Zero mention of handling, on/off trail or anything specific? You do get called a wannabe or a legend in your own mind by Snowtrax tho. I guess we are all supposed to love the Polaris Switchback Assault like they do and ignore all else lol. Careful Lester.....your Indy Undies are showing. Totally useless review IMO.
@Roy Anderson.... I am neither zealot nor offended. Watch the "full review" again....there is almost no facts presented. I stand by my opinion that this was a very poor job at a review whether you like the brand/sled or not. Very little in that 5 minute rambling told me if it's a good sled or the worst thing man ever assembled? Name calling (wannabe/legend in one's mind) is very unprofessional of a journalist with 25 years experience no? At best this was a history lesson of past Renegade models and almost nothing of the current machine.
Dean Miller Boo hoo, they used to talk about Skidoo like that a few years ago when they held top spot. Now Polaris is on top and you’re crying that your ski poo isn’t the best anymore
great product but a terrible review... seriously what in the world was he even talking about, legends, wannabes... nothing on cornering ability, differences between last years gauges to this years, accessories, actual suspension performance. according to the description on the video tag line :(Motorhead Mark Lester gets race inspired and blasts the trails revealing all the details of Ski-Doo's 850 E-TEC powered Renegade X rs.) we saw all the details????
Mark has a way of rambling his way through a review without actually saying much of anything. It's basically his trademark at this point. His review of the zr 8000 rr is laughably useless.
The G4 plastics and that asinine aux LED headlight are the worst looking designs on the snow. They are nice sleds though and they look way better than the G4 wide body 900’s.
The 1.75 backcountry x is such an awesome track for the 137-class sleds. Shame the only one you can get it on from the factory is the goofy-ass switchback
Why is it every time they talk about the 850 Doo ‘it’s a formidable engine with good reliability’. Sounds like ford talking about their 5.0. But Polaris gets the Hennessy treatment of being the single greatest naturally aspirated two stroke.. I know these guys need to talk them all up but man. For engines so unbelievably close in performance in the real world not sure how one can be so great but the other isn’t on par. Next times I race my buddies 850 Poo I am posting it on RUclips. Tired of hearing how great the poo 850 is and far and away the best motor ever. I remember my buddy telling me he was gonna mop the floor with me.. never quite went that way. For the record cats 800 is good too. Maybe not quite there with poo and doo but doesn’t get nearly enough talk.
That’s why I am not dropping this... the 850 poo is not better in any way shape or form then the 850 Doo. It gets worse economy, smokes more, and already proven to be less reliable. But we should all be in shock and awe over the patriot? Why?
2018, 2019, 2020 and the XRS is still the best. Yes others have been catching up but the cycle will restart in 2022 when they make some tangible changes.
I love snow trax tv with the exception of 1 thing. WHY, and I mean WHY are the only products reviewed the top of the line, most expensive models in each brand??? And its not just snow trax. Let's review the products that most are gonna buy. Review, and compare this to the base model of its type. Im not so convinced that this sled is 3-4000 better than the base model. All I hear in all their videos is them saying how much better polaris is than doo.
We hear ya. We've got a ton of archived reviews if you're thinking of buying anything used, but I get where you're coming from if evaluating an in-season base model.
@@snowtrax I would just really love ta see a base renegade adrenaline vs an xrs renegade adrenaline. The way it sounds, I would hate the base until I threw 4k at it.
What? The x sleds have had rebound adjust only for years which makes little sense. Only very experienced riders should be adjusting rebound from stock settings whereas adjustable compression dampening is much much more useful to most riders.
@@krisi.2011 Oh for sure, but I meant most people can't ride that much and its way easier to adjust compression so that you just barely don't bottom out. Most people can't ride anywhere near as much as you do and for someone like you, you probably know what rebound does and how to adjust it. For the average Joe (and lots of average joe's buy xrs's) they can really screw up the sleds handling adjusting rebound without knowing what they're doing where as compression is much easier so I found it crazy that ski doo changed from the compression adjust only front shocks to rebound adjust only on x sleds
@@gregsouther7293 lol production process for these episodes is probably a week or two. I wouldn't expect anything for another week or two talking about the 850 turbo. And I doubt we will ever see a turbo 2-stroke renegade from the factory.
