I have Asperger's, when a secondary school student, I underlined all the wrong information in a science book and every time my teacher read a wrong fact I put up my hand to correct him - he wrote the book. I had no idea I might make myself unpopular by telling the truth, by contradicting people. They should do this exp. on autistic people.
There's no real reason to. Autistic people are the exception and not the rule, and with a huge amount of variability between one autistic person and another in terms of functioning, you'd never get reliable results in a study like this
A very similar study was done. It was found that "Autistic individuals and [neurotypical] controls were [equally] as likely to alter their judgements to align with inaccurate responses of group members": link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10803-018-3809-1
@@Haligonian thanks for telling me about the article. However, I disagree with the findings. The difference isn't between a desire for conformity, which I think they measured and I agree are likely equal in people whether or not they are on the autism spectrum, but an obliviousness or blindness to the social signals that call for conformity. In the experiment, both groups, were clearly and equally aware that there was pressure to conform. The signal was clear, unambiguous. However, I think why I didn't conform and why autistic people are less likely to conform, is they will miss the subtle non-verbal social signals that indicate they should conform. For example, when in college I was often left behind when my classmates left a pub. This was, I think, because I didn't notice or pay attention to the subtle indicators that indicated people were getting ready to leave. I didn't notice empty dink glasses, I didn't notice them packing their bags, I didn't notice them putting on coats or jackets, or if I did see that I didn't understand it's meaning. Conformity depends on noticing other people, their behaviours, and feeling part of a group. The experimenters I think didn't test this. As for my memory of correcting my Science teacher, it's possible other students in the class were laughing at me, sniggering, or looking at me with facial expressions indicating I had broken a rule, that I was rude. But I didn't notice that. If I did, I probably would have conformed. Also, similarly, researchers tested if autistic people are equally susceptible to contagious yawning. They had an actor in a room with non-autistic or autistic people, who yawned. They made sure both groups saw the person yawning. They of course found that non-autistic and autistic people were equally susceptible to contagious yawning, but it was I think, flawed in the same way the conformity experiment was. They should have not let the test groups to know what they were about yo look at see, perhaps plant the yawner among 5 other non-yawners, autistic people would pay less attention to the actor and not notice the yawn in the first place.
For anyone who wishes to know, this is a very nice replication of Mr. Asch's classic experiment on conformity (I won't re-explain the procedure). There are really two possible outcomes, Subject one displayed Normative social influence, he conformed to the answer simply not to stand out. Other subjects will possibly undergo Informational social influence where they actually believe the group is right and that they are perceiving the lines wrong or missunderstood the directions.
It's been 15 years since you wrote this comment and I'm here from the future to tell you, bro, we lived this experiment in real life... And what's even worse is that while everyone who reads this comment will know exactly what events I'm talking about, the majority who got it wrong, won't realize that they were the majority who got it wrong, they still believe they got it right.
Ohhhh Wowwww... Hearing about it on TheraminTrees' video about Conformity is one thing... but seeing their tortured expressions, their shaking heads... seeing their confusion and angst is very moving!
David Icke talks about this. He uses an analogy of sheep and a sheep dog that keeps them in line... eventually, the sheep dog is not an external person, but in our own heads.
Also know as the "firehouse phenomenon" after studies that noted firemen in the same firehouse tend to have the same social and political views. In addition, these views appear to be not very deep, or well thought out. It is speculated that because of the long hours spent together, this ideational conformity helps to reduce conflicts and build working cohesiveness. This process is largely self directed and unconscious. It may also help explain why innovative thinkers tend to be loners.
There is a difference between. Beeing able to reasonable withstand against the masses can be a sign for confidence, intelligence and good judgement. Abilities suited for an alpha male. The question is if you are non-conformist by any means or that you just question everything around yourself. A thin line.
