Sending funeral flowers is too much. These children need to grow up! SM giving into this nonsense is crazy. It should have been the group's decision no one else's.
@@whiteRiceSupremacist Yeah, sure. I don't think you know but Seunghan never left top 20 of brand reputation ever since he went on hiatus. He's also one of the most famous members in the group, especially in the West. SM is a business, but they have also made many decisions based on pride. They're limiting their international reach by purposely limiting their groups' potential - yes, they have admitted to this during SNSD's era. They want all of their groups to never surpass the SM name. Irrational but they just don't want Seunghan back to the point that they've hired marketing accounts on Weibo to tarnish his name back in March. That's how they play dirty. And the fact that they made him give up when all the members were abroad? Yeah, I've seen that before with EXO who were threatened by the company with their own members. And that's why I laugh whenever people say they sided with "fans" - they're full of ot1/akgaes who started tearing down other members after Seunghan left. It's dangerous because SM is just letting them be. They're the ones who created and propagated Seunghan's malicious rumours for the past ten months and have begun created (or already created) rumours towards the other members. Who's gonna be next?
The word "idol" says it all. A flawless object to be worshipped. That's honestly sick in the head, and I've always thought so. It's an impossible standard set by impossible people in a very toxic culture. I'm done with it.
The other 6 members wanted him back, he'd been training longer than half the group. RIIZE is 7 and will always be 7. SM Ent. constantly fails their artists and K-Netz are constantly overreaching and their entitlement and delusion has just hindered a young man's goals and dreams. So many people should feel SHAME but Seunghan should not.
Hoping for his mental health not to be permanently affected by all that unnecessary and cruel display of hatred. He's a young man and hopefully he can make his life better after all this time of such distress.
If that was really him walking through those cursed wreaths (and the video is a bit longer, plus photos of him walking down into a subway station like a man who lost everything), then you can bet his mental health has been permanently affected.
Wow Knetz have a really toxic level of jealousy! What kind of twisted thinking is this?!He didn't do anything bad, what's with the death threats and hate train? If this is the kind of fans that Riize have then the remaining members are treading on egg shells everyday just to stay perfect in the fandom's eyes. Poor boys! In the end Seunghan actually escaped and he can live his life free from public scrutiny.
So let me get this straight. A kid who dated a girl once and was seen smoking is enough to harass and torment him, to cause him to leave the group, to put mental and financial stress on the company, the members, and the kid himself. To demand (essentially) harm and worse to come to him and anyone who supports him. Buuuuuut that guy from NCT? He gets what exactly?
exactly. So, we are not stopping until Seunghan is back unless riize (including seunghan) want something else. Which is not likely, according to the boys acting today/ yesterday :)
He was literally used as a scapegoat to divert attention from Taeil's case, it's so obvious atp. SM employees supposedly against his return on Blind, their 2025 season greetings having only 6 members. They never planned to bring him back. He deserves so much better What's with the Shotaro tags in the replies? Am I missing something?
Those people aren't fans smh they are just assholes 🤬 putting this guy through hell and apologizing when he did nothing wrong just blows my mind. Where were the funeral wreaths for Taeil?? Unreal
Yes, the situation is messed up, but we, international fans.. need to stop over reacting.. cause I think we might've actually made things worse 😢 We, outsiders, can NEVER understand the organically built and nurtured relationship between idols, their companies and their fandoms.. And all idols are aware of the expectation of that title 'idol'... they're not viewed as humans😂.. and there's a sacred covenant between the idols, their fandoms and the companies 💯...which WE outsiders can never understand!!.. And.. they do have the right to gatekeep their art forms!! You think funeral wreaths were creepy?!?,.. these fandoms have been known to send 'blood oaths'.. to voice their disappointments or disapproval 😮.. like..they're actually willing to bleed for their convictions💯... We might think its weird... but again, that's what ultimately contributed to the creation of the Kpop machine .. and as far as I know no kpop company has survived.. when its home base(South Korea) support was compromised 💯...
@francineserwili4674 the whole culture over there just blows my mind sometimes. I remember seeing an interview with Shinee and it was the first time they were seen since Jonghyun death and I don't remember the exact question but it was towards Taemin and he admitted to seeing someone predebut but he didn't want to admit anything cuz he didn't want to upset fans and I was just thinking seriously? Of course by then they have been around so long I don't think it really mattered. I just feel bad that these idols can't be normal because they don't want these psychos (not real fans) to freak out because they wanna date and experience life. It's just sad 🥺
@@francineserwili4674 Well ok, but then all of these groups and their companies need to step out of the international market and stop pandering to us. Don't show up in our countries and don't ask us to buy your stuff, because you don't give a damn about us or our opinions. They can't have it both ways. Respect us, or step off.
@@MaffiaWife0515Agreed 💯.. they basically have to sign over 15yrs of their lives.. and they fight for those spots!! The rules are clearly known.. and even veteran Idols, like you said, have to follow them. This young boy hadn't even debuted yet 😢.. it's sad.. but that's their reality. We can encourage dialogues and hope for a change.. but pushing hard, boycotting.. is only gonna make things worse for our idols.. because they'll get blamed, as if they are telling us to keep doing what we're collectively doing.. worldwide💯 And these are not just regular fandoms.. those wreaths are very expensive... and the more we push.. the bigger they're getting😢!!! That's corporate power💯... They're obviously very triggered by our meddling.. and remember, they have invader trauma in their DNA, because of the horrible crimes committed during the Japanese invasion🙏, so they don't take kindly to our arrogance, demanding whatever we think we're owed!! Other countries invaded them, including China, but Japan was vicious and never apologized!! ... So Riize having few Japanese members❤.. puts it already at risk!! And remember Shataro was supposed to lead an NCT Japanese unit.. but that couldn't happen.. as they could only successfully debut.. with South Korean Idols in the group, to balance out the Japanese stigma!!.. there are forces at work most international fans are not even aware of.... Let's just find ways we can keep supporting them.. without causing them more harm🙏
I've never been into RIIZE, I only know like two of their songs but it really doesn't matter because I am a human being just like Seunghan and I know that all people should be treated with respect. If you don't know such a simple thing, then I'm seriously concerned about your upbringing and education. It's incredible how cruel and toxic some people can be. Even if this boy did something worse (cause if it's really just about some PREDEBUT pictures, then it's ridiculous to me), that's still not a reason to send so much hate towards him. How can they call themselves fans? Disgusting. I feel so sorry for him and really hope he will eventually get better treatment 😭❤️
I don't think that was him smoking. It probably was a guy who looked like him. There are a lot of Asian guys who look alike. I'm hoping that was the case for him. I don't want him to be bullied for smoking.
Buying the cds/merch doesn't make you the owner the group, you are free to not spend your money on them if you disagree with the decisions taken. OT6 fans you aren't owed nothing, you are just a bunch of bullies.
SM wanted Riize to become a global group and they are not even listening to international fans. Yk what let's make SM's wish true by making Seunghan an international idol with more followers and support than Riize ( if seunghan wants to comeback as a solo ). So that SM understands what is the power of actual fandom is.
@@Leaaaaa12 I agree but I think we should protest on their comments on RUclips so their social media managers can see it almost all their comments aren’t about seunghan so I doubt it will make much of an impact if we don’t we need to make as much of a statement as they did
keep commenting on SM and RIIZE's RUclips, instagram, X, Weverse daily. International fans need to make it clear that seunghan's important. K-fans should realize that they are the very reason Seunghan is not welcomed
@@hyunjins.blessing665 help me and the others protest on their RUclips as well. I highly doubt SM will see it like this but their social media managers will if it’s on their pages
I think it’s better for him to leave. International fans are supportive, but we don’t know to what extent Korean fans will go to hurt him AND the other members. Though, we should still continue the boycott.
