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It’s interesting reading his perspective on what a trans woman feels - and I’m not saying he’s wrong - but her soul is female - and that’s the most common misconception people seem to have about transgenderism. Pinocchio was a real boy after all. The wood was how his dad saw him.
Mfs are rlly okay with descriptions of blood, abuse of all kinds, mistreatment, violence and war in McCarthy's books, but the moment the man makes mention of anything LGBT related and doesn't do it in a negative way as they would have expected, that's where they draw the line. Ridiculous. Excellent analysis by the way! I love your videos talking about his books!
I'm a trans woman who is a fan of McCarthy, and I have been since I was a young teenager. It's so nice to have a character who represents trans women in a complex, less judgemental way. I relate so much to the longing for and aspiring to the embrace or embodiment of some greater, capital F Feminine. This video has touched me so, so much. This is not a book I would have been interested in enough to read ordinarily, honestly, so I could easily have not known about this character. I'm so grateful that I know now. Thank you so much for such a compassionate and nonjudgemental analysis of her.
This chapter was very surreal. A few years ago I dated and fell in love with a woman who was trans and her and I had a similar conversation over one of our dates. We eventually parted amicably but the character really reminded me of her.
Agreed. We only have one non-fiction piece by him. Feels like he could write so well about hundreds of topics. But, all I need is 10 essays about what he loves most!
Once in so often, I am surprised by feeling seen by a cis person when it comes to, in a way, a spiritual experience of being trans and it happend to me twice - once by my mentor in nursing school and now by McCarthy
Trans girl here! I saw the video title and was worried that McCarthy would be transphobic however, I found it to be the opposite. Some the stuff said is sorta relatable for me which I was surprised about. Definitely going to have to pick up the Passenger now!
@@dt16faf Because a phobia is an irrational fear. Whoever is critical of “transgenderism”, whether it’s bigotry based on religion or reactionary views, whether it’s a scientific disagreement, or whether it’s gay people who say transgenders are simply gays who won’t accept their identity as gay, “fear” has nothing to do with it. Calling things phobias is just a cheap and dishonest way to label disagreement as some sort of mental disorder so that they can avoid discussing issues on their merits. For the word “transphobia” to have any real meaning it would need to describe deeply neurotic people who imagine transsexuals or crossdressers lurking at every corner or under their bed. Most neologisms from the last few decades are this kind of crap. It’s polluting the intellectual and scientific life of Western Civilization. And before anyone jump to attaching cheap labels to me: I helped my best buddy, who’s a gay film producer, make a documentary about a man going through the whole process of sex change operation over twenty years ago, long before it became fashionable and the new religion. I’m not impressed by people who voice “strong opinions” only when those opinions become the new mainstream dogma.
I appreciate your video, but you have a few details wrong. The scene at Galatoire’s restaurant, a real restaurant in the French Quarter that McCarthy very likely spent quite a bit of time at when he lived there, takes place in New Orleans, a city very accustomed to trans folks and all types of people living on the fringes of society, and not Mississippi. New Orleans is very much NOT a part of the traditional south and has always been a city that embraces the LBGTQ and in fact holds a huge festival, Southern Decadence, every year that honors the LGBTQ community. When the character is talking about visiting her mother, those scenes take place in Tennessee, where Bobby Western and the trans character are both from and is presumably why they know each other. It would make perfect sense for a trans person to live in New Orleans in 1980 as New Orleans is one of the few cities in America where such a thing wasn’t a big deal back then.
Agree. I’m a New Orleanian and had a transgender hairdresser at a prominent French Quarter hotel in 1979, prior to and after,.having surgery. The customers and hotel management supported Bennie through transition to Barbara. NOLA is unique.
Another New Orleans native checking in, not only of the place but also of the time (old fart - 63 y.o.). The other folks in comments here are on point, and I have nothing really to add other than a few personal notes and affirmations. I’m about 1/4 into The Passenger and am so goddamned thrilled that my beloved hometown is actually a major part of a CORMAC MACCARTHY novel!!! Being an old fart at 63, I can also completely relate to the time, as well as very particular place. Not only time and place, but also many other specifics of my youth are reflected in The Passenger, having bounced back and forth between working as a mudlogger on the offshore oil rigs and a waiter at Commander’s Palace, which is about the best I could do with a geology degree until I left NOLA in 1990 for a career in environmental work. Of course, Cormac MacCarthy captures EVERYTHING about the place and the time, all the micro/detail (the short section on the jack-up rig was just so…right) and of course the beautiful and evocative language that conjures up the….feel. Good Lord, he even perfectly to a T described the multi course, “you’ll take what we give you” menu at Tujaque’s. New Orleans is really is easy to “get wrong” (as are the 80s now that I think about it). Cliches and superficial BS abound in depictions by lesser artists. No worries here. This is CORMAC MCCARTHY, after all!
THANK YOU for understanding and bringing into this conversation the occult, esoteric laws of duality that have nothing to do with being transphobic or bigoted. Life literally relies on polarity and the associated energies to exist. So many want to reduce these complex topics to politics when they are so beyond it.
There’s a trans female character in Suttree, which is set in the 1950s. One of the final scenes is of Suttree saying goodbye to her. He calls her John, which is “dead naming” I guess, but it’s a touching moment still.
it is always really nice to see trans people or any lgbt people mentioned in a positive way. even if it’s with some misconceptions and ignorance is nice to hear and very encouraging! ❤❤❤
Agreed. Also, a realistic perspective from a 40 year old man in 1980 is going to not be progressive today. Even if that character was very progressive at that time.
@@WriteConscious exactly! i dont think people who are upset by the portrayal are invalid as there is too much hate against trans people and queer people in general.
@@frog3262no, there is a lot of hate of people shoving that crap down peoples throats. Nobody cares. Do your thing and leave everyone else alone. People don’t hate trannies, they hate being told what to do and how to think . The whole movement is creating more hate because people are sick of seeing it everywhere… oh, and also the grooming of children is gross
If youre implying McCarthy is writing ignorantly on this because the logic and framework of self identity of this 1980s character isnt 100% correspondent with modern polite trans conversation i think you're incredibly arrogant and stupid. I don't wish to homogenize modern trans conversation and self mythologies because they can be many branched and many trans people see different understandings of what it means to be trans. McCarthy is not being ignorant for contradicting your understanding of transexuality, you're just being close minded
Yureitou It's a manga that makes a lot of mistakes, about the physical part and nuances of this transition process, but what does it say about the sentimental part?the construction of characters and their deconstruction, it's better than a lot of stories that are very respectful and positive in representations of transition, it's a manga people listen to and turn up their noses, I say it's one of the best on this sensitive topic.
