I can't imagine what would have happened to STS-51i/Discovery if it had been struck by lightning. Note that STS-51I was launched in the middle of a rainstorm and John Young was livid over that reckless decision to launch through that.
@@charleyzimmer2505 one of the reasons why he left his position as chief of the astronaut corps is because he heavily criticised management after 51-L.
I was at that lift off. Was only 12 years old. Something I will never forget. My father was on the team of engineers that developed the Fuel Cells for the Apollo missions and later the space shuttle. That era in space travel can never be forgotten. Thanks for your video.🙂
@@weirdman1670 I was there and have pictures and documentation to prove it. As well as proof that my father was an engineer on the Fuel Cell program from the late 70's to the mid 80's. No reason to lie about something I was around for.
If I remember correctly, I think the guy who said SCE to Aux pulled that from out of his memory when everyone was scrambling. I think he said he didn't know where that came from.
I've read a book about the Apollo program and it said the guy saw a similar problem during a test and that's how they fixed it. Basically they lost all telemetry and only got a bunch of static.
John Aaron recalled seeing a similar pattern that occured on a Saturn IB launch (either on one of the two unmanned Apollo-20x missions that came before the Apollo-204/Apollo 1 fire, or the Apollo 5 test flight that had the legless, windowless LM-1 undergo testing in Low Earth Orbit), and as the issue only affected the spacecraft and not the launch vehicle (given the Saturn IB used a variation of the S-IVB upper stage and Instrument Unit as that used on the Saturn V), and that the issue occured on the pad during a test preparation, Aaron was able to determine that by flipping the SCE switch to the "AUX" position, that telemetry and instrumentation can be restored. Thus when Apollo 12 got struck (twice) by lightning, Aaron saw a similar pattern and told Launch Flight Director Gerry Griffin to relay the "SCE to AUX" command to the CAPCOM (which even Griffin himself thought that Aaron lost his mind, but still passed on the order to the CAPCOM, and the command saved the mission).
Cool thing to include the original comms! Yes, that lightning caused some severe electrical issuses but navigation & control was not harmed. That "switch SCE to AUX" is a snippet into what was going on at mission control and all that training before. It's the same thing with the Apollo 11 landing on the moon when suddenly that error code popped up - all where confused what the heck that means and then somebody remembers this exact code and its meaning from one session in the simulator. All these people behind the scenes made the Apollo program possible and came up with solutions to problems - best example is still Apollo 13. 😎👍
Apollo XIII will always be considered within the pages of Space Exploration as the “Successful Failure” because the failure happened on the way to the Moon while Aquarius was still attached to Odyssey.
000:01:36 Carr: Apollo 12, Houston. Try SCE to Auxiliary. Over. 000:01:39 Conrad: Try FCE to Auxiliary. 000:01:41 Conrad (onboard): What the hell is that? 000:01:42 Gordon (onboard): Fuel cell... 000:01:43 Carr: SCE, SCE to auxiliary. [Long pause.] 000:01:45 Conrad (onboard): Try the buses. Get the buses back on the line. 000:01:48 Bean (onboard): It looks - everything looks good. 000:01:50 Conrad (onboard): SCE to Aux. SCE = Signal Conditioning Equipment
That must have been one of the most heart stopping moments both Apollo 12 and mission control could have experienced, not to have the launch vehicle struck once but twice by lightning, lucky that John Aaron who was stationed at his console remembered in a simulation a year before where he saw garbled telemetry feed indicating low voltage within the command module spacecraft, and to Alan Bean Lunar Module Pilot who knew which switch to select thus saving the mission from being aborted, fantastic graphics to give the viewer a detailed look at what happened on that stormy day in November 1969
Flying on a giant bomb and suddenly power goes out and all you're left with is a couple of bad readings. Is it going to explode? Should you abort? Took a lot of courage to do what those guys did.
The good thing was that, while the Apollo CSM went pretty haywire, the Saturn V IU was not particularly affected. That gave them time to sort out the issues and "reboot" the CSM.
That is some mighty fine rendering and sound! You got one more new subscriber! So Musk discussed a vision for a Starship/Booster 2.0 which would have twice length and diameter as the current model, so they could haul bulldozers and such to Mars. Currently, the idea is to run 100 Raptor 3s to lift the thing but my guess is they’ll design an F-1 engine that can run 400+ bar chamber pressures to keep that engine count more reasonable. How about a Super Duper Ultra Heavy Starship Max with, say, 5-7 such booster strapped together so as to lift a small city to Mars, or at least just look amazing fantastic?
Is the near-failure of Apollo 6 something you can render? I'm not sure how well pogo oscillation could be shown, but that flight had a severe case of it during the first stage burn.
