Rhombicosidodecahedron and she literally sings the final note on a cliff out of water. That’s an a iconic scene of her on that little ledge of the water
Lilo and Stitch... Leaving Lilo and Stich, the Franchise, to Die, was one of the biggest Mistakes they ever made. That's an objective fact, which you would know as such if you knew enough about the subject. But whatever, not being educated about this one thing aint a sin, i guess... or maybe it is, but that's not the point. THE POINT IS: This Franchise hadnt tired itself out, at all. So it should be Revived for Real. Countless People wait for it. Trust me, they do. We do.
Lilo and Stitch... Leaving Lilo and Stich, the Franchise, to Die, was one of the biggest Mistakes they ever made. That's an objective fact, which you would know as such if you knew enough about the subject. But whatever, not being educated about this one thing aint a sin, i guess... or maybe it is, but that's not the point. THE POINT IS: This Franchise hadnt tired itself out, at all. So it should be Revived for Real. Countless People wait for it. Trust me, they do. We do.
I feel like Princess and the Frog was a callback to the Disney Renaissance. It fits right in with the other films from that era. While The Emperor's New Groove is definitely in my top 5 Disney movies, ever since I was a kid, my heart has belonged to The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
@@d20_dave53 I dont remember that well of when princess and the frog came out but I remember a lot of marketing was done saying it had people who helped create lion king
@@bigstunna2049 Well, it didn't work. Whenever I mentioned the movie to people around the time it came out, the response was almost always that they hadn't even heard of it.
@@d20_dave53 I think that's more of a generation thing maybe. I was born in 2000 and everyone I know my age and 5 years up knows about princess and the frog
@@bigstunna2049 Perhaps, but to be frank, if kids are the only ones who know about a Disney movie, that Disney movie is automatically a commercial failure. Disney movies that bring in huge box office numbers are the ones that people of all ages are talking about and want to see.
You forget to mention Howard Ashman, he is the one that came with the idea of do the music in a Broadway style and was the one who wrote some of the most important songs, also he was the one who brought in Alan Menken, he is one of the most important parts of why the Renaissance era worked.
Jay: His name is Franklin. Me: That doesn't sound right, but you've probably seen this movie more recently than I have, so I'll trust you. Jay: His name is actually Cody. Me: I shouldn't have trusted you.
I was so confused then I thought it was the sleep depravation, then betrayal. But honestly, Emperors New Groove, Treasure Planet, and Atlantis are some of my favorite movies.
Carly Grass agreed. Atlantis is by far the most underrated Disney movie. Not the greatest of all time, but so much better than how little it’s remembered
When I was little for some reason I thought his name was “Colby” like the cheese. I also thought Andy from Toy Story was named Jesse (Toy Story 2 made me even more confused) and Alvin was the name of the guy in Alvin and the Chipmunks
I miss them too. In fact, for most of animation's history, 2D, or traditional animation was the dominant form of animation until the late 1990s or early 2000s. I wish they'd at least try releasing a few 2D animated films to take advantage of the new technologies that could make very beautiful 2D animation. :)
Yes, they do deserve more recognition. They aren't obscure, but having them acknowledged to some mainstream degree would be great for many others to discover those films, especially Emperor's New Groove. :)
Ok but who else wants to see them do a video about The Hunchback of Notre Dame being completely underrated and not talked about enough. Because it’s amazing!
I cant get over the fact that he thinks we havent seen or even heard of movies like Fun and Fancy free I use to watch that all the time and I have heard about Ichabod and mister toad
So we have the Golden age Silver age DARK AGE Renaissance And now the Live action age WHERE IT FEELS LIKE EVERY DISNEY MOVIE EVER WILL BE LIVE ACTIONIFIED
After the Renaissance there was this weird phase Disney went through known as the Experimental Phase, and then there was the Revival Age with The Princess and The Frog , Tangeld, Frozen, Big Hero 6, etc. Now they've really lost touch with all these remakes unfortunately
@Hilari Parsons the phase stuff from what I heard only includes stuff from the Disney animated canon. Which excludes the live action remakes/reboots/sequels. The Disney revival’s most recent film was Ralph breaks the internet.
Indeed, I'm proud of them for making this video too. The Renaissance movies are indeed very famous, but not many people know the work and behind-the-scenes information behind the Disney Renaissance.
Lilo and Stitch... Leaving Lilo and Stich, the Franchise, to Die, was one of the biggest Mistakes they ever made. That's an objective fact, which you would know as such if you knew enough about the subject. But whatever, not being educated about this one thing aint a sin, i guess... or maybe it is, but that's not the point. THE POINT IS: This Franchise hadnt tired itself out, at all. So it should be Revived for Real. Countless People wait for it. Trust me, they do. We do.
The Hunchback of Norte Dame is such a beautiful movie and it’s so underrated... it might be darker than a lot of the others from the renaissance but it’s so much more developed and really deserves more love than it gets. It would be interesting to learn about the history of the movie, why it’s so much darker (wasn’t it at a time when they were adopting classic novels such as Treasure Island?) and why it didn’t do well. No matter what, it’s under appreciated
"We can all agree The Emperor's New Groove is the best Disney movie of all time, right? right. Right?..." (Starts laughing, thinking "you know it!" and absentmindedly thumbs up the screen.) "..Right!" (Jay Thumbs up the camera) WHAT?!
16:49 The man besides him is the true disney legend. Mad respect for Howard! Disney always had "I want" songs since Snow White but only after The Little Mermaid and "Part of Your World" that it has been the formula ever since, thanks to Howard Ashman. The little mermaid, beauty and the beast and Aladdin's songs was written by Howard Ashman. Alan Menken is the one who composed the music. It's a shame that you're explaining about disney renaissance but you dont even mention Howard. Sadly that just few of disney fans that recognized and talked about him. He was literally the reason why disney is still exist now. Howard Ashman is a legendary lyricist who made Disney rises from its downfall and started the renaissance era of Disney, who recently returned from his huge career in musical broadway theater world that time. He is the one who directing Jodi Benson to sing Part of Your World. We all know that the original Part of Your World will always be the best "I Want" song in the entire disney universe. Not just because the nostalgia vibe but also Jodi Benson was really well and carefully directed by Howard Ashman, that even her breaths, stress and pause on each syllable are really well and gently cared for. When he directed Jodi, he always said "don't focus to the song, now you're telling a story". Howard wasn't focusing of the song and what makes the song sounds good or what makes it a song but how it tells a story. That's why there are many imperfections in the song, because it's the main part of it. An important part of maintaining that type of reserved passion is also that Part of Your World does not change key. In the worlds of pop music and musical theater finishing off with a key change is a helpful tool for bringing songs to a heightened emotional level and when covering Part of Your World, some people have done exactly that but I don't really think that a key change is necessary because that wasn't the intent of the songwriters. Howard said that intensity is better than enormous in this song. Howard said that intensity is better than enormous in this song. In fact I think that's staying in the same key the whole time is what makes it work so well having it push and pull and eventually bring Ariel back down to where she started tells a story effectively it even ends with the same motif it began with showing the audience the life that she wants but then going back to the life that she has. You can know that Howard Ashman was a great lyricist that he can even tell a story from a song. He also made the song dynamically switching from singing to talking and vice versa but the transition between them is still unnoticeable. And it didn't happen once, literally he directed every songs in those 3 films. If you really search on youtube, there are many videos that show behind the scene of the songs making. Like in beauty and the beast, he directed Paige O'Hara the same way too. Just search "Howard Ashman demo" on youtube, you can see how may songs he sung really containts much emotion than current disney songs. Also this is how Jodi's said to him ruclips.net/video/itaEZeJoqK0/видео.html Hard to believe that this beautiful song, Part of Your World, was almost cut from the movie. Jeffrey Katzenberg hated it and thought that it not only slowed down the movie but was boring. Howard fought hard to convince Katzenberg that this song belonged in the movie. And I'm glad he did. Disney renaissance is mostly known by their songs. Before the little mermaid project, Howard gathered the whole disney crew for a meeting. He tell about broadway history to all the crew and they all were impressed at him. Fun fact: Howard did much more than write the songs on this movie, he