For those who think that the 9th dan is losing, "Keiko" means "Practice". He as a master is giving a lesson to the other fighters and this is not a competitive match.
thank you, i don't understand a word, but it seemed to me that this was not competitive cause the black ones were usually very agressive and some engagement were just way too one sided.
04:38 is maybe one of the greatest Kote I've ever seen. You can't hit a Hachidan (8.Dan) like that. The applause shows how amazing that strike was. This is an awesome level of skill.
1st, he killed the ki (spirit) of the Hachi-dan. 2nd, he broke the center of the man with a basic kote. 3rd, the Hachi-dan was amazed then he stood still for like1-2s. probably, he was thinking: what just happened? My 50-year-practiced proves nothing at all. What should i practice now? If the match was a real battle, he would lost his right arm to an 82 years old man. And I think that before hitting the kote, he has already known that the Hachi-dan is about to hit men (see the Hachi-dan's sword doesn't move when Sensei's swords touching? Coz when he's aiming to the man, its very hard for the other to move his sword to the right side), that's why he hits the kote.
I just started practicing and this is an exhausting sport. One practice encounter and I need to catch my breath. For him to last 10 minutes at his age is very impressive.
Try screaming non-stopping for ten minutes straight. Your lung and throat will hate you, and you would feel your brain just grow bigger than your skull. Anyway, Kendo practice often doesn't leave you a moment to catch your breath, the part when the men in black continually striking the Ninth Dan with little time to recover (4:50 - 5:40) is basically the norm of every session. I remember doing that three times in a row, had a minute break and then back at it again.
If you do something then it has to have sense in it. Screaming is pointless. Guess it can affect some inexperienced fighter, but that is it. Proper breath is much more important. So this is just some kind of traditional bullshit.
When you start kendo you give everything, more than you actually need. Later on your kendo will become more of a mindset, you will become more efficient and your kendo more precise and minimalistic
You're supposed to turn fast with your shinai (bamboo sword) raised after an attack so you can - in your turn - deflect a hit to your head. With those taps to the men (head) the sensei is basically saying: "you didn't turn fast enough my friend".
As posted by JeongminPak: While reading his opponent's mind movement, Danaguchi sensei leads in the flows and changes of weakness and strongness of the counterpart. His stable posture and dignity, in particular, not collapsing body movement and his eyes reading the opponent's reaction are the highest state that only he can show.
@BafflinBook It is called Menkirikaeshi, a common exercise in Kendô. One strike to the helmet (men) forward, followed by taiatari, a strike with the body (physical contact meant to break the guard of the opponent). Then 4 strikes forward and 5 backwards to the sides of the men starting with right temple and alternating. This is done 2 times in a row, adding a final strike to the men which "goes through". Check the wikipedia page for "Kirikaeshi"
Whilst I started Kendo rather late (40) to be thinking about achieving a very high level, if in 40 years I'm still as mobile as this Sensei, I'll be more than happy!
One on my teachers started when he was 36 and now he is now 7th dan. He is in his early 70s now, but I he is still very strong and moves quite well. I started when I was 33 and am hoping for high rank in the distance future myself.
in sabre or foil, i admit, yes excess energy is used. but in epee (the most artistic and realistic form i think), energy is conserved. with the flick of a wrist and the slight repositioning in stance, you can score a point on the arm or hand. point control, it's called.
I dunno whats going on at all, but the dude in the white... wow hes masterful, hes literally playing with the dude in black. Its so... effortless.... amazing.
This is very impressive, one of the best videos of great master in action I've ever seen. It's nice knowing that with enough discipline, it's possible to have this kind of skill at that age.
That's what I wanted to hear! I was unsure whether it would be a plus to the little martial arts I know already. So I was quite disappointed at first (since I like quick strikes and moves). Might want to give it a try now. Thanks.
@Doved101 becuase this is not a competition.obviously the "white one" is the 9th dan kendoka,and 9th dan used to be offered just to kendokas that helped the world's kendo grow so he is no ordinary kendoka.and the blue one is just sparring,a friendly match and at the end,usually,the sensei just lets him hit some strikes to see how he strikes and usually uchikomigeiko/kirikaeshi
Just stop and think about this: The 9th Dan Kendoka (the guy in white) is 82yrs old, amazing for his age! A 9th Dan in Kendo is absolutely amazing and MUST be respected (a life-long achievement)!!! ***Also Keiko, is a training exercise! Im honoured to have witnessed this footage, and it too is my lifelong quest to master myself(body & spirit), my mind and my sword!