TheMathGuy, so very true, and also at the expenditure of unneccesary energy it would be more wise to "choose ones' battles". the experiment lacks the full scope of resilience in truly moralistic concepts where one would be deciding against a larger group when perhaps a person's life is at stake (which would indeed paint a more definitive picture in whther humans fall into this conformity, based on prolonged exposure & resistance of)
"Think for yourself and question authority", even if it comes in the form of consensual authoritarian opinion of your peers... And no, non-conformists don't die in evolutionary terms, because otherwise there wouldn't have been any non-conformists today. Instead, they always represent the avant-garde of society, their ideas cause paradigm shifts and they are usually recognised long after their death (think Galileo, Bruno, Da Vinci)
Were they really non-conformist though? Or could other underlying factors have kept them from conforming like loneliness and antisocial behavior derived from something other than nonconformity
This is interesting. I think this has to wanting to be part of an in-group and not wanting to be perceived as an out-group member. I think we all do it some degree or not, whether we like to admit it or not.
@DeimosSaturn This one is a classic in social psychology (almost from the fifties) and has been remade and re-articulated dozens of times around the world.
no but they would have to argue, or they think they would be up to scrutiny (which theyre not interested in) if they gave an answer that's not in line. that's what i meant with getting over it faster. the conforming part of that is only secondary, its a mean to the end of: getting the fuck out of that room with as little hassle as possible.
We all owe it to ourselves to not conform to 'normal' syndrome of society. As George Bernard Shaw said "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man".
well there was the kitty murder in newyork in the 1960's were about 19 people watched for 30mins as she was stabbed to death before even calling the cops
that's what i said to myself, too LOL ... you pegged the relevant question... how to win this...i wish more people asked this question... they usually complain & insult some group that offends them LOL... accdg to my PSY class, the Asch experiment that this is based on resulted in a 24% non conformity and a 76% conformity rate... so yeah, perhaps the solution is to chip away at changing the status quo in bits through parenting, educating & the media messages we send/respond to etc... laws too
Actually this is a variation of a classic study (I'm doing a psychology degree and this came up recently). The whole point is that it's *not* an optical illusion, there really is only one answer that's really obviously right and the others are really obviously wrong. If the answer were ambiguous or subjective then it'd be a different study. The point of this study is can they, purely through peer pressure, get people to give an answer that they can see with their own eyes is wrong.
Maybe its compliance. Maybe its failure to resist an authority/majority, fear of being mocked (odd one out, blind, stupid)-avoidance of negative consequences.Also, humans are funny animals.If someone you can connect with yawns, you will normally yawn as well. Are you complying though ? I think this baser instinct is a main motivator in this experiment, leading to an apparent temporary acceptance of a new norm (line length) they know is wrong/invalid. The reason for this is not pure conformity.
The problem here is that comformity isnt the only factor, or even in the biggest factor, i don't think. In this situation, i would have eventually given in because I would think I was doing it wrong if everyone else got the same wrong answer. Although that migt be a bit of comformity in itself- I would change my answer, thinking i was doing it wrong, because i wouldnt want to look stupid infront of other people. I suppose the same thing happens, for example, in a class president vote. Everyone says they'lll vote for so and so so i would vote for him/her either because i don't want to get glares from people should they find out i picked the other guy, or i would pick him/her because i would know everyone else is picking him/her, and even if i picked the other person, it was ultimately fruitless anyway. might as well pick the winner's lane.
@MrJoshmadd yes there is. you cannot confor to a non conformist lifestyle cos every non conformist is differant , there is no accepted "non conformist trend/lifestyle/choice" non conformist is just being outside of the group, the people outside the group don't have to share any triats whatsoever
I have to be skeptical of anything this experiment purports to demonstrate. It seems more likely the subject is more confused about what the instructions are rather than perceiving a line to be longer or shorter than it actually is. Try this experiment again with the instructions clearly printed above the cards with the lines and compare the results to this experiment.
