Crusader Cat was at Anthrocon this year. They somehow got into the fursuit parade and everyone left a hige gap between them and him so he was walking alone. Literally no one wants anything to do with them.
@@aevenova9780 Bullying about a fursuiter that have Nazi patches all over him and continue to wear it after many complains about it? How is that being a bully who is wearing something offensives to others?
Tell us more. It's also disgusting that that prick isn't in prison, he should be rotting there, along with all the other members of that Neo Nazi zoo/pedo ring.
@@erebosthemogoreg Dude had a laptop that had a lot of krystal porn. Mind you, this was in 2004 - Laptops weren't common. At the time, the school had 7th graders upstairs. He hears them talking about Starfox and he says "Hey, you like starfox? Check this out!" and shows them what I can only presume is Krystal Porn, based off of the kids' expression. So yes, he was always a creep!
Military history geek here just to clarify that German style helmet is a so called pickelhaube what was used from 1842 to 1916 so way before ww2 and isn’t actaually a n@zi symbol it also makes me sad that n@zis use it as if it’s theirs even that it isn’t because it’s more a symbol of royalty
As a furry historian it sorta touches my nerve when people confuse WW1 Germany and WW2 Germany. WW1 Germany = German Empire. WW2 Germany = N#&+ Germany
I absolutely love your style of video making I just have to say. your PNG tube icons are striking, the animation is very smooth, the editing is top-notch. Great work on your presentation, has a lot of polish and professionalism.
eh, i disagree. considering the fact that that flag in particular is a battle flag, lots of people i know hang it up in their house as a relic and memorial. I do agree its unacceptable to wear it around though
Freedom to what. -puts on a goose fursuit- Also i'm glad you covered him copying Lemonade; I knew them a bit personally and Magnus doing that, well. Sent a few of us a certain way. Some of us somehow talked some sense into him, or he got tried of hearing people complain about it, but either way he did end up destroying the copy.. and turning it into the flag suit, lol.
the german ww1 soldiers were not evil. they were just stupid young men who lived through hell for a shitty worthless war that ended nothing. just like all the other soldiers.
THANK YOU! I had seen this suit all over google and such, and i always wondered who the tard was behind it, but i never really dug deeper. this explained it really well with great detail, and without being a whole unbearable hour long, you deserve my subscription.
@@personman2346 i am literally neurodivergent. if you are offended, feel free to ignore my comment. “slurs” are just words society decided are going to be offensive and i find that dumb, i have every right to say them, especially since i can reclaim
@@finnqueenston Not everyone wants to reclaim it, and you can't speak for every neurodivergent person. If someone says you shouldn't use it, at least recognize that they would prefer you didn't around them.
It's a controversial suit for sure but it has some good design. The ears are designed to look like horns from behind, but body is soft and cute. His expression is grumpy and upset yet altogether harmless.
@@MrObsvenchilde leaving out the flag it looks like a well designed suit and decent quality. Shame that it's ruined by the lunatics bigoted views and that damn flag.
The furry fandom is a microcosm of the non-furry world. Everything that you can find in non-furries, you can find in some dusty, dark corner of the fandom. Every kink furries have started in kink and/or fictokink communities before furries were a thing. Racism, bigotry, hatred? Check, all of the above. There aren't a lot of these, but Free Fur All is definitely the convention most of them seem to be attracted to. The con claims to be anti-politics, but what they seem to mean is "anti-wokeness" (there's that nebulous term again-- woke-- which detractors seem to pin down as, "I can't define it, but I think I know it when I see it").
Hey, historian here. I just wanna say some things, though please know that I still love this video! Firstly, that isn't the Confederate flag. That is the Dixie flag, which was the battle flag of the Confederacy up until it's demise in 1865. Also, that WW1 German hat is called a pickelhaube, and it isn't as bad as you think. The German Empire was actually not that bad of a place, and was honestly, in my personal opinion, the best form of Germany in history. I hope I cleared some things up for you!
Can't imitation fursuiters get sued for copyright infringement? In the United States, whenever you make a work of art, you're automatically the copyright holder. This would include suits.
I would think so myself. I mean, I wouldn't be okay with someone else making a copy suit of my Erebos suit! I'd try my damnedest to take them down unless we come to terms.
After hearing the stories behind this guy and his suit I’m thinking he might’ve been behind the gassing of mff 2014 after he was kicked out and banned from the con
its very easy to make chlorine gas. like accident easy. but he is definetly a compatible suspect. my guess is they mixed two chemical cleaners inside the jar and smashed it in the stairwell, and cleaners could easily be smuggled into the convention (if they werent sourced from within)
@@wubbinz true but I’m think he might’ve had a accomplice in this undertaking but then another thought came to mind he wasn’t banded from the event till the year after I believe, but what if it was him who else would do such a horrible deed to not just the furry guests but to the normal people staying at the hotel
My stance on right vs left is this: You can be on the right just dont be become an extremist. You can be on the left just dont be an extremist. When you go too far either direction you lose the plot. Extreme right = Racists Extreme left = Every one is a bigot period. Listen to each side and talk it out. A closed mind is a wonderful thing to lose. Im not a furry but I am sure my point can be applied to just about everything and all fan bases. Maybe not these guys but still...
this sounds more like a caricature of the left and is in no way equal to a racist right winger. Bigotry exists and is a real problem, ppl calling other bigots, not so much.
@@shawnsmith8558ok then, you can live the rest of your life thinking every single person is a racist bigot with a victem mentality all day being terminainally online with twitter as the only source of having some sort of social life
Far left and far right people are so annoying. They argue and argue all day, getting nowhere. People who actually have a level-headed debate are people i can respect
I was almost his roommate (not for cons, actual living) He threatened to R word me, then got made I didnt wanna move in last minute to him SAYING THIS TO ME.
every time i see clappy post about some one controversial i HAVE to watch it. i cant not go a day without watching this channel same thing wtih lanza as well both you guys are just so good with the content
Looking at his fursona, the German language has a word that perfectly describes it. Backpfeifengesicht or punchable face. And I mean this as solely looking at the face of his fursuit.
