Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 New Details - Plus New Content for MSFS 2020
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- New details for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 were revealed as a part of the latest developer Q&A. Plus Microsoft also discussed the next updates of MSFS2020.
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One thing they could do in the current sim is improve the night lighting on the photogrammetry buildings in some way. They look dreadful currently. Many places you fly towards the center of a city at night and it's just a black abyss until you're practically on top of the geometry when some tiny little gridded light splotches appear.
Night lighting could be improved for sure.
Absolutely right. Photogrammetry in general, I’d love to see some big improvements too (along with just more coverage). Night lighting and building lights are a big part that needs to be reworked.
yea, playing this game on night lighting during the daytime is dead-on relaxin' even doe it can be a little hard to discover.
I’d love for them to do more and better discovery flights. Some discoveries feel empty and don’t have a lot to them. They could also put places like Boston, Dubai, Hong Kong, and Cape Horn.
After four years I feel I'm still playing a beta game. There is something strange with FS2020...
I have the same feel for 3rd party softwares. For example, PMDG couldn't deliver 777, 747...737 seems not totally finished.
You are spot on, 737 should have been a default aircraft straight up. There just seems to be so many bugs in the airliners, especially from cold and dark.
Mfs2020 is beta for 2024. Just like windows 8
An example of this is KMCF in Florida. The 3D approach lights do not line up with the photogrammetry on the ground they are just slightly to the right of the ground imagery so they are almost in the trees and the runway too, is slightly to the right and as are the taxi ways.
Backwards compatibility is a big deal, good on them for that. I imagine it will put to bed a lot of the discontent about releasing a new version so soon.
This is not a new thing. The newer versions of flight sim have ALWAYS been backwards compatible with at least the previous version and often the previous 2 versions and with some rework the previous 3 versions. In fact there has been recently more FSX planes that have been brought forward into MSFS, and they may not have clickable cockpits but they are still very fun to fly.
They mentioned that around the first announcement, and as if they were going to do any different, it’s been done many times before in Flight Simulator’s history, there’s no need for the “good on them” here.
Now if they actually deal with the new sim a hell of a lot better than they did the current one, that would certainly deserve it, but there’s fat chance of that.
i like how detailed they're possibly trying to develop an ending, even doe Flight Simulator don't have those high-tech finales.
So their update is _"We gotta lotta new data coming but we wont say what"._
Sounds kinda like Q&A#1 way back in 2020 when they said _"We definitely wanna improve ATC but we wont say how"._ What we got was 'Goodbye' added to handoffs.
😂
Also got a bunch of ATIS removed from various airports that I know had ATIS.
ITS NOVEMBER 19TH 2024 MARK YOUR CALENDARS
Add weapons and boom : Combat Flight Sim 2024 💰💰💰
200Tb? Rookie numbers!
Is it really tb?
@@Jacobean777 It's a global map so yes.
it really is. I expect petabytes these days.
If backwards compatibility is going to be that smooth then it shouldn't take too long for them to release the new gameplay types as plugins for the old game. Like the racing and Dune stuff and whatnot. Even if it's just a challenge that would still be fun enough to entice a sale or two for the new game, right? :p
I think the procedural generation for buildings could be improved, for both photogammetry buildings and default buildings. They're still not bad regardless. Vegetation could use more color variety. Performance and better physics will be welcome.
Sure you don't mean Petabytes, Terabytes is a lot but I am sure MS said 2 Petabytes which is a whole lot more....
Going to be interesting, what details Microsoft are holding back . Good on them for backwards compatibility, but am guessing theres gonna be reasons to get the new sim other than better data
A10 Thunderbird 😂 Thunderbolt dude ❤
I hope that thanks to AI, it will be possible to make an open-world game on the digital twin of the planet.
What's the airfield at the 1:40 mark? Gorgeous shot
(BIIS) Ísafjörður Airport in Iceland
Wonder if my 2gb vram will cope lol.
I'm disappointed there is no Bell 407 or TBM aircraft.
4090 will be a good purchase for MSFS24
Is this Ísafjörður airport in Iceland at the beginning of the video? Nice!
Night lighting in default airports eh
I was really hoping they'd implement some proc gen system for area that are never goong to get better arial data like, well the entire Southern Hemisphere basically. But it sounds like it's just going to be more of the same, European cities getting a few extra millimeters of indiscernable detail.
as someone who is as far away from the pulse as can be humanly possible; what is going to be the difference between MSFS 2020 and 2024? can anyone link me a change log or something?
No difference, just gimmicks.
I'd love to buy MSFS, but all the different editions and years are so confusing, I'm not sure what I'd be getting.
