EMERGENCY POD: The Buffalo Bills FIRE Ken DORSEY
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This was brewing since last year it started in the 2nd half of the packers game the offense hasn't been the same
The offense looked like this for large portions of 2021 too…
I have been saying the exact same thing for a year and a half.
Absolutely Correct. - 2nd half of the Packer game, they have glitches of greatness, but overall it hasn't been the same since that game
Absolutely! I've been saying this myself. They were cruising in that game and he just started making stupid plays !
I always see Josh looking spaced out on the bench during the Games , not being a leader , dejected and even in pressers looking pouty and not confident at all.
Allen is a very emotional individual. Great quarter backs like Mahones and Brady are cool calm and focused. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. ALLEN IS A SPACE CADET THIS YEAR
Yes sir! I thought I was being a diva for thinking the same thing to myself. Glad I'm not the only notice. I don't like this new Josh. Man, I'm more worry about his well being as a human than being the saver for this franchise.
@@vivienneduong6541agree 👍
Call me crazy (not a pun) I think the Bills need to get Josh a personal sports psychologist yesterday! There's been a disconnect for him since the end of last season and someone needs to help him work through whatever it is!
Brett Favr-itis? 😂😂😂
He’s been quoted in interviews saying he wanted to be more “chill” and not so hyped up like years past. Neutered Josh Allen sucks worse than Adrenaline Junkie Josh.
Whatever psychologist he has now sucks!
He is a quarter billionaire he doesn't care win or lose lol he has a Hollywood GF and an illegitimate kid he's big time now lol
@@xbreachedthetosx7591 Steven Wright-itis?
Been saying it since week 2. It's like he has no fire in the belly, you can see it in his eyes. You're 100% correct imo
here's another coaching change that is needed asap : McDermitt elevates another coach to the position of DC and McDermitt concentrates on being the head coach.
And bench Josh
Nah. McDermott is a terrific DC. Let him do that. He has essentially demoted himself back to the place where he excels. But we still need a HC who understands Offense.
@@mazzvidz are you freaking high? You bench Josh is a top 5 QB in league PERIOD. Bench him for? Stop smoking whatever you smoking and learn the game. PERIOD.
@@Juniormoreau People are absolutely off their rockers. Even when Josh plays bad, he is still better than 3/4 of the league.
The bills vibes may be low but that Buffalo Plus Studio is giving!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Mike Catalana is my favorite Buffalo analyst. Always provides a sense of wisdom.
The studio is killer, I love seeing you all together!🎉
I agree with Dan’s comment: “This sucks.” Last year the Bills were 13-3 and had high expectations… and now, panic mode.
I think we need an emergency intervention on Mike’s mic levels!
Dorsey's temper tantrum when the Bill's lost in Miami last year was a warning sign; showed a lack of maturity; simply not ready to fill the role of OC.
I appreciate you guys. It's been very rough for all of us Bills fans, and I know that includes the 3 of you, but you still show up, level headed, and just talk us through all of it. Thank you!
Love the comment, give it to Diggs until he throws up!!!😂😂😂
Got that right Dan! Dorsey done crashed that ferrari into the tree across the street!
Alright I have more thoughts than I can say about Dorsey than I can put to words here, BUT OOOH BABY LOOK AT THIS NEW STUDIO ITS LOOKIN GOOD LETS GO BUFFALO PLUS
Always wait for your take on things. Nice studio, but don't get too glossy on us. We love all the quirkiness and fun of this show 😄
I must say. Dan's analogy nailed it. Elite teams need Elite coaches.
Thank you for the emergency pod. Great discussion. Hope you all get a good nights sleep. Glad Dorsey is gone. Hope Josh can get back to elite play this season. Go Bills
I hope I never see a draw play near the goal line again!😊
I've been waiting .. thanks for staying on top of things for us.
Been waiting too!
Great set. Audio needs a bit of a tweak.
This was a very therapeutic discussion for me. Thank you!
LOL
Love the new studio. I have faith the voice sound quality will improve with time. Thanks for talking us through the roller coaster ride of a season.