@BafflinBook Its one of the Dan testing requirements I'm pretty sure. It's demonstrating I think it was called something like Akieshiru or something about that...
@chucknorrispranks it's not just playing tag, it's cutting although the cut is not as deep as koryu kenjutsu. Light strike usually won't be considered valid in kendo. And one should keep in mind that a shinai is a representation of katana, without it, Kendo is not a budo but just a stick game only.
This is truly a beautiful demonstration of what very high level Kendo should be. Taniguchi Sensei is a rare jem of an example of what all Kenshi should aspire to. I personally have been fortunate enough to have had keiko with Ishida Sensei and to anyone out there that thinks this is easy, I say put down the supersized Happy Meal, come to the dojo and try for yourself.
They are doing kakarigeiko. Black is doing all-out continuous attacks with 100% spirit; white is acting as receiver. In some versions, the receiver basically just stands there and lets the attack hit designated targets (not so different from basic uchikomigeiko, except higher intensity) or as is shown in this video, he may counter-attack. At 3:15 the drill is over so he let's the final cut hit.
I think you all miss the point. The skill displayed by the Kyudan is intense and shows his Ma-ai, tai sabaki and poise or kamae to be strong and decisive. Yet he moves with little effort. It is what we Budoka aspire to. It is rare that a Kendoka Hanshi such as this man demonstrates his craft to the public, especially at his advanced age. It is a pleasure to watch a real master and not some 'self proclamed master" display his skill after 7 decades of training and study. I'm Just a beginner.
@Epicurus13 Yes, at first it was free fighting then training such as Keiko and Kiri kaeshi. all these things are demostrated how it should be done. Other use this as a example for their exam.
@MaximilianDeLaHire Footwork; how close do you get to your enemy? One step too close or even a half-step too far from your opponent could end the match for someone who isn't well-trained. It's about knowing yourself enough to manage an unknown opponent's attacks. Conscientious breathing, in it's entirety, is an action that involves the self to voluntarily create effective measures of movement. This is why the strikes are not all the same. Some moments are true for an individual & some aren't
@kosh1969 The sensei's name is Taniguchi Yasunori. Unfortunately he passed away last year at the age of 88. I met him in Kyoto a few years back although it was at a social function, not in the dojo. Taniguchi-sensei was a member of the Imperial Guard.
@VSteper They spare in the beginning until the Sensei gives an opening and the student should recognize and take it. After that they go into a training exercise.
If you think of kendo or kumdo as a sport, you are not wrong but you just scratch the surface of its true aim which is to develop the mind and spirit. In this way it can be much more useful since things learned should be applied to everything that you do. They say you should not bring your life into kendo rather you should bring kendo into your life. Perserverance, not giving up, and continuously improving yourself are just some of the things you learn and should practice.
This is a demonstration of some practice exercises.... When they start, it's jigeiko (free practice) where you usually train combat situation. Next it was kakari-geiko (attack practice), where the kakarite (meaning "attacker", the pupils in this case) attack constantly, to improve endurance and learn to see openings. Lastly, they do kirikaeshi, the most complete exercise in kendo: big strike, followed by 9 sayumen(4 to the front, 5 backwards), to also improve stamina, footwork and technique.
I too have met Ishida sensei. He is a fabulous kendoka and a lovely guy too. It is a joy to geiko with him, he is absolutely not arrogant and acknowledges even half strikes.
@@Corey91666 I want to get started in either kendo or kenjutsu but most dojo's are closed due to covid. Should I try practicing exercises at home or wait? What are your thoughts?
Kendo isn't just about whacking the opponent, it isn't just about being effective, more energy conservant and all that. You can't deny the spirit part of kendo. You don't enhance your body with it. You enhance your mind and spirit, your inner strength, your courage. You can't really compare the two. True, I don't know much about fencing, but it doesn't relly seem all that spirit related.
Taunting the opponent is a secondary role as far as "kiai" is concerned. Proper breathing, first and foremost, increases the power behing the blow. Mastering it is of great significance.
@KiyoCukuma Difficult to explain, you have to yell out one of the four places you can hit (men, do, kote, tsuki) in high spirits, with an accurate, strong, deliberate strike to that spot in correct posture, and then you need to return to your stance fully ready to strike again, physically and mentally.