also brought on board Jodi Benson, directed her during this song, changed an English butler crab named Clarence to be a Jamaican crab named Sebastian, wrote the dialog in the scene where Triton gives Ariel her legs, and also produced the movie with John Musker. After The Little Mermaid released and became a biggest success in box office, Howard Ashman and Alan Menken was going to make movie called Aladdin. They've come up with several of ideas and musical numbers but Jeffrey Katzenberg then dragging them to a new project, Beauty and The Beast. Unfortunately, Ashman passed away 6 month before beauty and the beast was released and that movie was dedicated to him that even in the credit scene you can see that they gaved him credit to honor him because of how important he was. After beauty and the beast released, Jeffrey then took away all of Ashman's idea and script, almost 99% of them. But sadly some of the songs were removed in the final film He is the one who bring the new element broadway musical to the movie. This is the bright spot where everyone started to watching to animated movies again, previously no one was at all interested in animated movies. That's why every single disney movie now has a song in it. Disney keep using this formula until now (but not as effective as in the renaissance) because it's Howard's legacy. You can tell how they respect Ashman that even in Beauty and The Beast credit scene, there's a statement to honor him "To our friend, Howard, who gave a mermaid her voice and a beast his soul, we will be forever grateful." Howard Ashman 1950-1991 No wonder why The Little Mermaid be the first disney animated classic who get an oscar nomination. Also Beauty and the Beast is Disney's 30th animated motion picture, a dedication to Howard Ashman before he had passed away and the only classic movie to be nominated for an Academy Award for Best Animated Feature and Best Picture. He was the one who brought “I Want” song to another level! I Want song is literally every disney movies now. "In almost every musical ever written... the leading lady usually sits down on something... and sings about what she wants in life, and the audience falls in love with her and roots for her to get for the rest of the night." - Howard Ashman. He and his partner, Alan Menken, is the greatest duo that anyone have ever recognized in animated movie history. Also gain respect to Alan Menken, The little mermaid is actually his first score yet he can bring the magic with that scores. You can said that Part of Your World orchestra in the opening scene is the best choir you have ever seen and heard. Have you ever heard about the quote "There are three kinds of pianists: Jewish pianists, homosexual pianists, and bad pianists." -Vladimir Horowitz That quote actually referring to Ashman because he was Jewish and gay but still doesnt changed the fact that he really put his care and love the the movies It's hard not to hear the parallels to his own life. To be a gay man in that day and age (and to be literally dying of AIDS) and to wrestle with that kind of longing, that kind of loneliness, that kind of confusion, that kind of self-hatred... The message comes loud and clear even when it's not sung by a mermaid. Tremendous achievement, brilliant man. RIP. I can't imagine how much more greater and better Disney would have been doing today if this great man was still alive. It hurts to actually wonder. I greatly recommend you to watch these videos ruclips.net/video/QVHgdI8OyxA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/y04xePQaDgA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/sr3a69Ym5t8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/YtnsSnMIzZw/видео.html ruclips.net/video/JX0gZY9VKlM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/egCo5Qb_fs4/видео.html Also films like Waking Sleeping Beauty and Howard's documenter film in Disney+ could really help you to know more about him.
-J: "Show of hands, who new that kids name was Franklin?" -Me: Raises hand "Ha I new that! At least I have Disney knowledge to my name." -J: "Psyche! His name's Cody" -Me: "Alright Ima go jump off one of those rocks he was mentioning"
J: “Show of hands, who knew that kid’s name was Franklin?” Me: Wait, I thought his name was Cody? J: “You want to know how I can tell you’re lying? Because his name is Cody!” Me: But... I... okay...
Every time I watch The Rescuers Down Under, my mom reminds me that my brother and I used to watch it every single day when we were little, so often that she can still recognize the sound of the film from the other side of the house. I have no recollection of doing this, but I can see why, with its gorgeous animation and talking animal characters, that it would appeal to a very young child.
For people who are interested specifically in the musical aspect of the Disney renaissance, I would highly recommend checking out the Sideways video on what makes Disney music sound so distinctively "nostalgic."
@@itsalexflores ooooooor.... maybe you're following them since they had to have been there before you for you to see their comments... hmmmmmmmm. 🤔🤷♀️
Tarzan has (together with the Lion king) one of my all time favorite soundtracks from Disney movies. Phil Colins😍 And even the musical version is great. I can really recommend it🤔
Ummm name drop Alan menkin but what about his partner Howard Ashman who wrote the lyrics. They were a team and Ashman loved everything he did for Disney. A special sole who was taken too soon. Even on his death bed he was wearing a beauty and the beast jumper and writing songs on a small keyboard. RIP
Lilo and Stitch... Leaving Lilo and Stich, the Franchise, to Die, was one of the biggest Mistakes they ever made. That's an objective fact, which you would know as such if you knew enough about the subject. But whatever, not being educated about this one thing aint a sin, i guess... or maybe it is, but that's not the point. THE POINT IS: This Franchise hadnt tired itself out, at all. So it should be Revived for Real. Countless People wait for it. Trust me, they do. We do.
Love this video. My favorite Disney Renaissance movie is The Hunchback of Notre Dame. It has amazing music, characters you cheer for, and THE BEST Disney villain ever! (And the darkest Disney villain song too).
Lion King and Mulan! It's my fav time of the week! I love how the notification squad is always commenting right when the vid gets posted. SCB and J's vlog channel is literally my fav channel!
Totally agree on Rescuers and Great Mouse Detective. I'm not sure Emp is underrated - isn't it pretty well loved across the board? I'm shocked it didn't do well in the box office because it's an easy favorite for my family, my wife's, and pretty much anyone I've ever talked to. Maybe it has just become a cult hit in the interim.
As a graphic designer, the last snippet of the new intro with the red and black graphic of the new logo is amazing! And I see that is now your profile pic and I cannot be more on board for that! I also studied animation for a few years after I got my degree in graphic design... Your explanation of the Disney Renaissance is possibly the best of any professor that I had. Your ability to analyze visuals that drive the story is brilliant and so easy to understand. I don't think it's hard to realize that part of the Disney Renaissance was getting back to a musical foundation, but I loved listening to you talk about Menken and how he was truly a driving force in the Disney Renaissance. I've been a long time watcher (mostly for Harry Potter videos) but I think this was my favorite video you guys have put out 👍👍👍
Ah yeah but I get that a lot... But then I'm Aussie so there's a few things Americana pronounce weirdly. especially foreign words when it's clearly pronounced differently in the native country... And it isn't that hard to pronounce. Aluminum gets me every time. But yeah notre dame 🤣
The lyricist Howard Ashman and his music partner Menken were a huge part of the music quality that I believe drove the beginnings of renaissance. They were from broadway, famously having written the music for Little Shop of Horrors. Ashman wrote all the lyrics for Little Mermaid, Beauty And The Beast and Aladdin. After he sadly died from AIDS in 1991, the lyrical quality of the music in later films suffered. Menken’s contribution still held up a high standard but there was an edge that was missing, which is why those first 3 films stand apart.
I wouldn't necessarily say "The Emperor's New Groove" ended the Disney Renaissance. "Tarzan" is generally considered the last renaissance movie, and it breaks form by not having any characters sing. RUclipsr Sideways argued that this is why the renaissance ended. The first post-renaissance (or experimental) movies were "Fantasia 2000" and "Dinosaur." "Emperor's New Groove" was only the third in this series of films, so I wouldn't place any real blame on it for the end of the renaissance.
Awesome video! Would definitely recommend the viewers to watch “Waking Sleeping Beauty”. Also sad you didn’t include Howard Ashman, I feel like he was just as influential as Allen Menken especially to kickstart the renaissance. he wrote some of the most iconic lyrics of our favourite songs !!
I suppose I'm a statistical outlier, because I have definitely not only heard of but seen the Three Caballeros and Ichabod. The Aracuan Song is actually my ringtone. I think that may just be the original "Let It Go," since its just gibberish that goes on and on and on. . .
8:39 - 8:59 I NEVER considered this even as an adult. It feels like with all of these shots we're on a Disney Theme Park ride, going through the adventure and exploring the scope of the world as the characters see it. That kind of perspective is the brilliance of the Disney Renaissance personified.
