I used to have a fitness ig. It was mostly to document for me but at some point i made a post for ed sufferers. Basically, it was just "youre striggling but you deserve to be kinder to yourself." Without warning, i lost the page. It was completely deleted and i couldn't even save the posts. I was really sad because it documented 4 years of revovery from my own ed. I just had to use the word ana once and all of that was gone.
Hearing how articulate and well spoken she used to be, thats the hardest part for me and many others im sure. Seeing the body waste away is 1 thing, but to see such a bright young mind wither away is another.
Yeah… I was nowhere near her point but the brain fog is so bad when you’re starving your body and brain of what it needs. I felt like I couldn’t function. Which I was an honour student in my school years. I treasured my mind a lot.. then suddenly I just felt so stupid. Being skin and bones wasn’t worth loosing my spark and wisdom..
@@MrsDogLover unfortunately it's the disease. I understand that your brain works against you at that point, what I don't get is how any of her family never got her committed. How can you claim to be a mother, while sitting back and watching your child kill themselves. She's too old for that now, but she wasn't when she started. Some people have said that even at her age, her mom could still have her committed. So I don't know what to think there.
@@cadavherAny judge would give her parents power over her medical choices and they could force her into treatment legally, no doubt about it, but they choose not to. To me this is negligence, to stand by and do nothing when someone clearly needs aid in order to save their life.
Eugenia's grandmother was probably the *only* positive light in her life. I personally believe that once she passed, any will to live or get better also left Eugenia. I remember a comment she made after a troll told her that she'd be seeing her grandmother soon in the afterlife, and Eugenia responded with, "At least I'll be with her" in her serious non-childish voice.
YEP! People love attacking her, I think her whole family but her grandmother used her in some way...I think she got this way cuz of her mother...I mean look at her. I think she didnt want to look like her and abuse from other kids, and then her mother saw her as cashcow..I think she is now waits for reaper, and will greet him as a old friend. And shes just living as free and happy as she can. I think shes should still be able to make videos do what she does, and all these "shes bad to watch" noooo shes just girl with disorder that cuz worst cuz of her abuse by her mother, she never once promote her way...by choice it was all her mothers doing people dont get it...but seems last few years seems be just doing her..sure she is molding her clothing and stuff but I think she really think she is pretty and I think she low key shes trying to say but not say "even if you have disorder you can still be happy and pretty" why I think she shows what she does..its not that promoting her body shes promoting sometimes you cant beat this disorder and you need to accpet it, try to be happy...and live as normal as you can
That's so sad. That poor woman. She needs help, not hate from everyone on the internet. I haven't understood all the videos against her for simply existing while she is sick...
Not exactly a ‘troll’ to make a comment like that. It’s common sense and telling people what they need to hear isn’t a bad thing. .. she’s 30, Don’t doubt she’ll be with her gran by end of the year 😔
@@QUEENOBSCURE I almost believed you. It sounds good but she knows exactly what she's doing and she's doing it on purpose. She's focused on being appealing to children with her Disney stuff and showing off some little watch thing that's obvious meant for kids. And that's not right. 😮
It's clear Eugenia is so ill she just wants to die. Her Mam should be proactive in getting her Daughter help, not putting her down It appears obvious EUGENIA'S MOTHER IS LETTING HER DAUGHTER DIE!!! if she truly cared she would get Eugenia sectioned she obviously lacks capacity at this moment in time and requires hospital admission. Is there no medical facilities in America, - I am glad I don't live over there, I would not be here today (bi-polar 1, stroke heart, etc). God Bless Pauline
Oh god, the brother, the mother's neurosis, the lock on the door...i dont think anyone has ever looked this hard at her childhood. Thank you for treating her like a person.
Some of her family members are overweight, unfortunately that can make an ED's annoying voice sound louder as it tells the sufferer that she will look the same due to genetics (not true) unless she gives in to the unhealthy things it wants her to do. 😢
I had anorexia 6 years ago, I didn’t see myself skinny at all, I felt obese but one night I took acid, had a bad trip and in the morning when I looked in the mirror I was horrified to see myself that skinny, I couldn’t believe it and I started to cry. That was the end for me at least for a time. It’s true nobody can help you other than yourself at that point. I hope she can recover
This is so fascinating to hear, because OfHerbsAndAltars here on RUclips had a sort of similar experience with their ED. If I’m remembering the story time right, they took some sort of hallucinogen and, like you, it gave them a different perspective. I think the use of certain “taboo” drugs to treat certain mental illnesses is something deserving of more study. Also glad to hear it seems you are doing better, and I hope that healing continue for you.
Illicit drugs 1, therapy 0. Stuff fluoride, dose the reservoirs with everything on the naughty list I say! Let's be all we can be! Can't be much worse than what we are.
I saw a video where people alleged Eugenia and jefree were doing Drugs together… and now I do hope so, maybe whatever is was will have a realization check on herself
She was my thinspo until I had a heart attack, been on the road to recovery for 2 years now. First thing I've watched about her since, well made mr snowflake. lots of love to all those suffering with ED.
It’s hard to find words to explain how beautifully you captured her suffering. I think Eugenia died a long time ago and what little we see that is left of her is her ED. Her personality, her light, her soul, and of course her body, is gone now. If some miracle happened and she wanted to get better, it is too late now. The damage and suffering has gone on for too long now. She is nearly 30 and has spent half of her life in true suffering. Thank you Mr Snowflake for accurately and tastefully piece together what she has captured of her life.
@@MrSnowflakehello! I was wondering in what way is she your favourite? Do you like her, or is she just the most interesting? Genuinely wondering, because I don't know if I like her...
Can definitely relate. I was mostly a skeleton until my mid-20s. I hated eating with people in general since they would always ask or make fun of me about it. There's always hope if you keep trying, don't give up.
@@JohnTitor20361sometimes, with people with extreme EDs, if they have had it for a long, long time, it doesn't matter if they try to get better; it's too late. There are people who do choose recovery but end up dying anyway because the damage already done to their organs is too severe. It's very sad, but sometimes people just can't get better.
Putting all these in order like this really really says a lot about her and her situation in such an important way. These are her words. There isn’t anything to be misconstrued with it. This is more honesty than anyone could have imagined. Thank you for taking the time to do this. You really have made the most impactful video.
Well thank you for that comment. Yeah i like how the series turned out. I hope she gets better but I hoped that last time I made a video and things have gotten worse for her.
As a filmmaker who is looking to step away from creative short films for a bit and venture into the world of documentary, this is truly a masterpiece and something to inspire. Despite no dialogue to lead the story, the story is still so incredibly cohesive and engaging. Great job man, keep up the good work!
Her mom has some serious issues.. the way she freaks and flips out over the smallest things, keeps her under her thumb, doesn't let her do normal things people her age should be doing is really sick. I feel bad for how she was raised and whats she has been through/deals with. The whole situation is just a horribly sad thing. She might have been savable had she been takin out of that enviroment a long time ago. Just my opinion. I could go on but yeah..
Her mom definitely has blame in this. But Eugenia is also to blame. A lot of people come from abusive childhoods and they choose to save themselves. Eugenia has money, resources. Even if she didnt- her friend Jaclyn Glen offered her own home and said if Eugenia ever wanted to escape and get away, her door was always open. Eugenia wasn't thankful, she condemned Jaclyn. She hates Jaclyn for arranging a 5150. She's nearly 30 years old. She could take control of her life today if she really wanted to.
From what one of her friends has revealed she has medical issues and that’s why her mother is always close by . Her mother is the one that knows what to do if something goes wrong
@@lisakemp7352 So, while that may be true, the fact still stands that Eugenia’s mother abused and neglected her, and that’s why she is sick. The neglect caused her health issues. Her mother neglected her, therefore, her mother is garbage. Eugenia could’ve gotten better had she not been trapped by her mother. My mother has borderline personality disorder, and she chose to perpetuate the cycle of abuse and now I am damaged. Our parents are responsible for us in our childhood, and childhood/trauma is usually where disorders tend to stem from. Eugenia could’ve been helped had her mentally ill mother stopped trying to live vicariously through her daughter, whom she neglected and will soon pass away.
@@lisakemp7352 And despite Eugenia being nearly 30, she was stuck in a toxic environment. You grow as big as the pot you’re planted in, and how you’re cared for. Eugenia was seriously neglected even before adulthood, so you are so delusional that I hope you get well soon.
She had no friends in school and was bullied. Her dad wasn't there for her. Her mom was highly stressed. Her brother special needs. And bullied relentlessly on the internet. Plus, she became friends with Jeffree Starr and other mentally predatory people on the internet who have their own body image issues. It's no wonder we are where we are with her. My heart breaks for her.
I never thought about it before but seeing her in this I realize that she is very good with elderly people - especially someone going through what he grandmother went through. She's very gentle and patient.
she could have been an amazing palliative or hospice care nurse for the elderly, or a home health aid. she could have done plenty of things to use that ability to spread kindness in the world and truly help others. instead, she influences young people to unknowingly follow down the same dark and devastating path and doesn't care one bit about the harm she's causing. what a damn waste
@@bottomofastairwellnot defending her, but maybe Eugenia feels trapped. The internet is her money. After she came out of rehab a few years ago, after the “return of Eugenia “ Shane Dawson video, she began making recovery related content. She looked well, and even brought out an ED specialist and did a segment. Do you know what happened to her channel after she “got well”??? People stopped watching. Woman probably feels trapped. Give Eugenia a way to get better, without hurting her finances. Maybe then she would try. Eugenia is in a Unique dilemma/situation only the internet could create. One in which her eating disorder is tied to her income, fame, and finances. Most people commenting have had an ED before, or knows someone who has. Just imagine how much more difficult recovery would be, in a situation like Eugenia’s. Most people can’t
@@AmandaBella100 oh i can't imagine how much more complex having a platform the way she does makes the situation. sadly, i don't think it's helping her now though. because the kind of attention she gets, good or bad, really only fuels her disorder. as for money, i'm pretty sure she has enough and that money isn't the concern. she could leave the internet tomorrow and be fine. it's not like she'd ever be at risk of being homeless, you know? but the part that DOES matter is her lifestyle. and i think for better or worse, the internet is really her only avenue for socialization and interacting with other people (besides her immediate family). because she doesn't really go out or have hobbies that take her outside of her home. she doesn't have a job or friends. so she rarely leaves her house (well, except for now that she's hanging out with Jeffree. but that might actually be good for her, to get out of the house and just be normal. who knows?) i think honestly, the social interaction is the biggest part of it
@@AmandaBella100are is now trolling her audience, cashing in on her ED. Deb and EC are straight trolls. EC knows exactly what she’s doing triggering young girls as they gift her money on social media. It’s cold and calculated. I don’t feel sorry for her one bit. People are getting sick of her and her bs.
The whole hotel live was insane. I can see why this has such a hold on her. She is in control of so little and everything is so chaotic. I can see the pressure she is under even in the early days.
"She is in control of so little".... That's the deeper issue with "ED's".... They usually lack any and all control of every aspect of their life and in turn, they subconsciously figure out that the one thing they can control is what goes in their mouth... And it very quickly gets out of control since they finally are fully in control of something... " The Best Little Girl In The World " by Steven Levenkron (psychotherapist) was a very informative book that's really opens up how deep the issue is and really isn't about losing weight... I was in high school when I read it and at the time had only read about five books due to my reading level being at about 2nd-3rd grade level and My reading comprehension at a 1st grade level, that said I, I couldn't put the book down... As well as his other book, "The Luckiest Girl In The World"
Eugenia really hits close to home for me. I find myself checking her channel every couple months just to make sure she’s still with us. It’s devastating what her mind has done to her. Thank you for letting her tell her own story.
I actually think that Eugenia holds the power, because she does. Oh, she had to turn her camera off?! Oh no! Listen, the girl can't even have moments with her family without that camera stuck to her. Deb is pretty cool with it, but yeah, sometimes it's just way too much. She's changing and Eugenia tells chat she's fully naked. Well, how nice of her. That's f'd up. Her very shy brother (hey, wouldn't you be?) Doesn't want the camera even on at all! Wonder why. Maybe because she keeps calling him, maybe because she accidentally keeps calling him Chip. Who cares! Her streaming all the time would be shut down by most mothers. Eugenia has ALWAYS gotten to do what she really wants. After the 5150? Both her & her mom were terrified that she would be taken away. So, she stayed in her room to stream. "Chat" has become a literal person. Any power Deb has is given to her by Eugenia. She allows her mother some respect as a mother. Other than that, if Eugenia wants to do something, collabs, yt fests, "interviews" which started her ED back fully, thanks Shane. Learning to drive. Jet setting to Wyoming, home, LA, Wyoming and home again. All the while spending thousands on Jeffree's TikTok battles, (I guess Deb doesn't control the purse strings). Eugenia wants to live at home, as a "kept" woman who controls everything, well that's what she does. Eugenia has always been a "kept girl/woman" this is because her family is very wealthy. This is why she doesn't know how to do anything. She makes content pretending to do things that she will never try again, unless on her own (which I can't set happening without a butler & chauffeur). So, take that into consideration. If anyone sees this comment please give a like. I'm being shadow Banana'd big time. Yes, just on comments. smh
This was MASTERFULLY done. This is the best Eugenia short film that has been made. It doesn’t degrade her. It doesn’t mock her or her illness (which people with ED appreciate). It doesn’t make her the bad guy, but it paints a picture clearly. It’s almost as if this were an “in memory of” type video. A memorial. Grieving the one who is still alive… because we are. I have a lot to say. I’ve been watching your channel for sometime, Mr. Snowflake, and I love your content. As someone who fell down the Eugenia rabbit hole October 2022 and never really came out of it still (to this day…), I can say I’ve watched a LOT of EC content to trigger myself while also trying to scare myself away from restrictive eating & recover at the same time. It’s hard to explain but an ED person will understand. I’m 32 and I was also bullied, just like her, from a YOUNG age. I will never forget those awful girls who made fun of my body in swim class in the 7th grade. They didn’t know they would cause people like Eugenia, myself and so many others to suffer for a lifetime. Mental illness is a tricky one. This is beautifully done. Seriously. 🦋 Thank you for painting her in a proper light. ✨ I am so excited for this series! It was emotional, captivating, as unbiased as possible when it comes to the Cooney family, and just a wonderfully written and crafted video. You are amazing.