The wanna be means people that think the most expensive is the best even though it will end up being too stiff for their pace, and they won't know what to do with all the adjustments to get the most out of it.
If you ride only in excellent snow conditions and don't ride very hard you can get by without but riding lakes with little snow or trails that have gone icy, you're asking for an accident riding without studs
Matt Miller unless you are running on nothing but ice witch most sleds would get hot along with high-facts you wouldn’t do it unless you have a death wish. Most lakes if I run them have snow on them witch gives you traction to stop. And if you lock the track up it tears the studs out or if you spin the track.
Tis has become the POO and DOO show :-( I get Arctic cat and Yamaha need to bring out a new "full size"chassis already , but they still offer new updated machines, not to mention the NEW mid size stuff! All I ever see anymore on this channel is Ski Donkey this, Poo Poo laris that, BORING!!! I like all brands and have owned all.
papa Wattz There it is! I was waiting for the Arctic Cat guys to complain they’re not getting any love on this channel!! How many times do they have to say (Arctic Cat never sent any sleds to review) . Stop bitching at Snowtrax and contact Cat. I don’t ride Cat but I agree they make a great product, I’m in the minority I think there all making good sleds.
@@jonathanfrahm5650 < I must have missed that statement! I was not aware of Cat not sending them any sleds! I watch just about every show, maybe they should put a disclaimer then to keep us " Arctic Cat guys" from bitching? LOL. Like I said, I've owned all brands, just on a cat for now because IMO the Cat's/ Yamahas still look the best and I have never had any real issues with them.
Blah blah....spring order. You know you cant get a Poo 850 unless you spring order. You couldnt get an Arctic Cat period unless you spring ordered. I'm still trying to understand all the digs on the XRS. The biggest dig is its essentially unchanged for 4 years.
Come on cat Polaris and doo both have new chassis where's yers. Come on Polaris doo and cat both have actual good quality shocks not those walker evans pieces of junk
@@hworkmaniv88 Except for the fact that my stock MXZ XRS 850 beats my buddy's stock XRS Ace 900 turbo every time until around 90 miles and hour where the 900 climbs to around 120mph and the 850 is around 114mph.
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These sleds look nice with the full skid plate 👌🏼
Zero mention of handling, on/off trail or anything specific? You do get called a wannabe or a legend in your own mind by Snowtrax tho. I guess we are all supposed to love the Polaris Switchback Assault like they do and ignore all else lol. Careful Lester.....your Indy Undies are showing. Totally useless review IMO.
OK? For a few years this father & 2 son team was criticized for being too pro Ski-Doo. Either way some zealots are going to be offended!
@Roy Anderson.... I am neither zealot nor offended. Watch the "full review" again....there is almost no facts presented. I stand by my opinion that this was a very poor job at a review whether you like the brand/sled or not. Very little in that 5 minute rambling told me if it's a good sled or the worst thing man ever assembled? Name calling (wannabe/legend in one's mind) is very unprofessional of a journalist with 25 years experience no? At best this was a history lesson of past Renegade models and almost nothing of the current machine.
Dean Miller Boo hoo, they used to talk about Skidoo like that a few years ago when they held top spot. Now Polaris is on top and you’re crying that your ski poo isn’t the best anymore
crashingkid Did you not read the comment at all?
@@Zeffy55 I think Doo sells at least 2 sleds for every one Poo sells. They have a looong way to go to get back to the top
My favourite sled in the lineup
great product but a terrible review... seriously what in the world was he even talking about, legends, wannabes... nothing on cornering ability, differences between last years gauges to this years, accessories, actual suspension performance. according to the description on the video tag line :(Motorhead Mark Lester gets race inspired and blasts the trails revealing all the details of Ski-Doo's 850 E-TEC powered Renegade X rs.) we saw all the details????
No offense to mark. But I would rather see Luke or AJ review a sled like this.
great sled but the assults better! there, did it for them.
