I've been looking for a character (whose tools are not as fundamentally difficult to utilise) to learn alongside Carl, and I think I just found her. Zoners, my beloved :)
Combos are fun, very easy once you get the idea so you can improv. But's it's nightmare playing defense in the corner with her, or if you misread and whiff. Back to the corner with you.
Everyone will always try to gas up zoning and talk about how much skill it takes but no one talks about the more skill it takes to get in on zoners. Especially in games like this
What I hate most about zoners is that defensive mechanics like burst and guard cancel NATURALLY help their game plan so much and no other character benefits from something universal like that. It’s like even IF you get in, get ready to get knocked away and start the struggle all over again. Happens everytime the Es player got in on this match. My best advice is to use meter to get in, such as an invincible super like carnage scissors or RC after a fireball.
All this BB coverage means Jiyuna is going to end up willing a new BB or at the very least CF Extend into existence. Truly the savior of anime we need.
Man, i wish i could second you on this one, but we all know that after 3D and Kuon set foot in the game, every other zoning but his just became irrelevant. And i play Vat
Even with gravity well, it's still worth it to do some instant air dashes and short hops to back them in a corner. It felt like they were trying to super jump to use Es' projectiles for an opportunity to get in, but trying to out-zone Nu is a high bar to pass. Nu will likely eventually make a mistake if you keep backing them into a corner while expecting a command dash, so catching them with 2A if they do or 214C with Es to get in quick with her big sword could have let them capitalize on that if they were more patient.
Commenting to boost engagement with BlazBlue content! No matter how ass zoners could be mechanically, it will never feel bad enough when someone is beating you with them.
Random BB diary entry: I read the first xblaze recently and am very confused about Es at this point. Going to check out the other one next month and probably replay the story modes of the games again. Like, Bro, she's already gone on Ragna's whole journey by the end of that. Why doesn't she just snap her fingers and solve everything in CF? And taking that into context I don't for a second buy the ending of CF anymore either lol. She had the same ending (literally had a direct analogue to the Rachel thing at the end and everything) and went on to star in multiple games afterward. All in all I wouldn't recommend it to anyone not already in too deep. The writing was trash, but the new perspective helped me understand a few lore bits better.
I watch a lot of these videos even though I don't play Blazblue and I've started to honestly wonder. If Izanami is supposed to be the turbo broken high-tier, why don't I remember her in any of these videos? Like we've even seen Arakune. It just feels weird lmao.
All the top tiers in BBCF are hard to play and require like 1000 hours to play at the top level that their tier placements have them at. As for HOW they’re difficult idk. But they’re difficult to the point that they are uncommon in tournaments so that’s gotta say something. That’s why Mai and Es are so common, they are simple, strong and have no/few bad matchups
It's mainly cuz there is no enjoyment to play against the character. The domination factor that both nine and izanami can cause can be very one-sided and not entertaining. The main ones that take 1000s of hours is Carl and Litchi though Litchi is an on-paper top tier but Carl can easily have his power on display (which is why both are not shown as often as people aren't trying to be specialists). Now with BB being essentially a dead series, most of the people who know the terror of izanami quit the game or refused to learn about her. So most people are playing characters that aren't "super armor" the character and my projectile is my default range but once people discover the power, they typically will continue playing 'em.
you know what the problem with nu-13 is, I started playing with lambda in cs and now I feel like I need to stay loyal and push her, even if all she got in the divorce was spike chaser.
Theres an easy answer to Nu. Simply play Hazama and half the battle becomes a game of chicken. Terumi has a singular way in but it requires meter. Hakumen atleast has his entire mechanic being anti-projectile but he'll still run into the problem of accurately hitting the projectile with his sword. But the best answer is unortunately Hazama's chains and rush options otherwise your just playing a game of patience. The alternative method is Izanami's ribcage or full-screen low whenever an attempt to do the gravity seed or overhead. This unfortunately requires you to guess when its coming and be able to react accordingly.
While I don’t think 13 is in the same echelon as Rachel, Izanami, and Carl, any character that forces you to play their game to that extent that 13 does can’t be low-tier, in my opinion.
See here, IF your sword had the property to kill projectiles you wouldn't have this problem. I know a waifu character with a sword that kills projectiles.