I got bullied for being thin when I was young. I'm 29 and have gained 40 pounds and now I feel fat. Some people say I look healthy now, sone say I'm still too small. And I've been called fat.
I had anorexia for 16 years. There is NOTHING her mother or anyone else can do for her, until she decides that she's sick and tired of being sick and tired. I've been well for nearly 25 yrs now. You can recover, but you have to want to.
I never heard of the brother before. The fact that he’s obese , and seems to have a mental disability seems relevant. Siblings of someone who has a disability or behavioral disorder often develop an invisibility complex , or some sort of other behavior seeking disorder
thank you for being compassionate in this… iv been in eating disorders hospitials 8 times in 19 years for anorexia n bulimia.. iv met many women n some men just like her… it’s a devastating mental illness… x
Oh, you're doing this one justice 👏👏👏 The amount of videos on Eugenia out there is insane, but this might be the best one yet ❤️ such an honest and detailed look at her and her past. Can't wait for part 2.
I find it hard to know what is genuine sweetness with this girl's personality, as opposed to whether its more of an overly cutsie persona she adopts to escape her reality.
I think it’s her true nature but it’s become a coping mechanism so it’s both at this point. Isolation is a hell of a thing. She’s been alone her entire life. Think about how we all felt during lockdown. Now imagine that is your entire life.
Facts 💯 My mother is that way and she's trashed my life, wrecked my mental health and done some disgusting things to me but believes she hasn't, I'll never associate with her again
As someone who was also harassed and assaulted in school, my ED helped me get through it. Intense and horrific circumstances cause people to develop extreme coping mechanisms which is likely the case for her. As grateful as I am to no longer have an ED, I'm also grateful that I had it during my darkest years because it helped me not kill myself.
im glad it worked out in the end, i wish you had proper help during that time so you didn't have to hurt your body to cope. I hope, as a society, care is READILY PROVIDED instead of allowing these things to go on.
Remember when people are mean it’s not because there’s something wrong with you.. It means there’s something wrong with them.. People like that can sense something internal about others, certain people have something beautiful internally but those with the cold hearts can’t figure out what it is that really bothers them about that person.. Hopefully it’s a lesson to side with good and not evil, because our bodies are nothing, they are temporary physical shells that hold us.. We all are so much more, something the eye cannot see..
A ton of people get home schooled. Maybe this is just a male perspective. But bullying is wrong. But also most people get bullied in life and have to get past it. It's a part of growing up. Just getting moved out of school and home schooled im not sure is the best decision.
I'm actually very disappointed in how you portray Jaclyn Glenn in Part 3. I hope you take the time to re-edit and upload something that fixes that, as I would like to continue watching series. Peace and love ❤
I have noticed it before and just now hearing her dad once more telling her she looks beautiful breaks my heart… hearing a dad not knowing what to do or say to help but still tries to remind her she’s his precious daughter is devastating(hopefully he wont turn out to be terrible later on in the videos 🤞)
Her father is a Dr of some sort I believe so he probably is at a loss by now. He isn’t a terrible, I don’t think her father is the problem in the family at all. He just wants his life to remain private so he doesn’t go on camera. I have seen this Why doesn’t Kathy eat breakfast thing before. This situation is a very hard thing to treat, it has a high failure rate and a lot of times I believe that no one knows exactly what to do after awhile. Eugenia was absolutely beautiful and could have stayed a model if she had just had the right rep and had stayed healthier. I also think she’s struggling even more right now in particular, due to the loss of her grandmother who she clearly genuinely loved, and who shows genuine love toward Eugenia.
Yeah cause a dad that constantly forgets his daughter’s birthday sounds like such a great dad 🙄 he’s never on camera anyway so we have no idea if he’s contributed or enabled her ED.
I’ve never heard her dad even speak before this but the fact that he apologized profusely for calling her on Christmas Day doesn’t really seem like a healthy, strong relationship indicator. Then there’s the fact that he “forgets” her birthday. Cant say much based off a 30 second introduction but it doesn’t seem too promising js
Her schoolmates were jealous, imo. She looks like a doll, but when you are pretty and an introvert, that's a bad combo. Also, this video is feels like a tribute, like she already passed. It is so sad, yet beautiful.
This kind of artistry, attention and detail is masterful. I don't follow Eugenia but I know who she is. I remember the very first time that I saw her. I was scrolling throughout my recommendations, and this picture kept coming up. It was, what assumed, was a horror genre photograph of a skeleton in a mermaid costume. I finally was so annoyed, it's not really my taste and to MY horror, this is a living person? How is she alive? Still smh... Give her your love, your hate, your fear, your concerns, your passion.... It's all the food she needs! It's the mental disorder that craves it. Good, bad, worry, begging, it's all feeding her disease. It's the same spectrum with someone like Amber Lynn. IMO. Telling someone like Eugenia to "eat a sandwich" or telling ALR to "put down that sandwich!" Would be like telling someone with severe anxiety and panic disorder to, just relax. Telling someone with severe depression or may be thinking of un-aliving themselves to just, 'think happy thoughts." It just doesn't work like that. There's mental illnesses there that need those specialized to treating specific conditions. There is zero shame in any mental illness and it takes bravery, courage and strength to fight and be your own hero. There is nothing they haven't heard before, the things that you keep down in that deep dark place because it's too traumatic, too painful, too much is exactly where you need to go. Surrender to the process, medications and therapy will help you to help yourself. I promise. Brilliantly done. I say prayers for her and anyone that suffers from such a cruel and viscous disease. 💔
Not only this, but even saying those types of things may just be reinforcement to continue what she is doing. "People are "hating" on me and calling me names for being thin sooooo, that means what I'm doing is working and I'm skinny!"
I feel so horrible for her. I had anorexia in the past and its not something I would wish on even my worst enemy. She is so beautiful and i trully wish she can get out of the hell of an addiction she has
Parents please start parenting your kids! Don’t just give them a phone or tablet and let them sit in front of it all day. Pay attention to what they are watching. There’s no way I believe that Eugenia is causing others to have an ED. It all starts at home and if you play a role in your child’s life and actually TALK to them and LISTEN to them then you can’t blame someone else for their issues
That’s not how mental development works. If they wouldn’t have seen her there’s a high likelihood they wouldn’t have developed an ED. Parents need to monitor what their children consume but she was a direct factor in their EDs forming.
@@capybaracake i dont agree and thats my opinion. maybe these kids are just different because 10/11 year old me would not look at her and want to be or look like eugenia no way
@@PrettiPetty24developing an ED is a complex mixture of different factors...Just because you would have had no inclination to develop one from seeing her does not mean that children more vulnerable to it wouldn't...I have watched a lot of these types of videos and there are ALWAYS parents who are distraught bc their daughter developed an ED after watching her channel...It does happen.
@@capybaracake What in the world is the take here? That Eugenia should be hidden behind a blanket out in the real world as well, because just seeing her could cause kids to develop EDs? What about overweight people? Should we block everyone who isn't perfectly fit from walking outside or being on television? I mean, I don't know a ton about the girl, but she says she never tries to encourage people to look like her, unlike overweight people in the body positivity/fat acceptance space. So, what should she do? Not be allowed to exist in view of others? Seriously, I'm so confused by all of these takes.
unfortunately it's very hard to differentiate when it's all you've ever known. many people only realize how bad their parents are at parenting, when they have their own kids, myself included
@@lisakemp7352her mother enables her disorder and has Eugenia convinced that if she ever attempts to live separately from her that she will have a heart attack. That is emotional abuse. Eugenia is almost thirty years old and her mother has manipulated her into thinking they both cannot survive without the other.
I don't agree with that.Eugenia is an adult and does have friends and contacts over the world.She chooses to stay close to her mum.,Who has always been there for her unlike peers that abused her
The people that bully Eugenia are vile. We're watching this girl in a death spiral and we need to show the kind of compassion that you have. Thank you for your videos.
I don’t watch her nor do I know much, but what it seems from reading comments, many who have supported her over the years have lost compassion bc she has taken advantage of their support and concern for her. She manipulates and gaslights her audience, and they’re fed up with it. I’m not saying who’s right or wrong for the amount of compassion one holds, but I do see both sides and it’s heartbreaking to see many of her supporters be angry bc they literally cannot help her. Anger comes from fear and pain, and her viewers seem to put up walls and cut off caring about her to protect themselves from being hurt that she’s dying. Just my observations.
Physical appearance aside, she protected a predator in her community, she’s friends with people like Jeffree star and Shane Dawson. The majority of her audience is younger and she keeps putting out content that’s dangerous. I don’t think she should be “bullied” but she doesn’t get a pass because she’s mentally ill
Right, i understand seeing someone like Eugenia as a trigger that set ur anorexia in motion, i mean obviously it has to start somewhere , but anorexia was always there dormant and waiting. Something so debilitating and harmful can’t be done PURELY because of shallow reasons like “I wanna look like her”
@@ipgw I get what you're saying but anorexia doesn't just lay "dormant" in anyone. It's not a physical disease, it's a mental disease. Although I agree that simply seeing a picture of Eugenia isn't going to give someone anorexia, after a life time of being conditioned by toxic beauty standards, a picture of Eugenia COULD be what pushes someone over the edge and make them decide to try and starve themselves. I remember the Thinspo era on Tumblr. Girls DO look at pictures of Eugenia and think "I want to look just like her!" and they ARE willing to starve themselves to achieve it
I can relate to her connection to her grandmother, my grandmother was an island of love and safety, I was devasted when she passed, I lost an important connection when almost no one else was looking out for me. I can imagine she feels a deep disconnect without her presence when her mom is like that.
My mom is similar to deb, so i really feel for Eugenia on this, every minor little thing was the end of the world and she would freak out, blame me, slam stuff and scream, be all twitchy. For EVERY MINOR THING. Except now I'm the opposite of Eugenia and struggle with binge eating disorder since i was a kid, I'm 33 and have had this problem since i was 12
Poor girl, I can't imagine how much the bullying damaged her. She's honestly beautiful, I'd guess that the bullies were jealous. I hope she can get better.
This breaks my heart.💔I don't think this poor girl is going to be with us much longer.😢💔😭You did an AMAZING job with this video.😁You are a superb RUclips creator.🤩
This was so good. I love that you connected her little speech about butterflies to the blue butterfly symbol the pro-anas use. It really goes to show just how much her illness IS her identity. And i appreciate that you showed those clips of Chip, theyre online already and the way she acts so defensive and protective of him isnt how the internet works, once videos are online people can do what they want with them. She doesnt care to protect the little girls who are going to see her videos and contract her social contagion. Shes proud of herself, the blue butterfly is them bragging about their achievement. Shes happy to be the best at her illness, the face of an***xia. Its crazy that we cant even say the word, but she can show off her bones and atrophied muscles and not be required to age restrict. If she hadnt been pulled out of school she probably would have gotten over this, but instead she built her little cocoon online where she could exist in a permanent suspension where she never grew up and out of this, never developed an adult mind or body. Its sad, but its wrong for her to influence young girls and she absolutely does influence young people. Everyone knows it. I had friends in high school who had pictures of her printed out for thinspo they kept in their binders/lockers. Truly despicable. Instead of growing into an adult, she bypassed all of the healthy stages of maturity and instead has the body of a very old person, im sure osteoporosis and arthritis are the least of her health concerns. Beautiful editing, btw! I miss your buttery voice, but for these serious topics i can see why youve chosen to have the subjects narrate their own lives. This way its not like were taking your conclusion from the footage, we're drawing our own based on what theyve put out.
I realized, along the butterfly analogy, that Eugenia's eye make up is a symbol of a blue butterfly: shades of blue...and an eyeliner wing. So...blue wings.
This is put together so beautifully. I can see you really took your time and care about the subject matter. You never know maybe one day Eugenia may see this and it may touch her enough to wanna seek help. Doubt it but never say never.
@@MrSnowflakeHappy with the final product?? You guys that take on the youngish obese woman, the youngish anorexic woman then freakish, broken girl women. Your ART is ugly. You and your bastard mostly male reaction channellers are like pimps. You make your dirty money from these people's embarrassment. You're a taker, buddy. A user. I've heard your mockery, yiu and yiurEnglish mates laughing at Ms Reid's gaffes. Are you laughing at Eugenia's ribs? You're just another profiteer sipping at the dirty end of suffering. What's next??? Children?😊
I was anorexic when I was a teenager. What is scary about it is that in my experience it did feel like something taking over me. It is scary. Luckily I recovered after about 2 years. I have read though that it can trigger other issues like substance abuse which makes sense. I wish all with this condition and those close to them the best.
i had the same experience. i didnt have ana, my docs called it EDNOS. it like i wasn't myself. i dropped 90 lbs in 3ish months. as a 5'8 female went from 218 lbs to 130ish. my nails turned orange, i got heart palpitations from purging, etc. after the inital 3 months it lingered for about 2 years but i wasnt as strict about it i still have OCD-ish eating issues where i will get anxious and avoid foods or only eat a certain thing for a while. it almost certainly wouldn't have happened if i didnt see other people doing it in places like myproana and the tumblr thinspo community. if i never stumbled across that in my vulnerable years, i probably would have a way healthier relationship with food. i hope eugenia can get over it but she seems beyond help and her enabler mother probably wont change any thing, even if she has a major health scare. sad situation
It is apparently a very common experience for teens with eating disorders. That makes sense since anorexia isn't who you are, but it's taking so much of your headspace. Good job on recovery!
thanks for sharing this, it really puts some things into perspective regarding my own recovery. Once I'd physically recovered from my ED I became a full blown alcoholic. I guess it was just exchanging one addiction for another, but it helps to know we're predisposed to these cycles and that I didn't mess up in some major way that's unique to me.
