Ambient Guitar: Stereo vs Mono | Which is Better?

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @DVTOM
    @DVTOM 4 года назад +1

    I've played through a split system. two outputs (1-distorted guitar and 1 Piezo) Two amps two complete rigs. One guitar with stereo
    outputs. I used both Mono and Stereo on stage. Makes for some interesting sounds live. Great video and explanation.

  • @jammergreg
    @jammergreg 3 года назад +3

    I play in a duo with just guitar and bass and drum machine. Playin stereo has really opened up our duo to sound like a full band! We do small venues and I separate the amps by about 3 feet.

  • @timbaugh1944
    @timbaugh1944 4 года назад +13

    I have a Roland Jazz Chorus stereo amp which is cool - I tend to create soundscapes and therefore play stereo either through my amp or an old Line 6 rack with stereo FX loop. I think if you're in a band with bass, drums, keyboards etc then mono maybe the way to go. As you rightly say it depends what you're trying to achieve. Great vid Bill.

  • @nigelrayner6282
    @nigelrayner6282 4 года назад +4

    Assuming you are recording solo, the answer is you need both! Ambient swells, drones and pads sound so much better in stereo. However, if you play everything in stereo, you are at the mercy of the pedals for the mix. You can't control placement in the stereo field, so if you play everything in stereo, it can get muddy pretty quick. Lead lines in particular can get lost and create too much "wash" that overlaps with the pads/drones. IMO the best approach is to be able to combine wide stereo washes with more "down the middle" lead lines. IMO it's best to have some mono pedals feeding into your stereo pedals. You can use the mono pedals to create "down the middle" leads and use the stereo pedals when you want wide, wash-like sounds. A TC Mimiq gives you even more flexibility if you insert one of those between your mono and stereo pedals.

  • @treyvisqueux7973
    @treyvisqueux7973 4 года назад +44

    I was skeptical about going stereo till I gave it a try -- I've never looked back.

    • @shadowspectrum
      @shadowspectrum 4 года назад +4

      The first time you plug your stereo delay into two amps it all just clicks. I agree, could never go back to a single amp and am even considering adding another for a wet/dry/wet rig.

    • @user-wv5gv3dw5u
      @user-wv5gv3dw5u 3 года назад

      I wanna try but I just dont understand how to do it

    • @treyvisqueux7973
      @treyvisqueux7973 3 года назад

      @@user-wv5gv3dw5uWith a stereo delay you just run the left output into one amp, the right into another. It’s really quite magical!

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 3 года назад

      @@user-wv5gv3dw5u Easy, get a stereo pedal (or a few) and plug the outputs into two amps. Stereo delays and reverbs are the business. Mono in from the guitar gets turned into stereo. It's a trip. You'll never want to play in mono again.

  • @lightnintrucker
    @lightnintrucker 4 года назад +7

    Stereo all the way! Many of my delays, reverbs and choruses are stereo. I play through 2 Fender Blues Junior Amps. But fer my acoustic side of things, currently I play mono. But I do plan to snag another acoustic amp and go stereo there too.

  • @johncbeer
    @johncbeer 4 года назад +3

    Imho, stereo all day long, as it works so well with these two ears most of us have been blessed with. As for playing well with others, proper EQ for the entire band will be way more effective at preventing your stereo sound taking over than a mono signal will. If each instrument and vocal is EQd differently, all should be swell. I do however love the occasional pan, if your sound person knows how to ride a board. Love the sounds you create! Keep doing what you do!

  • @joebooleymusic
    @joebooleymusic 4 года назад +16

    I got the Roland JC-40 which would allow me to run a stereo rig. As a solo artist I ran Stereo Guitar, plus a Bass line from my submarine pick up in the middle. But now, even in a band I run stereo through the JC-40 as me and the other guitarist have very different sounds which makes it work.

  • @jurimusic
    @jurimusic 4 года назад

    This video inspired me to wire my new live looping pedalboard in stereo and now it sounds amazing. I have Mobius and El Capistan and they really shine in stereo setup. Thanks!

  • @adpitts1
    @adpitts1 4 года назад +1

    I always strive to be appropriate for the musical situation. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience!

  • @michaelmattson3515
    @michaelmattson3515 4 года назад +2

    I use a dry amp with a bit of reverb then split from the FX loop out to stereo FX’s to a stereo mosfet power amp to two 12” cabs. I use a mono male/female Y cable to bridge the amps FX loop in /out. I use a 3” patch cable on one of the female ends to plug into the FX return. Then a 10’ cable to the other female end to my stereo FX.

  • @Oatsrock
    @Oatsrock 4 года назад +1

    if you are the only guitar def stereo- but if you use a ton of effects wet/dry/wet is even better! (esp nice w in ear monitors..)

  • @tfilmyr
    @tfilmyr 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for putting it in that perspective. Always loved stereo chorus and all that jazz (snicker), but you're right about mixing for a good stereo field on recordings.