McCarthy is the goat and this is just proof of that. Never did I expect to see such a nuanced and beautiful take like this from the guy that made The Judge. I'm a cis guy, but one of my dearest friends is a trans woman. It depresses and angers me that she can't even exist in this world without people trying to stop her from simply being who she is. I'm 100% buying her a copy, since her birthday is coming around the bend. Great video!
@@kentjensen4504nothing to do with Marxism. "The term cisgender has its origin in the Latin-derived prefix cis-, meaning 'on this side of', which is the opposite of trans-, meaning 'across from' or 'on the other side of'." Read more, because not everything is a Marxist conspiracy against you.
Disenfranchised is often used in the context of voting however Disenfranchisement means to be made worse off or denied for example in Blood meridian there is the quote "moral law is the Disenfranchisement of the strong in favour of the weak"
He probably is mirroring an observation. I don’t see a moral argument for or against this phenomenon of gender disphoria, or that some people believe they are really the opposite sex.
How exactly is one "for" or "against" gender dysphoria? A scientifically proven and clinical diagnosis? Why bring morals into it? Regardless, what Cormac wrote about this trans woman is more beautiful and empathetic than your average hate fueled youtube comment
@@WriteConscious I am so excited for Stella Maris! I'm gonna finish reading that one shortly after its release as well. It'll be interesting to read a novel by McCarthy with a woman as the protagonist. Outer Dark has been the closest novel of his to having a woman as a protagonist, yet her brother is the main character of that story.
I agree, some of the quack-book reviewers are saying that "Alicia" is not well-written in Stella Maris, but I thought he wrote her jsut fine in The Passenger.
Checkout Thomas Harris' transgender themes in Silence of the Lambs. Within a forensic psychology framework it still manages to be very nuanced and informative. It also shows prevailing attitudes of psychologists regarding transgender issues for the time (early 80s).
Unlike the movie, which confused people into believing buffalo bill was trans despite the book itself saying he is not and the book in general being all the more clear about it
I’d like to sign up for the newsletter he mentioned…is this how? I’m reading my first Cormac McCarthy novel now, All the pretty horses and feel like I’m entering another dimension.
Trucker John! We don't know! He is one of the most reclusive writers in modern history. But, I am assuming it has to be real people or his imagination. We would hear if he was interviewing people. He gave an 8 minute interview to Oprah where they talked about virtually nothing and a couple vague print interviews over the years that reveal next to nothing about his writing process. We basically know nothing about him other than those things lol!!! Edit: There is a 75 minute interview out now that talks about nothing related to writing, literature, or identity lol. Question remains unsolved!
He lived in New Orleans for awhile and almost certainly based the strange cast of characters on people that he knew when he lived there. I’ve lived here in the New Orleans area my entire life and the detail with which he describes the city is just what I would expect from McCarthy, a writer who has never written about any place that he isn’t thoroughly familiar with.
@@WriteConscious If it wasn’t from interviewing trans people or specifically trans women, then he had to have done a shit ton of research. The way “William” speaks about her Identity and feelings towards wanting to feel like a woman feel so authentic to conversations I have heard from real life trans women and their feeling towards their identities.
Interesting analysis and it's a nice surprise that McCarthy adopts a reasonable live and let live position on the TG character. I'm minded of the contrast to the viciousness of writers Ricky Gervais or James Corden in the nasty material they've come up with on their shows.
McCarthy has always been a very socially conscious man. His stories about the struggles of the underclass and people who are othered. And let's not get into how Judge Holden is basically white supremacy and manifest destiny made flesh.
I don’t k ow about James Corden, but Ricky wasn’t mocking transgender people. There are a lot of ludicrous believes that have been crammed into the trans issue and that is what Ricky was mocking. Like a r@pist claiming to be a women, being sent to a woman’s prison, and victimizing more women in the prison. Kindness is one thing, losing all sense of reality is another.
The title had me for a second ... I thought maybe you were using the Trans subject as unrelated click bait. I had no idea that Cormac McCarthy wrote a transgender character. Thanks for the info.
He lived in downtown New Orleans and Knoxville and I'm sure met transgender individuals. He also doesn't keep up with the culture wars, and started the Passenger in 1960, so it's kind of the perfect storm lol.
I think the people who believe that this sequence is transphobic or misinformed or ignorant didn't pay attention very well at all. "I want to have a female soul. I want the female soul to contain me." This isn't assuming that being transgender is somehow invalid. What it's actually insisting is that how we assign male and female (which is a social utility) is entirely arbitrary. It is a short but beautiful note on the importance of postgenderism and the continued deconstruction of how we identify ourselves and how inefficient it is to encompass the entirety of our being. A method of self-identification is the best means of allowing people to freely express themselves.
very very VERY COOL ! By the title for a SPLIT SECOND i was like "nooooo please Cormac don't be a transphobe i would not survive having to cancel you" but alas: the master combats superficiality with beauty and depth!
McCarthy used the trans scene to promote the notion of God’s pervasive love, love that illuminates every crevice of creation. The trans character was a prop for this notion, not a cheap nod of “inclusion” at the LGBT community.
@@WriteConscious Ok, glad you agree even if I’m stating the obvious. Judging from the video and the comments, it seems the focus is on transgenderism and it’s vindication by McCarthy rather something that transcends human fragility or even aberrance.
Is there a lot of gender and trans stuff in this particular book? I’m not getting that from the blurb so….I’d appreciate your thoughts. I’m set to order soon.
Haha, no. Just half a chapter where the main character is talking to a trans woman. The character appears just in that chapter and I think it's there to help reinforce the idea of individuals out there who are trying to find a soul connection. Very well-done chapter.
Bobby is obsessed with his sister. She is described as beautiful. The trans-person is described as beautiful. Bobby has a brotherly relationship to her. She is obviously meant to parallel his sister.
