I am trying to reach my word count on my essay, that is to say that what my goal in engaging in the forming of this extended statement is, is to ensure that the requirement being enforced upon me by my educational institution of reaching a certain amount of conglomerates of alphabetical characters having been typed is met or surpassed.
He didn't even read the book. He did the equivalent of like read the first 5 lines of the Lord of the Rings over and over again and goes "Isn't this one ring kinda sketchy? Man I wish they'd tell us more about this one ring!" is the most aggravating part. He has a 25 minute opening statement and spends it literally just repeating the same 6 buzz words over and over again and grandstanding. "He wants to redefined our biological identities!" "Cool, what does that mean?" "Well he's kind of vague.... But Prince Harry and other scary people said resetting our economy after a crisis is good!" which is code for "I didn't read past the scary buzzwords." I imagine if he actually read past the foreword for whatever this Claus guy's beliefs are this debate would've had some merit, instead it was listening to a guy speak for like a fucking hour repeating the same shit surface level buzzword shit, and acting incredulous at being asked questions. Actually reading the book would've given this debate an actual topic lol
Right!!! Did he answer a single question.. he’s a master deflector! Such a clown this Tristan guy. I’ve never heard someone use so many Buzzwords in my life.
@@lightbeforethetunnel I mean considering any time Destiny tried to discuss him any further, Tristian refused to continue the conversation because Destiny is an atheist and doesn't believe in objective moral truth. I'd say yeah. This debate ground to an absolute halt any time Destiny tried to ask him what his thoughts on individual aspects of the conversation was, and Tristian always tried to drag it back to meta ethical discussions on pre suppositionalist bullshit. If his position is that no one can have a position on the great reset, unless they believe in god, then the debate subject should've been "Can you have morals under an athiest world view?" or he could exclusvely debate other religious people. Instead he wasted everyone's time saying nothing with the only person in the room who wasn't sick of him by the end of it was Pedro - who also is a presuppositionalist. Like damn, even getting the guy to answer the question "Do you think this is bad?" "YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A STRAW MAN ARGUMENT AND TELL ME WHAT I BELIEVE!" shit. You have to be delusional or lying to think anyone but Tristian was dodging questions.
hes saying bad atheist in charge are going to control people through any idea that is a new idea. he just said that over and over using a collection of words.
@@TheMrTangamandapio And it clearly paid off. It confused the opponent that the beta male was somehow immune to his alpha energy. The "beta" in Destiny is just a facade for his true form of Sigma male which he uses to counter with simple questions, without any signs of hostility and takes control of the conversation.
@@weldshop8499 This is my 3rd time watching this debate. Its very calming to listen to while working and knowing it delays into chaos. If played correctly, I should be able to listen the chaos while driving.
@@roharbaconmoo Lol this guy is clearly not very bright lol you can tell someone told him everything he’s regurgitating like a child lol. He can’t even defend his positions. He’s just not smart lol he’s pretty dull. Completely incapable of independent thinking 😂 This guy was excruciating 😂 he’s the perfect example of “it’s hard to debate an intelligent person but impossible to debate a stupid person.”
@@illkissyourightnow That happens when youre an idiot and get entangled into a conspiracy.. it is really urgend to you, even though you know nothing about it...
What do you mean, bro the industrial revolution of the product of the system is a new man reset is not only under but dehumanizing Brendan Schaub clout Brendan Claus, Schwab, Brennan, Claude, Santa Claus
Just watched this for the first time. Something i have experienced with some of the more religious people is their inability to recognize mental issues if they are hyperfocused on religious concepts. This man seems schizophrenic with grandiose looping thoughts that are keyed into words but not attached to actual meaning. Something like this happened with someone i know and any concerns i raised about it were dismissed because i am not a believer in Jesus. If i were, i would understand what receiving messages from God can be like. Anyway, she eventually shaved her head and tried to cross the border on her way to south America to heal their nations and that's when the family decided maybe she needed lithium.
@@johnwatts8346 do you think he's correct that he beat Destiny in the debate? 🤔 because I just heard him ramble absolute nonsense in circles over and over again, getting pissy when anyone countered anything he said lol
This wouldn’t be such a strange question to pose to a mereological nihilist like Destiny who believes all categories are mere useful fictions, including the categories of male and female.
I have to wonder if the question was meant to tease Destiny for having asked moments before for a definition of "stakeholder." While still eyeroll-inducong, it's at least less nutty.
This is the entertainment you can only get from Destiny. 2.5 hours of absolutely nothing really being said and watching someone act like an irreparable psycho while Destiny sits there looking like he’s unsure if he wants to commit suicide or homicide.
The word of God is all about the scriptures, man. Trouble is, they were written by humans. I find it fascinating that people still believe in God in 2023. We are so much more easier to brainwash than we realize. Well, the ones who own the media companies certainly realize it. Otherwise they wouldn't have invested in that business.
@@Sandlund93 Exactly... I honestly think the whole bible is a bunch of BS because in today's day and age if you got pregnant without having sex with your husband, would people call it a gift from god or would people just say that the wife is lying about cheating? I think mary is not so virgin mary.
And the perfect example of “it’s hard to debate an intelligent person but impossible to debate a stupid person” 😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ He’s excruciating. He’s definitely been told exactly what to say and think. He’s incapable of thinking for himself.
he also complained about strawman's and then strawmans destiny every chance. Complains about ad hominem and does that as well. Presups aren't worth talking to especially if he says things like evolution is a theory
@@martinhectormartinhector7260 it's just really sad that rhetoricstiny was out in full force (until "does God know what it's like to have a dick in the ass?") and the dude was still hyper defensive and upset. The one good thing about presups is that I think that's what really triggered destiny to start looking into philosophy and being able to engage with these sorts of arguments. Based Darth Dawkins 🙏
Destiny: *breathes* Tristan: You're actually strawmaning the entire right wing - - - - - - - - Tristan: ''I won this 3 times over'' 5 min later Tristan: ''I won this 15 times over'' 10 min later Tristan: ''I won this 5 times over'' Damn, Destiny ALMOST making the comeback from a -15 Win/Loss
This should be the top comment. Destiny turned a blow out into a narrow loss. Only a veteran could have kept their composure and battled against those odds.
Tristan: "The Great Reset is inherently bad" Destiny: "Why do you think it's bad?" Tristan: "That's a false-equivalency strawman ad-hominem. You're debating in bad faith and lost the debate 15 times."
He’s doing that because that’s how he thinks destiny wins debates, “the virgin logically sound argument” VS “the CHAD incoherent schizoid ramblings and misuse of philosophical terminology”
What genuinely makes me agree with Destiny that the guy is unhinged is that he jumped from "you've lost 4 times" to "15 times" after 2 back and forths.
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Destiny is a stupid f____t. Destiny ended the debate. Destiny is a disgrace beyond words.
I love how everyone has to treat Tristan like a baby, lowering their voices and speaking very slowly, just so he can understand what they're asking and so that he doesn't start having another tantrum.
Even holding their hands up when they're trying to calm him down while asking a question and bringing order into the debate Looks like they're being held at gun point, that's how delusional this Tristan guy is
1:21:00 After 20 minutes of trying to avoid it, Destiny caves and explains why meta-ethics is a massive time waste in under 30 seconds. He really tried to pull his punches on this guy and have a real discussion. Legend.
@@rossedwards3623 lol someone butt hurt? You actually think that Tristen chick knew what he was talking about. Keep using words you don’t understand, it’s hilarious. Tristen read a book and gave a report on it without actually understanding what it meant. It’s hilarious to watch. He can’t describe what he doesn’t like about what he says he doesn’t like, because he doesn’t even know what the thing he doesn’t like is. It’s actually amazing to be that dense.