We may have to bring in ... Belichick next season as HC. Wow
Congrats on the studio. This feels like the first domino to fall. Realistically, there is little chance for the Bills to turn it around this year. Going forward there are probably gonna be big changes.
Nice, an actual studio is better than a green screen.
No longer chosen by Josh for a coordinator. Seeking new blood with fresh ideas. Prioritizing under-center, screen passes, counter-blocking for run plays, and motion.
Great episode. Bills fans saved money watching podcast instead of special visit to psychologist.
Great show guys, thank you!
Love you Guys! Excited to see what's next couldn't be any worse!
nobody circle the wagons like the BUFFALO BILLS!
Nice studi! I was at the game what a drag. The defense is good though. This should have happened in the off season
You guys are great!✨ New to the channel and glad to be a viewer! Your talking points are succinct.
These three are like a little family. We have grumpy old Dad (Mike) and a sibling rivalry with the two kids (Dan and Jenna). The chemistry is beautiful. My entire family and most of my friends run on snark! As for the firing of Dorsey, it had to be done. The offense is way too predictable. A couple of weeks ago they quickened the pace with the hurry up offense. I've heard that the players love it and the defense doesn't get to make substitutions as easily. Every time they employ the hurry up offense they take off and score. Against Cincinnati they opened with it and then they stopped using it until the fourth quarter. When they started using it again they scored quickly. So, where was it last night? I wanted Dorsey gone last year. McD is doing a good job with what he has to work with on defense due to the injuries but it's taking his time away from what is going on on the field when the offense is out there. Why didn't they just hire a defensive coordinator when Leslie Frazier quit last year? As for twelve men on the field during the field goal.....that was a failure all the way around. Whatever player, on the field, that is responsible for doing the count fell down on the job and the coaches evidently weren't paying attention. End result.....the Bills beat themselves all by themselves last night. Next season we have to start out with a new offensive coordinator and a new defensive coordinator. This team has been giving my ulcers since I started following them 50 years ago.
Daaaaaamm! You guys are stepping the production game up! I love it. Now all you need is a content strategist and you’ll really start moving up the ranks.
They gotta fix the mics
they will. that's an easy fix. They also need to get everyone in focus on their wide shot, again, easy fixes all around.@@orion5436
Love the BRAND NEW POD studio ~ Enjoying the content!!
No defenses fear Buffalo's run game, so they focus on the passing game.
It's not rocket science.
So you need to ask why haven't they committed to building a running game for 6 or 7 years & who's resposible.
They wanted to win on Allen's arm & they almost did.
But now teams let us run & focus on Allen.
THEY NEED TO RUN!
IT'S FOOTBALL 101
The " keys to the Ferrari to a guy with a learners permit " comment works for my Chargers as well !! Good luck with your fix , I hope we follow with a Staley pink slip !!!
Great show, solid episode. Look, here's the BUFFALO issue in a nutshell: "Afraid to Win". It's pretty much been this way from jump. Let's not go back to the old days, rather keep it in the JA17 era. The have been who for lack of better term, gathered the parts they needed, with the budget they had, on paper looks good, but like time and time again, they are flat out afraid to drop the hammer, throw the knock out, not in "a game", but as a "mindset". Josh is a gourment chef, and you have the hostess having him make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for dinner. Josh is not lost, he's been reprogrammed to be afaid (to win). Kind of like a lion, in the wild, put into a cage and spoon feed meals ... Just let the big dog eat, throw, run, crash, hurdle ... play his game. Firing Dorsey, okaym, that's like trying to lose weight and ordering a diet coke with your burger and fries, but, I guess it's a start. You want to win it all, stop being afraid of it. That said, take care, stay safe and Go Bills! Still my team, all the way from Arizona!
Very good coverage on this! I appreciate you greatly.
Btw, I like the studio set-up.
#GoBills.
~Dex™.
Look forward to your podcasts. You all express what many of us are thinking. Josh needs to hurdle, run, slide...just be himself.
Love you guys and always great content.
Congrats on the new studio, well deserved!
