How far have CPUs come in 9 years? First vs Newest 6-core CPU...
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- Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2020
- I compare the world's first 6-core CPU to the Newest 6-core CPU to see how well processors age over 9 years.
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980 is actually not a terrible experience almost 10 years later.
I just did CInebench R23 benchmark on my 2700k and got about 3200 MC score where as my 5600x got about 11750.
For games yeah but if you work on your computer in the day and game at night the 980 would probably feel terrible. Pretty sure the difference is big when it comes to compiling big projects.
Though GTX 980 isn't exactly "almost 10"? For example GTX 590 was launched less than 10 years prior your message.
@@kimnice he was talking about the Intel Core i7 - 980
@@bartolomichael Any overclock on that? I have the 2500k at 4Ghz and it's SLOW. Not for gaming, I don't do that, but even in RUclips 4K, or Photoshop and similar. In games where the GPU matters most it might still work, but in other applications you see clearly it's old and outdated...
3:20 Okay, did your AIO just rick rolled me? 😂
Ah yes, ass odyssey. One of my all time favourite conquest games.
That was legitimately funny
to go boldly where no fucker has gone before
My favorite too!
Gap Gaping, such a poet ;)
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Usually you pay double for that kind of action, Timmy Joe!
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Should have just said goatsieng at that point.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff do you purposefully say the names differently? No joke?
3:14 he rickrolled us
Wheres My Phenom X6 XD
@@tobiwonkanogy2975 I'm never gonna give up my Phenom II.
Yeah, do a comparison with a Thuban vs Ryzen 5. I had one of those for 10 years. Lol
Did I just get Rick rolled by an aio cooler
You sure did, that guy gets everywhere lol.
Yeh so did I
Yes. Yes you did.
No this is Patrick
yes
3:17 ... we see what you did there ...
Obvious loss aside, the fact that an old i7 from 2011 still held up amazingly well without much of a bottleneck in 2020 is a feat and a half! Futureproofing at its finest!
I mean it's a flagship processor... and games in 2020 were made taking into account the Jaguar processors from the PS4/XB1. I hope my Ryzen 3100 holds up at 60FPS for 9 years 😊
@@Generationalwealth94 Games in 2013 were made with at least 6 cores in mind.
3100 will probably last to be honest. Make sure it's fed with decent ram and storage.
The bottleneck was the TDP and nearly half of the performance. In the end your paying for it in electricity and low FPS.
@@skorpersYou are lucky if you find games that utilize more than 4 cores/threads at all.
@@Rocky712_ Considering the Xbox 360 had 6 threads, I highly doubt that. The Xbox one had to free up 1 of its cores due to only using 6 at launch. They needed more CPU desperately all throughout launch and games definitely used it. Even CSGO from 2012 could handle 6 threads. TF2 is considered a particularly bad example of games not utilizing CPU but even it has 6 threads, albeit not with an assigned core.
Also more than certain battlefield 1, or maybe even battlefield 4 before it was when 6 core / 12 threads were shown to be more than needed.
Actually, I'm impressed the old CPU did so well. It was about half as fast. I was expecting 30 FPS to like 300 FPS. For 1080p 60 FPS gaming, old CPUs are still relevant.
would pci-e 2 allow a rtx 3080 run at full tilt?
@@raven4k998the cpu wouldn’t anyway
@@18rocksthegames78 meh that just goes to show how pathetic the cpu is not the pci-e on the bright side with the gpu not being pushed that hard it will last longer🤣
@@raven4k998if you're buying a 3080 then you're definitely not buying a 980. Still viable for ultra budget builds (kids first PC vibes)
Maybe fit a 710 or 970. Or an rx470
@@itzwildeyedyou could probably ram an 1080 inside and it would still be viable lol
I remember back in the late 1990s and early 2000s you'd get that same kind of performance jump in 18 months or less.
it's good now for people who want to hold on to their systems longer, and good for people who want to save a bit and get a system that's a few years old. Only people who get brand new cutting edge will end up paying the price, since they could have gotten like 97% for a lot less if they went with a slightly older CPU.
The times when single core was standard and the clock speed went up every year.