Yes. It’s linked to OCD and addiction. As well as dysmorphia, which is what you described. I hope it never comes back up for you. This is one where if it does, you need to go immediately to a medical doctor-if you get that weird feeling again, please do, and tell them about your previous issue. We need you here with us.♥️♥️♥️
Yes. It feels like you’re possessed in a way. It’s like the ed is active independently. Your personality starts to drain away bit by bit until there’s nothing left.
Her Mom is a MONSTER by contributing to this 1000% by enabling a toxic & dysfunctional enviornment/relationship and not doi g what a Mother should do:protect and take care of her daughter. Her DAD IS 100% UNINVOLVED and IGNORES the aituation. They both are to blqme for not gettong her the help she should of gotten as a MINOR!!! Her Mom clearly has a alcohol or drug problem as evidenced by Jadedness video she made. This WHOLE FAMILY NEEDS HELP! I can only wonder is Chip ok?!?!?!
and tbh since eugenia is under her mother's roof, her mother is responsible for her wellbeing. if something happens to her, she cant really say "i did all i can" because from what we can tell that's not even true. how can her mom defend her flying around the countrty with eugenia if she's fine? what's her reason?
@@lisakemp7352where has Eugenia said that? All ive seen is where she says, I know she eats, i know she takes care of herself. Shes just a skinny minnie."
I have an overweight mother who gave me anorexia. She drilled into me that being fat was not only awful but gross. She encourages me to stay underweight because gaining any kind of weight is just gaining fat. So i understand the dynamic that could be happening within that home. Now that being said, her saying "I'm not sick I'm actually fine and just skinny" is the problematic behavior in question. She isn't healthy and the fact that she tells her audience that she is, is an issue. It's why so many want her off the internet. Someone already tried to get her help and she hated it so much that she unfriended that person and there's no way she'll ever let it happen again. She doesn't even drink water unless her fans BEG and even then she most likely won't. To the people in the comments saying that people are being too harsh on her, just you wait. She's not some innocent lil girl, she's 30 years old and killing herself.
My obese family aided in my ED development the opposite I was force fed as a child, my dad would buy me full Big Mac meals or make me a plate for the size of his 400lb self and hit/ berate me if I didn’t finish it. myself and entire family were obese and seeing my dad over 400lbs pretty much bedbound, having multiple heart attacks &developing diabetes gave me the intense fear of getting so fat dr’s will have to lift me out of my bed with a crane. I lost over 80lbs in like 6mo in my teens, in turn developing SEVERE complications. I broke my back, damaged my immune system, I’m constantly sick or have skin, ear throat infections, self harm, unalive attempts, etc I’m 26 and have been in a constant “recovery” and relapse cycle since my early teens. I honestly can’t see an end to this disease unless it’s the end of my life.
I had anorexia for 16 yrs, I've been well about 24 yrs now. Bitching at her, accusing her, whatever tf you're getting at, will only drive her deeper into the illness! You seem to be a finger pointer. I can assure you that your mother didn't "give you" an eating disorder. That's all you. It's a choice you made and it got away from you.
@@maloulaval I'm sorry but she's a grown women. Yes she's been manipulated by her mother into believing that if she leaves her mother that she will have a heart attack, but she's also clearly stated that she never wants to go back to a rehab center because of the way it made her feel.
One thing that REALLY bothers me on youtube, is how much shes promoted. If i search ANYTHING up, like a crochet tutorial, she will show up on a short. WHY??
Brilliant mini doco! Since it is made entirely from archival material, it's very powerful and invites viewers to make up their own minds. Fantastic compilation of relevant clips, exposing how the condition gradually consumes her. Part 3 should show her further descent into the world of the disease.
Gotta sat it. If Eugenia triggers ed in you then YOU need to take control of what’s going on with you. Do some soul searching and ask if you have a problem. People without ed don’t see her and have the desire to look like that. I’m a cancer patient and lost lots of weight I can’t seem to put back on, and I hate it. I hate looking to thin or sickly. If she triggers you, you are going thru something mentally you need to address. Because the next girl you see as thin as Eugina will do the same. Just because Eugina lives her life in a way you don’t like doesn’t mean she should be dehumanized or deplatformed. I’m so sorry she’s NOT influencing ANY young kids who aren’t already struggling with ed! Definitely no more than body mods and unhealthy amounts of plastic surgery or unhealthy parting to the point of death is pushed in other communities right here on RUclips. I’m also a former addict, if I watched the ip2 streaming community I’d be triggered af quick. But I don’t think they should be deplatformed for it. It’s THEIR LIFE and if they wanna live it in a way that makes ME feel triggered it’s my responsibility to not watch or engage but also to own my own reasons for being triggered by it and address them. If I was taking cancer treatment, and I just wanted to quit and livestream the last of my life that’s my decision because it’s my life. She’s not “ harming children “ or anything that’s dramatic af. Until y’all produce some evidence of her directly saying “ yeah you should be as thin as I am, being thin and sick like this is awesome!” She’s not harming anyone anymore then any other influencer who pushes unhealthy borderline self destructive behavior ( Tanna, Trisha, Jeffree, Jake and Logan, Ice Posiden, ect). You did an awesome job on this video! None of this comment is aimed towards you cause you killed it and I’ll definitely be checking out part 2. I can’t help but feel like Keem was kinda right when he said “ sue her for being to skinny “, because that girl sounds ridiculous. If you’re this mad at someone for YOUR ed, or you really feel your so easily influenced that just watching her gave you all your ed issues and you had none of them before watching her, I think you are just projecting a ton of anger and blame on her and bottom line is, that will never make YOU get well. She’s suffering from an ed while also just trying to do the small things that make her happy ( livestream, try on new cloths ect) and people wanna act like she’s out her promoting anorexia. She’s not! If I’m an addict and I exist online that doesn’t mean I promote doing drugs or being addicted. It simply means I want to be online and I suffer from mental illness. Doesn’t mean I have bad intentions or anything. I don’t think people consider that ever. All she’s really got is being online. If anything she’s an example of what can happen when you let that mental illness rule your life. Anyone who watches her and feels anything like they want to be like her need to get help for themselves asap because people who don’t have ed don’t look at her and see something they want to emulate.
I am surprised your comment is still up. Mine keeps being deleted: "Is it that time of the month again? Where creators exploit Eugenia for profit under the guise of "concern." Her short life is constantly being made miserable all for the sinister crime of visibly existing with a mental illness. What a monster. If only we could lock her away in a mental ward and strip her of her autonomy to make the commenters feeling better about their own mental illnesses."
Kids nowadays won't take reason for their own media consumption and demand the producer or media censors themselves or deletes their content. I see it all the time.
Thanks Mr. Snow for including the testimonials of those brave kids talking about how Eugenia influenced them. I hope they're all doing much better these days. Great video, as always.
Funny I interpreted it not as brave but as an attempt to blame someone else for their own disorders. They were drawn to her because they already had the urge within themselves. No healthy person sees someone that sick and thinks “I wish I looked like that.” Those people are just as sick but maybe more harmful than Eugenia ever could be as they are actively trying to destroy her source of income while she tries to spread kindness.
Just imagine if their own parents had been giving them more attention and been a better influence on them? instead of relying on the Internet and placing the blame on a mentally unwell Eugeina?
eugenia didnt intend to, but it isnt hard to imagine that seeing videos of her body wouldnt make someone who was already struggling with ed make them feel even worse about themselevs@@illumindonnaughty
@@illumindonnaughty it could just as easily be that they do have parents who gave them plenty of attention and yet still their children developed an ED.
@@illumindonnaughtylook how involved Eugenia’s mom was and what happened to her. *Yes* parents need to monitor the media their children consume to make sure it isn’t harmful, but there is a balance.
I can’t imagine how exhausted she must be all the time. I know whenever I relapse with my ed, I can’t handle the abuse I was putting my body through when I first developed it at 12. Trying to treat my body that way now will cause me the worst brain fog, dizziness and full body pain. I can’t imagine how she must feel on the day to day after being sick for so long. There’s no way she’s comfortable. Just sitting down, sleeping, getting ready or just existing must be a little painful
Amazing job as always. Crazy how I saw the first clips in this episode and thought EC looks so much healthier there...speaks to how grim it's gotten since
People blaming Eugenia for their eating disorder because Eugenia was so “beautiful” and “thin” in their eyes is like people blaming women for getting r8ped because of what they’re wearing. I don’t buy it that she caused anybody’s EDs or needs to hide herself from the world bc someone might be drawn to her appearance. It’s not her responsibility to be everyone’s positive role model or protect other people’s kids from her “influence.” And Clare is a sad little clout chaser who should focus on her ED/mental issues instead of obsessing over Eugenia all day long. Edit to add: I doin’t think there’s hope left for Eugenia to come back from this, but I truly wish for her to get help and live some semblance of a life that isn’t just suffering.
This illness DOES often perpetuate itself socially...That is why "pro ana" communities exist! Not the same at all as blaming someone for being assaulted...
@@MrSnowflake I don't know if it's because of your ALR doc series or the fact that she uses the word obsess a lot, but I first thought you said "Obese away" lol... I agree though. Your documentaries are fantastic!
Random thought: The fact that RUclips censors people from even saying, "eating disorder" when they're telling their stories in trying to help others from going down that path, is INSANE.
Great, as usual. I was oblivious and ignorant of the blue butterfly thing….what was running through my head from the start tho was about the species of moth that emerges from cocoon without a mouth. Interesting she used the word “cocoon” over “crysalis”, or maybe I’m just a former first grade teacher who did a unit on butterflies. I love that you do these.
Her mother has some form of munchausen it seems.... shes kept euginia sick and kept her in a bubble so that shes dependent on her for absolutely everything...now euginia is lost wanting to remain a little girl forever..this is a main trigger for anorexia i understand the ins and outs of it having had both anorexia and bulima complexities... Im surprised euginia hasnt been sectioned as shes a danger to herself .😢
I’m glad you decided to stick with your “no narration” style for this series. Eugenia is a controversial figure, and I’m sure there’s a lot you want to say, but the sad truth is she doesn’t have much time left in this world, so that was definitely the more respectful choice, as many people will probably watch this posthumously.
The first time i judged my body was in like 5th grade. I looked at myself in the mirror and thought "hey, i have a belly. That doesnt look good". And the downward spiral started. Along with bullying and boys always reminding me im ugly and indesirable, at 17 years old i was convinced i would never find love. I dont have anorexia, but i developed BPD, an anxiety disorder and ocd tendencies. I hate my body and i wonder how i escaped anorexia. I often worry about calories and suffer over not fitting in older clothes. I cant imagine her pain, and even though im not making excuses for her behavior and refusal to change, i can't help but hurt for her.
I am so sorry things have been unfair and hard for you. The fact you can still have empathy for those struggling too shows no one has crushed your soul yet. it's beautiful and valid. much love and support.
you are beautiful. you compassion and empathy, that's beautiful. i know one thing that helped me was to remember that my body is a vessel. it's like a car for my mind to get around in. and i can't live my life, i can't go to concerts and do my job and spend time with loved ones or cuddle my kitty if the vessel i'm in (my body) is too weak to do those things. i have a lot of weird issues with food, some sensory issues and stuff, and sometimes eating feels more like a chore than anything else. i just don't want to. but i do anyway, because i have to. i have to put gas in the tank and take care of this body, because i only have one. and i need it to be healthy so that i can go do the things i want to do and experience the joy and beauty of the world. your body's size doesn't matter. what matters is what you can USE that body for: things like volunteering and helping people, rescuing animals, or even fun stuff just for yourself: going on a hike and breathing in the fresh air and feeling the sun on your face, playing instruments and making music that fills your heart with joy, whatever it is you love. your body is just a vessel, it doesn't have to be perfect for it to function. and what matters isn't the vessel or your body itself. what matters is the PERSON inside that vessel, the mind and heart inside that vessel and all the amazing things you can do with that mind and that beautiful, kind, compassionate heart. i dunno if trying to think like that will help you, but i know ti really helped me to shift my thinking. it helped me stop comparing my body to other people's, helped me stop feeling insecure and unattractive because i'm flat as a door. it just helped me find peace with my body to think of it as the vessel for my mind and heart and soul, and not something i need to fix or perfect or work on.
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Wow. The small RUclipsrs you featured who were speaking out about how EC affected their mental health is absolutely staggering. Thank you for sharing those. Honestly snowflake you’re brilliant at what you do!!
Goes to show how neglected those kids are. Not only they had unmonitored unlimited internet access but they also weren't taught any form of self preservation nor self love.
