@@mitsmork998 thank you. Im not trying to be anybody other than me though. I have been doing this for +20 years. I just started sharing it because.. well. I wanted someone to share it with🙏
My new favourite channel to watch, you've got alot of great tips and comparisons ,Oem+ is exactly the way I'm going with my 330ci as well. If you ever go as far as trying to achieve some NA power from the M54 I'd love to see you take on an N54b30 intake manifold swap, theres limited info out there but its supposed to give some considerable gains of around 30-40bhp
I always run 99 ron on mine as there’s noticeable difference in throttle response, engine feels more lively in general, plus fuel consumption is noticeably lower too. Around here tesco momentum is more consistent than vpower so is recommended by tuners.
Ok, I did that. Thank you so much for your feedback and input trough your video! The difference on my M54B30 running MS43 it's really noticable. I'm running the sprint booster on my throttle pedal so it's not just the "butt dyno" effect after resetting the adaptations. Insane what a great mod! Thumb up again for the video with the data!
You've inspired me to try the software updates, thank you! :) I did the ZF auto gearbox last night, and after a bit of a worrying time waiting for the faults to clear it's all good and certainly feels better and less prone to changing around. My MS43 DME is next! Thanks again for your video, it was very helpful! I've only had my E46 325Ci for a few weeks and fixing quite a few mechanical issues with it too, so it's good to be able to fix/update the software as well. Cheers!!
Thank you for the kind words. Im glad to hear you got the trans sorted. Please let me know if you feel any cahnge after having updated the dme as well. I certainly can feel the difference now but i also switched to premium fuel for this last part of the test.
While I cannot comment about the software update making a difference performance wise (though it would make sense to have further optimizations), I can confirm that there is a difference between the RON rating simply by looking in the ignition timing maps in the DME -> there are two of them, one for 95, one for 99. And, as expected, the 99 one has slightly more aggressive timing. So, people saying that the engine runs the same with either fuel are simply wrong. Even if you don't necessarily feel that difference, the DME adjusts ignition parameters differently.
Thank you. I apreciate it:) Pulleys dont do alot compared to the costs and BmW pulleys are lightweigt pullys from the factpry already. I will look into it and see what people say and decide from there:)
Thanks again for the excellent information and hard work. Going to try this next week. I need to see where to find the files. I keep missing that part.
The updated files are part of the download. The youtube video i link to in the description has the link to the tools you download. If you follow that videos guideline(install the tools) then they are part of it. This part is what confused me as well before downloading the tools(with the updates included) as i already had winkfp before but when i tried using the version i already had it wouldnt show me a possible update to my existing tune. But once i installed his tool(winkfp and inpa) i could do the updtate. Its really easy to do so once you follow the video i linked to in the description
I should have explained it better and i did try and make a video of “how to” but it didnt come out all thay great due to poor camera and poor skills on my part. But if i can do this update so can everyone else
@@E90M3ZCPS65 did you follow the videos step og replacing some folders with others? But yes there should be ms45 as well, although that should take considerably longer to update once you do
Thank you. I love your scientific approach to car tuning. This is how it's done! I wish more people would follow your example instead of trusting butt dyno. Are you going to attempt adjusting ignition table manually? There maybe couple of degrees timing hidden in the safety margin.
Interesting to see if that actually makes a difference on ms43 ecus :D I did this to my ms42 and really didnt notice anything but i might open up the doors to someone like me to get into tuning ms42/43 ecus since it is very simple and quite rewarding :) And Of course the video is great as always! :) Keep it up!
0.2s is hard to notice but the 0.4s is noticeable imo. I hope you do. Then maybe you can give me a few tips as im not the best with tuning modern cars. Carbs and dizzy’s however🤣 Thank you for the support💪
Very interesting, I am wondering though if this is because in doing this you are resetting the throttle adaptations? I know on the non M E46's, the throttle adapts itself to your driving style. Over time, with enough combinations of hard/gentle driving, the throttle is no longer at a 1/1 ratio. The only way to get it back (temporarily, without a tune) is to reset the throttle adaptations. Most owners I've met notice a very big difference after doing this, although it only lasts a few days until the adaptations change again. I would like to know if after a few weeks you still notice these faster times
Thats a very good question. Is it just adaptions? Well. I dont know! The only thing i know is that i give it full throttle for the test. So unless adapted full throttle isnt full throttle really, the results SHOULD be the same. But again. I havent actually tested it. But during 10-15 runs to get the 10 verfied runs it didnt seem to get slower What do you think? Is the full throttle perhaps not really full throttle after a while?