@wacki46 kendo doesn't emphasize actual cutting with body weight, hips, etc , it emphasizes playing tag with shinai. It's very different than fighting.
@hondacrazy123 kind of yeah its called "kia" easy translated its a fighting spirit your body, the sword, and your spirit have to be synchrony or you can not have a point in a match. on the other hand its much easyer to get in to the mental state of fighting in your mind with the "shouting"
Damn! His speed is something else. Watching it makes you want to Keiko with Taniguchi-Sensei, the experience would be beyond epic. Inspiring to see this video. :D
I used to live near Pahoa, Hawaii and kendo was *extremely* popular. There was a dojo at the local YBA (Young Buddhist Association) hall that had maybe 50-100 students who met several times a week.
Me.. if at 82 years old I can still practice I'll be happy. Now he can do it and still give those young guys less than 1/2 his age a hard time. Fantastic.
Kendo 9th Dan Keiko is simply a practice or training, they are not fighting for win or lose. the only person i know of that could be the person in the white might be Moriji Mochida, but he is dead and hes in the 10th dan
It was quite amusing and enormously comforting to see that these highly trained 6th and 7th dan japanese still had problems maintaining their compusure and their kiai during the kiri-kaeshi. They were so obviously tired. I know the feeling well.
on cutting/striking power or about reading your enemy? what I'm pretty sure is that medieval swords work great to break ribs or cut limbs, but they cut with the force of the strike. Katana is like a scalpel, needs just technique on how to strike to cut well, everyone can cut with a scalpel, but requires something else to cut through an entire body.
Search Wikipedia or read previous posts. In short, you hit the head (men), forearms (kote), the torso (do), or thrust to the throat (tsuki) but you must do so with proper technique, posture, resolve, and without being blocked.
There are 3 requirements for scoring: 1) Hit a valid target (head from top, wrist, side of torso, for experienced fighters also forward thrust to the throat). 2) When hitting, stomp with the front foot. 3) when hitting shout out, often attackers shout out the target (head, wrist etc.) in japanese. All three actions together need practice and are meant to demonstrate determination, representing the unity of soul, sword and body... :) The man in white is a grand master, very few reach 9th dan.
That's the word: "kiai". I'm surprised so many people are unfamiliar with it, because it's been adopted into many other sports. I learned about it from karate back in the sixties! Sometime, watch Gabriela Sabatini play tennis -- and listen. They do it for the same reason, to focus energy and distract the opponent.
What creates greatest ripple between broadsword and katana is the difference in speed.Due to reason movement of katana can be moment of instant death it puts great emphasis on readiness against your opponent since if hes damn good and starts attack first you are as good as dead.
Kendo has only 4 strike areas - The top of the helmet, the left and right forearms and the left and right abdomen (at the kidneys). The strike must be clean (at the striking area of the target and of the sword), with proper form & spirit plus zanshin afterwards (or relaxing of spirit/body/mind). If any of the above is missing, the strike is not considered legitimate. In the demonstration, you'll see that when the Master raises his right hand, the Kendoya has struck correctly. 2nd Dan myself.
He's a 9th dan and his ability and experience in kendo is considerably greater than the two 8th dan and one 7th dan kenshi he sparred with. This is a demonstration and his role as the more senior kenshi is to push the other kenshi to the best of their ability.
Past a certain point the fun is not to win but to pass on what you've learned. You can also think of this as a demo of the teacher's skill at nurturing his students.
He actually did. The only reason it couldn't be heard very well is because his kiai isn't that loud to begin with (his kiai earlier as a reference). Besides, this was a demonstration so no need to go full out on his part.
I'm sure you know an unfathomable amount more about Kendo then i do, but I do know about Kiai in my martial arts. I do Okinawan Shobayashi Shorin-Ryu Karate-do and for us a Kiai means "Spirited yell". when we spar and make a strike we often Kiai or yell. it also acts like an audible signal of when you make a solid strike on someone.
if you see any documentary or recent research those discovery/history/some other channel do with weapons, you can see that the katana is better than a regular knight 1 or 2 edges 2 hand sword, it cuts more with less strength (even knights armor) and penetrates more with a stabbing motion. I agree with the part that it completely depends on the warrior on who will win a fight.