I love this video ❤ it is so tragically sad which is perfect for this case 😢 it is beyond horrible to watch someone slowly waste away, especially when you see just how kind hearted she was before she started to decline at a much faster rate than she was beforehand. Seeing her with her grandmother for instance honestly brought a tear to my eye, just gave off a very kind soul type of vibe. I relate a lot to her before she was first 5150'd, i have anorexia and have had since late childhood, mine isnt anorexia nervosa though (the one that makes you want to be skinny) it is just anorexia due to me having a physical health condition that makes eating very painful at times, I have had all of my large bowel removed and some of my small bowel too during surgeries for my crohns disease (have had 10 major surgeries for that so far) As a kid I developed an aversion almost to food because it hurt me. And now im an adult my body is still conditioned to survive on very tiny amounts- I don't feel faint or sick or grumpy if i dont eat, even my blood tests come back as semi normal when im clearly always underweight and barely consuming anything- it is beyond crazy what the human body can survive on! But thats it its just surviving, im not thriving thats for certain 😅 as an nhs patient I have not had anything done to help with this anorexia, I have just started therapy though so I am hoping to reprogram my body when it comes to food, I know it will never just go away fully coz im 30 now and it has been going on for 20 years but I want any change that is positive ❤ 30s and 40s is the age longterm anorexic people tend to start dropping like flies and that is terrifying to me, I have always had a gut instinct that it'll be my heart that gives out eventually not my other health issues, I hope I am wrong and am doing everything I can think of to lessen the chance of that ❤
its honestly sad shes so chronically online and has been since highschool, but she has no need to go out in the real world since she's set for life from all her online stuff. she'll just never change i think
I really hope Eugenia sees this. This is such an honest and tender reflection of what’s going on with her. She’s such a genuine and kind person and she doesn’t deserve all the negativity she’s compulsively giving herself. All we want for her is for her to be comfortable and happy. It’s so saddening to see how we can rob ourselves of that opportunity. Thank you for portraying her story in such a nuanced way
This is rough.. I never watched her stuff but saw when people would use her to boost their own channels (creeps like Onion and Shane Dawson). I was with Ana as a teenager and most of came from wanting to be able to control SOMEthing in all the chaos around me at all times, even if it was harmful it was a battle I could fight intentionally when everything else was so out of my depth to manage at the time. I have fully recovered and health is very important to me. Those who have been through it knows it’s a psychological battle that manifests physically. Those that don’t think it’s for the benefit of being thin to other people. When I got a lot of attention while being skinny it scared me and made me feel like a target; it wasn’t the goal.
This poor girl -- a distant father, an immature mother who feeds off her daughter's "fame" for being starved to death, No direction, no one to save her. I am an ex-nurse who has cared for anorexics and the resounding theme is "perfectionism" - trying to "be the best" - so dangerous and hungry for Love. So sad.
You can't tell me she's not talking about it when she's constantly acknowledging the comments or body checking on camera. She's not just peacefully existing online. She's definitely contributing.
As someone whos suffering from the same disorder, I find it laughable thay she gets add revenues and you can even say the Ana word. I hope this video reach some people as hard as it did me. You present things in such a way that I cant** only broke down and cry. Gotta go, I have a meal to eat. ❤
I know this will sound cliché but start exercising and having a healthy exercise plan.... I know it's a pain in the butt starting out. It takes true dedication but I promise if you put just a single month of dedication with a workout plan it will completely change your life in the most positive of ways. The body craves positive attention and when you start treating the body right the body will literally tell you exactly what it wants. You'll start getting the best REM sleep in your life and you'll actually wake up feeling refreshed and ready for the new day.... I'm telling you, just 1 month is all it takes and the dedication will become habit and you'll start craving treating the body right! You only get this one life, you deserve to make it the best life possible! Any anxiety, depression, negative cravings and bad habits will be washed away. DO IT! YOU DESERVE IT!
@@TerminalM193 i mean, yeah, exercise is healthy, but maybe not the best advice for someone suffering with an ED. should probably focus on overcoming the disordered thoughts and making peace with eating normally first. THEN you can't get into exercise and living a generally healthy lifestyle overall. but first you have to get healthy. and if you're fighting an ED, the last thing you need is to become as addicted to working out as you are to restricting, because that can be just as damaging.
keep fighting. i know it' so hard, but if you keep fighting, i promise one day you can get to a place where food doesn't control your life or consume your thoughts anymore. you can get to a place where the kind of thing that takes up space in your head is your excitement and anticipation to finally go to this concert and see this band you love. where instead of obsessing over calories, you're obsessing about the new album that just dropped and picking out exactly what you're gonna wear to the concert, and writing the band a note to tell them how much their music has helped you, and looking at their merch on their website so you can pick out a shir to buy. (music is my thing, obviously, lol) that's just a personal example, cuz i love music. but my point is that if you fight for recovery, you can get to a place where the disorder doesn't own you anymore. and then instead, you have all this free room in your head to think about other stuff you actually like. you have time to do things you want to do for fun, and you don't have to always be anxious about people seeing you or trying to hide things and pretend or lie about what's going on. you can just exist and spend you energy pursuing whatever it is you love instead. i only say this, cuz i know it can be hard to picture feeling or being any other way when that's what you're used to. so it can be hard to imagine what "better" even means when people say it gets better. but that's what better means. it means freedom to do other things, and to have other thoughts, ones that don't make you feel crappy or fill you with anxiety. and yeah, it can be a struggle to get there, but i promise it's worth it. YOU are worth it. and remember, it's about progress, not perfection. it's okay to have hard days or to struggle. that's normal. just as long as you don't give up and you keep fighting those thoughts when they get nasty, eventually you'll get to a place where the fighting gets easier to do. and then you'll get to a place where it's not a fight anymore. just keep trying, even if you slip up. because all that matters is that you keep going
@@bottomofastairwell Proper exercise will make the body crave sustenance for fuel. There's no exercise plan in this world that also doesn't include a specific diet whether it be high calorie, low or in between. With a dedicated exercise plan of even the most simple of starting points the body will literally make you crave what it needs to continue growing and evolving all the way from burning fat, trying to put on weight through both fat and muscle or just strict muscle growth. As a physical therapist I've come across all shapes and sizes in both appearances and mental capacity. Those of my patients with debilitating mental illnesses or negative attitude that decide to actually take on my challenge of just 1 month of true dedication have completely turned their lives around for the better, both mentally and physically. Of course it's not a full proof plan and it's easy to slip through the cracks on many different aspects of the plan it's still gets easier and easier the closer you get to the end of that month and everything becomes human habit.... Humans are creatures of habit after all.
I can’t even put into words how badly I want to see her success story, I want to see her win. I know I’m not the only one but her “redemption arc” (for lack of a better explanation) would be so inspirational & probably legitimately life saving to some watching her & following in her footsteps. The only way I feel about her is sad. She has always seemed like such a light & it’s heartbreaking to watch her continue to dim because of the immense suffering. You did such a great job making her real, a real normal person suffering, in this video.
The fact that everyone in the family is overweight and she is the only one that is not. I recall her saying she hated it when people called her family fat.
That was one of the most well rendered and meticulously crafted creations I've probably watched in a decade. The symbolism of the monarch to the blue butterfly did not escape me. Your production is an utter masterpiece. I wish miss Eugenia could grasp her value. It is endlessly frustrating to watch her because she is being trafficked right in front of us. Rescue for her is extremely difficult because her living situation is her normal. She knows, and has never known a different life. Sure we could nab her and throw her in an institution for whatever period of time. She will not change because she has already built the foundation of her identity. I do not think she should be deplatformed because of her ED for multiple reasons. One, on mom's part, this is perhaps Munchausen by Proxy. Two, this is how Eugenia identifies. She intends no harm. Her content validates her and placates scary mom. Three, lovely girl has no life skills other than creating content. So what are the options? We can take her source of income, remove her from mom, and she will be left without shelter and any life skills. She needs real friends. However, my instinct tells me mom edges them out. She seems like a very lovely person. What we are all witnessing is a crime and a travesty. Mom should be incarcerated but that would destroy Eugenia; she naturally loves her mom. I wish I knew a solution. Her mother is exploiting her and the whole world is watching. Like I can't... All my love and best intentions go out to this young woman. She deserves better than social media slavery.
I like this new format. You didn't even need to say a word. Show don't tell at its finest. The message is more impactful when you let the subject speak for itself. You put a lot of work and thought into this and it shows.
She needs to be removed from the platform. It’s far past the point now. The children she’s affected in the early years are now ages 20-30 years old. More children will become adults, and even more sociological-psychological data will be affirmed. This is not free speech. This is body checking and profiting from her spectacle. It is adult content.
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It's insane we can't even say "anorexia".
It's a horrible disease that need to be talked about and not censored
Blame RUclips
I agree: banning the word doesn’t make it stop happening in the world. Stupid idea, Mr/Ms RUclips. I’ve been saying it for years.
Yes there's nothing inherently wrong to talk about it. I do understand them censoring content that promotes it. *Ahhem*
I used to have a fitness ig. It was mostly to document for me but at some point i made a post for ed sufferers. Basically, it was just "youre striggling but you deserve to be kinder to yourself."
Without warning, i lost the page. It was completely deleted and i couldn't even save the posts. I was really sad because it documented 4 years of revovery from my own ed. I just had to use the word ana once and all of that was gone.
Might trigger a flake I guess 🙃
Hearing how articulate and well spoken she used to be, thats the hardest part for me and many others im sure. Seeing the body waste away is 1 thing, but to see such a bright young mind wither away is another.
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Yeah… I was nowhere near her point but the brain fog is so bad when you’re starving your body and brain of what it needs. I felt like I couldn’t function. Which I was an honour student in my school years. I treasured my mind a lot.. then suddenly I just felt so stupid. Being skin and bones wasn’t worth loosing my spark and wisdom..
Yea, thats the most heartbreaking part for me. Somewhere along the line she gave up trying
@@MrsDogLover unfortunately it's the disease. I understand that your brain works against you at that point, what I don't get is how any of her family never got her committed. How can you claim to be a mother, while sitting back and watching your child kill themselves. She's too old for that now, but she wasn't when she started. Some people have said that even at her age, her mom could still have her committed. So I don't know what to think there.
@@cadavherAny judge would give her parents power over her medical choices and they could force her into treatment legally, no doubt about it, but they choose not to. To me this is negligence, to stand by and do nothing when someone clearly needs aid in order to save their life.
Eugenia's grandmother was probably the *only* positive light in her life. I personally believe that once she passed, any will to live or get better also left Eugenia. I remember a comment she made after a troll told her that she'd be seeing her grandmother soon in the afterlife, and Eugenia responded with, "At least I'll be with her" in her serious non-childish voice.
YEP! People love attacking her, I think her whole family but her grandmother used her in some way...I think she got this way cuz of her mother...I mean look at her. I think she didnt want to look like her and abuse from other kids, and then her mother saw her as cashcow..I think she is now waits for reaper, and will greet him as a old friend. And shes just living as free and happy as she can. I think shes should still be able to make videos do what she does, and all these "shes bad to watch" noooo shes just girl with disorder that cuz worst cuz of her abuse by her mother, she never once promote her way...by choice it was all her mothers doing people dont get it...but seems last few years seems be just doing her..sure she is molding her clothing and stuff but I think she really think she is pretty and I think she low key shes trying to say but not say "even if you have disorder you can still be happy and pretty" why I think she shows what she does..its not that promoting her body shes promoting sometimes you cant beat this disorder and you need to accpet it, try to be happy...and live as normal as you can
That's so sad. That poor woman. She needs help, not hate from everyone on the internet. I haven't understood all the videos against her for simply existing while she is sick...
Not exactly a ‘troll’ to make a comment like that. It’s common sense and telling people what they need to hear isn’t a bad thing. .. she’s 30, Don’t doubt she’ll be with her gran by end of the year 😔
@@QUEENOBSCURE I almost believed you. It sounds good but she knows exactly what she's doing and she's doing it on purpose.
She's focused on being appealing to children with her Disney stuff and showing off some little watch thing that's obvious meant for kids.
And that's not right. 😮
It's clear Eugenia is so ill she just wants to die. Her Mam should be proactive in getting her Daughter help, not putting her down
It appears obvious EUGENIA'S MOTHER IS LETTING HER DAUGHTER DIE!!! if she truly cared she would get Eugenia sectioned she obviously lacks capacity at this moment in time and requires hospital admission. Is there no medical facilities in America, - I am glad I don't live over there, I would not be here today (bi-polar 1, stroke heart, etc). God Bless Pauline
Oh god, the brother, the mother's neurosis, the lock on the door...i dont think anyone has ever looked this hard at her childhood. Thank you for treating her like a person.
This awful Voice and stupid blahblah..
It was a lock from the inside so yeah she didn't want them walking in
That stuff has all been on the internet before.
Brother looks like Chris Chan
Some of her family members are overweight, unfortunately that can make an ED's annoying voice sound louder as it tells the sufferer that she will look the same due to genetics (not true) unless she gives in to the unhealthy things it wants her to do. 😢
I had anorexia 6 years ago, I didn’t see myself skinny at all, I felt obese but one night I took acid, had a bad trip and in the morning when I looked in the mirror I was horrified to see myself that skinny, I couldn’t believe it and I started to cry. That was the end for me at least for a time. It’s true nobody can help you other than yourself at that point. I hope she can recover
This is so fascinating to hear, because OfHerbsAndAltars here on RUclips had a sort of similar experience with their ED. If I’m remembering the story time right, they took some sort of hallucinogen and, like you, it gave them a different perspective. I think the use of certain “taboo” drugs to treat certain mental illnesses is something deserving of more study. Also glad to hear it seems you are doing better, and I hope that healing continue for you.