Boycotting is good but I wouldn’t blame him if he doesn’t want to come back…they treated him so bad. The company didn’t do their job in protecting him and some of the fans were horrible
@@user-gb3cf5ju3s Agree, but if SM really want a group that is targeted towards the global market, why not base them in LA instead or anywhere that is not korea? Korean fans are just too toxic
@@user-gb3cf5ju3s Agreed! I really think we international fans made things worse with our meddling!!.. it made things worse for the group and members!!.. it became this thug of war in which SM .. was probably forced to choose whose opinion mattered the most.. We, international fans.. are still outsiders 💯.. and South Korea fandoms.. have the right to gatekeep their art forms and Cultural Capital!.. hopefully he'll find a way to continue fighting for his dreams 🙏 and we will continue supporting and cheering for him ❤
He’s just fucking human. These children who sent all of those stupid things need to grow up. Just because he’s an idol doesn’t mean he couldn’t do normal things before debut. Like jeezus Christ it was so sad, he’s human too. 😢
Whaaat 😂... Kpop has always been this way!! I think it got worse because he was exposed before debuting.. so he didn't get a chance to build a foundation first
Right now we need to stick firmly to the boycott of both Riize and SM. Unfollow, do not stream, do not purchase, just do not give any of your money or support to this rotten company! If we don't do this, we will be telling SM that what they've done doesn't matter since we'll continue to support the group anyway. If we want change, you have to boycott both. There will also be protests from tomorrow till Sunday in front of the SM building, if you can, please show up. This is not just about Riize at this point. It's about the whole industry, and the bullying culture that continues to prevail in Korea. How many lives need to be lost? When is enough truly enough? Do not let bullying win this time.
These people claim to care about the other six members, but they clearly don't. The group wanted him back. These fans essentially sent death threats to their friend. SM never wanted to bring him back. They said he could come back, then abandoned him to these crazy fans, so he would feel pressured to leave.
I’m not a RIIZE stan, but this was so wrong. The para-social relationship is so incredibly toxic. These fans think they own him; that they own the group. He is a HUMAN BEING! All idols deserve to have a life and live that life to the fullest. This includes having personal relationships. This poor kid doesn’t deserve any of this. Thinking of what artists here in the West do?!?! Omg, K- netz wouldn’t be able to handle it here. He did nothing wrong. Send RIIZE over to the West and international fans will ensure their success. My heart breaks for him.
@@baemonmode no one’s doing it on their videos if we want to make an impact I feel like we need to do it in every way they did their twitter and instagram are flooded but not their RUclips
The people who sent those wreaths, should be held responsible for death threats. SM and all other company's with Idols NEED TO PROTECT them and treat them better. Without these very talented pop idol's these companys wouldnt have money! Shame on SM.
He didn't do anything that harmed the people around him nor did he do something horrible, I honestly feel so bad for him. He doesn't deserve so much hate just for doing what a normal teenager would do. I just can't understand how some ' fans ' thinks that they should be in control of what idols do just because they buy their albums and things like that. In my opinion, I don't think smoking or dating is something netizens can use as an excuse to hate on idols. It's just stupid.
Honestly i don't want him to comeback to Riize whose fandom never deserved him . I hope he leaves SM or debuts solo . If he debuts solo i am sure he is gonna be successful and have strong loyal fanbase
I'm with you. I don't want him bothering with any of that garbage anymore. Someone will pick him up as an artist and help him. He's not as well known as others who went solo, but he's very talented and loved by many people worldwide. He doesn't need SM or idiot "fans" in Korea. He's got an international audience and talent. I hope he uses it.
Exactly although I'm sad that he leave the group but at least he's finally free.. I hope that he completely leave sm and sign to another company instead that can protect him from any harm.. maybe INKODE that under Jaejoong since I feel like maybe he would protect him at all cost since he also used to experience something similar or honestly worse than this
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, these de lulu netizens have more control over idols and actors careers, and seriously need to be monitored.... take the whole incident with Suga, meanwhile you had the whole Taeil thing going on, and a de lulu sending wreaths protesting wanting to get him kicked out of BTS? All the while promoting NCT ?! Did someone forget their meds????
Can we try to stay respectful and voice our opinions.. in a constructive manner 🙏.. at the end of the day, we're still outsiders.. and no matter how much we love and support our faves.. South Korean fandoms opinions will always matter more than us!.. why ?.. well because of the decades worth of a strong symbiotic, almost sacred bond.., between companies, idols and their fandoms!! And that bond.. may seem dysfunctional (from our perspective), but it was instrumental in the creation and maintenance of the magical genre that is Kpop💯 Also comparing his situation with other idols with years of contributions under their belt.. is not logical. This member's crisis started before he even debuted😢.. it's still unfair for sure, and very sad!
@@francineserwili4674 I disagree. Everyone's opinion matters. When it all comes down to SM they didn't want to risk losing out making any money. The company has created this toxic culture. This "bond" which you refer to. Where grown men and women can't live a normal life. Being controlled by complete strangers under the guise of being called "fans". If international fans did not count they wouldn't market them overseas. They would have continued to only direct their music within the Asian market. You speak of the creation of Kpop. That in itself is based on Jpop. Just like now the marketing geared towards the international fans. A combination of Rnb, Latin music, and rock.
@@nicolewilson4058Of course all opinions matter.. I am just concerned for the remaining members... Cause the more we attack, the more they'll be blamed... As we're already seeing... And we can voice our opinions, without being too insulting or aggressive..
@@francineserwili4674 Hence saying, "I've said it before....." etc., he did things in his past, that some "fan" dug up from old posts, and decided to post it for the world to see. I've seen this too many times and it gets frustrating that people can post whatever they want and the companies either support, wait and see, put into timeout, or fired. Imagine if someone posted something about you kissing a frog, somebody is offended gets a group together, and gets you fired because they don't like frogs.... doesn't seem fair does it? Constructive enough? 😉
At this point, I applaud Seunghan coz he left for his teammates but it's sad the rest 6 are getting hate. SM should stand for "Sued by Many ". It's so unfair for him
@@emmatezuka7675 😂 But honestly, SM sucked always for several reasons but Lee Soo Man had strong bonds with several of it's artists as well, which is why so many of them have left after he is gone . Even the staff . I wonder how they will make the "SM TOWN family" year end song this year , because half of the senior artists are gone. Happy for artists, but I actually loved seeing so many of them together.
@@stardust332 I am saying that the other 6 members are getting hate because of how SM treated SEUNGHAN , and it's not their fault that they are losing fans .
Well smoking while being a teenager and people calling him out is still understandable but to hate on him and especially for having a girlfriend pre debut is just too much!! Give that guy a chance I mean he's already been on a hiatus
Some people claim that kpop companies listen to chinese and korean fans the most because they "spend more" but guess who's asking for help from international fans to vote for Riize? Briize who arent chinese/korean also contribute so our feelings should also be taken into consideration, even japanese fans wanted Seunghan to return and they also spend well.
I don't get why it is a problem, not like he was doing hard drugs or I don't know.. human traficin! SM needs to get it together 🤨 I'm not even a fan of Riize, but I'm still pissed for this management. There should be better laws in South Korea for duch things. 😢
I hope seunghan lives a happy, healthy life away from the so called ‘fans’. I am boycotting all of sm artists, sm has the highest amount of suicides and it’s because they couldn’t care less about their artists. Sm should have taken legal action and actually done some PR instead of putting him on a hiatus. Sm clearly don’t know how to do their job. A teenager smoked and had girlfriend shocking. If I stop speaking to or being friends with people that smoked or had relationships when they were teens I would have nearly no one to speak to. There has got to be something wrong with Korean fans because it generally seems like they think idols know them. They don’t give idols any personal space in public, hate if they are dating, hate if they are smoking or drinking and so on. Like it’s generally really weird. People in other countries don’t act like that towards artists or celebs and if they do it’s teenage girls (but they still have respect for personal space) not grown adults.