That Es just didn't run straight a single time. No mix on the approach besides the super, which he was doing too proactively to work. This is rough, I have the same thousand yard stare as the guy cause my BlazBlue buddy was a v-13 main and even worse cause I played Bullet...
I thiiiink a problem in this matchup is Es' mobility, while she does play a strong rushdown she doesn't easily cross the screen in any direction. Her ability to deal with fireballs is also pretty limited. That said I like zoners as long as they have some tech. Dhalsim is coolest when he has whacky combos with interesting properties. I can't do old school zoners who just fireball and anti-air.
"We gotta rewrite this tierlist I'm moving her ass up" Yup she's top 3 right? Kokonoe can be moved down right??? (just kidding) Thanks again for the response the other day. Since then, I did think of some really greasy things she gets with sideswaps, literally broken stuff etc. Long story short I GOTTA GET BACK INTO BLAZBLUE.
Ooh I play that character Nu being able to fight from far makes easier to deal with some of the BlazBlue craziness Full screen and sometimes off screen overhead is such a funny thing to give a zoner. I remember when rollback came out and my friends couldn't believe that was a thing 😂
@@Akira_1001 3:36 Nu's 4D tracks and always comes from the same overhead behind angle Nu 13 and Lambda 11 can both do it but it isn't a thing all the characters have. The mix in this game can be pretty wild though.
As nu 13 player, i like eat wood with glue And about fighting her all what i can say against nu is that you should be very patient with approaches, and NEVER even try to outzone her. Be aware that after every her D moves, gravity seed and 6C she can just dash. This dash had limited range and can be done in her long range pressure at all time You can try to approach her from air, but be aware that she had 4 anti air moves, and if she hits you with one of these you screwed up. I don't have much time invested in this game, but still hope i said some of her stuff.
This is so frustrating to watch. Imagine playing against this master zoner. No way she's low tier. This is nuts. Who beats that? Whitch character is her antagonist?
Nah I ain't letting the Jiyuna propaganda work, I was so hype to seen Nu and Noel in top 8 at this tournament. Even if grands was a blowout LLon had some sick sets
In tier lists, Nu is considered terrible, and Lambda is considered kinda meh. But I would choose to face Izanami or Rachel anytime instead of those two. I'm usually quite calm when playing, but everytime I had the moment "if it continues I think I'm gonna throw the TV through the window", I was fighting one of those two.
Yea I agree Nine and Rachel are insanely broken. They get to run away FOR FREE, meanwhile I have to play honest low tiers Kagura and Lambda to keep people 5 meters away from me.
![I.N "HALLUCINATION" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/n5B5q1Hwt_U/mqdefault.jpg)
It's an ecosystem. If you remove the zoners, the grapples will multiply out of control.
I'd kinda rather get tager'd than deal with nu-13. at least it's over quickly.
@@vla1ne Unless he tries the magnet loop.
@ true, but even then, at least you can just set the controller down and not fry mentally trying to block offscreen overheads.
You can tell this es has never had to block in his life.
BlazBlue will never die as long as Jiyuna remembers the password to the channel
Today, humanity received a grim reminder, on who the og blazblue boss character was
Tough times back then
When the old lobby would allow Unlimited characters, fucking kill me.
Nu 13 took all of Hakumen's sauce in CT
New year and Jiyuna is already killing his channel.
💪🏼
theyre not finding the bodies with this upload 🔥
Id fight 100 Zoners before fighting a single Tager
You spelled Arakune wrong
You spelled Mai wrong
My man.
brother speaks facts. Tager is the (red) devil
Heresy. 100 matches against Arakune upon thee.
That's how Nu does combos on a regular basis? That looks so cool 💥
She is cool, yeah
That's why I picked her up. Her sword combos are so sick.
jiyuna only covering blazblue?! truly the best era 🙏🙏🙏
The only problem i see here is that you havent done arakune’s combo trials
I usually pick grapplers, Zoners scares me naturally, but in blazblue is even worse, still glad to see an Es taking Ls, props to LLON
I love seeing nu and lambda succeed. They were the characters that got me into learning cs.