@@IvorySirenI wouldn't say she's treated in any capacity...
@@e_i_e_i_bro Um well she said it's been 6 years so ...
Illicit drugs 1, therapy 0. Stuff fluoride, dose the reservoirs with everything on the naughty list I say! Let's be all we can be!
Can't be much worse than what we are.
I saw a video where people alleged Eugenia and jefree were doing Drugs together… and now I do hope so, maybe whatever is was will have a realization check on herself
She was my thinspo until I had a heart attack, been on the road to recovery for 2 years now. First thing I've watched about her since, well made mr snowflake. lots of love to all those suffering with ED.
Congrats on 2 years that’s amazing!!
Yes please give yourself the credit you are due.
Two years is an outstanding achievement, I hope you’re able to look at that amount of time and know how incredible it is!💜
Thank you everyone. Sending good vibes and hugs.
Never surrender 🥰
It’s hard to find words to explain how beautifully you captured her suffering. I think Eugenia died a long time ago and what little we see that is left of her is her ED. Her personality, her light, her soul, and of course her body, is gone now. If some miracle happened and she wanted to get better, it is too late now. The damage and suffering has gone on for too long now. She is nearly 30 and has spent half of her life in true suffering. Thank you Mr Snowflake for accurately and tastefully piece together what she has captured of her life.
Well you are very welcome. It’s a shame because out of everyone I’ve made a video on she’s probably my favourite. But yeah very sad
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@@MrSnowflakehello! I was wondering in what way is she your favourite? Do you like her, or is she just the most interesting? Genuinely wondering, because I don't know if I like her...
Can definitely relate. I was mostly a skeleton until my mid-20s. I hated eating with people in general since they would always ask or make fun of me about it. There's always hope if you keep trying, don't give up.
@@JohnTitor20361sometimes, with people with extreme EDs, if they have had it for a long, long time, it doesn't matter if they try to get better; it's too late. There are people who do choose recovery but end up dying anyway because the damage already done to their organs is too severe. It's very sad, but sometimes people just can't get better.
Putting all these in order like this really really says a lot about her and her situation in such an important way. These are her words. There isn’t anything to be misconstrued with it. This is more honesty than anyone could have imagined. Thank you for taking the time to do this. You really have made the most impactful video.
Well thank you for that comment. Yeah i like how the series turned out. I hope she gets better but I hoped that last time I made a video and things have gotten worse for her.
As a filmmaker who is looking to step away from creative short films for a bit and venture into the world of documentary, this is truly a masterpiece and something to inspire. Despite no dialogue to lead the story, the story is still so incredibly cohesive and engaging. Great job man, keep up the good work!
Seeing how she used to speak in complete sentences and have opinions and genuinely smile is heartbreaking.
Her mom has some serious issues.. the way she freaks and flips out over the smallest things, keeps her under her thumb, doesn't let her do normal things people her age should be doing is really sick. I feel bad for how she was raised and whats she has been through/deals with. The whole situation is just a horribly sad thing. She might have been savable had she been takin out of that enviroment a long time ago. Just my opinion. I could go on but yeah..
Her mom definitely has blame in this. But Eugenia is also to blame. A lot of people come from abusive childhoods and they choose to save themselves. Eugenia has money, resources. Even if she didnt- her friend Jaclyn Glen offered her own home and said if Eugenia ever wanted to escape and get away, her door was always open. Eugenia wasn't thankful, she condemned Jaclyn. She hates Jaclyn for arranging a 5150. She's nearly 30 years old. She could take control of her life today if she really wanted to.
My mum was similar with the thinking she lost items . That doesn’t make her responsible for Eugenia’s issues
From what one of her friends has revealed she has medical issues and that’s why her mother is always close by . Her mother is the one that knows what to do if something goes wrong
@@lisakemp7352 So, while that may be true, the fact still stands that Eugenia’s mother abused and neglected her, and that’s why she is sick. The neglect caused her health issues. Her mother neglected her, therefore, her mother is garbage. Eugenia could’ve gotten better had she not been trapped by her mother. My mother has borderline personality disorder, and she chose to perpetuate the cycle of abuse and now I am damaged. Our parents are responsible for us in our childhood, and childhood/trauma is usually where disorders tend to stem from. Eugenia could’ve been helped had her mentally ill mother stopped trying to live vicariously through her daughter, whom she neglected and will soon pass away.
@@lisakemp7352 And despite Eugenia being nearly 30, she was stuck in a toxic environment. You grow as big as the pot you’re planted in, and how you’re cared for. Eugenia was seriously neglected even before adulthood, so you are so delusional that I hope you get well soon.
She had no friends in school and was bullied. Her dad wasn't there for her. Her mom was highly stressed. Her brother special needs. And bullied relentlessly on the internet. Plus, she became friends with Jeffree Starr and other mentally predatory people on the internet who have their own body image issues.
It's no wonder we are where we are with her. My heart breaks for her.
I never thought about it before but seeing her in this I realize that she is very good with elderly people - especially someone going through what he grandmother went through. She's very gentle and patient.
she could have been an amazing palliative or hospice care nurse for the elderly, or a home health aid. she could have done plenty of things to use that ability to spread kindness in the world and truly help others.
instead, she influences young people to unknowingly follow down the same dark and devastating path and doesn't care one bit about the harm she's causing.
what a damn waste
She seems more comfortable and at ease around her grandmother than she does around her mother.
@@bottomofastairwellnot defending her, but maybe Eugenia feels trapped. The internet is her money. After she came out of rehab a few years ago, after the “return of Eugenia “ Shane Dawson video, she began making recovery related content. She looked well, and even brought out an ED specialist and did a segment. Do you know what happened to her channel after she “got well”??? People stopped watching. Woman probably feels trapped. Give Eugenia a way to get better, without hurting her finances. Maybe then she would try. Eugenia is in a Unique dilemma/situation only the internet could create. One in which her eating disorder is tied to her income, fame, and finances. Most people commenting have had an ED before, or knows someone who has. Just imagine how much more difficult recovery would be, in a situation like Eugenia’s. Most people can’t
@@AmandaBella100 oh i can't imagine how much more complex having a platform the way she does makes the situation. sadly, i don't think it's helping her now though. because the kind of attention she gets, good or bad, really only fuels her disorder.
as for money, i'm pretty sure she has enough and that money isn't the concern. she could leave the internet tomorrow and be fine. it's not like she'd ever be at risk of being homeless, you know?
but the part that DOES matter is her lifestyle. and i think for better or worse, the internet is really her only avenue for socialization and interacting with other people (besides her immediate family). because she doesn't really go out or have hobbies that take her outside of her home. she doesn't have a job or friends. so she rarely leaves her house (well, except for now that she's hanging out with Jeffree. but that might actually be good for her, to get out of the house and just be normal. who knows?) i think honestly, the social interaction is the biggest part of it
@@AmandaBella100are is now trolling her audience, cashing in on her ED. Deb and EC are straight trolls. EC knows exactly what she’s doing triggering young girls as they gift her money on social media. It’s cold and calculated. I don’t feel sorry for her one bit. People are getting sick of her and her bs.
The whole hotel live was insane. I can see why this has such a hold on her. She is in control of so little and everything is so chaotic. I can see the pressure she is under even in the early days.
"She is in control of so little".... That's the deeper issue with "ED's".... They usually lack any and all control of every aspect of their life and in turn, they subconsciously figure out that the one thing they can control is what goes in their mouth... And it very quickly gets out of control since they finally are fully in control of something...
" The Best Little Girl In The World " by Steven Levenkron (psychotherapist) was a very informative book that's really opens up how deep the issue is and really isn't about losing weight... I was in high school when I read it and at the time had only read about five books due to my reading level being at about 2nd-3rd grade level and My reading comprehension at a 1st grade level, that said I, I couldn't put the book down... As well as his other book, "The Luckiest Girl In The World"
Eugenia really hits close to home for me. I find myself checking her channel every couple months just to make sure she’s still with us. It’s devastating what her mind has done to her. Thank you for letting her tell her own story.
I'll add this: no matter how mentally unwell Deb may appear, she's clearly cognitively aware enough to have a role and have a say in all of this.
I actually think that Eugenia holds the power, because she does.
Oh, she had to turn her camera off?! Oh no!
Listen, the girl can't even have moments with her family without that camera stuck to her. Deb is pretty cool with it, but yeah, sometimes it's just way too much. She's changing and Eugenia tells chat she's fully naked. Well, how nice of her. That's f'd up.
Her very shy brother (hey, wouldn't you be?)
Doesn't want the camera even on at all! Wonder why. Maybe because she keeps calling him, maybe because she accidentally keeps calling him Chip.
Who cares!
Her streaming all the time would be shut down by most mothers. Eugenia has ALWAYS gotten to do what she really wants.
After the 5150? Both her & her mom were terrified that she would be taken away. So, she stayed in her room to stream. "Chat" has become a literal person.
Any power Deb has is given to her by Eugenia. She allows her mother some respect as a mother. Other than that, if Eugenia wants to do something, collabs, yt fests, "interviews" which started her ED back fully, thanks Shane. Learning to drive. Jet setting to Wyoming, home, LA, Wyoming and home again. All the while spending thousands on Jeffree's TikTok battles, (I guess Deb doesn't control the purse strings).
Eugenia wants to live at home, as a "kept" woman who controls everything, well that's what she does. Eugenia has always been a "kept girl/woman" this is because her family is very wealthy. This is why she doesn't know how to do anything. She makes content pretending to do things that she will never try again, unless on her own (which I can't set happening without a butler & chauffeur).
So, take that into consideration.
If anyone sees this comment please give a like. I'm being shadow
Banana'd big time. Yes, just on comments. smh
Having a say doesn't mean anything, ED's are vicious and completely warp your reality, nothing anyone says or does will fix her.
She actively tried to stop the intervention
#ThatPart 💯 💯 💯
She's messed up. I have a sensor for her kind of people, due to bad childhood, and she makes me freeze mentally at times.
This was MASTERFULLY done. This is the best Eugenia short film that has been made. It doesn’t degrade her. It doesn’t mock her or her illness (which people with ED appreciate). It doesn’t make her the bad guy, but it paints a picture clearly. It’s almost as if this were an “in memory of” type video. A memorial. Grieving the one who is still alive… because we are.
I have a lot to say. I’ve been watching your channel for sometime, Mr. Snowflake, and I love your content. As someone who fell down the Eugenia rabbit hole October 2022 and never really came out of it still (to this day…), I can say I’ve watched a LOT of EC content to trigger myself while also trying to scare myself away from restrictive eating & recover at the same time. It’s hard to explain but an ED person will understand. I’m 32 and I was also bullied, just like her, from a YOUNG age. I will never forget those awful girls who made fun of my body in swim class in the 7th grade. They didn’t know they would cause people like Eugenia, myself and so many others to suffer for a lifetime. Mental illness is a tricky one.
This is beautifully done. Seriously. 🦋 Thank you for painting her in a proper light. ✨ I am so excited for this series! It was emotional, captivating, as unbiased as possible when it comes to the Cooney family, and just a wonderfully written and crafted video. You are amazing.
Yes Mr Snowflake did an exceptionally good job.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 ABSOLUTELY
You could be a writer. Love the way you’ve written this message.
@@christinagrant3252 This was very well worded and honestly think she could be a great writer. it was very beautiful worded.
I got bullied for being thin when I was young. I'm 29 and have gained 40 pounds and now I feel fat. Some people say I look healthy now, sone say I'm still too small. And I've been called fat.
I had anorexia for 16 years. There is NOTHING her mother or anyone else can do for her, until she decides that she's sick and tired of being sick and tired.
I've been well for nearly 25 yrs now. You can recover, but you have to want to.
Facts can't help someone who doesn't want the help
Her weird mother is actively encouraging the status quo
@@KrystleVoss2013literally. Reminds me of the saying. “Can’t save someone who doesn’t want to be saved” :/
🥺 i fear she doesn’t want to.
I agree, but you have to also consider the nuance... her mother actively enables her to continue her behavior. No one is an island.
I never heard of the brother before. The fact that he’s obese , and seems to have a mental disability seems relevant. Siblings of someone who has a disability or behavioral disorder often develop an invisibility complex , or some sort of other behavior seeking disorder
thank you for being compassionate in this… iv been in eating disorders hospitials 8 times in 19 years for anorexia n bulimia.. iv met many women n some men just like her… it’s a devastating mental illness… x
Oh, you're doing this one justice 👏👏👏
The amount of videos on Eugenia out there is insane, but this might be the best one yet ❤️ such an honest and detailed look at her and her past. Can't wait for part 2.
Part 2 is my favourite part
@@MrSnowflakeRelease it now or Jimmy gets kidnapped!
@@InsomniOwl_ Watch yourself boy, I'm one of the #BunkerBoyz and nothing happens to SlimJimBunker while we're on duty.
@@InsomniOwl_More than he already is??
@@InsomniOwl_its out now for members and paterons!
I find it hard to know what is genuine sweetness with this girl's personality, as opposed to whether its more of an overly cutsie persona she adopts to escape her reality.
I think it’s her true nature but it’s become a coping mechanism so it’s both at this point. Isolation is a hell of a thing. She’s been alone her entire life. Think about how we all felt during lockdown. Now imagine that is your entire life.
It’s all fake. She makes fun of her fans and everyone who’s actually nice to her. She also makes fun of other people with EDs.