@@rossedwards3623 Destiny is also a video game, and a word in general. He even makes fun of how it’s a girl name, insecure losers who act like middle schoolers I’m sure hold it against him 🤦♂️
27:36 Destiny - "What is an example of a policy you think is a bad idea" Tristan - "was that supposed to be a question" Destiny - "I can write it down with a question mark if you want" Hahaha
Tristan : “All Destiny cares about is winning the debate!” Also Tristan: “I totally won this debate like 15 times over , nothing I said was even wrong”
The part where he goes “I’m only half way through my opening statement” then watching the moderators try to keep it together while chat goes bonkers was hilarious and pretty much foreshadowed how the rest of this debate was going to go down.😂
@@darkleon100 His biggest issue there is he just repeated the same thing over and over again. Claus Schwab said...... He said this in his book called Covid-19, where he said... Just list all the places where he said these things.
I'm only 10 minutes in and I'm already tearing my hair out over how he keeps equivocating between the fourth industrial revolution (the increasing digitization and automation of society and how it changes people's lives) and the great reset (an economic plan for managing the post-covid recovery). He's literally taking descriptions of how humans have been adapting to technological progress and trying to twist them into sounding like some top down government/industry agenda. I can already tell that this is going to be painful to listen to...
@@canyonshep , he stopped pimping rides when cars gained the rights to autonomy on how they can be bought and sold; no need for pimps. Also, the memes never died. Xzibit lives within us... always, and forever.
Tristan: "Do you like cheese?" Destiny: "Generally speaking, cheese is..." Tristan: "Because you say you like cheese and cheese doesn't believe in god and futhermore..." If Tristan was asking the question xD
The bald guy is literally the meme of the guy who's celebrating a victory, throwing his hands up in the air, showering himself in Champaign, all while being in third place.
This guy gave a schizophrenic ramble for 25 minutes, asked for timed responses because he couldn't handle a conversation and then couldn't stop himself interrupting Destiny's timed response for literally 10 seconds... has he talked to people before?
He probably talks to some strangers in subways when they are just trying to commute to work and got stuck in a crowded cart with him and him rambling the 25 schizophrenia speech to them
The moment big papa fascist said “Tristian, you have about 1 min left” after he spoke for over 10 min and Tristian proceeded and said “No, im only half way done and im going to finish” I got literal shivers as I knew I would be in for a treat…
As someone who just finished studying commerce, listening to him misinterpret a concept I am confident my 9 year old cousin would understand is so frustrating.
"You lost 3 minutes in" - a guy who read a book for half an hour as an opening statement and interrupted every response. I wonder what knd of kangaroo university gave this idiot a PHD, because a cockroach in my basement could use a doctorate.
@@ataridc And he managed to convince me of two things: 1. There is no god. If god existed, he'd lightning blast that motherfucker into oblivion. 2. You can be either religious or moral. Can't be both.
@@viziontrex also, anyone falling back on some sort of "principle" (in Tristan's case his morality or how he perceives truth) is already at a loss in terms of a debate or discussion. In my experience, anyone that's done that cannot win a given argument, or even a given point in an argument.
That was my takeaway as well. This guy had the requisite privilege (white, educated) to easily expand his worldview beyond the dumpster, and decided to make his home there instead.
I think Tristan is legitimately unhinged, and will likely go undiagnosed for his entire life. But those piano bits and questions about God’s ‘omniscience’ were some of destiny’s best debate moments. Cracking up over here
@@harl4227 >reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee listen to my unmedicated schizophrenic monologues Sorry bro but the songs you're listening to aren't directly addressing you
Not even that it's happening. That it's being proposed by people who are godless, therefore evil, so the proposal must also be evil. The debate bro in me wants to scream "ad hominem!" from the rooftops.
But don't ask me anything about it, because you aren't argueing with me, you are arguing with this youtube clip im going to find real quick. (Tristen pov)
This man clearly never been in an official debate. If he had, he would know debates are typically won by general perspective of the audience. Who did the audience mostly agree with. I'm an hour and a half into this debate and I still don't know what this man believes in. Although I should message him and thank him for the great book recommendation. I just can't wait for the great reset now!
On one hand: He's either a troll or unhinged. And its amazing content. On the other hand: I hope I don't hear about this guy in the news or ever again.
We all know guys like Tristian. The dude who reads one thing and doesn’t think beyond it so when challenged totally freaks out because it never occurred to him that he may be wrong or limited. Yes we all know guys like Tristian and they always come up to you at a bar they’re in by themselves to “debate” strangers in order to prove themselves.
Hmm... not my take exactly. I think this is more like... an economist (destiny) debates a phillosopher (tristan) and there is a vacuum of common ground. The thing is there is a whole cannon kind of related to these ideas. I haven't read it too wel, but there is like Weber and Marx and Heidegger. Who are all interested in like... how social structures and general phillosophical trends influence thought. It's weird, difficult to falsify, heady stuff. But it's not exactly crazy.
Tristan: asks complete question, and then stops talking. Destiny: "well-" Tristan: "I wasn't done!" I have never wanted to pull my own hair out before but jesus christ
@@_xTASY Most people who have (I think he said 7, PHds) communicate poorly because they have no working knowledge of, nor conviction in, the stance they have cornered themselves into - See MAGA Hogs.
True, any deviation from his envisioned script made him collapse and it revealed how utterly clueless he is. All he had were buzzwords and article titles. The whole stupid meta-ethics debate only happened because it was a deflection when he wasn't able take a position on whether an aspect of the alleged great reset was a good or bad thing and why he thinks that is the case. How can anyone have any meaningful conversation with that dude?
The moderator's answer to the dispute between 2 conflicting revelations demonstrates the problem with revelations. The moderator said in that instance, he would look to external evidence and logical arguments (even if they're unsound). That shows that revelation cannot be the foundation, because the ultimate appeal cannot be to revelation.
yes , there is alot of crazy spitiual sht going on . even one attracting us to continue watching the chaos. its all most unfortunate. honestly neither side was working in good faith. 50 years from now we'll all be like fk! we should of discussed this more. lol
This is the third time I’ve watched this debate since I watched it live and each time I watch it only gets better, funnier and cringier. I don’t know if that Tristan guy was hoping to use this debate to launch his career as a stakeholder in the marketplace of ideas but we haven’t seen him since. This is just top Destiny debating. Chefs kiss 💋
@danpitman5555 this one used to be the most annoying and un-listenable debate, but his most recent debate on the Whatever Podcast easily beats this one. yeouch. sheeeehhh
That was just impressive how much Tristian was projecting the entire time. Nearly every single thing he accused Destiny of, he himself had committed. Or even was commiting while making the accusation. Amazing.
I always find it funny when people complain about destiny talking over them then when they actually get to talk they'd rather bitch about him and insult him with their time
I’m amazed by both of them because Destiny likewise does the same. That guru was right “Democracy is….government….by the people…..of the people….for the people….but…..the people….are retarded…”
“Clearly 2 exists as revealed by scripture but it also doesn’t exist because science and ad hom strawman false equivalency that didn’t answer my question which you lost 15 times in the first 20 seconds… What? I’m answering your question, here’s a Schwabb video”.
Tristan: "Well Klaus Schwab in his book COVID-19: The Great Reset, which I have here in my hand, he referred to the concept of math and numbers such as 2 multiple times, yet he only uses them in vague terms, never outlining clearly what he means by it. So my question for you is if you're okay with understanding the world through methods which have been decided for you by a collection of mathematicians such as Pythagoras, Archimedes, Brahmagupta, al-Khwarizmi, Turing, etc.? You're really okay with having the world's existence dictated to you by anyone except God?"
It couldn't be any debate with Tristan because he couldn't handle his own point of view. I find him a bit scary because of his mental health/condition, he's really out there, delusional at best
Probably not. Most of these guys like him develop these beliefs as coping mechanisms for their vast insecurities. This comment shows it does work a bit though because this is what he wants you to think about him so you don't actually see what a scared pussy he actually is.