Good analysis! I agree. Made this at 2AM the night the passenger came out after grinding it out on Kindle lol. I have another video that breaks down how Cormac writes trans characters that's way better ruclips.net/video/luQeyWwtpxw/видео.html
@@WriteConscious I did about 2 1/2 laps myself. Lots left unresolved: Did they have a kid together? Did Alicia beat death and go back to look for Bobby? Or is Bobby merely schizophrenic? Is the Kid related to the Judge? And then if you wanted to assign symbolic meanings to the characters, the answers would become even more intricate.
I really wish you would change the title, because this is a lovely video and the word "transgenderism" is an outdated word now used almost exclusively by right wing pundits to dehumanize and reduce our existence to ideology. Maybe you thought it would get more views or attract a specific audience who would have their perspective changed by this video even a little, and I hope that's true, but with the amount of hate and fearmongering around trans people the past few years I think the dislikes unfortunately speak for itself.
Thanks! Haha, I know🤣 2AM recording mistakes. Am making a 5+ hour breakdown of The Passenger right now alongside some sick editing with hopefully way less mistakes lol! Grinding it out day by day!
@@WriteConscious McCarthy is the big one for me and has been for a few years. I've read and discussed/debated many others, but I've found the discussions around McCarthy to be lacking. It's refreshing to find new people discussing him outside of The Cormac McCarthy Society/Journal and the few podcasts done by those who contribute to that journal(maybe you contribute as well and I've not come across that link/discussion yet).
Haha, I am trying to get all the Cormac McCarthy scholars on this channel, but make it a much more laid back Joe Rogan type podcast that doesn't have such fixed topics. Going to be dropping a ton of discussions, live streams, and content soon to boost the McCarthy zone.
I always see people label McCarthy as a political conservative, and I often disagree. I think he writes about themes that conservatives gravitate to (macho white guys, westerns, limited female perspectives, etc...), but he's almost always deconstructing them or straight rejecting them, like in Blood Meridian. I wouldn't assume to guess his politics, but from what I can tell, I don't think conservatives can claim him as one of their own.
Nope, he is a conservative. Sorry! In his 2005 Vanity Fair interview, he discusses not liking Santa Fe because of all the liberals. He then follows it up that they are too pushy and dogmatic. That problem has gotten infinitely worse since 2005 lol. Cormac said a similar sentiment in his 1992 NYT interview, and in the interview released with him a couple months ago, he said he wished the Santa Fe Institute was in Texas because the people are better. He is influenced by a ton of conservative thinkers in his archive. I could go on with other details, but I understand from his writing you don't get conservative. His earlier books are very environmentalist and progressive for the time period/place.
I have never said McCarthy injects conservatism into his work. I am saying his personal politics are conservative. As an artist, he explores ideas across the spectrum.
It would be much nicer were the character addressed by her name and not William, which is quite odd since in every other way both subjective and objective she is referred to unilaterally as a woman. However, it's definitely not due to McCarthy trying to make some kind of transphobic point. It's still surreal to see the man touch on this particular issue in his work.
@@smartyjonez5470 Cute. Thanks for letting me know you're an asshole that doesn't deserve to be taken seriously, but why wait until the second message? You could have just opened with "My hatred of trans people overrides all rational thought in my brain" and this would have been shorter.
The problem I have with the trans issue is children are being diagnosed with sensory disorders and ADHD and given off label prescriptions and then offered sex change therapy with hormones and actual genitalia mutilation at a young age. Google Seattle Children’s Hospital Gender Affirming Care. They’re literally giving autistic kids on meds sex changes. THAT’S the problem I have. If you’re 18. Great. You go girl. But leave the kids alone. I’m super glad you shared this. McCarthy is a genius and this shows it
I guess we are all just searching for meaning, thats the goal of conscious life. Those people, whether they have legitimate gender dysmorphia or not, just want meaning. I don't think that's how they'll find it but hey, what do i know about being something i'm not? It is unfortunate mainly that this transgenderism is becoming something that will make people inauthentic, in the case of those who simply want an identity and do not truly belong in their heart to this group. That is the greatest human sin, inauthenticity to ones self unbeknownst to the person themselves
People should be able to do whatever they want, but when they try to push their ideas on my kid in school, that's when I'm against them. That is pedophile behavior.
Homeschool! Public education is always the current government's indoctrination zone. I don't think religion should be pushed in public schools either, but it was for most of American history. I've been a teacher in conservative schools, and the amount of policing by parents is insane. I almost got fired for talking about Plato and Aristotle lmao. The whole system is broken.
hi! it’s not pedophile behavior, it just isn’t. there of course are trans pedophiles but there are many more cis pedophiles that doesn’t mean a cis person talking to kids is a pedophile! and you could argue that trans people have had ideas pushed onto them for being trans (conversion therapy for example and people telling them to change who they are) but if a school is teacher kids about trans people the only thing it does is help kids understand others and help a child who is potentially trans feel less alone. when a young trans child is helped early and has support from teachers is can dramatically decrease the suicide rates which are horrifically high for trans people. anyways, have a good day!
@@GarciansVortex McCarthy's novels are full of Gods imagery, besides ive seen many debates between believers and atheist, atheist arguments are surprisingly weak.
Lol, dude publishes 1.2 million words and 3,000 of them feature a trans character. Even if you don't believe in the trans stuff, you're gooning if you have a problem with that.
I just said I don't want to hear it. I'm tired of all this crap. I don't care if your trans or not I just said miss me with it and i havnt read the passenger but it's not like mccarthy is the best author at all times. I've disliked 2 of his books so far when he's good he's amazing. So yea maybe I'll just miss this one along with about a million books that I'll never have the time to read in 10 lifetimes. Time is precious. Have to choose what u consume carefully. I honestly diddnt even say I don't believe in the trans stuff Im just sick of hearing all the time
@@WriteConscious He just said he's sick of hearing about it all the time. He didn't aid he doesn't "believe" in it. I made a documentary about a sex change person 25 years ago, long before it was fashionable to talk about. We followed him before, during, and after the horrible procedure. He has health problems now and tends to avoid social situations. He was happier as a gay effeminate manm which is all "male to female" cases are. They're gays who don't want to admit they're gay, so they tell themselves theyre actually women and actually straight. It is pitiful. I think you're more woke than you like to think you are, when you jump to conclusons like you do here.