@@OEMplusRESTO Thanks for coming back. I think the best answer is - time will tell. I know the throttle adaptations are fairly slow to change especially when you have only just reset them. See how it is after a months time :) By the way - I've only just come across your channel - great content! Fellow E46 owner here who loves working on M54's
@@skyward3107 thanks so much. And its a great question. Im in the middle of a front end refresh, but i have ordered a mail order tune(just a tuned plug and play dme) and will try and do more testing (oe vs mailorder) and possibly throw some intakes in there and maybe even UD pulleys as well. So yws howpfully time will tell:)
@@OEMplusRESTO I understood the adaptations to include variances in fuel octane, and that they take '500km' to update, so changing from 95 to 98 takes a tank or so before the adaptations result in an ideal map, according to the ECU and its sensors. Not that this stops a change being measurable after draining and replacing as you did it, but that the change may be better (or worse?) by the time the tank depletes. The throttle adaptations can be modified along with the hexvalues in the maps now thankfully, which is what changes the feel of the car's 'pokiness'/responsiveness, the most. These are different on Auto vs manual, as well as octane, and likely, emissions (dep. on market and production date). I wonder what the one you flashed was for!
Great video, I was just about to do the same on my e46. If I understand correctly, you have to update the DME version one by one up to the latest version, did you hook up external power to the battery during the update?
Hi. Not one by one no. In short, you “just” launch winkfp and choose your DME. Then it will itself find the latest tune made by bmw for it, and update it, if you choose so. But it does that 2 times before its done. The 2 times you see it loading 0-100% is normal and requiered. Its probably the full and partial binary it uploads to the dme but this is just a guess
my 330ci was produced in may 2000, it came as euro 2 car, in car registration papers it's listed as 172kw car, while normal ones are 170, and US spec are 168kw. drove euro 2 and 3 car, butt dyno felt as euro 2 was bit more peppy and eager to go, but in this realm it's too easy to get some false positives. Also long time ago car served me extremely well so i decided to reward it with some Shell premium fuel and car ran like shit, loss of power and idled bad. no obd2 codes and couldn't find problems, but when i used all my expensive fuel and went back to cheap one car ran great again.
@@northernmaten7676 WBABN51000JT60608, i check and it says on 170 on decoder, actually it is june 2000 not may. I didn't get any books with car so my resources are limited. Only thing i saw diffrent parts wise from euro 3 cars is that i had door handles which don't go up, just straight out (99-00), i have strut towers in shape of e36 ones (same as m52 323 and 328), and i have yellow steering rack 712 (as zhp). All euro 3 i had seen have purple tag rack, euro 2 i saw for most part had yellow zhp rack. Car was bought and first registered in croatia and as far i can track past back it was always listed as 172 kw
I tried filling up my daily driver with one of those gas canisters too last week and made a complete mess like you lol. A friend showed me you can buy an electric siphon pump for this exact purpose for like 20 euros. I'm gonna get one for sure. Anyways, great video like always! Might try this on my 330 after the engine revision. I think the previous owner put a custom tune on the car tho, I wonder if that will cause any issues.
I always struggle with pouring fuel on manually lol. Thank you for the tip:) I dont know how to find out if its tuned or not, or how well it was done. But i have shown here that bmw’s latest tune for the m54b30 is super consistent and also adjusts well to fuel quality. So maybe you could do the same test as i did and see if you get the same results? If not, its either a poor tune or no tune at all.
Yes. But these times are a bit more inconclusive, snd i only did it between the stock and updated tune. It did get faster though. Just too many variables so i decided to leave it out
@martsmarts the tools linked in the video i linked to in the descrition had the tunes. Does that make sense? Essentially you install winkfp and inpa if you follow the instructions in rhe video i link to. And then do like i did in the video. Let me know if you keed further clarifying
I tried but it didnt come out all that well so i left it out:( but the video and links in the description is all i used to do it. Hope it help. Dont know about the e46 m3 but i would imagine it would be the same. Free.
Subscribed! Interesting Channel that you have. Does anyone have experience with the Tunes for the M54B25? I have it in my E85 Z4 and would be interested if the results would be similar
Hi there I wanted to do this but havent found a Link to download Winkfp. I dont want the whole Setup as ive already got Inpa, NCS Expert etc. Can you help me?