I know what he means. I doubt I would cave on this particular test, because it's just a silly line--who cares? And most of the time I couldn't care less what everyone else thinks. But then I know I've occasionally been in situations where appearance was important to me and I pretended to agree with everyone else just to avoid rocking the boat. Sometimes disagreeing just isn't worth the energy expenditure. Nobody is totally immune to this. It's part of being a homo sapien.
@ReligiousFiction yea it's intense.. kill your own will as to not seem apart, fear of being alone in thought can cause someone to give up their own thoughts all together in order to adopt the comfortable conformity, crazy
This is how fashion trends occur. As an outsider, we can look at other cultures (whether geographically or chronologically) and think "How is that attractive?" At times, beehives, afros, spit curls, rat tails, mullets, undercuts, etc. were "cool" & many people had them, oblivious to how ridiculous it looked. More extreme examples are neck rings, foot binding, tooth filing, piercings, etc. The same goes for many other trends: clothes, slang, politics, religion, race & gender relations, music...
Were any of the participants plants? Without incorrect answers coming from the first couple, the study would be nill. Of course they would all conform if the previous person always picked the obvious right answer.
Okay but…in the video it definitely looks like when he did it by hand that 3 is closer in length to the stimulus line but when they showed what it in clear blocks it was so obvious. Probably because of how grainy and old the footage was but for a second I was like…..wait up…..
This suppose to be a remake of Solomon Asch's work from 1951? People weren't just conforming, over time they actually doubted themselves and accepted the "logic" of the group as truth.
There was no benefit to bucking the trend so the subject acquiesced for social compensation of feeling normal. Pay the subject enough money or other valuables for getting the right answer and he'll fight the trend of those actors longer. A rich guy would typically need more pay to feel justified standing up for the right answer than a poor person who the money would mean more to. But no benefit and it's just like expecting a minimum wage worker to do extra work while a fellow coworker wastes resources from a huge corporation to do tasks quicker. An extra 2 seconds to take the reusable silverware off the disposable plates before tossing them? But no one cares so it starts to become not my problem either. Investors don't care enough to speak up about systemic waste so why should the lowly worker?
if they were to write a report about this, im pretty damn sure they would mention how everyone was giving wrong answers. its not like the people are idiots. they didnt actually honestly conform, since they knew it was fucked up somehow. conforming is believing, they didnt believe, they played along. thats not conforming.
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@911FalseFlagTerror01 Ususally people just complain about conformity and try to be different because it makes them look cool anyway. Ironically, saying that conformity is a good thing makes you somewhat of a no-conformist.
People are robots. Even the well educated, rebels, skeptics, high knowledge about psychology, individuals, high level of self awareness are probably robots.
Everyone conforms. There are people who mistakenly get credit for being non-conformists, but most of them are just like eachtother. The only reasons they're "being different" are because it makes them cool or because their friends are "being different" and they want to be like their friends.
I wonder if this is conformity, or does the individual, on hearing everyone else's response, consider that he may have understood the rules incorrectly, and changing his answer thusly?
I think the guy in this video was over thinking it. The reason someone would go along with the rest of the group is for fear of looking stupid. If they're the only one seeing it differently, it's natural to think that you must be making some kind of a mistake.
No, its not in line at all. It's a different kind of conformity here. Not at all comparable to large-scale phenomenons such as the Third Reich or the current situation in the USA. This experiment is but a tiny fraction of the whole thing. And yes, their reasoning is important. Conformity implies some kind of permanance, because otherwise its mimicry amirite ? So.
I absolutely believe people are culturally conditioned to conform, but I don't think this is exactly a fair representation of that...they are dealing with optical illusions. Try it again with some type of amoral, circumstantial opinion-based questions (i.e. "what would you do" or "would you ___ in this situation," etc.), and see true conformity in action.
and doctor titanis or whatever his name was, did not decide to "find out". its not his experiment, hes only pulling it off and repeating it like some cheap street performer.