There was no need to put transgenderism/dudes playing dress up into the novel. Was he just trying to be contemporary, a sign of the times? It added nothing.
No, he started writing this novel in 1961 and had drafts done by 1980. Have you read Suttree? He followed the same narrative technique with this. Suttree meets Trippin in the Dew (trans) as figure detached from the world he is living in. At the novel's end, the last person he meets to send him off is Trippin in the Dew. In The Passenger, the character appears as an anomaly not connected to anything else, and shows back up at the end of the novel to conclude his relationship with Alicia. Weird narrative technique, but he seems to think (dating back to the 60's) it is effective.
I thought it was disappointing and maybe even hurtful to the trans community. First, she "longs to be a woman?" Trans women ARE women. McCarthy seems to be too hung up on gender throughout the dialog to understand that it is a social construct. If get that he is old and the book is outdated but still... It is also hurtful that he uses the same old "damaged trans trope". She was a teenage call girl right? The idea that all trans women must be a sexual deviant is also very problematic. This is the kind of stuff that is not good for the trans community at large and is a very bad representation. EDIT: It seems some other people (I noticed it as well) noticed that it seems to conflagrate transgenderism with mental illness. TRANSGENDERISM IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS. Full stop.
@ ZEG - Thanks for bringing in another perspective, and I'm sorry that you're disappointed! But, this is fiction writing, when you start to bring in the "hurting the community" argument you are messing with authors' heads and pre-censoring them. That argument equates to "If you don't write characters in the way we want you to write them you are creating violence against trans people." You're projecting a 2022 ideology onto a fictional character based in 1980 New Orleans. McCarthy lived in the French Quarter of New Orleans, so he probably has a good idea of how to write a character who lives there.
@@WriteConscious thank you for the level headed response. Maybe I was a little harsh, and it might be the editors fault more likely. But I can't shake the feeling that the character is full of dangerous stereotypes and I don't like them being mixed in with the themes of mental illness.
Yes! You're entrenched in a culture war. McCarthy is a very conservative author who worked on this novel for SIXTY years. A trans character is featured for a couple pages because that's the type of person you may encounter in downtown New Orleans in 1980... This is fiction from the greatest living novelist... Not the news. A much more Christian/conservative audience confronted the same topic in McCarthy's 1974 novel Suttree for a page and didn't have a problem because they could still understand it was fiction...
I understand! I'm just saying McCarthy isn't reaching with this character or trying to brainwash. It just came out during a time when it's a hot topic!
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It’s interesting reading his perspective on what a trans woman feels - and I’m not saying he’s wrong - but her soul is female - and that’s the most common misconception people seem to have about transgenderism. Pinocchio was a real boy after all. The wood was how his dad saw him.
This was the last thing I expected cormac to tackle but he seems to handle it in a characteristically nuanced and beautiful manner. Love that guy.
Agreed! The imagination can take you strange places, and he has to the courage to follow that which is great.
@@adbyzantium that’s the one I haven’t actually got around to reading. have a copy but just never found the time for it - gotta change that stat
Good point Peter. It is in Suttree too. Didn't remember that!
at what point does it turn up in suttree?
Around page 110 in my version, the character "Trippin through the Dew" is trans. McCarthy uses androgyne.
Mfs are rlly okay with descriptions of blood, abuse of all kinds, mistreatment, violence and war in McCarthy's books, but the moment the man makes mention of anything LGBT related and doesn't do it in a negative way as they would have expected, that's where they draw the line. Ridiculous.
Excellent analysis by the way! I love your videos talking about his books!
Thanks!
He’s describing psychopaths and other types of traumatized and sick people. This is nothing new.
"Yes."
Gotta say ive never seen the word Transgenderism used by a video or person that ended up being "cool" so I was pleasantly surprised by this segment.
yeah normal people hate strange things
I'm a trans woman who is a fan of McCarthy, and I have been since I was a young teenager. It's so nice to have a character who represents trans women in a complex, less judgemental way. I relate so much to the longing for and aspiring to the embrace or embodiment of some greater, capital F Feminine. This video has touched me so, so much. This is not a book I would have been interested in enough to read ordinarily, honestly, so I could easily have not known about this character. I'm so grateful that I know now. Thank you so much for such a compassionate and nonjudgemental analysis of her.
This chapter was very surreal. A few years ago I dated and fell in love with a woman who was trans and her and I had a similar conversation over one of our dates. We eventually parted amicably but the character really reminded me of her.
🖤 Thanks for sharing and I hope you're still doing well in your journey through love!
I'm so sorry, but you're gay. That was a whole ass dude.
So a man?
I wish Cormac would just release a huge ass book of essays about stuff.
Agreed. We only have one non-fiction piece by him. Feels like he could write so well about hundreds of topics. But, all I need is 10 essays about what he loves most!
Once in so often, I am surprised by feeling seen by a cis person when it comes to, in a way, a spiritual experience of being trans and it happend to me twice - once by my mentor in nursing school and now by McCarthy
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BS
The word 'cis' sounds very bigoted to me.
Trans girl here! I saw the video title and was worried that McCarthy would be transphobic however, I found it to be the opposite. Some the stuff said is sorta relatable for me which I was surprised about. Definitely going to have to pick up the Passenger now!
Hope you like the book!
"transphobic" is a nonsensical term.
@@kentjensen4504 How so?
@@dt16faf Because a phobia is an irrational fear. Whoever is critical of “transgenderism”, whether it’s bigotry based on religion or reactionary views, whether it’s a scientific disagreement, or whether it’s gay people who say transgenders are simply gays who won’t accept their identity as gay, “fear” has nothing to do with it. Calling things phobias is just a cheap and dishonest way to label disagreement as some sort of mental disorder so that they can avoid discussing issues on their merits. For the word “transphobia” to have any real meaning it would need to describe deeply neurotic people who imagine transsexuals or crossdressers lurking at every corner or under their bed.
Most neologisms from the last few decades are this kind of crap. It’s polluting the intellectual and scientific life of Western Civilization. And before anyone jump to attaching cheap labels to me: I helped my best buddy, who’s a gay film producer, make a documentary about a man going through the whole process of sex change operation over twenty years ago, long before it became fashionable and the new religion. I’m not impressed by people who voice “strong opinions” only when those opinions become the new mainstream dogma.
