Gotway RS High Speed | First Impressions and Range Test!
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2020
- Ian takes out the brand new Gotway RS High Speed and takes it for a ride and does the real world range test.
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22/09/2020 Edit: The footplates are slightly longer than the Msuper Pro versions (approx 0.75")
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Can you please review RS High Torque and compare it to RS High Speed regarding to range and offroad riding?
As always I appreciate your down to earth, level headed reviews.
Cheers dude.
Oh yeah! Been waiting for this 😁
I’m sure they see it as their signature design, but boy could they do with a re-fresh.
Steve Hargreaves yea I really don’t like the design of any of the msuper series either... if they did a redesign and made it more modern looking I might actually get one.
Idk it's my first wheel the msuper pro 2500 torque and I love the crap out of it. The case is gonna take a beating regardless and I customize the crap out of my own side pads so no matter what I ride it's going to look like an abomination when it's done but ride like it's a high end factory upgrade
As always great review and always a note on safety. Thanks Ian.🇺🇸🇬🇧👍
Thanks 👍
Just pre-ordered "high-torque" version! Can't wait to ride it!
Hope you enjoy it!
Got way always come out with a tonne of stuff... they’re getting considerably (& dangerously) faster, too. The competition is also speedily intensifying now. Bright future ahead (unless the government does something radical & dumb)!
I refer to my MSX as the “small wheel” now. Remarkable functionality for the size.
Incredible how things have changed!
Tempted now that GW have the lift switch in the handle 🤔. Thanks Ian!👍😎
Cheers Rob.
Great review !!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
I was almost sold on the Veteran Sherman until I saw this and you mentioned the better torque. I am a heavier person and have read that I need a high torque / well cooled wheel to accommodate the extra load / heat generated on the wheel for me to go a medium speed. I have been thinking the Veteran Sherman would be a good wheel for me but I also have understood that a heavy wheel like the Sherman is very difficult to learn with for beginners because it is hard to control such weight. Do you have any suggestions? Would the RS be better for me? Looking for mostly street commuting, may run into a little gravel or cobblestones on occasion but not regularly.
Loving the music on your video
Cheers!
Hi, from where is your rs sucking air into the motherboard? I have some issues with overheating and I am wondering if is my fan placed reversed. Its sucking air from the back and blowing it out from the front. With it its also sucking a ton of dust from rear wheel.
Thank you for reply
Gotway should have kept with the 18650 cells to max out the battery to about 2200Wh. Shout out to David from NYC. that range at this point in time is unacceptable. Thanks for the review
what was the range?
@@chucklesreadstoyou no clue but I rode with riders in NYC who had the same 2200Wh wheels and they had tons of range while my 1600Wh MSX needed recharging just to stay above 50%. I'll have to ask them
@@UStride But there is already a version of begode RS 19 2250Wh. Take a look here eucservice.com/en/rs/95-gotway-rs-2000w-1800wh-100v-lg-inr21700m50t-94kmh-bez-obciazenia-110km-zasiegu.html
@@pevprague6137 you're right but I live in the US and the process to get that done is intense
My MSX 100V has the same fre-spin max (55 to 60 (97 kmh) mph). Anyway, I care about "speed margin". Not like I'm going over 35 mph. But to contend with 30 mph traffic I need the speed margin of the 42 mph "last alarm".
Can you explain the difference in riding comfort and riding feeling between RS and KS18XL? Thank you.
How is the torque compared to the MSP torque version?
That's sweet!! Love the lights!!!
I thought the Msuper Pro was 2600w too, just that they made a speed and a torque version...?
2000w is High Speed Msuper Pro and 2500w is Msuper Pro Torque. The RS versions are both 2600w hollow motors.
@@Speedyfeetuk ah I see. The hollow-bore motors sure are a step in the right direction!!
The Gotway wheels are so compact and looks really solid. I do like the carbon look on the shell. So if I understand the forward and back motion is like the old ninebot E+ range. Super responsive?
Yeah with no lean in of the footplates, just super solid (on hard mode)
2:09 keep pressing it for a longer Ian's dance
ha ha brilliant.