There are some reasons for that. You are supposed to push your opponent to a point where they are weak in the mind, as well as the body. When your opponent is in a weaker state, you then have the upper hand, and can make a perfect strike. It's one way of practicing Kendo, the others being speed and technique. The shouting of the words "Men" "Kote" and "Do" are for the scoring. You have to shout at the exact moment of your strike or you don't get the point. It's also used to breathe right.
If you look down this thread, I asked a similar question. A kendo expert gave a very long an good explanation. It is a kind of ceremony. @isan0 is ofc right as well.
Wow i dont know what was kata and what wasnt, did you see how ther feet moved? amazing. i attempted Kendo for a few months, i meesed up the kata and forgot all the terminology. i also leant on my shinai once...i was chased out of the dojo with a razor sharp katana at the end of it.
And for the part you don't get the variety of movements on the fight, it it's true, there are just 4 points in kendo. But the real fight here is not to actually be faster or stronger than the other person, it will surely help but, what this old masters teach is the ability to impress your enemy so they will move the way you want them to move so you can strike/counter strike them first. It is what is well learned at your last years of kendo :)... veeery difficult.
the senei is extreamly skilled thats the beautyful results of hard work over time even though his age affects his fighting it dose not effect the spirt he uses in his work deaths evil i respect that most of all :D
For those who think that the 9th dan is losing, "Keiko" means "Practice". He as a master is giving a lesson to the other fighters and this is not a competitive match.
thank you, i don't understand a word, but it seemed to me that this was not competitive cause the black ones were usually very agressive and some engagement were just way too one sided.
MotomichiStudio It really felt like a training session indeed.
+MotomichiStudio YOU LIE
MotomichiStudio thanks for clarifying.
Thank you, this was a much needed answer.
Yes, sometimes he just gives opening, so that the other attacks.
この立ち合い、会場で観てました。感動して涙している方が沢山いたのを覚えてます。50回記念大会でしたね。
ドコ
谷口先生の小手に感動。構えも美しく気迫を感じます。掛かり手も豪華。選手権者&日本の大将経験者と、天下の8段2人が掛かり稽古と切返しで終わるのは凄い！
これを観るとやはり範士9段は残すべきだったのでは、と感じました。😮
打ち込みではなく、掛かり稽古ですね。最初と最後だけは打たせて、その間は抜いたり、捌（さば）いたり、応じたりしていますね。
04:38 is maybe one of the greatest Kote I've ever seen. You can't hit a Hachidan (8.Dan) like that. The applause shows how amazing that strike was. This is an awesome level of skill.
Tausendwasser agreed. It was a perfect kote.
Splendid, what a super accuracy Kote strike
Tausendwasser hi can you please explain what made that move great? I've not watched this before. Thanks
1st, he killed the ki (spirit) of the Hachi-dan. 2nd, he broke the center of the man with a basic kote. 3rd, the Hachi-dan was amazed then he stood still for like1-2s. probably, he was thinking: what just happened? My 50-year-practiced proves nothing at all. What should i practice now?
If the match was a real battle, he would lost his right arm to an 82 years old man.
And I think that before hitting the kote, he has already known that the Hachi-dan is about to hit men (see the Hachi-dan's sword doesn't move when Sensei's swords touching? Coz when he's aiming to the man, its very hard for the other to move his sword to the right side), that's why he hits the kote.
Nguyễn Đức Thanks
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I’ve been watching this again and again over the years and I’ve always taken away something new every time I watch it...
14年前の動画？？！貴重な動画だ！RUclipsが始まったのは14年前のことだぞ？！すげぇ！！
もう17年前だぞ
@@南米に一年放置された出川 早っw
2日前
@@コットン-u7j 早ァっ
剣道の奥深さを感じます。谷口先生の気迫の凄さが伝わります。剣道範士９段（当時８２歳）平成１４年のこの大会を今でも鮮明に覚えております。
I just started practicing and this is an exhausting sport. One practice encounter and I need to catch my breath. For him to last 10 minutes at his age is very impressive.
dafuk? You fat
Try screaming non-stopping for ten minutes straight. Your lung and throat will hate you, and you would feel your brain just grow bigger than your skull.
Anyway, Kendo practice often doesn't leave you a moment to catch your breath, the part when the men in black continually striking the Ninth Dan with little time to recover (4:50 - 5:40) is basically the norm of every session. I remember doing that three times in a row, had a minute break and then back at it again.
If you do something then it has to have sense in it. Screaming is pointless. Guess it can affect some inexperienced fighter, but that is it. Proper breath is much more important. So this is just some kind of traditional bullshit.