Wow, two Disney Renaissance related videos in a span of a day. The first from Network1901 and now the SuperCarlinBrothers. 13:28-13:42 - And Couldn't agreed with you more ever since Wreck-It Ralph and ESPECIALLY Frozen, Disney has been shoehorning the Plot-Twist villain trope in EVERY Animated film these days where it just becomes repetitive, and overdone and you can thank Pixar's influence (mainly John Lasseter) for making Disney Animation Studios utilizing this in their films these last 6 years. Sometimes it works (e.g. King Candy) other times it becomes TOO obvious and cliched (e.g. Hans, Callaghan). 😑 I'm Hopeful, that future Disney animated films from Walt Disney Animation Studios will bring back the classic Disney villain from the Renaissance era, cause we haven't had a classic Disney villain since Dr. Facilier and Mother Gothel. Thank you so much. Hope you do one on the post-renaissance and the Disney Revival era soon. #DisneyRenaissance
I absolutely love Fun and Fancy Free! Pretty sure I came close to wearing out that VHS. That and Melody Time were part of my childhood, and I finally saw the other three movies later on! So yes indeed, take that, J XD
J:Franklin rescues this lovely Eagles from one Me:🤨 Franklin? J:Show of hands who knew that his name was actually franklin Me: ??? It’s not though J: yeah mnhm you know how I can tell your lying? Me who hasn’t seen the movie in like five years: cuz it’s Cody??? J: because it’s actually Cody! Me: 😄
I admit I've only seen the movie twice in my twenties but honestly when he said the name Franklin even I was like, "I don't remember the name but are you sure that it was Franklin?" Lol, then just when I started actually kind of believing in it he admits that his name is Cody. Lol
Just want to leave this for DK: great job dude! The editing is great and spot on with every episode. This was a huge task and it was great! Keep up the work good man!
Well-spoken, Mary. I remember Fox's Anastasia well, and my sister and I would often watch it. And I remember owning The Prince of Egypt on VHS, loved that film so much. :) And I completely agree that both Anastasia and Prince of Egypt of movies need more love. They have become more popular in recent years, but they deserve wider recognition.
Mine are Pocahontas and Lion King Pocahontas wasn't a exceptional movie or anything but I loved the soundtrack which I bought and listened to like everyday and I remember seeing Pocahontas as a little girl and thinking she was so pretty
The black Cauldron was just incredible... I loved it. My mom told me about it being her favorite movie in her childhood. I was suspicious but I have to say, as a 16 yo, I love it. Just so pureee
Alan Menken is truly The Man! Which is why I'm so excited he's doing the music for the new little mermaid together with Lin-Manuel Miranda. That sounds like a match made in heaven to me!
I firmly believe that Howard Ashman and Alan Menken were just as responsible for Mermaid’s success than anyone else. Ashman, in particular, pushed very hard for his songs to be pushed to the forefront. He wasn’t just the songwriter. He was very involved in the creative process. Let’s face it, The Little Mermaid would be nothing without its songs. It’s so sad that Ashman passed away before he could see Beauty and the Beast to its completion. I wonder what the Renaissance would have sounded like had he lived. Still, we have Alan Menken who is an absolute treasure and has created some of the most iconic melodies put to screen. Goodness, they were a great duo. RIP, Howard Ashman 💕💕💕
I enjoyed this but you forgot to mention the great Howard Ashman and how important he was in setting the tone at the beginning of the Renaissance. He was the original lyricist, book writer and partner of Alan Mencken for Little Shop of Horrors, both Broadway musical and movie. When they came to work for Disney he rescued the floundering (pun intended) production of Little Mermaid and become a driving creative force for pairing of animation and broadway style musical. He led story meetings and brought in voice actors with broadway vocal abilities who were also great character actors. He’s the one who chose to model Ursula after the drag queen Divine. He instilled many of the common tropes like the “I want” songs which became iconic in so many movies. He worked on Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and contributed to Aladdin before he died tragically young from AIDS. I also believe that he was responsible for bringing back to life the dying embers of the musical as a popular genre which had been in its own dark ages.
The rescuers down under was my favorite movie growing up. The opening shot of the “camera” moving through the outback really fast started my fascination with film making.
R.E.S.C.U.E! RESCUE AID SOCIETY!!!! Heads held high, touch the sky you mean everything to me! if you have seen rescuers down under or the rescuers you know the rest!
In a fix, in a bind, Call on us anytime, We'll appear from nowhere, Mighty are we! I'll always know how to spell "rescue" til the day I die. One of the very first films that I ever saw in the theater was the re-release of "The Rescuers" back in the 1980s. I still think "The Rescuers Down Under" is better than "The Lion King."
Best Disney villain song of all time! Home, home on the range! Where the critters are tied up in chains! I cut through their sides, And I rip off their hides, And the next day, I do it again!
I LOVE Anastasia and The Prince of Egypt! I've always said those 2 specifically felt like Disney movies. Also, the Road to Eldorado Anyhoo, thanks for the incredible video. I was born in 1993, raised on Disney movies on VHS, but never quite had a sense of what time period any of my movies were from This video explains a lot about why I have such a strong nostalgia for Disney Renaissance flicks specifically
Rescuers Down Under was one of my favorite movies when I was little and I didn't realize that so many people hadn't seen it until I was older. It must seemed like such a great movie.
J:"Franklin rescues this lovely eagle from one." Me:"Aw. I remember that.😭💛 wait. I thought his name was Cody." J:"Show of hands." Me:"okay. It has been awhile.🙋🏻♀️" J:"you're lying. His name is Cody!" Me:"😐☹I'm a liar!😭"
Lilo and Stitch... Leaving Lilo and Stich, the Franchise, to Die, was one of the biggest Mistakes they ever made. That's an objective fact, which you would know as such if you knew enough about the subject. But whatever, not being educated about this one thing aint a sin, i guess... or maybe it is, but that's not the point. THE POINT IS: This Franchise hadnt tired itself out, at all. So it should be Revived for Real. Countless People wait for it. Trust me, they do. We do.
Seriously NO mention of Howard Ashman. Like at all? He WAS the Disney Renaissance. You guys are usually so on point. He was the one that conceived of The Little Mermaid as a Broadway style musical, came up with many of the tropes that would be popular in the Renaissance movies, and even helped with tweaking some of the scenes ( The original draft of Aladdin was basically HIS story, until they had to do some major rewriting after his death). And that’s all with considering his amazing lyric writing. Without him and Menken. There would absolutely have not been a Disney Renaissance.
am i the only one whos just focusing on how cool his shirt is instead of the whole video? just me? okay, ill leave Thanks for the likes lol didn’t expect this many
The rescuers down under was one of the first disney movies I watched and remains one of my favorites to this day. So glad I am not the only one loving it!
Disney 90's : Disney princesses worked well in the golden age, let's replicate that formula. *it works very well* Disney 00's : I hate princesses, let's not do that again. Disney 10's : PRINCESSES !!
I didn't grow up with the Rescuer's Down Under, but I remember seeing that scene of the boy flying on the giant eagle on trailers of others Disney VHS tapes and just being in awe!
I think I've watched the 2 hour behind the scenes of Aladdin more than the movie itself. I love it, and want just the behind the scenes of all the Renaissance films in a collection for easy access. For example: the animators used the Arabic-style lines to draw everything. Jasmine's animator used a school picture of his sister as inspiration and she sewed herself and her kids themed costumes that Halloween, herself as the original Jasmine.
@Dora Maniyc It's just because there isn't as much content coming out. If there's something new involving Harry Potter, they'll focus all their attention on it for a while. They aren't just a Harry Potter channel, they cover a large range of topics, which for me, makes them more enjoyable.
Most of the popular movies since 1977 have been written by one ghostwriter. His birthday is Nov.16, 1976 and he was A child prodigy. He wrote songs, TV series, movies, books, comics and videogame concepts Ect. There were four more Harry Potter books planned but certain goals had not been met so the writer postponed them indefinitely. The first movie, videogame and Fantastic Beasts U.S. release dates are all on Nov.16! Back to the Future and Harry Potter are also linked in various ways. Yada...yada...yada...
That is very unlikely. If they aren't making theories on Harry Potter at the moment, then they probably have don't plan to make a new theory. You can't just ask them to make a theory and expect them to do it.
"Princesses, who so that coming?" Loved it. Hey J! I read once that Howard Ashman who was Alan Menken's song partner has a big part to do with the Renaissance. I remember watching the documentary Waking Sleeping Beauty and Howard Ashman had a huge meeting telling them how to create a story with music.
Not a mention of Howard Ashman, the lyricist behind Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Best, and Aladdin. He died of AIDS before Aladdin came out. He was instrumental in the success and popularity of those films.
Indeed it is. I didn't really know about it as a kid, since I was born some years after GMD came out. Now thanks to the internet, I have found how great and underrated the film is, along with others such as Rescuers Down Under, and I credit comments and forum discussions for helping me to discover and learn about them. (:
Disney theory: What if the new animated movies by Disney coming out are loose reimaginings of each of the Disney Renaissance movies? Hear me out. The most obvious one would be Moana. It's definitely a reimagining of Hercules if this theory is correct. They are both set in mythology, with a demigod character that is extremely strong, and both have the very similar "How far I'll go/Go the Distance" songs (great mashup of the two: ruclips.net/video/7R2DwvuSxdw/видео.html ). Next would be Big Hero 6. This may be a stretch to some but I think it is The Lion King. Both main characters have a close relative who is killed by a seeming accident that ends up actually being plotted by the main villain. They both make a team of friends that aren't used to being heroes in order to take him down at the end. Lastly, Zootopia would probably be Mulan. Both have a strong female lead character who defies social rules in order to pursue the path they want to and fight using their own equally powerful but different skills. I have no idea which one Frozen would be lol. Can y'all think of any others? Do you have any critiques of this theory? Comment and let me know!