@@kentjensen4504Oh be quiet. Y’all just can’t handle criticism.
You need to read Suttree. Particularly the end. 1979.
I've read it multiple times!
Everywhere you go. There you are. Personal Identity is a strange aspect of a humanity
Yes!
I appreciate your video, but you have a few details wrong. The scene at Galatoire’s restaurant, a real restaurant in the French Quarter that McCarthy very likely spent quite a bit of time at when he lived there, takes place in New Orleans, a city very accustomed to trans folks and all types of people living on the fringes of society, and not Mississippi. New Orleans is very much NOT a part of the traditional south and has always been a city that embraces the LBGTQ and in fact holds a huge festival, Southern Decadence, every year that honors the LGBTQ community. When the character is talking about visiting her mother, those scenes take place in Tennessee, where Bobby Western and the trans character are both from and is presumably why they know each other. It would make perfect sense for a trans person to live in New Orleans in 1980 as New Orleans is one of the few cities in America where such a thing wasn’t a big deal back then.
Thanks Russ! Looking back that's why he had to borrow the car and make such a big drive! Missed that and didn't think to look up "Galatoire"! Thanks!
Agree. I’m a New Orleanian and had a transgender hairdresser at a prominent French Quarter hotel in 1979, prior to and after,.having surgery. The customers and hotel management supported Bennie through transition to Barbara. NOLA is unique.
@@WriteConscious Also Seven Seas, Tujaques, Napoleon House and Old Absynthe House are real. Really like your channel and enthusiasm about McCarthy!
Another New Orleans native checking in, not only of the place but also of the time (old fart - 63 y.o.). The other folks in comments here are on point, and I have nothing really to add other than a few personal notes and affirmations.
I’m about 1/4 into The Passenger and am so goddamned thrilled that my beloved hometown is actually a major part of a CORMAC MACCARTHY novel!!! Being an old fart at 63, I can also completely relate to the time, as well as very particular place. Not only time and place, but also many other specifics of my youth are reflected in The Passenger, having bounced back and forth between working as a mudlogger on the offshore oil rigs and a waiter at Commander’s Palace, which is about the best I could do with a geology degree until I left NOLA in 1990 for a career in environmental work.
Of course, Cormac MacCarthy captures EVERYTHING about the place and the time, all the micro/detail (the short section on the jack-up rig was just so…right) and of course the beautiful and evocative language that conjures up the….feel. Good Lord, he even perfectly to a T described the multi course, “you’ll take what we give you” menu at Tujaque’s.
New Orleans is really is easy to “get wrong” (as are the 80s now that I think about it). Cliches and superficial BS abound in depictions by lesser artists. No worries here. This is CORMAC MCCARTHY, after all!
THANK YOU for understanding and bringing into this conversation the occult, esoteric laws of duality that have nothing to do with being transphobic or bigoted. Life literally relies on polarity and the associated energies to exist. So many want to reduce these complex topics to politics when they are so beyond it.
Exactly. Occult literally means "hidden from sight" and everyone is blind pigeons getting manipulated into political weapons. Thanks for the support.
There’s a trans female character in Suttree, which is set in the 1950s. One of the final scenes is of Suttree saying goodbye to her. He calls her John, which is “dead naming” I guess, but it’s a touching moment still.
Also another trans character called "Trippin through the dew"
@@WriteConscious Not positive but I believe that’s the same one. Great video, thanks.
No worries. Have a great year!
McCarthy is my favourite writer of all time. I can't wait to finally read The Passenger.
You will love it!
it is always really nice to see trans people or any lgbt people mentioned in a positive way. even if it’s with some misconceptions and ignorance is nice to hear and very encouraging! ❤❤❤
Agreed. Also, a realistic perspective from a 40 year old man in 1980 is going to not be progressive today. Even if that character was very progressive at that time.
@@WriteConscious exactly! i dont think people who are upset by the portrayal are invalid as there is too much hate against trans people and queer people in general.
@@frog3262no, there is a lot of hate of people shoving that crap down peoples throats. Nobody cares. Do your thing and leave everyone else alone. People don’t hate trannies, they hate being told what to do and how to think . The whole movement is creating more hate because people are sick of seeing it everywhere… oh, and also the grooming of children is gross
If youre implying McCarthy is writing ignorantly on this because the logic and framework of self identity of this 1980s character isnt 100% correspondent with modern polite trans conversation i think you're incredibly arrogant and stupid. I don't wish to homogenize modern trans conversation and self mythologies because they can be many branched and many trans people see different understandings of what it means to be trans. McCarthy is not being ignorant for contradicting your understanding of transexuality, you're just being close minded
Yureitou It's a manga that makes a lot of mistakes, about the physical part and nuances of this transition process, but what does it say about the sentimental part?the construction of characters and their deconstruction, it's better than a lot of stories that are very respectful and positive in representations of transition, it's a manga people listen to and turn up their noses, I say it's one of the best on this sensitive topic.
McCarthy is the goat and this is just proof of that. Never did I expect to see such a nuanced and beautiful take like this from the guy that made The Judge.
I'm a cis guy, but one of my dearest friends is a trans woman. It depresses and angers me that she can't even exist in this world without people trying to stop her from simply being who she is. I'm 100% buying her a copy, since her birthday is coming around the bend.
Great video!
Haha, The Passenger is a crazy thing to start with!
@@WriteConscious He uses marxist terms like "cis" and you say nothing? Wow.
@@kentjensen4504nothing to do with Marxism.
"The term cisgender has its origin in the Latin-derived prefix cis-, meaning 'on this side of', which is the opposite of trans-, meaning 'across from' or 'on the other side of'."
Read more, because not everything is a Marxist conspiracy against you.
3:36 “disenfranchised” means she can’t vote
Disenfranchised is often used in the context of voting however Disenfranchisement means to be made worse off or denied for example in Blood meridian there is the quote "moral law is the Disenfranchisement of the strong in favour of the weak"
@@camranbaird9368 Thanks!
The author was always very nonjudgmental about people. In Suttree he observes without condemning.