Tell me: do you think that the phenomenon can correspond to "normally rational" people doing things that they would, on reflection, consider wrong? Also, "failure to resist an authority/majority, fear of being mocked (odd one out, blind, stupid)-avoidance of negative consequences", these are potential causes/excuses, but that doesn't give us a new behavior or action that's not "conformity". Conformity is a behavior. Conformism is a belief. And this is a terrible-looking video.
I have Asperger's, when a secondary school student, I underlined all the wrong information in a science book and every time my teacher read a wrong fact I put up my hand to correct him - he wrote the book.
I had no idea I might make myself unpopular by telling the truth, by contradicting people. They should do this exp. on autistic people.
There's no real reason to. Autistic people are the exception and not the rule, and with a huge amount of variability between one autistic person and another in terms of functioning, you'd never get reliable results in a study like this
A very similar study was done. It was found that "Autistic individuals and [neurotypical] controls were [equally] as likely to alter their judgements to align with inaccurate responses of group members": link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10803-018-3809-1
@@Haligonian thanks for telling me about the article. However, I disagree with the findings. The difference isn't between a desire for conformity, which I think they measured and I agree are likely equal in people whether or not they are on the autism spectrum, but an obliviousness or blindness to the social signals that call for conformity.
In the experiment, both groups, were clearly and equally aware that there was pressure to conform. The signal was clear, unambiguous. However, I think why I didn't conform and why autistic people are less likely to conform, is they will miss the subtle non-verbal social signals that indicate they should conform.
For example, when in college I was often left behind when my classmates left a pub. This was, I think, because I didn't notice or pay attention to the subtle indicators that indicated people were getting ready to leave. I didn't notice empty dink glasses, I didn't notice them packing their bags, I didn't notice them putting on coats or jackets, or if I did see that I didn't understand it's meaning.
Conformity depends on noticing other people, their behaviours, and feeling part of a group. The experimenters I think didn't test this.
As for my memory of correcting my Science teacher, it's possible other students in the class were laughing at me, sniggering, or looking at me with facial expressions indicating I had broken a rule, that I was rude. But I didn't notice that. If I did, I probably would have conformed.
Also, similarly, researchers tested if autistic people are equally susceptible to contagious yawning. They had an actor in a room with non-autistic or autistic people, who yawned. They made sure both groups saw the person yawning. They of course found that non-autistic and autistic people were equally susceptible to contagious yawning, but it was I think, flawed in the same way the conformity experiment was. They should have not let the test groups to know what they were about yo look at see, perhaps plant the yawner among 5 other non-yawners, autistic people would pay less attention to the actor and not notice the yawn in the first place.
I conformed with the rest of the crowd and "liked" this video
Same
Its not just conformity. We did studied this in Psychology 100 - people begin to doubt their own judgement
gaslighting
Its a form of conformity
For anyone who wishes to know, this is a very nice replication of Mr. Asch's classic experiment on conformity (I won't re-explain the procedure). There are really two possible outcomes, Subject one displayed Normative social influence, he conformed to the answer simply not to stand out. Other subjects will possibly undergo Informational social influence where they actually believe the group is right and that they are perceiving the lines wrong or missunderstood the directions.
It's been 15 years since you wrote this comment and I'm here from the future to tell you, bro, we lived this experiment in real life...
And what's even worse is that while everyone who reads this comment will know exactly what events I'm talking about, the majority who got it wrong, won't realize that they were the majority who got it wrong, they still believe they got it right.
Ohhhh Wowwww...
Hearing about it on TheraminTrees' video about Conformity is one thing... but seeing their tortured expressions, their shaking heads... seeing their confusion and angst is very moving!
Message: Always Defy The Group; Never Give In !!
David Icke talks about this. He uses an analogy of sheep and a sheep dog that keeps them in line... eventually, the sheep dog is not an external person, but in our own heads.