Lilo and Stitch... Leaving Lilo and Stich, the Franchise, to Die, was one of the biggest Mistakes they ever made. That's an objective fact, which you would know as such if you knew enough about the subject. But whatever, not being educated about this one thing aint a sin, i guess... or maybe it is, but that's not the point. THE POINT IS: This Franchise hadnt tired itself out, at all. So it should be Revived for Real. Countless People wait for it. Trust me, they do. We do.
wow this is a good theory cuz it makes sense. Idk how this is not talked about more. You should keep this up in newer videos so that it can get noticed
I am so glad you made this video!!!!! Thank you for mentioning the importance of Don Bluth and Pre-Disney-Pixar's rolls in this era. I find it ironic that Bluth's last film with Disney was the original "Rescuers," (dark ages) when "Down Under" helped usher in the new era 10ish years later! Loosing big talent, and later gaining new big talent really helped outline the changes of these eras.
Whenever I tell someone what my favorite Disney princess is they always tell me that she’s not a Disney princess!(it’s Nala), I always say she is in the same character slot as the ‘princess’. It’s kind of like when I tell someone who my favorite Harry Potter character, which is Hedwig, and they always say that Hedwig doesn’t even talk.
What is your favorite Disney Renaissance movie?!
SuperCarlinBrothers alladdin
SuperCarlinBrothers Aladdin
SuperCarlinBrothers fortnite 2
Beauty and the Beast
Beauty and the Beast
Ariel also sings "Part of Your World" on and around some pretty large rocks. and there are cliffs right by her ocean.
Rhombicosidodecahedron and she literally sings the final note on a cliff out of water. That’s an a iconic scene of her on that little ledge of the water
@@NaeWerd Yeah that's my favorite scene in the whole movie. Closely followed by every other scene.
Lilo and Stitch...
Leaving Lilo and Stich, the Franchise, to Die, was one of the
biggest Mistakes they ever made.
That's an objective fact, which you would know as such if you knew enough about the subject.
But whatever, not being educated about this one thing aint a sin, i guess... or maybe it is, but
that's not the point.
THE POINT IS: This Franchise hadnt tired itself out, at all. So it should be Revived for Real.
Countless People wait for it. Trust me, they do. We do.
J: Emperors New Groove, The Lost City of Atlantis, and Lilo and Stitch were the last 2D animated films.
Treasure Planet: Am I a joke to you??
One of my favourite films 😭😭
And Princess and the frog
*Princess and The Frog has entered the chat*
Princess and the Frog: hold my mucus
@@UKSponge360 Muppet Treasure Island. Best pirate movie ever.
Me: "I didn't know that kid's name was Franklin; I thought it was C- ... oh."
That's really funny actualy
"how can I tell you're lying? BECAUSE HIS NAME IS ACUALLY CODY!"
I was like, "nope, Franklin don't sound right"
It. Was. Codie. Oh.
Lilo and Stitch...
Leaving Lilo and Stich, the Franchise, to Die, was one of the
biggest Mistakes they ever made.
That's an objective fact, which you would know as such if you knew enough about the subject.
But whatever, not being educated about this one thing aint a sin, i guess... or maybe it is, but
that's not the point.
THE POINT IS: This Franchise hadnt tired itself out, at all. So it should be Revived for Real.
Countless People wait for it. Trust me, they do. We do.
I feel like Princess and the Frog was a callback to the Disney Renaissance. It fits right in with the other films from that era.
While The Emperor's New Groove is definitely in my top 5 Disney movies, ever since I was a kid, my heart has belonged to The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
@@d20_dave53 I dont remember that well of when princess and the frog came out but I remember a lot of marketing was done saying it had people who helped create lion king
@@bigstunna2049 Well, it didn't work. Whenever I mentioned the movie to people around the time it came out, the response was almost always that they hadn't even heard of it.
@@d20_dave53 I think that's more of a generation thing maybe. I was born in 2000 and everyone I know my age and 5 years up knows about princess and the frog
@@bigstunna2049 Perhaps, but to be frank, if kids are the only ones who know about a Disney movie, that Disney movie is automatically a commercial failure. Disney movies that bring in huge box office numbers are the ones that people of all ages are talking about and want to see.
All Disney renaissance films are great.....except for hunchback of Norte dame
Him: not like a connected universe or something
MatPat: *laughs in evidence*
He did make a video explaining how Hercules and the little mermaid exist with in the same universe.
Haha WOW
@@ethanthegreat4804 in that theory he connected WAY MORE than those.
Also, good to see someone that gets my reference
Hello everyone welcome to FILM THEREY
Anime is better than Disney and Pixar 👍
You forget to mention Howard Ashman, he is the one that came with the idea of do the music in a Broadway style and was the one who wrote some of the most important songs, also he was the one who brought in Alan Menken, he is one of the most important parts of why the Renaissance era worked.
Jay: His name is Franklin.
Me: That doesn't sound right, but you've probably seen this movie more recently than I have, so I'll trust you.
Jay: His name is actually Cody.
Me: I shouldn't have trusted you.
Literally same
Ditto
I was so confused then I thought it was the sleep depravation, then betrayal.
But honestly, Emperors New Groove, Treasure Planet, and Atlantis are some of my favorite movies.
Carly Grass agreed. Atlantis is by far the most underrated Disney movie. Not the greatest of all time, but so much better than how little it’s remembered
@@Olivia_Dreamrider Treasure Planet
Emperor's New Grove is an honorary member of the Disney Renaissance
And The Nightmare Before Christmas
Emmily Rolan mmmmm, it's like adding toy story to the Renaissance. It's a good movie, but not originally Disney or 2D animated
Emmily Rolan actually there’s debate about that, Disney wants to own The Nightmare Before Christmas, but it technically belongs to Tim Burton
@@hijabiart8653 Seeing how much Nightmare stuff they sell at Disneyland I thinm they own it big time
GnammyHamster you don’t need to own a movie in order to have the rights to make merchandise
Me: already knows this
Also me: when HE explains it, it feels like I’m learning it all again
True. And, also, likely learned it him in some other video too
All this and more.. there's a lot of good story here.
Same here
Can you guys talk about underrated Disney movies like Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, and etc?
Alina Hong I love these movies so much!
Alina Hong brother bear is the best
YES please!
Brother Bear is so underrated! It never gets a mention in anything!
Why are those movies so underrated? 😕 I remember loving a lot of these as a kid
“Show of hands; who actually knew that kid’s name was Franklin? You know how I know you’re lying, cause is name is actually Cody.”
Hahahhahah
What do you want to bet he got the name wrong and then edited in a clip to turn it around "I was just testing you"? lol
I bet at least one person deleted their comment "Yeah i knew his name was franklin too!"
Lapis Wither lol
Lapis Wither 100%
When I was little for some reason I thought his name was “Colby” like the cheese. I also thought Andy from Toy Story was named Jesse (Toy Story 2 made me even more confused) and Alvin was the name of the guy in Alvin and the Chipmunks
Am I the only one who misses 2D animated movies??
I wish Disney made at least one.
That's where it all began.
I miss them too. In fact, for most of animation's history, 2D, or traditional animation was the dominant form of animation until the late 1990s or early 2000s. I wish they'd at least try releasing a few 2D animated films to take advantage of the new technologies that could make very beautiful 2D animation. :)
@@sirclassicalhou3650 I agree with you 100%!!
Imagine the amazing things they'd do with the current technology. It would be mind blowing!
Golden Rose like Atlantis. That’s my fave
Golden Rose I love the 2D ones and the newer ones
This made me LOVE Mary Poppins Returns, as it kinda demanded the hand-drawn touches of the original.
Thank you so much for talking about The Rescuers Down Under!!! Such an underrated movie! Also Emperor’s New Groove is spectacular!
Love it!!
I really needed to search Emperors new groove, because i had never heard the englisch title. But yes, those two are great
I know! I loved those movies, he mentioned so many that are my childhood! Too many people haven't given them a chance.