When you start kendo you give everything, more than you actually need. Later on your kendo will become more of a mindset, you will become more efficient and your kendo more precise and minimalistic
this is not a 10 min event xD this is like 40m even 1.30h long. The video is edited to show highlights
You're supposed to turn fast with your shinai (bamboo sword) raised after an attack so you can - in your turn - deflect a hit to your head. With those taps to the men (head) the sensei is basically saying: "you didn't turn fast enough my friend".
Kendo has so much culture, I love it. Thanks for letting us know.
Beautiful !
I hope I will age as gracefully and retain as powerful of a spirit and physical agility as this 82 years old man.
As posted by JeongminPak:
While reading his opponent's mind movement, Danaguchi sensei leads in the flows and changes of weakness and strongness of the counterpart.
His stable posture and dignity, in particular, not collapsing body movement and his eyes reading the opponent's reaction are the highest state that only he can show.
How is he so fast and powerful at that age..!? Holy cow...
This guy's speed and strikes are just right on. It's amazing how he can do this at his age, it beyond amazing.
@BafflinBook It is called Menkirikaeshi, a common exercise in Kendô. One strike to the helmet (men) forward, followed by taiatari, a strike with the body (physical contact meant to break the guard of the opponent). Then 4 strikes forward and 5 backwards to the sides of the men starting with right temple and alternating. This is done 2 times in a row, adding a final strike to the men which "goes through". Check the wikipedia page for "Kirikaeshi"
Whilst I started Kendo rather late (40) to be thinking about achieving a very high level, if in 40 years I'm still as mobile as this Sensei, I'll be more than happy!
One on my teachers started when he was 36 and now he is now 7th dan. He is in his early 70s now, but I he is still very strong and moves quite well. I started when I was 33 and am hoping for high rank in the distance future myself.
Amazing and inspirational.
in sabre or foil, i admit, yes excess energy is used. but in epee (the most artistic and realistic form i think), energy is conserved. with the flick of a wrist and the slight repositioning in stance, you can score a point on the arm or hand.
point control, it's called.
I dunno whats going on at all, but the dude in the white... wow hes masterful, hes literally playing with the dude in black. Its so... effortless.... amazing.
かたじけなさに涙こぼるる
This is very impressive, one of the best videos of great master in action I've ever seen. It's nice knowing that with enough discipline, it's possible to have this kind of skill at that age.
Step aside little boy 3:36
So funny!
ssother so true tho
That's what I wanted to hear! I was unsure whether it would be a plus to the little martial arts I know already. So I was quite disappointed at first (since I like quick strikes and moves). Might want to give it a try now. Thanks.
This guy is amazing!
He fight so fast and calm, yet so balanced spiritually!
When I do Keiko, I can't stay much calm, maybe 5 minutes maximum or 10.
@Doved101 becuase this is not a competition.obviously the "white one" is the 9th dan kendoka,and 9th dan used to be offered just to kendokas that helped the world's kendo grow so he is no ordinary kendoka.and the blue one is just sparring,a friendly match and at the end,usually,the sensei just lets him hit some strikes to see how he strikes and usually uchikomigeiko/kirikaeshi
An inspiration to us young folk :)
Just stop and think about this: The 9th Dan Kendoka (the guy in white) is 82yrs old, amazing for his age!
A 9th Dan in Kendo is absolutely amazing and MUST be respected (a life-long achievement)!!!
***Also Keiko, is a training exercise!
Im honoured to have witnessed this footage, and it too is my lifelong quest to master myself(body & spirit), my mind and my sword!
@BafflinBook Its one of the Dan testing requirements I'm pretty sure. It's demonstrating I think it was called something like Akieshiru or something about that...
@chucknorrispranks it's not just playing tag, it's cutting although the cut is not as deep as koryu kenjutsu. Light strike usually won't be considered valid in kendo. And one should keep in mind that a shinai is a representation of katana, without it, Kendo is not a budo but just a stick game only.
This is truly a beautiful demonstration of what very high level Kendo should be. Taniguchi Sensei is a rare jem of an example of what all Kenshi should aspire to. I personally have been fortunate enough to have had keiko with Ishida Sensei and to anyone out there that thinks this is easy, I say put down the supersized Happy Meal, come to the dojo and try for yourself.