That was when the "obvious" tech upgrades that didnt exist yet, didnt exist. Everytime new tech comes out, it becomes harder to get large gaps in performance.
Dont quote me
@@matekochkoch Still is standard lol
"A_s_s Odyssey" Really Dawid? XD
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@@DawidDoesTechStuff What are you trying to tell us dawid? What are you using the youtube money for
@@sufferr2914 the game is ass and there is a lot of ass in game
@@allahgatorsswamp269 lmao
@@sufferr2914 the game does suck compared to other assassins' creed games
5:29 Ass Odyssey XD
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3:17 son of a ...
good one
Damn, that motherboard looks so cool. Why does rgb ruin everything. I wish new motherboard came up with cool designs.
Not as cool but asus did something different with their stuff recently
www.google.com/amp/s/theaxo.com/2020/asus-x-bandai-gundam-themed-wifi-6-router/amp/
Because you can't see much of it even with a glass panel. RGB will illuminate surroundings
I agree, the X58 era had some amazing looking motherboards. 😁
You can turn RGB off, you can't turn off the gun/bullet stylings.
But I am sad those kind of designs are no more.
Well RGB is easy because users can change colors or just turn it off to match their builds, whereas with that specific of a motherboard the company would be selling much much less of it due to it being more niche, like you'd have to have THAT style to get that, whereas with RGB you can get almost anything (its best to match RGB though, like Corsair with Corsair, or Thermaltake with Thermaltake) and just changing the color will match it... If the motherboards could be changed by moving stuff around or removing things it would be pretty cool, but that would require much more R&D to make it work properly, whereas throwing RGB on something is quite simple lol.
5:50 he forgot to change the benchmark name from r6 seige to shadow of the tomb raider LOL
So basically they achieved in a decade what happened in one to two years in the '90s, and have raised prices to boot.
10 years ago Intel's cursed axiom of four cores maximum for mainstream was already living its heydays and would be still for years to come. It was only broken by Ryzen a few years ago. Consumer PC CPUs basically froze in time performance wise for a decade. They only got things like new USB or SATA versions, but that's it. Of course Intel kept developing the process technology, but it brought little benefit to the consumers. Like between Ivy Bridge and Skylake, two i5s I had in the past, the performance grew by about 10%, despite there being two whole Intel CPU generations between those two. It was deplorable and indeed the exact reason why Intel has been facing such problems fighting AMD's Ryzen.
Nothing like that ever happened with GPUs. On the CPU side, AMD became incapable of competing, allowing Intel to leisurely sit on its hands for years. On the GPU side, Nvidia never could afford to relax. On the other hand, Nvidia had a totally new market to conquer as well, the computing one with AI, servers, and supercomputers, so they needed to do a lot of work, nonetheless, regardless of the gaming market.
It's similar to cars. It's much easier to increase a car going 50mph by 30% than it is to increase one going 150mph by 30%. Not just because 30% of 150 is 3x larger either. There's more real world limitations to overcome.
I do know what you mean though. I was mad that Intel kept the world stuck on 4 cores for a decade, but in reality it won't take long to catch up to where we would have been if they didn't. Software still needed to support more threads, and we needed process nodes to catch up. A 16 core 65nm would have been too large to produce and the tdp would be through the roof. I'm glad AMD survived the FX Era.
@@TheCgOrion increasing 150 by its 30% is not 3x (450), but it is 1,3x (150 + 150 x 3/10). Of course there are limitations. These limitations are mostly commercial though - there is no need for power like that in the hands of customer. Games would become obsolete too fast, the drivers would get harder to develop, software would have to be optimized, new architectures would fuck up the existing codes etc. It is just an easy calculation of "Is it really worth it?" And "Wouldn't it be better if we made something shit, but very soon so we don't have to work for another quarter?". I'm surprised people see AMD as some kind of savior, even though it has become worse than Intel. Just look at ryzen 5000 prices. Yes, *CORES*, but also *PRICES*. It is expensive as hell, making the mid-range more high-end than ever, successfully destroying that part of the market on their side. Then you have the Intel with it's I5 10400f, which is much cheaper, and more money efficient solution. Then Intel makes you feel nauseous with it's stock RAM speeds and locked OC. The situation is awful rn. Some say that Intel fighting with AMD will make the prices more competitive, but it is just a misconception. Once AMD eats Intel for dinner, they will rise prices so much, that only the R3 and athlon series will be viable options for the money, because R5 and E7 are gonna be lower high end and higher high end.