Lambda getting a lot of wins recently
watch for ceo ill be back
also im 17
Keep it up!
@@Maknchess just block bro
Good job getting into finals at 17, learn the matchup and take the W's from the boomers
Fighting games are hard when you consider blocking optional.
I've been looking for a character (whose tools are not as fundamentally difficult to utilise) to learn alongside Carl, and I think I just found her.
Zoners, my beloved :)
ackchyually it's "Lambda 13"
Just started learning her too haha. Hate to say it but those combos look insanely fun to me.
Combos are fun, very easy once you get the idea so you can improv. But's it's nightmare playing defense in the corner with her, or if you misread and whiff. Back to the corner with you.
animeillumintai yearns for blazblue everyday
Yes
Zoner are a refined gentlemen gameplay.
Everyone will always try to gas up zoning and talk about how much skill it takes but no one talks about the more skill it takes to get in on zoners. Especially in games like this
Yes!
What I hate most about zoners is that defensive mechanics like burst and guard cancel NATURALLY help their game plan so much and no other character benefits from something universal like that.
It’s like even IF you get in, get ready to get knocked away and start the struggle all over again. Happens everytime the Es player got in on this match. My best advice is to use meter to get in, such as an invincible super like carnage scissors or RC after a fireball.
With the added bonus that the zoner doesn't give a damn about those defensive options.
2025 year of blazblue
All this BB coverage means Jiyuna is going to end up willing a new BB or at the very least CF Extend into existence. Truly the savior of anime we need.
As a Hilda enjoyer, I intend to make it everyone else's problem
Man, i wish i could second you on this one, but we all know that after 3D and Kuon set foot in the game, every other zoning but his just became irrelevant. And i play Vat
Rushdown is a problem and Grapplers are a problem too
Only Es is OK
**cuts all the projectiles**
I am the void…
I think I watched this tournament a bit ago to see what the game at high level was like. Nu 13 seems like a very very mu heavy character
This whole bracket was so nice to watch. The Wheel of Fate will NEVER stop turning.
This made me remember the dark days of Calamity Trigger lmao
V13 paying for her BBCT crimes
If I ever pick up blazblue again, I'm playing v13 or lambda11. I got influenced by entropy effect lol
Lambda is fun in that game
This isn't a zoner "problem". This is a Nu "problem".
Mans not blocking on wakeup
Image ft100 with a zoner that just wants to zone you
When we getting the tutorial video on how to beat v13?
When I learn how to beat her lol
playing amane still convinces me that playing a zoner still doesnt save you from zoners
ngl all these bb uploads from you make me wanna play it again lmao
Pick izanami, put on the purple pancho, and run at her. At least, that’s what I would do.
Even with gravity well, it's still worth it to do some instant air dashes and short hops to back them in a corner. It felt like they were trying to super jump to use Es' projectiles for an opportunity to get in, but trying to out-zone Nu is a high bar to pass. Nu will likely eventually make a mistake if you keep backing them into a corner while expecting a command dash, so catching them with 2A if they do or 214C with Es to get in quick with her big sword could have let them capitalize on that if they were more patient.
So A-13 has a similar gameplay to a grappler? Yes, it looks more complicated but its still the same premise on the other side of the screen
The real problem is the friends we lost along the way.
ES DOWNPLAY WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES
Did you end up trying the BlazBlue roguelike btw? It's suprisingly good
Yeah it’s great. Will make a video soon.
No grapplers, no zooners?
What is that? Ryu the fighting game?
Ragna mirrors only
I'm glad to see Nu13 doing something in CEOtaku and Frosty. It's the only murakumo character you almost never see in top 16.
Commenting to boost engagement with BlazBlue content! No matter how ass zoners could be mechanically, it will never feel bad enough when someone is beating you with them.
that's why you need a pocket ragna for the matchup. you hell's fang whenever you can
Zoners are a problem as long as you don't play Hakumen
As a tager main, at least i end it quickly. Nu-13 just slowly paper cut that Es on a live broadcast.
My favorite itteration of Nu 13 was Chrono Phantasma with the mode swap thing.
What's the song in the outro?
"Conciliation", which is Es's theme in Blazblue.