Now Riize know their real fans who they can trust and will stand with them even if they face a problem like this ( worst bullying). They trust OT7 they knows that we will protect them from this toxic fans Look at them they are hinting and making signs of OT7 they want their brother back badly I'm not a Briize but If seunghan is back I'll be rooting for them
What makes this even more frustrating is that we waited for so long for his return, SM just played around with briize's hopes, and then right when he returns SM literally lets him get bullied out of the group? Along with the flower wreaths??? Now those korean ot6 briize are acting as victims as if they didn't bully and ruin a boy's dream all because he was a normal teenager..
I only have one thing to say...maybe it is true that seunghan's action like kissing his girl and smoking were a problem to some ppl but that doesn't mean they get to leak his privacy to the whole world...like seriously...get a dictionary and look for the word privacy...he's just a kid...and that kid worked hard to achieve the title a an idol...and after so much of effort you put into something then it fades away onfront of you is real torture...all this hate could lead him to suicide you know?! and as for smoking, it's normal for a teenager to smoke...plus they are also humans...give them a life y'all...I'm really disappointed on those who call themselves fans and hate the idols at the same time...
I can't stand here watching this with anger i' m tired not only for seunghan but also Suga , Jessi and hanni . Being a K-pop idol is not only the beauty and skills u have but also the background that u have lived through . I don't want him to be depressed , hope he will have a better life and future .
many knetizens are teenagers and kids that are crazy over kpop idol, idolized them and some think they are pure angle but on the other hand, inter fans are more mature them knetizen and open-minded about every situation that's why inter fans are more considerate and understand being kpop idol. If he were western idol or smth, he wouldn't face that hate. that's literally teenager things and people makes mistake and it; 's totally ok but sadly he is KPOP IDOL ;((
I stg, they found a photo of him with an ex and smoking and they want to kick him out of the group… Then Taeil was literally convicted of r*pe and everyone is begging him to come back. Where are the fucking standards…?
I find idols are held to such a high standard. I do understand that many people look up to idols but what happens before being a trainee shouldn't affect them as they aren't considered idols then. During being a trainee might be different but they still aren't Idols according to me as they are training to be. All Idols are human, not robots. Humans make mistakes as that is how we grow and learn from the mistake we make. It's a joke that Idols need to be perfect from when they are born. SM as well as all other companies need to do a better job at keeping their Idols private life private as they wouldn't like their private life being leaked. Everyone has the right for privacy. Idols shouldn't be judge by what they did before being a trainee or an Idol. People need to grow up and stop holding Idols to such high standards as eventually no one will want to be an Idol.
Knetizens are just THE WORST and it will always be too late when they realize how toxic they are. It wasn't enough to lose idols like Jonghyun, Sulli or Moonbin. They keep getting meaner and more awful as the years go by. SM is just the worst as well, they just set such a dangerous precedent.
I hope SM be mindful regarding to the shitty fans. If that issue was already in the past, then they better not focus on it. MOVE ON. Focus on the present situation on a group/member. I am not trying to bring up but to other member in the group (SM) he also did something bad in the PAST. But he already regret everything. I believe people change, give them a chance to be a better one. 😢❤
noooooo!!!!! i visited weverse and saw i can't access seunghan's posts!! ( i saw SM has removed Seunghan from Riize Weverse account! Bring Seunghan back. RIIZE IS 7!)OT7 fans! 화이팅(fighting)!!!
they worry too much about idols past lives… yet don’t give another look to people who commit horrendous crimes and are let free. they should’ve protested against those criminals.. instead of wasting money on petty reasons. i also blame sm for keeping him out of the spotlight. the members weren’t allowed to mention him at all but the thing is.. they did have comebacks.. a fancon.. and more without him. they took too long to bring him back. sm never protected him. these “fans” are monsters and don’t even like the group as a whole, they just found one common denominator and bullied seunghan out. it’s really sad because by doing this.. sm is only letting these “fans” get worse and encouraging their behavior to control riize.
i didnt even a fan of riize and never listened their one of the songs but i feel truly sad for this member like wtf??? what the hell is wrong if he was smoking or kissing a girl??? did he harass the girl like taeil??? obv no! that was his personal life who the helll they are to decide his career???? we want seughan back in the group then i will start following the group!
K-Crazies need therapy. Seunghan never did anything wrong and he had nothing to apologize for. SM owes Seunghan a huge apology for not standing up for him against the K-Crazies.
The person who released those photos is a friend of him I wonder if that person was jealous of him whoever that friend is karma is definitely coming for you for backstabbing seunghan & ruining his life he worked years to debut only for it to go down the drain just like that if he can’t get back into the group then let’s wish for him to stay in the entertainment industry
Their cruelty has no bounds. Im a stay i dont stan Riize but you got me fired up im giving Ot7 all my support. This is a dangerous precedent stand up for whats is right.
What I will never understand stand are these so called “fans” who are so mean to people they don’t know. It blows my mind completely like these are grown ass people shit talking a teenager ? For what being a teen ? They act like they never had a bf/gf before and never did the same things he did ??? But got the time of day to be a key board warrior for what? Ts his is exactly why some of these idols don’t fw y’all fr 😂😂
This whole thing started with a violation of privacy, but instead of suing the perpetrators, the agency decided to comply with delusional people (I would not call them fans) and kick Seunghan out of the group. He was bullied from all fronts. He’s only 21 ffs, and he’s allowed to live his life. Also you don’t own these artists because you spend money on them. They owe you nothing!
He came back after a long hiatus and then when he saw he was getting more backlash from the Korean fans he decided to call it quits for good so in my opinion this is all solely based on the Korean fans who pushed him out, never in all my years have I seen someone being hated on just because he had a girlfriend, unbelievable, this is just sad 😡🤦...... Korean fans do better 😔
SM didn't want to get blood on their hands and so they brought Seunghan back and let the K-Fans do the dirty work for them. Poor Seunghan, I hope his mental state is okay. I also hope his contract ends with SM soon and he can find a new label where they will allow him to showcase his talent and do the music he wants.
@francineserwili4674 there have been pervasive rumors for years that wealthy "fans" have been paying off a lot of SM staff for undue influence and access. It's looking more true by the day. Why DIDN'T the staff immediately remove those wreaths....
For those dumb and childish idiots who sent treats and harassment to him (Suenghan) should really stop this.. This type of action is too stupid and low.. This is one of the reasons why some idols experience depression and mental stress... Not all idols are perfect, they're not Gods, their also human being.. This fandom should really grow up.. Also SM Entertainment should really learn how to protect their artist, their the ones who made the decision together with the other members to bring Suenghan back to his Idol activities as a member of RIIZE yet they can't even protect him from this.. This can also affect the other members of RIIZE since they also want him (Suenghan) to comeback and perform with them.. SM Entertainment should know their priorities.. #SuenghanDeserveBetter
Guys, the new developments are promising 🙏.. New protesters have successfully been able to stay and maintain a presence in front of SM offices!! ... Its raining and cold but they are still strongly resisting🙏... And demanding to be heard!! Lets join them in prayers, and hope their efforts work🙏 ..that will set a needed precedent for future cases!! And its important that its happening in their home country 💯, by actual Koreans🙏 Those unyielding fandoms won't be able to blame us international fans for interfering 👀... Lets make sure these heroes of kpop know we are in unity with them... Finally a ray of hope💙.. we were seriously starting to worry for the rest of the members...