@@biedronkowestalkere5069 I'm not sure what I said that made you think I was saying it was 3x (partly because I can't open the "read more" for some reason, but I understand the calculation. It does depend on what you're looking at in this CPU situation ongoing. Let's be honest, the i7 6800K and i7 6900K were way over priced, and I think the 6900K (possibly I'm thinking about the 6950K) hit $1700 just before Zen 1 released, for a 6c/12t and 8c/16ct CPU. The correction Zen 1 made to pricing was so enormous that we are still seeing much better pricing. Plus it's on the mainstream platform. Back then 4c/8t was the top of the mainstream desktop platform. It is definitely climbing now that it isn't contested, but that seems to happen every time one company has the lead. I don't see a savior when it happens. I see the end of a monopoly rule over the consumers. All of them should have a little bit better governing of their practices. Nvidia is absolutely terrible when it comes to this scenario. It's a shame though that AMD decided not to correct the GPU market the same way as they did the CPU market. You can't blame them though. The consumers have been telling these companies that they are willing to pay their asking prices. I think it's a little unfair that people see AMD as the savior for another reason. They expect the company that is battling on two fronts, with far less money in their pockets to take another hit and not cash in on the current market. Ultimately it's the consumers who control pricing, but they'll never figure that out as a whole.
@@biedronkowestalkere5069 pmsl total fail
Thanks for the video!
I'm a older gamer guy and I am still running a I7-980x @ 4.2ghz on the stock air cooler that came with it.
Still hard to believe it cost $1k new back in the day, but it was the best back then. While not in use anymore, I still have the Nvidia GTX 580s I used in SLI.
While the CPU does run everything I play so far. Watching this answered a lot of questions I had and made me feel my age (bones creaking) LOL
I tried the Cinebench test but used the multicore test and got a 4461 which I assume is not that great by today's standards.
if you're talking cinebench r23, the 5600x actually gets around 11000 and some points, so almost 3x that; but the way it performs in games you'd never think it was that much slower in synthetics
Why not upgrade 🤔
@@Moochi4 At the time of two years ago when I commented. It was more a cost issue. Today, I recently did upgrade and got a 16 core Ryzen, 128 gigs of 3600 ram, and a RTX 3090. Loving the frame rate increase lol 😁
@@RenegadeTM glad to hear it im still rocking the rtx 3060 12gb runs everything smooth as butter had a 1650 pc for 2 years or so then i upgraded and rebuilt my hole system mine a 5600x 32gbs of ram and the rtx 3060 12gb
@@Moochi4 Nice! If it was not for the MSI gaming Trio 3090 I found on ebay for $750, and was certified ebay refurbished. I possibly could still be rocking that I-7 980x with a gtx 1080 lol
3:19 Damn you Dawid, this is the second time today!!!
First i got rickrolled by mrwhosetheboss and now you
don't ruin his Rickroll would u....
Holy moly same i just watched mr.whose the boss vid the smartphone is boring 😂
Damn, I thought I was being original. 😂
Literally was JUST thinking about this haha great timing my friend!
I just wanted to stop along and say that you are an absolute legend man. I saw on some other video featuring your channel from about a year back and saw you had a bunch of videos but only got like 200-300 views, even though you put a crazy amount of work into them. Now you are getting more than 100x that! You show us that with enough dedication anyone can become successful. Keeep it up :)
my dad's still using a OC'd 920. those CPU's were beasts back then, and not bad at all today.
I used my overclocked i7 970 @ 4.2Ghz for almost 8 years before upgrading to the i7 8700k @ 5.1Ghz I have now, those old X58 platform compatible CPU's were really good performance and value for how long they lasted, even managed to get a kit of 2133mhz DDR3 memory working on it, though it was kinda unstable and had to run it at 1933mhz for 100% stable results.