Also know as the "firehouse phenomenon" after studies that noted firemen in the same firehouse tend to have the same social and political views. In addition, these views appear to be not very deep, or well thought out. It is speculated that because of the long hours spent together, this ideational conformity helps to reduce conflicts and build working cohesiveness. This process is largely self directed and unconscious. It may also help explain why innovative thinkers tend to be loners.
This is what you see every freakin' day in society!
Him who controlls the media controlls our lifes ...
Damn 14 years ago! Your statement is as true if not more true today unfortunately and people are asleep.
Poor guy, you can see him shake his head but relent to the peer pressure 😢
Exactly for it started. Conformity is a powerful force.
I only watched this for psych class, and I loved it!
There is a difference between. Beeing able to reasonable withstand against the masses can be a sign for confidence, intelligence and good judgement. Abilities suited for an alpha male. The question is if you are non-conformist by any means or that you just question everything around yourself. A thin line.
TheMathGuy,
so very true, and also at the expenditure of unneccesary energy it would be more wise to "choose ones' battles". the experiment lacks the full scope of resilience in truly moralistic concepts where one would be deciding against a larger group when perhaps a person's life is at stake (which would indeed paint a more definitive picture in whther humans fall into this conformity, based on prolonged exposure & resistance of)
I got an advertisement about "not missing out on crypto" right before this video on conformity lollll psychology at its finest
"Think for yourself and question authority", even if it comes in the form of consensual authoritarian opinion of your peers...
And no, non-conformists don't die in evolutionary terms, because otherwise there wouldn't have been any non-conformists today. Instead, they always represent the avant-garde of society, their ideas cause paradigm shifts and they are usually recognised long after their death (think Galileo, Bruno, Da Vinci)
Were they really non-conformist though? Or could other underlying factors have kept them from conforming like loneliness and antisocial behavior derived from something other than nonconformity
This is interesting. I think this has to wanting to be part of an in-group and not wanting to be perceived as an out-group member. I think we all do it some degree or not, whether we like to admit it or not.
This video just proves to me why I love conforming and why I'm going to keep doing it
most subjects start out defying the group, but after repeated trials many of them begin to conform
@DeimosSaturn
This one is a classic in social psychology (almost from the fifties) and has been remade and re-articulated dozens of times around the world.
no but they would have to argue, or they think they would be up to scrutiny (which theyre not interested in) if they gave an answer that's not in line. that's what i meant with getting over it faster. the conforming part of that is only secondary, its a mean to the end of: getting the fuck out of that room with as little hassle as possible.
We all owe it to ourselves to not conform to 'normal' syndrome of society. As George Bernard Shaw said "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man".
for example: whos to say they arent "conforming" only to get over with it faster, but if not pressured would answer otherwise.
trust me, all my friends do!
Really makes you think twice about not trusting yourself.
Me and my group of people stopped conforming. Now everyone else needs to as well.
well there was the kitty murder in newyork in the 1960's were about 19 people watched for 30mins as she was stabbed to death before even calling the cops
that's what i said to myself, too LOL ... you pegged the relevant question... how to win this...i wish more people asked this question... they usually complain & insult some group that offends them LOL... accdg to my PSY class, the Asch experiment that this is based on resulted in a 24% non conformity and a 76% conformity rate... so yeah, perhaps the solution is to chip away at changing the status quo in bits through parenting, educating & the media messages we send/respond to etc... laws too
No, because they clearly explain what they have to do.
Actually this is a variation of a classic study (I'm doing a psychology degree and this came up recently). The whole point is that it's *not* an optical illusion, there really is only one answer that's really obviously right and the others are really obviously wrong. If the answer were ambiguous or subjective then it'd be a different study. The point of this study is can they, purely through peer pressure, get people to give an answer that they can see with their own eyes is wrong.
oooh... this sounds fascinating... i'll have to look this up, thanks
Maybe its compliance. Maybe its failure to resist an authority/majority, fear of being mocked (odd one out, blind, stupid)-avoidance of negative consequences.Also, humans are funny animals.If someone you can connect with yawns, you will normally yawn as well. Are you complying though ? I think this baser instinct is a main motivator in this experiment, leading to an apparent temporary acceptance of a new norm (line length) they know is wrong/invalid. The reason for this is not pure conformity.