@@link212112 I mean I don't exactly think murderers do it because they're filled with confidence lol. I just mean the dude seems unattached from reality and gives off some major "God told me to do it" energy.
It's interesting that this multiple PHD holder doesn't have a single reference to it on his website where he sells $250 1 hour coaching sessions on how eating an all meat diet is good.
yea I was hunting for ANY info on it. Despite his twitter including "PhD" 7 times in the title, and labeled in his name on this debate panel, there is zero information on the content of these anywhere on his site bio's. If these labels are so important to someone's persona you would think information on his accreditations would be moderately easy to locate. I mean dang I have my college listed on most of my social pages and my degree doesn't mean dick. Given even an "accelerated" PhD takes 4 years to complete (many are 8 years), and a nutrition PhD (the most likely one he might have if I'm being charitable) takes 4-6, I' think its safe to assume outside perhaps nutrition, all of these "PhD's" are BS.
@@tramarthomas6105 I think they did a great job, it's a guest in your home turf which almost always leads to accusations of favouritism. Besides, letting him talk a lot gave him plenty of rope. I actually agree with a bunch of this guys concerns and spent half the time yelling "NO DESTINY ISN'T SAYING THAT, GOD I HATE THIS GUY" at my phone like a moron. Maybe not productive but sure was entertaining.
The look in this guy's eyes, his tone of voice, and his body language are all the embodiment of what I don't want to be having a conversation with. I would be worried about a guy like this stabbing me outside a bar if I got into an argument with him. Something is wrong with him, and I don't know what it is.
Having been raised deeply a religious Southern Baptist, it is a sort of psychosis and stern rejection of reality. Trust that instinct because this is a dangerous person. He would absolutely put atheists into camps if it was within his power.
It's what religious fundamentalism looks like. People like that did stone and burn others at the stake not long ago in human history. It was not simpletons who created the reasoning behind it, no, those were the educated ones, like the "PhD" in this video, while simpletons followed them.
A masterclass on how to avoid engaging in any questions while maintaining the elusion of debate victory. Tristan is an elite debate bro and needs to teach this rare tactic to the world.
Nah, it's better than that. He's not laughing nervously, he's laughing proudly, it seems. Whenever his delusions are contested with the kind of speech you'd expect in a coherent debate/discussion, he starts dismissively laughing.
This dude really showed up with a 4th grade presentation and committed to NEVER go from his pre written words so in his mind he could never lose…instead of just talking like a human to another human.
What? This is just blatantly untrue. You're saying Tristan "never went from his pre written words" ... it's absurd. It's just variation of the ever present atheist "I don't understand therefore it's word salad or a script" Ad hominem you guys always deflect with. Do you guys really think we haven't picked up on these tactics and we don't know what you're doing?
@@paleskin5087 Generally, the biggest issue holding atheists back is their inability to engage COHERENTLY with people who don't have the same beliefs/worldview they do. You guys would gain a lot from learning about logical fallacies so you could begin debating COHERENTLY with people you disagree with. Step 1, for the vast majority of Atheists, would be to simply learn about logical fallacies, at least until you're educated enough about them where you can dispute posts you don't agree with in a way that isn't invalid. That's what logical fallacies are: Invalid arguments / responses. Logical fallacies are inadmissible on their face in intellectual forum.
The way Tristan keeps saying "You've lost about 15 times now Destiny" reminds me of a quote from Game of Thrones (ironic). "Any man who must say 'I am the King' is no king at all".
"Okay we have a great show planned today, should be some heated back and forth..." "Yo, mind if I water board your audience with 20 minutes of bullshit before we begin?" "Well I rather you didn't, I mean we..." "In 1792 noted bogapediatitian and tigglesnatcher Hershal C Muhcocksalongdong laid out his 47 principles as to why mixing eggs and rye bread will bring about the apocalypse..." "You're not going to list all 47 are..." "Principle number one! Rye bread is for bitches!"
The sad part is around the 55:00 mark Destiny tries really hard to reach this guy and throw up the flag of peace and continue the discussion, but he just can't seem to understand what's happening. This guy came here to fight with Destiny not debate.
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Probably one of the craziest debates Destiny has had in recent memory.
Always an amazing job August, hope you are having a good day!
@No One he posted a company email he thought was public but was considered doxing by twitch
when i recognized Tristan i knew it was gonna get hairy but i couldn't have predicted this absolute meme-zone
Only 7 minutes in and Tristan constantly smacking his lips is already driving me insane.
This guy should get nominated in the destiny awards ceremony
"This is a man without God, without a soul, in other words, a soulless, godless man" me trying to make my word count on an essay
Tautologies all the way baby
great movie pitch
He's the kind of guy who believes that Nietzsche actually killed the Christian god.
I am trying to reach my word count on my essay, that is to say that what my goal in engaging in the forming of this extended statement is, is to ensure that the requirement being enforced upon me by my educational institution of reaching a certain amount of conglomerates of alphabetical characters having been typed is met or surpassed.
Well God told me that "The Great Reset" was good, so that Jesus can come back and save everyone...
"The Great Reset" is this guy's brain every time Destiny asks a question.
I think I need a similar great reset just for sitting through this.
LMAOOOOOOOOO
lmfao good one!
good one
Hah
I can’t believe Tristan read a book for 30 minutes and then refused to answer a question about it for two hours
He didn't even read the book. He did the equivalent of like read the first 5 lines of the Lord of the Rings over and over again and goes "Isn't this one ring kinda sketchy? Man I wish they'd tell us more about this one ring!" is the most aggravating part. He has a 25 minute opening statement and spends it literally just repeating the same 6 buzz words over and over again and grandstanding.
"He wants to redefined our biological identities!" "Cool, what does that mean?" "Well he's kind of vague.... But Prince Harry and other scary people said resetting our economy after a crisis is good!" which is code for "I didn't read past the scary buzzwords."
I imagine if he actually read past the foreword for whatever this Claus guy's beliefs are this debate would've had some merit, instead it was listening to a guy speak for like a fucking hour repeating the same shit surface level buzzword shit, and acting incredulous at being asked questions. Actually reading the book would've given this debate an actual topic lol
Right!!! Did he answer a single question.. he’s a master deflector! Such a clown this Tristan guy. I’ve never heard someone use so many Buzzwords in my life.
D: answer this simple question.
T: debate bro term
Wait, what? You thought Tristan was the one not answering questions?
@@lightbeforethetunnel I mean considering any time Destiny tried to discuss him any further, Tristian refused to continue the conversation because Destiny is an atheist and doesn't believe in objective moral truth. I'd say yeah. This debate ground to an absolute halt any time Destiny tried to ask him what his thoughts on individual aspects of the conversation was, and Tristian always tried to drag it back to meta ethical discussions on pre suppositionalist bullshit.
If his position is that no one can have a position on the great reset, unless they believe in god, then the debate subject should've been "Can you have morals under an athiest world view?" or he could exclusvely debate other religious people. Instead he wasted everyone's time saying nothing with the only person in the room who wasn't sick of him by the end of it was Pedro - who also is a presuppositionalist.
Like damn, even getting the guy to answer the question "Do you think this is bad?" "YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A STRAW MAN ARGUMENT AND TELL ME WHAT I BELIEVE!" shit. You have to be delusional or lying to think anyone but Tristian was dodging questions.
I’ve listened to Tristan’s opening statement probably 10 times now and still have no idea what his stance is
That is actually impossible, no human can listen to hell incarnated as a 25 min opening of a video 10 time
Nah I salute you I couldn't even listen to the whole thing the one time.
I haven’t heard it 10 times but I also can’t figure out what his stance is especially with what he says later in the debate.
hes saying bad atheist in charge are going to control people through any idea that is a new idea. he just said that over and over using a collection of words.