This is what you get when you have the worlds largest (an tallest) lightning rod, low-hanging clouds charged up, just waiting for something like the Saturn V to come along. Afterwards the agency decided to take Mother Nature seriously, putting millions into lightning research and alleviation. This was an age when men was men, and you had steely-eyed missilemen manning the consoles.
@@voltheigan8001 As compared to who? We built on the expriences the space program of the late 20th century to get to where we are at now. So if you say they were dumb, I beg to differ. Just ask Margaret Hamilton, lead programmer at MIT who built the software the AGC and LEM guidance computers.
It’s literally like being there and observing the real launch; including the synchronised dialogue is a master stroke and probably the best documentary clip you can get for the Apollo 12 launch - I was totally unaware this lightning strike incident even happened 😳. You know the CGI is good when you have great difficulty distinguishing it from real footage. Hazegrayart = pure genius….!!!
So many smart people working together and yet they were all dumb enough to launch on a night with dangerous weather conditions and not delay the mission.
Video a little dark for 11 in the morning. Otherwise, an excellent replay of one of the most dramatic incidents in America's Project Apollo moon program. It didn't get more dramatic than during those first few minutes after Apollo 12 lifted off. Oh wait...
After Apollo 12 NASA implemented the 60/40 Rule if says if there is a 60% of lightning and 40% chance of weather violations you don't launch the rocket lightning is dangerous.
Apollo 12 was nowhere near a thunderstorm. The lightning came from a similar effect you get with rubbing something and generating static electricity. In short, the rocket created its own lightning as it rubbed through the atmosphere. That's why most rocket launches today might scrub because of electrical charge between the earth and sky are not acceptable, even if there are only clouds.
Es increible la excelente calidad de esta imagen del año 1969, mucho mejor que algunas de hoy en día !!! Felicitaciones a quienes la hayan restaurado !!!
the centre engine was shut down midway through the first stage burn to reduce thrust loads as the stage emptied. this was standard on all flights as far as i know
For someone wondering this is actual CGI, nice CGI. Ask to Russian Soyuz, they have suffered lightning strike like 10 times, even the Proton-M but the craft doesn't even flickered
Nice bit of CGI still not quite there because you know stuff shot in the 60’s would look old but pretty impressive nonetheless.. Should fool almost everyone on TikTok
If I had a nickel for everytime Apollo 12 was struck by a lightning I would have two nickels, which isn't much, but it's weird that it happened twice
Well, if your nickle got hit hard enough, it'd de-laminate and you would get two more nickles.
But if you had two nickels every time posted a new retelling of the incident on the Internet…😊
I can't imagine what would have happened to STS-51i/Discovery if it had been struck by lightning. Note that STS-51I was launched in the middle of a rainstorm and John Young was livid over that reckless decision to launch through that.
Can't imagine how he felt about Challenger.
@@charleyzimmer2505 one of the reasons why he left his position as chief of the astronaut corps is because he heavily criticised management after 51-L.
I was at that lift off. Was only 12 years old. Something I will never forget. My father was on the team of engineers that developed the Fuel Cells for the Apollo missions and later the space shuttle. That era in space travel can never be forgotten. Thanks for your video.🙂
Lies
@@weirdman1670 I was there and have pictures and documentation to prove it. As well as proof that my father was an engineer on the Fuel Cell program from the late 70's to the mid 80's. No reason to lie about something I was around for.
If I remember correctly, I think the guy who said SCE to Aux pulled that from out of his memory when everyone was scrambling. I think he said he didn't know where that came from.
I've read a book about the Apollo program and it said the guy saw a similar problem during a test and that's how they fixed it. Basically they lost all telemetry and only got a bunch of static.
Yep, he sure didn't Google it.
@@SorinSilaghi Gene Kranz' "Failure is Not an Option" is, as I recall, just one of the books this is mentioned.
John Aaron was a steely-eyed missile man for sure.
John Aaron recalled seeing a similar pattern that occured on a Saturn IB launch (either on one of the two unmanned Apollo-20x missions that came before the Apollo-204/Apollo 1 fire, or the Apollo 5 test flight that had the legless, windowless LM-1 undergo testing in Low Earth Orbit), and as the issue only affected the spacecraft and not the launch vehicle (given the Saturn IB used a variation of the S-IVB upper stage and Instrument Unit as that used on the Saturn V), and that the issue occured on the pad during a test preparation, Aaron was able to determine that by flipping the SCE switch to the "AUX" position, that telemetry and instrumentation can be restored. Thus when Apollo 12 got struck (twice) by lightning, Aaron saw a similar pattern and told Launch Flight Director Gerry Griffin to relay the "SCE to AUX" command to the CAPCOM (which even Griffin himself thought that Aaron lost his mind, but still passed on the order to the CAPCOM, and the command saved the mission).