Spun you also have to realize that the assault is not the direct competitor to the xrs renegade
its also not a direct competitor to the BCXRS, its a lot closer to the renegade imo
Mark has a way of rambling his way through a review without actually saying much of anything. It's basically his trademark at this point. His review of the zr 8000 rr is laughably useless.
Can we talk about how god damn good looking this thing is
Can we talk about getting you some prescription glasses. Looks like a duck had sex with a dolphin. Sick sled otherwise though.
@@ChuckBeefOG a duck and a dolphin eh? Not sure I see the resemblance
The G4 plastics and that asinine aux LED headlight are the worst looking designs on the snow. They are nice sleds though and they look way better than the G4 wide body 900’s.
Agree, great looking sled. Crap, even my wife likes it and she wants a Polaris Assault.
Looks like a damn pissed off DUCK!
does it come with a pull start? and you should be able to add the 2inch track as a option
The 1.75 backcountry x is such an awesome track for the 137-class sleds. Shame the only one you can get it on from the factory is the goofy-ass switchback
I’m Sold absolutely what a beauty.
Why is it every time they talk about the 850 Doo ‘it’s a formidable engine with good reliability’. Sounds like ford talking about their 5.0. But Polaris gets the Hennessy treatment of being the single greatest naturally aspirated two stroke.. I know these guys need to talk them all up but man. For engines so unbelievably close in performance in the real world not sure how one can be so great but the other isn’t on par. Next times I race my buddies 850 Poo I am posting it on RUclips. Tired of hearing how great the poo 850 is and far and away the best motor ever. I remember my buddy telling me he was gonna mop the floor with me.. never quite went that way. For the record cats 800 is good too. Maybe not quite there with poo and doo but doesn’t get nearly enough talk.
check out Revrider550. He has a video of the drag races at Snodeo 2019 of Polaris, Ski-Doo, and Cat. #1 Doo, #2 Cat, #3 Poo....
That’s why I am not dropping this... the 850 poo is not better in any way shape or form then the 850 Doo. It gets worse economy, smokes more, and already proven to be less reliable. But we should all be in shock and awe over the patriot? Why?
@@ianstuart7395 lol Polaris is paying better? Such a joke. Engine wise the Ski-Doo 850 is waaayyy better than the Polaris.
2018, 2019, 2020 and the XRS is still the best. Yes others have been catching up but the cycle will restart in 2022 when they make some tangible changes.
I agree, the XRS has great performance and is very reliable. Ski Doo does an excellent job at quality control
Oh ya here ditch banger all day every snow day 😁😁😁😎
You rode the 850 exec turbo yet?
I'd hate to see your partial review
I wish they'd keep the analog gauges
Yes. I own 2 Renegades to bridge the bumps and do not venture off trail.
No i live in ny. If my ski hits anything off the trail everyone crys
What is a C note?
100 mph
I love snow trax tv with the exception of 1 thing. WHY, and I mean WHY are the only products reviewed the top of the line, most expensive models in each brand??? And its not just snow trax. Let's review the products that most are gonna buy. Review, and compare this to the base model of its type. Im not so convinced that this sled is 3-4000 better than the base model. All I hear in all their videos is them saying how much better polaris is than doo.
We hear ya. We've got a ton of archived reviews if you're thinking of buying anything used, but I get where you're coming from if evaluating an in-season base model.
@@snowtrax I would just really love ta see a base renegade adrenaline vs an xrs renegade adrenaline. The way it sounds, I would hate the base until I threw 4k at it.
I’d more green than yellow 🤷🏼♂️
It's pretty crappy how skidoo took away the rebound adjustment on all the X package sleds
What? The x sleds have had rebound adjust only for years which makes little sense. Only very experienced riders should be adjusting rebound from stock settings whereas adjustable compression dampening is much much more useful to most riders.
I've been riding 6000k to 8000km a year for 25 years I like have that adjustably
@@krisi.2011 Oh for sure, but I meant most people can't ride that much and its way easier to adjust compression so that you just barely don't bottom out. Most people can't ride anywhere near as much as you do and for someone like you, you probably know what rebound does and how to adjust it. For the average Joe (and lots of average joe's buy xrs's) they can really screw up the sleds handling adjusting rebound without knowing what they're doing where as compression is much easier so I found it crazy that ski doo changed from the compression adjust only front shocks to rebound adjust only on x sleds
4:11 turbo Renegade?