Hello friend an dme me9k_ng4 in my e46 318i 2002 n42b20 engine can be updated? I have several months looking around and no one has updated this Ecu in winkfp don’t show on the list this Ecu family can you tell me how to do it or some thing about it? I’m frustrated
Good question. It does matter. But the 3degrees celcius difference wont make that big of an effect on its own. Especially not when neither temp is in the high temp area like 30degrees celcius would be. Also, i have to work with what ive got and weather is one thing i cant control:(
I updated my ms43 to ms45.1 and the check engine came on. I delete the code and it appears again immediately. If I want to restore the ms43 that was previously, how do I do it? e46 330ci 2005 automatic
I really enjoy your videos. Fun and no nonsense at the same time 😂😂
Thats a very nice compliment. Thanks
You gotta take your car to the Nurburgring & do some laps. Catch up with Stretton of M539 and his e46. Keep up the great work! Love the e46 vids!!!!
Wicked thumbnail dude 😂😂 You also remind me of m539 restorations (Sreten)... You are both cool dudes. Subscribed!
I get that alot yes.. im the wish version you ordered🙈
@@OEMplusRESTO hahaha one day you'll get there, im sure!!!
@@mitsmork998 thank you. Im not trying to be anybody other than me though. I have been doing this for +20 years. I just started sharing it because.. well. I wanted someone to share it with🙏
My new favourite channel to watch, you've got alot of great tips and comparisons ,Oem+ is exactly the way I'm going with my 330ci as well. If you ever go as far as trying to achieve some NA power from the M54 I'd love to see you take on an N54b30 intake manifold swap, theres limited info out there but its supposed to give some considerable gains of around 30-40bhp
Thank you. Id love to try and do that, and add zhp cams while doing it:)
I always run 99 ron on mine as there’s noticeable difference in throttle response, engine feels more lively in general, plus fuel consumption is noticeably lower too. Around here tesco momentum is more consistent than vpower so is recommended by tuners.
Ok, I did that. Thank you so much for your feedback and input trough your video! The difference on my M54B30 running MS43 it's really noticable. I'm running the sprint booster on my throttle pedal so it's not just the "butt dyno" effect after resetting the adaptations. Insane what a great mod! Thumb up again for the video with the data!
that's actually pretty impressive, very instructive video, thanks for that😉
Yes i believe so too. Quite surprised just how big difference there is
Discovered your channel earlier today and very happy I did. Great video and information. Thanks!
Great vid, all explained and meticulous. Incredible results!
You've inspired me to try the software updates, thank you! :) I did the ZF auto gearbox last night, and after a bit of a worrying time waiting for the faults to clear it's all good and certainly feels better and less prone to changing around. My MS43 DME is next! Thanks again for your video, it was very helpful! I've only had my E46 325Ci for a few weeks and fixing quite a few mechanical issues with it too, so it's good to be able to fix/update the software as well. Cheers!!
Thank you for the kind words. Im glad to hear you got the trans sorted. Please let me know if you feel any cahnge after having updated the dme as well. I certainly can feel the difference now but i also switched to premium fuel for this last part of the test.
While I cannot comment about the software update making a difference performance wise (though it would make sense to have further optimizations), I can confirm that there is a difference between the RON rating simply by looking in the ignition timing maps in the DME -> there are two of them, one for 95, one for 99. And, as expected, the 99 one has slightly more aggressive timing. So, people saying that the engine runs the same with either fuel are simply wrong. Even if you don't necessarily feel that difference, the DME adjusts ignition parameters differently.
Super cool to have someone verify it with facts. Thanks
D00de, you're magic! Great vids, especially cause they're backed up by data! Cmon, we wanna see if oversized power pulley kits do anything
Thank you. I apreciate it:) Pulleys dont do alot compared to the costs and BmW pulleys are lightweigt pullys from the factpry already. I will look into it and see what people say and decide from there:)
Ok apparantly its a thing.. will definitely check this out.. need to do some maintenance first, and mail order tune lol
Interesting results. Thanks for sharing! 👍
Hi! I really appreciate your way to share the informations and experiences with us! Keep up with the good work!👌
I enjoy sharing my hobby so im grateful youre here
liking the new chill format Tim 😁 keep it up!
Thank you Jacek. Do you feel its more chill? I think im getting used to be in front of a camera maybe. So thats maybe why
@@OEMplusRESTOof course, you can feel it as soon as the video starts, good stuff :D
Thank you very much man! Updating the DME and erasing adaptations made my 328 go 0.7s faster on the 50-110! And my idle issues are gone
Youre most welcome. And quite a jump in power too. I hope it comtinues driving well:)
Where can I get that diagram you have on your desktop wallpaper?
Lots of annoying ads and whatnot but here it is wallpapercave.com/w/wVFzCPa
Thanks again for the excellent information and hard work. Going to try this next week. I need to see where to find the files. I keep missing that part.