Magnus is actually from Pennsylvania, "Arkansas" is the name of his Confederate suit, which makes no sense as it was the Northern Virginia army that had that awful design.
I was at MFF when he made the run down the corridor to main events while holding that flag. I heard from multiple furries that once he got there. He was drenched with soda.
This is the first time ive ever heard this story and his name, his fursuit used to be a meme on my friends discord server for a few years because we thought it was awful. This guy is just as nuts as his suit.
@@MrObsvenchilde Consider that the justice system is also not as punishing as it should be to some people and people who did drugs are punished more while others who did worse are let back out.... We should remember that is unfortunately a thing...
As a non-furry this feels like an inevitably do to the over politicization of the subculture. I mean, the end kinda tells it all. The comparison was with a political philosophy and not a subculture with or without sex. The comparison was feminism, not BDSM or Pokémon. If something gets steeped in politics expect to get the Nazi and Commies on either end ignoring their respective atrocities. And where in nonpolitical spaces one can just throw them out for being off topic or clown on them, here one has to address them. When political discourse is opened it legitimizes political expression in the community. PS To the creator, it is best these people to have an outlet regardless of your favorability to their ideologies. These people would still be in your community with their beliefs without these public outlets. Magnus would still believe what he believes but be making more copycat costumes while letting his views fester. And as history shows, without these outlets these ideologies can maneuver to more subversive means. It's best to let these type of people out themselves and use sunlight to disinfect as you've done in this video.
A go-fund-me to bail that guy out would be an interesting way to get a list of people to keep an eye on in case of more instances of this. But I don't think go-fund-me can do that without legal reasons like if a murder was funded. But suspicion of a literal terrorist attack at a furry convention and the prevention of future incidents would have been enough to get that info.
People have the freedom to vote left/middle/right depending on their beliefs yes so I wouldn't fault that at all. Same with if they have a religion or not they are free to have religious beliefs. However, impersonation, racism etc are big no nos (pretty disgusting imo) and I hope that's just a few people vs the idea it's a whole con of that because that would be scary. He's certainly grabbing the wrong attention. From what I heard the con was just like any other but with different host in set panels.
I disagree. You have the right to not let him into a con, but there's nothing illegal about being "offensive". It's only a crime when there's a "call-to-action", a.k.a. inciting riot; not that that stopped any antifa furs from destroying neighborhoods and cities. None of these so-called "supremacists" have tossed a molotov on a struggling immigrant's business in almost 60 years. Seen plenty of leftists do that, though. Selective sympathy from you people.
I hope I can clear something up. The confederate flag is not racist unless being used in a racist way. Otherwise it is just the flag of the south. But I do agree that political views should not be brought into the fandom
As someone from the deep south, it represents traitors who thankfully lost. And yeah, slavery was the main cause for then leaving, several of the states literally state it in their secession letters.
At the end of the 'Resulting furry stigma' chapter it reminded me of something The Click during the pandemic and reading Pandemic memes about the Karen stereotype he mentioned basically that if someone didn't wear a mask, he said that he would strongly advise not to but would be fine with someone not wearing a mask If It Only Affected themselves. But it doesn't affect only themselves it affects everyone around them. So I thought that was interesting.
Community responsibility is something good that conservatives strive for and yet the right and far right are the only ones who complained about wearing masks despite the main reason being to protect those around them in their community. I've always found it to be an interesting cognitive dissonance.
Due to the way the suit looked it’s very much possible that he made a copycat suit of the fursuiter Raze and wore it to this year’s free fur all. Old habits die hard I guess
I'm probably more conservative than most in this comments section, but the confederate flag suit is just so goddamn obnoxious and offensive. And the trump sign too? cherry on top of this secondhand embarrassment cake. I hate that it's these kinds of people that represent all conservatives. I'm not even far right, if I'm being honest I hate political extremes.
I live in the south not a native rather a Yankee from the north, but down here you will see black people that have the flag on their cars and outside their house. During a fourth of July event some you boys had both American and Confederate flag and folded them and gave them repsect, there were people of color there and there was no hostility at all and knew it was about the people who died in the war on both sides. You didn't exactly get a choice if you wanted to fight our not as my Irish forefathers found out when they came to America it was off the boat and then into a uniform and then to the front lines, regardless of how you felt otherwise it was a jail cell or possibly worse. The Union and the Confederacy used the same tactics. I to my knowledge have no family that fought on the side of the south . Lived in Mississippi for 6 years and most people of color see that flag every day and there's no arguments no violence. If anything you will see a white southern boy with a Confederate flag shirt pull over to help a little old black lady who's car broke down no joke.
@@SpidaMez i have the feeling that this is a negativity bias? And if it is There’s actually a lot of people in the fandom who think this way (making things worse than they actually are)which ironically makes things worse.
This just goes to show that the furry community is such a mixed bag of good, bad, and everything in between. I dont think you can definitively say its bad but you cant say its good either. They exist in many forms from the innocent to twisted to bizarre like this guy.
At the end of the day freedom of speech and self expression goes both ways as it should. I would personally rather have these people be open about what they think rather than hiding in the shadows. Better we know who the crazies are. Plus, violence is what people turn to in social isolation and nobody wants that escalation.
seal your content is very entertaining and informative. could you do a video on the furry raiders? im looking into it now. but. i would love if you made one. i love your style of commentary. dude your like the furry version of Phillion
I remember that whole time with someone making a bootleg Lemonade suit and causing problems. Didn’t know THIS dude was tied to that AND the chlorine attack! This dude is a disgusting person.