I used to overlock my 920 with a hyper 212, but now i use that for my new rig and no way I'm overclocking with a stock Intel cooler lol
increse the performacne by buying 4$ xeon
Dawid: a measly 300 fps
Me sitting there with 30fps on minecraft
yeah, 300 fps with a 3080, it s bad
If that's with rtx 30fps is pretty good!
0.8 FPS with ray tracing on in my potato😂
Well not exactly ray tracing it was a shader mod
@@ayush_k- ah well, as gamers we sometimes have to take what we can get! Plenty of old games to keep you busy! Personally I love old school point and click games so there's always options!
@@Skett Just finished Prince of Persia WW, thinking of trying Just Cause 1
Yeah there are plenty of old games I still enjoy playing. But didn't like WW because it has way more bugs than its prequel Sands of time.But yeah even bugs are fun sometimes.
I'm more surprised that a 9 year old cpu is still perfectly capable. I could honestly pair that with a 1650 super or some other low end budget card and be perfectly content with the experience.
Last time I was this early, I still had in-person learning
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@@DawidDoesTechStuff Yeah it’s been rough.
"16 gigs is enough" google chrome wants to know your location
Good video. Few thoughts :
1) Always OC UnCore (or DRAM/QPI Frequency for ASUS), to 3,2-3,6GHz on LGA 1366.
2) At stock, RAM frequency may be limited to 1333MHz.
You may need to OC it to at least 160MHz BCLK to actually get 1600MHz as available memory clock.
3) LGA 1366 CPUs DO NOT have a PCI-e controller inside, that's one thing X58 chipset does for them.
Your turn of phrase in this video was a delight as always, it really helps set your content apart from the rest! Also instant thumbs up for rickrolling the lot of us 😂
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I just replaced my unlocked i7 920 for a 5600X! :D It has served me very well all of these years but it was time.
oooof a 920?! I could clock my 920 quite high, but nothing could make up for it being an old quad-core, those hex-cores were definitely worth the small upgrade price once they were being dumped on ebay from used servers and workstations
i have a stock clocked i7 2600. i might upgrade to a 10600k sometime in the future, idk
Another interesting comparison would be the intel i7 8700k, a 6 core 12 thread cpu, vs the Ryzen 5 5600x.
My 8700k is gonna hold on to its pants till ddr5 makes its way in the next year or 2. Ryzen is looking really good tho
That's a good point. I'll see if I can get one for a reasonable price. 😁
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I'd love to see it vs the 9700k due to it being on sale
@@JoeMama-hm7xj 9700K? nah, 9900K or 10700K. 9700K is DOA (no hyperthreading).
Except for the fact that the 9700K ended up delivering about 98% of the performance of the 9900K...l hyperthreading not that huge of a deal with 8 cores...@@saricubra2867
OC’ing on x58 is great fun but you have to have incredible patience to get it spot on - I’m still using an i7 990x @ 4.4ghz and I play all the latest titles and it’s kills it. I do have a good gpu as well which obviously helps but it’s still a great cpu. Great vid man! 👍
GPU?
"I’m still using an i7 990x @ 4.4ghz and I play all the latest titles and it’s kills it."
Love the video. Take it to its next logical step. Pair the i7 980 with a top of the line video card of the day vs Ryzen 5600x with a current entry level card. Then tweak both to do 60 FPS and compare graphics quality.
Phenom II X6 was the firstr six core.
Wouldn’t be fair comparison since it has 6 threads
@@cocodanuts3497 But, was the first, not the 980,
Even the court disagreed with that. The customers won the lawsuit against amd's lying to them.
@@kaylaandjimbryant8258 The phenom was not effected by this lawsuit. Phenom actually had 6 FPU's and 6 cores. The fx series was effected by this lawsuit as the 6 core had only 3 FPU's
@@Alobster1 ok so what exactly does that mean? What is a FPU? so I can understand exactly how they lied
I still have an X58 system as a secondary PC. I upgraded the CPU from an i7-950 to the Xeon X5675 (about $20). Granted, I wouldn’t buy/recommend an X58 system to anyone, it is not a great value. But if you can get one for super cheap or already have one it’s worth playing with overclocking.