  • @theliberation9061
    @theliberation9061 4 года назад +12

    One thing I'd like to add - I love using delays and reverbs in an "atmospheric" metal/rock context, and I think both have a place depending on the use.
    A mono delay down the center makes it sound like something far away, while you may have regular rhythm guitars pounding left and right as if right next to you. Stereo delay makes the whole thing sound massive, but also a little more distant, "up there". Depending on the context, one or the other may be better and sound more glorious.

  • @ssiowi
    @ssiowi 2 года назад

    Excellent presentation of possible answers to a question of significance in this genre. Years ago, listened to Robin Guthrie in a small Portland, OR club perform with his stereo rig. Same too with Adrian Belew fronting his Power Trio. The results; stereo added to the listening experience in the hands of these pros. Me in the home studio--Helix / Mackie XLRs / FRFR monitors--not so much as I spent more time on the tech and less time with performance and voicing choices. Thanks for sharing your views on a topic so useful--in the hands of masters--to Ambient. Happy '23!

  • @josephkim6892
    @josephkim6892 Год назад

    This is an excellent demonstration for what stereo effects actually sound like. Even on my phone speakers, the sound is completely transformed. One thing that might be useful is to maybe explain how you have the routing setup for stereo (ie are you using 2 amps, 2 pa speakers, etc?)

  • @simondavis3467
    @simondavis3467 4 года назад +2

    I use a HX stomp going thru 2 x Boss Katana amps. I've used a stereo set up for the last 20 yrs or so using various combos before this.

  • @Kennethswoodcarvings
    @Kennethswoodcarvings Год назад +1

    My sound is clean. Take for example when you listen to any Slow Blues Like Whisky Blues. Can you give me some hints on what set up would be best for this?

  • @dfhomemadestudio
    @dfhomemadestudio 10 месяцев назад

    Congratulations, fantastic, amazing video, play and explanation ❤

  • @darrellminx5459
    @darrellminx5459 Год назад

    Very good demo. Answered my questions well. Thank you very much. Cheers from Hawaii

  • @elliottpereda5724
    @elliottpereda5724 4 года назад +4

    Just have a Three piece band and you will fill up entirely with stereo. 👍🏼 for me, I’m actually more proud of being Mono, because, I want my own guitar area to be captured more defined for the crowd, While Stereo can be addictive but, a nightmare to put an amp all over the place and be in such tight spot.

  • @aliveandfilming2
    @aliveandfilming2 3 года назад

    I'm about to complete my childhood dream lol I'm running my delta blues dry , but sending its signal to my stereo rig / wet side . Your nux delay pedal review really helped , as I'm in the market for a stereo delay for my wet side .... It will then go through my Bbe 422 sonic maximizer and a peavey classic 60/60 into 2 4x10" marshall cabinet...... a Frankenstein of a set up but it should keep the integrity of my tone . I drive when needed with a ts9 and a rackmount real tube 2 .
    Love your video bud

  • @MrSagarvarule
    @MrSagarvarule Год назад

    When I plugged my guitar in stereo my Ears changed...it took me to a different universe and it changed me as a player and I feel more connected to my heart n Guitar

  • @michaelinglis567
    @michaelinglis567 4 года назад +1

    I'm down to one amp right now (A Marshall DSL100HR) cause I sold my practice amp for other gear but I'm using two Orange PPC 1X12's spread apart about 4-5 feet. Which sounds much much better than a 2x12 or stacked 1x12's in my opinion but it certainly would be better in stereo. I've considered building (I build pedals and do guitar and pedal mods constantly) another small tube amp or buying a quality orange solid state amp so I could use one cab per amp and run in true stereo.

  • @santiagovanegas3812
    @santiagovanegas3812 3 года назад +2

    Personally, I'd love to go stereo. In addition to the added expense you describe, there's also the added space required for that second amp. And, two amps are louder than one. I play guitar at home. Keeping my 20 watt tube amp volume down for the sake of my family and neighbors is already a bit of a challenge. Add a second amp to that will make taming the volume even more difficult. I just might have to do it someday though... ;) Great videos!

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 3 года назад

      That's why Bill uses modeling I think. one of these pedals that does amp and cab modeling sitting before your time based effects makes amps redundant. I'm running two Hotrod Deluxe IIIs though so I hear what you're saying, two of those is pretty hard to tame. I tend to turn all my pedals way down to try and tame the amps as the volume controls are barely controllable, with almost all the available adjustment between 2 and 3. Problems arise when I accidentally don't engage my compressor when I don't have a dirt pedal to turn things down, and the extremely high powered single coils I use suddenly have unhindered access to my amps and my window panes try to jump out of their frames.