Love the new digs!!! Some depth of field issues on camera i.e. ya'll are a little blurry and mics sound distorted. But otherwise Buffalo Plus leveling up. I feel bad for Ken, hope he lands somewhere and continues to grow professionally, seem like a good guy who gave it his all.
Never been this early, will wait for the 1080p version to finish processing
I’m not super old but I was there for the 4 super bowls before that was Joe Ferguson. Joe was a very good qb and held all bills records before Kelly. My point is Josh is turning into Joe Ferguson when Joe lost it it looks just like Josh now. They even made the helmets red to help Ferguson because the afc all had white helmets if we go to red helmets so Josh dosent throw interceptions the we jumped the shark.
Great discussion. Thanks..!
Bills need to start wearing those Navy Blue jerseys as punishment until they win a game.
The one thing the media wont touch, And id love to hear there there thoughts on that and how it translates to the field. We all know what went on in his house about a year ago. And it seems like he’s been a different player ever since.
The kid with the rally cap doesn't understand that we need to establish the running game and keep that going. THAT will make for easier 3rd down conversions (if needed) AND free up Allen's ability to throw the ball. Our biggest problem is we've become way too predictable. We need a balance between the running and passing game and to mix it up a lot more. "Feed diggs until he throws up"....dafuq you talkin about??
How about the receivers catching the balls?? So many problems, Dan there are no easy throws for this team.
Thanks for the emergency podcast tonight for your views. Love you guys!
Studio looks cool! Thanks for the content. NYC Bills fan
Love this setup guys!! I had someone tell me it’s not a Dorsey issue. They say it’s a McDermott issue.. I just do not see it right now because of the success Sean has had.
Great Set guys!
I agree completely that Ken Dorsey was "a dead man walking" this season -- whether he was fired now, at the bye break, or after the season ... UNLESS the Bills' offense FINALLY caught fire, became more creative, put its best players in the best position to succeed and stopped being so predictable. Taking it a step further, I believe the ONLY way the Bills' offense was going to improve after nearly 2 years of this O-C was going to be to GET HIM SOME HELP because he has clearly been "in over his head" AS an O-C (at least at THIS point in his career). Dorsey IS a VERY SMART guy, and I believe he has a chance -- with more seasoning -- eventually to become an effective O-C. He was given as much "slack" as possible (probably a bit more than prudent), but the Bills' season has pretty much "run out of runway" -- and IF it has ANY CHANCE of being "saved," it will require the Bills going 7-0 (at WORST 6-1) down the stretch in the hardest part of their schedule. IMO, because SOOOO MANY tiebreakers are against the Bills in the AFC wild card chase, the Bills really need to finish 12-5 (and secure an automatic playoff berth the AFC East champion) in order to salvage a shot at the playoffs. I truly believe that an 11-6 Bills team will NOT be able to secure a wild card spot in the AFC (and even that would require going 6-1 in the final 7 games).
Anyway, for several weeks I had advocated McDermott and Beane getting Dorsey some HELP to improve his insight and coaching performance as an O-C. An ideal assistant such as a retired Chan Gailey might have made a huge difference in turning Dorsey around and making the Bills' offense more effective. Gailey was always able to get the most out of a "more physically limited/less raw talented" Ryan Fitzpatrick, and he always built a solid running game. That's the ONLY other thing McDermott and Beane could have done to help Dorsey, but that ship has sailed.
One additional thing: McDermott is NOT "blameless" at all for this disaster of a season -- losing to too many of the supposed "easier" teams on the schedule (we should have beaten the Jets, Patriots, and Broncos ... and even "if" we had nonetheless lost a "jet-lagged game" to a rested Jacksonville team and a tightly played contest AT Cincinnati, we'd still be 8-2 and in command of the AFC East if not the conference). Yet it's only Dorsey who is "walking the plank" for EVERYBODY's FAILURES as well as his own. IF McDermott FAILS to get the Bils into the playoffs, I think he should be fired too -- not "just" for such an abysmal season, but also for presiding over the RUINATION of once-elite "franchise QB" Josh Allen.