@@kobax9999 He was human during the first 2 watches. Only god knows what he is now.
How he managed to say "I'm not even halfway through" without an ounce of humour or irony is incredible.
@@timbelcijan9858 did you know that he got raised by his mom and his dad? that makes him half male half woman
@@TheMrTangamandapio And it clearly paid off. It confused the opponent that the beta male was somehow immune to his alpha energy. The "beta" in Destiny is just a facade for his true form of Sigma male which he uses to counter with simple questions, without any signs of hostility and takes control of the conversation.
when he said that with a straight face i was thinking this man is a psychopath without an ounce of self awareness or awareness of people around him.
At that point I just fast forwarded until he was done. I don't think I missed much.
@@louisadway1856 you didn't
"if this were a formal debate you lost 3 minutes in"
-guy with 25 minute opening statement.
You lost 15 times bro... kill me... in a video game
$500 to anybody who got through more than 10 minutes of that dude’s opening statement
@@bindairdundat5000Saw this comment at 9:45 into his opening statement. I won't lie, I was about to skip forward. 10/10 betting line.
@@weldshop8499 This is my 3rd time watching this debate. Its very calming to listen to while working and knowing it delays into chaos. If played correctly, I should be able to listen the chaos while driving.
coming from someone at 5:30 thank you for saving me 20 minutes of my life
Moderators should be ashamed for letting this guy carry on in the way he did.
They were useless. I hope they didn’t get paid since they didn’t do their job.
Tristan is so bad that I think he was put up to this role
@@roharbaconmoo Lol this guy is clearly not very bright lol you can tell someone told him everything he’s regurgitating like a child lol. He can’t even defend his positions. He’s just not smart lol he’s pretty dull. Completely incapable of independent thinking 😂
This guy was excruciating 😂 he’s the perfect example of “it’s hard to debate an intelligent person but impossible to debate a stupid person.”
@@illkissyourightnow That happens when youre an idiot and get entangled into a conspiracy.. it is really urgend to you, even though you know nothing about it...
My theory is that Andrew was actually smoking a joint in this one.
I feel sorry for this guy, I think he is genuinely suffering from psychosis.
What do you mean, bro the industrial revolution of the product of the system is a new man reset is not only under but dehumanizing Brendan Schaub clout Brendan Claus, Schwab, Brennan, Claude, Santa Claus
Yeah that's what I was thinking too. All the jokes and stuff in the comments are funny but this guy definitely has psychosis
F R
I feel sorrier for anyone who interacts with him, because I think he genuinely thinks he’s intelligent
Just watched this for the first time. Something i have experienced with some of the more religious people is their inability to recognize mental issues if they are hyperfocused on religious concepts. This man seems schizophrenic with grandiose looping thoughts that are keyed into words but not attached to actual meaning. Something like this happened with someone i know and any concerns i raised about it were dismissed because i am not a believer in Jesus. If i were, i would understand what receiving messages from God can be like. Anyway, she eventually shaved her head and tried to cross the border on her way to south America to heal their nations and that's when the family decided maybe she needed lithium.
"If this was a formal debate, you lost three minutes into it"
Three minutes into the debate he was still at the introduction to his opening statement.
Exactly
25 min
I was cooking for so long and this dude was still rambling on about these chips 😩
ever heard of a 'figure of speech', he wasnt being literal was he, like when a person says 'the game was over in the first 5 seconds' or whatever.
@@johnwatts8346 do you think he's correct that he beat Destiny in the debate? 🤔 because I just heard him ramble absolute nonsense in circles over and over again, getting pissy when anyone countered anything he said lol
Debate was won when Tristan asked "What is the planet?" Destiny simply could not recover from such a great question.
This wouldn’t be such a strange question to pose to a mereological nihilist like Destiny who believes all categories are mere useful fictions, including the categories of male and female.
Destiny "destroyed"!!!
@@LtDeadeye lol who asked
I have to wonder if the question was meant to tease Destiny for having asked moments before for a definition of "stakeholder." While still eyeroll-inducong, it's at least less nutty.
@@LtDeadeye Are you the guy destiny debated?
This is the entertainment you can only get from Destiny. 2.5 hours of absolutely nothing really being said and watching someone act like an irreparable psycho while Destiny sits there looking like he’s unsure if he wants to commit suicide or homicide.
Why not both?
I know, and I love it
That's good content
i love the phrase “irreparable psycho”. spot on.
TBF a murder did occur tonight, so I guess Destiny did decide to commit homicide.
Destiny the moment you started to play music in order to try and help the situation, you won my heart. ❤️. Pro job Destiny.
The fact that the moderator was more capable of arguing Tristan's points is hilarious
If Tristan wasn't there maybe destiny woulda been converted 😂
The word of God is all about the scriptures, man. Trouble is, they were written by humans. I find it fascinating that people still believe in God in 2023. We are so much more easier to brainwash than we realize. Well, the ones who own the media companies certainly realize it. Otherwise they wouldn't have invested in that business.
@@Sandlund93 Exactly... I honestly think the whole bible is a bunch of BS because in today's day and age if you got pregnant without having sex with your husband, would people call it a gift from god or would people just say that the wife is lying about cheating? I think mary is not so virgin mary.
Kinda sad Pedro didn't keep going, that sounded like it was about to be a really good back and forth and Tristan came back in and ruined it
@@Sandlund93 media corporations or churches...
This man is the definition of "your essay must be X amount of words to pass"
😂😂😂
Well yeah 😂 he admitted it in the first 5 minutes that he was getting paid by the hour! Of course he’s gonna ramble, deflect and write an essay.
Hence the PHDs xD
That guy is painfully stupid...my goodness
And the perfect example of “it’s hard to debate an intelligent person but impossible to debate a stupid person” 😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
He’s excruciating. He’s definitely been told exactly what to say and think. He’s incapable of thinking for himself.
>"I'd much prefer timed responses"
>immediately cuts destiny off when he starts his response
😂😂😂
he also complained about strawman's and then strawmans destiny every chance. Complains about ad hominem and does that as well. Presups aren't worth talking to especially if he says things like evolution is a theory
@@martinhectormartinhector7260 it's just really sad that rhetoricstiny was out in full force (until "does God know what it's like to have a dick in the ass?") and the dude was still hyper defensive and upset.
The one good thing about presups is that I think that's what really triggered destiny to start looking into philosophy and being able to engage with these sorts of arguments. Based Darth Dawkins 🙏
I used to have that profile pic
@@mannysikario same
The debate with darth is what got me into Destiny
this dude made his PhD in a trailer park university i imagine.
7 times over if I remember!!
"is this a kojima cutscene" some legend in the chat.
Lmao
thanks for pointing this one out, made my day
Sir your win is in the mail.
I like the one, “hey destiny ask him if he’s speaking”
even kojima has better and less confused and pointless writing than this guys ramblings
Destiny: *breathes*
Tristan: You're actually strawmaning the entire right wing
- - - - - - - -
Tristan: ''I won this 3 times over''
5 min later
Tristan: ''I won this 15 times over''
10 min later
Tristan: ''I won this 5 times over''
Damn, Destiny ALMOST making the comeback from a -15 Win/Loss
LMAO those random multi-loss stacks had me thinking about dragonball Z power levels
This should be the top comment. Destiny turned a blow out into a narrow loss. Only a veteran could have kept their composure and battled against those odds.
"I came here to have a discussion AND a debate. You just came here to have a debate..."
Tristan: "The Great Reset is inherently bad"
Destiny: "Why do you think it's bad?"
Tristan: "That's a false-equivalency strawman ad-hominem. You're debating in bad faith and lost the debate 15 times."
Sorry bro If you want the answer to that question you're going to have to listen to a 20 minute segment from klaus schwab.