    • @alexmurphy5289
      @alexmurphy5289 3 года назад +1

      Jazz chorus 22

  • @joeyclamz2408
    @joeyclamz2408 4 года назад

    I played a live solo "semi-ambient" gig a few months back and did the whole thing in stereo with a plain electric straight through a Specular Tempus and into a Cab Zeus stereo DI into a small mixer and PA, no other processing. I was told it sounded fantastic. I think the smaller the venue the better. The larger your audience and venue, the less "balanced" stereo effect your audience will get simply because of positioning.

  • @davestarns
    @davestarns 4 года назад

    I’ve run some version of a stereo rig (most often with two amps) since I bought a JC120 in the 80s. Currently, I run either a Fractal Axe-FX II into a pair of QSC K8s, or a Helix into a Line 6 Powercab. One advantage of those two systems is that the degree to which the sound is heard in stereo can vary from patch to patch. So if I’m playing an Angus Young kind of part, it sounds very mono, very focused; yes, it’s still in “stereo,” but the mono amp is just panned center. And during a ballad, where I want something lush, it allows for that.

  • @doklgab
    @doklgab 4 года назад

    Well, you said it all starting around 6:15 : as a solo artist it's hard not to want to be stereo, but in a band, mono sources are often preferable. Same thing for keyboards I guess.

  • @Mordred478
    @Mordred478 4 года назад +1

    Bill, I have recently acquired a stereo guitar, and I also own the Strymon Lex stereo rotary speaker emulator. My goal now is to run the stereo guitar into the Lex, and send each of the Lex's outputs to a separate amp, allowing me to drown in trippy Leslie-esque wonderfulness, especially after I drench the guitar in chorus. Have you done something like this and do you have any pointers?

  • @NovotnyJohny
    @NovotnyJohny 4 года назад

    Thanks to your videos, I switched to stereo rig and I enjoy it so much. Although I have two different amplifiers (Bugera nad VOX) it sounds incredible.
    Thank you for opening up a new dimension of my sound.

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  4 года назад

      Cool! I should have mentioned that using 2 different amps is a common practice for stereo players.

    • @NovotnyJohny
      @NovotnyJohny 4 года назад

      @@chordsoforion Indeed. It took me a few hours to set up amps to sound similar. On the other hand, the differend sounds of amps can bring an interisting results. I´ll try it out today. With stereo set up there are so many new possibilities... Endless sound experimentation. Once more thank you for inspiration you gave me. Greetings from Czech republic

  • @garretteverett2613
    @garretteverett2613 4 года назад +7

    Stereo is a fantastic way to fill space, but it has tons of other benefits. Being able to run pedals into two amps, each with their own FX loop, can create new sonic realms to explore. I split my guitar between a clean bass amp and a guitar amp that's loaded with delays, reverb and a flanger, giving me awesome clean bottom end with a huge wet signal.

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  4 года назад

      very good additional reasons to consider stereo!

    • @TC_Conner
      @TC_Conner 2 года назад

      Where are your two amps positioned in your room/studio? Opposites of the room? Side by side? Or some other position?

    • @garretteverett2613
      @garretteverett2613 2 года назад +3

      @@TC_Conner I just stack them. I like a monolith, a wall of sound. Sometimes when I'd record I'd put the amps facing each other across a room with a stereo mic as the filling of an amp sandwich and try to balance it live, but hard-panning two signals in post is way more production-friendly. I love raw, live sound, but it's hell to try and fix if you don't nail it the first time.
      I used to be more technical with my setup with angles and panels and baffles and amp kickers etc., but these days I just play music by myself to make my heart happy, so I just have a monolith setup that can punch me in the gut when I need to make noise, and serves as an awesome elevated platform to start a Hot Wheels track off of when not in use. Priorities changed. 🤷‍♂️

    • @TC_Conner
      @TC_Conner 2 года назад +1

      @@garretteverett2613 Thanks for the reply Garret. I'm kinda new to home studio recording having just set up my studio last March. I've played guitar, acoustic and electric, in cover bands most all of my 66 years on this Little Blue Dot and still enjoy that. But here in my studio I've switched my energies to mostly ambient guitar compositions. I find them to be soul stirring, relaxing, calming, spiritual, and divine to my ears. I enjoy doing a new cover with my band on occasion (Jason Isbell's Cover Me Up for one), but composing my own music, ambient or otherwise, is starting to take up more and more of my studio time, and I don't mind! Thanks agian for your input on amp placement.

  • @vinnyguerriero5150
    @vinnyguerriero5150 3 года назад

    I slave out of a mesa mark iv (or v) into a seymour duncan powerstage 700 (solid state stereo power amp) into a pair of Mesa 1x12 cabs.....use various strymon time delay effects and/or a Fractal FM3....in addition, I run the amp through a center dry cab (no effects)...sounds wonderful!

  • @onionheadguy7094
    @onionheadguy7094 2 года назад

    I think you just talked me out of buying a really expensive amp for home recording amd getting a strymon iridium instead! Thank you!