I wonder if he'll be at Free Fur All 2023 with Foxler Nightfire. Addendum: WILL there be a Free Fur All 2023? Hopefully somebody uploads the stand-up comedy and karaoke.
hhiii just wanted to let you know since this is your most recent video, the person your sprites are from, OliveCow, has drawn glornami nsfw and general ship art (two characters that are adoptive sisters, canonically minors, and feral dragons, also saying "they beat each other up because that's how my ships" in a tumblr post which I don't have access to but have a screenshot of) and suggestive art of a 12 year old character (Dib from Invader Zim), with the excuses of they aged the characters up so it was okay, and that she was only 17 at the time of the Dib drawing (it's still up, and so are comments replying positively to others calling it kinky) Their nsfw art has also been found uncensored on google images by a few friends of mine so it's clearly not safe locked behind a nsfw account while I only have her da since I'm not on most of her other sites, here's a few bits of her sfw (ish, don't know if they're doing anything in the second one) and the art of Dib Glornami art is as recent as this year and as far as I know they're still actively posting it on other sites www.deviantart.com/olivecow/art/Theyre-at-a-ball-I-think-960187559 www.deviantart.com/olivecow/art/Underwater-938935591 www.deviantart.com/olivecow/art/nEON-BABYYY-832242967 don't know if the links will work bbut I wanted to let you know because in their own words they don't see any of these things as problematic upon being contacted by somebody I don't know
What’s sadder is that it’s not even the actual confederate flag. It’s Dixie, the Northern Virginian battle flag. As a NoVa person I’m not happy about that.
Im sorry, but i still enjoy jasons art and comics. I may not be a furry nor do i approve of what he and kaiber did. Something in me still loves their art style and especally their porn comics
No need to apologize dude/dudett, regardless of their shty personality, Kabier's art still looks amazing! you just love how it looks and there's no shame in that, separate the great art from the shty artist.
Alright, there's so many things that was in this video that I didn't know about Never heard of Magnus or FreeFurAll.. both are very... crap to see that they exist (I knew about the Neo-Ns tho) And.. Jasonafex? didn't expect that, I remember talking to someone about two years ago who was/still is a friend with them, I knew they had some drama but at this level? All-in-all, thank you for reporting about these things, since I don't really follow news.. not even furry news. All I know about (but barely) is my country's furries
To add fuel into the Jasonafex situation around early winter of 2022 he and Kabier had adapted an relationship triangle with Peacewolf. Peacewolf basically abandon her husband and daughter to go live with not-so-good people, Peacewolf also states that her husband did horrible things by creating a literal walls of text and some pictures she drew that is now infamous for being over-the-top with no supporting evidence on her claims at all. Jasonafex and Kabier do not see anything wrong with that and gladly accepted her in their lives and now they all going to be attending "Free-Fur-all 2023" in Oklahoma USA in less than a few weeks that I am dreading that it will be nothing more than a train wreck in slow motion. There is over a 40 Minute video talking about Jasonafex history around with the fandom by Lanza if you wanna get up to speed. Here's the link if you're curious (ruclips.net/video/yj7OMXGctEI/видео.html).
Rewatching this! I suggest looking into the podcast about the chlorine bomb incident called Fur and loathing. It’s super interesting, respectful, and using actual evidence from law enforcement to investigate
the confederate flag that is shown on the suit just means "im southern" the actual flag looks different and is illegal to display outside of a living space or to even own just to educate some people on the matter
I find it quite funny. The furry community stands for love and acceptance and the love for diversity, therefore it's just so ironic that Magnus is a furry, but also part of a right-winged movement. What a double standard this is!
I'm sorry but I believe in the foundation of this country the bill of rights, I may not like what someone has to say but I'll fight for their right to say it because of freedom of speech. I will however absolutely not condone criminal behavior, harming animals or children or really anyone for that matter.
Not all republican supporters are bad, i am very much republican but I am no means racist or a nazi.. idk, I just got that in thsi fandom, republicans are looked down upon
It's the far left who brand everyone who disagree or have slightly different viewpoint is automatically a racist/fascist or other buzzwords and they are not shy to friendly fire each other, I've seed a far-left calling another far-left a fascist because "He wasn't left enough" and everyone agrees with them because of fear of being cancelled, doxed, send that kind of threats, having they employeers called and spammed to fire them from the job and other methods At this point i don't care if the call me: "insert buzzword here" because you can't reason with fanatics And i used only Far-left because not all left leaning people are this type only far ones
@@Kiefiron The whole Republican supporter being bad thing has to do with both sides, really. As of recent years, we've been seeing far right groups like the Heritage Foundation emerging, and I bet you that there are obviously gonna be right wingers who hate it as much as left wingers.
Unfortunately the current day Republican party is full of racists and homophobes, even if you vote for someone who seems to be moderate that is still giving the party more power.
if it was really about "freedom," as he says, he should've just used the plain old american flag instead also free fur all seems like the absolute worst furry convention out there, with all the terrible people in it
That's sad to hear about 2 the ranting gryphon. He was real big at Anthrocon and Eurofurence about 10 years ago. But given how he used to talk, it's not really that shocking. Just sad.
Personally I wouldn't punch him as I am from the south and the army uses the flag as an unofficial battle flag so my thoughts on confederate flag is conflicted bc the history of the flag is not so wholesome but also on the otherhand symbols will always gain new meaning given time and I want the confederate flag to get a new meaning nothing else fills that most people need something for it to represent bc it happened in canada as far as I can tell so I see no reason for it not to happen else where
Im not a furry. But it just makes me cry laughing the fact he was using a WW1 early german helmet and saying nazi slogans. Just makes me laugh at the fact he doesnt know history very well but most of these people dont.
I mean if you have a habit of ripping off other peoples fursuits there is bound to be a lawsuit ahead, if he gotten into a lawsuit i wouldn't be surprised.
WW1 Germany's only assosiation with the nazzi's is that their loss and the armistis they were forced to sign, laid the political grounds in which a movement like the nazzi's could arrise and florish. If he hadn't been using nazi slogans it should have been fine.