100% love him for that
“ Bears that dance, bears that don’t. “
He probably is mirroring an observation. I don’t see a moral argument for or against this phenomenon of gender disphoria, or that some people believe they are really the opposite sex.
Most of the moral arguments rely on religion
How exactly is one "for" or "against" gender dysphoria? A scientifically proven and clinical diagnosis? Why bring morals into it? Regardless, what Cormac wrote about this trans woman is more beautiful and empathetic than your average hate fueled youtube comment
I read this book in three days upon its release and loved it. Thanks for the content.
Thank you Christian! On to the next one!
@@WriteConscious I am so excited for Stella Maris! I'm gonna finish reading that one shortly after its release as well. It'll be interesting to read a novel by McCarthy with a woman as the protagonist. Outer Dark has been the closest novel of his to having a woman as a protagonist, yet her brother is the main character of that story.
I agree, some of the quack-book reviewers are saying that "Alicia" is not well-written in Stella Maris, but I thought he wrote her jsut fine in The Passenger.
@@WriteConscious Absolutely. She is a very well written character.
@@christianvchaconlol
Checkout Thomas Harris' transgender themes in Silence of the Lambs. Within a forensic psychology framework it still manages to be very nuanced and informative. It also shows prevailing attitudes of psychologists regarding transgender issues for the time (early 80s).
great book!
Unlike the movie, which confused people into believing buffalo bill was trans despite the book itself saying he is not and the book in general being all the more clear about it
I’d like to sign up for the newsletter he mentioned…is this how? I’m reading my first Cormac McCarthy novel now, All the pretty horses and feel like I’m entering another dimension.
Does McCarthy base his characters on real people that he’s met, or met with for research?
Trucker John! We don't know! He is one of the most reclusive writers in modern history. But, I am assuming it has to be real people or his imagination. We would hear if he was interviewing people.
He gave an 8 minute interview to Oprah where they talked about virtually nothing and a couple vague print interviews over the years that reveal next to nothing about his writing process. We basically know nothing about him other than those things lol!!!
Edit: There is a 75 minute interview out now that talks about nothing related to writing, literature, or identity lol. Question remains unsolved!
He lived in New Orleans for awhile and almost certainly based the strange cast of characters on people that he knew when he lived there. I’ve lived here in the New Orleans area my entire life and the detail with which he describes the city is just what I would expect from McCarthy, a writer who has never written about any place that he isn’t thoroughly familiar with.
@@WriteConscious If it wasn’t from interviewing trans people or specifically trans women, then he had to have done a shit ton of research. The way “William” speaks about her Identity and feelings towards wanting to feel like a woman feel so authentic to conversations I have heard from real life trans women and their feeling towards their identities.
It’s interesting McCarthy chooses to validate the physical transition but notes how the energetics will always be missing..
Yes, feel like that's his take on a lot of his characters. They are on a soul retrieval process that rarely manifests 🤣
@@josephanthony9037 After immense suffering.
very very common cormac mccarthy W
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Interesting analysis and it's a nice surprise that McCarthy adopts a reasonable live and let live position on the TG character. I'm minded of the contrast to the viciousness of writers Ricky Gervais or James Corden in the nasty material they've come up with on their shows.
McCarthy has always been a very socially conscious man. His stories about the struggles of the underclass and people who are othered. And let's not get into how Judge Holden is basically white supremacy and manifest destiny made flesh.
I don’t k ow about James Corden, but Ricky wasn’t mocking transgender people. There are a lot of ludicrous believes that have been crammed into the trans issue and that is what Ricky was mocking. Like a r@pist claiming to be a women, being sent to a woman’s prison, and victimizing more women in the prison. Kindness is one thing, losing all sense of reality is another.
The title had me for a second ... I thought maybe you were using the Trans subject as unrelated click bait. I had no idea that Cormac McCarthy wrote a transgender character. Thanks for the info.
How odd. After reading some of his stuff this is really not something I'd think he'd touch on lol.
He lived in downtown New Orleans and Knoxville and I'm sure met transgender individuals. He also doesn't keep up with the culture wars, and started the Passenger in 1960, so it's kind of the perfect storm lol.
Appreciate your content on McCarthy
Did you see the new conversation that is out with the director of the SFI?
Yes, making a reaction to it now!
The last lines are beautiful
Yes!
I think the people who believe that this sequence is transphobic or misinformed or ignorant didn't pay attention very well at all.
"I want to have a female soul. I want the female soul to contain me."
This isn't assuming that being transgender is somehow invalid. What it's actually insisting is that how we assign male and female (which is a social utility) is entirely arbitrary. It is a short but beautiful note on the importance of postgenderism and the continued deconstruction of how we identify ourselves and how inefficient it is to encompass the entirety of our being.
A method of self-identification is the best means of allowing people to freely express themselves.
First comment out of 100+ that actually does an analysis of the novel lmao. Thank you!
very very VERY COOL ! By the title for a SPLIT SECOND i was like "nooooo please Cormac don't be a transphobe i would not survive having to cancel you" but alas: the master combats superficiality with beauty and depth!
He also has a trans character in Suttree
" having to cancel you" lmao
She's a great character - one of the reasons I love the book
You missed Abbott and Costello
I miss Mac Miller
Damn you misunderstood all of that. And mccarthy.
Oh yeah. I know nothing!
McCarthy used the trans scene to promote the notion of God’s pervasive love, love that illuminates every crevice of creation. The trans character was a prop for this notion, not a cheap nod of “inclusion” at the LGBT community.
Obviously haha
@@WriteConscious Ok, glad you agree even if I’m stating the obvious. Judging from the video and the comments, it seems the focus is on transgenderism and it’s vindication by McCarthy rather something that transcends human fragility or even aberrance.
@@WriteConscious Something more like grace..
Is there a lot of gender and trans stuff in this particular book? I’m not getting that from the blurb so….I’d appreciate your thoughts. I’m set to order soon.
Haha, no. Just half a chapter where the main character is talking to a trans woman. The character appears just in that chapter and I think it's there to help reinforce the idea of individuals out there who are trying to find a soul connection. Very well-done chapter.
@@WriteConscious ok, thank you! I just pre-ordered the set. I can’t wait to read these books!
@@WriteConscious the character appears in more than one chapter, no?
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The letter thing?