3:03 pretty ironic considering sm’s incompetence when it came to protecting Seunghan is most likely what’s gonna cause them to not become as popular as they could’ve of
SM did this to Seunghan in his birthday month. I will never forgive their bullshit. I'm in the RIIZE boycott and I'm not budging. Please, if you still follow RIIZE on any social media including RUclips, do us a favour and unfollow/unsubscribe. It means the world to us. SM needs to see that having Seunghan back is better, and the statistics are the easiest way to demonstrate that. Thank you
at this point this issue have become bigger than the initial issue anymore. the industry really needs to change on how they treat their artist instead of glazing the fans everytime. cause you'll never be able to satisfy everyone.
what the hell is wrong with some people like who in their right mind would do all this to a boy who just had a normal teenage life like if ur so bothered just dont follow the group anymore instead of doing all these hurtful things and ruining their career like im sure theyve done things too and would be absolutely be devastated if someone used that as a pathetic excuse to get kicked out of a job because of something u did as a child like wtf
What’s even more heartbreaking is he was hesitant to come back to begin with but the members are the ones who convinced him, just for these “fans” to go against their wishes and crush his dreams yet again. After seeing international support I hope Seunghan doesn’t give up on his dremas, he’s too talented and is born to be on stage 😢 Seunghan trained for 7 years, that’s 1/3 of his whole life and since he debuted he has been ridiculed constantly, it’s really heartbreaking and I hope justice is served. The one who funded the wreaths needs sued asap, if not by the company then by the family of Seunghan.
Wreaths wishing death and cursing family friends were really traumatising for any being he is just 21 ,just 21 he had seen it with his own eyes Gods please don't let happen some real bad to him please He didn't do some criminal offences so please
Someone save these people bro it is to sad I didn’t even know his name before yesterday but I feel so bad honestly when I was watching this video I was crying
I mean.. he is a human and he dated in his pre-debut days SO WHAT’S WRONG WITH IT?? Also who wouldn’t want to date Seunghan?? Is he ugly?? No. Then of course people would be attracted in him. Stop with the taboos of dating it’s getting annoying. Sending funeral wreath is just crazy like OMGOSH get a life.
SM clearly know how "controversial" this kid in K-Pop industry. They got 10-11 months of his hiatus to solve this out. They actually can take some legal actions to those people who leaked his private stuffs. But why they didn't show any sign of doing it since last year? Before they released his return statement, they should have been prepared with everything. They should have seen the nasty hates coming and do something about it. But no, they just let those damn wreaths being displayed in front of the building and let those freaks dancing and taking selfies in front of them. I've never seen this amount of neglected behavior from the company to their artist. The fact that he was alone in Korea while the other members were in Spain, they didn't wait for the members's arrival to discuss things properly. SM just let him left the group and said it's his own choice to leave. SM's decision-making skill is so real messed up. It's unfair to RIIZE. I feel so bad for the members. They clearly stated that they wanted him back. Imagine having to entertain those freaks who made their member being kicked out... I really can't do it if i was them.
This is why I stanned RIIZE this year. It’s been rough for them, LITERALLY from the start. From getting hate for their pre-debut pictures, Seunghan’s indefinite hiatus, their fansign being expensive, Wonbin and Sohee’s appearances, dating rumors regarding Eunseok, Sohee, and Anton, being mobbed at airport, to now Seunghan leaving. 😞 Now I just hope the boys are okay, and how they would deal with the news and the loss of a valuable member. They’ve been through a lot, ever since they debuted. Now I’m fearing with all the hashtags and boycotting, RIIZE might take the LOONA train by filing lawsuits against SM Entertainment for their contracts to be terminated, like Kris Wu, Luhan and Tao. Now I need InternetsNathan to speak on this situation as well. By making a “What Happened to Seunghan in RIIZE”? video. He’s been interviewed Kpop Idols all of a sudden.
@@0214JJ help me and everyone else protest it by commenting it on their RUclips that way the social media managers can see it more they’re instagram and twitters are absolutely flooded but nothing on their RUclips
why the hell even he needs to acknowledge his past actions were wrong? seriously bro? its not like he did crime?? he's a human, he can date whoever he wants. k-fans need to get out of this sick mentality. we've lost so many artists because of their bullshit delusions. this sick culture needs to he stopped! they need to grow up i'm so sick of this
Sending funeral flowers is too much. These children need to grow up! SM giving into this nonsense is crazy. It should have been the group's decision no one else's.
children don't have those kind of money ADULT DOES
SM has always been shitty company
@@EvanescenceEverythingOh yes. They are acting like children though.
SM is a business. Businesses prioritizes money. Patronizers equals money. It's easy to figure out why the labels will always side with the fans.
@@whiteRiceSupremacist Yeah, sure. I don't think you know but Seunghan never left top 20 of brand reputation ever since he went on hiatus. He's also one of the most famous members in the group, especially in the West. SM is a business, but they have also made many decisions based on pride. They're limiting their international reach by purposely limiting their groups' potential - yes, they have admitted to this during SNSD's era. They want all of their groups to never surpass the SM name. Irrational but they just don't want Seunghan back to the point that they've hired marketing accounts on Weibo to tarnish his name back in March. That's how they play dirty.
And the fact that they made him give up when all the members were abroad? Yeah, I've seen that before with EXO who were threatened by the company with their own members.
And that's why I laugh whenever people say they sided with "fans" - they're full of ot1/akgaes who started tearing down other members after Seunghan left. It's dangerous because SM is just letting them be. They're the ones who created and propagated Seunghan's malicious rumours for the past ten months and have begun created (or already created) rumours towards the other members. Who's gonna be next?
It's scary to be an idol. You have to be clean and perfect by the time you were born 🤦
Unless you’re super popular…look at Taeil. He’s arrested for SA and all his fans can talk about is how the charges couldn’t be true 🙄
Thats why they call them "idols" ig??😂
I would never understand parent who wanted their child to bé in this horrible industry. Nah my child health IS more important than money and fame
@@finefine511they eat they p00p and get sick they are humans with a lot of Mistake 💢💢💢💢
The word "idol" says it all. A flawless object to be worshipped. That's honestly sick in the head, and I've always thought so. It's an impossible standard set by impossible people in a very toxic culture. I'm done with it.
The other 6 members wanted him back, he'd been training longer than half the group. RIIZE is 7 and will always be 7. SM Ent. constantly fails their artists and K-Netz are constantly overreaching and their entitlement and delusion has just hindered a young man's goals and dreams. So many people should feel SHAME but Seunghan should not.
Agree
I still can’t believe he left DAYS after coming back.
so true
Well what can they do when fans sending wreath to the company
Umm it should be " he left ( day) after he come back. "
@@sa__edits_ stand their ground? I guess that is kind of risky, though.
Got bullied out**
Hoping for his mental health not to be permanently affected by all that unnecessary and cruel display of hatred. He's a young man and hopefully he can make his life better after all this time of such distress.
Sendind d€@th wreath to a living young man IS so disrespectful and heartbreaking
If that was really him walking through those cursed wreaths (and the video is a bit longer, plus photos of him walking down into a subway station like a man who lost everything), then you can bet his mental health has been permanently affected.
@@olgahein4384 ☹️ I hope he can recover from that trauma then 😞 all that was really so unnecessary. Poor Junghan
Wow Knetz have a really toxic level of jealousy! What kind of twisted thinking is this?!He didn't do anything bad, what's with the death threats and hate train? If this is the kind of fans that Riize have then the remaining members are treading on egg shells everyday just to stay perfect in the fandom's eyes. Poor boys! In the end Seunghan actually escaped and he can live his life free from public scrutiny.