What's wrong with World War I Germany there wasn't much wrong with it especially since the no no mustache guy wasn't in charge and besides all those people already live in Argentina and Chile already and they're completely fine walking around with it I'm half Chilean so I can just say whatever about that just go anywhere in South American you see how corrupt it is and stuff like that but at least that's the Lesser and more wholesome side of it as chili and Argentina the most developed out of all South America
Magnus is *51?!* He doesn't even act that age. I wish that I could get his suits so I could 🔥them whilst singing Union Civil War songs. And besides the Secesh fursuit Magnus wearing the 🇺🇸 at 0:24 is also considered disrespecting the flag. 12:33 Actually, there's more: Crusader Cat committed bestiality when he was 16 and it's disgusting he and his Dylann Roof hairstyle aren't rotting in prison, and the Furry Raiders are also a huge zoo/pedo ring (more not-so-fun facts; 2 Gryphon once made antisemitic remarks and defended child molestation, his boyfriend Rainhopper Roo/Toast the Rabbit was arrested for possessing and receiving obscene images of children, and Cani Lupine also defended child molestation).
A confederate flag fursuit. Wow what a time to be alive
Best fursuit ngl
@@GIockenyou better be joking
@@strangeaelurus you better get under these nuts
@@GIocken jesus christ what the fuck
Wow
Crusader Cat was at Anthrocon this year. They somehow got into the fursuit parade and everyone left a hige gap between them and him so he was walking alone. Literally no one wants anything to do with them.
That's hilarious and fucking sad at the same time. Rightfully deserved.
Congrats. You feel good about being a bully?
@@aevenova9780 Bullying about a fursuiter that have Nazi patches all over him and continue to wear it after many complains about it? How is that being a bully who is wearing something offensives to others?
@@aevenova9780 I will always bully zoophiles and Nazis, yes. They deserve it, and are not welcome in the furry community.
@haaxxx9 the fact you throw the term "nazi" around unironically, gives you zero credibility.
Foxler was creepy even when he was like 15-16. I went to high school with him.
If you are comfortable telling your experience with Foxler please do tell!
Tell us more. It's also disgusting that that prick isn't in prison, he should be rotting there, along with all the other members of that Neo Nazi zoo/pedo ring.
Tell me more
I'm interested in hearing about this. If you're comfortable with telling us like as others have already said.
@@erebosthemogoreg Dude had a laptop that had a lot of krystal porn. Mind you, this was in 2004 - Laptops weren't common.
At the time, the school had 7th graders upstairs. He hears them talking about Starfox and he says "Hey, you like starfox? Check this out!" and shows them what I can only presume is Krystal Porn, based off of the kids' expression.
So yes, he was always a creep!
Words cannot explain how bewildered I am about the fact people like these exist
(Ps, love your content)
Well have you tried getting our your bubble.
@DaBigBoo_ *oh ma gawd*
@@VHS_Serenity bro there are a lot of people who arnt good little lefties
@@DaBigBoo_ yea D:
I am right wing but I wouldn't stoop this low
Annoying orange lasted longer then the confederacy
Military history geek here just to clarify that German style helmet is a so called pickelhaube what was used from 1842 to 1916 so way before ww2 and isn’t actaually a n@zi symbol it also makes me sad that n@zis use it as if it’s theirs even that it isn’t because it’s more a symbol of royalty
I feel the same way about the swastika, it should be known as a symbol of balance not genocide.
As a furry historian it sorta touches my nerve when people confuse WW1 Germany and WW2 Germany.
WW1 Germany = German Empire.
WW2 Germany = N#&+ Germany
who asked?
@@AliceAWilson
I asked.
@@AliceAWilson spreading facts and no misinformation about historical symbols but someone who’s as ignorant as you wouldn’t understand
I absolutely love your style of video making I just have to say. your PNG tube icons are striking, the animation is very smooth, the editing is top-notch. Great work on your presentation, has a lot of polish and professionalism.
Thank you so much!
@@Clappedsealcan you summon seals by clapping?
@RubberDuck-nj4lg he does anything he's told too. Claps like a mindless seal.
@Clappedseal you do know compared to the confederacy,the ww1 helmet is not nearly as bad as your making it sound
@@Fanwithnbladeshe knows, that helmet was accepted after he tried the WW2 ones and some had SS markings.
This mf is 51?? I thought he was like 17 💀
WHO CLAPP?
NO LOL MAGNUS
I'm not surprised this guy is a middle aged man child tbh
@@DystopianOverture that was a good one 😆🤣
He's half a century old ngl
As a furry myself, I now think that this is why we are looked down upon. Good video btw.
the world is never all ways good
I think it's the open degeneracy and pedophilia that makes people dislike furries tbh with you.
I agree
Frrrrr
good, now that ya finally fuckin' realized it, start fixing it
This is why people who are in the furry fandom (the sfw side) don't like being called furries.
I lean more on the nsfw side but even there I am not surprised many look down upon us.
@@ryanthemostwantedfurry1281same
@@ryanthemostwantedfurry1281tf
@@kiroden358it's their choice, don't look so deep into it otherwise it's eye searing and burns into your mental image.
@@ryanthemostwantedfurry1281 same
The only acceptable places to have that flag are museums and civil war reenactments anywhere else and it's just like what the fuck
eh, i disagree. considering the fact that that flag in particular is a battle flag, lots of people i know hang it up in their house as a relic and memorial. I do agree its unacceptable to wear it around though
Because first amendment does not exist…
@louisc6687 What does the Confederate battle flag have to do with religion?!?
Wait nevermind first amendment is also press and speech and stuff
Techinally, it was the battle flag, so it could be used as a memorial to a southerner’s ancestors
Freedom to what. -puts on a goose fursuit-
Also i'm glad you covered him copying Lemonade; I knew them a bit personally and Magnus doing that, well. Sent a few of us a certain way. Some of us somehow talked some sense into him, or he got tried of hearing people complain about it, but either way he did end up destroying the copy.. and turning it into the flag suit, lol.
Aflac
Aflac
AFLAAAACC!!!
Cute how you pretend to care. Make yourself feel like you matter. How's that workin?