Yes, they do deserve more recognition. They aren't obscure, but having them acknowledged to some mainstream degree would be great for many others to discover those films, especially Emperor's New Groove. :)
Never seen rescuers down under but LOVE Emperors new grove
Ok but who else wants to see them do a video about The Hunchback of Notre Dame being completely underrated and not talked about enough. Because it’s amazing!
Kaitlyn Miller I want them to make one to! Although they don’t know how to pronounce “Notre Dame” so I’m a bit worried about that lol
GeeksandCrafts ! Oh yeah...somebody’s got to tell them before I cringe for 15 minutes 😂
Best Disney movie to date!
I love this one
Mostly for hellfire
Frolo is the best Disney villain by far. God that man is scary.
Several of the “dark age” movies were like childhood classics for me especially the fox and the hound and Winnie the Pooh
The Fox and the Hound still makes me cry to this day
winnie the pooh isnt in the dark ages
When you said “fox and the hound” all the memories came *rushing* back. I had almost forgotten about it
Robin Hood and Little John walkin though the forest
I cant get over the fact that he thinks we havent seen or even heard of movies like Fun and Fancy free I use to watch that all the time and I have heard about Ichabod and mister toad
So we have the
Golden age
Silver age
DARK AGE
Renaissance
And now the
Live action age
WHERE IT FEELS LIKE EVERY DISNEY MOVIE EVER WILL BE LIVE ACTIONIFIED
After the Renaissance there was this weird phase Disney went through known as the Experimental Phase, and then there was the Revival Age with The Princess and The Frog , Tangeld, Frozen, Big Hero 6, etc. Now they've really lost touch with all these remakes unfortunately
@Hilari Parsons the phase stuff from what I heard only includes stuff from the Disney animated canon. Which excludes the live action remakes/reboots/sequels. The Disney revival’s most recent film was Ralph breaks the internet.
Royal Rutter it makes me sad that Ralph Breaks the Internet is even Disney
Do you think we'll get an animated remake of John Carter? Yeah, no.
Bruh lion king was literally the exact same like they just made it realistic, they literally stole shots from the movie :(
I'm so glad you guys did this video so more people appreciate the beauty, talent and work behind this historic Disney era
Indeed, I'm proud of them for making this video too. The Renaissance movies are indeed very famous, but not many people know the work and behind-the-scenes information behind the Disney Renaissance.
Lilo and Stitch...
Leaving Lilo and Stich, the Franchise, to Die, was one of the
biggest Mistakes they ever made.
That's an objective fact, which you would know as such if you knew enough about the subject.
But whatever, not being educated about this one thing aint a sin, i guess... or maybe it is, but
that's not the point.
THE POINT IS: This Franchise hadnt tired itself out, at all. So it should be Revived for Real.
Countless People wait for it. Trust me, they do. We do.
how about disney american legend,s war,time era
The Hunchback of Norte Dame is such a beautiful movie and it’s so underrated... it might be darker than a lot of the others from the renaissance but it’s so much more developed and really deserves more love than it gets.
It would be interesting to learn about the history of the movie, why it’s so much darker (wasn’t it at a time when they were adopting classic novels such as Treasure Island?) and why it didn’t do well.
No matter what, it’s under appreciated
It arguably has the best Disney villain and villain song.
@@darkforge15 Villain is arguable, but it undoubtably has the best villain song.
"We can all agree The Emperor's New Groove is the best Disney movie of all time, right? right. Right?..."
(Starts laughing, thinking "you know it!" and absentmindedly thumbs up the screen.)
"..Right!"
(Jay Thumbs up the camera)
WHAT?!
16:49 The man besides him is the true disney legend. Mad respect for Howard! Disney always had "I want" songs since Snow White but only after The Little Mermaid and "Part of Your World" that it has been the formula ever since, thanks to Howard Ashman. The little mermaid, beauty and the beast and Aladdin's songs was written by Howard Ashman. Alan Menken is the one who composed the music. It's a shame that you're explaining about disney renaissance but you dont even mention Howard. Sadly that just few of disney fans that recognized and talked about him. He was literally the reason why disney is still exist now. Howard Ashman is a legendary lyricist who made Disney rises from its downfall and started the renaissance era of Disney, who recently returned from his huge career in musical broadway theater world that time. He is the one who directing Jodi Benson to sing Part of Your World. We all know that the original Part of Your World will always be the best "I Want" song in the entire disney universe. Not just because the nostalgia vibe but also Jodi Benson was really well and carefully directed by Howard Ashman, that even her breaths, stress and pause on each syllable are really well and gently cared for. When he directed Jodi, he always said "don't focus to the song, now you're telling a story". Howard wasn't focusing of the song and what makes the song sounds good or what makes it a song but how it tells a story. That's why there are many imperfections in the song, because it's the main part of it. An important part of maintaining that type of reserved passion is also that Part of Your World does not change key. In the worlds of pop music and musical theater finishing off with a key change is a helpful tool for bringing songs to a heightened emotional level and when covering Part of Your World, some people have done exactly that but I don't really think that a key change is necessary because that wasn't the intent of the songwriters. Howard said that intensity is better than enormous in this song. Howard said that intensity is better than enormous in this song. In fact I think that's staying in the same key the whole time is what makes it work so well having it push and pull and eventually bring Ariel back down to where she started tells a story effectively it even ends with the same motif it began with showing the audience the life that she wants but then going back to the life that she has. You can know that Howard Ashman was a great lyricist that he can even tell a story from a song. He also made the song dynamically switching from singing to talking and vice versa but the transition between them is still unnoticeable. And it didn't happen once, literally he directed every songs in those 3 films. If you really search on youtube, there are many videos that show behind the scene of the songs making. Like in beauty and the beast, he directed Paige O'Hara the same way too. Just search "Howard Ashman demo" on youtube, you can see how may songs he sung really containts much emotion than current disney songs.
Also this is how Jodi's said to him
ruclips.net/video/itaEZeJoqK0/видео.html
Hard to believe that this beautiful song, Part of Your World, was almost cut from the movie. Jeffrey Katzenberg hated it and thought that it not only slowed down the movie but was boring. Howard fought hard to convince Katzenberg that this song belonged in the movie. And I'm glad he did. Disney renaissance is mostly known by their songs. Before the little mermaid project, Howard gathered the whole disney crew for a meeting. He tell about broadway history to all the crew and they all were impressed at him. Fun fact: Howard did much more than write the songs on this movie, he also brought on board Jodi Benson, directed her during this song, changed an English butler crab named Clarence to be a Jamaican crab named Sebastian, wrote the dialog in the scene where Triton gives Ariel her legs, and also produced the movie with John Musker.
After The Little Mermaid released and became a biggest success in box office, Howard Ashman and Alan Menken was going to make movie called Aladdin. They've come up with several of ideas and musical numbers but Jeffrey Katzenberg then dragging them to a new project, Beauty and The Beast. Unfortunately, Ashman passed away 6 month before beauty and the beast was released and that movie was dedicated to him that even in the credit scene you can see that they gaved him credit to honor him because of how important he was. After beauty and the beast released, Jeffrey then took away all of Ashman's idea and script, almost 99% of them. But sadly some of the songs were removed in the final film
He is the one who bring the new element broadway musical to the movie. This is the bright spot where everyone started to watching to animated movies again, previously no one was at all interested in animated movies. That's why every single disney movie now has a song in it. Disney keep using this formula until now (but not as effective as in the renaissance) because it's Howard's legacy. You can tell how they respect Ashman that even in Beauty and The Beast credit scene, there's a statement to honor him
"To our friend, Howard,
who gave a mermaid her voice
and a beast his soul,
we will be forever grateful."
Howard Ashman
1950-1991
No wonder why The Little Mermaid be the first disney animated classic who get an oscar nomination. Also Beauty and the Beast is Disney's 30th animated motion picture, a dedication to Howard Ashman before he had passed away and the only classic movie to be nominated for an Academy Award for Best Animated Feature and Best Picture.
He was the one who brought “I Want” song to another level! I Want song is literally every disney movies now. "In almost every musical ever written... the leading lady usually sits down on something... and sings about what she wants in life, and the audience falls in love with her and roots for her to get for the rest of the night." - Howard Ashman.
He and his partner, Alan Menken, is the greatest duo that anyone have ever recognized in animated movie history. Also gain respect to Alan Menken, The little mermaid is actually his first score yet he can bring the magic with that scores. You can said that Part of Your World orchestra in the opening scene is the best choir you have ever seen and heard.
Have you ever heard about the quote
"There are three kinds of pianists: Jewish pianists, homosexual pianists, and bad pianists."