Cool thing to include the original comms! Yes, that lightning caused some severe electrical issuses but navigation & control was not harmed. That "switch SCE to AUX" is a snippet into what was going on at mission control and all that training before. It's the same thing with the Apollo 11 landing on the moon when suddenly that error code popped up - all where confused what the heck that means and then somebody remembers this exact code and its meaning from one session in the simulator. All these people behind the scenes made the Apollo program possible and came up with solutions to problems - best example is still Apollo 13. 😎👍
Apollo XIII will always be considered within the pages of Space Exploration as the “Successful Failure” because the failure happened on the way to the Moon while Aquarius was still attached to Odyssey.
000:01:36 Carr: Apollo 12, Houston. Try SCE to Auxiliary. Over.
000:01:39 Conrad: Try FCE to Auxiliary.
000:01:41 Conrad (onboard): What the hell is that?
000:01:42 Gordon (onboard): Fuel cell...
000:01:43 Carr: SCE, SCE to auxiliary. [Long pause.]
000:01:45 Conrad (onboard): Try the buses. Get the buses back on the line.
000:01:48 Bean (onboard): It looks - everything looks good.
000:01:50 Conrad (onboard): SCE to Aux.
SCE = Signal Conditioning Equipment
That must have been one of the most heart stopping moments both Apollo 12 and mission control could have experienced, not to have the launch vehicle struck once but twice by lightning, lucky that John Aaron who was stationed at his console remembered in a simulation a year before where he saw garbled telemetry feed indicating low voltage within the command module spacecraft, and to Alan Bean Lunar Module Pilot who knew which switch to select thus saving the mission from being aborted, fantastic graphics to give the viewer a detailed look at what happened on that stormy day in November 1969
This is one of my favorite videos of yours and some great history that I wasn't aware of.
crazy to think this actually happened. god that must of been scary as hell. Didn't apollo 11 have a static electrical discharge too on their way up
must of been?
excuse me, what
@@FoxBoi69 Not that kind of discharge. And not that kind of up. Lol
@@danielle_pine9676 i have no clue waht you wanna say xD
SCE to AUX>CTRL+ALT+DEL
Agree
It was more like trying a different Ethernet card when you lost connectivity on the first.
I think this is my favorite RUclips channel. I always get a little surge of adrenaline when I see a new video posted!
I recommend the 2019 Apollo 11 documentary to this channel. It's a compilation of HD 70mm footage. Excellent.
When watching this video, I remembered the episode about Apollo 12 from the series "From the Earth to the Moon"
Best series about Apollo program
SCE to Aux was called by EECOM controller John Aaron who became a legend because of it. Steely eyed missle man.
Just think, they almost had to abort the launch midflight if that flight controller didn't come in clutch with the fix
Flying on a giant bomb and suddenly power goes out and all you're left with is a couple of bad readings. Is it going to explode? Should you abort? Took a lot of courage to do what those guys did.
The good thing was that, while the Apollo CSM went pretty haywire, the Saturn V IU was not particularly affected. That gave them time to sort out the issues and "reboot" the CSM.
CAPCOM: "Try SCE to AUX"
Al Bean: "I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!"
Haze, should have had Pete laughing into orbit lol🚀
That is some mighty fine rendering and sound! You got one more new subscriber!
So Musk discussed a vision for a Starship/Booster 2.0 which would have twice length and diameter as the current model, so they could haul bulldozers and such to Mars. Currently, the idea is to run 100 Raptor 3s to lift the thing but my guess is they’ll design an F-1 engine that can run 400+ bar chamber pressures to keep that engine count more reasonable.
How about a Super Duper Ultra Heavy Starship Max with, say, 5-7 such booster strapped together so as to lift a small city to Mars, or at least just look amazing fantastic?
Is the near-failure of Apollo 6 something you can render? I'm not sure how well pogo oscillation could be shown, but that flight had a severe case of it during the first stage burn.
YES!!!!! I want to see a Saturn stack pointed at weird angles!
@@ziggystardust4627
Literally me playing KSP
This is what you get when you have the worlds largest (an tallest) lightning rod, low-hanging clouds charged up, just waiting for something like the Saturn V to come along. Afterwards the agency decided to take Mother Nature seriously, putting millions into lightning research and alleviation.
This was an age when men was men, and you had steely-eyed missilemen manning the consoles.
When men was dumb*
@@voltheigan8001 As compared to who? We built on the expriences the space program of the late 20th century to get to where we are at now. So if you say they were dumb, I beg to differ. Just ask Margaret Hamilton, lead programmer at MIT who built the software the AGC and LEM guidance computers.
You're work with the lighting in the clouds is fantastic
And then they went and landed on the moon.
Apollo is mind-blowing.
Is this CGI or actual footage? The clarity is something I haven't seen before from shots like this. Thanks for sharing
Pure Hazegrayart CGI.