Good stuff, thanks for the content!
Really enjoy these type of videos.
I do find it amazing though how well the X58 6-cores have held up. They don't seem to really 'struggle' with anything until it comes to the games that heavily utilize AVX instructions.
What games use avx?
@@jamesmcjamesington631 I do.
I just upgraded from i7 980 to an 5800x :D
Nice concept Dawid! Thanks for breaking the mold.
Just finished watching you and Joe talk about who won and who had the hardest time LoL. Both f you are winners for entertaining us. I've been watching both of you for a few months and I was inspired to build my first computer in 20 yrs instead of buying a pre-built. I got an i7-10700K(water-cooled), 32 gig 3200 ram, an Asus Prime z490-P motherboard, a 1TB SSD, a 2gig Seagate hard drive, and a RTX 3070 GPU (I don't game at 4K, just 1080p and sometimes 1440p) in a CoolMaster TD400 case. It wasn't that hard, but it was still a challenge for me LoL.
And i thought old amd phenom II cpus were first at 6 cores
Pretty sure intel beat them to market by a couple of months.
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@@lukasvincourcz7043 bruh y so mad?
@@TheBURBAN111 i'm not mad at all
Great test. I'm running an i7-3930k @4.4Ghz, which is a standard "auto" overclock on the X79 platform, with 32GB of DDR3 RAM @2133MHz (in QUAD channel) - THAT would be a MUCH better comparison as this particular CPU cost aprox. $500 when new.
And here we go guys , David does it again.
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Man, when you were talking about the mobo, you reminded me of the DFI boards of that time period. I loved that aesthetic back then.
Not related to this vid but I just felt the need to say: You tried my boi, you tried. I'm still proud of you.
You could tell old Timmy was still a bit salty about your respective sub counts lol. You're just funnier man plain and simple
I just went from a x5670 @ 4 GHz to a 5900x @ 4.65 / 4.95 GHz. Such a leap in performance! But the x5670 did serve me well for 10 years. The only reason I upgraded was because of the lack of AVX.
My x5675 served me well for almost a decade!
I’m so glad you do this kind of content to be honest not everyone has the mid to high end rigs. Nothing is wrong with gaming with older hardware sometimes it gives you a good experience play some old games don’t like newer hardware
2 yrs after this still is a great video, love it
You know, I'm actually kind of impressed with how it did. Compared to GPUs, anyways.
For x58, you need to do BCLK overclocks. As far as I remember, to get it stable you'd have to downclock the RAM via QPI underclocking or something. So yes 4.4 Ghz on these babies is usually even the lower end.
Just acquired myself a 4K monitor. Nice to see some 4k vids on your channel there Dawid
this video has been very helpful. i have an 8 year old i7 3770 on a gigabyte ga-z77-hd3 motherboard and have been looking to upgrade. its not a bad system but is holding my rtx 2060 back. love the videos and you being a fellow canadian, the prices are right on! keep up the good work and Merry Christmas
Hi! Nice comparsion of CPUs! I like how AMD came back from the dead, or, dare I say it, Ryzen from the ground.
lol
Wasn't the amd phenom was the first 6 core
@@chriswright8074 he said the first commercially easy to get 6 core
@@chriswright8074 it's actually 3 core not 6.. it has 2 modules in one core so now we call it 3core 6threads,AMD even got sued bc of that same story with fx series
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he literally just rick rolled all of us...
Hahahaha so stealth
I knew how this would play out, but I was here for the analogies and metaphors. Once again sir, you did not disappoint.
Nice content Dawid :)
I wonder how much of an impact the spectre/meltdown "fixes" have on that old i7? Might be worth a revisit with them disabled?
In fact i7 980 still usable with good graphics card
Like 16xx series or 2060 with some oc will do great job if u snipe him with few bucks
Yep true
This is fast becoming my favorite tech channel. Would love to see you and randomgaminginhd do a collab
that overclock and triple channel memory really does give it some durability
Ok, that's one of the most badass motherboards I've ever seen. The sniper has a freakin bullet in it.
That's still a pretty decent score!