-Vladimir Horowitz
That quote actually referring to Ashman because he was Jewish and gay but still doesnt changed the fact that he really put his care and love the the movies
It's hard not to hear the parallels to his own life. To be a gay man in that day and age (and to be literally dying of AIDS) and to wrestle with that kind of longing, that kind of loneliness, that kind of confusion, that kind of self-hatred... The message comes loud and clear even when it's not sung by a mermaid. Tremendous achievement, brilliant man. RIP.
I can't imagine how much more greater and better Disney would have been doing today if this great man was still alive. It hurts to actually wonder.
I greatly recommend you to watch these videos
ruclips.net/video/QVHgdI8OyxA/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/y04xePQaDgA/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/sr3a69Ym5t8/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/YtnsSnMIzZw/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/JX0gZY9VKlM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/egCo5Qb_fs4/видео.html
Also films like Waking Sleeping Beauty and Howard's documenter film in Disney+ could really help you to know more about him.
-J: "Show of hands, who new that kids name was Franklin?"
-Me: Raises hand "Ha I new that! At least I have Disney knowledge to my name."
-J: "Psyche! His name's Cody"
-Me: "Alright Ima go jump off one of those rocks he was mentioning"
Me: Yeah I knew his name was franklin
Jay: Psyche his name is Cody
Me: Yeah this is big brain time
Yeah Cody ... Franklin is a 🐢
Which part was this??
J: “Show of hands, who knew that kid’s name was Franklin?”
Me: Wait, I thought his name was Cody?
J: “You want to know how I can tell you’re lying? Because his name is Cody!”
Me: But... I... okay...
Every time I watch The Rescuers Down Under, my mom reminds me that my brother and I used to watch it every single day when we were little, so often that she can still recognize the sound of the film from the other side of the house. I have no recollection of doing this, but I can see why, with its gorgeous animation and talking animal characters, that it would appeal to a very young child.
For people who are interested specifically in the musical aspect of the Disney renaissance, I would highly recommend checking out the Sideways video on what makes Disney music sound so distinctively "nostalgic."
My favorite is Tarzan! You'll be in my heart, no matter what they say....that part always gets me in the Happily Ever After fireworks show
Avery The Cuban-American i’ve seen u comment on a crowded video and honest trailer and now super carlin bros, wth u following me?
@@itsalexflores ooooooor.... maybe you're following them since they had to have been there before you for you to see their comments... hmmmmmmmm. 🤔🤷♀️
Tarzan has (together with the Lion king) one of my all time favorite soundtracks from Disney movies. Phil Colins😍
And even the musical version is great. I can really recommend it🤔
I remember crying when I saw it in theaters.
Ummm name drop Alan menkin but what about his partner Howard Ashman who wrote the lyrics. They were a team and Ashman loved everything he did for Disney. A special sole who was taken too soon. Even on his death bed he was wearing a beauty and the beast jumper and writing songs on a small keyboard. RIP
Interesting, I hadn’t heard that! Also, *soul. 😉
IKR?!!! Like, Ashman should be synonomous with Menkin. 😭
Exactly! The only thing that was missing in the video was at least a nod to Ashman and his great work, and unfortunate departure.
Lilo and Stitch...
Leaving Lilo and Stich, the Franchise, to Die, was one of the
biggest Mistakes they ever made.
That's an objective fact, which you would know as such if you knew enough about the subject.
But whatever, not being educated about this one thing aint a sin, i guess... or maybe it is, but
that's not the point.
THE POINT IS: This Franchise hadnt tired itself out, at all. So it should be Revived for Real.
Countless People wait for it. Trust me, they do. We do.
r.i.p
Have you considered doing a colab with film theory? If not you should
Edit: film theory not game theory
More like Film Theory.
Or film theory
OMG YESS, that would be amazing!
I assume you mean Film Theory, but yes! They totally should!
Yeah they should totally do a collab with film\game theory!! That would be awesome and it definitely get a view and a like from me!!!😉
am I the only one who misses hand-drawn animation?
Studio ghibli is still hand drawing there animations! You should check it out. I suggest Spirited Away.
I miss it too.
Locket kidd5924 no I miss it too!
Same. It's been years since I've seen a hand drawn animated movie. I miss it.
@@sjanimates873 2 words Studio ghibli.
Love this video. My favorite Disney Renaissance movie is The Hunchback of Notre Dame. It has amazing music, characters you cheer for, and THE BEST Disney villain ever! (And the darkest Disney villain song too).
Lion King and Mulan!
It's my fav time of the week!
I love how the notification squad is always commenting right when the vid gets posted.
SCB and J's vlog channel is literally my fav channel!
man i've been waiting the whole video for you to mention Alan manken... this guy is in absloute legend...!
*whispers* you think he knows Alan Menkin started on Broadway right?
Alan Menken single-handedly turned a whole generation of us into singers and Broadway fans, ngl 😅
Absolutely! I'm directing a production of Little Shop and am reminded of how genius Menken is.
“Oh that Glorious dust”
-J 2019
Great video! Haven't even finished it though lol
Ralph Gryn me tooo
Same
Lol sameee
Love Rescuers Down Under. Great Mouse Dectetive and empeoror's new groove. All great under rated classics.
Totally agree on Rescuers and Great Mouse Detective. I'm not sure Emp is underrated - isn't it pretty well loved across the board? I'm shocked it didn't do well in the box office because it's an easy favorite for my family, my wife's, and pretty much anyone I've ever talked to. Maybe it has just become a cult hit in the interim.
As a graphic designer, the last snippet of the new intro with the red and black graphic of the new logo is amazing! And I see that is now your profile pic and I cannot be more on board for that!
I also studied animation for a few years after I got my degree in graphic design... Your explanation of the Disney Renaissance is possibly the best of any professor that I had. Your ability to analyze visuals that drive the story is brilliant and so easy to understand. I don't think it's hard to realize that part of the Disney Renaissance was getting back to a musical foundation, but I loved listening to you talk about Menken and how he was truly a driving force in the Disney Renaissance.
I've been a long time watcher (mostly for Harry Potter videos) but I think this was my favorite video you guys have put out 👍👍👍
The current era of Disney films proves one thing above all else, Alan Tudyk is awesome
Anyone else die a little inside when he pronounced The Hunchback of Notre Dame 🤣
GeeksandCrafts ! Died so hard.
Ah yeah but I get that a lot... But then I'm Aussie so there's a few things Americana pronounce weirdly. especially foreign words when it's clearly pronounced differently in the native country... And it isn't that hard to pronounce.
Aluminum gets me every time.
But yeah notre dame 🤣
I also cringed a tiny little bit when I heard it. Noticed him saying « EsmerElda » instead of EsmerAlda and cringed again a little 😅
The lyricist Howard Ashman and his music partner Menken were a huge part of the music quality that I believe drove the beginnings of renaissance. They were from broadway, famously having written the music for Little Shop of Horrors. Ashman wrote all the lyrics for Little Mermaid, Beauty And The Beast and Aladdin. After he sadly died from AIDS in 1991, the lyrical quality of the music in later films suffered. Menken’s contribution still held up a high standard but there was an edge that was missing, which is why those first 3 films stand apart.
Aladdin is by far my favorite renaissance movie 😁
Alan Menken also wrote pretty amazing musicals. Little Shop of Horrors is great.
We stan Alan Menken.
* Glances at profile picture * ...
I am BIG little shop of horrors fan.
also the Aladdin musical is great
Greatest composer of all time
I wouldn't necessarily say "The Emperor's New Groove" ended the Disney Renaissance. "Tarzan" is generally considered the last renaissance movie, and it breaks form by not having any characters sing. RUclipsr Sideways argued that this is why the renaissance ended.
The first post-renaissance (or experimental) movies were "Fantasia 2000" and "Dinosaur." "Emperor's New Groove" was only the third in this series of films, so I wouldn't place any real blame on it for the end of the renaissance.
It aimed for something different. Could you imagine trying to cast David Spade as a Disney prince.
Awesome video!
Would definitely recommend the viewers to watch “Waking Sleeping Beauty”.
Also sad you didn’t include Howard Ashman, I feel like he was just as influential as Allen Menken especially to kickstart the renaissance. he wrote some of the most iconic lyrics of our favourite songs !!
Exactly. I was shocked that he didn't mention Howard Ashman. He's the guy that advocated Disney to do musicals again.
Yes he deserves as much of a mention
I suppose I'm a statistical outlier, because I have definitely not only heard of but seen the Three Caballeros and Ichabod. The Aracuan Song is actually my ringtone. I think that may just be the original "Let It Go," since its just gibberish that goes on and on and on. . .