The updated files are part of the download. The youtube video i link to in the description has the link to the tools you download. If you follow that videos guideline(install the tools) then they are part of it. This part is what confused me as well before downloading the tools(with the updates included) as i already had winkfp before but when i tried using the version i already had it wouldnt show me a possible update to my existing tune. But once i installed his tool(winkfp and inpa) i could do the updtate. Its really easy to do so once you follow the video i linked to in the description
I should have explained it better and i did try and make a video of “how to” but it didnt come out all thay great due to poor camera and poor skills on my part. But if i can do this update so can everyone else
Tim thank you always!
Tim is this update only for MS43? I have a MS45.1 and my hw file is 7561520. No update file will show up. I must be doing something wrong.
@@E90M3ZCPS65 did you follow the videos step og replacing some folders with others?
But yes there should be ms45 as well, although that should take considerably longer to update once you do
Thank you. I love your scientific approach to car tuning. This is how it's done! I wish more people would follow your example instead of trusting butt dyno.
Are you going to attempt adjusting ignition table manually? There maybe couple of degrees timing hidden in the safety margin.
Im on my second or third week waiting for a mail order tuned dme to be released by customs so i can try that out instead😅 and thanks for the support💪
Thanks for the video, think will definitely look into doing this. really liking the content!
Interesting to see if that actually makes a difference on ms43 ecus :D
I did this to my ms42 and really didnt notice anything but i might open up the doors to someone like me to get into tuning ms42/43 ecus since it is very simple and quite rewarding :)
And Of course the video is great as always! :) Keep it up!
0.2s is hard to notice but the 0.4s is noticeable imo. I hope you do. Then maybe you can give me a few tips as im not the best with tuning modern cars. Carbs and dizzy’s however🤣
Thank you for the support💪
@@OEMplusRESTO yea sure i can give you some tips :) Its extremly simple once you get the hang of it :D
Great Video! Ever thought of testing a single mass lightweight flywheel? Would be a nice video! Grtz
Thank you. Yes i have. Will maybe do one when i get to the clutch part of this resto:)
Very interesting, I am wondering though if this is because in doing this you are resetting the throttle adaptations? I know on the non M E46's, the throttle adapts itself to your driving style.
Over time, with enough combinations of hard/gentle driving, the throttle is no longer at a 1/1 ratio. The only way to get it back (temporarily, without a tune) is to reset the throttle adaptations.
Most owners I've met notice a very big difference after doing this, although it only lasts a few days until the adaptations change again.
I would like to know if after a few weeks you still notice these faster times
Thats a very good question. Is it just adaptions?
Well. I dont know! The only thing i know is that i give it full throttle for the test. So unless adapted full throttle isnt full throttle really, the results SHOULD be the same. But again. I havent actually tested it. But during 10-15 runs to get the 10 verfied runs it didnt seem to get slower
What do you think? Is the full throttle perhaps not really full throttle after a while?
@@OEMplusRESTO Thanks for coming back. I think the best answer is - time will tell. I know the throttle adaptations are fairly slow to change especially when you have only just reset them. See how it is after a months time :)
By the way - I've only just come across your channel - great content! Fellow E46 owner here who loves working on M54's
@@skyward3107 thanks so much. And its a great question. Im in the middle of a front end refresh, but i have ordered a mail order tune(just a tuned plug and play dme) and will try and do more testing (oe vs mailorder) and possibly throw some intakes in there and maybe even UD pulleys as well. So yws howpfully time will tell:)
@@OEMplusRESTO I understood the adaptations to include variances in fuel octane, and that they take '500km' to update, so changing from 95 to 98 takes a tank or so before the adaptations result in an ideal map, according to the ECU and its sensors. Not that this stops a change being measurable after draining and replacing as you did it, but that the change may be better (or worse?) by the time the tank depletes. The throttle adaptations can be modified along with the hexvalues in the maps now thankfully, which is what changes the feel of the car's 'pokiness'/responsiveness, the most. These are different on Auto vs manual, as well as octane, and likely, emissions (dep. on market and production date). I wonder what the one you flashed was for!
@@oncall3570 manuel 330ci latest one released by bmw
I really love the fact that you take ur time to do your tests and comparisons. What differential ratio did u use for this test?
Thank you❤️ This is the 3.15 diff. Im gonna instll the 3.38 again soon.. should run pretty good by then!
@@OEMplusRESTO ok
But how do you know wich dme family to select for your car?
Awesome video.. Thank you!!..
Great video, I was just about to do the same on my e46. If I understand correctly, you have to update the DME version one by one up to the latest version, did you hook up external power to the battery during the update?
Hi. Not one by one no.