They are doing kakarigeiko. Black is doing all-out continuous attacks with 100% spirit; white is acting as receiver. In some versions, the receiver basically just stands there and lets the attack hit designated targets (not so different from basic uchikomigeiko, except higher intensity) or as is shown in this video, he may counter-attack. At 3:15 the drill is over so he let's the final cut hit.
Wow that was great its always amasing to see a 8+ dan in action in any kind of martial arts. Ty for oplaoding this ! :D
I think you all miss the point. The skill displayed by the Kyudan is intense and shows his Ma-ai, tai sabaki and poise or kamae to be strong and decisive. Yet he moves with little effort. It is what we Budoka aspire to. It is rare that a Kendoka Hanshi such as this man demonstrates his craft to the public, especially at his advanced age. It is a pleasure to watch a real master and not some 'self proclamed master" display his skill after 7 decades of training and study. I'm Just a beginner.
Fantastic! Beautiful to watch.
@Epicurus13 Yes, at first it was free fighting then training such as Keiko and Kiri kaeshi. all these things are demostrated how it should be done. Other use this as a example for their exam.
@MaximilianDeLaHire Footwork; how close do you get to your enemy? One step too close or even a half-step too far from your opponent could end the match for someone who isn't well-trained. It's about knowing yourself enough to manage an unknown opponent's attacks. Conscientious breathing, in it's entirety, is an action that involves the self to voluntarily create effective measures of movement. This is why the strikes are not all the same. Some moments are true for an individual & some aren't
Cierto. Hace mucho que vi este video y no dejo de maravillarme ¿Quien dijo que hay límites?
このような先生がおられなくなった。桂次
@kosh1969 The sensei's name is Taniguchi Yasunori. Unfortunately he passed away last year at the age of 88. I met him in Kyoto a few years back although it was at a social function, not in the dojo. Taniguchi-sensei was a member of the Imperial Guard.
部活で剣道やってて顧問の人が6段なんだけど顧問が大学生だった頃に9段の先生との地稽古で飛び込み面仕掛けたら9段の先生がマジで目の前から消えて気づいたら後ろに立ってたらしいw
@VSteper They spare in the beginning until the Sensei gives an opening and the student should recognize and take it. After that they go into a training exercise.
Far from having no value, this exercise called kirikaeshi, is one of the most important in kendou, containing and helping to improve all fundamentals.
@samdonelly7 but a shinai does...and i was talking about tsuki as in "throat strikes"
If you think of kendo or kumdo as a sport, you are not wrong but you just scratch the surface of its true aim which is to develop the mind and spirit. In this way it can be much more useful since things learned should be applied to everything that you do. They say you should not bring your life into kendo rather you should bring kendo into your life. Perserverance, not giving up, and continuously improving yourself are just some of the things you learn and should practice.
This is a demonstration of some practice exercises....
When they start, it's jigeiko (free practice) where you usually train combat situation.
Next it was kakari-geiko (attack practice), where the kakarite (meaning "attacker", the pupils in this case) attack constantly, to improve endurance and learn to see openings.
Lastly, they do kirikaeshi, the most complete exercise in kendo: big strike, followed by 9 sayumen(4 to the front, 5 backwards), to also improve stamina, footwork and technique.
The 9th Dan is Mr. Taniguchi. (th Dan: Mr. Ishida, Mr. Iwai and Mr.Sakudo. It is superb!
ハングル語で出ているので韓国での映像でしょうか
起源がどうとかで物議が出ていますが 純粋に谷口先生の剣道を上げてくださる事が
本当に嬉しいです
I too have met Ishida sensei. He is a fabulous kendoka and a lovely guy too. It is a joy to geiko with him, he is absolutely not arrogant and acknowledges even half strikes.
Kendo seems great, I'm thinking about starting to learn it someday.
Did you Start your journey yet?
I know i did. 13 years ago when you wrote that comment :D
@@Corey91666 I want to get started in either kendo or kenjutsu but most dojo's are closed due to covid. Should I try practicing exercises at home or wait? What are your thoughts?
すごい、石田先生が手も足も出ないところ初めて見た
手も足も出ないのではなく、かかり稽古とはそういうもの😢
元立ちの相手に休みなく打っていく稽古なので攻め合いの駆け引きもなく、かかっていく方はポコポコあしらわれます
Kendo isn't just about whacking the opponent, it isn't just about being effective, more energy conservant and all that. You can't deny the spirit part of kendo. You don't enhance your body with it. You enhance your mind and spirit, your inner strength, your courage. You can't really compare the two. True, I don't know much about fencing, but it doesn't relly seem all that spirit related.
