One of the most important lines of this episode is skipped.Brett tells Severide “If you quit giving people second chances they quit having them” That’s very powerful
@@bforman1300 Some folk struggle and keep making the same mistakes. They _can_ eventually get better (if they commit and dinnae suffer bad luck), but they still need hope and support. Without that, folk can give up which can lead tae a downward spirial.
@darthlazurus4382 true. It comes down to your own resources and situation. If you are trying to give them a hand up, and all they do is try to drag you down with them, it's time to back off. When you see they are making an honest effort, sure. Give them some help. If they don't, it will be wasted effort.
at first considering it’s America I thought the medical bill. As free medical health care dose not exist. Then she mentioned her ex who she has a restraining order on then that made a bit more sense. She would be trying to keep her son and herself safe from her ex. I think what the most important thing to take away from this don't judge too quickly. Before understanding the full picture of the situation.
@@Nyxia88 You would deny your child medical attention they need because of a flagged file? and the reason his file was flagged is because she was an alcoholic and it was an abusive environment he was removed from. CPS actually had reason to act then and they had reason to act now. she tried to deny her kid medical attention
in my experience doctors cause HARM more often then help. I am permanently and severely disabled from medical abuse. Doctors only need to know how to dismiss,invalidate and gas light.
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The title is very misleading. There was no family tragedy. CPS jumped the gun and yes, they took the kid, but as soon as they checked things out they returned him. He was gone a day at the most. Stop with the clickbait titles.
Also, parenthood is not easy with emergency services who are indoctrinated FIRST to do the task, then investigate, though most are court forbidden if this was done for some scam.
So the trauma they both endured and will continue to live with was okay with you? That kid was ripped away from the only safety he knows while hurt. He won't feel safe needing medical care from that point on.
Yeah it’s all in the teeth. He already has grown up front teeth instead of baby teeth. Most kids don’t loose those til they’re 6 or 7. He’s already grown his in.
I mean, ideally you'd have a lawyer on retainer, but obviously she isn't in a financial state to do that. And actually, as someone whose worked in a field that has to report to the DCFS and OIG of Illinois any possibility of abuse to a minor/individual who is in a state vulnerable to abuse/neglect/exploitation? The law that requires someone in said positions to be mandated reporters also happens to make the reporter a key witness, who is often called in to explain why they made the report and asked about the situation in general. So, in terms of legality in the State of Illinois and Cook County, every first responder there was a mandated reporter, and, while better contacted through a lawyer? Has weight based on their witness testimony in any hearing regarding this incident in regards to it being a case of neglect. And EMTs are usually the first go to due to training in looking for signs of abuse/neglect/etc.
They experienced the event that led to the case being opened. They're 100% going to be asked to answer questions and, if it goes that far, testify in the case. Asking them and showing them that he's properly cared for will lead to a good report on their part in the case. Especially considering she doesn't appear to be in a financial state to have her own lawyer and would have to use a lawyer provided by the state, who may not be as lenient or try as hard. Every witness who can give a good word increases her chances of it being thrown out.
@@jorleejack right on point, it's just that OP doesn't understand that, in a genuine criminal case, "I have a Lawyer" means very little unless one side has a public defender and the other has Johnny Cochran. People show up to be a witness either because they witnessed the event and want to just share whatever info they have to get multiple POVs in physical altercations, they witnessed it and have bias for either side, or they're required/mandated/requested to do so. OP seems to think you can actually tell any police officer "I want to see my lawyer first" and they just go hands off cuz you have a 5th amendment right to not speak, but not a right to override being injured/Involved in some aspect of a crime and not be asked to testify.
I am the Field Medical Officer for a Search and Rescue/Recovery and Rapid Disaster Response Team as the PA-Field Level-1 Trauma Specialist. When children are involved in these cases (got lost, was kidnapped or run away.... if there's injury) the word/ testimony of the responding crew (Police, fire, Paramedics, SAR, etc) and their observations while on scene can significantly help or hurt the parent's case regarding abuse depending on the situation. Experienced professionals carry a good amount of weight.
was this episode about child abuse or rampant misogyny? it starts with the female firefighter getting held back and belittled at every turn, the doctor condescendingly interrupts the female paramedic, they assume the mother's AA sponsor is a man, i don't think there's a single woman in this entire clip who's actually taken seriously.