  • @AlexGroen
    @AlexGroen 4 года назад +4

    Stereo!! I would put the chorus, delays and reverb after the amp and cabsim, for a bigger sound. That's how I use our church Kemper as well.

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  4 года назад +3

      Yes, I normally do that, however, I am trying to keep the signal path as much like a trad amp setup in this part of the "ambient guitar basics" series. Will definitely address that though.

    • @AlexGroen
      @AlexGroen 4 года назад +1

      @@chordsoforion You are great, thanks!

  • @massimolucarella6022
    @massimolucarella6022 4 года назад +1

    Hi Bill! I agree with Ya about stereo mode in a band. However I think it depends by the genre Ya're playing. A very interesting pedal (or plug-in), expecially if You are the only guitar player in a band is the doubler (I often put a Tc Electronic MIMIQ in my rig when I play rock or "prog" music). The main signal (center pan) comes from the amp (coloured for example with a mono delay) and a second "dry" - no delay - signal (left or right pan) passes through another amp (I use a CarlMartin Rockbug D.I. with cab emulator directly in the P.A.). It seems that there are two guitar players on stage. But when I play soundscapes or ambient stuff I am ALWAYS in stereo mode. ;)

    • @narrenhaus
      @narrenhaus 4 года назад

      MIMIQ for the win. It's pure magic. :)

  • @savoirfaire8979
    @savoirfaire8979 4 года назад

    Here’s a thought: maybe the two amps don’t need to be exact duplicates. Why? Because a 1x12” Mesa with a v30 speaker might contrast with another cab and speaker type. The different frequencies would be separated and thus provide a more distinct image.

    • @dolina006410
      @dolina006410 4 года назад +1

      I'm using Vox ac15c2 (2x12") and Fender Blues Jr. IV (1x10") in a stereo for my (almost) ambient playing and I love it! Vox is more v-shaped (bass+treble), on the other hand the Blues Junior is a beast in midst. These two amps complement each other perfectly.

  • @dmitrymalinowski8101
    @dmitrymalinowski8101 4 года назад

    This is exactly what I needed to see! But the question is - in your case I can hear guitar in the center and panning delays from left to right, but when I turn on my delay in stereo, I can hear dry guitar on the left and delay on the right with no panning. It's the same in tc electronic's videos - flashback in stereo mode, two amplifiers and no panning. So, what's the trick?=)

    • @TheAlpineProject
      @TheAlpineProject 4 года назад

      You need a stereo effect that pans. Some stereo effects just give you a wet/dry signal, and some give you modulation that may be out of phase with the other side, but not really panning. A delay that goes back and forth is usually called a ping pong delay.

  • @lujoestudio
    @lujoestudio Год назад

    Nice tone and playing!

  • @johncecilia4517
    @johncecilia4517 4 года назад

    Great video! Ive ran stereo with different amps and sounds great! So dont have to be same amp. 2x12 combo amps do stereo too and cheaper however not all have stereo effects loop

  • @gaetanofontanazza
    @gaetanofontanazza 4 года назад +2

    Well my attitude for ambient guitar even if there are other instruments or a light rhythmic section is stereo, all the way.
    In a band situation well it depends on the guitar arrangement and the genre of the song.
    I prefer stay mono if my part needs to be present and in front of the mix.
    I could get stereo in those situations if there’s a spacey guitar part.
    Some psychedelic tones sound better in mono though ;)

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 3 года назад +1

      I agree. Stereo is pretty much mandatory for ambient guitar, but other applications it depends heavily on context.

  • @arlleyg3
    @arlleyg3 4 года назад

    Night and day! Stereo delays are amazing!!!
    Great job demonstrating it!!!

  • @TheTaulusPaulus
    @TheTaulusPaulus 4 года назад +7

    Wet/dry/wet?

  • @mathmusicstructure
    @mathmusicstructure Год назад

    I think I prefer plain wet/dry. Stereo wet effects makes me a little seasick, especially with ping-pong delay or tremolo bouncing back and forth between L/R.

  • @NicS-q8n
    @NicS-q8n Месяц назад

    Love MONO sound , because many older record's were recorded that way . Even tho stereo was a option at that time . Sargent Pepper for example

  • @asherbeal8357
    @asherbeal8357 4 года назад +2

    I do a Wet Dry Wet set up. The best of both worlds.

  • @simonsmith2642
    @simonsmith2642 3 года назад

    I want to go stereo, but, I want modulations through FX loop and boost and stuff through the front end. I am Ltd school smile and so lost.

  • @alwintureajin7174
    @alwintureajin7174 3 года назад

    Are this rig setup can play in stereo without amp in live situation? Dirict to Di box?

  • @Kailenrulzu
    @Kailenrulzu 4 года назад

    I don't mind the panning in mono actually sounds pretty cool but I really do like stereo a lot better as it does sound fuller, surrounding your head as you hear it, listening to the music.