Everytime I see these thumbnails pop up in my feed and its not the V11 I scream. Today I was in a library.
Lol 😂
Disappointing range considering I was getting at similar speeds 70 KM range at 95KG bodyweight up to 60KM/h on my cheaper old generation 84V 1600Wh MSX . I was riding in warmer temperature however, but still.
No mudguard! They just don't listen to their customers clearly. Sorry for the negativity but I personally see no reason to buy this wheel whatsoever. GW is lagging behind in the dust of the innovation of the Sherman and V11 with their continued uninspiring suitcase design and minor facelift model which gives less performance. The restricted max speed of the GW app tilt back setting lives on from the MSX days of old.
This will be my next wheel for the high speed. Nothing really beats it besides the obese Sherman...
What do you mean the restricted max speed of the gotway app tilt back setting?
@@momlook6497 when you use the Gotway app, it's restricted. When using something like euc world it's all customizable
@@momlook6497 Max tilt-back speed that one can set in the app is only up to 48Km/h. Meaning you can't set the tilt back to activate at say 54 Km/h
The range difference is due to it being 100v but I do agree with there being a lack of innovation and improvements.
I run EUCworld app (MSP HT) and there I ride without tiltback, but with beeps and vibration to my smartwatch at 55km/h
What you can recommend for me as my first EUC ? Gotway Tesla 3 1554Wh or Gotway RS HT 1800Wh I am 97kg weight and it is gonna be my first euc ever .
hello, another great presentation. little question off topic, or did you manage to buy the skydio 2 which in priroi is unavailable or not readily available
Bought it approx end of last year as we have supported them in the past with the purchase of 2 R1's.
Thanks for video. Looking forward to updates on it. Worth noting that the MSX also does not have that wait period when transitioning between forward and backward. Especially if you have it in hard mode. So that's not exclusive to the RS wheels. Also how come no comparison to the existing MSP :((((? I'm curious what the torque differences feel like compared to it? Especially because the RS torque and RS speed both have 2600 watt motors. So yeah I'm curious what differences you noticed in terms of power? The seat can actually be really nice if you add neoprene and baby foam on top and it adds a little bit of suspension. I just saw your comment that you haven't reviewed the MSP torque.
Its hard to explain, but its more 'on' / 'instant' than any MSX I have ridden.
@@Speedyfeetuk Hey actually I know what you mean. When I rode an MSP it does feel more alive. There's just more power there.
Great review. What would be your ideal trail euc? I've done everything I can with a onehweel offroad and ready to rip singletrack on an euc. I ordered a rs/ht but open to having a backup as I know it may get beat up quick. Thank!
Thanks. For me its the Sherman.
Just got this wheel to learn on. Loving it so far but the beeps at 20 mph are annoying. The seat isn’t secure but some Velcro should help it stay on
Thanks for the video! Do you personally prefer the high speed or the torque version? Thanks In advance for your input!
Have not done a test on the torque version yet, but loving the high speed.
There is an 8A charger available, I'm wondering if you could use the 8A + 3A if you were in a hurry. If you had a 3A & 8A then you should be able to charge at 3A, 8A or 11A as required - charging at 3A whenever you don't need faster.
They recommend 8amp at most, it will technically take 10amp but really, the less the better in terms of life span and safety.
Is there a big difference between the C30 high speed version and the C38 high torque version? If so, what makes? Thanks Mr Speedy
Not tested the C38 yet, we shall see! :)
really should of upped the watt hours to at least 2000wh for this version
What the point of this? As a msp torque version owner. What's the difference ? 100 in the motor and some lights? Seems like my MSP (the last model) is 95% the same
@@treasuredcollectibles IMHO Hollow bore seems to be the biggest upgrade here. It serves 2 functions: 1. No more axle to bend and align and 2. Thicker wire gauge. I think for the latter point it means that, though peak torque may remain the same, sustained torque will be higher.