@@yearslate9349 Bless. I havent played blazblue since calamity trigger. All these new characters look crazy
I know a new bb would never be the same as cf. But damn it i still want it
Random BB diary entry:
I read the first xblaze recently and am very confused about Es at this point. Going to check out the other one next month and probably replay the story modes of the games again.
Like, Bro, she's already gone on Ragna's whole journey by the end of that. Why doesn't she just snap her fingers and solve everything in CF?
And taking that into context I don't for a second buy the ending of CF anymore either lol. She had the same ending (literally had a direct analogue to the Rachel thing at the end and everything) and went on to star in multiple games afterward.
All in all I wouldn't recommend it to anyone not already in too deep. The writing was trash, but the new perspective helped me understand a few lore bits better.
Es players cant call anything a problem 😂
Es is innocent
I watch a lot of these videos even though I don't play Blazblue and I've started to honestly wonder. If Izanami is supposed to be the turbo broken high-tier, why don't I remember her in any of these videos? Like we've even seen Arakune. It just feels weird lmao.
All the top tiers in BBCF are hard to play and require like 1000 hours to play at the top level that their tier placements have them at. As for HOW they’re difficult idk. But they’re difficult to the point that they are uncommon in tournaments so that’s gotta say something.
That’s why Mai and Es are so common, they are simple, strong and have no/few bad matchups
It's mainly cuz there is no enjoyment to play against the character. The domination factor that both nine and izanami can cause can be very one-sided and not entertaining. The main ones that take 1000s of hours is Carl and Litchi though Litchi is an on-paper top tier but Carl can easily have his power on display (which is why both are not shown as often as people aren't trying to be specialists). Now with BB being essentially a dead series, most of the people who know the terror of izanami quit the game or refused to learn about her. So most people are playing characters that aren't "super armor" the character and my projectile is my default range but once people discover the power, they typically will continue playing 'em.
Blazblue is not a game where you just hop to the top tier of the week. Need to really dedicate yourself if you want to switch characters.
I can learn from the zoner god so much.
This is one of the few reasons i main azreal, zoning with projectiles? Growler into instant phalanx, no zoning zone
you know what the problem with nu-13 is, I started playing with lambda in cs and now I feel like I need to stay loyal and push her, even if all she got in the divorce was spike chaser.
I can't understand why a character like that exists. What's the reasoning?
my favourite BB character, her conversions are just so fun.
Bro said I got the game so others can block
Theres an easy answer to Nu. Simply play Hazama and half the battle becomes a game of chicken. Terumi has a singular way in but it requires meter. Hakumen atleast has his entire mechanic being anti-projectile but he'll still run into the problem of accurately hitting the projectile with his sword. But the best answer is unortunately Hazama's chains and rush options otherwise your just playing a game of patience. The alternative method is Izanami's ribcage or full-screen low whenever an attempt to do the gravity seed or overhead. This unfortunately requires you to guess when its coming and be able to react accordingly.
No matter what you have to guess in neutral against her.
Yes and unfortunately almost all the answers are play top tiers/high tiers.
First time seeing this game. That character looked super sick. Kinda interested ngl
While I don’t think 13 is in the same echelon as Rachel, Izanami, and Carl, any character that forces you to play their game to that extent that 13 does can’t be low-tier, in my opinion.
Everyone except hazama is a problem
at least blazblue has movement, looking at you NRS.
It harms me mentally to hear Jiyuna, pillar of the community and strongest Blazblue soldier I know, pronounce Nu's name as V.
See here, IF your sword had the property to kill projectiles you wouldn't have this problem. I know a waifu character with a sword that kills projectiles.
Why use flying blades when you can spam insects from every part of the screen? 🤗
V13 beats Arakune!
BO BLEIS season, lets goooo.
That Es just didn't run straight a single time. No mix on the approach besides the super, which he was doing too proactively to work.
This is rough, I have the same thousand yard stare as the guy cause my BlazBlue buddy was a v-13 main and even worse cause I played Bullet...
V13 takes matchup exp to fight
nu 13 D attacks feel endless sometimes lol
yes i was going "it's not v-13 it's mu-13" in my head, but in my defence I wasn't gonna mention it and i am older than the franchise
new trailer for the Guilty Gear anime dropped.