Great content mate
Was that the Ingleby Incline you were following there on your b-roll footage? Looked a lot like it - and the Cleveland Way if I'm not mistaken.
Good catch, that's exactly where it was. I live quite nearby to there and often walk along it.
@@ObsidianAnt Lovely part of the country. I too used to live round there - once you've ridden the incline on a mountain bike a few times, you can recognise it even from 1000 ft 😂⛰️🚲
Gods country
This sim is just all about visuals, visuals, visuals and visuals again! A sim should be more than that please (physics, flight and ground models, precipitations and their impact on runways, windshield, etc). Asobo is worth more than that.
Thtat's why we fly X-Plane
Come on 5090 and the 9800X3D as that much power is going to be needed for this sim also.
No, it will not. MSFS shipped only needing a 20 series card, and we're in the 40series now, so I at most I would see a 30series being the base and a 4080 being the recommended. I have a 4070 Super and run MSFS on Ultra settings, so no, a 50series card is not going to be needed.
@@ImpendingJoker That's odd a 4090 struggles with it already. This game is mainly enjoyable in 4K and 6K. I use A 32-in monitor so 1440p is an absolute joke. VR is also a joke with anything less than a 4090 and still somewhat of a joke with a 4090. I like to enjoy the full potential this sim has to offer.
@@jamesm568 i run an hp reverb g2 with my 3080ti and get between 60-80 fps without stutters so it is possible.
@@Tuhoeterra A 3080TI can about give you the full visual eye candy this sim has to offer in 1440p But may struggle in some areas in 4K as I know the 3090 did.
@@jamesm568 Sounds like a you issue. As I said, I only have a 4070 Super, and I run it 4k with no issues for hours on end with little to no stuttering even in places where I have downloaded 3rd party scenery. You can see it for yourself on my streams. I stream in 4k around the state of Florida in and out of the Tampa area primarily.
Wow so the new terrain data will be shared with FS20 as well - now thats cool and it means that for some of us there wont be a tearing hurry to get the new one (unless we want missions). I'll wait for quite a while before jumping ship. Great video as always thank you!
its available now.
Sounds great except they don't name the regions...What is lacking in the current sim is Far East data - As i live in NZ, I fly mostly in my home territory then Australia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines, Korea, Japan , Thailand and China and of course North America - apart from Japan and North America , NZ and Australia, i find the rest of the scenery severely lacking in realistic landscapes
A lot of that data (notably Russia, Ukraine, Korea, Vietnam, China, and basically the entirety of the Middle East) is most likely politically restricted. Since Microsoft is tying into Bing Maps and Google Earth to generate terrain, there’s a lot in those regions that those governments want to hide.
All I want is the native ability to switch avionics. Seems like a basic sim feature that should already be supported.
If 2024 brings a meaningful improvement in frame rates (hey, stop laughing!) and improvements in the realism of aircraft handling and atmospheric elements I’ll be happy to buy an updated version. Better terrain and scenery is always nice, but personally I don’t care about the more game-y aspects they’re adding but I’d bet a lot of people will have a lot of fun!
I remember in the past every time a new version of FS was released, you knew you had to invest in new hardware. No way we are getting better visual, physics for free. 😁
i just want them to add multi core support, msfs being dependant in single core performance is honestly a worse offender than any store deals, or sketchy planes
Can't they just remove the name Maverick out of the DLC, and sell it.
I wouldn't be buying a pilot. I be buying the craft and missions.
By DC Designs...*sigh* That means that A-10 is going to be utter crap and the H-125 I hope they fix the tail rotor animation before release as in the trailer it rotates backwards.
dammit the one jet i wanted to fly, the DarkStar, is coming off the store.
so my question now is, if I buy this version of MSFS, will I still need to buy MSFS 2024?
the answer will determine whether I buy now or when 2024 comes out
IIRC Yes, 2024 will be a separate product, so it's better to wait for it rather than buy 2020 if you didn't do it by now.
We don't know if people who buy 2020 close to the release of 2024 will get any discount, but they have said it'll be full priced. It's not merely a DLC or anything, it's considered a new product.
see if you can get the DLC using gamepass and commit to a proper purchase later.
@@090giver090 thanks, you're all legends. MS just makes it sound like 2024 will be a massive nonseparate update to 2020 but I still want the Darkstar. on the other hand, I do want to wait for 2024 to come out to actually buy a new flightsim
I have owned every version of MSFS since the first release (FS1) and currently have FS-X. I also have the first version of X-Plane, which I've never played because my PC was too slow. I still have several versions of MSFS including the original packaging. Now I have a fast PC, I loaded X-Plane, but the setup - controls etc. seems way too burdensome and maybe FS 2024 is a better option!