Hi Ian. I've used GW app for my V3 MSuper. Can Darkness Bot app be used on android? I'm awaiting my MSP so I don't know just yet what to expect. Thanks
IOS only for Darknessbot I believe
@@Speedyfeetuk thanks Ian. I'll have to find another app then thanks
Charging at 10A will reduce battery life, maybe down to 80% after 300 cycles (more if you always charge to 100%), also do not leave EUC's unattended when charging generally, but especially so when charging at these high rates. Finally (then I will get off my horse) , if you have been riding hard the battery's will be hot, not a good time to be subjecting them to a 10A charge.
This is the speed version with the 2600watt motor? So the torque version how many watts is?
Both have 2600w motors :)
7:27 how do u program the drone to follow u ?
It does it all for me, no programming :)
2.6k watt motor on the RS hiogh speed vs 2k on the MSP high speed? does that mean the RS has more torque or something
All things being equal yes it does :)
I'm having problems locating the official gotway app.
It's not in Google store...
The only thing I see is a German app last updated 5 years ago.
Where do I find the real thing?
See: electricpeople.org/post/new-gotway-begode-app-out-602a77a06307c01ccf1e6634
Yeap I like the pro .
the dance move at 2:09 is hilarious
Thats my best dancing ha ha
@@Speedyfeetuk your fans want to see more! The copyright holders will understand =]
How much time it takes to charge with the 3A charger?
6 hours like Nikola and msp
I'm new to EUCs after riding Onewheels and deciding between teh RS High speed and high torque & like off road as much as street- if you can't set tilt back faster than 30mph why have a wheel that can go to 40mph? Can you set tilt back at a faster speed in EUC World app instead?I may as well get the slower RS Torque and have more fun off road if can't set to higher speed..
Oh no, you can use its full potential, its just that tilt back is only available up to that point, you can turn it off and then get that full speed and rely on the alarm.
@@Speedyfeetuk OK- got it- thanks for clarifying- at around 90kg weight could I still enjoy most off roading and hills still with the RS High speed as much as street or better to get the high torque and sacrifice the higher top speed of the High speed? Is your RS high torque video review coming soon? Thanks again
Does the HS version have ANY issues offroad. Up hill?
Not that I have found so far!
Just saw everyones pick for best euc 2020 and would like to know yours? thanks
Sherman.
What about the EX and Monster Pro? Will they be reviewed soon?
Not produced yet 😎
@@Speedyfeetuk Gotway has a strange way of promoting their products 🤔
I remember hearing there was a 3rd company bringing out a suspension wheel but can’t remember who, is there any news on it please?
Not sure on that, but Gotway will be, with the ex
That is the third wheel your thinking of.. gotway
Veteran Sherman
I was expecting more from Gotway. Does Gotway know about the V11 and Sherman pushing the tech envelope? The only wheel that I am looking forward from Gotway is the Monster Pro. That and the Nikola are Gotway’s only go to wheels. Many thanks Ian
Got way have the EX and the Monster Pro coming out. Just depends what you are looking for in a wheel I guess. The 2600w hollow motor is something else, and so far its a brilliant ride. Actually interested in what the Torque version offers over this HS version as they have the same motor and same 100v output.
So the high speed version has a 2600w motor? GotWay RS High Speed
Both Torque and High Speed have 2600w motors.
Hi Ian
Can you give me two recommendations for a first wheel thanks
Take a look here: electricpeople.org/post/which-electric-unicycle-is-best-for-me-5e8cb38260242b53ae7229fb
what was the range result?
found it: @15:00 30 miles at 27 to 30 miles per hour..
Mate I need to ask are these legal to use in the uk, as i wanna get one for to and from work
Illegal on UK roads and in public places but ride sensible and considerately and 99% of Police officers will leave you alone.
@@parapilot09 amazing im guessing side walks will be ok, i wanna get a small one like the nightbot one s2 from segway what do you recommend
@KnightLife Join Electric Unicycle dot org Facebook group for opinions. Much depends on how far you have to commute. If you want small and short range Mten3 by Gotway.
@@parapilot09 thanks mate
@@KnightLifeVlogs Ninebot is pulling out of the EUC world and the S2 is a very dated wheel now
Its motor bearings didn't chew themselves up after 200 miles?