Yes! You're right. Filmed this at like 2AM (when I usually wake up at 5AM) and missed some stuff 😂
@@WriteConscious sa’ll good
I believe there is a character in 'Little Big Man' that covered the idea.
Suttree was a friend to the lbgt community and thats semi autobiographical
Bobby is obsessed with his sister. She is described as beautiful. The trans-person is described as beautiful. Bobby has a brotherly relationship to her. She is obviously meant to parallel his sister.
Good analysis! I agree. Made this at 2AM the night the passenger came out after grinding it out on Kindle lol. I have another video that breaks down how Cormac writes trans characters that's way better
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@@WriteConscious Reading even a shorter book in one night is no small task. How times have you read through the pair?
Four times so far! About to start a course on them so plenty more soon lol
@@WriteConscious I did about 2 1/2 laps myself. Lots left unresolved: Did they have a kid together? Did Alicia beat death and go back to look for Bobby? Or is Bobby merely schizophrenic? Is the Kid related to the Judge? And then if you wanted to assign symbolic meanings to the characters, the answers would become even more intricate.
I really wish you would change the title, because this is a lovely video and the word "transgenderism" is an outdated word now used almost exclusively by right wing pundits to dehumanize and reduce our existence to ideology. Maybe you thought it would get more views or attract a specific audience who would have their perspective changed by this video even a little, and I hope that's true, but with the amount of hate and fearmongering around trans people the past few years I think the dislikes unfortunately speak for itself.
Great video, Alicia is Bobby's sister though, not William's.
Thanks! Haha, I know🤣 2AM recording mistakes. Am making a 5+ hour breakdown of The Passenger right now alongside some sick editing with hopefully way less mistakes lol! Grinding it out day by day!
@@WriteConscious no worries, great channel, can't wait to follow along and discuss.
Let's go! Planning some major McCarthy stuff. Any other authors you want to see covered?
@@WriteConscious McCarthy is the big one for me and has been for a few years. I've read and discussed/debated many others, but I've found the discussions around McCarthy to be lacking. It's refreshing to find new people discussing him outside of The Cormac McCarthy Society/Journal and the few podcasts done by those who contribute to that journal(maybe you contribute as well and I've not come across that link/discussion yet).
Haha, I am trying to get all the Cormac McCarthy scholars on this channel, but make it a much more laid back Joe Rogan type podcast that doesn't have such fixed topics. Going to be dropping a ton of discussions, live streams, and content soon to boost the McCarthy zone.
I loved this video, everything in it. Thanks
No worries
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Definitely 1880*?
I always see people label McCarthy as a political conservative, and I often disagree. I think he writes about themes that conservatives gravitate to (macho white guys, westerns, limited female perspectives, etc...), but he's almost always deconstructing them or straight rejecting them, like in Blood Meridian. I wouldn't assume to guess his politics, but from what I can tell, I don't think conservatives can claim him as one of their own.
Nope, he is a conservative. Sorry! In his 2005 Vanity Fair interview, he discusses not liking Santa Fe because of all the liberals. He then follows it up that they are too pushy and dogmatic. That problem has gotten infinitely worse since 2005 lol. Cormac said a similar sentiment in his 1992 NYT interview, and in the interview released with him a couple months ago, he said he wished the Santa Fe Institute was in Texas because the people are better. He is influenced by a ton of conservative thinkers in his archive. I could go on with other details, but I understand from his writing you don't get conservative. His earlier books are very environmentalist and progressive for the time period/place.
I have never said McCarthy injects conservatism into his work. I am saying his personal politics are conservative. As an artist, he explores ideas across the spectrum.
It's always interesting to see how people twist things to conform to their ideology
Cormac was smart. Rip… that’s why I know he wasn’t a libtard
Cool video. You hooked me.
Glad you enjoyed!
@@WriteConscious Your welcome. I turned my brother onto your channel,too, as he is a huge CM fan. Keep up the cool work.
Thanks my dude!
I should really get onto reading him, should I? seems cool.
100% - If you like history check out Blood Meridian. Most accurate depiction of violence in the west
you had me at McCarthy scolar! LIKE!
LETS GO!
dig that $B hoodie
Trans women are men
fiction authors are non-fiction authors now!
@@WriteConscious what? What are you even trying to do? What is this reply even supposed to be.
Based
It would be much nicer were the character addressed by her name and not William, which is quite odd since in every other way both subjective and objective she is referred to unilaterally as a woman. However, it's definitely not due to McCarthy trying to make some kind of transphobic point. It's still surreal to see the man touch on this particular issue in his work.
William is who he was born as. So it’s William
@@smartyjonez5470 You're not much into the notion of people choosing their own destinies, are you? I get the feeling you weren't born as Smarty.
@@madmaddiesmadhouse4062 and I have a feeling that you’re a 15 year old and that you believe that it’s normal for people to identify as toaster ovens
@@smartyjonez5470 Cute. Thanks for letting me know you're an asshole that doesn't deserve to be taken seriously, but why wait until the second message?
You could have just opened with "My hatred of trans people overrides all rational thought in my brain" and this would have been shorter.
@@smartyjonez5470what about when people get married and change their last names?
The best part is when his/her younger sister says "You're beautiful".
yes
The problem I have with the trans issue is children are being diagnosed with sensory disorders and ADHD and given off label prescriptions and then offered sex change therapy with hormones and actual genitalia mutilation at a young age.
Google Seattle Children’s Hospital Gender Affirming Care. They’re literally giving autistic kids on meds sex changes. THAT’S the problem I have. If you’re 18. Great. You go girl. But leave the kids alone.
I’m super glad you shared this. McCarthy is a genius and this shows it
I guess we are all just searching for meaning, thats the goal of conscious life. Those people, whether they have legitimate gender dysmorphia or not, just want meaning. I don't think that's how they'll find it but hey, what do i know about being something i'm not? It is unfortunate mainly that this transgenderism is becoming something that will make people inauthentic, in the case of those who simply want an identity and do not truly belong in their heart to this group. That is the greatest human sin, inauthenticity to ones self unbeknownst to the person themselves
Most everything now is inflating the super ego/false self instead of discovering the True Self
trans people actually are able to be their authentic selves if they come out to those around them or just to themselves:)
@@frog3262 "Trans" people are gays who won't admit they're gay.