I think it’s both
Over the years it’s gotten faker and faker that’s for sure
It's not real. Her actual voice comes out when she's being genuine
jealous toxic mothers always destroy their daughters
Narssitic parents
Facts 💯 My mother is that way and she's trashed my life, wrecked my mental health and done some disgusting things to me but believes she hasn't, I'll never associate with her again
As someone who was also harassed and assaulted in school, my ED helped me get through it. Intense and horrific circumstances cause people to develop extreme coping mechanisms which is likely the case for her. As grateful as I am to no longer have an ED, I'm also grateful that I had it during my darkest years because it helped me not kill myself.
Interesting perspective all things considered. Thanks for sharing
My mother became anorexic bc she wanted to die
im glad it worked out in the end, i wish you had proper help during that time so you didn't have to hurt your body to cope. I hope, as a society, care is READILY PROVIDED instead of allowing these things to go on.
Remember when people are mean it’s not because there’s something wrong with you..
It means there’s something wrong with them..
People like that can sense something internal about others, certain people have something beautiful internally but those with the cold hearts can’t figure out what it is that really bothers them about that person..
Hopefully it’s a lesson to side with good and not evil, because our bodies are nothing, they are temporary physical shells that hold us..
We all are so much more, something the eye cannot see..
A ton of people get home schooled. Maybe this is just a male perspective. But bullying is wrong. But also most people get bullied in life and have to get past it. It's a part of growing up. Just getting moved out of school and home schooled im not sure is the best decision.
Holy shit this was a fantastic documentary. The visuals were excellent at displaying the depth of the situations
I'm actually very disappointed in how you portray Jaclyn Glenn in Part 3. I hope you take the time to re-edit and upload something that fixes that, as I would like to continue watching series. Peace and love ❤
I have noticed it before and just now hearing her dad once more telling her she looks beautiful breaks my heart… hearing a dad not knowing what to do or say to help but still tries to remind her she’s his precious daughter is devastating(hopefully he wont turn out to be terrible later on in the videos 🤞)
Her father is a Dr of some sort I believe so he probably is at a loss by now. He isn’t a terrible, I don’t think her father is the problem in the family at all. He just wants his life to remain private so he doesn’t go on camera.
I have seen this Why doesn’t Kathy eat breakfast thing before.
This situation is a very hard thing to treat, it has a high failure rate and a lot of times I believe that no one knows exactly what to do after awhile.
Eugenia was absolutely beautiful and could have stayed a model if she had just had the right rep and had stayed healthier.
I also think she’s struggling even more right now in particular, due to the loss of her grandmother who she clearly genuinely loved, and who shows genuine love toward Eugenia.
Thought he was in finance 🤔
@@AKayfabehe is an investment broker or something to do with finance in NYC.
Yeah cause a dad that constantly forgets his daughter’s birthday sounds like such a great dad 🙄 he’s never on camera anyway so we have no idea if he’s contributed or enabled her ED.
I’ve never heard her dad even speak before this but the fact that he apologized profusely for calling her on Christmas Day doesn’t really seem like a healthy, strong relationship indicator. Then there’s the fact that he “forgets” her birthday. Cant say much based off a 30 second introduction but it doesn’t seem too promising js
I didn’t know her father was always away and never remembered her birthday : ( thanks for the series snowflake
Right never knew she had such a mentally, emotionally, and physically absent father. But it makes everything make sense.
Plot twist: the Dad has a second family in NY
@@leeludallasYou know what, that could very well be possible with how absent he is in their lives
My dad forgot my birthday *once* and I cried
I can't imagine the pain of her dad constantly forgetting the day his only daughter was born
@@leeludallasI can believe it!
So weird the word anorexia is against the “rules” of RUclips. Scary place and time.
Her schoolmates were jealous, imo.
She looks like a doll, but when you are pretty and an introvert, that's a bad combo.
Also, this video is feels like a tribute, like she already passed. It is so sad, yet beautiful.
Right?! She is absolutely gorgeous! Like look at that face.
Exactly what I thought also.
The girl suing her seems...unhinged...
Yep she definitely has he own issues
This kind of artistry, attention and detail is masterful. I don't follow Eugenia but I know who she is. I remember the very first time that I saw her. I was scrolling throughout my recommendations, and this picture kept coming up. It was, what assumed, was a horror genre photograph of a skeleton in a mermaid costume. I finally was so annoyed, it's not really my taste and to MY horror, this is a living person? How is she alive? Still smh...
Give her your love, your hate, your fear, your concerns, your passion....
It's all the food she needs!
It's the mental disorder that craves it. Good, bad, worry, begging, it's all feeding her disease. It's the same spectrum with someone like Amber Lynn. IMO. Telling someone like Eugenia to "eat a sandwich" or telling ALR to "put down that sandwich!"
Would be like telling someone with severe anxiety and panic disorder to, just relax. Telling someone with severe depression or may be thinking of un-aliving themselves to just, 'think happy thoughts."
It just doesn't work like that. There's mental illnesses there that need those specialized to treating specific conditions. There is zero shame in any mental illness and it takes bravery, courage and strength to fight and be your own hero. There is nothing they haven't heard before, the things that you keep down in that deep dark place because it's too traumatic, too painful, too much is exactly where you need to go. Surrender to the process, medications and therapy will help you to help yourself. I promise.
Brilliantly done. I say prayers for her and anyone that suffers from such a cruel and viscous disease. 💔
Very well said!!!❤❤❤❤
Not only this, but even saying those types of things may just be reinforcement to continue what she is doing. "People are "hating" on me and calling me names for being thin sooooo, that means what I'm doing is working and I'm skinny!"
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Exactly!! 💯 agree 💕
Beautifully stated ❤
💯 agree brilliantly done !!!!! Epic !
Oh mylanta....this is heartbreaking 😢 Mr. Snowflake you are a brilliant creator. Keep it up sir.
Will do boss x
I feel so horrible for her. I had anorexia in the past and its not something I would wish on even my worst enemy. She is so beautiful and i trully wish she can get out of the hell of an addiction she has
Glad to hear it’s in your past and not present x
Wow this is beautifully put together. You are a true documentarian. Well done!!
Even the audio is amazing!
Parents please start parenting your kids! Don’t just give them a phone or tablet and let them sit in front of it all day. Pay attention to what they are watching. There’s no way I believe that Eugenia is causing others to have an ED. It all starts at home and if you play a role in your child’s life and actually TALK to them and LISTEN to them then you can’t blame someone else for their issues
Exactly 👍🏼
That’s not how mental development works. If they wouldn’t have seen her there’s a high likelihood they wouldn’t have developed an ED. Parents need to monitor what their children consume but she was a direct factor in their EDs forming.
@@capybaracake i dont agree and thats my opinion. maybe these kids are just different because 10/11 year old me would not look at her and want to be or look like eugenia no way
@@PrettiPetty24developing an ED is a complex mixture of different factors...Just because you would have had no inclination to develop one from seeing her does not mean that children more vulnerable to it wouldn't...I have watched a lot of these types of videos and there are ALWAYS parents who are distraught bc their daughter developed an ED after watching her channel...It does happen.
@@capybaracake What in the world is the take here? That Eugenia should be hidden behind a blanket out in the real world as well, because just seeing her could cause kids to develop EDs? What about overweight people? Should we block everyone who isn't perfectly fit from walking outside or being on television? I mean, I don't know a ton about the girl, but she says she never tries to encourage people to look like her, unlike overweight people in the body positivity/fat acceptance space. So, what should she do? Not be allowed to exist in view of others?
Seriously, I'm so confused by all of these takes.
It's so sad she describes her relationship with her mom as "close." Deborah is her abuser.
unfortunately it's very hard to differentiate when it's all you've ever known. many people only realize how bad their parents are at parenting, when they have their own kids, myself included
I don’t believe her mother is her abuser ! It’s very hard fora parent with a child with this disorder
@rinatenitska i have realized when I met my parents in law. How they treat their son and, well, me, is so different from how my parents treat me.
@@lisakemp7352her mother enables her disorder and has Eugenia convinced that if she ever attempts to live separately from her that she will have a heart attack. That is emotional abuse. Eugenia is almost thirty years old and her mother has manipulated her into thinking they both cannot survive without the other.
I don't agree with that.Eugenia is an adult and does have friends and contacts over the world.She chooses to stay close to her mum.,Who has always been there for her unlike peers that abused her
That is one dysfunctional family. Control. Homeschool. Locks on the doors. Secrets.
Dodgy
The people that bully Eugenia are vile. We're watching this girl in a death spiral and we need to show the kind of compassion that you have. Thank you for your videos.
You’re welcome x
She deserves bullying for being a annoying narcissist
I don’t watch her nor do I know much, but what it seems from reading comments, many who have supported her over the years have lost compassion bc she has taken advantage of their support and concern for her. She manipulates and gaslights her audience, and they’re fed up with it. I’m not saying who’s right or wrong for the amount of compassion one holds, but I do see both sides and it’s heartbreaking to see many of her supporters be angry bc they literally cannot help her. Anger comes from fear and pain, and her viewers seem to put up walls and cut off caring about her to protect themselves from being hurt that she’s dying. Just my observations.
Physical appearance aside, she protected a predator in her community, she’s friends with people like Jeffree star and Shane Dawson. The majority of her audience is younger and she keeps putting out content that’s dangerous. I don’t think she should be “bullied” but she doesn’t get a pass because she’s mentally ill
that might have been the case 6+ years ago, but recent Eugenia is as much of a predator as she is a victim.
One comment: those people didnt develop anorexia from watching Eugenia- they were mentally ill before.
yeah that clare girl gave me very creepy vibes
It honestly looks like plain bullying. Eugenia doesn't cause anorexia, these kids should be off the internet.
They are more predisposed and vulnerable.
Right, i understand seeing someone like Eugenia as a trigger that set ur anorexia in motion, i mean obviously it has to start somewhere , but anorexia was always there dormant and waiting. Something so debilitating and harmful can’t be done PURELY because of shallow reasons like “I wanna look like her”
@@ipgw I get what you're saying but anorexia doesn't just lay "dormant" in anyone. It's not a physical disease, it's a mental disease. Although I agree that simply seeing a picture of Eugenia isn't going to give someone anorexia, after a life time of being conditioned by toxic beauty standards, a picture of Eugenia COULD be what pushes someone over the edge and make them decide to try and starve themselves.
I remember the Thinspo era on Tumblr. Girls DO look at pictures of Eugenia and think "I want to look just like her!" and they ARE willing to starve themselves to achieve it
I can relate to her connection to her grandmother, my grandmother was an island of love and safety, I was devasted when she passed, I lost an important connection when almost no one else was looking out for me.
I can imagine she feels a deep disconnect without her presence when her mom is like that.
My mom is similar to deb, so i really feel for Eugenia on this, every minor little thing was the end of the world and she would freak out, blame me, slam stuff and scream, be all twitchy. For EVERY MINOR THING. Except now I'm the opposite of Eugenia and struggle with binge eating disorder since i was a kid, I'm 33 and have had this problem since i was 12
Poor girl, I can't imagine how much the bullying damaged her. She's honestly beautiful, I'd guess that the bullies were jealous. I hope she can get better.
This breaks my heart.💔I don't think this poor girl is going to be with us much longer.😢💔😭You did an AMAZING job with this video.😁You are a superb RUclips creator.🤩
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This was so good. I love that you connected her little speech about butterflies to the blue butterfly symbol the pro-anas use. It really goes to show just how much her illness IS her identity. And i appreciate that you showed those clips of Chip, theyre online already and the way she acts so defensive and protective of him isnt how the internet works, once videos are online people can do what they want with them. She doesnt care to protect the little girls who are going to see her videos and contract her social contagion. Shes proud of herself, the blue butterfly is them bragging about their achievement. Shes happy to be the best at her illness, the face of an***xia. Its crazy that we cant even say the word, but she can show off her bones and atrophied muscles and not be required to age restrict. If she hadnt been pulled out of school she probably would have gotten over this, but instead she built her little cocoon online where she could exist in a permanent suspension where she never grew up and out of this, never developed an adult mind or body. Its sad, but its wrong for her to influence young girls and she absolutely does influence young people. Everyone knows it. I had friends in high school who had pictures of her printed out for thinspo they kept in their binders/lockers. Truly despicable. Instead of growing into an adult, she bypassed all of the healthy stages of maturity and instead has the body of a very old person, im sure osteoporosis and arthritis are the least of her health concerns.
Beautiful editing, btw! I miss your buttery voice, but for these serious topics i can see why youve chosen to have the subjects narrate their own lives. This way its not like were taking your conclusion from the footage, we're drawing our own based on what theyve put out.
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I realized, along the butterfly analogy, that Eugenia's eye make up is a symbol of a blue butterfly: shades of blue...and an eyeliner wing. So...blue wings.
This is put together so beautifully. I can see you really took your time and care about the subject matter. You never know maybe one day Eugenia may see this and it may touch her enough to wanna seek help. Doubt it but never say never.
Yeah I hope but I doubt it. Took a while to research this to get it right. Happy with final product
@@MrSnowflakeThe result speaks volumes. It's beautiful, tragic and very sad at the same time. Very well done. 🙏🏻
@@MrSnowflakeHappy with the final product??