@@ronaldmexico1297 *25 minutes
He’s doing that because that’s how he thinks destiny wins debates, “the virgin logically sound argument” VS “the CHAD incoherent schizoid ramblings and misuse of philosophical terminology”
@@ronaldmexico1297 But i don't actually agree with Klaus Schwab i just made you listen to it because ?????
@UChOdLeuYDWG8ZECUGsX_O0g no he just said its bad without giving a reason, which is the same thing.
but maybe you cant comprehend that ;)
Chiming in from 3 years into the future of this debate, still no reset. Can my 2025 homies confirm we're still alive?
10/24 and still here !!
Lmaooooo omg
We ride I’m here reminiscing on the good old days when nutjobs weren’t the mainstream Republican party
Ain't been reset yet
@@jeffc2630Finally 2025, and no reset yet
Tristan has probably watched this at least 5 times by now, and each time he somehow keeps getting more and more proud of himself.
Best comment
He only watches the first 15 minutes.
@@magicmerls291 25*
He even loves the way he drinks his little Jesus cup... That guy is so full of himself, it's unbearable.
Great comment
I'm pretty sure I won this debate 20 times over without even being in it.
“The only way to win the game, is not to play” - War Games
I'm not sure anyone won, we're all losers for listening through this whole thing lol
What genuinely makes me agree with Destiny that the guy is unhinged is that he jumped from "you've lost 4 times" to "15 times" after 2 back and forths.
Destiny is a stupid f____t. Destiny ended the debate. Destiny is a disgrace beyond words.
@RancorousSea😂😂
I love how everyone has to treat Tristan like a baby, lowering their voices and speaking very slowly, just so he can understand what they're asking and so that he doesn't start having another tantrum.
Strange because I seen them treating Destiny and his childishness in that manner......
@@Carolinagrace777 cope
@@Carolinagrace777
🤭🥴 go get your head examined… you must’ve gotten a TBI if you believe that.
Even holding their hands up when they're trying to calm him down while asking a question and bringing order into the debate
Looks like they're being held at gun point, that's how delusional this Tristan guy is
@@Carolinagrace777 same, ol meth mouth is defs trippin on something
1:21:00 After 20 minutes of trying to avoid it, Destiny caves and explains why meta-ethics is a massive time waste in under 30 seconds. He really tried to pull his punches on this guy and have a real discussion. Legend.
“This is a man with no god and no soul. In other words, he’s a godless, soulless man.” They’re really giving out these PHDs like candy
This man doesn’t have a phd. There is no way he would even be able to defend his dissertation behaving this way.
😂🤣😂
😂😂
wanted to comment this exact thing lol
i mean he's not wrong
Tristen: I don’t like “X”
Destiny: What about “X” do you not like.
Tristen: STOP STRAW MANNING!
Destiney: 🤦♂️
It took forever just to even get that far. It took 30 minutes just to get him to answer "Do you think X is bad?"
Amazing that you destiny (woman’s name btw) fans manage to straw man a point about straw manning.
@@rossedwards3623 lol someone butt hurt? You actually think that Tristen chick knew what he was talking about. Keep using words you don’t understand, it’s hilarious. Tristen read a book and gave a report on it without actually understanding what it meant. It’s hilarious to watch. He can’t describe what he doesn’t like about what he says he doesn’t like, because he doesn’t even know what the thing he doesn’t like is. It’s actually amazing to be that dense.
@@rossedwards3623 Destiny is also a video game, and a word in general. He even makes fun of how it’s a girl name, insecure losers who act like middle schoolers I’m sure hold it against him 🤦♂️
@@rossedwards3623 That's amazin'
27:36
Destiny - "What is an example of a policy you think is a bad idea"
Tristan - "was that supposed to be a question"
Destiny - "I can write it down with a question mark if you want"
Hahaha
He lost with that response right there .
i come back to this every so often to check my mental health, if tristian is making sense at any point i call my doctor
This is actually a perfect litmus test😂
im black out drunk and im concerned this man has harmed someone in real life
This is the funniest comment in here
So far does he make sense anywhere?😅😅
LOL holy shlt that was funny.
Its insane that a dude can quote an entire book without knowing what he even means
Christians
To be fair, he was barely reading it😶
What's really pathetic is that the moderator articulated his position more coherently and argued it much better in about 5 mins.
Apes don’t read Plato. Yes they do Otto, they just don’t understand it!
Tristan : “All Destiny cares about is winning the debate!”
Also Tristan: “I totally won this debate like 15 times over , nothing I said was even wrong”
Lots of things that he said was wrong but yeah he won the debate
@@rexyz5875 . Who?
@@Lusciousrock99 tristan
@@rexyz5875 . Sure jan
@@rexyz5875 How?
The part where he goes “I’m only half way through my opening statement” then watching the moderators try to keep it together while chat goes bonkers was hilarious and pretty much foreshadowed how the rest of this debate was going to go down.😂
@@darkleon100 His biggest issue there is he just repeated the same thing over and over again. Claus Schwab said...... He said this in his book called Covid-19, where he said... Just list all the places where he said these things.
@@darkleon100 That's his problem. He doesn't have a single PhD. He's a liar.
That word salad was supposed to be an opening statement?
What is Tristan's full name? If he holds a single, legit PhD from an accredited university, his stuff might be online.
I'm only 10 minutes in and I'm already tearing my hair out over how he keeps equivocating between the fourth industrial revolution (the increasing digitization and automation of society and how it changes people's lives) and the great reset (an economic plan for managing the post-covid recovery).
He's literally taking descriptions of how humans have been adapting to technological progress and trying to twist them into sounding like some top down government/industry agenda.
I can already tell that this is going to be painful to listen to...
This is the funniest debate I’ve ever watched. It was two hours of Tristian dodging question, because he had no clue what he was talking about
You think that’s funny, watch Andrew debate Skylar Fiction on MDD 😂😂
I listened to that entire 25 minute opening statement and I don't even know what the fuck he's on about.
Destiny: "Do you like cheese?"
Tristan: "How dare you strawman me".
Oh no! When did x too the z x-zibit stop pimping my rides and yo dawg memes end? Or are they still going. Im just complimenting ur pfp.
@@canyonshep , he stopped pimping rides when cars gained the rights to autonomy on how they can be bought and sold; no need for pimps.
Also, the memes never died. Xzibit lives within us... always, and forever.
How can we talk about whether cheese is good or bad without first talking about metaethics?
@@DemothHymside Xzibit heard we liked Xzibit… so he put an Xzibit in our hearts so we can Xzibit while we meme
Tristan: "Do you like cheese?"
Destiny: "Generally speaking, cheese is..."
Tristan: "Because you say you like cheese and cheese doesn't believe in god and futhermore..."
If Tristan was asking the question xD
i love hearing evangelion lore as a real theory
Dont spoil eva for me Im still on ep 9
It´s all fun and games until Alex Jones shows up in Unit 01.
I literally laughed out loud… Thank you
I've played enough Wh40k to know where the world this guy wants ends up. It's not pretty.
@@Deadpool-su2po dance like you want to win!!!!
The bald guy is literally the meme of the guy who's celebrating a victory, throwing his hands up in the air, showering himself in Champaign, all while being in third place.
He finished third in a two-man race
Just started the video and reading your comment made me turn up the volume. 📢
we all know he won the race 15 times over in the first 10 minutes, okay?
@@arsenal4444 and those first 10 Min of him winning 15 times were all inside his opening! How amazing was that? A true master!
2:08:10 "Did we live at the same time as humans - Dinosaurs" ACTUAL GOLD
“God was not a homosexual. He was not a coomer” is my favorite quote.
"was", because god is those things now, or because god is dead. Either works with me tbh
Imagine thinking God isn't a coomer
Literally made two puppets to make them kiss.
I'd like to a detailed argument with facts and evidence to back this claim up 😁
The real question is, does God own a doghouse?