Taunting the opponent is a secondary role as far as "kiai" is concerned. Proper breathing, first and foremost, increases the power behing the blow. Mastering it is of great significance.
@KiyoCukuma
Difficult to explain, you have to yell out one of the four places you can hit (men, do, kote, tsuki) in high spirits, with an accurate, strong, deliberate strike to that spot in correct posture, and then you need to return to your stance fully ready to strike again, physically and mentally.
@wacki46 kendo doesn't emphasize actual cutting with body weight, hips, etc , it emphasizes playing tag with shinai. It's very different than fighting.
段がひとつ違うだけでもこんなに動きが違うもんなんだなって思う動画やな。自分も頑張ろ。
I see some comments asking who the sensei in white is,
but I don't see any answers.
The sensei in white I believe is Taniguchi Yasunori Sensei.
In kendo "spirit" is also judged as a barometer of talent. So a battle yell - a voice check, is also graded.
@fingerprint211b
sometimes sensei do light hit or little bit push you in kakarigeiko if you are to slow
I went through all users comments and watched the video a second time and appreciated it much better. thanks.
correct, it IS geiko followed by what seems to be kakari geiko and then kirikaeshi.
@hondacrazy123 kind of yeah its called "kia" easy translated its a fighting spirit your body, the sword, and your spirit have to be synchrony or you can not have a point in a match. on the other hand its much easyer to get in to the mental state of fighting in your mind with the "shouting"
Damn! His speed is something else. Watching it makes you want to Keiko with Taniguchi-Sensei, the experience would be beyond epic.
Inspiring to see this video. :D
I used to live near Pahoa, Hawaii and kendo was *extremely* popular. There was a dojo at the local YBA (Young Buddhist Association) hall that had maybe 50-100 students who met several times a week.
yet he was countering everymoves swiftly.
a true master
keep up the good work. I'm now 18 i started kendo ever since i was 13 and i hope to continue all the way throughout adulthood!
How has your journey developed sir?
Me.. if at 82 years old I can still practice I'll be happy. Now he can do it and still give those young guys less than 1/2 his age a hard time. Fantastic.
wow posted 17 years ago?? What was this, the first video ever posted on youtube?? Lol thank you for posting this!
I was literaly 1 month old when this came out lol
yes. in order to score a point you have to throw your opponents composure...he does this to show he has no fear and is in complete control.
Kendo 9th Dan Keiko is simply a practice or training, they are not fighting for win or lose. the only person i know of that could be the person in the white might be Moriji Mochida, but he is dead and hes in the 10th dan
It is allowed to the throat (tsuki) but a lot of people consider it to be kinda rude to do so.
Yep 8th dan if i remember only 0.7% of the 1500 people who were at the exam passes
The kyudan sensei (man in white) was Taniguchi Yasunori. He has passed away 19 May 2009 at age 88. Wonder how many 9dan are still alive ?
There are many ways to do this. I fold my tenugi in a slightly different way. It all comes down to preference
Thank you so much for the reply! Now it all makes sense. I knew they had to be showing different techniques of something, but wasn't sure. Cheers:0)
It was quite amusing and enormously comforting to see that these highly trained 6th and 7th dan japanese still had problems maintaining their compusure and their kiai during the kiri-kaeshi. They were so obviously tired. I know the feeling well.
on cutting/striking power or about reading your enemy?
what I'm pretty sure is that medieval swords work great to break ribs or cut limbs, but they cut with the force of the strike. Katana is like a scalpel, needs just technique on how to strike to cut well, everyone can cut with a scalpel, but requires something else to cut through an entire body.
ハングルってのが気に入らないが
見られた事には感謝する。
谷口先生は化け物だな。
攻め合いに余裕があるわ。
戦争を経験している世代は一味違うね。
同感
私は教え子なんですがね… 武勇伝がレベルが違いました。
谷口先生と真剣で勝負すると 絶対斬られるだろうな… と稽古つけてもらいながら恐ろしさを感じていました。
1:53でもう斬られてる、、、
スピード対応が凄すぎる
Search Wikipedia or read previous posts. In short, you hit the head (men), forearms (kote), the torso (do), or thrust to the throat (tsuki) but you must do so with proper technique, posture, resolve, and without being blocked.