This is just shocking!
The problem here is that comformity isnt the only factor, or even in the biggest factor, i don't think. In this situation, i would have eventually given in because I would think I was doing it wrong if everyone else got the same wrong answer. Although that migt be a bit of comformity in itself- I would change my answer, thinking i was doing it wrong, because i wouldnt want to look stupid infront of other people. I suppose the same thing happens, for example, in a class president vote. Everyone says they'lll vote for so and so so i would vote for him/her either because i don't want to get glares from people should they find out i picked the other guy, or i would pick him/her because i would know everyone else is picking him/her, and even if i picked the other person, it was ultimately fruitless anyway. might as well pick the winner's lane.
This is actually called social conformity and this is the only factor!
This testing was way too hard for me. Whew! Back to American Idol.
Now factor in the threat of losing life support for those who don't conform.
People are not as individual as the believe this explains how people can be apart of an group they know is wrong...
@MrJoshmadd yes there is.
you cannot confor to a non conformist lifestyle cos every non conformist is differant , there is no accepted "non conformist trend/lifestyle/choice" non conformist is just being outside of the group, the people outside the group don't have to share any triats whatsoever
I wonder if elderly people would give in too.
I'am 55+ and I would sure feel the force to conform, but I might not do so.
sad reflection. Stay strong people.
I have to be skeptical of anything this experiment purports to demonstrate. It seems more likely the subject is more confused about what the instructions are rather than perceiving a line to be longer or shorter than it actually is. Try this experiment again with the instructions clearly printed above the cards with the lines and compare the results to this experiment.
That is a Damn good Question!!!!
I know what he means. I doubt I would cave on this particular test, because it's just a silly line--who cares? And most of the time I couldn't care less what everyone else thinks. But then I know I've occasionally been in situations where appearance was important to me and I pretended to agree with everyone else just to avoid rocking the boat. Sometimes disagreeing just isn't worth the energy expenditure. Nobody is totally immune to this. It's part of being a homo sapien.
@ReligiousFiction
yea it's intense.. kill your own will as to not seem apart, fear of being alone in thought can cause someone to give up their own thoughts all together in order to adopt the comfortable conformity, crazy
that is a good point.
Interesting indeed
We had that test few years back i think it was called abu ghraib scandal.
Of course, all of them where plants, except for the 1 giving the correct answers until they conformed.
This is how fashion trends occur. As an outsider, we can look at other cultures (whether geographically or chronologically) and think "How is that attractive?" At times, beehives, afros, spit curls, rat tails, mullets, undercuts, etc. were "cool" & many people had them, oblivious to how ridiculous it looked.
More extreme examples are neck rings, foot binding, tooth filing, piercings, etc.
The same goes for many other trends: clothes, slang, politics, religion, race & gender relations, music...
Were any of the participants plants? Without incorrect answers coming from the first couple, the study would be nill. Of course they would all conform if the previous person always picked the obvious right answer.
Okay but…in the video it definitely looks like when he did it by hand that 3 is closer in length to the stimulus line but when they showed what it in clear blocks it was so obvious. Probably because of how grainy and old the footage was but for a second I was like…..wait up…..
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
This suppose to be a remake of Solomon Asch's work from 1951? People weren't just conforming, over time they actually doubted themselves and accepted the "logic" of the group as truth.
Does anyone know when this specific experiment was conducted/recorded?
There was no benefit to bucking the trend so the subject acquiesced for social compensation of feeling normal. Pay the subject enough money or other valuables for getting the right answer and he'll fight the trend of those actors longer. A rich guy would typically need more pay to feel justified standing up for the right answer than a poor person who the money would mean more to. But no benefit and it's just like expecting a minimum wage worker to do extra work while a fellow coworker wastes resources from a huge corporation to do tasks quicker. An extra 2 seconds to take the reusable silverware off the disposable plates before tossing them? But no one cares so it starts to become not my problem either. Investors don't care enough to speak up about systemic waste so why should the lowly worker?