8:39 - 8:59 I NEVER considered this even as an adult. It feels like with all of these shots we're on a Disney Theme Park ride, going through the adventure and exploring the scope of the world as the characters see it. That kind of perspective is the brilliance of the Disney Renaissance personified.
The old intro was one of the most memorable and fun parts of this channel 😞
New is better imo
SpadeZap
Dude the other one is what I grew up on
Yea i miss the old one it was just more epic
My first thought after seeing the notification
“Well I knew they were gonna connect them into a universe sooner or later.”
Wow, two Disney Renaissance related videos in a span of a day. The first from Network1901 and now the SuperCarlinBrothers.
13:28-13:42 - And Couldn't agreed with you more ever since Wreck-It Ralph and ESPECIALLY Frozen, Disney has been shoehorning the Plot-Twist villain trope in EVERY Animated film these days where it just becomes repetitive, and overdone and you can thank Pixar's influence (mainly John Lasseter) for making Disney Animation Studios utilizing this in their films these last 6 years. Sometimes it works (e.g. King Candy) other times it becomes TOO obvious and cliched (e.g. Hans, Callaghan). 😑
I'm Hopeful, that future Disney animated films from Walt Disney Animation Studios will bring back the classic Disney villain from the Renaissance era, cause we haven't had a classic Disney villain since Dr. Facilier and Mother Gothel.
Thank you so much. Hope you do one on the post-renaissance and the Disney Revival era soon. #DisneyRenaissance
J : “I have a hard time believing that you know or have seen these movies”
Me : starts screaming when I see “ fun and fancy free “
Andrea Fletes I didn’t start screaming, but I have seen 3/5, and I enjoyed all of them very much. Take that J.
I absolutely love Fun and Fancy Free! Pretty sure I came close to wearing out that VHS. That and Melody Time were part of my childhood, and I finally saw the other three movies later on! So yes indeed, take that, J XD
Watched The Three Caballeros for my Hispanic Civilizations class. It was fun!
@@missybarbour6885 I had an old recorded VHS of The Three Caballeros as a kid. IT WAS MY FAVORITE.
Still own them all
Jay: I doubt you've seen any of these movies
Me: How *DARE* you! All (but the first) are some of favorite things growing up with the VHS's thank you!
Yes, be love me some fun & fancy free and ichobod
J:Franklin rescues this lovely Eagles from one
Me:🤨 Franklin?
J:Show of hands who knew that his name was actually franklin
Me: ??? It’s not though
J: yeah mnhm you know how I can tell your lying?
Me who hasn’t seen the movie in like five years: cuz it’s Cody???
J: because it’s actually Cody!
Me: 😄
Strangerfans time stamp?
Cute Dorky Nerd Girl 7:58
I do not remember the name of the movie ... I know that I have seen it years ago but the name won‘t come up 🤔
Frank was the lizard's name wsn't it? I think he was a frilled lizard? He was funny.
I admit I've only seen the movie twice in my twenties but honestly when he said the name Franklin even I was like, "I don't remember the name but are you sure that it was Franklin?" Lol, then just when I started actually kind of believing in it he admits that his name is Cody. Lol
Just want to leave this for DK: great job dude! The editing is great and spot on with every episode. This was a huge task and it was great! Keep up the work good man!
Hey thanks! :-)
"Like Anastasia out of Fox."
THANK YOU.
And Prince of Egypt. Those two are truly wonderful :)
I love Anastasia! It’s the best fox movie ever
@@strawberrywatts1001 I didn't even know it was from Fox, I just assumed all pastel style animated movies were Disney.
Well-spoken, Mary. I remember Fox's Anastasia well, and my sister and I would often watch it. And I remember owning The Prince of Egypt on VHS, loved that film so much. :)
And I completely agree that both Anastasia and Prince of Egypt of movies need more love. They have become more popular in recent years, but they deserve wider recognition.
@@sirclassicalhou3650 Yeah, Anastasia's making a comeback now that it's on Broadway.
My favorite Disney Renaissance movie has gotta be Hunchback! The animation is so pretty, and the music is wonderful!
That opening with the choir? Epic! The only thing coming close to that is the Prince of Egypt opening (and the Plagues song).
Mine are Pocahontas and Lion King Pocahontas wasn't a exceptional movie or anything but I loved the soundtrack which I bought and listened to like everyday and I remember seeing Pocahontas as a little girl and thinking she was so pretty
The black Cauldron was just incredible... I loved it. My mom told me about it being her favorite movie in her childhood. I was suspicious but I have to say, as a 16 yo, I love it. Just so pureee
Alan Menken is truly The Man! Which is why I'm so excited he's doing the music for the new little mermaid together with Lin-Manuel Miranda. That sounds like a match made in heaven to me!
I firmly believe that Howard Ashman and Alan Menken were just as responsible for Mermaid’s success than anyone else. Ashman, in particular, pushed very hard for his songs to be pushed to the forefront. He wasn’t just the songwriter. He was very involved in the creative process. Let’s face it, The Little Mermaid would be nothing without its songs. It’s so sad that Ashman passed away before he could see Beauty and the Beast to its completion. I wonder what the Renaissance would have sounded like had he lived. Still, we have Alan Menken who is an absolute treasure and has created some of the most iconic melodies put to screen. Goodness, they were a great duo. RIP, Howard Ashman 💕💕💕
When you helped end the renaissance, were really good, but don't even get mentioned in the video
[sad Treasure Planet noises]
Tarzan actually ended the Renaissance Era. Treasure Planet was part of the Experimental Era.
THE INJUSTICE!!! T-T
~I’m still here~
Poor Treasure Planet.. Poor Musker and Clement.. Disney repaid their hard work poorly.. Shame on that marketing dept.. shame
3:15 They’re called package films in case you’re wondering, which are described as a bunch of prolonged animated shorts lumped together.
“Noter dame” - the school
“Notra Dahm” - the cathedral
You could never say noter dame in France lol they'd persecute you
@ lol yes
I enjoyed this but you forgot to mention the great Howard Ashman and how important he was in setting the tone at the beginning of the Renaissance.
He was the original lyricist, book writer and partner of Alan Mencken for Little Shop of Horrors, both Broadway musical and movie. When they came to work for Disney he rescued the floundering (pun intended) production of Little Mermaid and become a driving creative force for pairing of animation and broadway style musical. He led story meetings and brought in voice actors with broadway vocal abilities who were also great character actors. He’s the one who chose to model Ursula after the drag queen Divine. He instilled many of the common tropes like the “I want” songs which became iconic in so many movies. He worked on Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and contributed to Aladdin before he died tragically young from AIDS.
I also believe that he was responsible for bringing back to life the dying embers of the musical as a popular genre which had been in its own dark ages.
Yes! I liked this video a lot, but he gave all the credits to Alan Menken for the soundtracks and forgot Howard Ashman and other lyricists.
The rescuers down under was my favorite movie growing up. The opening shot of the “camera” moving through the outback really fast started my fascination with film making.
R.E.S.C.U.E!
RESCUE AID SOCIETY!!!!
Heads held high, touch the sky
you mean everything to me!
if you have seen rescuers down under or the rescuers you know the rest!
Helena K. Somebody call the Coast Guard I love em USA USA USA 🇺🇸
In a fix, in a bind,
Call on us anytime,
We'll appear from nowhere,
Mighty are we!
I'll always know how to spell "rescue" til the day I die. One of the very first films that I ever saw in the theater was the re-release of "The Rescuers" back in the 1980s. I still think "The Rescuers Down Under" is better than "The Lion King."
Best Disney villain song of all time!
Home, home on the range!
Where the critters are tied up in chains!
I cut through their sides,
And I rip off their hides,
And the next day, I do it again!
people are MISSING out on the rescuers
@@KlingonCaptain Home on the Range, a brutally underrated Disney masterpiece.
I LOVE Anastasia and The Prince of Egypt! I've always said those 2 specifically felt like Disney movies. Also, the Road to Eldorado
Anyhoo, thanks for the incredible video. I was born in 1993, raised on Disney movies on VHS, but never quite had a sense of what time period any of my movies were from
This video explains a lot about why I have such a strong nostalgia for Disney Renaissance flicks specifically
Rescuers Down Under was one of my favorite movies when I was little and I didn't realize that so many people hadn't seen it until I was older. It must seemed like such a great movie.
Just throwing it out there.... the 3 cabbelleros (idk about that spelling) is absolutely amazing... go check it
"Fun and Fancy Free" was one of my favorites. Only God knows how many times that VHS tape was played...