You guys that take on the youngish obese woman, the youngish anorexic woman then freakish, broken girl women. Your ART is ugly. You and your bastard mostly male reaction channellers are like pimps. You make your dirty money from these people's embarrassment. You're a taker, buddy. A user. I've heard your mockery, yiu and yiurEnglish mates laughing at Ms Reid's gaffes. Are you laughing at Eugenia's ribs? You're just another profiteer sipping at the dirty end of suffering. What's next??? Children?😊
I was anorexic when I was a teenager. What is scary about it is that in my experience it did feel like something taking over me. It is scary. Luckily I recovered after about 2 years. I have read though that it can trigger other issues like substance abuse which makes sense. I wish all with this condition and those close to them the best.
i had the same experience. i didnt have ana, my docs called it EDNOS. it like i wasn't myself. i dropped 90 lbs in 3ish months. as a 5'8 female went from 218 lbs to 130ish. my nails turned orange, i got heart palpitations from purging, etc. after the inital 3 months it lingered for about 2 years but i wasnt as strict about it
i still have OCD-ish eating issues where i will get anxious and avoid foods or only eat a certain thing for a while.
it almost certainly wouldn't have happened if i didnt see other people doing it in places like myproana and the tumblr thinspo community. if i never stumbled across that in my vulnerable years, i probably would have a way healthier relationship with food. i hope eugenia can get over it but she seems beyond help and her enabler mother probably wont change any thing, even if she has a major health scare. sad situation
It is apparently a very common experience for teens with eating disorders. That makes sense since anorexia isn't who you are, but it's taking so much of your headspace. Good job on recovery!
thanks for sharing this, it really puts some things into perspective regarding my own recovery. Once I'd physically recovered from my ED I became a full blown alcoholic. I guess it was just exchanging one addiction for another, but it helps to know we're predisposed to these cycles and that I didn't mess up in some major way that's unique to me.
Yes. It’s linked to OCD and addiction. As well as dysmorphia, which is what you described. I hope it never comes back up for you. This is one where if it does, you need to go immediately to a medical doctor-if you get that weird feeling again, please do, and tell them about your previous issue. We need you here with us.♥️♥️♥️
Yes. It feels like you’re possessed in a way. It’s like the ed is active independently. Your personality starts to drain away bit by bit until there’s nothing left.
Her Mom is a MONSTER by contributing to this 1000% by enabling a toxic & dysfunctional enviornment/relationship and not doi g what a Mother should do:protect and take care of her daughter. Her DAD IS 100% UNINVOLVED and IGNORES the aituation. They both are to blqme for not gettong her the help she should of gotten as a MINOR!!! Her Mom clearly has a alcohol or drug problem as evidenced by Jadedness video she made. This WHOLE FAMILY NEEDS HELP! I can only wonder is Chip ok?!?!?!
I think her mother has given up trying to help her. I bet Eugenia is super manipulative as well.
and tbh since eugenia is under her mother's roof, her mother is responsible for her wellbeing. if something happens to her, she cant really say "i did all i can" because from what we can tell that's not even true. how can her mom defend her flying around the countrty with eugenia if she's fine? what's her reason?
@@shurshetteyou cannot make adult children get help ! I have a niece and a friend in the same situation and it’s devastating their families
@@shurshetteHer mother is constantly telling her she doesn’t look after herself. Eugenia’s own words
@@lisakemp7352where has Eugenia said that? All ive seen is where she says, I know she eats, i know she takes care of herself. Shes just a skinny minnie."
I have an overweight mother who gave me anorexia. She drilled into me that being fat was not only awful but gross. She encourages me to stay underweight because gaining any kind of weight is just gaining fat. So i understand the dynamic that could be happening within that home.
Now that being said, her saying "I'm not sick I'm actually fine and just skinny" is the problematic behavior in question. She isn't healthy and the fact that she tells her audience that she is, is an issue. It's why so many want her off the internet. Someone already tried to get her help and she hated it so much that she unfriended that person and there's no way she'll ever let it happen again. She doesn't even drink water unless her fans BEG and even then she most likely won't.
To the people in the comments saying that people are being too harsh on her, just you wait. She's not some innocent lil girl, she's 30 years old and killing herself.
My obese family aided in my ED development the opposite I was force fed as a child, my dad would buy me full Big Mac meals or make me a plate for the size of his 400lb self and hit/ berate me if I didn’t finish it. myself and entire family were obese and seeing my dad over 400lbs pretty much bedbound, having multiple heart attacks &developing diabetes gave me the intense fear of getting so fat dr’s will have to lift me out of my bed with a crane. I lost over 80lbs in like 6mo in my teens, in turn developing SEVERE complications. I broke my back, damaged my immune system, I’m constantly sick or have skin, ear throat infections, self harm, unalive attempts, etc I’m 26 and have been in a constant “recovery” and relapse cycle since my early teens. I honestly can’t see an end to this disease unless it’s the end of my life.
Her mom wouldn’t let her get help, it’s not entirely on her.
I had anorexia for 16 yrs, I've been well about 24 yrs now.
Bitching at her, accusing her, whatever tf you're getting at, will only drive her deeper into the illness!
You seem to be a finger pointer. I can assure you that your mother didn't "give you" an eating disorder. That's all you. It's a choice you made and it got away from you.
@@maloulaval I'm sorry but she's a grown women. Yes she's been manipulated by her mother into believing that if she leaves her mother that she will have a heart attack, but she's also clearly stated that she never wants to go back to a rehab center because of the way it made her feel.
BS
One thing that REALLY bothers me on youtube, is how much shes promoted.
If i search ANYTHING up, like a crochet tutorial, she will show up on a short. WHY??
I just had this conversation with someone.
I understand Clare is hurt but wanting to sue EC is fucking nuts 😂
Brilliant mini doco! Since it is made entirely from archival material, it's very powerful and invites viewers to make up their own minds. Fantastic compilation of relevant clips, exposing how the condition gradually consumes her. Part 3 should show her further descent into the world of the disease.
Her mother reminds me of DeeDee blanchard alot. When Eugenia passes, I will be tuning in for the Netflix doc.
Gotta sat it. If Eugenia triggers ed in you then YOU need to take control of what’s going on with you. Do some soul searching and ask if you have a problem. People without ed don’t see her and have the desire to look like that. I’m a cancer patient and lost lots of weight I can’t seem to put back on, and I hate it. I hate looking to thin or sickly. If she triggers you, you are going thru something mentally you need to address. Because the next girl you see as thin as Eugina will do the same. Just because Eugina lives her life in a way you don’t like doesn’t mean she should be dehumanized or deplatformed. I’m so sorry she’s NOT influencing ANY young kids who aren’t already struggling with ed! Definitely no more than body mods and unhealthy amounts of plastic surgery or unhealthy parting to the point of death is pushed in other communities right here on RUclips. I’m also a former addict, if I watched the ip2 streaming community I’d be triggered af quick. But I don’t think they should be deplatformed for it. It’s THEIR LIFE and if they wanna live it in a way that makes ME feel triggered it’s my responsibility to not watch or engage but also to own my own reasons for being triggered by it and address them. If I was taking cancer treatment, and I just wanted to quit and livestream the last of my life that’s my decision because it’s my life. She’s not “ harming children “ or anything that’s dramatic af. Until y’all produce some evidence of her directly saying “ yeah you should be as thin as I am, being thin and sick like this is awesome!” She’s not harming anyone anymore then any other influencer who pushes unhealthy borderline self destructive behavior ( Tanna, Trisha, Jeffree, Jake and Logan, Ice Posiden, ect). You did an awesome job on this video! None of this comment is aimed towards you cause you killed it and I’ll definitely be checking out part 2. I can’t help but feel like Keem was kinda right when he said “ sue her for being to skinny “, because that girl sounds ridiculous. If you’re this mad at someone for YOUR ed, or you really feel your so easily influenced that just watching her gave you all your ed issues and you had none of them before watching her, I think you are just projecting a ton of anger and blame on her and bottom line is, that will never make YOU get well. She’s suffering from an ed while also just trying to do the small things that make her happy ( livestream, try on new cloths ect) and people wanna act like she’s out her promoting anorexia. She’s not! If I’m an addict and I exist online that doesn’t mean I promote doing drugs or being addicted. It simply means I want to be online and I suffer from mental illness. Doesn’t mean I have bad intentions or anything. I don’t think people consider that ever. All she’s really got is being online. If anything she’s an example of what can happen when you let that mental illness rule your life. Anyone who watches her and feels anything like they want to be like her need to get help for themselves asap because people who don’t have ed don’t look at her and see something they want to emulate.
I am surprised your comment is still up. Mine keeps being deleted: "Is it that time of the month again? Where creators exploit Eugenia for profit under the guise of "concern." Her short life is constantly being made miserable all for the sinister crime of visibly existing with a mental illness. What a monster. If only we could lock her away in a mental ward and strip her of her autonomy to make the commenters feeling better about their own mental illnesses."
Kids nowadays won't take reason for their own media consumption and demand the producer or media censors themselves or deletes their content. I see it all the time.
Thanks Mr. Snow for including the testimonials of those brave kids talking about how Eugenia influenced them. I hope they're all doing much better these days. Great video, as always.
Funny I interpreted it not as brave but as an attempt to blame someone else for their own disorders. They were drawn to her because they already had the urge within themselves. No healthy person sees someone that sick and thinks “I wish I looked like that.” Those people are just as sick but maybe more harmful than Eugenia ever could be as they are actively trying to destroy her source of income while she tries to spread kindness.
Just imagine if their own parents had been giving them more attention and been a better influence on them? instead of relying on the Internet and placing the blame on a mentally unwell Eugeina?
eugenia didnt intend to, but it isnt hard to imagine that seeing videos of her body wouldnt make someone who was already struggling with ed make them feel even worse about themselevs@@illumindonnaughty
@@illumindonnaughty it could just as easily be that they do have parents who gave them plenty of attention and yet still their children developed an ED.
@@illumindonnaughtylook how involved Eugenia’s mom was and what happened to her. *Yes* parents need to monitor the media their children consume to make sure it isn’t harmful, but there is a balance.
I can’t imagine how exhausted she must be all the time. I know whenever I relapse with my ed, I can’t handle the abuse I was putting my body through when I first developed it at 12. Trying to treat my body that way now will cause me the worst brain fog, dizziness and full body pain. I can’t imagine how she must feel on the day to day after being sick for so long. There’s no way she’s comfortable. Just sitting down, sleeping, getting ready or just existing must be a little painful
Her soul, personality, the way she acted n looked at things n her physcal features seemed so beautiful
Amazing job as always. Crazy how I saw the first clips in this episode and thought EC looks so much healthier there...speaks to how grim it's gotten since
Yeah awful now sadly x
WOW! This is SOO incredibly well done! Thank you for taking the time to make such a beautiful documentary.
People blaming Eugenia for their eating disorder because Eugenia was so “beautiful” and “thin” in their eyes is like people blaming women for getting r8ped because of what they’re wearing. I don’t buy it that she caused anybody’s EDs or needs to hide herself from the world bc someone might be drawn to her appearance. It’s not her responsibility to be everyone’s positive role model or protect other people’s kids from her “influence.” And Clare is a sad little clout chaser who should focus on her ED/mental issues instead of obsessing over Eugenia all day long. Edit to add: I doin’t think there’s hope left for Eugenia to come back from this, but I truly wish for her to get help and live some semblance of a life that isn’t just suffering.
That analogy is so flawed I don't even know where to begin.
honestly I grew up with eating disorder people in my life, and I never turn out this way...I think she is sus, I think there more to this story,,
This illness DOES often perpetuate itself socially...That is why "pro ana" communities exist! Not the same at all as blaming someone for being assaulted...
You put out such great quality documentaries so quickly, I’m obsessed!!
Obsess away x
@@MrSnowflake I don't know if it's because of your ALR doc series or the fact that she uses the word obsess a lot, but I first thought you said "Obese away" lol... I agree though. Your documentaries are fantastic!
Random thought: The fact that RUclips censors people from even saying, "eating disorder" when they're telling their stories in trying to help others from going down that path, is INSANE.
Once again your editing is only evolving in the best way. Thank you ❤❤❤❤
Aw thanks. Nice getting slowly better over the years
18:25 + - Sir?!!!
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Your technique is so unique and underrated and so well done! I cannot wait for part 2! Thank you!!
The stuff with her family hating being filmed and her constantly saying “it’s [the camera] turned!” Is so unsettling
I wish nothing more than for her to get well and see how beautiful her soul actually is
Great, as usual.
I was oblivious and ignorant of the blue butterfly thing….what was running through my head from the start tho was about the species of moth that emerges from cocoon without a mouth. Interesting she used the word “cocoon” over “crysalis”, or maybe I’m just a former first grade teacher who did a unit on butterflies.
I love that you do these.
I only became aware of the blue butterfly thing from watching other videos about Eugenia.
luna moths
@@fawn2911 thank you.. come to think of it, all that flashy decoration, Luna moths don’t need anything else. A mouth would be superfluous.
Her mother has some form of munchausen it seems.... shes kept euginia sick and kept her in a bubble so that shes dependent on her for absolutely everything...now euginia is lost wanting to remain a little girl forever..this is a main trigger for anorexia i understand the ins and outs of it having had both anorexia and bulima complexities... Im surprised euginia hasnt been sectioned as shes a danger to herself .😢
I’m glad you decided to stick with your “no narration” style for this series. Eugenia is a controversial figure, and I’m sure there’s a lot you want to say, but the sad truth is she doesn’t have much time left in this world, so that was definitely the more respectful choice, as many people will probably watch this posthumously.
Well worded - this video managers to say soooo much more more than so many other vids I have seen on Eugenia.
The first time i judged my body was in like 5th grade. I looked at myself in the mirror and thought "hey, i have a belly. That doesnt look good". And the downward spiral started. Along with bullying and boys always reminding me im ugly and indesirable, at 17 years old i was convinced i would never find love. I dont have anorexia, but i developed BPD, an anxiety disorder and ocd tendencies. I hate my body and i wonder how i escaped anorexia. I often worry about calories and suffer over not fitting in older clothes. I cant imagine her pain, and even though im not making excuses for her behavior and refusal to change, i can't help but hurt for her.