This is a type of emotional bullying, SK really need to do something to protect idols from crazy fans
So let me get this straight. A kid who dated a girl once and was seen smoking is enough to harass and torment him, to cause him to leave the group, to put mental and financial stress on the company, the members, and the kid himself. To demand (essentially) harm and worse to come to him and anyone who supports him. Buuuuuut that guy from NCT? He gets what exactly?
Kpop has taken a turn which can't be reversed....
K netizens don't care about rap case they just simply not allowed the word dating 🤣💔they are too funny lately 😂😂
exactly. So, we are not stopping until Seunghan is back unless riize (including seunghan) want something else. Which is not likely, according to the boys acting today/ yesterday :)
Why are koreans like this?
As I understand it, he dated BEFORE he was an idol. What's the problem with that?
He was literally used as a scapegoat to divert attention from Taeil's case, it's so obvious atp. SM employees supposedly against his return on Blind, their 2025 season greetings having only 6 members. They never planned to bring him back. He deserves so much better
What's with the Shotaro tags in the replies? Am I missing something?
#DisrespectShotaroOsakiHatedIt
#DisrespectShotaroOsaki
#YouHurtingUsShotaroOsaki
#DisrespectShotaroOsaki
#WeAreVerySorryShotaro
I also think so
@@matthewbadidoy1995
Those people aren't fans smh they are just assholes 🤬 putting this guy through hell and apologizing when he did nothing wrong just blows my mind. Where were the funeral wreaths for Taeil?? Unreal
Yes, the situation is messed up, but we, international fans.. need to stop over reacting.. cause I think we might've actually made things worse 😢
We, outsiders, can NEVER understand the organically built and nurtured relationship between idols, their companies and their fandoms.. And all idols are aware of the expectation of that title 'idol'... they're not viewed as humans😂.. and there's a sacred covenant between the idols, their fandoms and the companies 💯...which WE outsiders can never understand!!.. And.. they do have the right to gatekeep their art forms!!
You think funeral wreaths were creepy?!?,.. these fandoms have been known to send 'blood oaths'.. to voice their disappointments or disapproval 😮.. like..they're actually willing to bleed for their convictions💯... We might think its weird... but again, that's what ultimately contributed to the creation of the Kpop machine .. and as far as I know no kpop company has survived.. when its home base(South Korea) support was compromised 💯...
@francineserwili4674 the whole culture over there just blows my mind sometimes. I remember seeing an interview with Shinee and it was the first time they were seen since Jonghyun death and I don't remember the exact question but it was towards Taemin and he admitted to seeing someone predebut but he didn't want to admit anything cuz he didn't want to upset fans and I was just thinking seriously? Of course by then they have been around so long I don't think it really mattered. I just feel bad that these idols can't be normal because they don't want these psychos (not real fans) to freak out because they wanna date and experience life. It's just sad 🥺
Thank you. Asshole is the best description I've seen of these clowns yet.
@@francineserwili4674 Well ok, but then all of these groups and their companies need to step out of the international market and stop pandering to us. Don't show up in our countries and don't ask us to buy your stuff, because you don't give a damn about us or our opinions. They can't have it both ways. Respect us, or step off.
@@MaffiaWife0515Agreed 💯.. they basically have to sign over 15yrs of their lives.. and they fight for those spots!! The rules are clearly known.. and even veteran Idols, like you said, have to follow them. This young boy hadn't even debuted yet 😢.. it's sad.. but that's their reality. We can encourage dialogues and hope for a change.. but pushing hard, boycotting.. is only gonna make things worse for our idols.. because they'll get blamed, as if they are telling us to keep doing what we're collectively doing.. worldwide💯 And these are not just regular fandoms.. those wreaths are very expensive... and the more we push.. the bigger they're getting😢!!! That's corporate power💯... They're obviously very triggered by our meddling.. and remember, they have invader trauma in their DNA, because of the horrible crimes committed during the Japanese invasion🙏, so they don't take kindly to our arrogance, demanding whatever we think we're owed!! Other countries invaded them, including China, but Japan was vicious and never apologized!! ... So Riize having few Japanese members❤.. puts it already at risk!! And remember Shataro was supposed to lead an NCT Japanese unit.. but that couldn't happen.. as they could only successfully debut.. with South Korean Idols in the group, to balance out the Japanese stigma!!.. there are forces at work most international fans are not even aware of.... Let's just find ways we can keep supporting them.. without causing them more harm🙏
Poor guy. I can't imagine losing your whole career over something so normal and simple as having a gf.
Now you know why they’re having troubles finding kids that want to be idols. I pray he is ok. F**k SM love for SEUNGHAN
I've never been into RIIZE, I only know like two of their songs but it really doesn't matter because I am a human being just like Seunghan and I know that all people should be treated with respect. If you don't know such a simple thing, then I'm seriously concerned about your upbringing and education. It's incredible how cruel and toxic some people can be. Even if this boy did something worse (cause if it's really just about some PREDEBUT pictures, then it's ridiculous to me), that's still not a reason to send so much hate towards him. How can they call themselves fans?
Disgusting.
I feel so sorry for him and really hope he will eventually get better treatment 😭❤️
Funeral flowers for smoking and dating? Holy shit, these people are fucking insane. I hope he'll be ok and get help and support from his loved ones.
Ikr? They wish him dead. Crazy. evil ppl these fans are
I don't think that was him smoking. It probably was a guy who looked like him. There are a lot of Asian guys who look alike. I'm hoping that was the case for him. I don't want him to be bullied for smoking.
Buying the cds/merch doesn't make you the owner the group, you are free to not spend your money on them if you disagree with the decisions taken. OT6 fans you aren't owed nothing, you are just a bunch of bullies.
Just because you buy the stuff doesn’t mean you have control over them omg Korean fans are making me so mad and SM entertainment is trash goodness.
SM wanted Riize to become a global group and they are not even listening to international fans. Yk what let's make SM's wish true by making Seunghan an international idol with more followers and support than Riize ( if seunghan wants to comeback as a solo ). So that SM understands what is the power of actual fandom is.
That would be nice .. we would absolutely support him, as a soloist ❤...
BRING BACK THE SEUNGHAN AHHHH BRING BACK THE SEUNGHAN AHHHH
@@Leaaaaa12 I agree but I think we should protest on their comments on RUclips so their social media managers can see it almost all their comments aren’t about seunghan so I doubt it will make much of an impact if we don’t we need to make as much of a statement as they did
@@xVamp1re LETS GO
@@xVamp1re i tried writing it in the comments of their newest post and i hope other will even if they dont stan RIIZE
Are you not participating in the boycott?
keep commenting on SM and RIIZE's RUclips, instagram, X, Weverse daily. International fans need to make it clear that seunghan's important. K-fans should realize that they are the very reason Seunghan is not welcomed
For a country that’s so against bullying they sure got a lot of bullies online
the fact that ALL members say they want him back… and even defended him on weverse……
RIIZE is 7, we are bringing him back. This time those companies won't win.
@@hyunjins.blessing665 help me and the others protest on their RUclips as well. I highly doubt SM will see it like this but their social media managers will if it’s on their pages
I think it’s better for him to leave. International fans are supportive, but we don’t know to what extent Korean fans will go to hurt him AND the other members. Though, we should still continue the boycott.
