I can’t see that multi tool on the Triton website! Is it a prototype you guys have got, or is it available to buy in the UK? Any chance of a model number or link please? Thanks!
One thing you didn't show for us lowly newbs using those types of tools and burrs is how much they can and do jump around. Be aware of this when trying to use these type tools in areas where cosmetic damage potential is high. Once you have practice and have a feel for that then this is a viable method to do many many things with guitar carving
These are just the most useful tools! I got my first one from my grandfather, and despite that being almost forty years ago, and my using them all the time, I’m pretty sure I’ve only ever owned two of them! The first one was a Dremel. clone from Montgomery Ward’s and I think I replaced it about twenty years ago when the bearings finally failed. I’ve only recently contemplated replacing my current Dremel, but then I think, “Nah, it’s fine.” Maybe someday I’ll get my third!
Or: Pillar drill with forstner bit, just have to mount the guitar solidly without damaging finish. Centering and depth are set by location / mounting of guitar and height of base plate. Both better options for someone who prefers to measure than work "by eye". My eye is not as accurate as my measuring tools, at least not yet... Can then round over edge by hand if you want to make it look nice.
This is usually why I go for a cavity depth that leaves 4 to 3.5mm of top thickness. Fits pots perfectly. Of course in this build I saw that there are extensions for the cavity cover screws that would interfere with using the original template, or using the cavity walls as a template. So in this case the guitar's design made it impossible. Also, there's wiring already. Routers and wiring = messy routing. Think of this as a fix to a last minute problem.
When I was doing pattern work for a foundry we would put anti-shift buttons on the board to line up the cope and drag. Freeman foundry supply makes match-lok counterbore which seems be perfectly handy in this situation.
Interesting solution. Since the back is flat I'd have used a handheld router and a router bit with bearings to copy the shape of the affected sides and prevent any damage.
Perfect timing, this is literally the next job on my build. I was going to go in the right direction, using Dremel and fled shaft, but would probably have used a sanding attachment, so I now know better!
I literally JUST blasted through the top of my first scratch build with a forstner bit attempting to get a switch to fit, then saw this video. At least I know for next time lol
I really recommend using jewelery rotary tools (like Grobet or Foredom) instead. It is more safe and precise when controlling speed with foot, not just on-off by hand.
Why did it sound like someone saying "nooooo nonono nooooooooo!!" when Ben was carving out the pot hole? Almost like the guitar was pleading for the torture to stop 🤣
Just an open question, since someone in here probably tried it already: Couldn't you eliminate the "center wobble" with a plug and thus be able to use a forstner drill bit?
this little Triton Multitool is a Dremel on steroids. I wish they had introduced that neat tool two years earlier. I would have bought it instead of my Dremel.
Turns out that a ground up rebuild of the website I'd taking longer than expected.. however launch is confirmed first the end of the month and I am super excited! Sorry for the delay!
They just looked blurry to me.. 😉 Don't know why they keep using motion blur when trying to show detailed work... Could be camera, could be edit, but should either keep still / use different cam if it's camera and not go for "cinematic" when editing...
This is harmful method and should be avoided. You need something uniformly flat for this operation. I'd go with Forstner bit anyway, or would make special bit for this job, and you have to do it on stable boring mill. The thing is that pot hole must be very flat and in parallel with outer surface, because otherwise the pot axis will bent and the pot won't operate correctly (the pot internals will go off the groove which leads to lose contact, noise and clicks). Then it may be 'workarounded' only by loosing the pot nut and making it like barely fixed in place...
It’s really not that hard mate. You could do it with a knife if you had to. A chisel would work too. No one is going to see it, it doesn’t have to be perfect. As long as the pot sits nicely it’s fine
Why? Nobody learns on the job solely by themselves having to figure things out. You learn from experience or you learn from other people with experience. Either teachers, older co workers, or from tutorials. If you're not allowed to learn from other people or asking for help that would be incredibly inefficient.
I guess you were just "born" with all of the knowledge needed to build guitars and a genius level of problem solving. I went to school to become a luthier, realizing afterwards that it was just an introduction. The following years of trial and error, reading, and asking questions were where the problem solving knowledge base was accumulated.
In some parts of the world the 😉 icon is a sign that things should be taken lightly, with a grain of salt, not too literally or with pun ontended. Or all of the above…. ‘Why so serious’ as a movie character once said And yes, I was born with all the knowledge of mankind in general and luthiers especially
I can’t see that multi tool on the Triton website! Is it a prototype you guys have got, or is it available to buy in the UK? Any chance of a model number or link please? Thanks!