@@grandicellichannel Ah, thanks for the clarification. Still, very well done
So your actual problem with this being believably realistic is that it looked too good? ;)
The technology
It’s literally like being there and observing the real launch; including the synchronised dialogue is a master stroke and probably the best documentary clip you can get for the Apollo 12 launch - I was totally unaware this lightning strike incident even happened 😳. You know the CGI is good when you have great difficulty distinguishing it from real footage. Hazegrayart = pure genius….!!!
That was just pure amazingness! Thank you for this.
Your videos continue to amaze and delight!
"I think we need to do more all-weather testing"
Heh
All the people behind Saturn and Apollo missions are forever Heroes. Backup on anything, wow.
Ariane rocket family please
'"Flight, try SCE to AUX."
1:55 SCE to AUX
EJ_SA 154
So many smart people working together and yet they were all dumb enough to launch on a night with dangerous weather conditions and not delay the mission.
Set SCE to AUX!
Really good - quite forgot I was watching a recreation!
Saturn V-irgin: Striked by lightnings.
CHAD N1-L3: *Strikes itself.*
John Aaron ...GENIUS !!
Video a little dark for 11 in the morning. Otherwise, an excellent replay of one of the most dramatic incidents in America's Project Apollo moon program. It didn't get more dramatic than during those first few minutes after Apollo 12 lifted off. Oh wait...
.......May have used night footage from Apollo 17 to enhance the CGI.....
After Apollo 12 NASA implemented the 60/40 Rule if says if there is a 60% of lightning and 40% chance of weather violations you don't launch the rocket lightning is dangerous.
Apollo 12 was nowhere near a thunderstorm. The lightning came from a similar effect you get with rubbing something and generating static electricity. In short, the rocket created its own lightning as it rubbed through the atmosphere. That's why most rocket launches today might scrub because of electrical charge between the earth and sky are not acceptable, even if there are only clouds.
Nice editing bro
11:22am, and its dark wtf
Stormy conditions, minus rain and wind
They were above the clouds pretty quickly too😉
John Aaron: Steely Eyed Missile Man
It’s amazing the mission succeeded
can you imagine you watch this as stream right now?
Es increible la excelente calidad de esta imagen del año 1969, mucho mejor que algunas de hoy en día !!! Felicitaciones a quienes la hayan restaurado !!!
I would like to see the Apollo 12 EVA 2 video
Haze be having fun with lightning effects
Artemus doesn't have a chance. LOL. It seems like we have better video back then too. Even in bad weather.
How many of you guys want to see Haz do the CGI of STS-51i/Discovery?
Zeus be like: i hate human fireworcks!!!
Random greeck women:"And there along came Zeus. He holds his thunderbolt!!!"
Apollo 12: Got some xtra energy
Nice rocket launch!
Another goldie!
They literally were riding the LIGHTNING BOLT
One minor niggle though - the Saturn FIVE only appears to have four engines!
the centre engine was shut down midway through the first stage burn to reduce thrust loads as the stage emptied. this was standard on all flights as far as i know
Make Project Daedalus please.
lucky they had some steely eyed missile men in houston
Thank you for this!
Nice CG...
Velocity 10000ft per sec!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
WOW
Apollo 12 was not a night launch
мОЩНЫЕ ВИДЕОКАРТЫ! КРАСИВАЯ КАРТИНКА!
เก่งมากครับไม่น่าเชื่อ
Anyone explain why voice sound is soooo bad in every rocket lunch video like some cough suffering robot speaking??? 🤔
- Hickory, Dickery,, Dock. Two mice ran up the clock. The clock struck 1:00.
And the other ran away with minor injuries. 🍸 °° "Hic!" °°
💯%💯 edit Amazing
Just that one time
I learned about that some time ago
Yay 13 seconds early to marsterpieces :)
hi 👋
Amen
Impresionante....
That's neat,
👍
For someone wondering this is actual CGI, nice CGI. Ask to Russian Soyuz, they have suffered lightning strike like 10 times, even the Proton-M but the craft doesn't even flickered
great video :D💯👊
This is not real. Btw this video is well done! Keep up the good work!
Nice bit of CGI still not quite there because you know stuff shot in the 60’s would look old but pretty impressive nonetheless..
Should fool almost everyone on TikTok
Where separation motors 😠
good CGI
yay im extremely early
Fear God !
To much CGI
Fake. it's computer generated !
Bruh it wasn’t fake
Отписка
But why tho
Lousy.
Who Cares.
Fake
Just so much mythic power in this.......
คือเรื่องคนต่างชาตินี้ขอไม่ได้ครับ เขาเป็นคนเลือกจะไปอยู่กับใครเราก็แค่เป็นคนกลางตรวจสอบว่าทุกอย่างถูกต้องเหมาะสม
great video :D 💯👊
Fake