Boycotting is good but I wouldn’t blame him if he doesn’t want to come back…they treated him so bad. The company didn’t do their job in protecting him and some of the fans were horrible
@@user-gb3cf5ju3s Agree, but if SM really want a group that is targeted towards the global market, why not base them in LA instead or anywhere that is not korea? Korean fans are just too toxic
@@user-gb3cf5ju3s
Agreed! I really think we international fans made things worse with our meddling!!.. it made things worse for the group and members!!.. it became this thug of war in which SM .. was probably forced to choose whose opinion mattered the most..
We, international fans.. are still outsiders 💯.. and South Korea fandoms.. have the right to gatekeep their art forms and Cultural Capital!.. hopefully he'll find a way to continue fighting for his dreams 🙏 and we will continue supporting and cheering for him ❤
He’s just fucking human. These children who sent all of those stupid things need to grow up. Just because he’s an idol doesn’t mean he couldn’t do normal things before debut. Like jeezus Christ it was so sad, he’s human too. 😢
Kpop has taken a turn which can't be reversed..... 💔
Whaaat 😂... Kpop has always been this way!! I think it got worse because he was exposed before debuting.. so he didn't get a chance to build a foundation first
@@francineserwili4674 ik.. which is sad...
He deserves more than these cruel fans..
#NoSevenNoRIIZE
#SeunghanDeservesBetter
#SM_SPEAK_UP
Right now we need to stick firmly to the boycott of both Riize and SM. Unfollow, do not stream, do not purchase, just do not give any of your money or support to this rotten company! If we don't do this, we will be telling SM that what they've done doesn't matter since we'll continue to support the group anyway. If we want change, you have to boycott both. There will also be protests from tomorrow till Sunday in front of the SM building, if you can, please show up.
This is not just about Riize at this point. It's about the whole industry, and the bullying culture that continues to prevail in Korea. How many lives need to be lost? When is enough truly enough? Do not let bullying win this time.
True bullying culture needs to be stopped in idol industry and also the careless behaviour of companies itself too
True bullying culture needs to be stopped in idol industry and also the careless behaviour of companies itself too
These people claim to care about the other six members, but they clearly don't. The group wanted him back. These fans essentially sent death threats to their friend. SM never wanted to bring him back. They said he could come back, then abandoned him to these crazy fans, so he would feel pressured to leave.
I’m not a RIIZE stan, but this was so wrong. The para-social relationship is so incredibly toxic. These fans think they own him; that they own the group. He is a HUMAN BEING! All idols deserve to have a life and live that life to the fullest. This includes having personal relationships. This poor kid doesn’t deserve any of this. Thinking of what artists here in the West do?!?! Omg, K- netz wouldn’t be able to handle it here. He did nothing wrong. Send RIIZE over to the West and international fans will ensure their success. My heart breaks for him.
#NoSevenNoRiize
#SeunghanDeservesBetter
#SM_SPEAK_UP
@@baemonmode no one’s doing it on their videos if we want to make an impact I feel like we need to do it in every way they did their twitter and instagram are flooded but not their RUclips
@@xVamp1re we're boycotting in every platforms, no worries!
BRING HIM BACKKK
his return was actually announced on the 11th, only two days before he was kicked out again
october 2nd is his birthday, they announced his return on oct 11th
The best he can do right now is to sue these weirdos and the company wishing him a good life ahead❤
The people who sent those wreaths, should be held responsible for death threats. SM and all other company's with Idols NEED TO PROTECT them and treat them better. Without these very talented pop idol's these companys wouldnt have money! Shame on SM.
He didn't do anything that harmed the people around him nor did he do something horrible, I honestly feel so bad for him. He doesn't deserve so much hate just for doing what a normal teenager would do. I just can't understand how some ' fans ' thinks that they should be in control of what idols do just because they buy their albums and things like that. In my opinion, I don't think smoking or dating is something netizens can use as an excuse to hate on idols. It's just stupid.
Honestly i don't want him to comeback to Riize whose fandom never deserved him . I hope he leaves SM or debuts solo . If he debuts solo i am sure he is gonna be successful and have strong loyal fanbase
I'm with you. I don't want him bothering with any of that garbage anymore. Someone will pick him up as an artist and help him. He's not as well known as others who went solo, but he's very talented and loved by many people worldwide. He doesn't need SM or idiot "fans" in Korea. He's got an international audience and talent. I hope he uses it.
@@connie7128 yeah let's hope for the best
Exactly although I'm sad that he leave the group but at least he's finally free.. I hope that he completely leave sm and sign to another company instead that can protect him from any harm.. maybe INKODE that under Jaejoong since I feel like maybe he would protect him at all cost since he also used to experience something similar or honestly worse than this
The entitlement of those fans are so wild bruhh
We want seunghan back
Riize is 7
the fact that ALL members say they want him back... and even defended him on weverse......
seunghan deserves better
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, these de lulu netizens have more control over idols and actors careers, and seriously need to be monitored.... take the whole incident with Suga, meanwhile you had the whole Taeil thing going on, and a de lulu sending wreaths protesting wanting to get him kicked out of BTS? All the while promoting NCT ?! Did someone forget their meds????
Can we try to stay respectful and voice our opinions.. in a constructive manner 🙏.. at the end of the day, we're still outsiders.. and no matter how much we love and support our faves.. South Korean fandoms opinions will always matter more than us!.. why ?.. well because of the decades worth of a strong symbiotic, almost sacred bond.., between companies, idols and their fandoms!! And that bond.. may seem dysfunctional (from our perspective), but it was instrumental in the creation and maintenance of the magical genre that is Kpop💯
Also comparing his situation with other idols with years of contributions under their belt.. is not logical. This member's crisis started before he even debuted😢.. it's still unfair for sure, and very sad!
@@francineserwili4674 I disagree. Everyone's opinion matters. When it all comes down to SM they didn't want to risk losing out making any money. The company has created this toxic culture. This "bond" which you refer to. Where grown men and women can't live a normal life. Being controlled by complete strangers under the guise of being called "fans". If international fans did not count they wouldn't market them overseas. They would have continued to only direct their music within the Asian market. You speak of the creation of Kpop. That in itself is based on Jpop. Just like now the marketing geared towards the international fans. A combination of Rnb, Latin music, and rock.
@@nicolewilson4058Of course all opinions matter.. I am just concerned for the remaining members... Cause the more we attack, the more they'll be blamed... As we're already seeing... And we can voice our opinions, without being too insulting or aggressive..
@@francineserwili4674 Hence saying, "I've said it before....." etc., he did things in his past, that some "fan" dug up from old posts, and decided to post it for the world to see. I've seen this too many times and it gets frustrating that people can post whatever they want and the companies either support, wait and see, put into timeout, or fired. Imagine if someone posted something about you kissing a frog, somebody is offended gets a group together, and gets you fired because they don't like frogs.... doesn't seem fair does it? Constructive enough? 😉
At this point, I applaud Seunghan coz he left for his teammates but it's sad the rest 6 are getting hate. SM should stand for "Sued by Many ". It's so unfair for him
Lmao sued by many so fitted😂. I think they should change its name since Soo Man (SM) Lee is no longer there
@@emmatezuka7675 😂 But honestly, SM sucked always for several reasons but Lee Soo Man had strong bonds with several of it's artists as well, which is why so many of them have left after he is gone . Even the staff . I wonder how they will make the "SM TOWN family" year end song this year , because half of the senior artists are gone. Happy for artists, but I actually loved seeing so many of them together.
nothing happens to other 6 wtf you saying
@@stardust332 I am saying that the other 6 members are getting hate because of how SM treated SEUNGHAN , and it's not their fault that they are losing fans .