20:00 and Treasure planet! WHY DO PEOPLE FORGET THIS MOVIE
Shadelz IT'S INEXCUSABLE!!!
J: Oh, that glorious dust.
Me: Glorious indeed... The dust shall rule us all!
Treasure Planet being the forgotten movie as always :(( it's still one of my favourites and should have done better
J:"Franklin rescues this lovely eagle from one."
Me:"Aw. I remember that.😭💛 wait. I thought his name was Cody."
J:"Show of hands."
Me:"okay. It has been awhile.🙋🏻♀️"
J:"you're lying. His name is Cody!"
Me:"😐☹I'm a liar!😭"
me
Lilo and Stitch...
Leaving Lilo and Stich, the Franchise, to Die, was one of the
biggest Mistakes they ever made.
That's an objective fact, which you would know as such if you knew enough about the subject.
But whatever, not being educated about this one thing aint a sin, i guess... or maybe it is, but
that's not the point.
THE POINT IS: This Franchise hadnt tired itself out, at all. So it should be Revived for Real.
Countless People wait for it. Trust me, they do. We do.
Seriously NO mention of Howard Ashman. Like at all? He WAS the Disney Renaissance. You guys are usually so on point. He was the one that conceived of The Little Mermaid as a Broadway style musical, came up with many of the tropes that would be popular in the Renaissance movies, and even helped with tweaking some of the scenes ( The original draft of Aladdin was basically HIS story, until they had to do some major rewriting after his death). And that’s all with considering his amazing lyric writing. Without him and Menken. There would absolutely have not been a Disney Renaissance.
5:48 - 5:54
*DUM DUM TSSH*
(Get it? Cause he said SCALE and fishes... they- they have scales... I’m not funny.)
Just here to say: I, too, love the rescuers down under
I watched it a lot when I was a kid, and I loved it
I’m convinced that if a character is ever named Franklin J and Ben are going to be just so so happy.
Awsome can you make a vid for every disney era just like this one plz
Yessssss
am i the only one whos just focusing on how cool his shirt is instead of the whole video? just me? okay, ill leave
Thanks for the likes lol didn’t expect this many
Don’t worry I also love his shirt
I did the same thing.
Zoha Baig I know his shirt is great
The rescuers down under was one of the first disney movies I watched and remains one of my favorites to this day. So glad I am not the only one loving it!
I own Ichabod and mr. toad on VHS and loved watching it growing up and still do 😄
Same. Amazing how he thinks just because he's never seen them, means nobody has
Same. I have the three caballeros too
Thank you! Once again I appreciate the deep dive into Disney animation. BTW, I love Emperor's New Groove. Non-stop laughs. ;)
I agree its one of my alltime favorite movies lol
I love this video so much, I rewatch it at least twice a year. So good.
My favorite is Los Tres Caballeros! Underrated movie! It deserves to at least be remembered!
Yeah the scene where donald tries to make himself big again with magic is probably the funniest donald scene ever
I'd seen Fun and Fancy Free + Melody Time. We had them on VHS when I was a kid.
Disney 90's : Disney princesses worked well in the golden age, let's replicate that formula. *it works very well*
Disney 00's : I hate princesses, let's not do that again.
Disney 10's : PRINCESSES !!
I didn't grow up with the Rescuer's Down Under, but I remember seeing that scene of the boy flying on the giant eagle on trailers of others Disney VHS tapes and just being in awe!
I think I've watched the 2 hour behind the scenes of Aladdin more than the movie itself. I love it, and want just the behind the scenes of all the Renaissance films in a collection for easy access. For example: the animators used the Arabic-style lines to draw everything. Jasmine's animator used a school picture of his sister as inspiration and she sewed herself and her kids themed costumes that Halloween, herself as the original Jasmine.
I request you to make a Harry Potter Theory video. You haven't done this in a long while and I miss those videos.
Jitesh Prajapat like so he’ll see please! I agree we need more theory vids
@Dora Maniyc It's just because there isn't as much content coming out. If there's something new involving Harry Potter, they'll focus all their attention on it for a while. They aren't just a Harry Potter channel, they cover a large range of topics, which for me, makes them more enjoyable.
Most of the popular movies since 1977 have been written by one ghostwriter. His birthday is Nov.16, 1976 and he was A child prodigy.
He wrote songs, TV series, movies, books, comics and videogame concepts Ect.
There were four more Harry Potter books planned but certain goals had not been met so the writer postponed them indefinitely.
The first movie, videogame and Fantastic Beasts U.S. release dates are all on Nov.16!
Back to the Future and Harry Potter are also linked in various ways. Yada...yada...yada...
That is very unlikely. If they aren't making theories on Harry Potter at the moment, then they probably have don't plan to make a new theory. You can't just ask them to make a theory and expect them to do it.
Jitesh Prajapat I totally agree. Please do more!!!!!
The sword in the stone is probably Disney’s most underrated movie, that scene with the squirrels is hilarious
16:02 a SHOW stoppin' number, a real SHOW STOPPER
A show STOPPIN number come on
"Princesses, who so that coming?" Loved it. Hey J! I read once that Howard Ashman who was Alan Menken's song partner has a big part to do with the Renaissance. I remember watching the documentary Waking Sleeping Beauty and Howard Ashman had a huge meeting telling them how to create a story with music.
Not a mention of Howard Ashman, the lyricist behind Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Best, and Aladdin. He died of AIDS before Aladdin came out. He was instrumental in the success and popularity of those films.
The Great Mouse Detective is such an underrated classic!!
Indeed it is. I didn't really know about it as a kid, since I was born some years after GMD came out. Now thanks to the internet, I have found how great and underrated the film is, along with others such as Rescuers Down Under, and I credit comments and forum discussions for helping me to discover and learn about them. (:
3:47 When you said “The Dark Age” it actually made me jump 😂
Saaame! I almost drop my phone
Ella Salazar lol
Sameeee 😂😂
J: Oh that glorious dust
*Infinity War flashbacks begin*
WHY?!
The Lion King will always be my all time favorite Disney film.
#LongLiveTheKing🦁👑
Hahahahahaha...one can't simply CHOOSE a favorite Disney Renaissance movie!
It will always be Hercules for me
Tarzan for me
Angela Davidson mulan for sure followed closely by Lion king
This is one of the best Collins Brothers clips I've ever watched! Pro all the way! Love it!
I have to say Fun and Fancy Free was a wonderful movie and Bongo was a great bear, awesome video though 💕
Disney theory:
What if the new animated movies by Disney coming out are loose reimaginings of each of the Disney Renaissance movies? Hear me out. The most obvious one would be Moana. It's definitely a reimagining of Hercules if this theory is correct. They are both set in mythology, with a demigod character that is extremely strong, and both have the very similar "How far I'll go/Go the Distance" songs (great mashup of the two: ruclips.net/video/7R2DwvuSxdw/видео.html ). Next would be Big Hero 6. This may be a stretch to some but I think it is The Lion King. Both main characters have a close relative who is killed by a seeming accident that ends up actually being plotted by the main villain. They both make a team of friends that aren't used to being heroes in order to take him down at the end. Lastly, Zootopia would probably be Mulan. Both have a strong female lead character who defies social rules in order to pursue the path they want to and fight using their own equally powerful but different skills. I have no idea which one Frozen would be lol. Can y'all think of any others? Do you have any critiques of this theory? Comment and let me know!
Lilo and Stitch...
Leaving Lilo and Stich, the Franchise, to Die, was one of the
biggest Mistakes they ever made.
That's an objective fact, which you would know as such if you knew enough about the subject.
But whatever, not being educated about this one thing aint a sin, i guess... or maybe it is, but
that's not the point.
THE POINT IS: This Franchise hadnt tired itself out, at all. So it should be Revived for Real.
Countless People wait for it. Trust me, they do. We do.
wow this is a good theory cuz it makes sense. Idk how this is not talked about more. You should keep this up in newer videos so that it can get noticed
I am so glad you made this video!!!!! Thank you for mentioning the importance of Don Bluth and Pre-Disney-Pixar's rolls in this era. I find it ironic that Bluth's last film with Disney was the original "Rescuers," (dark ages) when "Down Under" helped usher in the new era 10ish years later! Loosing big talent, and later gaining new big talent really helped outline the changes of these eras.
My husband’s family loves the rescuers down under so much they named him after Cody
Whenever I tell someone what my favorite Disney princess is they always tell me that she’s not a Disney princess!(it’s Nala), I always say she is in the same character slot as the ‘princess’.
It’s kind of like when I tell someone who my favorite Harry Potter character, which is Hedwig, and they always say that Hedwig doesn’t even talk.