In short, you “just” launch winkfp and choose your DME. Then it will itself find the latest tune made by bmw for it, and update it, if you choose so. But it does that 2 times before its done. The 2 times you see it loading 0-100% is normal and requiered. Its probably the full and partial binary it uploads to the dme but this is just a guess
Yes hooked up to a battery tender
@@OEMplusRESTOThanks!
my 330ci was produced in may 2000, it came as euro 2 car, in car registration papers it's listed as 172kw car, while normal ones are 170, and US spec are 168kw.
drove euro 2 and 3 car, butt dyno felt as euro 2 was bit more peppy and eager to go, but in this realm it's too easy to get some false positives.
Also long time ago car served me extremely well so i decided to reward it with some Shell premium fuel and car ran like shit, loss of power and idled bad. no obd2 codes and couldn't find problems, but when i used all my expensive fuel and went back to cheap one car ran great again.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing
thats weird to have 172kw with euro 2 tune, can you provide the vin number so we can check it on bmw decoder?
@@northernmaten7676 WBABN51000JT60608, i check and it says on 170 on decoder, actually it is june 2000 not may. I didn't get any books with car so my resources are limited. Only thing i saw diffrent parts wise from euro 3 cars is that i had door handles which don't go up, just straight out (99-00), i have strut towers in shape of e36 ones (same as m52 323 and 328), and i have yellow steering rack 712 (as zhp). All euro 3 i had seen have purple tag rack, euro 2 i saw for most part had yellow zhp rack. Car was bought and first registered in croatia and as far i can track past back it was always listed as 172 kw
I tried filling up my daily driver with one of those gas canisters too last week and made a complete mess like you lol. A friend showed me you can buy an electric siphon pump for this exact purpose for like 20 euros. I'm gonna get one for sure. Anyways, great video like always! Might try this on my 330 after the engine revision. I think the previous owner put a custom tune on the car tho, I wonder if that will cause any issues.
I always struggle with pouring fuel on manually lol. Thank you for the tip:)
I dont know how to find out if its tuned or not, or how well it was done. But i have shown here that bmw’s latest tune for the m54b30 is super consistent and also adjusts well to fuel quality. So maybe you could do the same test as i did and see if you get the same results? If not, its either a poor tune or no tune at all.
That is impressive. Have you done 0-100 times?
Yes. But these times are a bit more inconclusive, snd i only did it between the stock and updated tune. It did get faster though. Just too many variables so i decided to leave it out
@JuhlsGarage may I Know where you got the tune, website and what program you used? I have a 2001 330ci manual just like yours
@martsmarts the tools linked in the video i linked to in the descrition had the tunes. Does that make sense?
Essentially you install winkfp and inpa if you follow the instructions in rhe video i link to. And then do like i did in the video. Let me know if you keed further clarifying
Can you please make a detail video on how to do the software update? Is the prices the same for e46m3 ?
I tried but it didnt come out all that well so i left it out:( but the video and links in the description is all i used to do it. Hope it help. Dont know about the e46 m3 but i would imagine it would be the same. Free.
Subscribed! Interesting Channel that you have. Does anyone have experience with the Tunes for the M54B25? I have it in my E85 Z4 and would be interested if the results would be similar
Thank you. I love that car. I tried fitting the sound generator from the 3.0 version but sadly it didnt work out. Cant answer your question though:(
Hi there
I wanted to do this but havent found a Link to download Winkfp. I dont want the whole Setup as ive already got Inpa, NCS Expert etc. Can you help me?
I dont think i have ever seen winkfp by itself. Maybe on reddit or i fb groups some have it as a standalone?
Help!!, I did the same steps as you and when I updated it my car has a whole bunch of lights now and it can’t drive it at all
Nvm it’s had to reset adaptation values in inpa and so far it’s goof
Glad you got it sorted:)
Hello friend an dme me9k_ng4 in my e46 318i 2002 n42b20 engine can be updated? I have several months looking around and no one has updated this Ecu in winkfp don’t show on the list this Ecu family can you tell me how to do it or some thing about it? I’m frustrated
I have no experience with that engine so i dont know.
Do you think the drop in temperature as the day progresses during your test would account for some portion of these results?
Good question. It does matter. But the 3degrees celcius difference wont make that big of an effect on its own. Especially not when neither temp is in the high temp area like 30degrees celcius would be. Also, i have to work with what ive got and weather is one thing i cant control:(
Are there also some gains for the 320i with M54B22?
I havent tried but my best guess would be yes, though maybe not as pronounced.
Fuel level was the same for all 3 tests?
Within 10liters or so yes. Maybe even leas
I updated my ms43 to ms45.1 and the check engine came on. I delete the code and it appears again immediately. If I want to restore the ms43 that was previously, how do I do it?
e46 330ci 2005 automatic
Did you save a backup of the original file?