  • @paristhalheimer
    @paristhalheimer 4 года назад

    Q? Is there any advantage advantage (difference) where one places the volume pedal? I want to be able to get the best guitar swells possible. Currently, my volume pedal is the first pedal in my chain.

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  4 года назад

      Here's a video I did a few years ago on that topic: ruclips.net/video/jsuKmAJo3Qc/видео.html

  • @exploringwithasmr
    @exploringwithasmr Год назад

    If you are buying two amps to play in stereo. Does it make a difference if the amps have one or two speakers? For example those Fender twin reverb amps. Or is better to get the single speaker ones?

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  Год назад

      I am sure there are minor differences in phase alignment, however, I would go with an amp that you like the sound of - that is the most important factor.

  • @TablaDeep
    @TablaDeep 2 года назад

    Really helpful thanks!

  • @godjesus3232
    @godjesus3232 4 года назад +1

    how does this apply to running synths through your pedals? Is there anyway to run a synth through mono pedals without compromising the stereo image by making the signal sum to mono?

    • @JeffHendricks
      @JeffHendricks 4 года назад

      Depends on what the synth is doing between channels. If it's just a pitch or time modulation difference, should sound fine. If it's doing any kind of phasing or panning, the effect could get cancelled out.

    • @godjesus3232
      @godjesus3232 4 года назад

      @@JeffHendricks aren't I losing a true stereo image tho by letting a stereo signal sum to mono? For example having the stereo output from a reverb pedal into a mono pedal of some kind?

    • @JeffHendricks
      @JeffHendricks 4 года назад +1

      @@godjesus3232 Yes, you're losing the stereo image, but you aren't losing the whole signal. If you run (for instance) a stereo rotovibe effect that puts the L and R channels 180 out of phase with each other, when you recombine that to mono, parts of the sound will disappear from phase cancellation. Or with a L/R panning effect, if you sum it to mono, the effect disappears (because the overall volume stays the same). With a delay you don't get this, most reverbs wouldn't do it, a wet/dry chorus wouldn't do it, but certain things do.

  • @JonathanCarterSchall
    @JonathanCarterSchall 4 года назад +3

    Stereo. Your sound will sit in the air with a 3-D-like presence.

  • @sannermac2173
    @sannermac2173 4 года назад

    How it’s going Bill. Thanks for the video. I’m wondering, how do you record your rig. Do you use the Iridion and go direct into your DAW through an interface, or do you mic your rig? Also if you’re recording a stereo rig be it micing up your two
    amps or going straight from a pedal like the Iridion, are you recording a left and a right on two separate tracks in your DAW, or how does it work when using two channels on a interface? Sorry if these are silly questions; but I’m trying to get my head around this. Love your channel by the way 👍🏻

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  4 года назад +1

      When I use the Iridium, I record direct into my computer audio interface. No need for micing speaker cabs because of the cabinet sim in the pedal. I normally run stereo effects such as delays and reverbs after the Iridium so have 2 channels being recorded at once. I record one stereo WAV file, although they could be tracked as 2 mono. Hope that helps!

  • @exohead1
    @exohead1 4 года назад

    Bill would you have any advice for becoming better versed in chords, both how to actually play them and better understanding how they work? Chords are honestly my biggest weakpoint in guitar and I want to get better with them but I don’t really know how.

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  4 года назад +1

      Sounds like you may want to check out some lessons in chord structure and basic music theory. There's a ton of that here on RUclips. Also, there are many books on the topic. One that I like is the late Eric Roche's "The acoustic guitar bible" amzn.to/3dHkcSd
      There are many more though...

    • @exohead1
      @exohead1 4 года назад

      Chords Of Orion Thank you!

    • @JeffHendricks
      @JeffHendricks 4 года назад +2

      @@exohead1 I'd also recommend Rick Beato's "Everything Music" channel. He has tons of great content, but also some specifically on chord theory, guitar, and modes.

    • @exohead1
      @exohead1 4 года назад

      Jeff Hendricks Subscribed to him, but not quite started watching, yet. Been immensely busy. Thanks for the recommendation!

    • @exohead1
      @exohead1 4 года назад +1

      Chords Of Orion So I got in touch with a music theory teacher and it turns out I don’t know nearly as much about music theory as I thought I did, and I’m having lots of fun learning! I will be ordering that book shortly and will pick it up while home next!

  • @questocd174
    @questocd174 3 года назад

    Do I plug another cable from my right out on my stereo pedal to another amp for this? Also I actually have 2 stereo pedals...do I use a fork type cable to combine two cables to one into a second speaker?

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  3 года назад +1

      I you are using amps, then yes, you will need a second amp. Plug output 1 from the stereo pedal into amp 1 and output 2 from the pedal into amp 2. For 2 stereo pedals, just take the stereo outputs from pedal 1 and plug them into the stereo inputs of pedal 2.