Love this podcast!😊
Dan - the bills need to establish a running game to open up the passing game! If every team knows the bills aren’t a threat to run, then great - they rush can rush 4 every snap, take a gash every once in a while, and cover 3-4 receiver packages with 7 guys in the secondary and no shot for the boys to get open. No run game is a scheme issue and needs to be fixed, and having some open receivers will BUILD Josh’s confidence!
I do agree with you but there have been times when there was people wide open and Josh didn't throw to them. Josh needs to take some heat for how he has been playing. Same with our recievers dropping balls when they're targeted.
I may be behind on the times but I LOVE this studio!
Ya looks great
When's the last time a team fired a OC/DC in the season and still made a run into the postseason? It seems like they are calling this season and moving onto next.
2012 Ravens, fired OC during the season and won the Superbowl
It comes down to if Dorsey stays do the Bills get to 10 wins. I certainly can't see that happening so it might as well happen now.
Yea, sort of. My take on this is they're saying "lets see how coach X works for the team. Let's see how coach Y works." Like a trial period before the next season starts and you're committed to another Dorsey. Plus the fact that currently, IMO, it can't be worse. Any new coach that fills the shoes there will NOT be scouted by future teams we play. Has to be VERY difficult to game plan for. So...again, IMO it has to be a positive thing here.
But sure, the season is over and we all know that.
Doesn't matter theirs no run coming, season is over
Love the room!
Love the studio!!
Love the new set!!! Great job!!!!!!
Dan's metaphors and analogies are class love them
Is that the new studio!? C'mon Jen, get that place decorated for the holidays😄😃
Instead of the plastic Fox Sports cup on that back corner shelf there, put a Dan was Right mug back there (or Dan was wrong) if you prefer
You three, don't listen to the national sports media. Right here is where the take is. The national sports media should be watching Buffalo plus for accurate content!
Love the new studio. I wish this team would play better and the coaches would do their jobs. 12 men on the field, so stupid.
Like the new studio and as always, love your concise insightful content, but one thing- those humongous mic cranes have to go. Way too distracting. Way too big. Try another setup. Also- the audio needs some touch up. Thanks again for what you all do for us as fans!
I TOTALLY agree!!!!
I was actually thinking the same thing: the mic stands are too big. Can't you get something smaller? And Jenna's mic wasn't picking her up as well as it ought. And where ARE the mugs? But most importantly of all, I wanted to add: I don't get the whole playing a clip from the broadcast at the very beginning before the title graphics. It's not working for me, personally. What's the purpose? Just start the show! But, all in all, yeah, now you look like real "professionals"! 😊 Broadcasting from your homes is so Covid-y.
Wow the studio is looking crazy
Sick studio! Congrats!
That awesome new podcast, good for you guys you deserve it
Much appreciated! Thank you William!
I see an 8-9 or 7-10 season ending record for the season. I hope Beane and Pegula Fire McDermott and get a good Offensive Coordinator or Offensive coach to be the new Head Coach to help Allen and the Offense.
Love your new dig!😊
hi bills fam. i think it is now time for me to speak up. i don't think that the issue is Sean. It was absolutely Dorsey and his inability to use his weapons effectively. i mean come on the found the rythym a little bit with the hurry up why didn't they continue with it ? Dorsey had to go so maybe now we can salvage a wild card spot and that is by far where I expected ti be. I still think that the bills can makethe playoffs but they MUST make Josh be Josh. if running for the first down is what it takes then do it. More importantly they must take some pressure of him by RUNNING the ball. We have cook and fournette plus Murray. RUN THE DAMN BALL!!!!!!!!!
Yes. Let Josh be Josh. He is an elite player. Stop taking away what makes him the player we know he is. Management is the problem. 😊Not Josh!
Nice analogy in the beginning about the Ferrari
Long time subscriber. I absolutely love your new space! You guys are great 😂 but I agree with everything you said. To me, they look like they’re in a practice.
Recapped the day pretty well. The new studio works great! Just need to work on the audio levels.