@@aevenova9780 Wow, you seem really upset, do you wanna talk about it?
@@mander1236Clappedseal thinks "all lives matter" is racist! 😂😂😂 lolol.
Ya can't take whackdoodles like this seriously!
@@aevenova9780Uhm... Wow. Would you care to have a talk with us on this?
I mean compared to the first suit the ww1 German themed suit is No where near as bad. But if it was a ww2 my opinion would be different
Agreed.
the german ww1 soldiers were not evil. they were just stupid young men who lived through hell for a shitty worthless war that ended nothing. just like all the other soldiers.
the problem is he was yelling WW2 phrases while wearing it, so erases any concept he wasn't using it for a non-racial reason.
THANK YOU!
I had seen this suit all over google and such, and i always wondered who the tard was behind it, but i never really dug deeper. this explained it really well with great detail, and without being a whole unbearable hour long, you deserve my subscription.
so you are going to call out a bigot, use a slur, and use a heart emoticon in one comment?
@@personman2346 sure, if you have a problem with it then just ignore it.
@@finnqueenston Just, saying quite a contridiction, have a feeling that guy didn't like neurodivergent people either
@@personman2346 i am literally neurodivergent. if you are offended, feel free to ignore my comment. “slurs” are just words society decided are going to be offensive and i find that dumb, i have every right to say them, especially since i can reclaim
@@finnqueenston Not everyone wants to reclaim it, and you can't speak for every neurodivergent person. If someone says you shouldn't use it, at least recognize that they would prefer you didn't around them.
it’d be different if magnus's suit was just the same color scheme of a confederate flag, rather then being themed after a confederate flag.
there are so many flags with that color scheme, but he made it specifically after that flag
@@wubbinz exactly my point
@@hatcher365 yes
It's a controversial suit for sure but it has some good design. The ears are designed to look like horns from behind, but body is soft and cute. His expression is grumpy and upset yet altogether harmless.
@@MrObsvenchilde leaving out the flag it looks like a well designed suit and decent quality. Shame that it's ruined by the lunatics bigoted views and that damn flag.
To see racism in the furry community is truly something special. And by special, I mean downright weird and disgusting
To see furries defending kid didlers and wearing their flag is disgusting too
It’s more common than you think
Racism in the furry community is not as absurd as drinking in Islam. The former is possible
The furry fandom is a microcosm of the non-furry world. Everything that you can find in non-furries, you can find in some dusty, dark corner of the fandom. Every kink furries have started in kink and/or fictokink communities before furries were a thing. Racism, bigotry, hatred? Check, all of the above. There aren't a lot of these, but Free Fur All is definitely the convention most of them seem to be attracted to. The con claims to be anti-politics, but what they seem to mean is "anti-wokeness" (there's that nebulous term again-- woke-- which detractors seem to pin down as, "I can't define it, but I think I know it when I see it").
It's crazy.... the woke hate mob hates white people. There's been so much anti-whiteism going on.
By putting a white cloth over it he was wearing two confederate flags at once
OH SNAPPPPPP 😂😂😂
2:37 the helmet should be ok as Germany In WW1 wasn't Nazi Germany but the thing he said was wrong.
Hey, historian here. I just wanna say some things, though please know that I still love this video! Firstly, that isn't the Confederate flag. That is the Dixie flag, which was the battle flag of the Confederacy up until it's demise in 1865. Also, that WW1 German hat is called a pickelhaube, and it isn't as bad as you think. The German Empire was actually not that bad of a place, and was honestly, in my personal opinion, the best form of Germany in history. I hope I cleared some things up for you!
Can't imitation fursuiters get sued for copyright infringement? In the United States, whenever you make a work of art, you're automatically the copyright holder. This would include suits.
I would think so myself. I mean, I wouldn't be okay with someone else making a copy suit of my Erebos suit! I'd try my damnedest to take them down unless we come to terms.
After hearing the stories behind this guy and his suit I’m thinking he might’ve been behind the gassing of mff 2014 after he was kicked out and banned from the con
its very easy to make chlorine gas. like accident easy. but he is definetly a compatible suspect. my guess is they mixed two chemical cleaners inside the jar and smashed it in the stairwell, and cleaners could easily be smuggled into the convention (if they werent sourced from within)
@@wubbinz true but I’m think he might’ve had a accomplice in this undertaking but then another thought came to mind he wasn’t banded from the event till the year after I believe, but what if it was him who else would do such a horrible deed to not just the furry guests but to the normal people staying at the hotel
@@tanthis24 most extreme anti furries
I think he played a part in it. I don't think he did this alone.
When clappedseal uploads, it makes a good day a great day :3
Imagine representing a flag that lossed in a war about slavery (and representing the side all for slavery)
funny enough, that flag is the battle flag for the Confederate states of America, the real flag is completely different.
Wasn't about slavery, drop the brainwashing. They don't fucking teach you anything worth shit in US schools anymore.
yep it's the flag of racist losers
@@SpidaMezit’s largely understood and intended as a confederate flag
This has nothing to do with the vid but that's incorrect the war was over unpaid taxes for having slaves
My stance on right vs left is this:
You can be on the right just dont be become an extremist.
You can be on the left just dont be an extremist.
When you go too far either direction you lose the plot.
Extreme right = Racists
Extreme left = Every one is a bigot period.
Listen to each side and talk it out.
A closed mind is a wonderful thing to lose.
Im not a furry but I am sure my point can be applied to just about everything and all fan bases.
Maybe not these guys but still...
or just be neutral and have beliefs from both
@@Smoke.stardustmore sensible take on the whole political crap going on today, I’d say my views are neutral and my beliefs come from both sides.
this sounds more like a caricature of the left and is in no way equal to a racist right winger. Bigotry exists and is a real problem, ppl calling other bigots, not so much.