I am so sorry things have been unfair and hard for you. The fact you can still have empathy for those struggling too shows no one has crushed your soul yet. it's beautiful and valid. much love and support.
you are beautiful. you compassion and empathy, that's beautiful.
i know one thing that helped me was to remember that my body is a vessel. it's like a car for my mind to get around in. and i can't live my life, i can't go to concerts and do my job and spend time with loved ones or cuddle my kitty if the vessel i'm in (my body) is too weak to do those things.
i have a lot of weird issues with food, some sensory issues and stuff, and sometimes eating feels more like a chore than anything else. i just don't want to. but i do anyway, because i have to. i have to put gas in the tank and take care of this body, because i only have one. and i need it to be healthy so that i can go do the things i want to do and experience the joy and beauty of the world.
your body's size doesn't matter. what matters is what you can USE that body for: things like volunteering and helping people, rescuing animals, or even fun stuff just for yourself: going on a hike and breathing in the fresh air and feeling the sun on your face, playing instruments and making music that fills your heart with joy, whatever it is you love.
your body is just a vessel, it doesn't have to be perfect for it to function. and what matters isn't the vessel or your body itself. what matters is the PERSON inside that vessel, the mind and heart inside that vessel and all the amazing things you can do with that mind and that beautiful, kind, compassionate heart.
i dunno if trying to think like that will help you, but i know ti really helped me to shift my thinking. it helped me stop comparing my body to other people's, helped me stop feeling insecure and unattractive because i'm flat as a door. it just helped me find peace with my body to think of it as the vessel for my mind and heart and soul, and not something i need to fix or perfect or work on.
Same here ,as a young teen I restricted food,felt chunky,sister was skinny.anxious around sexual matters became introverted.hospital,BPD diagnosis.I am 57 and have recently had ADHD diagnosis .mum was always dieting and no PDA between parents or cuddles from my parents.Its all a mine field maturing into an adult,just like a tree.Ive got a wonky crooked pear tree that lies almost horizontal,as it was planted too close to an over shadowing tree.It looks awkward and deformed but it produces some beautiful pears.
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Great job at this part 1. Very eye opening and well done. Can’t wait to see part 2!!!! 🙏
What is sad is she doesn't even realize how beautiful is actually is.
Wow. The small RUclipsrs you featured who were speaking out about how EC affected their mental health is absolutely staggering. Thank you for sharing those. Honestly snowflake you’re brilliant at what you do!!
Goes to show how neglected those kids are. Not only they had unmonitored unlimited internet access but they also weren't taught any form of self preservation nor self love.
@@tecat3 This is a good point. There's definitely nurture, and nature involved.
I love this video ❤ it is so tragically sad which is perfect for this case 😢 it is beyond horrible to watch someone slowly waste away, especially when you see just how kind hearted she was before she started to decline at a much faster rate than she was beforehand. Seeing her with her grandmother for instance honestly brought a tear to my eye, just gave off a very kind soul type of vibe. I relate a lot to her before she was first 5150'd, i have anorexia and have had since late childhood, mine isnt anorexia nervosa though (the one that makes you want to be skinny) it is just anorexia due to me having a physical health condition that makes eating very painful at times, I have had all of my large bowel removed and some of my small bowel too during surgeries for my crohns disease (have had 10 major surgeries for that so far) As a kid I developed an aversion almost to food because it hurt me. And now im an adult my body is still conditioned to survive on very tiny amounts- I don't feel faint or sick or grumpy if i dont eat, even my blood tests come back as semi normal when im clearly always underweight and barely consuming anything- it is beyond crazy what the human body can survive on! But thats it its just surviving, im not thriving thats for certain 😅 as an nhs patient I have not had anything done to help with this anorexia, I have just started therapy though so I am hoping to reprogram my body when it comes to food, I know it will never just go away fully coz im 30 now and it has been going on for 20 years but I want any change that is positive ❤ 30s and 40s is the age longterm anorexic people tend to start dropping like flies and that is terrifying to me, I have always had a gut instinct that it'll be my heart that gives out eventually not my other health issues, I hope I am wrong and am doing everything I can think of to lessen the chance of that ❤
its honestly sad shes so chronically online and has been since highschool, but she has no need to go out in the real world since she's set for life from all her online stuff. she'll just never change i think
Honestly I think she needs to be assessed for autism. Anorexia is a common comorbidity.
I really hope Eugenia sees this. This is such an honest and tender reflection of what’s going on with her. She’s such a genuine and kind person and she doesn’t deserve all the negativity she’s compulsively giving herself. All we want for her is for her to be comfortable and happy. It’s so saddening to see how we can rob ourselves of that opportunity. Thank you for portraying her story in such a nuanced way
Thank you for doing this series. Awareness is so important ❤
This is rough.. I never watched her stuff but saw when people would use her to boost their own channels (creeps like Onion and Shane Dawson). I was with Ana as a teenager and most of came from wanting to be able to control SOMEthing in all the chaos around me at all times, even if it was harmful it was a battle I could fight intentionally when everything else was so out of my depth to manage at the time. I have fully recovered and health is very important to me. Those who have been through it knows it’s a psychological battle that manifests physically. Those that don’t think it’s for the benefit of being thin to other people. When I got a lot of attention while being skinny it scared me and made me feel like a target; it wasn’t the goal.
This poor girl -- a distant father, an immature mother who feeds off her daughter's "fame" for being starved to death, No direction, no one to save her. I am an ex-nurse who has cared for anorexics and the resounding theme is "perfectionism" - trying to "be the best" - so dangerous and hungry for Love. So sad.
Her denial is part of the disorder, but her mom telling the audience that Eugenia is fine just angers me.
Denial is part of the disorder so I’m
Never ever expecting her to realise what’s happening
Im shocked mr snowflake can pump out these long videos in such a short time!
If there’s one thing I can do is pump
Ehhh, i imagine it's a lot easier when all he has to do is line up clips, and throw in the sad piano music.
Definitely prefer his narrated series
@nignamedmutt7270 yeah, I bet its a right piece of the proverbial 🙄
@@nignamedmutt7270still a lot of work going through them all and putting them in order to tell a cohesive story
@@nignamedmutt7270it’s why the ALR episodes take longer to come out
I'm going to assume her first crush was Jack Skellington and some wires got twisted in her head
You can't tell me she's not talking about it when she's constantly acknowledging the comments or body checking on camera. She's not just peacefully existing online. She's definitely contributing.
As someone whos suffering from the same disorder, I find it laughable thay she gets add revenues and you can even say the Ana word. I hope this video reach some people as hard as it did me. You present things in such a way that I cant** only broke down and cry. Gotta go, I have a meal to eat. ❤
I hope things will improve for you, I had anorexia in the past and I promise there is hope
I know this will sound cliché but start exercising and having a healthy exercise plan.... I know it's a pain in the butt starting out. It takes true dedication but I promise if you put just a single month of dedication with a workout plan it will completely change your life in the most positive of ways. The body craves positive attention and when you start treating the body right the body will literally tell you exactly what it wants. You'll start getting the best REM sleep in your life and you'll actually wake up feeling refreshed and ready for the new day.... I'm telling you, just 1 month is all it takes and the dedication will become habit and you'll start craving treating the body right! You only get this one life, you deserve to make it the best life possible! Any anxiety, depression, negative cravings and bad habits will be washed away. DO IT! YOU DESERVE IT!
@@TerminalM193 i mean, yeah, exercise is healthy, but maybe not the best advice for someone suffering with an ED. should probably focus on overcoming the disordered thoughts and making peace with eating normally first. THEN you can't get into exercise and living a generally healthy lifestyle overall. but first you have to get healthy. and if you're fighting an ED, the last thing you need is to become as addicted to working out as you are to restricting, because that can be just as damaging.
keep fighting. i know it' so hard, but if you keep fighting, i promise one day you can get to a place where food doesn't control your life or consume your thoughts anymore. you can get to a place where the kind of thing that takes up space in your head is your excitement and anticipation to finally go to this concert and see this band you love. where instead of obsessing over calories, you're obsessing about the new album that just dropped and picking out exactly what you're gonna wear to the concert, and writing the band a note to tell them how much their music has helped you, and looking at their merch on their website so you can pick out a shir to buy. (music is my thing, obviously, lol)
that's just a personal example, cuz i love music. but my point is that if you fight for recovery, you can get to a place where the disorder doesn't own you anymore. and then instead, you have all this free room in your head to think about other stuff you actually like. you have time to do things you want to do for fun, and you don't have to always be anxious about people seeing you or trying to hide things and pretend or lie about what's going on. you can just exist and spend you energy pursuing whatever it is you love instead.
i only say this, cuz i know it can be hard to picture feeling or being any other way when that's what you're used to. so it can be hard to imagine what "better" even means when people say it gets better. but that's what better means. it means freedom to do other things, and to have other thoughts, ones that don't make you feel crappy or fill you with anxiety. and yeah, it can be a struggle to get there, but i promise it's worth it. YOU are worth it.
and remember, it's about progress, not perfection. it's okay to have hard days or to struggle. that's normal. just as long as you don't give up and you keep fighting those thoughts when they get nasty, eventually you'll get to a place where the fighting gets easier to do. and then you'll get to a place where it's not a fight anymore. just keep trying, even if you slip up. because all that matters is that you keep going
@@bottomofastairwell Proper exercise will make the body crave sustenance for fuel. There's no exercise plan in this world that also doesn't include a specific diet whether it be high calorie, low or in between. With a dedicated exercise plan of even the most simple of starting points the body will literally make you crave what it needs to continue growing and evolving all the way from burning fat, trying to put on weight through both fat and muscle or just strict muscle growth. As a physical therapist I've come across all shapes and sizes in both appearances and mental capacity. Those of my patients with debilitating mental illnesses or negative attitude that decide to actually take on my challenge of just 1 month of true dedication have completely turned their lives around for the better, both mentally and physically. Of course it's not a full proof plan and it's easy to slip through the cracks on many different aspects of the plan it's still gets easier and easier the closer you get to the end of that month and everything becomes human habit.... Humans are creatures of habit after all.
I can’t even put into words how badly I want to see her success story, I want to see her win. I know I’m not the only one but her “redemption arc” (for lack of a better explanation) would be so inspirational & probably legitimately life saving to some watching her & following in her footsteps. The only way I feel about her is sad. She has always seemed like such a light & it’s heartbreaking to watch her continue to dim because of the immense suffering. You did such a great job making her real, a real normal person suffering, in this video.
Dear god dude. Your rate of production is insane, quality too of course. Don't know how you do it.
So appreciate it. Geno has drawn out his doc on Chris Chan for years. So annoying.
How are you not working in Hollywood making millions.
You deserve to be
You are amazing and astonishing !❤
Unfortunately I’m too attractive for Hollywood
@@MrSnowflake❤❤
@@MrSnowflakeand too modest as well.
and better off for it@@MrSnowflake
@@MrSnowflake
Please steer clear of Hollyweird at all costs, Mr. Snowflake!!!! 😳
The fact that everyone in the family is overweight and she is the only one that is not. I recall her saying she hated it when people called her family fat.
Grandma wasn't overweight
@@limonabr Grandma is dead
That was one of the most well rendered and meticulously crafted creations I've probably watched in a decade. The symbolism of the monarch to the blue butterfly did not escape me. Your production is an utter masterpiece. I wish miss Eugenia could grasp her value. It is endlessly frustrating to watch her because she is being trafficked right in front of us. Rescue for her is extremely difficult because her living situation is her normal. She knows, and has never known a different life. Sure we could nab her and throw her in an institution for whatever period of time. She will not change because she has already built the foundation of her identity. I do not think she should be deplatformed because of her ED for multiple reasons. One, on mom's part, this is perhaps Munchausen by Proxy. Two, this is how Eugenia identifies. She intends no harm. Her content validates her and placates scary mom. Three, lovely girl has no life skills other than creating content. So what are the options? We can take her source of income, remove her from mom, and she will be left without shelter and any life skills. She needs real friends. However, my instinct tells me mom edges them out. She seems like a very lovely person. What we are all witnessing is a crime and a travesty. Mom should be incarcerated but that would destroy Eugenia; she naturally loves her mom. I wish I knew a solution. Her mother is exploiting her and the whole world is watching. Like I can't... All my love and best intentions go out to this young woman. She deserves better than social media slavery.
I know right? Her situation is very much giving mk ultra vibes and noone's talking about it.
I really enjoy the no-narration format, you let the subjects of the videos tell their own stories and it’s more effective that way.
This is really well done. I applaud your cinematography and storytelling.
Eugenia needs to realise that not intending to cause harm doesn’t absolve her or nullify the harm caused to her audience.
Absolutely blown away this was done so well. Thank you.❤
Aw bless you x
I like this new format. You didn't even need to say a word. Show don't tell at its finest. The message is more impactful when you let the subject speak for itself. You put a lot of work and thought into this and it shows.
This was so beautifully done! You said so much without saying a word. Beautiful in its own sad way. Beautiful & powerful.
Wow, how mean can people be?! 😢 Poor girl. She was so pretty and had so much potential. Very well spoken girl. So sad. 😢😢
She needs to be removed from the platform. It’s far past the point now. The children she’s affected in the early years are now ages 20-30 years old.
More children will become adults, and even more sociological-psychological data will be affirmed. This is not free speech. This is body checking and profiting from her spectacle. It is adult content.
Excellent editing btw
I’ve been waiting for you to start this one Snowflake, looking forward to watching
Hope you like
This feels like an episode of American horror story.