You need to watch the show. Cause you are off the mark. Dawson (the female candidate) is hopping from Ambo to Truck. She had a habit on Ambo as being a bit of a wild card/maverick. Played by her own rules a chunk of the time and she has a habit of believing she's in the right even when she's dead wrong. In later seasons, it's shown that she makes MASSIVE decisions without even involving her SO when it directly involves him. She's a bit of a narcissist and can be very reckless. Lt Casey (Man in charge on the scene) is dating her. Which makes it problematic on so many levels. He cannot be directly in charge of her, so he puts Hermann in charge of her in the field and in the house training. In the firehouse she can do things, but out on calls, she can only observe and help where Hermann or Lt Casey allow it. She is a candidate, which means she is primo rookie, she CANNOT do the things the other firefighters on scene can. It's like asking a first year medical student to work the ER during a crisis. If she f@cks up, people die.
@@draconiclady0610ahh thank you. I was getting so fuckin pissed off until I read this comment. Dunno why RUclips suddenly recommended this to me but I wish they'd pin your comment before the show gets hate for no reason
The ears bend back when you stick your head in, but the bars get stuck behind them when you try to pull your head back out. Happened to me when I was little. Thankfully, it was just the front steps and not the balcony of an apparent several stories up.
@@Michelle-DiPalo Huh I suppose that makes sense, but then can't you just use your hands to pin your ears to your head as you slowly pull back? I'd test this theory but I don't wanna get stuck if I'm wrong.
0:27 into this and am no a structural engineer or anything of the sort but the extendable 3 splice ladder on the side of the truck could be opened up and jammed in the ground and extended to hold the railing in place. not a solution but will take off some of the pressure of the mother holding on.
@@christieroberts4360 Yeah, its hard to judge which apatment is which from the inside of the building, you didn't want to go busting down the wrong door.
That child + railing shouldn't be so heavy that it requires the mom + 3 full grown men. Even the mom by herself should be able to pull it back, she's not lifting but Pulling. 😂
CPS got involved at the hospital- there was a past history of abuse and mother was an alcoholic, which was why the mother didn't want her son going because she knew it would be flagged and he would be taken from her even though this time it truly was an accident. Once it was concluded to actually be a genuine accident, and not abuse hidden as 'accident' the boy was returned to his mother
@@solar.690 they didn't seem very concerned about breaking his neck when they took the c-collar off and had him turn his head before he'd gotten an x-ray
@@dietotakuI was in a car accident once and even though my neck was fine, they didn't take that thing off till they were absolutely sure my neck was fine
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that what’s his name was doing everything instead of letting his probe help like dude if you want her to learn you gotta let her do it. You can’t do everything yourself. It was pissing me off.😂
I don't really see how that railing was holding on.. especially since they only tied one side and then just abandoned holding it altogether. Also everything in that fridge looked like it was bought brand new. 15 minutes you talked to your AA sponsor? I would have taken a closer look at the chat history and see how often not when was the last time. The only thing I felt for in this clip was the female firefighter that was getting pushed aside and ignored.
I respect firefighters who saves lives above themselves and should be respected and rescue teams their also one of the reasons why I want to save lives
That’s is completely false, EMS do NOT have the right to transport a minor to the hospital if the parents have legal custody of the child and doesn’t want the child to be transported. It would be illegal for EMS to go against the parent’s choice.
@@marionarda2790 Yes, legally we have to. Can call your supervisor or captain to explain the situation, but ultimately it’s up the parents. I would definitely let PD and CPS know about it though.
They took him away because there was a history of abuse and she was an alcoholic. they needed to be sure he was somewhere safe. when it was concluded to be an actual accident and not abuse disguised as an accident the kid was given back
um, Mother has the right to refuse medical care. if abuse is suspected and it is emergent, PD can place child in protective custody. if its not emergent, CPS needs to be contacted. there is nothing wrong with a 5 year old to be on the balcony with the parent inside aware of what the child is doing.