@@shawnsmith8558ok then, you can live the rest of your life thinking every single person is a racist bigot with a victem mentality all day being terminainally online with twitter as the only source of having some sort of social life
Far left and far right people are so annoying. They argue and argue all day, getting nowhere. People who actually have a level-headed debate are people i can respect
I was almost his roommate (not for cons, actual living) He threatened to R word me, then got made I didnt wanna move in last minute to him SAYING THIS TO ME.
I hope he didn't get a roommate at all
As someone who knew Braxton I was so confused when I saw photos of the knockoff suit floating around, because Braxton is in Switzerland.
every time i see clappy post about some one controversial i HAVE to watch it. i cant not go a day without watching this channel same thing wtih lanza as well both you guys are just so good with the content
I bet this man spams shit like “WHATS A KILOMETER!???!??!!!! 🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🎆🎇🎇🎆🎆🎇🎆”
Looking at his fursona, the German language has a word that perfectly describes it. Backpfeifengesicht or punchable face. And I mean this as solely looking at the face of his fursuit.
Of course this guy is from Arkansas, Arkansas is pretty much southern Ohio at this point.
Magnus is actually from Pennsylvania, "Arkansas" is the name of his Confederate suit, which makes no sense as it was the Northern Virginia army that had that awful design.
good thing it's not an actual shit hole like California.
OlveCow PNG Tuber is adorable!! Makes the rest of this so far more palatable lol
I was at MFF when he made the run down the corridor to main events while holding that flag. I heard from multiple furries that once he got there. He was drenched with soda.
This is the first time ive ever heard this story and his name, his fursuit used to be a meme on my friends discord server for a few years because we thought it was awful. This guy is just as nuts as his suit.
Why am I not surprised that a controversial figure has a criminal record
Because usually people like this are likely to have done something that is incriminating.
but he only served 8 months so the nature of his crimes is greatly exaggerated or he would have served more time
@@MrObsvenchilde Consider that the justice system is also not as punishing as it should be to some people and people who did drugs are punished more while others who did worse are let back out.... We should remember that is unfortunately a thing...
Seal, your fursona is so adorable and cute
As a non-furry this feels like an inevitably do to the over politicization of the subculture. I mean, the end kinda tells it all. The comparison was with a political philosophy and not a subculture with or without sex. The comparison was feminism, not BDSM or Pokémon. If something gets steeped in politics expect to get the Nazi and Commies on either end ignoring their respective atrocities. And where in nonpolitical spaces one can just throw them out for being off topic or clown on them, here one has to address them. When political discourse is opened it legitimizes political expression in the community.
PS To the creator, it is best these people to have an outlet regardless of your favorability to their ideologies. These people would still be in your community with their beliefs without these public outlets. Magnus would still believe what he believes but be making more copycat costumes while letting his views fester. And as history shows, without these outlets these ideologies can maneuver to more subversive means. It's best to let these type of people out themselves and use sunlight to disinfect as you've done in this video.
Another great vid Clappedseal!
A go-fund-me to bail that guy out would be an interesting way to get a list of people to keep an eye on in case of more instances of this. But I don't think go-fund-me can do that without legal reasons like if a murder was funded. But suspicion of a literal terrorist attack at a furry convention and the prevention of future incidents would have been enough to get that info.
People have the freedom to vote left/middle/right depending on their beliefs yes so I wouldn't fault that at all. Same with if they have a religion or not they are free to have religious beliefs.
However, impersonation, racism etc are big no nos (pretty disgusting imo) and I hope that's just a few people vs the idea it's a whole con of that because that would be scary. He's certainly grabbing the wrong attention.
From what I heard the con was just like any other but with different host in set panels.
I disagree. You have the right to not let him into a con, but there's nothing illegal about being "offensive". It's only a crime when there's a "call-to-action", a.k.a. inciting riot; not that that stopped any antifa furs from destroying neighborhoods and cities.
None of these so-called "supremacists" have tossed a molotov on a struggling immigrant's business in almost 60 years. Seen plenty of leftists do that, though. Selective sympathy from you people.
I hope I can clear something up. The confederate flag is not racist unless being used in a racist way. Otherwise it is just the flag of the south. But I do agree that political views should not be brought into the fandom
Right!
As someone in the Deep South, it is not the flag of the South. It's just saying "lemme out of America." No wonder it failed after 4 years
As someone from the deep south, it represents traitors who thankfully lost. And yeah, slavery was the main cause for then leaving, several of the states literally state it in their secession letters.
Watch and knew there would be drooling kids saying 'FIRST IM FIRST I HAVE POWAH' I despise people that do this.
That's still going on? I thought that died out months ago.
@@DPAnime1415 IT NEVER EVER DIES OUT, Because people think they achieved something or something that's rare or they think it just gives them power.
@@Taurus_. I used to do but I stopped because it got cringey to me
the suit just makes him look like a cartoon villian, espcially the head thing.
At the end of the 'Resulting furry stigma' chapter it reminded me of something The Click during the pandemic and reading Pandemic memes about the Karen stereotype he mentioned basically that if someone didn't wear a mask, he said that he would strongly advise not to but would be fine with someone not wearing a mask If It Only Affected themselves. But it doesn't affect only themselves it affects everyone around them. So I thought that was interesting.
Community responsibility is something good that conservatives strive for and yet the right and far right are the only ones who complained about wearing masks despite the main reason being to protect those around them in their community. I've always found it to be an interesting cognitive dissonance.
Due to the way the suit looked it’s very much possible that he made a copycat suit of the fursuiter Raze and wore it to this year’s free fur all. Old habits die hard I guess
I'm probably more conservative than most in this comments section, but the confederate flag suit is just so goddamn obnoxious and offensive. And the trump sign too? cherry on top of this secondhand embarrassment cake. I hate that it's these kinds of people that represent all conservatives. I'm not even far right, if I'm being honest I hate political extremes.
This guy is like Chickens for kfc, no sense of cognitive dissonance whatsoever
11:21 You meant Feral? Trust me. I tortured myself by digging into that comic. It's more like Anthro Feral smutfest.