I use this video in class and the captions could use some help Will you allow me access temporarily to fix the issues
surprised to get a comment on this so many years later. try this: ruclips.net/user/timedtext_video?v=-qlJqR4GmKw&ref=share
if they were to write a report about this, im pretty damn sure they would mention how everyone was giving wrong answers. its not like the people are idiots. they didnt actually honestly conform, since they knew it was fucked up somehow. conforming is believing, they didnt believe, they played along. thats not conforming.
From what I understand we have a fear of being alienated because of our innate biological requirement for social contact.
Is everyone else in these experiments subjects or just the non-conformists?
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follow the beat of your own drum ...even though when compared to others the beat is a little off.
@911FalseFlagTerror01 Ususally people just complain about conformity and try to be different because it makes them look cool anyway. Ironically, saying that conformity is a good thing makes you somewhat of a no-conformist.
People are robots. Even the well educated, rebels, skeptics, high knowledge about psychology, individuals, high level of self awareness are probably robots.
CONFORM! then go fetch the oil.
GROUP THINK
they should try to do something else other than lines, like identifying animals
Way off topic I know, but an American guy wearing a Rangers football shirt?
Everyone conforms. There are people who mistakenly get credit for being non-conformists, but most of them are just like eachtother. The only reasons they're "being different" are because it makes them cool or because their friends are "being different" and they want to be like their friends.
@bexsullie wouldn't that be an oxymoron?
I wonder if this is conformity, or does the individual, on hearing everyone else's response, consider that he may have understood the rules incorrectly, and changing his answer thusly?
Now you know how religion works.
Not everyone will give in. Conformity is not everyone's first priority.
No, youre assuming the reason. I just explained how its not "social influence". Youll need to come up with another argument.
I think the guy in this video was over thinking it. The reason someone would go along with the rest of the group is for fear of looking stupid. If they're the only one seeing it differently, it's natural to think that you must be making some kind of a mistake.
dont conform...join the group of nonconformists united....yay!!!
No, its not in line at all. It's a different kind of conformity here. Not at all comparable to large-scale phenomenons such as the Third Reich or the current situation in the USA. This experiment is but a tiny fraction of the whole thing. And yes, their reasoning is important. Conformity implies some kind of permanance, because otherwise its mimicry amirite ? So.
Conform or be 'cast out'
2+2=5
@bexsullie you can't conform to non conformists, they are all differant
i still want t know how many people choose the 3rd option thats still wrong and anti-comformist
p.s. was i the first? i've been waiting myself for such an answer.
I absolutely believe people are culturally conditioned to conform, but I don't think this is exactly a fair representation of that...they are dealing with optical illusions. Try it again with some type of amoral, circumstantial opinion-based questions (i.e. "what would you do" or "would you ___ in this situation," etc.), and see true conformity in action.
And this is how postwar propaganda started...
fuck, how to win this...
Learn spiritualism, no matter what religion or sect you belong to.
wouldn't that be conforming into a nonconformist...
herd mentality...
and doctor titanis or whatever his name was, did not decide to "find out". its not his experiment, hes only pulling it off and repeating it like some cheap street performer.
Vote Obama. Resistance is futile.
@MrBastilleDay Made me laff :L
people are sheep
sheep
shit. its sad to see!
Tell me: do you think that the phenomenon can correspond to "normally rational" people doing things that they would, on reflection, consider wrong?
Also, "failure to resist an authority/majority, fear of being mocked (odd one out, blind, stupid)-avoidance of negative consequences", these are potential causes/excuses, but that doesn't give us a new behavior or action that's not "conformity".
Conformity is a behavior. Conformism is a belief.
And this is a terrible-looking video.