    • @questocd174
      @questocd174 3 года назад

      @@chordsoforion thanks!

  • @bryantwalley
    @bryantwalley 4 года назад

    Just curious. Do you ever use the custom 10s you got last year? I see it on Reverb sometimes and it looks fantastic. Seems to be perfect in about every way but I never see you use it. Can you give us a follow up?

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  4 года назад

      Took a peek, and I have shot 5 videos with it, the last time back in Feb. It will be showing up again for sure. I still have the same opinion as I expressed in the initial video. I've decided I want to adjust the setup a bit, but have not had time to do so.

    • @bryantwalley
      @bryantwalley 4 года назад

      @@chordsoforion Good to know. I love everything about it. Probably going to pull the trigger and get me one.

  • @mikael.cherin
    @mikael.cherin 3 года назад

    @chords of Orion
    Im a bedroom guitarist, don't play in bands. I only play for my own fun. Im interested in recording with pedals, would it be best to invest in stereo pedals for this? The songs I record will be like a full band, 3-4 guitars, bass, drums, keys and also orchestral. Im having remorse over with reverb/delay pedals I should get... stereo or mono?

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  3 года назад

      Since you are focused on recording it is not necessary to invest in a bunch of stereo pedals. You can use recording plugins to acheive stereo effects when you need them.

    • @mikael.cherin
      @mikael.cherin 3 года назад

      @@chordsoforion thank you so much for the answer, means alot to me! So if i really wanted a reverb pedal, like the Walrus Slö (wich sounds amazing), can i then record it with good confidence? Even if its a mono pedal? How would it sound hard panned with another track hardpanned to he other side also using the same pedal with slightly different Settings? Its things like this im thinking about. Should i get the Walrus Slö if i really like it, and be confident to record it?

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  3 года назад +1

      @@mikael.cherin In oder to test, I suggest you record 2 mono guitar tracks, and pan one hard left and the other hard right. Then put a mono reverb plugin on each channel withj slightly different settings. It likely will not sound like the Slo, howeever, this will give you an idea of what the basic effect sounds like.

    • @mikael.cherin
      @mikael.cherin 3 года назад

      @@chordsoforion Hi, again. And so I did. I recorded two different stereo tracks of two guitars playing in harmony, recorded them with stereo reverb, panned them 40/40.
      Then I did the same with two mono tracks with mono reverb and panned them 40/40.
      Also added drums to make things more dense. Overall... I can't really say if the stereo pair sounds better or the mono pair sounds better :D The panning and all the sounds seem to mask the stereo effect of the individual reverbs.
      If I can tell something, it is that the mono pair feels slightly more focused and the midrange is a little more pronounced.
      My conclusion is that for playing alone in headphones and monitors, stereo reverb pedals is great. And if recording solo guitar parts where there's focus on one guitar.
      For recording songs with several guitars and instruments, it may be easier to place the guitar parts in the mix with recorded mono reverb, or using send/busses to treat the guitars with plugin reverbs. This still leaves me with option paralysis to what reverb pedal I want :D Anyway. Thanks for a great channel!

  • @louisantoine9576
    @louisantoine9576 4 года назад +2

    Stereo is magic!

  • @pierluigigodino5428
    @pierluigigodino5428 3 года назад

    Very interesting video! Thanks :)

  • @coyoteserranoband
    @coyoteserranoband 3 года назад +2

    Allan holdworths vibes:)

  • @pimentocheese618
    @pimentocheese618 4 года назад

    I have an indie/shoegaze band, do i really need stereo pedals? and if i had them, would be a difference in live perfomances or in studio recording, considering i don't have 2 amps? I don't know anything about this topic

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  4 года назад +1

      If you like the way your rig sounds in the band, then no, you don't need stereo pedals. Also, depending on how you record, you can add stereo effects in the mix down.

    • @pimentocheese618
      @pimentocheese618 4 года назад

      @@chordsoforion Thanks so much for the response :) and i think i'm ok with mono then, keep doing your amazing videos

  • @alexmurphy5289
    @alexmurphy5289 3 года назад

    I feel guilty owning a jazz chorus and not running it in stereo but I love my reverb and it’s only mono…we will see how long that lasts

  • @house9850
    @house9850 Год назад

    [flex alert] Ive got some Roland studio monitors on my alienware rig here, the stereo sounds really good! way better. Also if you're playing live you may consider stereo if you're playing outdoors, generally tone and volume cut through the mix more than stereo. As long as your "in phase" generally its better to play "wider" instead of louder outdoors. Personal preference.

  • @ThomasAntoniusOlsenJr.333
    @ThomasAntoniusOlsenJr.333 3 года назад

    Nothing like true stereo operation... I will never go back to old standard mono operation!