Well smoking while being a teenager and people calling him out is still understandable but to hate on him and especially for having a girlfriend pre debut is just too much!! Give that guy a chance I mean he's already been on a hiatus
Some people claim that kpop companies listen to chinese and korean fans the most because they "spend more" but guess who's asking for help from international fans to vote for Riize? Briize who arent chinese/korean also contribute so our feelings should also be taken into consideration, even japanese fans wanted Seunghan to return and they also spend well.
displaying funeral wreath for someone who is very much alive will cause emotional damage and
AND ONLY GOD can say when our times end
I don't get why it is a problem, not like he was doing hard drugs or I don't know.. human traficin! SM needs to get it together 🤨
I'm not even a fan of Riize, but I'm still pissed for this management. There should be better laws in South Korea for duch things. 😢
I hope seunghan lives a happy, healthy life away from the so called ‘fans’.
I am boycotting all of sm artists, sm has the highest amount of suicides and it’s because they couldn’t care less about their artists.
Sm should have taken legal action and actually done some PR instead of putting him on a hiatus. Sm clearly don’t know how to do their job.
A teenager smoked and had girlfriend shocking. If I stop speaking to or being friends with people that smoked or had relationships when they were teens I would have nearly no one to speak to.
There has got to be something wrong with Korean fans because it generally seems like they think idols know them. They don’t give idols any personal space in public, hate if they are dating, hate if they are smoking or drinking and so on. Like it’s generally really weird. People in other countries don’t act like that towards artists or celebs and if they do it’s teenage girls (but they still have respect for personal space) not grown adults.
WE ALL SAY
“SEUNGHAN WE LOVE YOU”
#justiceforseunghan
Now Riize know their real fans who they can trust and will stand with them even if they face a problem like this ( worst bullying). They trust OT7 they knows that we will protect them from this toxic fans
Look at them they are hinting and making signs of OT7 they want their brother back badly
I'm not a Briize but If seunghan is back I'll be rooting for them
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO MEAN ITS NOT FAIR💔
In short, SM is in its own repertoire. Nothing changed at all. I think that SM should stop existing.
imagine apologizing for falling in love and have fun
What makes this even more frustrating is that we waited for so long for his return, SM just played around with briize's hopes, and then right when he returns SM literally lets him get bullied out of the group? Along with the flower wreaths??? Now those korean ot6 briize are acting as victims as if they didn't bully and ruin a boy's dream all because he was a normal teenager..
I only have one thing to say...maybe it is true that seunghan's action like kissing his girl and smoking were a problem to some ppl but that doesn't mean they get to leak his privacy to the whole world...like seriously...get a dictionary and look for the word privacy...he's just a kid...and that kid worked hard to achieve the title a an idol...and after so much of effort you put into something then it fades away onfront of you is real torture...all this hate could lead him to suicide you know?! and as for smoking, it's normal for a teenager to smoke...plus they are also humans...give them a life y'all...I'm really disappointed on those who call themselves fans and hate the idols at the same time...
Fr I agree 💯,hope he doesn't take extreme step 😢
I can't stand here watching this with anger i' m tired not only for seunghan but also Suga , Jessi and hanni . Being a K-pop idol is not only the beauty and skills u have but also the background that u have lived through . I don't want him to be depressed , hope he will have a better life and future .
Riize is 7 until the end
many knetizens are teenagers and kids that are crazy over kpop idol, idolized them and some think they are pure angle but on the other hand, inter fans are more mature them knetizen and open-minded about every situation that's why inter fans are more considerate and understand being kpop idol. If he were western idol or smth, he wouldn't face that hate. that's literally teenager things and people makes mistake and it; 's totally ok but sadly he is KPOP IDOL ;((
#RIIZEISSEVEN
#SEUNGHANDESERVESBETTER
I stg, they found a photo of him with an ex and smoking and they want to kick him out of the group…
Then Taeil was literally convicted of r*pe and everyone is begging him to come back.
Where are the fucking standards…?
I find idols are held to such a high standard. I do understand that many people look up to idols but what happens before being a trainee shouldn't affect them as they aren't considered idols then. During being a trainee might be different but they still aren't Idols according to me as they are training to be. All Idols are human, not robots. Humans make mistakes as that is how we grow and learn from the mistake we make. It's a joke that Idols need to be perfect from when they are born. SM as well as all other companies need to do a better job at keeping their Idols private life private as they wouldn't like their private life being leaked. Everyone has the right for privacy. Idols shouldn't be judge by what they did before being a trainee or an Idol. People need to grow up and stop holding Idols to such high standards as eventually no one will want to be an Idol.
this is insane behavior like i just don’t understand how does “fans” get this delusional they need to check their mental health fr
Knetizens are just THE WORST and it will always be too late when they realize how toxic they are. It wasn't enough to lose idols like Jonghyun, Sulli or Moonbin. They keep getting meaner and more awful as the years go by. SM is just the worst as well, they just set such a dangerous precedent.
Hong Seunghan would you please go back don't be shy from the other fans out there okay just behave always
I can’t believe the hate this guy got just for having a life. These so called fans should be ashamed of themselves. They ruin his career.
I hope SM be mindful regarding to the shitty fans.
If that issue was already in the past, then they better not focus on it. MOVE ON. Focus on the present situation on a group/member.
I am not trying to bring up but to other member in the group (SM) he also did something bad in the PAST. But he already regret everything. I believe people change, give them a chance to be a better one. 😢❤
noooooo!!!!! i visited weverse and saw i can't access seunghan's posts!! ( i saw SM has removed Seunghan from Riize Weverse account! Bring Seunghan back. RIIZE IS 7!)OT7 fans! 화이팅(fighting)!!!
they worry too much about idols past lives… yet don’t give another look to people who commit horrendous crimes and are let free. they should’ve protested against those criminals.. instead of wasting money on petty reasons. i also blame sm for keeping him out of the spotlight. the members weren’t allowed to mention him at all but the thing is.. they did have comebacks.. a fancon.. and more without him. they took too long to bring him back. sm never protected him. these “fans” are monsters and don’t even like the group as a whole, they just found one common denominator and bullied seunghan out. it’s really sad because by doing this.. sm is only letting these “fans” get worse and encouraging their behavior to control riize.
i didnt even a fan of riize and never listened their one of the songs but i feel truly sad for this member
like wtf??? what the hell is wrong if he was smoking or kissing a girl??? did he harass the girl like taeil??? obv no!
that was his personal life who the helll they are to decide his career????
we want seughan back in the group then i will start following the group!
K-Crazies need therapy. Seunghan never did anything wrong and he had nothing to apologize for. SM owes Seunghan a huge apology for not standing up for him against the K-Crazies.
Omg he’s my bias when they first came out! 😢
They think That K-fans are more than International Fans?? WE have to BOYCOTT SM... They all are getting on nerves now...
The person who released those photos is a friend of him I wonder if that person was jealous of him whoever that friend is karma is definitely coming for you for backstabbing seunghan & ruining his life he worked years to debut only for it to go down the drain just like that if he can’t get back into the group then let’s wish for him to stay in the entertainment industry
Their cruelty has no bounds. Im a stay i dont stan Riize but you got me fired up im giving Ot7 all my support. This is a dangerous precedent stand up for whats is right.
This is absolutely disgusting.....
What I will never understand stand are these so called “fans” who are so mean to people they don’t know. It blows my mind completely like these are grown ass people shit talking a teenager ? For what being a teen ? They act like they never had a bf/gf before and never did the same things he did ??? But got the time of day to be a key board warrior for what? Ts his is exactly why some of these idols don’t fw y’all fr 😂😂
This whole thing started with a violation of privacy, but instead of suing the perpetrators, the agency decided to comply with delusional people (I would not call them fans) and kick Seunghan out of the group. He was bullied from all fronts. He’s only 21 ffs, and he’s allowed to live his life. Also you don’t own these artists because you spend money on them. They owe you nothing!
preach.