I live in the south not a native rather a Yankee from the north, but down here you will see black people that have the flag on their cars and outside their house. During a fourth of July event some you boys had both American and Confederate flag and folded them and gave them repsect, there were people of color there and there was no hostility at all and knew it was about the people who died in the war on both sides. You didn't exactly get a choice if you wanted to fight our not as my Irish forefathers found out when they came to America it was off the boat and then into a uniform and then to the front lines, regardless of how you felt otherwise it was a jail cell or possibly worse. The Union and the Confederacy used the same tactics. I to my knowledge have no family that fought on the side of the south . Lived in Mississippi for 6 years and most people of color see that flag every day and there's no arguments no violence. If anything you will see a white southern boy with a Confederate flag shirt pull over to help a little old black lady who's car broke down no joke.
Just why!?
JUST WHY!!!
The furry fandom don't need people like this.
oh well. Just hope things don't get wors!
don't worry.
it will get worse.
@@manboy4720yeah, ppl on Twitter are arguing whether animal private parts are hot or not. It's already gotten worse.
Im sorry to burst your bubble, but the furry fandom is loaded with ppl like this lmfao.
@@strangeaelurus haven’t seen that.
@@SpidaMez i have the feeling that this is a negativity bias? And if it is There’s actually a lot of people in the fandom who think this way (making things worse than they actually are)which ironically makes things worse.
I saw the jasonafex related video you edited, good editing :)
Just a fraction of why the furry fandom is in ruins.
Also, I love your PNG character so much, the art style is so fun and colorful. 💖✨
This just goes to show that the furry community is such a mixed bag of good, bad, and everything in between. I dont think you can definitively say its bad but you cant say its good either. They exist in many forms from the innocent to twisted to bizarre like this guy.
That's just humanity, its gonna be like this any and every where and any fandom/community.
As a furry whose intersted in ww1 it disgust me that this furry is ruining ww1 helmets
When I first saw the thumbnail I was like “ok maybe it’s a coincidence” but then the back of the suit was revealed 😭💀
3 minutes ago? this'll be a good one
babe, new clappedseal video just dropped.
2:35 not trying to defend him but the helmet has nothing to do with nazis, it was used way before they even existed
That's pretty funny. You can really appreciate the irony.
Furries celebrate everyone being their true selves. Unless youre this guy.
At the end of the day freedom of speech and self expression goes both ways as it should. I would personally rather have these people be open about what they think rather than hiding in the shadows. Better we know who the crazies are. Plus, violence is what people turn to in social isolation and nobody wants that escalation.
No shot his fursuit’s name is Arkansas. That is offensive to an Arkansas, considering I’m one. What the heck!
you forgot to link Len Gilbert and his dissident furs to the FFA scandal, i have a lead on this to where hes linked directly to Foxler himmself
Great. One furry can ruin our whole community.
The Annoying Orange lasted longer than the confederacy.
seal your content is very entertaining and informative. could you do a video on the furry raiders? im looking into it now. but. i would love if you made one. i love your style of commentary. dude your like the furry version of Phillion
2:38 here, for you who don't know, the helmet is German
I remember that whole time with someone making a bootleg Lemonade suit and causing problems. Didn’t know THIS dude was tied to that AND the chlorine attack!
This dude is a disgusting person.
I wonder if he'll be at Free Fur All 2023 with Foxler Nightfire.
Addendum: WILL there be a Free Fur All 2023? Hopefully somebody uploads the stand-up comedy and karaoke.
Some days, I understand why people hate furries. This is one of those days.
hhiii just wanted to let you know since this is your most recent video, the person your sprites are from, OliveCow, has drawn glornami nsfw and general ship art (two characters that are adoptive sisters, canonically minors, and feral dragons, also saying "they beat each other up because that's how my ships" in a tumblr post which I don't have access to but have a screenshot of) and suggestive art of a 12 year old character (Dib from Invader Zim), with the excuses of they aged the characters up so it was okay, and that she was only 17 at the time of the Dib drawing (it's still up, and so are comments replying positively to others calling it kinky)
Their nsfw art has also been found uncensored on google images by a few friends of mine so it's clearly not safe locked behind a nsfw account
while I only have her da since I'm not on most of her other sites, here's a few bits of her sfw (ish, don't know if they're doing anything in the second one) and the art of Dib
Glornami art is as recent as this year and as far as I know they're still actively posting it on other sites
www.deviantart.com/olivecow/art/Theyre-at-a-ball-I-think-960187559
www.deviantart.com/olivecow/art/Underwater-938935591
www.deviantart.com/olivecow/art/nEON-BABYYY-832242967
don't know if the links will work bbut I wanted to let you know because in their own words they don't see any of these things as problematic upon being contacted by somebody I don't know
also apologies if you don't like to be contacted this way I have no clue how you do, I'm just a casual viewer
10:10 Eggman
Eggman really fell off huh
Very very good video, i understand why your popular. You did your research and it showed!
Furry Homelander
UwU
What’s sadder is that it’s not even the actual confederate flag. It’s Dixie, the Northern Virginian battle flag. As a NoVa person I’m not happy about that.
Bro could've been even more offensive and have an eagle fursona lol imagine.
Im sorry, but i still enjoy jasons art and comics. I may not be a furry nor do i approve of what he and kaiber did. Something in me still loves their art style and especally their porn comics
No need to apologize dude/dudett, regardless of their shty personality, Kabier's art still looks amazing! you just love how it looks and there's no shame in that, separate the great art from the shty artist.
Alright, there's so many things that was in this video that I didn't know about
Never heard of Magnus or FreeFurAll.. both are very... crap to see that they exist (I knew about the Neo-Ns tho)
And.. Jasonafex? didn't expect that, I remember talking to someone about two years ago who was/still is a friend with them, I knew they had some drama but at this level?
All-in-all, thank you for reporting about these things, since I don't really follow news.. not even furry news.