@@rebeksyo it would have broken even if mom was there right there. in a MAINTAINED building a 5 year old can be on a balcony with mom aware from inside
I suppose it wasn't tragic that the woman lost her child? I know if I had lost mine it would feel like a true tragedy. Its amazing how true to life some TV shows are portrayed.
@@Destiny1stand she got him back in the end, so no tragedy. Plus if she really did lose it it’d be because they determined he wasn’t in a safe environment, so still no tragedy
she knew if he went to the hospital child protective services would get involved. there is a history of abuse so when the kid was admitted to hospital it flagged
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One of the most important lines of this episode is skipped.Brett tells Severide
“If you quit giving people second chances they quit having them”
That’s very powerful
How many second chances count as 'second' chances?
How many second chances before they stop taking it seriously?
Each time is a judgment call.
@ this time was a judgement call and it was right one.I agree wholeheartedly with your comment I was talking this actual instance
@@bforman1300
Some folk struggle and keep making the same mistakes. They _can_ eventually get better (if they commit and dinnae suffer bad luck), but they still need hope and support.
Without that, folk can give up which can lead tae a downward spirial.
@darthlazurus4382 true. It comes down to your own resources and situation. If you are trying to give them a hand up, and all they do is try to drag you down with them, it's time to back off. When you see they are making an honest effort, sure. Give them some help. If they don't, it will be wasted effort.
You can only give people so many “second chances” before enough’s enough and they have to fend for themselves.
Lady, you tried to stop them taking him to a hospital. Even if you're not abusive, it's suspicious.
She knew his file was flagged. That was why. I would have acted the same way tbh, CPS isn't ways fair.
at first considering it’s America I thought the medical bill. As free medical health care dose not exist. Then she mentioned her ex who she has a restraining order on then that made a bit more sense. She would be trying to keep her son and herself safe from her ex. I think what the most important thing to take away from this don't judge too quickly. Before understanding the full picture of the situation.
@@Nyxia88 You would deny your child medical attention they need because of a flagged file? and the reason his file was flagged is because she was an alcoholic and it was an abusive environment he was removed from. CPS actually had reason to act then and they had reason to act now. she tried to deny her kid medical attention
in my experience doctors cause HARM more often then help. I am permanently and severely disabled from medical abuse. Doctors only need to know how to dismiss,invalidate and gas light.
@@Nyxia88 so deny your child medical care instead of ever taking him to the hospital. That sounds smart.
We really love , and respect our Firefighters and all the rescue teams ! They work so hard , so fearlessly to save our lives , properties , and lands !
may God protect you all !
The title is very misleading. There was no family tragedy. CPS jumped the gun and yes, they took the kid, but as soon as they checked things out they returned him. He was gone a day at the most. Stop with the clickbait titles.
It was still a traumatic experience that probably didn't need to happen
Also, parenthood is not easy with emergency services who are indoctrinated FIRST to do the task, then investigate, though most are court forbidden if this was done for some scam.
Not clickbait
So the trauma they both endured and will continue to live with was okay with you? That kid was ripped away from the only safety he knows while hurt. He won't feel safe needing medical care from that point on.
"That rail is gonna give any minute." I'd say it pretty much already did.🤦🏻♀️
I think they meant from the mom’s grip
@@dejaypage1575 Possibly
That kid looks more like a third to fifth grader not a kindergarten
He repeated a few times
That's a typical thing. Where they cast someone older to play someone younger than they are.
Yeah it’s all in the teeth. He already has grown up front teeth instead of baby teeth. Most kids don’t loose those til they’re 6 or 7. He’s already grown his in.
Some kids develop a lot sooner than other kids though
@@tamrixa8235I was either 10 or 11 when I finally had all mine
The tragedy is being taken away from his mother. But his mom was flagged in the system.
It still needed more investigation before a decision was made
anyone feel bad for the firewoman trying to her job but got pushed away by the other firemen when they were saving the boy on the balcony?
She’s still in training
6:19 How about a lawyer? What's a paramedic gonna about CPS case?