My Question: I don't know anything about 'Steam' and "Game Pass' etc., but want to buy a really good, realistic flight sim with good graphics as a stand-alone Sim (Not online). Twice I have almost purchased the 2020 Premium Deluxe ($120) but stop when I know I have to spend hours downloading it and am not sure if I'm wasting my time.
Should I just sit with FS-X and wait for the 2024 version, or would the offer of 2020 40th Aniv. be worthwhile?
If you don't know what Steam or GamePass are and configuration is too much of a chore for you, perhaps Flight Sim has passed you by. If you're still enjoying the now 18 plus year old FSX, I'd say stick with that.
@@tdchewy Believe it or not, I wanted some wisdom. I don't LIVE for FS', I have a busy life and simply want to buy a Sim that is set-up to fly like the older Sims! And, why should I have to understand Steam and Game-pass to enjoy a FlightSim? Many people on this website are pilots like myself, but choose to get as close to realism as they can. I'm a retired Medical Imaging Engineer with plenty of experience in technical stuff, but not the knowledge of terms, product names and jargon used today that, unless you are keeping up with all the modern trends and technology, quickly change and are updated. Many new 'things' that you (may) know about will disappear after 10 years and be replaced by the same thing, but a different name eg. "Blue-ray" is simply Bandwidth. I used to configure X-Ray, MRI and CT, U/S etc. but X-Plane needs many controls configured, and for the life of me I cannot understand why they couldn't place a default config and let users modify it if they wanted. Good luck with your narrow-minded life!
Is there a release date yet?
Yes
Wow, if they are removing the Top Gun DLC that probably means the Ornithopter will probably be removed as well at some point. I haven't had the opportunity to purchase MSFS but was hoping to eventually, but knowing the F-14 won't last I will be avoiding it and sticking to DCS.
Wasn't the F-14 made by Heatblur?
@@festersmith8352 yip and IFE who partnered with HB are looking to support the tomcat in MSFS 2024 pending the results of the SDK tests.
The point is when will it release..... These are speculations at best till we actually get our hands on it .....i hope it doesn't become msfs2025...
What is the airport that you are flying out of in the first couple of minutes?
Ísafjörður (BIIS)
They need to update the default maps
So why do we need the 2024 version?
Because, instead of bolting a scenery simulator onto FSX without thinking through how traffic is going to work if it's live and completely trashing ATC.....this new one is actually going to be a new game that they've thought through properly. Oh I hope to God they've thought it through properly....
Also seeing horizon through mountains is pretty immersion-breaking
@@swoop1352 If you think this, you haven't played fs2020 the last 4 years.
@@brentcalaway Well, we will see if they fix this. They were able to "minimize" it with updates recently, but in some of the trailers for 2024, it's still there. Never bothered me, but i play 1080p. Release date is 5 months away, and still NOT a lot of info about 2024... Don't get your expectations too high...from past experience, even 4 years later with lots of updates, 2020 still has bugs and warts.
Better physics and better performance
Praying for a PS5 release
better be FS2025 if it to be released like last quarter of 2024
Langley airport in BC, Canada currently has a new tower, south, as well as the old non existing tower, north side. If you have the alpha hub, can you delete the north tower pkease❤😅😅
I hope they add a freaking damage model!!! Idk how to explain it but the fact it doesn’t really have a real damage model completely ruins this sim for me. It’s the only reason why I choose xplane12 over this. I know they can do it, war thunder and DCS damage models are both decent examples
How would a damage model help the game when you get a brand new aircraft every time you play?
We will see the new FS2024 session for a DLC on 11/19/24
Msfs 2024 When?
19th November
Lot of studdering throughout your video?
Allowing simmers to update the map with world hub, kind of sounds like when the uk councils made bin men soft and got us to separate rubbish so that the government can then sell and make money of the work that you have done even though you paid your taxes to cover such tasks. Other than that i am so excited for this title!
200 tb? Not gb?
200TB but that means on their side. We won't have to download 200TB... it's pretty obvious
Does anyone think that MSFS was originally a PC simulator slowly adapted to run on a console. But from all I’ve seen and read FS 2024 looks to be a console GAME first and foremost that will also be available for the PC.
My house and highschool are at the correct locations but they look weird and unrecognizable! I guess that's because, *sadly, they are not important monuments!* 😔😣☹️
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What they are calling FS2024 should be a patch for FS2020, after all it was Asobo's lack of common sense and foresight to keep it running on one processor in this day and age of multi processor PCs. Sort of what we used to call ...................................... lame.