This is a prototype and not on sale yet. Ben is a brand ambassador and gets to test the new tools before they are released to the public. DC
Drill a hole through a piece of MDF (or something) with a Forstner bit, right distance from the edge, and use that to hold the Forstner bit in place.
We did this all the time for cutting grommet holes in desk tops. Just be sure to anchor the jig so it doesn't move
That is the COOLEST adjustable wrench I've ever seen! So much want
One thing you didn't show for us lowly newbs using those types of tools and burrs is how much they can and do jump around. Be aware of this when trying to use these type tools in areas where cosmetic damage potential is high. Once you have practice and have a feel for that then this is a viable method to do many many things with guitar carving
These are just the most useful tools! I got my first one from my grandfather, and despite that being almost forty years ago, and my using them all the time, I’m pretty sure I’ve only ever owned two of them! The first one was a Dremel. clone from Montgomery Ward’s and I think I replaced it about twenty years ago when the bearings finally failed.
I’ve only recently contemplated replacing my current Dremel, but then I think, “Nah, it’s fine.” Maybe someday I’ll get my third!
I love the jack socket placement design on this.
I try all the parts before I put on the finish. But, I'm not a professional!
Why not simply route the cavity bigger using the original cavity template, or the cavity itself as the template?
I was thinking that. Tape up the surface to stop it getting damaged. Job's a good'n
Or: Pillar drill with forstner bit, just have to mount the guitar solidly without damaging finish. Centering and depth are set by location / mounting of guitar and height of base plate. Both better options for someone who prefers to measure than work "by eye". My eye is not as accurate as my measuring tools, at least not yet... Can then round over edge by hand if you want to make it look nice.
This is usually why I go for a cavity depth that leaves 4 to 3.5mm of top thickness. Fits pots perfectly. Of course in this build I saw that there are extensions for the cavity cover screws that would interfere with using the original template, or using the cavity walls as a template. So in this case the guitar's design made it impossible. Also, there's wiring already. Routers and wiring = messy routing. Think of this as a fix to a last minute problem.
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Yes. Could also be that customer changed spec at late stage, the three below are cut to depth already.
@@stephenkeen6044 I get the impression its a student guitar build.
Crimson dental plan with Dr Ben 😂
When I was doing pattern work for a foundry we would put anti-shift buttons on the board to line up the cope and drag. Freeman foundry supply makes match-lok counterbore which seems be perfectly handy in this situation.
Interesting solution. Since the back is flat I'd have used a handheld router and a router bit with bearings to copy the shape of the affected sides and prevent any damage.
Haha just had to do that today and I used forstener bit :) had luck i guess but nex time I will shure use this method :) thanks for all the knowlege
I filled the hole temporarily and used forstners. Always worked, but Ben's method is good, too.
That's the same way I do it except that I rig up a shop vac and have the hose close to the work. It helps quite a bit to keep the dust to a minimum.
Perfect timing, this is literally the next job on my build. I was going to go in the right direction, using Dremel and fled shaft, but would probably have used a sanding attachment, so I now know better!
*flex*
I literally JUST blasted through the top of my first scratch build with a forstner bit attempting to get a switch to fit, then saw this video. At least I know for next time lol
1:37 - No, my first thought is to grab a trim router and a template bit.
Clamp the guitar to a table and use an end mill in a drill press; two minutes, perfect control and a perfectly round/sharp/squared hole.
Awsome looking guitar.whats the wiring setup with the 2 blade switch and mini toggles.
nice output jack placement :)
I’ll probably get in trouble for saying this but I’m sure that there are longer shaft potentiometers from places like StuMac
Am I the only one who could hear 'No, No' No' from while ben was carving?
Absolutely!
I really recommend using jewelery rotary tools (like Grobet or Foredom) instead. It is more safe and precise when controlling speed with foot, not just on-off by hand.
I want that spanner
I'd just spend all day looking at the mechanism.
Yes you are 🥰 And so modest too 😇
Isn't a counterbore the correct tool for this job Ben?
I probably would’ve used a hole bit on a drill and used a chunk of wood as a guide/brace so I could go slow.
Ben great tip Thanks
Why did it sound like someone saying "nooooo nonono nooooooooo!!" when Ben was carving out the pot hole? Almost like the guitar was pleading for the torture to stop 🤣
That's exactly what I was hearing! 😂
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Thought was smart and tried with forstner bit on drill press, still moved about.
I would think a forstner bit in a drill press would be the easiest and much quicker too.