Around 4 core APUs of today
Your content is fun and entertaining,, keep churning those amazing content. You deserve my like and much more subscriber..👍🏻👍🏻
I'm still running a I5-4670 LGA1150 chipset. It needs to be put to rest. lol, loving your channel though. Been enjoying listening while working.
if frame times are good then its still playable on a 60hz monitor. that 3080 really carried it
No surprises here, a lot of those first generation 6 core CPU's were optimized for creation and business software, not gaming. And hopefully by late 2021 we can laugh about new parts being so hard to buy.
buying back then a 6 core for gaming was a waste of money.
@@mrn234 That's true, and it's sad that there's many new games are not optimized for multi-core cpus.
@@wildbilltexas They are but its creeping in slowly. Alot are optimized for 4 cores then 6 cores and slowly we get games that are optimized for 8 cores. There are some games you get a good bump with an 8 core compared to 4 or 6 cores.
But when you do other stuff on the side like streaming you should get atleast an 8 core cpu.
I recently upgraded from 2600k to 3900X And didn't expect to be impressed beyond work related tasks but honestly had no clue what I was missing with the single thread uplift
Still got 2 x58 systems going strong. A 980x in a rampage iii extreme and a 920 in a gigabyte ex58 ud5. Surprised how much difference the CPU makes in gaming. Thanks for the video.
Is it just me waiting for ryzen 3 CPU’s to have 16 cores in like 10 years 😂
There are ryzen 3 cpus with 16 cores now tho ;)
@@tedarcher9120 wait a minute......
@@tedarcher9120 where? the most you can get is 4c8t
i5 13th gen is rumored to have 12(6+4) cores and 16 threads while i3 13th gen has 4(4+0) cores and 8 threads... Thanks intel
@@viztiz316 12th gen isn’t even out yet….
Wow. That 2010 CPU is holding its own surprisingly well! That must have been an absolute BEAST back when new.
A friend of mine had a 1st-gen i7, first computer she ever built. She was kinda sad to say goodbye to the old rig when she upgraded.
The i7 was an awesome CPU up until Haswell, then Intel really got complacent. Skylake sucked, Coffee Lake was OK, and Rocket Lake seems to be more of the same unless there are any surprises waiting in the wings.
@@LabCat She could have kept it, as a Guest PC or as a dedicated server. lol but yeah, Sadly Intel just doesn't seem to have that edge anymore, and now AMD whipped out the secret weapon, Intel's got yet to recover. They also lost Apple (who were a MAJOR partner) so that's not helping either. Right now, Intel is mostly surviving in the laptop/UMPC space, but with Ryzen APUs/SoC's coming around, who knows how long that'll last? Maybe they can pull a rabbit out the hat. Until then, AMD is the way for many.
Good stuff!
BTW props for making a 9 minute 37 second video, speaks volumes for your integrity.
"Ass Oddysey" sounds like a game that I want to play.
It's like "2001 - a space Odyssey" but Greek - but you still get to visit Uranus!
Hahaha!! I actually think it's better than the official title. 😁
@@DawidDoesTechStufflol it does! Especially when used as the title of another genre......
"Dawid tryes to give answeres, for questions that everybody knew the answer for" would be a better channel name.
Bw. I love your vids.
Had the same setup few months ago. Was rocking x58 socket 6 core 12 threads xeons with gtx 1070ti.
To some extent it served me well for like 2 years then i felt so bad performance “bottleneck” in newer games. On top of that tdp was 130W cpu alone and while gaming it reached to 550+.
So i changed my setup to ryzen 5 3600 and omg the performance is mind blowing and total system tdp with same gpu was 350W on max load . I got many videos for reference benchmarks incase anywant to check and might help others while upgrading.