RIIZE WILL ALWAYS BE 7
He came back after a long hiatus and then when he saw he was getting more backlash from the Korean fans he decided to call it quits for good so in my opinion this is all solely based on the Korean fans who pushed him out, never in all my years have I seen someone being hated on just because he had a girlfriend, unbelievable, this is just sad 😡🤦...... Korean fans do better 😔
SM didn't want to get blood on their hands and so they brought Seunghan back and let the K-Fans do the dirty work for them. Poor Seunghan, I hope his mental state is okay. I also hope his contract ends with SM soon and he can find a new label where they will allow him to showcase his talent and do the music he wants.
kfans don’t realize that we pay double than what they pay in Korea for merchandise😐
Most fans, even in Korea, wanted him back. it was a loud , vocal and wealthy ($) minority that caused this.
That actually makes sense. Unfortunately money is power!... That would explain the amount and size of those funeral wreaths... They are NOT cheap!!
@francineserwili4674 there have been pervasive rumors for years that wealthy "fans" have been paying off a lot of SM staff for undue influence and access. It's looking more true by the day. Why DIDN'T the staff immediately remove those wreaths....
For those dumb and childish idiots who sent treats and harassment to him (Suenghan) should really stop this.. This type of action is too stupid and low.. This is one of the reasons why some idols experience depression and mental stress... Not all idols are perfect, they're not Gods, their also human being.. This fandom should really grow up.. Also SM Entertainment should really learn how to protect their artist, their the ones who made the decision together with the other members to bring Suenghan back to his Idol activities as a member of RIIZE yet they can't even protect him from this.. This can also affect the other members of RIIZE since they also want him (Suenghan) to comeback and perform with them.. SM Entertainment should know their priorities..
#SuenghanDeserveBetter
Guys, the new developments are promising 🙏.. New protesters have successfully been able to stay and maintain a presence in front of SM offices!! ... Its raining and cold but they are still strongly resisting🙏... And demanding to be heard!! Lets join them in prayers, and hope their efforts work🙏 ..that will set a needed precedent for future cases!! And its important that its happening in their home country 💯, by actual Koreans🙏 Those unyielding fandoms won't be able to blame us international fans for interfering 👀... Lets make sure these heroes of kpop know we are in unity with them... Finally a ray of hope💙.. we were seriously starting to worry for the rest of the members...
3:03 pretty ironic considering sm’s incompetence when it came to protecting Seunghan is most likely what’s gonna cause them to not become as popular as they could’ve of
SM did this to Seunghan in his birthday month. I will never forgive their bullshit. I'm in the RIIZE boycott and I'm not budging. Please, if you still follow RIIZE on any social media including RUclips, do us a favour and unfollow/unsubscribe. It means the world to us. SM needs to see that having Seunghan back is better, and the statistics are the easiest way to demonstrate that. Thank you
at this point this issue have become bigger than the initial issue anymore.
the industry really needs to change on how they treat their artist instead of glazing the fans everytime. cause you'll never be able to satisfy everyone.
I am so disappointed in SM and the people who have done this to him. What did he do wrong?! Nothing.
I just pray that he will be OK and be super successful in whatever he decides to do in the future.
Let me repeat, it's not just wreaths. It's a death threat.
#NoSevenNoRiize
#PleaseComeBackSeunghan
RII7E FOREVER.The world needs Seunghan back to RIIZE
what the hell is wrong with some people like who in their right mind would do all this to a boy who just had a normal teenage life like if ur so bothered just dont follow the group anymore instead of doing all these hurtful things and ruining their career like im sure theyve done things too and would be absolutely be devastated if someone used that as a pathetic excuse to get kicked out of a job because of something u did as a child like wtf
K Riize fans and Hybe supporters hating on Newjeans are the same 🤮
what does this have anything to do with nwjns
@@mahabubajannathashi1199 i didn’t, i was confused so i was asking what happened. thanks for being rude, i appreciate it.
@@mahabubajannathashi1199 how was i being rude? i was just curious … im not that much into new jeans so i didn’t know
What’s even more heartbreaking is he was hesitant to come back to begin with but the members are the ones who convinced him, just for these “fans” to go against their wishes and crush his dreams yet again. After seeing international support I hope Seunghan doesn’t give up on his dremas, he’s too talented and is born to be on stage 😢 Seunghan trained for 7 years, that’s 1/3 of his whole life and since he debuted he has been ridiculed constantly, it’s really heartbreaking and I hope justice is served. The one who funded the wreaths needs sued asap, if not by the company then by the family of Seunghan.
wait how do you know this?
Wreaths wishing death and cursing family friends were really traumatising for any being he is just 21 ,just 21 he had seen it with his own eyes
Gods please don't let happen some real bad to him please
He didn't do some criminal offences so please
Yeah bro's career almost ended before it started 😢😢
Someone save these people bro it is to sad I didn’t even know his name before yesterday but I feel so bad honestly when I was watching this video I was crying
I hope karma comes to those “friends” that leaked his photos on his private instagram.
He’s human and shit happens
Facts!! Who does something like that?? Truly evil..
I mean.. he is a human and he dated in his pre-debut days SO WHAT’S WRONG WITH IT?? Also who wouldn’t want to date Seunghan?? Is he ugly?? No. Then of course people would be attracted in him. Stop with the taboos of dating it’s getting annoying. Sending funeral wreath is just crazy like OMGOSH get a life.
OMG what the hell it’s always the k-netizens they don’t care about the idol and their mental health 🤬😢🥺😑
SM clearly know how "controversial" this kid in K-Pop industry. They got 10-11 months of his hiatus to solve this out. They actually can take some legal actions to those people who leaked his private stuffs. But why they didn't show any sign of doing it since last year?
Before they released his return statement, they should have been prepared with everything. They should have seen the nasty hates coming and do something about it. But no, they just let those damn wreaths being displayed in front of the building and let those freaks dancing and taking selfies in front of them.
I've never seen this amount of neglected behavior from the company to their artist. The fact that he was alone in Korea while the other members were in Spain, they didn't wait for the members's arrival to discuss things properly. SM just let him left the group and said it's his own choice to leave.
SM's decision-making skill is so real messed up. It's unfair to RIIZE. I feel so bad for the members. They clearly stated that they wanted him back. Imagine having to entertain those freaks who made their member being kicked out... I really can't do it if i was them.
This is why I stanned RIIZE this year. It’s been rough for them, LITERALLY from the start. From getting hate for their pre-debut pictures, Seunghan’s indefinite hiatus, their fansign being expensive, Wonbin and Sohee’s appearances, dating rumors regarding Eunseok, Sohee, and Anton, being mobbed at airport, to now Seunghan leaving. 😞 Now I just hope the boys are okay, and how they would deal with the news and the loss of a valuable member. They’ve been through a lot, ever since they debuted.
Now I’m fearing with all the hashtags and boycotting, RIIZE might take the LOONA train by filing lawsuits against SM Entertainment for their contracts to be terminated, like Kris Wu, Luhan and Tao.
Now I need InternetsNathan to speak on this situation as well. By making a “What Happened to Seunghan in RIIZE”? video. He’s been interviewed Kpop Idols all of a sudden.
RII7E
@@0214JJ help me and everyone else protest it by commenting it on their RUclips that way the social media managers can see it more they’re instagram and twitters are absolutely flooded but nothing on their RUclips
why the hell even he needs to acknowledge his past actions were wrong? seriously bro? its not like he did crime?? he's a human, he can date whoever he wants. k-fans need to get out of this sick mentality. we've lost so many artists because of their bullshit delusions. this sick culture needs to he stopped! they need to grow up i'm so sick of this