. I'm so happy I have the first CD.
I buy 20th anniversary edition, play it, I think WTF!!!
Damian K. Yeah :(
Exactly? The 20th anniversary "remaster" sounds even worser than this.
As “outdated” this title may be, this video’s point is incredibly important regarding sound mixing. It’s especially a problem found in formats like CDs and digital shit like that is a reason why the vinyl revival happened.
One must put great care not to bring loudass compression that ruins the attitude of the audio which, as one critic puts it, “prevents the music from breathing”.
Not actually. Over-compressed songs are a consequence of bad remasters influenced by the 2000's and early 2010's bad mastering techniques.
Excessive dynamic compression has nothing to do with CD or 16-bit (lossless) Digital Audio, since the 16-bit format (which the CD is based on) can cover a wide dynamic range. Extreme dynamic compression is just "2000's music producers bullshit" (and when considering the wide dymamic range of 16-bit PCM audio, in the end it sounds like a paradox).
@@Canal_em_Vazio Agreed. Wide dynamic range has been available for years and pro (and amateur) digital recording studios have been working with 16, 24 and 32 bit depths with sample rates going up to 96 (and even 192) kHz for some time, though many plugins, CPU's and storage would struggle/not work at these higher rates.
Waves plugins, in particular, have been heavily abused in the loudness war - their L1 Ultramaximizer is generally regarded as the primary culprit, making it waay too easy (1-3 clicks) to flatline the entire waveform to virtually 0dB, if you so wish. The big driver to the L1's use is in record/CD stores where the whole war was about making a track/album much louder for the potential purchaser compared to a non-maximized track. Of course, this won't work on radio - their airtime compressors would nullify the L1.
During mixing, throw in the pro studio's 'real' autotune editor - Celemony's Melodyne (does waaay more than adjust note pitches!!), quantize every track, etc etc. Finally, get Simon Cowell to 'sponsor' you, lol, and...well...you get the picture.
Is music currently(!) dead? - no, but we appear to be racing to get there. A generation of youth have already been indoctrinated to accept mimed crap as their listening choice. Way too many comments here don't help that viewpoint, unfortunately.
Audio engineer here. The dynamic range of any track, as well as anything else about the track, depends on what its purpose is.
If it's a recording of a performance of a symphony or something, then sure, don't compress anything, just make sure it's never clipping. But if it's something more like metal breakcore, a genre that basically entirely exists to be as harsh as possible, while still having some kind of rhythm, then lots of compression is definitely something you want.
Digital formats and vinyl have nothing to do with this, by the way. If anything, the progression of technology has allowed for more dynamic range than ever before.
Vinyl made a comeback because of it’s large art and collectability, most new vinyl collectors aren’t really in it for the sound quality
To be fair, you could also compress audio on a vinyl. It all depends on the mastering, that is, if there's any. Most recording studios nowadays like to peg the VU meters on their mixers, hence why a lot of modern music sounds like garbage.
13 years passed and I get recommended now
Seeing “today” and seeing “2008” at the same time is insane. This video was made 15 YEARS AGO
"Today" as of 2008.
Derpy Hooves REEeeeeeee
Damn I miss the good old days of complaining about modern music. Instead now we have to complain about riots and lockdowns
Modern pop music was the best thing to rant about, I remember bowl haircut Justin Bieber being ranted squeeky or something. Also this is one of the recent comments the channel owner's has hearted
I just wanna grill for God's sake
did you forget the 90’s happened
I just want to grill
nah I complain more about music anyway
POV this came up on your recommendations and you click on it thinking it was made in 2021, but you receive whiplash instead👀
It took 13 years now came in recommendation
if it came out today it would be an instrumental because kurt is fucking dead lol
LOOOL
I can stop looking, I just found God.
I'm wheezing so hard jesus christ-
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
thankee bois
why is a video from 2008 being recommended to me now, maybe it's a sign
It's old (awesome) youtube wanting to return to free us from current (meh) youtube?
Håkon T. It's RUclips's algorithm f'ing up
Yeah, a sign of the times
weird af
20 years later this is good bro
It takes 13 years to get in my recommendations
Unfortunately, if Teen Spirit was released in 2008, it probably would not have become the top 10 music changing song it was.
+EmperorTigerstar he probably killed him self not to listen to this generations shit music
After all, Justin Bieber was born a month before Kurt died.
The same night as their last show IIRC.
I love your videos dude! I had no idea you were also a Nirvana fan!
BS
Oh shit the banks just crashed and Heath Ledger died wtf
Dude, have you seen the new Call Of Duty World At War?! I can't wait to play it on my Xbox 360!
Pallum13 newspaper industry just died
mate next year buy bitcoin.. trust me.
Have you guys seen that new Wall E movie it was pretty good
Ever heard of the Iron Man movie and its rumored cinematic universe? I really doubt if Marvel is going to last for a decade and such.
why am i recommended this 13 years later?
I wasn’t even alive when this was posted
That explains how young I am listening to this song
Thanks mom and dad
For turning me in to an old metalhead
I love how the brick walled 'loud' version is actually quieter..
Because the high frequencies get buried under all other. Basically when all frequencies are equally loud it will lower the overall volume because you looee dynamic range.
@@Celatra Yes, this is a thing I’ve learned in marching band, instruments don’t have to play loud to be heard, the just have to fit into the band and the whole thing will seem louder
Today is 2018
Yap lol
NoTcH o_O Yeap
Look the upload date smartass
Lol
And this was uploaded ten years ago. Please pay attention.
Why did I got this recomended 13 years later??
I can't hear a difference but I assume that is because I am not currently a headphone user
Music compression like this is killing music - even 12 years ago when Metallica's "Death Magnetic" came out, an otherwise good album was ruined by over-compression.
Snob
Snob
Snob
@@randomboys1000 @Woodsgump @SquareisEpic It is not snobbish. Listen to death magnetic. The overcompression can make it hard to listen to at times.
@@randomboys1000 I, unlike a snob, prefer to go deaf listening to my music
Hey youtube's algorithm , i have a question : What the fuck ?
nOx1D3 man RUclips, Instagram, and Facebook's algorithm and fuck off...
13 years and this is STILL an issue. Everything is still brickwalled to death.
this video was released just a day after my third birthday, now i am sixteen and i am watching it for the first time in my life. crazy. thirteen years have passed.
2018 crew??
reporting for duty.
Phobic. Yes sir!
No sorry dude, I’m a 2019 dude
Phobic. Here 🙋🏻♂️
here
People in 2008: wow! It kinda does sound like what it would sound like!
People in 2021: it... kinda sounds the same...?
Unfortunately, yes, we are accustomed to shitty over production of music.
@@phillipg1331 It's because everyone is listening to the compressed version, and their shitty phone speakers probably compress it anyways so it sounds the same
@@atablevendetta1429 that's why vinyl will always be the superior listening experience.
@@phillipg1331 Honestly man. I think live will always be the superior listening experience.
@@atablevendetta1429 fair point, indeed.
the loudness war is like trying to breathe but you have the flu and you're just sitting there not being able to breathe through your nose
13 years and this should gotten more views.