There are 3 requirements for scoring:
1) Hit a valid target (head from top, wrist, side of torso, for experienced fighters also forward thrust to the throat).
2) When hitting, stomp with the front foot.
3) when hitting shout out, often attackers shout out the target (head, wrist etc.) in japanese.
All three actions together need practice and are meant to demonstrate determination, representing the unity of soul, sword and body... :)
The man in white is a grand master, very few reach 9th dan.
@Dragonfly88
no dude, i dont know where YOU practice kendo. But in Japan it begins with
6th kuy 100% ^^
That's the word: "kiai". I'm surprised so many people are unfamiliar with it, because it's been adopted into many other sports. I learned about it from karate back in the sixties! Sometime, watch Gabriela Sabatini play tennis -- and listen. They do it for the same reason, to focus energy and distract the opponent.
not always though. if ur a beginner, ur sensei may restrict u to only doing full swings. I had to do that when i first started.
Grades above 8th dan are honorary. That means they are awarded, but there is no 9th dan grading exam like there is for 8th dan.
What creates greatest ripple between broadsword and katana is the difference in speed.Due to reason movement of katana can be moment of instant death it puts great emphasis on readiness against your opponent since if hes damn good and starts attack first you are as good as dead.
That was pretty cool. Even I can tell that, and I mainly do fencing and karate.
Kendo has only 4 strike areas - The top of the helmet, the left and right forearms and the left and right abdomen (at the kidneys).
The strike must be clean (at the striking area of the target and of the sword), with proper form & spirit plus zanshin afterwards (or relaxing of spirit/body/mind).
If any of the above is missing, the strike is not considered legitimate.
In the demonstration, you'll see that when the Master raises his right hand, the Kendoya has struck correctly.
2nd Dan myself.
He's a 9th dan and his ability and experience in kendo is considerably greater than the two 8th dan and one 7th dan kenshi he sparred with. This is a demonstration and his role as the more senior kenshi is to push the other kenshi to the best of their ability.
As the subject implied, this is not a match (shi-ai), but merely a sparing (kei-go).
Past a certain point the fun is not to win but to pass on what you've learned. You can also think of this as a demo of the teacher's skill at nurturing his students.
@DrRodent
it's a comon exercise in kendo.
He actually did. The only reason it couldn't be heard very well is because his kiai isn't that loud to begin with (his kiai earlier as a reference). Besides, this was a demonstration so no need to go full out on his part.
I'm sure you know an unfathomable amount more about Kendo then i do, but I do know about Kiai in my martial arts. I do Okinawan Shobayashi Shorin-Ryu Karate-do and for us a Kiai means "Spirited yell". when we spar and make a strike we often Kiai or yell. it also acts like an audible signal of when you make a solid strike on someone.
八段の先生が｢かかる｣のがすごいな・・・
九段が廃止された今はお目にかかる機会はない。
if you see any documentary or recent research those discovery/history/some other channel do with weapons, you can see that the katana is better than a regular knight 1 or 2 edges 2 hand sword, it cuts more with less strength (even knights armor) and penetrates more with a stabbing motion.
I agree with the part that it completely depends on the warrior on who will win a fight.
There are some reasons for that. You are supposed to push your opponent to a point where they are weak in the mind, as well as the body. When your opponent is in a weaker state, you then have the upper hand, and can make a perfect strike. It's one way of practicing Kendo, the others being speed and technique. The shouting of the words "Men" "Kote" and "Do" are for the scoring. You have to shout at the exact moment of your strike or you don't get the point. It's also used to breathe right.
If you look down this thread, I asked a similar question. A kendo expert gave a very long an good explanation. It is a kind of ceremony. @isan0 is ofc right as well.
Wow i dont know what was kata and what wasnt, did you see how ther feet moved? amazing.
i attempted Kendo for a few months, i meesed up the kata and forgot all the terminology. i also leant on my shinai once...i was chased out of the dojo with a razor sharp katana at the end of it.
And for the part you don't get the variety of movements on the fight, it it's true, there are just 4 points in kendo. But the real fight here is not to actually be faster or stronger than the other person, it will surely help but, what this old masters teach is the ability to impress your enemy so they will move the way you want them to move so you can strike/counter strike them first. It is what is well learned at your last years of kendo :)... veeery difficult.
the senei is extreamly skilled thats the beautyful results of hard work over time even though his age affects his fighting it dose not effect the spirt he uses in his work deaths evil i respect that most of all :D