Sound is poor and a fair bit of stutter on this vid Ant.
Thanks. I will fix it for the next one.
Really? I did not find the quality to be different from what we're used to. You sure it's not on your end? I'm a bit surprised by your comment, bad audio quality is usually hard to not notice.
@@Andrei5656 I didn't notice anything different, either. Certainly not stuttering or poor sound.
I don't seem to have any issues with sound whatsoever. Watching in 4K.
Why are they still using Bing Data instead of Google maps !!! The quality is better and the photos are more recent.
You know Bing is owned by Microsoft, right?
Brother have you looked at who is financing the game, by any chance?
@@peaceanquiet4528 anyways they Better improve their maps that’s why nobody is using it the same as google maps.
There's a mod to change that, cheers
ITS NOVEMBER 19TH 2024 MARK YOUR CALENDARS
How has the flight model improved vs XPlane 12?
Yep. MSFS 2024 has overhauled suspension physics and ground-handling. Which is the major downside of the MSFS flight model. This improvement will also come to MSFS
@@funkyschnitzel Clearly you have never flown a real c172. The default c172 in xp12 likes to slam the rwy.
The one I fly irl doesn’t do that. Ground effect is better in msfs.
The 172 likes to float in msfs. The real plane does the same exact thing.
I only fly the 172 irl with about 70hrs. In terms of landing it’s more realistic in MSFS. The comment above is correct. The 172 will float in GE.
I can’t say the same for the other planes.
ITS NOVEMBER 19TH 2024 MARK YOUR CALENDARS
Interesting. More than anything I really hope to see the the atmosphere of airports and aviation improved upon and made more realistic. What do I mean by that? Well, for anyone who’s a pilot, enthusiast, industry worker etc; You could tell the Asobo devs didn’t have a lot of experience and time amongst the industry and culture by how MSFS began. A lot of the aircraft they chose to include were very exotic and hardly ever seen in real world aviation circles. The paint schemes (liveries) they chose and the even the generic ai aircraft they made to populate the spaces were atrocious. It seemed to lack passion in those areas because any aviation enthusiast would tell you that whatever is more life-like and accurate IS what’s cool. It matters to the buffer and distinction between “flying game” and “flight simulator”. I really hope to see things like taxiways, ramps, thresholds, FBO’s, terminals and gateways, airport perimeter fencing and their transitions into photogrammetry and especially ground and air traffic greatly improved upon. Speaking just for myself, I think the greatest thing about being a pilot and flying is being able to observe our world from above. It’s truly euphoric. That absolutely can be translated into the sim, but these details have to be convincing. Cars, highways, road signs and how they differ between countries and regions, power lines, trees, etc. These things can really bring the world to life if done right. The job of high fidelity aircraft and scenery has largely had to have been fixed and submitted by 3rd party devs in payware addons. That’s great, but I hope Asobo really pour energy into the framework so these developers can better improve the world. I’d love to see photogrammetry reworked with more coverage and the transitional areas between auto/photo improved so the difference isn’t as jarring. I’d love to se the framework for flight models fixed so that helicopters can really be developed. The current offerings/models are quite poor when compared to their real life counterparts. What I mean is, they don’t feel and fly at all the way helicopters do IRL where as fixed wing addons like the A2A commanche, Cessna 414AW, Maddog, Fenix A320, and the new B60 Duke feel absolutely fantastic and very realistic in their behavior.
It’s exciting and I am very much rooting for them, I just hope they lean towards realism/simulation and modifiable framework and less towards tropey-game elements.
Very good update. Thanks for your hard work. Looking forward to many more updates.
Flying around the actual globe is cools an all, but when are going to get to drive the globe? Where's the game where I can take control of an overland vehicle and drive real exotic mountain trails?
watch out for "outerra world sandbox" or also allready availabe "outerra anteworld tech demo" a earth simulator in wich you can sail, drive, fly, walk. all in first person and all without changing aircraft or cutscene. you just spawn the vehiclesnin an go.
I wonder if they want us to buy the "premium" edition again to access the same aircraft in both sims.
Most likely, yes.
I don't think you will. Regardless. It's been 5 years since the trailer came out for MSFS 2020 and I don't mind throwing money their way for developing a quantum leap in flight simulation.
No. In the past planes that were added in official Expansions came out for free with later versions. Take the 40th Anniversary edition of MSFS, they released a LOT of planes that had come out with FS2004 and FSX, and we got the Maverick DLC for free that was similar to addons in the FSX: Acceleration expansion. So, no, if you already have the premium edition I don't think you'll have to buy it again to get access to your current hangar of aircraft, however, it is more likely that a new "premium" version will have aircraft that are not part of the current version of the sim.