I mean, ideally you'd have a lawyer on retainer, but obviously she isn't in a financial state to do that. And actually, as someone whose worked in a field that has to report to the DCFS and OIG of Illinois any possibility of abuse to a minor/individual who is in a state vulnerable to abuse/neglect/exploitation? The law that requires someone in said positions to be mandated reporters also happens to make the reporter a key witness, who is often called in to explain why they made the report and asked about the situation in general. So, in terms of legality in the State of Illinois and Cook County, every first responder there was a mandated reporter, and, while better contacted through a lawyer? Has weight based on their witness testimony in any hearing regarding this incident in regards to it being a case of neglect. And EMTs are usually the first go to due to training in looking for signs of abuse/neglect/etc.
They experienced the event that led to the case being opened. They're 100% going to be asked to answer questions and, if it goes that far, testify in the case. Asking them and showing them that he's properly cared for will lead to a good report on their part in the case. Especially considering she doesn't appear to be in a financial state to have her own lawyer and would have to use a lawyer provided by the state, who may not be as lenient or try as hard. Every witness who can give a good word increases her chances of it being thrown out.
@@jorleejack right on point, it's just that OP doesn't understand that, in a genuine criminal case, "I have a Lawyer" means very little unless one side has a public defender and the other has Johnny Cochran. People show up to be a witness either because they witnessed the event and want to just share whatever info they have to get multiple POVs in physical altercations, they witnessed it and have bias for either side, or they're required/mandated/requested to do so. OP seems to think you can actually tell any police officer "I want to see my lawyer first" and they just go hands off cuz you have a 5th amendment right to not speak, but not a right to override being injured/Involved in some aspect of a crime and not be asked to testify.
I am the Field Medical Officer for a Search and Rescue/Recovery and Rapid Disaster Response Team as the PA-Field Level-1 Trauma Specialist. When children are involved in these cases (got lost, was kidnapped or run away.... if there's injury) the word/ testimony of the responding crew (Police, fire, Paramedics, SAR, etc) and their observations while on scene can significantly help or hurt the parent's case regarding abuse depending on the situation. Experienced professionals carry a good amount of weight.
1:11 *gasps and cover my eyes*
was this episode about child abuse or rampant misogyny? it starts with the female firefighter getting held back and belittled at every turn, the doctor condescendingly interrupts the female paramedic, they assume the mother's AA sponsor is a man, i don't think there's a single woman in this entire clip who's actually taken seriously.
You need to watch the show. Cause you are off the mark.
Dawson (the female candidate) is hopping from Ambo to Truck. She had a habit on Ambo as being a bit of a wild card/maverick. Played by her own rules a chunk of the time and she has a habit of believing she's in the right even when she's dead wrong. In later seasons, it's shown that she makes MASSIVE decisions without even involving her SO when it directly involves him. She's a bit of a narcissist and can be very reckless.
Lt Casey (Man in charge on the scene) is dating her. Which makes it problematic on so many levels. He cannot be directly in charge of her, so he puts Hermann in charge of her in the field and in the house training.
In the firehouse she can do things, but out on calls, she can only observe and help where Hermann or Lt Casey allow it.
She is a candidate, which means she is primo rookie, she CANNOT do the things the other firefighters on scene can. It's like asking a first year medical student to work the ER during a crisis. If she f@cks up, people die.
@@draconiclady0610ahh thank you. I was getting so fuckin pissed off until I read this comment. Dunno why RUclips suddenly recommended this to me but I wish they'd pin your comment before the show gets hate for no reason
@@draconiclady0610 What about the paramedic though?
Better safe than sorry. Nobody wants to hear about the death of another kid at the hands of a parent.
More investigation needs to be done before you can justify putting the child through the trauma of being separated from his mother
Yeah. Much better to hear about when its foster parents doing the unaliving. 🙄
@ yeah, there’s that horror too. Good point.
@@CarsonThompsom-o2iso that the kid can potentially be in harms way while the investigation happens?
How does one get their head stuck between bars like that? I feel like if you can get it in you should be able to get it out.
The ears bend back when you stick your head in, but the bars get stuck behind them when you try to pull your head back out. Happened to me when I was little. Thankfully, it was just the front steps and not the balcony of an apparent several stories up.
@@Michelle-DiPalo Huh I suppose that makes sense, but then can't you just use your hands to pin your ears to your head as you slowly pull back? I'd test this theory but I don't wanna get stuck if I'm wrong.