I cannot find the Triton cordless rotary tool on their website. Is actually available yet ?
Just get yourself a Dremel kit, they're excellent
Just an open question, since someone in here probably tried it already: Couldn't you eliminate the "center wobble" with a plug and thus be able to use a forstner drill bit?
He does mention that and it was also my first thought. And would be my first choice.
@@johngrant5749 He does? Well, obviously I wasn't paying attention. 😄Thanks for pointing it out!
In the us we call them dremels, a multi tool we call the oscillating type.
Never has one man tried so hard not to say the word Dremel.
Seriously though, how much for the wrench?
doesn't this just bring back dental memories...I'll stick with my forstner.
mmmm Hovis bread :)
Just occurred to me I could just use my old beloved pin router to do this
Why did that carving burr keep saying, "Naaaaa naaaaaaaaaaa naaa naaaaa naaaaaaaaaaa!"?
Guitar top too thick for pots ... FIXED
Got any tips for "player too thick for guitar" ? 🤔
ISOTunes vs Raycon. Fight!
Ouch!!! Reminds me of my dentist!! 🦷
Dentist anyone😂
this little Triton Multitool is a Dremel on steroids. I wish they had introduced that neat tool two years earlier. I would have bought it instead of my Dremel.
Advert for Triton me thinks.
Always is 😂
110%. Rotary tool is the very last thing Id be reaching for to get this job done....
@@BBGuitars same as.
...and rinse.
Blue LEDs are a sign of cheapness! They are vile for the eye! 🤭
nothing like a bit of cavity work with a dentist tool hey ?
April 13 2023. Still no ggbo 2023 announcement
Turns out that a ground up rebuild of the website I'd taking longer than expected.. however launch is confirmed first the end of the month and I am super excited! Sorry for the delay!
Those maple leaves look kinda sketchy imo
They just looked blurry to me.. 😉 Don't know why they keep using motion blur when trying to show detailed work... Could be camera, could be edit, but should either keep still / use different cam if it's camera and not go for "cinematic" when editing...
Dentist!
Guitar Dentistry!
just do what they do.. remove da wood
Can’t use a forstener bit because it’ll jump around… isn’t this why god gave us pillar drills?
A bit of a bodge, should have planned the build properly
Why can't you just say multiple time instead of multitudinous times? It'd be more accurate
Sounds like the dentists.....
I’d just use a budget tool , triton to expensive especially when the west are devaluing just about every currency in the world
Is it just me, or does the wood sound like it's crying no...no...no...no...no... when he's grinding on it.
This is harmful method and should be avoided.
You need something uniformly flat for this operation. I'd go with Forstner bit anyway, or would make special bit for this job, and you have to do it on stable boring mill. The thing is that pot hole must be very flat and in parallel with outer surface, because otherwise the pot axis will bent and the pot won't operate correctly (the pot internals will go off the groove which leads to lose contact, noise and clicks). Then it may be 'workarounded' only by loosing the pot nut and making it like barely fixed in place...
I've avoided that mistake by never building a guitar. Don't try it.
TRITON copying the good old Dremel?
Just like at the dentist
Just with less pain and fear
Be a guy with decades of experience so your can carve it perfectly free hand isn't really a tutorial.
It’s really not that hard mate. You could do it with a knife if you had to. A chisel would work too. No one is going to see it, it doesn’t have to be perfect. As long as the pot sits nicely it’s fine
you need a shave mate
People who can’t come up with solutions like this on their own should stay far away from guitar building or repair…😉
Why? Nobody learns on the job solely by themselves having to figure things out. You learn from experience or you learn from other people with experience. Either teachers, older co workers, or from tutorials. If you're not allowed to learn from other people or asking for help that would be incredibly inefficient.
Also, not everyone needs to be a master. It's useful to have a few journeymen around so the master can do the trickier stuff.
honestly, if you think that THIS is a solution....
I guess you were just "born" with all of the knowledge needed to build guitars and a genius level of problem solving. I went to school to become a luthier, realizing afterwards that it was just an introduction. The following years of trial and error, reading, and asking questions were where the problem solving knowledge base was accumulated.
In some parts of the world the 😉 icon is a sign that things should be taken lightly, with a grain of salt, not too literally or with pun ontended. Or all of the above….
‘Why so serious’ as a movie character once said
And yes, I was born with all the knowledge of mankind in general and luthiers especially
Why use a battery operated tool when you are attaching a flexible shaft anyway? And then talk about using the proper tool for the job? Yikes!
Gibson long shaft will work.