@@ImpendingJoker i have a feeling that the twin otter will be in an expansion package.
@@CAL1MBO only if it will be leaps better than 2020
I just hope they improve aircraft physics and make aircraft behave like real aircraft.
You need to play DCS if you want something like that. MSFS just doesn't come close. The fact they're coming out with the A-10 is laughable when I think of how it will compare to the A-10c in DCS. (I fly that every day.) There's just no way they can match it. Not to mention to accurately model all of the aircraft systems, which DCS does.
@@JustinOhio i thought the same thing when I saw the A-10. it will be like an RC toy
Yes, physics for all things (ground, water, and flight) will be made more realistic.
5:50 Nice. France. 🤣
FS2024 sounds like it could be a DLC coming with a big game update instead of a new full priced game.
MUCH more work went into this update than into, say, PMDGs dodgy customer support, captain scams awful products, any of the shovelware military planes, etc. people pay 3 figure prices for all of those things. why should microsoft be working beyond the original scope of the game for free?
I think only Inibuilds, Fenix, Heatblur and PMDG make good aircraft. Rest is shovelware trash
And I also hear Asobo are working on a flying pig. They want their £60 again and are probably regretting not making MSFS subscription only.
@@CAL1MBO black square? A2a? Flying irons?? Just flight? Hype performance? Cowan simulations??
Totally agree.
Putting some of the launch aircraft in Corenado's hands basically tells me they still don't care about simulation depth :(
But they will look very good.
Not every plane has to be study level. That would take a lot of fun out of it for casual gamers. I believe some people get frustrated when a plane they love doesn't get the study level treatment.
Look at DCS and how slowly planes get released as they aim for ultimate realism.
I have a couple Carenado aircraft and I gotta say, the 182 has some great flight physics; not to mention it looks great and the avionics are on point.
They deserve a little more credit I reckon. They'll do a good job.
it's called giving broader support, man people just forget they are deep in with inibuilds, and that good will "burns" because they get more partners for more planes.
Will FS 2024 be a Beta like FS 2020? I paid $130 for a Beta back in August 2020. Yes FS 2020 has become pretty darn good since. I will wait a year or so before I purchase FS 2024.
Xbox is holding sim back. The proof of this is SU15. They had great improvements and then they had to go back due to incompatibility with Xbox. And this is the major issue with msfs2024
Hate to be negative, but it’s almost hard for me to get excited about 2024 when the xbox version of 2020 has continually got worse over time and not better. God some days I wish I could blow $2000 on a PC for MSFS.
While I got a beefy rig for VR (DCS and MSFS) I often play on my Rog Ally with absolutely ok performance in 1080p. That thing is dirt cheap, it doesn’t have to be expensive.
It will be a new version every 4 years or so, not fully backwards compatible with just cosmetic upgrades, just to keep the cash flow going...
Once they reach the plateau in sales will start marketing and convincing the community to buy a new version... like now with FS 2024...
You must be new here, the flight simulator games have always been like that. '95, '98, 2000, 2004, X... All the way back to the 80s a new edition came out every year or two. The tech for these games used to advance much faster than now.
All I want is for them to fix the giant trees. It's killed it for me since day 1.
Theres an addon that fixes that. Been available for ages.
@@jag1963 got it last week and it works.
Except you're playing on console, this has been resolved by mods.
I don’t really understand why there’s a whole new “versioned” game, if you will, quite honestly. Why wouldn’t this just be an update to the existing? Or maybe a paid DLC rather as not to short the developers for their hard work.
after they finally fixed the Decathlon achievement (or at least provided a way of completing it) I'm now on MSFS hiatus until 2024 comes out. I'm getting a bit worried however that that will be this year. We are 6 months into the year and updates on MSFS have been very scarce to say the least. I expected some more flashy updates akin to the announcement trailer to build some hype but so far it's been quiet. I don't expect them to just release it with a month's notice without having run a proper PR campaign leading up to it. Going by that I think that realistically the earliest would be an October/November release for the Christmas season ... at which point, why not call it MSFS 2025. Well, it will get released at some point ... until then there is still Vermintide 2 and Farming Simulator 22 😂
Why would anyone want this instead of a good VR experience?
what's the airport at 1:45?
I don’t think people understand that this is an entirely new engine. It is not an update to 2020
lol, that’s funny dude. 😂
Stop the FUD. It is NOT.
It looks 7 out of 10