I thiiiink a problem in this matchup is Es' mobility, while she does play a strong rushdown she doesn't easily cross the screen in any direction. Her ability to deal with fireballs is also pretty limited.
That said I like zoners as long as they have some tech. Dhalsim is coolest when he has whacky combos with interesting properties. I can't do old school zoners who just fireball and anti-air.
Blazblue going strong 🫡
been saying this forever and this applies to all fighting games
"We gotta rewrite this tierlist I'm moving her ass up"
Yup she's top 3 right? Kokonoe can be moved down right??? (just kidding)
Thanks again for the response the other day. Since then, I did think of some really greasy things she gets with sideswaps, literally broken stuff etc. Long story short I GOTTA GET BACK INTO BLAZBLUE.
Ooh I play that character
Nu being able to fight from far makes easier to deal with some of the BlazBlue craziness
Full screen and sometimes off screen overhead is such a funny thing to give a zoner. I remember when rollback came out and my friends couldn't believe that was a thing 😂
Wait, off screen overhead? How does that work? I don't know much at all regarding Blaze Blue's combat, so is that a normal concept?
She’s not as easy as she looks here
@@Akira_1001 3:36 Nu's 4D tracks and always comes from the same overhead behind angle
Nu 13 and Lambda 11 can both do it but it isn't a thing all the characters have. The mix in this game can be pretty wild though.
As nu 13 player, i like eat wood with glue
And about fighting her all what i can say against nu is that you should be very patient with approaches, and NEVER even try to outzone her. Be aware that after every her D moves, gravity seed and 6C she can just dash. This dash had limited range and can be done in her long range pressure at all time
You can try to approach her from air, but be aware that she had 4 anti air moves, and if she hits you with one of these you screwed up.
I don't have much time invested in this game, but still hope i said some of her stuff.
As a tager and nu13 player, this was fun to watch. Just unfortunate that I am universally hated by the anti-grappler and anti-zoner players both lmao
We're just watching a bad player get exposed is all.
Money match him if you think he’s bad
Nu-13, Very Strong and Kawaii..😂
Thank you JIYUNA
Congratulations
Es should've baited counter assaults cuz nu using it 2 frequently
Blazblue is so silly, man. I have mad respect for anyone good in this game, Id fold immediately if a zoner hit me with double-full-screen-overhead
V13 the first Blazblue character I ever hated. Never played BBTag but I would hate to see this dude with V13 and Hilda.
This is so frustrating to watch. Imagine playing against this master zoner. No way she's low tier. This is nuts. Who beats that? Whitch character is her antagonist?
I think zoners are harder to deal with, which is I pick them. My friends are as scrubby as I am so they don't know how to deal with that shit. :p
That kid's mom should tell him to shave
This final is kinda sad
Sometimes blowouts happen
Look all i'm saying is i'll never pretend Es has a bad matchup
CT flashbacks watching this
I thought video games were supposed to be fun. I feel like i need therapy after watching.
Nah I ain't letting the Jiyuna propaganda work, I was so hype to seen Nu and Noel in top 8 at this tournament. Even if grands was a blowout LLon had some sick sets
God I love Nu-13. I wish she was stronger because since I play Rachel, who's stupid strong, I don't really have a reason to play Nu-13 as well 😂
In tier lists, Nu is considered terrible, and Lambda is considered kinda meh. But I would choose to face Izanami or Rachel anytime instead of those two. I'm usually quite calm when playing, but everytime I had the moment "if it continues I think I'm gonna throw the TV through the window", I was fighting one of those two.
man... I really liked Mu and Platinum in that tournament, but Nu did them bad. Congrats to the dude but man...
Dang i play Nu but i suck. Thought I'd never see a nu in GF, tech will be stolen
They've been a problem forever. It's hard to make them good but not broken.
Can you add more beige into your wardrobe please
Yea I agree Nine and Rachel are insanely broken. They get to run away FOR FREE, meanwhile I have to play honest low tiers Kagura and Lambda to keep people 5 meters away from me.
Also I call Susan'no sus
Narukami 😂
All these years and people are still bitching about Nu.
Must be a content drought. lmao
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