@stephwiller9089 I think we tried, but then your hands are in the way, also blocking the way out
Kids are stupid and creative
@ That makes sense. I suppose you could try taping them down lol.
0:27 into this and am no a structural engineer or anything of the sort but the extendable 3 splice ladder on the side of the truck could be opened up and jammed in the ground and extended to hold the railing in place. not a solution but will take off some of the pressure of the mother holding on.
Still confuses me why hermann knocked like seriously she could not answer the door
Checking to see if he has the correct apartment
Making sure he had correct apartment
@@christieroberts4360 plus it's standard procedure.
@@danbetley And he didn't know if no one else was in the apartment who couldn't just open the door for him.
@@christieroberts4360 Yeah, its hard to judge which apatment is which from the inside of the building, you didn't want to go busting down the wrong door.
Sorry, the mom is holding the railing, and the firefighter knocks on the door? WHO DOES HE THINK WAS GOING TO ANSWER?!
He's checking to see if he has the correct apartment
@@danbetley Okayy, but if he gets the wrong one and apologises - after he's saved the kid. Priorities?
Kicking in the wrong door would cause problems@@rendezvouzwithrama
@@lctamoya Which are? Surely the priority is saving the boy's life?
@@rendezvouzwithramayes there are priorities but it doesn't mean that they hav to vandalize everything right?( No offense) 😬
That child + railing shouldn't be so heavy that it requires the mom + 3 full grown men. Even the mom by herself should be able to pull it back, she's not lifting but Pulling. 😂
Wouldnt a social worker be involved here? Tae at least investigate what happened, make sure that there no sign of abuse or negligence?
CPS got involved at the hospital- there was a past history of abuse and mother was an alcoholic, which was why the mother didn't want her son going because she knew it would be flagged and he would be taken from her even though this time it truly was an accident.
Once it was concluded to actually be a genuine accident, and not abuse hidden as 'accident' the boy was returned to his mother
Yeah, doctors don't keep CPS records
Couldn't the mother or the firefighters just pull the railing back to eliminate the fall risk?
They could have broke his neck tho which is why they played it slow
@@solar.690 they didn't seem very concerned about breaking his neck when they took the c-collar off and had him turn his head before he'd gotten an x-ray
I assume it's very heavy or the mother would have tried that already
@dietotaku I noticed that. I got whiplash once. They wouldn't let me out of that dang thing until I got an xray. Seemed a bit premature.
@@dietotakuI was in a car accident once and even though my neck was fine, they didn't take that thing off till they were absolutely sure my neck was fine
Man.. Hearing Chase with an American accent is weird. Shoulda just had him still be Australian. 😂
Ok so that is Chase 😂 thought I was tripping cuz I'm like, why is he doing an American accent lol
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Are we just gonna ignore the fact that what’s his name was doing everything instead of letting his probe help like dude if you want her to learn you gotta let her do it. You can’t do everything yourself. It was pissing me off.😂
I feel really bad😢
Dawson is not happy but needs to realize that there are times for hands-on training and times for observational training.
Iam new to this, this firefighter lady is so gorgeous, yet in my eyes, she's like a real vampire❤
My favourite show especially Taylor Kinney
They sure are walking casually in this situation
The mother should have let him go to the hospital he couldn’t move his neck !
lmao how you get your head stuck in there anyway? LMAO
That kid looks like Miko Hughes.
part 2 needed!
What is this railing made off?
Solid granite?
They have 3 people + rope to hold it
Solid iron, which is also very heavy. Especially at that angle it’d be hard to pull up
@greenbeantm1096 then its terrible design cause that thing should be hollow to:
>Spare material
>Reduce weight
>Reduce tools usage to cut it
2:36 can someone explain to me why everyone is being difficult towards that firefighter
How did that boy wind up in a fix like that?
Likely putting his head through tae look at something. A bit of a cockroach hotel, he could get in, but not out.
@@darthlazurus4382 in the video the mother said he was spying on the neighbors
Kids sometimes do the impossible
So did she get the kids back or not?
How did the kid get his head stuck like that in the first place?
If you watched the video you’d know
@AutisticPrime-2.0 I only watched this clip, I didn't hear about any explanation how it happened
@@alexdale2387I'm not sure, but people like the one that responded to you shouldn't be responding to anyone for any reason. Rude.