All I know about (but barely) is my country's furries
To add fuel into the Jasonafex situation around early winter of 2022 he and Kabier had adapted an relationship triangle with Peacewolf. Peacewolf basically abandon her husband and daughter to go live with not-so-good people, Peacewolf also states that her husband did horrible things by creating a literal walls of text and some pictures she drew that is now infamous for being over-the-top with no supporting evidence on her claims at all. Jasonafex and Kabier do not see anything wrong with that and gladly accepted her in their lives and now they all going to be attending "Free-Fur-all 2023" in Oklahoma USA in less than a few weeks that I am dreading that it will be nothing more than a train wreck in slow motion. There is over a 40 Minute video talking about Jasonafex history around with the fandom by Lanza if you wanna get up to speed. Here's the link if you're curious (ruclips.net/video/yj7OMXGctEI/видео.html).
I swear i've seen him with the confederate flag suit at Eurofurence this year...
As someone from the south. I hate that flag.
Based south hate of the flag
Same
Rewatching this! I suggest looking into the podcast about the chlorine bomb incident called Fur and loathing. It’s super interesting, respectful, and using actual evidence from law enforcement to investigate
Ppl be mean to random furries, but not him?
the confederate flag that is shown on the suit just means "im southern" the actual flag looks different and is illegal to display outside of a living space or to even own just to educate some people on the matter
Georgia uses the real flag as a base
I find it quite funny. The furry community stands for love and acceptance and the love for diversity, therefore it's just so ironic that Magnus is a furry, but also part of a right-winged movement. What a double standard this is!
That suit was clearly made for shock value.
his suit looks so badly made bruh did he use craft store fur
I'm sorry but I believe in the foundation of this country the bill of rights, I may not like what someone has to say but I'll fight for their right to say it because of freedom of speech. I will however absolutely not condone criminal behavior, harming animals or children or really anyone for that matter.
Not all republican supporters are bad, i am very much republican but I am no means racist or a nazi.. idk, I just got that in thsi fandom, republicans are looked down upon
It's the far left who brand everyone who disagree or have slightly different viewpoint is automatically a racist/fascist or other buzzwords and they are not shy to friendly fire each other, I've seed a far-left calling another far-left a fascist because "He wasn't left enough" and everyone agrees with them because of fear of being cancelled, doxed, send that kind of threats, having they employeers called and spammed to fire them from the job and other methods
At this point i don't care if the call me: "insert buzzword here" because you can't reason with fanatics
And i used only Far-left because not all left leaning people are this type only far ones
@Kiefiron if you don't vote for me, you ain't black! 😂 (Joe Biden)
@@Kiefiron The whole Republican supporter being bad thing has to do with both sides, really. As of recent years, we've been seeing far right groups like the Heritage Foundation emerging, and I bet you that there are obviously gonna be right wingers who hate it as much as left wingers.
Unfortunately the current day Republican party is full of racists and homophobes, even if you vote for someone who seems to be moderate that is still giving the party more power.
ah yes. The infamous Confederate flag suiter
Rac**t my favorite species
if it was really about "freedom," as he says, he should've just used the plain old american flag instead
also free fur all seems like the absolute worst furry convention out there, with all the terrible people in it
That's sad to hear about 2 the ranting gryphon. He was real big at Anthrocon and Eurofurence about 10 years ago. But given how he used to talk, it's not really that shocking. Just sad.
Really?
saying nazi stuff in a ww1 german costume is the definition of an edgy 12 year olds humor
im not even surprised about the whole insane furry stuff but DAMN???????????? nowai this person did all of that without feeling embarrassed
ah so he is like an edgy teen
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN!
But in his 50's if I herd that right in this video. "Way too old!" to be doing dumb and foolish shit is an understatement.
@@haaxxx9 some people never grow out of their edgy teen years.
Personally I wouldn't punch him as I am from the south and the army uses the flag as an unofficial battle flag so my thoughts on confederate flag is conflicted bc the history of the flag is not so wholesome but also on the otherhand symbols will always gain new meaning given time and I want the confederate flag to get a new meaning nothing else fills that most people need something for it to represent bc it happened in canada as far as I can tell so I see no reason for it not to happen else where
Im not a furry. But it just makes me cry laughing the fact he was using a WW1 early german helmet and saying nazi slogans. Just makes me laugh at the fact he doesnt know history very well but most of these people dont.
I mean if you have a habit of ripping off other peoples fursuits there is bound to be a lawsuit ahead, if he gotten into a lawsuit i wouldn't be surprised.
As a furry I'm glad the community collectively banned him from everything lol
He's 51! Explains a lot!
Dude some people are just sick degenerates forever and ever.
Thats a harsh way to talk about gay furrys
@@DaBigBoo_ Most of these people are straight
@@dragonscalie Ironically that's just too funny!
WW1 Germany's only assosiation with the nazzi's is that their loss and the armistis they were forced to sign, laid the political grounds in which a movement like the nazzi's could arrise and florish.
If he hadn't been using nazi slogans it should have been fine.
What's wrong with World War I Germany there wasn't much wrong with it especially since the no no mustache guy wasn't in charge and besides all those people already live in Argentina and Chile already and they're completely fine walking around with it I'm half Chilean so I can just say whatever about that just go anywhere in South American you see how corrupt it is and stuff like that but at least that's the Lesser and more wholesome side of it as chili and Argentina the most developed out of all South America
Magnus is *51?!* He doesn't even act that age. I wish that I could get his suits so I could 🔥them whilst singing Union Civil War songs. And besides the Secesh fursuit Magnus wearing the 🇺🇸 at 0:24 is also considered disrespecting the flag.
12:33 Actually, there's more: Crusader Cat committed bestiality when he was 16 and it's disgusting he and his Dylann Roof hairstyle aren't rotting in prison, and the Furry Raiders are also a huge zoo/pedo ring (more not-so-fun facts; 2 Gryphon once made antisemitic remarks and defended child molestation, his boyfriend Rainhopper Roo/Toast the Rabbit was arrested for possessing and receiving obscene images of children, and Cani Lupine also defended child molestation).