No its all good, see latest videos.
Can someone give some info, why my MSP driving only 35 km/h before starts to beeping any ideas how to make it stop and start beeping only on speed i set it in EUC World App like 45km/h using Android Note 10 have no idea if its something do to with phone or software.Did Try Gotway app but its not working like i must i guess.Any Help will do thanks.
turn off 1st and 2nd alarm set tilt back at desire speed to be safe and happy and safe riding
Battery level gauge?
Ive watched lots of reviews, nothing about battery level.
At least you mentioned tilt back.
Not sure why cheap wheel have working tiltback code but the more i pay the less coders worked on it.
Im a bit torn cause mý z10 tiltback saves my life every ride.
Even latest wheels dont work as well. Wtf.
Even a sherman with tiltback on aint faster than a moded z10.
Why has comunity not pitched in to hire a competant coder.
There seems to have been no progress in my opinion.
Z10 has battery gauge.
Dam i had my finger over the buy rs19 button but other than a bit more battery im trying hard to see the higher price being worth it.
Salut est ce une roue fiable ? Problème de roulement ? Roue encore en test commerciale ?
I have done almost 600km so far no issues - video will be in approx a week ish
You mention Ian, if you fell off yhe wheel just carry on at speed, yes dangerous, isnt there a safety feature if you fell off that there wouldnt be any pressure on the pedals, therefore the wheel could cut off or brake?
No they cannot distinguish, if the weight it already forward it will keep going.
How does the torque compare to the msp torque?
THIS!
It's okay that Ian don't want to go for top speed, but at least mention what the 600 more watts and the new motor does for accelleration and torque : /
Not reviewed the torque version yet so unable to compare.
@@Speedyfeetuk thanks for the speedy reply 😉 I'm referring to the older MSP editions not the RS torque. Or have you not reviewed/rid them either?
Sai Ngo correct, not reviewed the torque of either model (otherwise would have covered this). May do a review if can find time, but would need to be previous torque verses newest torque as 100w difference probably not overly noticeable
@@Speedyfeetuk So it sounds like you get the best of both worlds with the RS. The high speed of the high speed MSP and torque of the MSP high torque.
Which wheel would you consider being more fun, this or the Sherman?
I mean Sherman is in a league of it's own but it's also $1000 more. Gotway msp/ex/this one are all pretty much the best wheels if u want to save 40% $ while getting "most" of the performance.
Sherman you dgaf about anything except topping out performance, over all else including compactibility and pricing value, but it seems to be "the chosen one" for non suspension wheels
@@treasuredcollectibles thanks for the reply! The Sherman is definitely the best spec'ed wheel. My only concern is if the weight of it diminishes the "fun" factor. This will be my first uni so I'm not even sure if weight is a factor in the enjoyment of the ride and being agile or whatnot.
Get the 18xl or 16x. Best wheels ever
@@bartholomewlyons I love my 18XL! It's probably not quite the equal of MSuper on rough trails. For everything but the roughest trails, I couldn't be happier with my 18XL!
Completely agree with the high speed riding! If we want them legalised people need to have a good impression of them. As soon as a pedestrian is hurt there will
Negative media reports about them.
I keep this on the forefront of my mind when riding. Whenever I see people on the sidewalk I purposefully visibly slowdown and then exit the lane they are in, then when I pass visibly speed up.
I know I don't have to do this and I wouldn't hit them, but they may not know that and the "impression" is everything. We need to subliminally condition the populus that won't be riding these that at least their consensus as they are legit and safe
Hello, couldn't you open it to see the axis?
Not whilst doing the 1000km experiment, we dont mess with them so its a fair test. The traditional axis is gone, now its hollow design.
@@Speedyfeetuk never mind ! for a next video, I can't wait to see
Wasnt there a mudguard already fitted on this model?
Gadgetman doesnt come with a mudguard no
@@Speedyfeetuk OK, also on the left side where RS logo is, is that really waterproof?
Would it otherwise be possible to change side plastic to fully covered from MSX?