This guy gave a schizophrenic ramble for 25 minutes, asked for timed responses because he couldn't handle a conversation and then couldn't stop himself interrupting Destiny's timed response for literally 10 seconds... has he talked to people before?
he has talked TO people, but i dont think he has ever let them talk to him XD
He's somehow even worse at talking to people than Jackson Hinkle.
Bro, he's gotten SEVEN PHDs before
He probably talks to some strangers in subways when they are just trying to commute to work and got stuck in a crowded cart with him and him rambling the 25 schizophrenia speech to them
He’s the poster child of gishgalloping.
“Stop calling me a debate bro”
“I’ve won this debate almost five times”
The last 15 minutes of this debate were the best moments to ever happen in the history of the internet
The moment big papa fascist said “Tristian, you have about 1 min left” after he spoke for over 10 min and Tristian proceeded and said “No, im only half way done and im going to finish” I got literal shivers as I knew I would be in for a treat…
This shyt was a bring blastingly dumb. My brain was in a leg lock listening to this Evangelion fan scream about logical fallacies.
That was the moment i realised how valuable time stamps are...
@@gigi3029 was about to post this exact same thing
0pqq
And what a treat this so called debate it was
Him misunderstanding what "stakeholder" means AGAIN in the final 20 minutes was the perfect comedic callback
As someone who just finished studying commerce, listening to him misinterpret a concept I am confident my 9 year old cousin would understand is so frustrating.
Lmfaooo this is something we learn in like grade 7🤣
Tristan: "To destiny this is about winning a debate"
Also Tristan: "I"m here to make my opponent concede defeat on the debate topic"
I'm starting to think he might be a little dishonest
Lmaoo
That was the funniest part to me. Saying that shit when he's throwing multiple fits about how hard, fast, and many times you won the debate.
Yeah I sensed he was projecting
Destiny always wins
Tristan NEVA EVA LOSE
"have you ever seen Jurassic Park? Those guys." I swear I bust a blood vessel laughing so hard. I almost passed out.
"I WOULD RATHER WE HAVE TIMED RESPONSES" after a 25 minute opening statement
"You lost 3 minutes in" - a guy who read a book for half an hour as an opening statement and interrupted every response.
I wonder what knd of kangaroo university gave this idiot a PHD, because a cockroach in my basement could use a doctorate.
he was here to give a speech ,not a conversation
Its an unwell person who wanted a captive audience for his ramblings. He never cared about a debate.
@@ataridc And he managed to convince me of two things:
1. There is no god. If god existed, he'd lightning blast that motherfucker into oblivion.
2. You can be either religious or moral. Can't be both.
And then gets pissed when he gets held to the timed answer 😂
“I don’t care about winning a debate….” While simultaneously bringing up that Destiny lost the debate 40 times, 100 times… Sure bro, sure…
The projection is blinding
Also anyone that has to repeat that they've won every 30 seconds chances are they didn't lol
@@viziontrex also, anyone falling back on some sort of "principle" (in Tristan's case his morality or how he perceives truth) is already at a loss in terms of a debate or discussion. In my experience, anyone that's done that cannot win a given argument, or even a given point in an argument.
It's honestly so scary, yet so hilarious people like Tristan exist.
It also perfectly explains why so many conspiracy theories exist out there.
They have voting rights too... We need IQ minimum requirements for voting ASAP.
That was my takeaway as well. This guy had the requisite privilege (white, educated) to easily expand his worldview beyond the dumpster, and decided to make his home there instead.
@@Opi0id-z He has a PHD. His problem isn't IQ
@@azathoth4237 Lmao what
"Actually, Im just gonna talk over you" 🤣😭
Tristan is one manifesto away from appearing in National news.
So right sadly, he's a walking danger, either to himself or others. He's not safe
Dude probably has a rough draft
For real!
@@puffdaddy69😂😂😂
No joke!
I think Tristan is legitimately unhinged, and will likely go undiagnosed for his entire life. But those piano bits and questions about God’s ‘omniscience’ were some of destiny’s best debate moments. Cracking up over here
I just keep asking crucible if God is omniscient on Twitter 😂😂😂
@@mikecast20 😂😂
Keep projecting and swallowing your antidepressants
@@harl4227 >reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee listen to my unmedicated schizophrenic monologues
Sorry bro but the songs you're listening to aren't directly addressing you
@@harl4227 hahaha that's what I was going to say. Beat me to the punchline.
After watching this a couple times I think I understand Tristan's position, it's that a great reset is happening. That's it, absolutely nothing else.
Don't make his argument for him! That's not what he said! Lol
@@MeSpawn297 Strawman! Adhom! Bad faith! Logical fallacy! Checkmate atheist.
@@soberslav8435 did you just assume my theistic position!?!? Lmao
Not even that it's happening. That it's being proposed by people who are godless, therefore evil, so the proposal must also be evil. The debate bro in me wants to scream "ad hominem!" from the rooftops.
But don't ask me anything about it, because you aren't argueing with me, you are arguing with this youtube clip im going to find real quick. (Tristen pov)
This man clearly never been in an official debate. If he had, he would know debates are typically won by general perspective of the audience. Who did the audience mostly agree with. I'm an hour and a half into this debate and I still don't know what this man believes in. Although I should message him and thank him for the great book recommendation. I just can't wait for the great reset now!
On one hand: He's either a troll or unhinged. And its amazing content.
On the other hand: I hope I don't hear about this guy in the news or ever again.
You might bve hearing about him years from now raping in a church or some cult.
Aono really? i didn't know the church typically hosted hiphop concerts
@@HAHAHHAHAHA-o9m Keep talking.
Gumshon *starts raping really fast*
@@HAHAHHAHAHA-o9m you arent funny
We all know guys like Tristian. The dude who reads one thing and doesn’t think beyond it so when challenged totally freaks out because it never occurred to him that he may be wrong or limited. Yes we all know guys like Tristian and they always come up to you at a bar they’re in by themselves to “debate” strangers in order to prove themselves.
Indeed....we know them all too well. That's how far the termites have spread. And how long and how well they have dined
This goes way beyond a debate bro with an ego. This guy is unhinged and has absolutely no grounds in reality.
@@lunavyz901 it’s like a cautionary tale of where debate bro can go
Man, I used to be like him... glad that phase ended before my teenage years were over 😂
Hmm... not my take exactly. I think this is more like... an economist (destiny) debates a phillosopher (tristan) and there is a vacuum of common ground.
The thing is there is a whole cannon kind of related to these ideas. I haven't read it too wel, but there is like Weber and Marx and Heidegger. Who are all interested in like... how social structures and general phillosophical trends influence thought.
It's weird, difficult to falsify, heady stuff. But it's not exactly crazy.
“Dinosaurs? What are those?”
“You ever see Jurassic Park? Those guys.”
Fucking killed me.
"My argument is what a bunch of other people say without being able to create my own opinion in my own words" - Tristan
Tristan: asks complete question, and then stops talking.
Destiny: "well-"
Tristan: "I wasn't done!"
I have never wanted to pull my own hair out before but jesus christ
Here's how Tristan texts his girlfiend
Tristan: "U up?"
GF: "yeah wbu?"
Tristan: "STOP INTERRUPTING AND LET ME FINISH MY QUESTION!!!"
@democratslie8113 yeah because Tristan is insane dude
@democratslie8113 also, that's literally word for word what happened in the debate, are you going to deny reality too?
@democratslie8113
"Wrong"
- Donald Trump, 2016
Taking the name of the man who died for your salvation in anger doesnt seem wise to me
ayo i need a doctor STAT to sew back up my gut after busting watching destiny play the piano during the rambles 😂😂😂😂
Reminds me of the jack "big mad" debate in 2020. (The one where he asks about his kid being 11 and levies every classic destiny attack)
frfr :that's_amore_emoji: no cap straight bussin
1:23:28 it was so perfect with this man preaching.