So here are my thoughts, 1) Teams, analysts and players have all said in the last year plus that the Bills have been more than predictable on offense, that stems from one place during that time, Dan Orlovsky said it himself, 2) Joe Brady was on a lot of teams radar to become an OC. I think that the Bills realized that they may have the solution in house, and that they needed to jump on it and fire Dorsey to promote Joe Brady before someone else did. 3) Yes, Josh was instrumental in Dorsey becoming the OC, but I am sure that even he would admit that being predictable isn't good. He had even said in recent interviews that they were trying to run the plays that they were given.
Honestly, This is the start of a solution, but I am missing the passion for the game and winning. I swear if I here complimentary football one more time my brain will explode. There has to be some expression of emotion by the players and coaches. They cannot keep that crap bottled up. It will choke them out. Josh is elite, McD is the coach that has gotten us to the playoffs. Can both improve, yes, absolutely, but they are the plan for now. Moving forward, Sean needs to promote Brady permanently, if he can right the offense and then find another proven DC so that he can get back to managing the team and not focusing on the defense. Delegation works if you have the right people to delegate the work to.
A lot of great takes! Sean McDermott needs to be a full time Head Coach!!! It was a huge mistake for him Sean to spread himself so thin in his main job, of Being a Head Coach! This downfall has been shocking to see! It’s been so difficult living in western New York and the Bills seem to always find a way to self implode!
Amazing studio! Congratulations
New studio looks great!
Great studio guys really digging it
71 interceptions in 6 years... That's a telling stat.
Love the studio! Great content and fair and honest evaluation as always.
Can someone look into the audio quality though? Too much gain maybe?
Working on it! We appreciate the feedback, we'll get it right! Thanks for watching 😀 - Jenna
Dans right on the Daboll scheme. That’s it there’s 2 or 3 plays that will always work and get Josh on track for every game there were those plays built for the team they were playing. In 25 games there was never the part built in. Let’s ask Joe Brady if he can do that week by week? And us as a fan base has to get behind the choice until it’s time to not.
Love the studio
Wow, what a heavy topic to break in the pod room.
Great looking space
While Dorsey is not the only person to blame for the current state of the Bills, I feel relieving him of his duties as OC was the right move. Something had to be done and this just makes the most sense since Joe Brady can easily step up to be the interim OC.
Josh Allen needs his own "Taylor Swift" to get it off his desk~! 🤣
So pissed last night. So happy today. He needed to go 6 months ago.
Agreed - Dorsey needed to go. The next thing that needs to happen is for us to figure out how to get our franchise QB to stop giving the ball to the other team more frequently than any other player in the NFL.
@@axnjaxn2229that's a whole nother problem yikes
How about use the run game to control the clock and help the defense. The defense might make a stop in the 4th if they weren’t on the field 38 min a game.
I love the new studio!!!! Love it:)!! Let’s try to hang some silver and gold youtube plates in very near future :)!
ohh love that! Thanks for watching! - Jenna
Love the set Dan Was right about Dorsey
Well I can see a point in time where Josh gets pulled for bad play. Sometimes it takes that to wake a QB up.
Literally the only Buffalo Channel i watch now. I started to unfollow the others. This is straight facts and educated opinions, not the other nonsense people just puke outta their mouths. Great job love the new place!
Wow studio looks nice. Doing big things
How about not constantly being in “3rd and 9” situations as well, Mike? This offense is so frustrating. I miss the rollout option passes we used to Run where Allen would either tuck it and run, off the boot, or hit Knox over the top of a linebacker, or Gabe on a deep shot. 😢
love the view!!!!!!! Go Billss!!!!!
Love the new space!!!
When we drafted Kincaid… I thought, “What a neat weapon for us not to use like all the others.”
I said it during the second half of the GB game last year, “Fire Dorsey.” I trusted Ken Dorsey to innovate, be creative, and recreate any resemblance of the Gronk/Hernandez tandem as much as I trust him to run a Denny’s. I didn’t.
LOVE the new diggs!!! ( YES, pun intended.. ) seriously, the new area looks great!
Looooooooove the new studio ❤