Thnx =)
Hey Speedy Feet, I have the RS Speed version on pre-order, however I am really having a hard time trying to decide if I should switch my order to the Torque version? It’s my first EUC. I just have this feeling that the torque will be more fun and useable power than a slightly higher cruising speed? And maybe the torque version will be better for gravel roads and trails where I live?
All this considered, I weigh about 200 pounds, and It’s my understanding that the speed and torque version of this model is the same 2600 watt motor? So maybe the RS speed version is at least as torquey as the MSP Torque? What are all your thoughts on this?
Also, maybe it makes sense to say the speed version might be better for a person who lives in a largely paved/urban area and uses it to commute (such as New York or something) where as the torque might be more suited to someone like me who just uses it for joyriding and lives in a rural area with dirt roads and trails, etc.? Even though I am in Michigan and the terrain is pretty flat.
Cant see how you can really go wrong with the RS High Speed, its got plenty of torque, but will hold judgement until the Torque version is out and test them side by side.
Do you ship to the USA???
Ewheels my guy.
We need more than just one or two wheel dealers in America ✌️.
electric unicycles sliders gliders FACTS!!! And I’m not really feeling like spending another dime with them to be honest with you. Although I’m loving the new RS
For speed Veteran Sherman or this MSP RS HS?
Sherman
No trolly handle??
Yeah, same trolley handle as the Msuper V3, but with a slight change as mentioned in the video.
Hello, you can use EUC.world android app to set tiltback up to 70km/h :)
Correct, but with the reviews we stick to how it is from the maker, and hopefully this will push them to do some sort of update at some point
@@Speedyfeetuk they probably won't ;p its gotway
@@bartekstepien278 and yet comunity had not raised 5 dollars or found a coder our selves to fix the faulty coders half a coded wheel.
We bet our spines on the code story end. Yet book ends after page 1 with....nothing cut out infront of bus.
And nobody has used the buying power of rider numbers to hire a competant coder. Wow. Strange culture of silence and death before hireing a coder. Wierd.
super rapide
Would you consider 4000km a lot for a used wheel?
Thats a decent amount of mileage yeah. Can it do more - well as long as its been looked after yes.
But how old is it? And what model?
@@Speedyfeetuk its the most new version of the rs19, Hs. It was ridden by a young child. A really nice father sold it to me. And it was well looked after.
What is the pedal height comparing to the Msp?
A facebookgroup discuss this issue that Rs scraping the pedals,when making a turn.
facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/3346498232114783/
new version will have higher and bigger pedals ;)
This or Nikola+?
I prefer this in terms of its ruggedness
I so wanted to buy this but the speakers were a tacky design choice ...we have ear buds and phones for a reason we don't need noise coming from our EUC. It just created a weak point in the design by adding speakers. what do they think we using this for a boombox, or to get around and go fast in style. Really great design just ruined it with the weak spots in the design trying to make it a mobile boombox.
on top of that why would you build a feature that uses valuable battery supply when speed and distance and Safety front and rear lights should be sole focus not a music player. So disappointed maybe they make a better EUC next time. IMO of course
Why haven't you mentioned anything about the lower pedals? It is a very important feature for most people, especially trial riders, and a decisive purchasing factor (maybe that's why you haven't mentioned it).
Have you seen the other reviews on the wheel? We do 4 thorough reviews on each wheel.
Not quite sure about the comment in relation to people deciding on purchasing a wheel because of ride height and the assumption we havent mentioned it due to the fact it would affect sales? (Not sure how long you have been following, but we are brutally honest irrespective of consequences)
With new lights it look like the big machine in the movie Tron
Yeah look really plush, nice and smooth looking rather than sharp
2:09 Celebration dance
🥳
It's a pitty to buy a high speed wheel and have a limit on 48 km/h or nothing... There should be enough safety margin in higher speed...
It can be set on third party apps, just not native gotway.
Charge time or top speed under load?? Range just put it on a running machine 🤣
You need a license and insurance to ride this...
Which country are you in?
wiring inside is absolute garbage embarrassment for today's electronics level