Good video dude, thank you for being sensitive to these things it's nice to see
Thank you!
He was interesting. Would not want him as a husband.
I have no idea who the guy is who's be talking but he def likes to talk.
lol. Deep analysis from Zelda Smith
Great analysis! Thank you!
Thank you Mary! LETS GO!
People should be able to do whatever they want, but when they try to push their ideas on my kid in school, that's when I'm against them. That is pedophile behavior.
Homeschool! Public education is always the current government's indoctrination zone. I don't think religion should be pushed in public schools either, but it was for most of American history. I've been a teacher in conservative schools, and the amount of policing by parents is insane. I almost got fired for talking about Plato and Aristotle lmao. The whole system is broken.
hi! it’s not pedophile behavior, it just isn’t. there of course are trans pedophiles but there are many more cis pedophiles that doesn’t mean a cis person talking to kids is a pedophile! and you could argue that trans people have had ideas pushed onto them for being trans (conversion therapy for example and people telling them to change who they are) but if a school is teacher kids about trans people the only thing it does is help kids understand others and help a child who is potentially trans feel less alone. when a young trans child is helped early and has support from teachers is can dramatically decrease the suicide rates which are horrifically high for trans people. anyways, have a good day!
It's impossible for a human to give themselves a new soul only God can do that, we are given what we have.
God is an superstition
@@GarciansVortex McCarthy's novels are full of Gods imagery, besides ive seen many debates between believers and atheist, atheist arguments are surprisingly weak.
@@MultiJpad Yes there's no shortage of idiots on both sides. That doesn't mean God exists though.
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 wtf how tf do I find you here
@@threeblindchickens Idk but Alicia from the novel is basically a female Kill(ss)ing Asuka lmao.
Mccarthy on trans....yea miss me with it no offence but no thanks
Lol, dude publishes 1.2 million words and 3,000 of them feature a trans character. Even if you don't believe in the trans stuff, you're gooning if you have a problem with that.
I just said I don't want to hear it. I'm tired of all this crap. I don't care if your trans or not I just said miss me with it and i havnt read the passenger but it's not like mccarthy is the best author at all times. I've disliked 2 of his books so far when he's good he's amazing. So yea maybe I'll just miss this one along with about a million books that I'll never have the time to read in 10 lifetimes. Time is precious. Have to choose what u consume carefully. I honestly diddnt even say I don't believe in the trans stuff Im just sick of hearing all the time
Gooning for sure. He’s the greatest American novelist, and you’re just an internet bigot.
@@WriteConscious He just said he's sick of hearing about it all the time. He didn't aid he doesn't "believe" in it. I made a documentary about a sex change person 25 years ago, long before it was fashionable to talk about. We followed him before, during, and after the horrible procedure. He has health problems now and tends to avoid social situations. He was happier as a gay effeminate manm which is all "male to female" cases are. They're gays who don't want to admit they're gay, so they tell themselves theyre actually women and actually straight. It is pitiful. I think you're more woke than you like to think you are, when you jump to conclusons like you do here.
You know you've written a realistic character if the mob comes after you calling you transphobic.
"Woman"
God's a Girl
@@WriteConscious God is man-made therefore he is male
No matter what, it’s bullshit.
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There was no need to put transgenderism/dudes playing dress up into the novel. Was he just trying to be contemporary, a sign of the times? It added nothing.
No, he started writing this novel in 1961 and had drafts done by 1980. Have you read Suttree? He followed the same narrative technique with this. Suttree meets Trippin in the Dew (trans) as figure detached from the world he is living in. At the novel's end, the last person he meets to send him off is Trippin in the Dew. In The Passenger, the character appears as an anomaly not connected to anything else, and shows back up at the end of the novel to conclude his relationship with Alicia. Weird narrative technique, but he seems to think (dating back to the 60's) it is effective.
I don’t think you understand the point of reading fiction.
Dumb
I thought it was disappointing and maybe even hurtful to the trans community.
First, she "longs to be a woman?"
Trans women ARE women. McCarthy seems to be too hung up on gender throughout the dialog to understand that it is a social construct. If get that he is old and the book is outdated but still...
It is also hurtful that he uses the same old "damaged trans trope". She was a teenage call girl right? The idea that all trans women must be a sexual deviant is also very problematic. This is the kind of stuff that is not good for the trans community at large and is a very bad representation.
EDIT: It seems some other people (I noticed it as well) noticed that it seems to conflagrate transgenderism with mental illness.
TRANSGENDERISM IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS. Full stop.
@ ZEG - Thanks for bringing in another perspective, and I'm sorry that you're disappointed! But, this is fiction writing, when you start to bring in the "hurting the community" argument you are messing with authors' heads and pre-censoring them. That argument equates to "If you don't write characters in the way we want you to write them you are creating violence against trans people." You're projecting a 2022 ideology onto a fictional character based in 1980 New Orleans.
McCarthy lived in the French Quarter of New Orleans, so he probably has a good idea of how to write a character who lives there.
We don't need your cancel culture censorship bs here
If you think a man who identifies as a woman is a woman, tell me how do you define what a woman is??
@@WriteConscious thank you for the level headed response.
Maybe I was a little harsh, and it might be the editors fault more likely. But I can't shake the feeling that the character is full of dangerous stereotypes and I don't like them being mixed in with the themes of mental illness.
@@pumitriii6160 a woman is simply a person who embraces the feminine side of humanity. Woman and female are not the same thing.
NOPE!!!
Yes! You're entrenched in a culture war. McCarthy is a very conservative author who worked on this novel for SIXTY years. A trans character is featured for a couple pages because that's the type of person you may encounter in downtown New Orleans in 1980... This is fiction from the greatest living novelist... Not the news. A much more Christian/conservative audience confronted the same topic in McCarthy's 1974 novel Suttree for a page and didn't have a problem because they could still understand it was fiction...
@@WriteConscious and...
A guy wrote a book, it has characters, some of those characters i don't enjoy, like you reading about nazis.
I understand! I'm just saying McCarthy isn't reaching with this character or trying to brainwash. It just came out during a time when it's a hot topic!
@@WriteConscious ok thank you for your patience, I'm a little retarded.
No worries James! Let's go! Thanks for taking time to respond!
Very insightful, ty
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hicklib core
lol