900 ACE Turbo
@@hworkmaniv88 I was hoping he was talking about the new 850 turbo.
@@gregsouther7293 lol production process for these episodes is probably a week or two. I wouldn't expect anything for another week or two talking about the 850 turbo. And I doubt we will ever see a turbo 2-stroke renegade from the factory.
@@gregsouther7293 More useful In mountain sleds since hp is same at sea level.
Mmmmm. Did you hold back criticism? It sounds like you were being cryptic in your review. And explain the “wanna be”?
The wanna be means people that think the most expensive is the best even though it will end up being too stiff for their pace, and they won't know what to do with all the adjustments to get the most out of it.
I’ve never run studs on my sleds I think they destroy the track imo. And cause other unnecessary problems and dangers.
Totally agree they should ban them
If you ride only in excellent snow conditions and don't ride very hard you can get by without but riding lakes with little snow or trails that have gone icy, you're asking for an accident riding without studs
Matt Miller unless you are running on nothing but ice witch most sleds would get hot along with high-facts you wouldn’t do it unless you have a death wish. Most lakes if I run them have snow on them witch gives you traction to stop. And if you lock the track up it tears the studs out or if you spin the track.
Doing Double D don’t think they should ban them but if you want the headaches that go a long with stud run them. I just prefer not to.
I'll never be without studs!! HP out the snow flap to boot
Tis has become the POO and DOO show :-( I get Arctic cat and Yamaha need to bring out a new "full size"chassis already , but they still offer new updated machines, not to mention the NEW mid size stuff! All I ever see anymore on this channel is Ski Donkey this, Poo Poo laris that, BORING!!! I like all brands and have owned all.
papa Wattz There it is! I was waiting for the Arctic Cat guys to complain they’re not getting any love on this channel!! How many times do they have to say (Arctic Cat never sent any sleds to review) . Stop bitching at Snowtrax and contact Cat. I don’t ride Cat but I agree they make a great product, I’m in the minority I think there all making good sleds.
@@jonathanfrahm5650 < I must have missed that statement! I was not aware of Cat not sending them any sleds! I watch just about every show, maybe they should put a disclaimer then to keep us " Arctic Cat guys" from bitching? LOL. Like I said, I've owned all brands, just on a cat for now because IMO the Cat's/ Yamahas still look the best and I have never had any real issues with them.
Why is skidoo going green that’s a American snowmobile makers color you don’t see Polaris going green ?
Blah blah....spring order.
You know you cant get a Poo 850 unless you spring order.
You couldnt get an Arctic Cat period unless you spring ordered.
I'm still trying to understand all the digs on the XRS. The biggest dig is its essentially unchanged for 4 years.
Sean Nelson and the arctic kitty's chassis has been the same since like forever, at least ski doo try's to inovate each year
Useless Review. I could read all that off there website.
You could probably read a LOT more off their website lol
same ole pro 40s ? come on skidoo ...get with..polaris and cat both have new shocks,,wheres yers?
Joe neault and not even up front anymore...pro 36 with half inch shafts. Weak
I like the pro 40's, don't you like yours?
Come on cat Polaris and doo both have new chassis where's yers. Come on Polaris doo and cat both have actual good quality shocks not those walker evans pieces of junk
4min10sec in "turbo renegade xrs". They don't make one Mark. Wish they did.
Bruce Stewart he’s referring to the albatross 900Turbo. The 4 stroke that Ski Doo now claims is a “Race sled.”
@@bedlambikes just seems weird that Mark was talking about the 850 renegade xrs the whole time.
900 ACE Turbo!
@@bedlambikes 900 turbo kicks the crap out of every 850 two stroke off the line.....
@@hworkmaniv88 Except for the fact that my stock MXZ XRS 850 beats my buddy's stock XRS Ace 900 turbo every time until around 90 miles and hour where the 900 climbs to around 120mph and the 850 is around 114mph.