  • @pedalscapes
    @pedalscapes 4 года назад

    Great stuff, been experimenting a lot with stereo at home... But have thus far only played mono where others are involved... Cheers 😎

  • @chrisdaviesguitar
    @chrisdaviesguitar 4 года назад

    Great post dude.

  • @JeffHendricks
    @JeffHendricks 4 года назад

    Love my Fender Ultimate (stereo) Chorus amp. Most of the time playing with a band, I run it mono, for simplicity's sake and not to take up another channel on the board. But for videos, recording, and everything else, stereo just sounds better.

    • @corythorpe3176
      @corythorpe3176 4 года назад +1

      I just recently set up my stereo rig between my Vox AC-30 and a Fender Ultimate Chorus. I think they sound great together. The Ultimate Chorus sounds great for a solid state and can by picked up for under $300. I never knew what I was missing until I started running in stereo.

    • @JeffHendricks
      @JeffHendricks 4 года назад

      @@corythorpe3176 They're a great find (I've had mine since new). Can't really say they're a "clone" of a JC-120, but the chorus circuit is the same, and the clean channel is very similar. I've had to re-pot mine and replace the jacks and power caps, but considering, it's still a bargain.
      I brought mine into the local music shop, and a young guy in his late 20's who plays mostly metal was there. I plugged a stereo rotary sim pedal in the stereo fx loop, and he was floored. "You can literally feel the air pushing back and forth!" It really has to be felt to be understood.

  • @larrystoltenberg8361
    @larrystoltenberg8361 4 года назад

    For the ambient "rhythm" track, I'd go stereo. For the "lead" track, I'd probably go mono. In a band context, mono is what I usually do.

  • @Matthew-e3u7r
    @Matthew-e3u7r 4 года назад +3

    I'll say stereo... just make sure the speakers are at least 6 feet apart from each other. :)

  • @prodevus
    @prodevus 4 года назад

    Any producers here willing to comment? I do a lot of monoToStereo stuff on rhythm guitars or lead guitar/vox but not on fills and backing vocals.

  • @rareform6747
    @rareform6747 2 года назад

    Game Changer old Rockman stereo X-100 into (2) DSL 100's (2) 1960 cabs 💥💥

  • @michaelbutler2312
    @michaelbutler2312 4 года назад

    mono in dual mono out. stereo in stereo out. i don't believe that it is true stereo. i run strymon timeline and volante into two fender silverface champs.but my signal is mono in and dual mono coming out even tho some consider it stereo. now, if i had a stereo guitar such as an old 355 stereo, then that would be a different animal.
    i want to add that i checked with strymon and they indicate that it is true stereo.

  • @openup007
    @openup007 4 года назад +2

    AM or FM??? Hmmm let me think. Oh yeah, STEREO!!! (Roland JC22)

    • @5882300rickroll
      @5882300rickroll 4 года назад

      Ive got a jc22 as well. I wish the speakers were a little angled outwards /\ so that the stereo spread would be greater. but it's a great stereo spread if you use the headphone out or external monitors.

  • @coldwar1977
    @coldwar1977 4 года назад +1

    Not digging the look of that guitar, but it sounds PERFECT to me.

    • @michaelcrouse246
      @michaelcrouse246 4 года назад

      I think that’s a Carvin
      Holdsworth model.

    • @colelewis9940
      @colelewis9940 4 года назад +1

      @@michaelcrouse246 They dont make it anymore. Neither the pickups in it or the guitar model. Dont know why you dont like the way it looks, it doesnt look much different from a tele or a les paul. I guess it's not impossible you dont like those either.

    • @michaelcrouse246
      @michaelcrouse246 4 года назад

      Cole Lewis I don’t mind the way it looks, it’s the guy I was replying to. It looks like a practical well balanced shape and I’m sure Holdsworth knew what he was doing. Too bad they don’t make it anymore.

  • @Dannybwoiii
    @Dannybwoiii 5 месяцев назад

    A simple stereo setup. Get a modeller such as helix or quad cortex, 2 good quality powered speakers and run the left and right outputs to each speaker.
    This works magical as a solo performer or for recording. If you’re playing in a full band, I’d just stick with a single guitar amp and run everything in mono.

  • @phi2771
    @phi2771 4 года назад +2

    Eric Johnson runs a dual stereo all the time..Always sounds amazing with his band.

  • @mmatthewias280
    @mmatthewias280 2 года назад +1

    Once you’ve gone/played stereo Mono is so sterile and boring. It’s frustrating to not have stereo options after you go down that road.

  • @ryleuty
    @ryleuty 11 месяцев назад

    RIVERSIDE BABY!!!!

  • @BcBaxley
    @BcBaxley 4 года назад

    Once you go stereo you cant go back 🤘 i don't see how stereo takes away from the mix... the guitars frequency range is the same weather its "wide" or not ???