Nice I ran one of these, well the Xeon x5670 overclocked to 3.8ghz for years until I got a Ryzen 1700 in 2017 and a 3600 last year. Pretty cool how a decade old cpu is still usable today. Nuts when you can get more modern Xeons for $20
Sarcasm is the language of the intelligent 😎
Dude... Comparing anything to a 5th gen ryzen cpu is dooming it to fail. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the 5600x beats the 10900k in some tasks. Imma go watch the actual vid now, lol
It either beats or ties the i9 in specifically gaming, because productivity workloads do tend to take advantage of 10 cores, except for some isolated cases like Photoshop. It's a great gaming cpu, I have the 5600X and I'm really happy with it
Unless u can actually *buy* the CPU
its 4th gen my dude
5000 series = 3rd gen (Zen 3)
3000 series = 2nd gen (Zen 2)
2000 series = 1.5 gen (Zen+)
1000 series = 1st gen (Zen)
@@ultraviolet2497 I also have the 5600x lol
I was rocking a i7 990 extreme until 3 ish years ago when I upgraded to a 1600x. It was still pushing fine through what I was playing, but it ran pretty hot and i wanted more modern features like NVMe support.
Have a good day dawid
Try running Crysis Remastered and it will cripple both CPUs
It literally feels like the game intentionally ruins performance
Hay I have a quad core CPU from that era and it's in my gaming rig
I still have a computer running an i7-860. It's my kid's computer now (until Christmas) but it does okay in gaming. Certainly no match for new processors but, like the video pointed out, an old CPU ages more gracefully than an equally old GPU. Great? No. Playable? Sure.
@@SyntaxTurtle You summarized the video so well. 😁
@@SyntaxTurtle If you had the 2600K instead of the 860, then still good for gaming.
@@saricubra2867 im using the 2400 lol
@@saricubra2867 i have the normal i7 2600. still good
A great comparison & a great video....
Merry Christmas 🎅
I feel that if someone had that cpu for that long of a time its a pretty good performer if you pair it with a less overkill graphics card and as many people don't have 144hz monitors, 60fps is still achievable which I think is kinda impressive
5:54 bruh that’s not r6 siege
That’s a Laura Croft skin in R6 siege lol
2:36 the fans randomly spinning, somehow makes me laugh
My main rig is actually an X58 machine. It’s a 2009 Mac Pro 5,1. It has what are essentially two of those i7 980s (Xeon X5680). It has 96GB of RAM in triple channel, and a Radeon RX 590. I boot into Windows 11 for games, and I can play anything I’ve thrown at it just fine.
980 + mid tier GPU from that era vs. the comming 5600G with no external GPU would be interesting to see.
I was waiting for this cuz I saw your comment on that won video
Thanks for Rick rolling us
Great video
I still say my best CPU was i7 2600k,it was a beast, absolut beast.4.8 24/7 for years under the some Zalman cooler.Got 5.6 just for CPUZ validation, just crazy CPU
5:52 It's SOTTR, not R6 Siege :)
CSGO OH ALMOST 100 FPS I7 IS GOOD
AND RYZEN 7 JUST SLAPPED 677FPS AT CSGO
I was shocked at the result. I redid it a bunch of times because I thought it had to wrong. Zen 3 is crazy.
Which gen
4GHz on 980X is pretty decent when you are new to overclocking on this platform. Newer gen i7 HEDT for example: 3960x on X79, with quad channel DDR3 running at 1866 or faster, overclocked to over 4GHz would be much closer to the ryzen CPU. I'm still rocking E5-1660 6 core at. 4.3 GHz 24/7 stable and it's awesome. I had similar CPU to 980X - X5650 about 5 years ago and at 4Ghz it was good enough for everything too.
I used a i7 920 up until 2017, originally I had it with a 650ti then later on had a 1060. Never knew what bottlenecks were.
Don't insult my GTX 580, a dumpster fire is the last thing I'd call it. Good luck finding a faster GPU for £20
I am still using my i7-980x @4.2ghz after 10 years. Will finally upgrade after DDR5 comes out. I can't believe it but I have managed to skip DDR4 completely !!! lol
I went from A i7 3770 to 5800X3D and it's night an day , Same with coming from a 1060 6gb to A RTX4070 is a pretty crazy jump , Like 60hz and jumping into 360hz !
Thanks for RICK ROLLING US ! Now that song's stuck in my head , Dang ADHD kicking in again .
Would be interesting to see the same tests with as mid-range gpu, like an rtx-2060 or rx 5600. I'm guessing the gap really narrows down in that case.