Song of storms? Something from ocarina of time made it. 😆
I'm busting as well.
three destiny's on screen was just not enough, we need more
Just cause they're all white doesn't make them a Destiny m'dude
@@Roftastic I don’t think that’s what they meant…lol
AUGUST GET ON THIS SHIT NOW, WE NEED INFINITE DESTINYS
Roftastic There are literally 3 overlays of Destiny on the screen
@@Dexrazor Racist smh my head
This guy (Tristan) shouldn't be doing debates, it's like debating a flat earther, constantly screaming fallacies and avoiding having a debate.
Exactly, using the same bad faith debate tactics flat earthers do.
lmao at the moderators trying to gently teach Tristan how to have a conversation. The guy just isn't gifted at communication.
Which is why nothing he says is inherently valuable. What use are your ideas if you can't communicate them well?
@@_xTASY Most people who have (I think he said 7, PHds) communicate poorly because they have no working knowledge of, nor conviction in, the stance they have cornered themselves into - See MAGA Hogs.
This entire thing was so fun to watch. Dude is legit crazy and has a hard time functioning outside of the script he's got memorized
True, any deviation from his envisioned script made him collapse and it revealed how utterly clueless he is. All he had were buzzwords and article titles. The whole stupid meta-ethics debate only happened because it was a deflection when he wasn't able take a position on whether an aspect of the alleged great reset was a good or bad thing and why he thinks that is the case.
How can anyone have any meaningful conversation with that dude?
How the hell did destiny explain the guys side better than him
Red pill brain rot
One of them understands it better than the other😂
Perfect observation. This was fascinating to watch.
Just like a train wreck.@@johndwyer9576
destiny is better at steel manning his interlocutors positions then they are
The moderator's answer to the dispute between 2 conflicting revelations demonstrates the problem with revelations. The moderator said in that instance, he would look to external evidence and logical arguments (even if they're unsound).
That shows that revelation cannot be the foundation, because the ultimate appeal cannot be to revelation.
This is... The actual most frustrating conversation I've ever had the horror of listening too.... But I can't stop watching
I laughed out loud. Exactly what it is
This was the comment I was looking for - I wanted to stop so many times but I couldn’t hahahahha
yes , there is alot of crazy spitiual sht going on . even one attracting us to continue watching the chaos. its all most unfortunate. honestly neither side was working in good faith. 50 years from now we'll all be like fk! we should of discussed this more. lol
This.
@noblenessdee6151 what're you yappin about?
having a conversation with this Tristan guy seems like literal torture
getting his thoughts on anything must be like pulling teeth from a lion.
I have relative like this, I avoid them like the plague
Fking dying over here fr Tristan is the most insidious debate bro ever
His fragile masculinity is showing
@@jennahunter2968 Fragile is an understatement.
Anyone who has to keep proclaiming throughout a debate that they've won the debate has already lost
The delusion is REAL
are you trying to tell me that Tristan lost the debate 27 times over
@@Greyz174 I'd say that Tristan not only lost the debate but he sounded pathetic as well
@@Slitherssss the amount of times he lost the debate is very important and i don't understand why you're not stressing that
@@Greyz174 LMAO
This is the third time I’ve watched this debate since I watched it live and each time I watch it only gets better, funnier and cringier. I don’t know if that Tristan guy was hoping to use this debate to launch his career as a stakeholder in the marketplace of ideas but we haven’t seen him since. This is just top Destiny debating. Chefs kiss 💋
I think its hilarious that a rightwinger talks about objective truth.
calling this a debate is like saying an nba player vs. an amputee is a competition lmaoooo
This was one of the most frustrating things I've ever watched. Destiny, you're a saint for battling through this
Destiny is doing important work. She is a strong, bold, intelligent and patient woman.
@@Darth_Bateman she?
@@theconner1118 community inside joke. Because: "destiny is a girls name."
if destiny hadnt played the piano when he did, I dont think I couldve finished this video
@danpitman5555 this one used to be the most annoying and un-listenable debate, but his most recent debate on the Whatever Podcast easily beats this one. yeouch. sheeeehhh
I can’t believe you let him read a book as part of a debate. I wanted to die……
The 3rd circle of hell is just Tristan reading that guy’s book for 25 minutes, lecturing you about God and then starting his intro over.
Tristan logic is from Mars
Tristan put on your antennas and tin foil hat
Symbolism Myth Religion are all old ways of describing the world. Now we have Science. How did we get from the great reset to god.
This was a great debate between destiny and Pedro. Its just a shame that Tristan PhD moderator got too involved in the debate.
Exactly can’t win the debate 15 times if you’re a moderator
@@TrentonF505 🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Serious contender for one of the best videos on RUclips. Could listen to these guys debate each other for hours.
Two years later, and this debate still hasn't started
Genuinely true lol
That was just impressive how much Tristian was projecting the entire time. Nearly every single thing he accused Destiny of, he himself had committed. Or even was commiting while making the accusation. Amazing.
I always find it funny when people complain about destiny talking over them then when they actually get to talk they'd rather bitch about him and insult him with their time
@@sp00kyd4ddy6 well that is disrespectful
Reminds me of another glorious debate.... Amazin'!
I’m amazed by both of them because Destiny likewise does the same. That guru was right
“Democracy is….government….by the people…..of the people….for the people….but…..the people….are retarded…”
It's always so unnerving to me how so, so many people actually do this.
Destiny: "Is 2+2 = 4?"
Tristan: "Do you even think 2 objectively exists?"
“Clearly 2 exists as revealed by scripture but it also doesn’t exist because science and ad hom strawman false equivalency that didn’t answer my question which you lost 15 times in the first 20 seconds… What? I’m answering your question, here’s a Schwabb video”.
Tristan: "Well Klaus Schwab in his book COVID-19: The Great Reset, which I have here in my hand, he referred to the concept of math and numbers such as 2 multiple times, yet he only uses them in vague terms, never outlining clearly what he means by it. So my question for you is if you're okay with understanding the world through methods which have been decided for you by a collection of mathematicians such as Pythagoras, Archimedes, Brahmagupta, al-Khwarizmi, Turing, etc.? You're really okay with having the world's existence dictated to you by anyone except God?"
"I don't know, do *YOU* think 2 + 2 = 4?"
”did i say 2+2 = 4?”
@@LoudWaffle Best summary of this entire debate 😂
Are dinosaurs real?
Tristan: DO YOU BELIEVE SCIENCE IS IN THE ROOM WITH YOU RIGHT NOW?!
If I was Destiny I would have held up any object and dropped it. Gravity/Science is in the room right now.
My favourite part of the debate was when Destiny got to debate his moderator.
What a twist.
It couldn't be any debate with Tristan because he couldn't handle his own point of view. I find him a bit scary because of his mental health/condition, he's really out there, delusional at best
😂
Great twist. Great twist.
The only coherent debate in the whole thing
Destiny's brain has already been reset into stupid f____t mode. That is why Destiny was not able to debate properly and had to end the debate.
This dude is absolutely going to be the subject of a Netflix True Crime docuseries one day.
Probably not. Most of these guys like him develop these beliefs as coping mechanisms for their vast insecurities. This comment shows it does work a bit though because this is what he wants you to think about him so you don't actually see what a scared pussy he actually is.
@@link212112 I mean I don't exactly think murderers do it because they're filled with confidence lol. I just mean the dude seems unattached from reality and gives off some major "God told me to do it" energy.
@@RiddlyTK yyyuuupp all those school shootings aren’t exactly committed by gigachads
This dude sounds like tonka trucks at times.