    • @aangtonio5570
      @aangtonio5570 3 года назад +1

      In fact, the guitar frequency range OVERLAPS most of the range of other instruments (voice, piano, bass, drums, etc.), that's why it's too difficult to produce a good-sounding track, whatever the musical genre (ambient, rock, electronica, etc.). You should watch "The Art of Mixing" videos by David Gibson here on RUclips (or better, buy his book).

    • @BcBaxley
      @BcBaxley 3 года назад

      @@aangtonio5570 Thanks, will do. I love jamming stereo when it just me , ping pongs, univibe...etc are so much fun. The rigs are absurd, and way to unpractical for gigs / pro recordings lol

  • @softpillow9596
    @softpillow9596 4 года назад

    Cool video

  • @jrr832
    @jrr832 4 года назад +3

    Stereo for recording or solo, mono for playing in the band.

  • @Origxn
    @Origxn 3 года назад

    didnt know you could get such a good tone from a slice of bread

  • @BubStubbley
    @BubStubbley 4 года назад

    That sounds cool and all, but... that is not really stereo. You are using a mono source, the guitar mono signal simply doubled, so what you hear is the mono in the center, and the delay in the sides. Unless you have a guitar wired to produce stereo, i.e. the left signal and the right signal are not identical, you should label this exercise as mono or stereo effects. You should also note that mono works better for live performances from a sound system aspect while stereo is problematic in live performances.

    • @chordsoforion
      @chordsoforion  4 года назад +1

      I respect your viewpoint on the first topic. Regarding mono and live performance, I addressed that in this video.

    • @nathanschad8048
      @nathanschad8048 4 года назад

      His pedal is what “makes” it stereo though. his instrument isn’t JUST the guitar, it’s also the pedals. Knobs and pots are in a sense “pedals” built into the guitar.

    • @TheAlpineProject
      @TheAlpineProject 4 года назад

      If there's any difference in time, pitch, volume, phasing, EQ, speaker proximity, or even just distortion, I'd consider that stereo. People argue over what counts but it seems pretty cut and dry to me. Wet/dry/wet on the other hand is a little trickier but still can be settled. A lot of w/d/w setups (including mine) are really more like damp/dry/damp or damp/moist/damp as the dry signal may be blended in the left and right, or there may be some modulation or time effects of some sort in the center. For instance, if you have a stereo delay or a delay going in a wet/dry situation, or a stereo delay in wet/dry/wet... if the initial note is there on the "wet" channels, then they're not totally wet. Conversely, if you put reverb or tremolo or modulation/time effects in a signal, it's not really dry.

  • @dragosvremaroiu7880
    @dragosvremaroiu7880 3 года назад +1

    Didn't except to see Sir Davos Seaworth teaching guitar tricks :D

  • @geekguitars
    @geekguitars 3 года назад +1

    I'm a bassist, even I run in stereo.

  • @paulsimmons5726
    @paulsimmons5726 4 года назад

    Since I'm hearing you out of my phone, there's not a great deal tonal difference, the effects are mildly brighter in stereo. If I were listening to you in a live setting, I'd be much more impressed.
    I like stereo when it fits the song. All things considered, Chuck Berry sounded great in old-school mono! Whatever works for the time, I think!

  • @planetpjr
    @planetpjr 4 года назад +1

    Allan answered this question already.

  • @rottalmusik6563
    @rottalmusik6563 4 года назад +1

    Wet/Dry is also a good way😉😜

  • @aldrinaldrin4618
    @aldrinaldrin4618 2 года назад

    That guitar looks like a caramel candy I wanna lick it

  • @lobsterbankerco5230
    @lobsterbankerco5230 4 года назад +1

    Get a boss oc 3 in there. 3 amp setup. Chad behaviour

  • @DR-mp4gv
    @DR-mp4gv 2 года назад

    ...when I tell my friends I have mono they stay away....stereo all the way:)

  • @liys540
    @liys540 4 года назад

    stereo is the way

  • @4p166
    @4p166 3 года назад

    Stereo everytime

  • @twegan
    @twegan 3 года назад

    The obvious....pedal makers today especially the higher end ones require stereo... otherwise in some respects you GET NO EFFECT...and for the most part are NOT foot stomp friendly you need to have a pedal board on a rack of some kind.... all mine have been on racks for 4 years now do to that concept..allowing for the tweeking required to make the pedal what it is...

  • @jamesspooner5487
    @jamesspooner5487 Год назад

    Alex Lifeson vibes

  • @gwEmbassy
    @gwEmbassy 4 года назад

    Also twice as much heavy stuff to carry around :)

  • @crilf5830
    @crilf5830 2 года назад

    Shouldn’t be a ?

  • @jaycole4691
    @jaycole4691 11 месяцев назад

    No real amps no deal.

  • @Em_Dee_Aitch
    @Em_Dee_Aitch 2 года назад

    Leave the stereo on. Turn all the other shit off.