@RachaelScarbrough no doubt, it's a fair enough question, and honestly, I wasn't thrilled with that persons response either
It’s classic me and the boys shenanigans of will this body part fit in this small hole and come out
Does medical bills don’t play
Judging her didn't help she didn't want him to go to the hospital bcz any time he goes cps takes him it's harassment I'd b pissed
So where is christie?
WHAT'S WITH THE MISLEADING TITLE?....THERE WAS NO "FAMILY TRAGEDY".....THE KID WAS FINE....HE'S DOING JUST FINE....
I don't really see how that railing was holding on.. especially since they only tied one side and then just abandoned holding it altogether. Also everything in that fridge looked like it was bought brand new. 15 minutes you talked to your AA sponsor? I would have taken a closer look at the chat history and see how often not when was the last time. The only thing I felt for in this clip was the female firefighter that was getting pushed aside and ignored.
I respect firefighters who saves lives above themselves and should be respected and rescue teams their also one of the reasons why I want to save lives
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No way she is 28/29!
Fucking finally someone else did the math🤣
She looks like she still 19
@ the mum? No way!
This show is always so silly
I been watching the videos u have for 9999 hours
That’s is completely false, EMS do NOT have the right to transport a minor to the hospital if the parents have legal custody of the child and doesn’t want the child to be transported. It would be illegal for EMS to go against the parent’s choice.
Really ? So they would let a child die because of parents stinginess
@@marionarda2790 It happens, unfortunately.
@@marionarda2790 Yes, legally we have to. Can call your supervisor or captain to explain the situation, but ultimately it’s up the parents. I would definitely let PD and CPS know about it though.
Typical CPS taking kids away without investigating
They took him away because there was a history of abuse and she was an alcoholic. they needed to be sure he was somewhere safe.
when it was concluded to be an actual accident and not abuse disguised as an accident the kid was given back
Why is his head in the rail.😊
Children can be pretty dumb 😂
She said he was spying on the neighbors below them. Dumb? he's 5 years old. That's curiosity.
Help that kid quickly
What part of they could break his neck did you not understand?
um, Mother has the right to refuse medical care. if abuse is suspected and it is emergent, PD can place child in protective custody. if its not emergent, CPS needs to be contacted. there is nothing wrong with a 5 year old to be on the balcony with the parent inside aware of what the child is doing.
Doesn't matter still fucked up not to get medical care
This is a perfect example of why a 5yo can’t play on the balcony alone
@@rebeksyo it would have broken even if mom was there right there. in a MAINTAINED building a 5 year old can be on a balcony with mom aware from inside
Refusing medical care in this case would be neglect 😂
@@greenbeantm1096 no, the child was not exhibiting any life threatening issues.
Misleading video caption..... There was no tragedy.... 🙄
I suppose it wasn't tragic that the woman lost her child?
I know if I had lost mine it would feel like a true tragedy. Its amazing how true to life some TV shows are portrayed.
@@Destiny1stand she got him back in the end, so no tragedy. Plus if she really did lose it it’d be because they determined he wasn’t in a safe environment, so still no tragedy
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Here’s a idea and this is thinking real hard, he push and all three of them pull the frickin gate, god tv is getting dumber 😆
“If we straighten it completely it could snap his neck” god RUclipsr commenters really are getting dumber 😂
What is wrong with this mum?
she knew if he went to the hospital child protective services would get involved. there is a history of abuse so when the kid was admitted to hospital it flagged
😢😢 So sucj 11 Psn Henniez 3.
Honestly she’s a terrible mother who has endangered her kid before and especially this time with the incident
From what i heard it was alot more complicated than just pulling it
That railing would weight nothing to a real mother saving her child.
Possibly. But she also had no way of both holding him and freeing him safely! So glad he was OK in the end.
They could have raised the fire truck ladder and leaned it against the falling gate to prevent it from falling. But it's Hollywood sooo🙄
They could hit the kid
Sober chips? Please. Not all of us are dumb enough to go to AA 37% success but conveniently AA claims 75% riiiiight
No one said everyone goes. Hence why she was asked “do you by any chance have a chip?”