@@FearandLoathinginLandonND what happened to that dude
It's interesting that this multiple PHD holder doesn't have a single reference to it on his website where he sells $250 1 hour coaching sessions on how eating an all meat diet is good.
yea I was hunting for ANY info on it. Despite his twitter including "PhD" 7 times in the title, and labeled in his name on this debate panel, there is zero information on the content of these anywhere on his site bio's. If these labels are so important to someone's persona you would think information on his accreditations would be moderately easy to locate. I mean dang I have my college listed on most of my social pages and my degree doesn't mean dick.
Given even an "accelerated" PhD takes 4 years to complete (many are 8 years), and a nutrition PhD (the most likely one he might have if I'm being charitable) takes 4-6, I' think its safe to assume outside perhaps nutrition, all of these "PhD's" are BS.
@@Keithslawinski he was asked about which phds he had after destiny left and he said something like "phd in bullshit" or something iirc, so who knows
whats his website?
He probably has some kind of prion disease from eating elk brains in some weird emulation of a skaldic poem or somethin
@@grymjaw lmao u did some research huh god bless ur soul
The underlying piano music at the end highlights the pablum Tristan rants about. A joke! Wonderful. Lol.
Legends say to this day Tristan still thinks he won this debate by a landslide
He did win by a landslide, but the voting machines were hacked by the Jewish Space Laser.
He doesn't even know how to think. He just read a book... Nothing of substance came out of his mouth
Well, we know he believes in stupid shit ;)
Legends say he is still reading his plagiarized opening statement.
@@sleether4049 I promise that he never even read the book.
Question, how did the PHD manage third place in a two person debate, coming in behind the moderators?
That has to be some kind of record.
Bro. There were two moderators... he got fourth place in a two person debate..
@@falseprophet1024 rofl whoops. You are correct.
Why are the moderators feeling the need to step in on his behalf though? So weird
@@tramarthomas6105 I think they did a great job, it's a guest in your home turf which almost always leads to accusations of favouritism. Besides, letting him talk a lot gave him plenty of rope. I actually agree with a bunch of this guys concerns and spent half the time yelling "NO DESTINY ISN'T SAYING THAT, GOD I HATE THIS GUY" at my phone like a moron. Maybe not productive but sure was entertaining.
*PhD's are often tards. Sometimes they re-peat*
Dr Tom B Goldberg PhD
The look in this guy's eyes, his tone of voice, and his body language are all the embodiment of what I don't want to be having a conversation with. I would be worried about a guy like this stabbing me outside a bar if I got into an argument with him. Something is wrong with him, and I don't know what it is.
Some girl once told Tristan he was a good debater and this is where that leads. Stop flattering pretty ignorants.
Having been raised deeply a religious Southern Baptist, it is a sort of psychosis and stern rejection of reality. Trust that instinct because this is a dangerous person. He would absolutely put atheists into camps if it was within his power.
It's what religious fundamentalism looks like. People like that did stone and burn others at the stake not long ago in human history. It was not simpletons who created the reasoning behind it, no, those were the educated ones, like the "PhD" in this video, while simpletons followed them.
It's not him, you're just a an afraid soy leftie.
@@disciplewill7696 No, it's him. He looks like an axe murdererr.
"Did we live at the same time as humans?" -Dinosaurs
One of the funniest moments ever.
A masterclass on how to avoid engaging in any questions while maintaining the elusion of debate victory. Tristan is an elite debate bro and needs to teach this rare tactic to the world.
that, or a Meth-head. I know which theory is my favorite
I don’t think this is a master class. His evasiveness was too transparent. This is more like a “how not to”
Illusion?
@@Kormac80 delusion?
@@mcbritelol I had that exact same thought
"Can I have a burger please?"
"Sure. Do you want fries with that?"
"Cmon, don't strawman me. Did I say I wanted fries?"
This debate in a nutshell lmao
I keep returning to this debate amazed by the amount of blatant schizophrenia, it's almost beautiful how textbook it is.
Calling his logical arguments "blatant schizophrenia" is a bad faith omega class strawman and ad hom
It isn't schizophrenia, Trist is just an idiot who thinks he had degrees he doesn't actually have, thus a pseudo-intellectual.
What part of the debate is blatant schizophrenia? I have listened completely yet can you give an example?
@@tristanphillips7275It's been 6 months my guy, let it go.
@@tristanphillips7275did you even watch the debate?
The moderating of this "debate" was atrocious.
Tristan nervously laughing whenever he doesn’t understand what’s going on gives me life
Nah, it's better than that. He's not laughing nervously, he's laughing proudly, it seems. Whenever his delusions are contested with the kind of speech you'd expect in a coherent debate/discussion, he starts dismissively laughing.
This dude really showed up with a 4th grade presentation and committed to NEVER go from his pre written words so in his mind he could never lose…instead of just talking like a human to another human.
What? This is just blatantly untrue. You're saying Tristan "never went from his pre written words" ... it's absurd.
It's just variation of the ever present atheist "I don't understand therefore it's word salad or a script" Ad hominem you guys always deflect with.
Do you guys really think we haven't picked up on these tactics and we don't know what you're doing?
@@lightbeforethetunnel ah, you're subbed to him. This guy is a literal basket case and you watch him. crazy.
@@paleskin5087 Yawn... another ad hominem fallacy.
@@paleskin5087 Generally, the biggest issue holding atheists back is their inability to engage COHERENTLY with people who don't have the same beliefs/worldview they do.
You guys would gain a lot from learning about logical fallacies so you could begin debating COHERENTLY with people you disagree with.
Step 1, for the vast majority of Atheists, would be to simply learn about logical fallacies, at least until you're educated enough about them where you can dispute posts you don't agree with in a way that isn't invalid.
That's what logical fallacies are: Invalid arguments / responses. Logical fallacies are inadmissible on their face in intellectual forum.
@@lightbeforethetunnel HAHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS TRISTAN TRYING TO DEFEND HIMSELF FOR BEING A NUT CASE
The way Tristan keeps saying "You've lost about 15 times now Destiny" reminds me of a quote from Game of Thrones (ironic). "Any man who must say 'I am the King' is no king at all".
there is no way tristan doesn't have actual schizophrenia
Its why he can repeat the questions destiny ask. He is trapped in his own mind.
My guy won the debate 12 times before it even started. That's crazy
"Okay we have a great show planned today, should be some heated back and forth..."
"Yo, mind if I water board your audience with 20 minutes of bullshit before we begin?"
"Well I rather you didn't, I mean we..."
"In 1792 noted bogapediatitian and tigglesnatcher Hershal C Muhcocksalongdong laid out his 47 principles as to why mixing eggs and rye bread will bring about the apocalypse..."
"You're not going to list all 47 are..."
"Principle number one! Rye bread is for bitches!"
Best comment.
I think Hershal C was quoting Mike Hawksmassif in this particular instance. Stop strawmanning bro.
Lol
The sad part is around the 55:00 mark Destiny tries really hard to reach this guy and throw up the flag of peace and continue the discussion, but he just can't seem to understand what's happening. This guy came here to fight with Destiny not debate.
This guy just has very very bad social skills, possibly on the spectrum?
@@Name-cz5jj but that's what he is, he didn't even know what he is attacking, he uses vague terms and rambles a lot.
@@SHITSWEEEK the extremist spectrum I see
This is a biannual rewatch for me. 10/10 content
Destiny - "Can I answer this without him interrupting?"
"yes"
Destiny - "Okay, so-"
Tristian - "ISN'T IT FUNNY HOW-"
1:48:34 for timestamp
@@sb_dunk I should've put that in from the beginning, I would've never remembered where this was so thanks lmao
@@fitzchivalry728 you’re a bot so it’s fine
Always does this
Lmao this man is insane
1:48:33 That was so perfect
Hahahahaha holy fuck
thank you for this comment. actually made me wait for it and was so worth it
He took the bait so hard
comedic timing at its finest
that summed up this entire video. it was so worth waiting lmao
"The great reset" was this debate starting over and over again.